0:00

Hi, Em. Hello. How are you? I am well. How are

0:02

you? I'm great. Well, you went like this to

0:20

me like, like go fly. So

0:22

I'm trying to think you're riffing.

0:24

Yeah. Well, we both know

0:27

I usually just jump right in. I'm trying

0:30

to be more conscientious, more situationally

0:33

aware. Whoa. Whoa.

0:36

No. Tell my

0:39

therapist. Yeah. I am. We're

0:41

having drinks later. Who? You

0:44

and my therapist? Yeah. I'll tell her

0:46

that. Yikes. She is gonna fire me.

0:48

Oh, don't worry. We talked

0:50

about all of it.

0:53

I am well for someone

0:55

who is hungry and sleepy,

0:58

but Oh, well,

1:02

I was almost hungry and sleepy when

1:04

I came up here, but instead I

1:06

had a cup of coffee and a

1:09

microwave quesadilla. So I'm ready to party.

1:11

What flavor was the quesadilla? I

1:14

put some shredded Mexican blend cheese

1:16

and sliced up some tomatoes. Oh,

1:18

you made it. I said

1:20

it was in a microwave. Yep. I put it in a microwave

1:22

for 30 seconds. I know, but they have like frozen quesadillas. Oh,

1:25

do they? I have no idea. I always thought of a

1:27

microwave quesadillas. You just put a tortilla with cheese on it.

1:29

Uh-huh. Like the nachos with

1:31

cheese when we were kids. Yeah. Yeah. Microwave nachos.

1:33

Right. The chips with cheese. Yeah. Interesting.

1:36

Interesting. Tomatoes. Do you put those

1:38

in pre or post microwave? Definitely

1:41

post. I'm not

1:43

a hot tomato kind of person. You

1:45

know what I mean? I do understand.

1:47

Yeah. Sorry.

1:50

It is the day after trash day and

1:52

every neighbor decided they're going to do a

1:54

fun little synchronized bring the trash bin up

1:56

the gravel driveway. So let me close my

1:58

window because it's beautiful out and I

2:01

thought, what a nice spring breeze. I can't

2:03

hear it to be fair. Okay, it is

2:05

like so outrageously loud. Okay, well fine.

2:07

Hopefully the gravel driveway, which by the

2:09

way is like eight feet. So I

2:11

don't know how many times they're going

2:13

back and forth. They're actually having the slowest race

2:15

on earth. They might be. They might be

2:17

doing like a full synchronized dance routine. I'm

2:19

not really sure, but I do apologize

2:21

if anyone can hear it, but Gio's sleeping next to

2:23

the open window and I just can't bear it. I

2:25

can't bear it. I can't close it. That sweet little

2:28

angel puppy. I know. And he

2:30

loves the sound of the gravel. He loves it. He

2:32

probably loves the sound of the trash. He knows. The

2:35

smell of the trash. It's a whole 4D

2:37

experience. He loves the stuff. He loves it.

2:42

Christine, I gotta know. I gotta know and I gotta

2:44

know now. What is the reason why you drink? Mm,

2:49

great question. I had therapy again today. I don't know

2:51

why I keep scheduling it right before we record. That's

2:54

wicked fucking bold. It

2:56

is. What if you

2:59

have like

3:01

a revelation? I did. And

3:03

you start, oh. Oh. Picked

3:06

away. Okay, so first of all, because

3:08

I don't know what people are saying about the book,

3:11

if anything, or if they even give two shits, but

3:13

that book, I finished that book I was talking about

3:15

where I was like saying it was changing my whole

3:17

perception of life perspective. And it did. It really like

3:19

changed my life. I feel like it really resonated with

3:22

me. I will add, I think if

3:24

I read it like a year ago, it probably wouldn't have.

3:26

Like I would have been like, okay, interesting

3:28

and like moved on. So if people read it and were like, I

3:31

think seriously it was just the timing. Second of all,

3:33

near the end, he kind of lost me. It got

3:35

a little like, too woo woo. Oh,

3:38

a little bit. And also I felt, yeah, I

3:40

would say maybe too woo woo. And also I

3:42

think he didn't really address

3:44

some of the issues that I

3:47

thought would like, it's like,

3:49

oh, throughout life, bad things will

3:51

happen. Sure, like your dog might die and

3:53

like you might get in a car offender

3:56

bender. And I'm like, yeah, but also people get

3:58

like murdered and raped and stuff. So I

4:00

feel like there was just a lack of kind of

4:04

really addressing like big problems in life. And

4:06

we're just like, you know, you might be

4:08

sad because you got dumped. And it's like,

4:10

okay, yeah, but I might be sad because

4:12

like my family died in a plane crash.

4:14

You know, I feel like it kind of

4:16

didn't really wrap up, though, I had hoped, but it

4:19

was good. I feel like it spoke to me. I

4:21

would give it like four out of five stars. But-

4:25

That's pretty good for something that didn't totally speak to you. No,

4:27

wait, was it because like four out of five of

4:29

the book spoke to you? Yes, that's more what it

4:32

was. It was like the last couple chapters, I was like,

4:34

okay, I was hoping you'd like bring it home, you know,

4:36

but for me, and maybe he did for some people, but

4:38

for me, I'm like, there's a lot of shit that I

4:40

felt like kind of didn't get addressed, which I don't know.

4:43

So it might be whatever,

4:45

but I brought that back

4:47

to my therapist. And then today I was just like,

4:51

I don't know, I guess I just had a revelation that this is, oh, God,

4:53

why am I talking about this on the podcast? I

4:56

don't know. You know that

4:58

feeling? I don't know if anyone else has it, but

5:00

I feel like I'm always a

5:03

different person depending on where

5:05

I am and whom around. We've talked about this.

5:07

Like- Like being a chameleon? Yeah,

5:10

yeah, yeah, yeah. And just like completely

5:12

changing. And it got to a

5:14

point a few years ago where I realized like,

5:16

I don't even know what I really like. Like,

5:19

do I just say I like things because it

5:21

sounds good or because I think I should like

5:23

it, like even music, just basic stuff.

5:25

And so I'm on kind of this journey to be like,

5:28

what's- Who is Christine? Who

5:30

is that? Is that who's me? And

5:33

I think that's why that book spoke to me too,

5:35

because it's like, you're not all the jumbled thoughts in

5:37

your head. Like you're separate. You're like perceiving it. Okay,

5:39

so it's just for purpose. Yeah, it definitely

5:41

did. So anyway, now

5:43

I'm on a journey to find myself. Ha ha ha

5:45

ha ha. But actually- Isn't

5:48

it funny how the self-help book isn't

5:50

even part of the journey yet? It's like, oh shit, I just

5:52

needed that to crack the window open. This is literally it.

5:55

It's like, oh wait. Oh,

5:57

now I have to do the work. Which I feel like it is- work

6:00

with this over. It hasn't even begun. Yeah,

6:03

it's it's one of those things where it's like wow

6:05

it's like a painful lifelong journey I

6:07

guess but you know I'm on it I'm trying

6:09

I'm trying and I'm trying to figure out what

6:11

food I really like and I don't like hot

6:13

tomatoes so maybe we can write that down. That's

6:15

a good start. Yeah we learned something

6:18

today all of us. I'm so sorry I

6:20

keep going to these weird deep like therapy

6:22

talks but why do you drink them? I

6:26

really don't like hot tomatoes. Never

6:29

have I did know that about myself without having

6:32

to read. Does anyone okay but since your

6:34

question folks I'm not gonna criticize

6:36

you because Em and I both

6:38

like kind of weird stuff sometimes

6:40

but does anyone really like hot

6:42

tomatoes? Sound off in the comments

6:44

below. Yeah what

6:48

you said I think Italians might at least the

6:50

soft version. Well okay but you don't

6:52

like tomato sauce? No I

6:54

don't like any red sauce. Oh

6:56

oh oh oh oh I just meant like I

6:58

don't like a sliced tomato being hot but I

7:00

know I meant I know but I but I

7:03

decided to raise you you

7:05

know. Raise the bar up a little

7:07

bit. What about what about tomato

7:09

soup? No. Well we

7:11

talked about this. I love it. It's

7:13

the only soup I like actually. That's

7:16

I mean I never

7:18

really liked it for the taste and then I thought

7:21

one day I'll grow into it but before I could

7:23

get to that point in my life I started getting

7:25

incredible acid reflux problems. Oh yeah they would do that

7:27

a lot. Good point. So I didn't even get

7:29

a chance to become friends with her. It's

7:33

like we were frenemies I thought maybe when we get

7:35

older and we mature a little bit we'd become like maybe

7:38

friends but then she moved away. She

7:41

moved across the ocean. It's just not gonna

7:43

happen for you. I think

7:45

that's probably the best. She was gonna damage

7:47

you your heart literally. You're right. She

7:50

was gonna be toxic no matter what so maybe the

7:52

relationship wasn't meant to be. Very acidic. Not

7:55

helpful because also bad for my acid reflux.

7:57

I just think it's yummier so it's more

7:59

worth the risk. is I

8:01

love a cream sauce, I love a

8:03

lemon sauce. So

8:06

Italian food, if you happen to

8:08

be like an Italian who's making me something from scratch because

8:10

you saw me walk down the street, I

8:13

will not be fully

8:15

enjoying anything based with red

8:17

sauce. Okay take note Italians

8:19

who see em coming down the street

8:21

and have decided to whip

8:25

up a little a little zuppo. I

8:27

don't know. I love a chicken

8:29

cutlet covered in some sort of cream or lemon

8:31

sauce. I like a piccata. I like my Vama

8:33

even just at the word gallop. It's not

8:36

bad. Anyway no

8:39

I've always known I don't like hot tomatoes but I

8:41

do love a cold tomato and a

8:43

room-temperature tomato is fine. Very

8:45

interesting. So

8:48

I guess that's why I drink. Wow

8:51

you know I love when we both

8:53

bring like heavy hitters to the table you know what

8:55

I think you yeah we gotta you know keep each

8:57

other equal. We do. You know what's so weird

9:02

and I hope this rolls

9:05

on to you a little bit is

9:08

I woke up today this does not happen often. I don't

9:10

know if it's hormonal I don't know if it's

9:13

medical and I need to see a doctor immediately but I woke

9:15

up today and I went today's gonna be

9:17

a good day. Oh I know

9:20

so I hope that is

9:22

universal. I don't

9:25

know. I know you're not gonna listen but I read so

9:27

many self-help books can I say something and you don't have

9:29

to listen to me but if anyone else wants to follow

9:31

this advice feel free and I hate

9:34

giving people advice when they're like not asking for

9:36

it so I apologize take it or leave it

9:38

but one cool trick

9:40

that I learned is when I because I also

9:43

rarely have those kind of moments when it does

9:45

happen I make a note like it in a

9:47

planner or just a journal or my notes app

9:49

on my phone and then I kind

9:51

of see like what the pattern is you know it's

9:54

like oh did I like did anything change or

9:56

were you just your brain oh

9:58

for me I didn't really follow my own advice I

10:00

just forgot to do it. But in

10:02

general, I feel like it's,

10:05

and usually it's not like when I wake up or

10:07

it's like a different, I use

10:09

it in different contexts. But I think like with something like this, when

10:11

you wake up and you're like, I'm in a good mood, it's like,

10:14

huh, put it in your calendar. See, like, what's

10:16

the deal with that? It's a random

10:18

Tuesday. Did you have a

10:20

really good dream last night? Did you eat some

10:23

cold tomatoes before bed? I don't

10:26

know. When I was younger,

10:28

I used to actually convince myself, which

10:30

now in hindsight, maybe with some sort of just

10:32

manifest thing or just like really

10:34

summoning whatever it took

10:36

to make it real. But when I was younger, I

10:39

would wake up in the morning and I could actually

10:41

just think to myself, today's going to be a great

10:43

day. And then it would be so it

10:45

is the power of positivity. That's it. Because

10:48

I used to do that. Actually, that's also kind of what

10:50

that book is about. So fun fact, but where

10:53

it's like, why would you feel bad about like, why

10:55

would you feel negative about things? Just be like positive.

10:58

And I'm like, okay, to an extent, I do love

11:00

that to a certain extent. Yeah. If I feel like

11:02

I'm in a plane crash, not gonna feel so good.

11:04

Today is one of those weird ones, though, where I didn't

11:06

have to convince myself something told me. So there's like that

11:09

calmness of, oh, it's not even in my control. It's just

11:11

gonna be a good day. But I

11:13

guess I'm gonna force the pattern onto you, which is that

11:15

I'm here. Hey,

11:17

you know what that you know, I will write that down

11:19

as one of the things that happened. I see

11:21

you a lot, though. And you don't seem to

11:23

have that feeling very often. So I don't know

11:25

if I've I don't know a lot

11:27

of times that I see you, I have

11:30

to be on a stage. So that is

11:32

true. Although I will say I

11:36

had my therapy yesterday. Congrats. Jordan

11:39

says hi, we have been talking. I know we're

11:41

meeting later. Don't worry about it. Well,

11:43

then you know, what I'm about to say

11:45

is that we have been speaking extensively on whether

11:48

or not she can girl

11:52

drinks of kabocha. I think you just wanted

11:54

the attention. That's what it felt like. I'm like, No,

12:00

her and I have been talking about whether or not she can

12:02

listen to the podcast, which I love that she's

12:05

asked, but apparently I did

12:07

not sound enthusiastic enough that

12:10

she felt like it was actually consensual.

12:13

Do you think she's going to her therapist and being

12:15

like, no, but like, here's the tone of voice with

12:17

my client. Apparently there's

12:19

like, they have, she has like meetings

12:21

with other people, with other therapists that like, I

12:23

guess she works in like a co-op in some way. I

12:26

guess someone said, oh, well,

12:29

there's someone who has a client that does something along the

12:31

lines of what we do. I don't know if it's podcasting.

12:33

I don't know if it's like, what if it was me?

12:35

Can you imagine? Wait,

12:38

we go to the same practice? I

12:41

guess that

12:44

person has a client who lets them in

12:46

more on their career, and I am not

12:48

doing that yet. And so I guess Jordan

12:52

was like, oh, well, they

12:54

get to listen. Or they get to engage. I'm

12:57

like, I get it, girl. And like, I

12:59

did say that she was welcome to listen,

13:01

but it was

13:03

not enthusiastic enough. Do

13:06

you know how long the episodes are? I feel like Jordan's

13:08

like, like saying, oh, I'm going

13:10

to listen. And the doesn't realize that these

13:12

are not like normal podcast links. Like they're

13:14

crazy long. Also, like how embarrassing would it

13:16

be if my own therapist decides that she has to

13:18

turn it off immediately? Because she's just

13:21

like, oh, what did you think? And then she's

13:23

like, oh, it was fine. Like, oh,

13:25

that would be so bad. Oh, yeah, nevermind.

13:27

Don't listen, Jordan. I can't stand it. I

13:29

can't even stand the thought. No,

13:32

it makes me so uncomfortable, but I don't know why,

13:34

because I'm sure she's a homie.

13:36

Like she's got that good energy. Like

13:38

she would have probably heard her to

13:40

reject us. Yeah,

13:43

what if we said something? Well, I did say I was like,

13:45

what if you judge me afterwards? Like what if

13:47

you know too much? You know? But then that's

13:49

kind of your job. But that's kind of the point. Right.

13:52

Maybe I have cards

13:54

I'm holding close to my chest that I don't even know about.

13:56

Because I'm pretty open on that. everybody

14:00

but not your therapist. I love that idea. This

14:02

is too private. You can listen to what I tell

14:04

you in secret, but you can't listen to this public

14:06

platform. It's too private. Because the way that as a

14:09

therapist, she does a really good job of like calling

14:11

me out right away. And like,

14:13

I feel like here is a platform where we

14:15

all laugh about our trauma. She's not she's

14:18

not gonna like that part. Oh, okay. Well,

14:20

then well, maybe don't listen to her. Again, I

14:22

don't know if she'll like it or not. But it's

14:24

not in her character. It's not in her character. And

14:26

so I think the fact that we're like, ha ha

14:28

ha. Did our parents love us? Ha ha

14:30

ha. I think she will unpack that.

14:33

Let's unpack that. Okay. And I

14:35

will let you know what, let's not okay.

14:37

I don't see you with a microphone. Bye

14:40

bye. Jordan, you're in my house now. We

14:42

don't talk about that. I'll see you

14:44

at cocktail hour later. Okay, bye. Anyway,

14:47

that's why I drink because I would

14:49

I in theory have no

14:51

problem with my therapist listening. But also

14:53

the second that an

14:55

invitation was requested in itself.

14:57

Yeah. I don't know. I don't

14:59

know what there's something I'm apparently terrified of her finding

15:01

out. But maybe it said I just don't want her

15:04

to hate the show and then thus hate me as

15:06

a client and be like, Oh, this fucking person annoying

15:08

person. Yeah, it just seems like a

15:10

lot of pressure to put on someone. So I'm

15:13

with you. I don't think it's necessarily the best

15:15

idea. At some point, it will be a

15:17

yes, but I don't I don't know when it will

15:19

be an enthusiastic anyone so far. It's a

15:21

sure, sure, sure, sure. Maybe once

15:23

we solve all our trauma, then she without

15:26

my therapist. Great. Well,

15:29

just oh, no, you were saying

15:31

once we're fixed, then the show can be

15:33

listened to by people who so

15:35

she has to do her job first before she gets

15:37

her reward. Worst

15:40

reward ever to listen to a free podcast.

15:42

That's 16 hours long. Anyway, you know, it

15:44

will make me rip my own eyeballs out

15:46

and my ears is when next

15:49

session she plays this for me. I

15:55

don't like that joke. Make it stop. Okay,

15:58

I'll make it stop by telling you a. Story

16:00

for Scarred By the way, I

16:02

know you're drinking some boots, but.

16:05

You. Know I don't wanna. I don't want to let the tradition

16:07

down just yet. I still haven't L d and

16:09

hands on. And. I gotta tell

16:11

all my thirsty little rats. Drink.

16:14

Some water. I even brought

16:16

up law. Suit, you're going

16:18

to be a A T L R today

16:20

a movie and Raphael are and look at

16:23

the stig. That sucker. Oh

16:25

my Goodness. A big

16:27

foot on a big cup. The. Threats.

16:30

Or it glug glug every one. Move.

16:35

To. Know that some people's. One.

16:38

Weekly reminder to hydrate themselves. It's

16:40

mine. I

16:43

mean I'm not even joking. Nobody has ever

16:45

tells me a drink water has on my

16:47

phone. does it. I get so angry even

16:49

though I told my phone to sell me

16:52

if someone that knows how to like isolate

16:54

sound bits and turn them into lake. Like.

16:57

A sound for your phone like an alarm

16:59

alliance. Oh. Well. Then

17:01

we should. Is there a way to? Broadcast

17:04

that's everybody where. they all have access to it.

17:06

Yeah, I'll call an Amber alert and then instead

17:08

of that, It'll just

17:10

be like you talking I met it's about

17:12

wanted to hear a good fit. For some

17:14

reason someone out there. Needed. To hear

17:17

a meeting them are elderly arrest. And

17:19

they could have that to their own timers to an

17:21

alarm. Yeah, I can make that happen. Maybe not to

17:23

be a paper on park. I

17:26

usually like that you're good at other has

17:28

I know some vodka as including my other

17:30

one. Still give up and M p three

17:32

of the. Theme. Song as

17:35

a ringtone. Love as

17:37

a heater on park. So why don't we do that?

17:39

will make a little lot. There's still a rat sounds

17:41

for patrons. Oh I love that! Okay va

17:43

please? oh forget cause I will. By.

17:45

The way happy belated it was he was birthday.

17:49

Pay or little says or little

17:51

fish. oh maybe that's why. Okay,

17:53

so recently, okay others. My last.

17:55

Or. And then I'll I'll go into this

17:57

ah. Chris. Christie was there

17:59

as. witness to the fact that even

18:01

oh my god yes somehow

18:04

like missed a whole

18:06

chunk of childhood and never experienced the

18:08

little red cellophane lucky fortune fish yeah

18:11

where you guys know what we're talking

18:13

about right like okay Megan can you put a poll

18:15

I'm giving people homework but Megan can you put a

18:17

poll because I'm curious because you also never

18:19

on the screen so people can just see it

18:21

right now yeah Jack your homework is to put a

18:24

picture of the fish but no

18:26

if you if you it was this like it

18:28

was like in a carnival

18:30

yeah yeah yeah like a festival

18:33

might have it it's like a free prize

18:35

yeah it was like the cheapest prize

18:37

you could ever give a kid and they thought it

18:40

was amazing it was the perfect like I

18:42

don't know what the economical terms are but

18:44

like like some sort of supply and

18:46

demand phrase but the fact that it was so

18:48

cheap and it was so amazing and incredible to

18:50

children that they had to have one yeah

18:52

it's like the perfect product like whoever invented that

18:54

I hope they retired as a billionaire up into

18:56

the mountains and we're like I've done my deed

18:58

for the world I also hope

19:00

so no

19:04

they were like these red fish shaped pieces

19:06

of cellophane and based on your

19:09

hand which I still don't know the science of it

19:11

I think it was just based on heat however it sat in

19:13

your hand whether it crawled up or it laid flat

19:15

or however it moved or like if the tail

19:18

goes up by yourself yeah and so it moves

19:20

in your hand which was always a magical part

19:22

but it's just some sort of basic I'm sure

19:24

some basic physics but yeah it just yeah the

19:26

wind it just moves on your hand and so

19:28

Eva had never seen one and I'm and I

19:30

were like delighted to watch her discover it for

19:32

the first time and so yeah I

19:35

guess she is a little our lucky fish she's

19:37

our lucky fish Eva is yeah

19:39

Eva for Halloween can you stress up as one

19:41

of those fish though she has it intimated that

19:43

she might get a tattoo of the

19:45

lucky fish so that's true yeah

19:48

we've really uh you

19:50

know the illusion of a world

19:53

with no cellophane fish has been shattered

19:55

for her so yeah sorry you're in

19:57

the real world now if Elvis If

20:00

only that was how easy the Matrix was. Um,

20:02

yeah, take the Neo stick your hand out and we'll

20:05

see if you're in love. Yeah.

20:07

Just, just hold still. Kristine,

20:12

I have, um, a classic story for

20:14

you today. Oh, okay. And

20:16

by classic, I mean like an old school

20:19

ghost story, which I'm very excited about. I

20:21

was up until four

20:23

AM doing my notes. You know, it's going to be good. When I

20:25

see up till four AM. That's how you know. And

20:29

it is called the King's

20:31

Tavern. It

20:34

sounds haunted. It was at the

20:37

sound. Was it the buoy? It wasn't,

20:39

I'm sorry. I know it wasn't,

20:41

but it could, could

20:43

be. Okay. Like a 1%

20:46

extra. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

20:48

Like it just boosted it a little bit. It

20:51

elevated the experience. Sure. It did. It sure did. Sure. It

20:53

sure did. Um, okay. So this is in,

20:55

I hope I'm saying it right. Natchez, Mississippi.

20:59

I blank there. Cool.

21:02

Um, I did listen to other

21:04

people say it and it sounded like Natchez to

21:07

me, but I don't know if

21:09

I'm really supposed to enhance the Chez, Natchez,

21:11

you know? But when I can

21:13

tell you about it, instead of how it's

21:15

pronounced is that it is the oldest settlement

21:18

on the Mississippi river and the King's Tavern

21:20

is the oldest standing building in that town.

21:22

So this is currently the oldest standing building

21:24

in the oldest settlement on the Mississippi river.

21:27

Wonderful. And it is

21:30

built out of sun dried

21:32

tomatoes. And I know

21:35

I was, Oh

21:37

wait, how do you feel about a sun dried tomato? Absolutely.

21:41

You throw it in the trash. Agreed.

21:43

Set it on fire. There's just

21:45

no reason. And we did,

21:47

we did it. We finally found our

21:49

tomato common ground. Oh, I'm

21:52

sleeping. Literally, yeeted

21:55

their headphones off. Oh

21:58

man. No, a sun dried tomato. tomato can

22:01

honestly kiss my ass. And then

22:03

when they leave the end of it,

22:05

where the tomato vine was, it's like,

22:07

now you want to make me eat

22:09

a dried up leaf root

22:12

thing? Get out of here. I

22:14

gotta be honest, whoever created that can

22:16

rot. It's gross.

22:19

It's gross. It feels like you're eating a raisin,

22:21

but it's tomato, but also it's not- But it's

22:23

tomato raisin! You're right, it's a tomato raisin. It's

22:25

literally tomato raisin. That's fucking gross. And the fact

22:27

that you want to put a raisin in my

22:29

pasta- I'm gonna

22:31

get upset. Yeah,

22:34

I just can't even pretend to be on board

22:36

with that. One more second and I'm gonna snap. When

22:38

other people order it, or if I see them ordering a

22:40

dish and they don't say no sun

22:42

dried tomatoes, I always hope that

22:44

they're making- that they forgot to say it.

22:47

They're just- they're gonna be so disappointed when

22:49

their meal comes. I'm like, oh, you

22:51

fucked up. And then- huge

22:53

mistake. Like it's the table, they do that-

22:55

they twirl their little fork around in the pasta,

22:58

they go slurp slurp slurp, they're eating it real

23:00

good. Not a one complaint. And

23:02

I'm like, oh, wow, we can't be friends

23:04

anymore. Actually, you're not even there anymore, you've

23:06

just- That's the truth. Yeah,

23:12

the only thing I like about a tomato is when

23:14

it's juicy. So if you're gonna take the one

23:17

quality about it away- Right. Don't make

23:19

it hot and don't make it dry

23:22

it up. You said

23:24

it. That's a raisin. That's

23:27

a raisin. And so, uh, anyway,

23:31

this building was- Jordan, stop listening. I'm

23:33

so mad at you right now. I'm

23:35

so mad at you.

23:41

I think Jordan doesn't realize she got

23:44

by proxy a whole other client. Um,

23:46

no, I'm like, I'm meeting with her

23:48

later. I feel like the more I say it, people are gonna

23:50

be like, is that a real thing? No, I'm just being fucking

23:52

annoying. And I'm sorry. My sessions are

23:54

all of a sudden going to be her wanting to

23:56

analyze you. I don't know. Yeah, you're gonna be coming

23:58

to me with some real- specific advice and I'm

24:01

gonna be like that's weird where did you come up

24:03

with that you're like nowhere just my own head yes

24:08

King's Tavern is built out of sun-dried bricks but

24:10

also here's an even more fun fact according

24:12

to me and maybe nobody else is that

24:14

okay it's also made from

24:17

recycled wood and this

24:19

wood originally came from the flat

24:23

river boats that would come down the river to

24:25

sell goods oh but then

24:27

I guess I don't know river

24:29

science okay I don't understand I

24:31

do so I'll help okay so

24:35

these boats I

24:38

guess they could not come back up the river

24:40

because they were flat bottom yep so

24:42

they basically they no I'm serious right

24:49

as a flat

24:51

bottomed individual no

24:54

okay so

24:57

we grew I grew up on

25:02

the Ohio River which feeds into the Mississippi River

25:05

right and so we learned a lot about we

25:07

had to go to tall stacks which was like

25:09

the big festival on the river where they had

25:11

all the steamboats and we learned at

25:13

the museum they have a whole like sea boat set up you

25:15

learn about how the boats work and how they

25:17

shipped goods and you can still hear barges from my

25:19

house sometimes for a long time I thought it was

25:22

a train and my brother's like that's not a train

25:24

that's a barge and I was like interesting but

25:26

anyway the flat ones yeah they go down a

25:28

certain direction they

25:31

like basically get put in the water you

25:33

load it up with goodies and then

25:35

it's and by goodies I mean just like

25:37

fucking wood or coal or some shit yeah

25:39

and then it gets like boo eat it

25:41

down I don't know why I'm keep saying

25:43

that word down the river it's like I'm hanging out

25:45

with a jet alpha or all of a

25:47

sudden yeah I know right look at me go and

25:49

then they but

25:52

they can't like they don't like motors or

25:54

anything right they're just kind of like driften

25:56

along yeah driften Tokyo

25:59

Joe But how come they can't come

26:01

back up the river? Because the river

26:03

current flows one way. Oh,

26:05

I didn't know if there was like they like, in

26:08

my brain, my eight year old

26:10

understanding of rivers is like, wouldn't you just build

26:15

a hill or something through it so that way

26:17

there would, it could flow another

26:19

direction or things could turn around.

26:21

I don't think you could like change the way the Mississippi

26:23

River flows, but I mean, maybe I'm wrong. I

26:26

mean, obviously not, but is there, in

26:28

my mind, there was a way where you would like to just

26:30

take a shovel and kind of just dig, dig, dig in a

26:32

certain area so the water would flow a different direction as

26:35

like a little, an offshoot of

26:37

the real river and you could direct

26:39

how that. I just think if you're gonna cross like

26:42

the United States, that's just a lot of, That's

26:44

a fair thing. Do you know what I mean? Like if you're

26:46

coming from all the way up here, all the way through, it's

26:48

gonna be a long way to try and dig your way back.

26:50

You might as well just. I think it's

26:53

a miracle that I made

26:55

it past elementary science, but also

26:57

it makes me really sad to

26:59

the teachers. I'm like, wow,

27:01

you must have been struggling, at least with me. I

27:04

mean, honestly, isn't the thing anyone who doesn't

27:06

live in like a historic river

27:09

town would ever learn? I don't think

27:11

so. So I wouldn't beat yourself up

27:13

about it. All right, hopefully

27:16

moving on. Oh wait, no, we can't because

27:18

we're in the middle of the fun fact. So

27:22

the building was made of sun dried bricks and

27:24

recycled wood from these boats because since the boats

27:26

couldn't come back up the rivers, the people who

27:28

were selling the goods on the boat were like,

27:30

why don't I just add to my profit and

27:32

then rip the boat apart when I'm done with

27:34

it and then sell those scraps as wood scraps.

27:37

Reduceries recycle, I kind of love it. And

27:40

then I'm like, did you just like walk

27:42

all the way back? What'd you do? They

27:45

take a boat, like a different boat or like a

27:48

steamboat or a train, I don't know.

27:51

Hmm, okay, anyway, we

27:53

could talk about this forever because my brain won't be able

27:55

to pull this thing. Well you want to, I'm ready, let's

27:57

do it. Okay, so. Anyway,

28:01

that's the fun fact. It's made of old boat. And

28:04

in 1769, they say that the original structure

28:08

here was built, 1769, which

28:11

in US terms, that's an old

28:13

fucking building. Well, that's not even in US terms,

28:15

right? Well, it's

28:17

Mississippi. I know, but it hasn't even

28:19

become the US. Oh, yes, yeah, totally. But

28:23

I'd be like for us to even have like

28:25

history of this land is... Yeah,

28:27

yeah, yeah. It's been built past 1800. Right,

28:30

right, right, right. So

28:32

1769, the original part here was built. And

28:34

just like how you said, it's not even American yet,

28:36

because it was built for the British as

28:39

a block house or an observation point. And

28:43

then after a Revolutionary War, it ends

28:45

up being part...

28:47

it became part of our land, obviously, and it

28:49

was bought by Richard King and his

28:51

family. Oh, I understand. That's

28:53

the name of that. Because I thought King's

28:56

Tavern was the Brits being like, you must

28:58

abide by our King. But no, totally. I

29:01

thought the same thing. Yeah, isn't that kind of ironic?

29:03

That's kind of funny. I know. Like, oh, well, then

29:05

an American quote, I don't even know what that means

29:07

that in 1780, but... Except

29:09

for a colonizer. A

29:12

one day American whose name

29:14

happened to be King. That's

29:16

pretty wild. I know. That is actually... I

29:18

hadn't put it that way in my head yet. So

29:23

the King... Nope, now you fucked me up, not

29:25

the King. So Richard King... Sorry.

29:28

Richard King took this

29:31

old observation point, turned it into

29:33

a tavern and inn. And also,

29:35

another fun fact is he... because

29:38

the country was so new, he turned

29:40

it into like the town's first post

29:43

office. And he wasn't... it's

29:45

not like he was like a postmaster or

29:47

anything, but he kind of made like a

29:49

makeshift in the back.

29:51

He would just take people's packages and mail them for

29:53

him. And... When I learned...

29:55

I mean, you might mention this, but I learned from my

29:57

brother recently that you need to... that... and

30:00

well I don't know if it was back then I don't know what year

30:02

what decade but in order

30:04

to be incorporated as a town you needed a post

30:06

office so maybe he's like oh

30:09

let's or was it already a town? I

30:11

think it had like last week it

30:13

became a town. Okay maybe they went

30:15

hand in hand. You know I don't know it has

30:18

to be updated since but I remember in school

30:20

you know the school where they didn't teach

30:22

me about rivers enough I always heard that

30:24

you had to have

30:26

five things to be a town you had to have a school

30:29

a hospital a post office

30:31

I think it was

30:33

like a grocery store on a police station or

30:35

a courthouse in a grocery store and a five

30:37

below. Yeah

30:40

a beat up. I

30:44

don't know if there has to be that's

30:47

not enough things in

30:50

today's world so I feel like it's changed but I do

30:52

believe the post office thing you have to have a post

30:54

office. The post office thing I feel like makes some sense

30:56

at least back then. Um and

31:00

blah blah blah so yeah so he turned

31:02

it into a makeshift post office he and

31:04

he renovated into a tavern now this is

31:06

where I want to tell you about one

31:08

of my adventures while we've been traveling lately

31:10

which I think was

31:12

Connecticut I don't they all get so muddled up

31:15

I go to like 100 places per

31:17

town so I can't keep up

31:19

I think it was in Connecticut

31:21

uh I'm

31:25

pretty sure but there's a museum

31:28

that has a whole

31:30

exhibit just dedicated to old

31:33

uh tavern signs

31:36

that have been saved since like

31:38

the beginning of the town. Cool.

31:41

I can send Megan some pictures if anyone feels

31:44

like that's interesting to look up but uh there's

31:49

there was like tavern signs from like the

31:51

1700s and it had

31:53

it feels like it was probably Connecticut that feels like it

31:55

was probably somewhere in New England at least um

31:58

but so it was just this whole room. Have

32:00

preserved. Tavern signs that were hand payne

32:03

said they were like hand carved by the people

32:05

as it was all good at the time. And.

32:08

I guess at the time. It

32:10

was common and an oath it was. Like mandatory but

32:12

a lot of the signs I saw the

32:15

from the seventeen hundreds and early eighteen hundreds

32:17

is where I saw ending. As

32:19

all the signs said at the bottom.

32:22

Entertainment for Man and Horse and

32:25

that was apparently Cena Vs. Not

32:27

spelled with an easy it was

32:29

just H O R S like

32:31

orders. okay. But. Apparently.

32:35

It's that was like the phrase originally to

32:37

let people know as they're driving into town

32:39

and they're looking for a place to stay

32:41

at they see on any painted signed entertainment

32:44

from him horse that mens. Wear a

32:46

tavern and probably and in the but

32:48

here to say adding that he. Said

32:50

the horse gets fit, said to and can

32:52

park. I guess that's. What? It means by entertainment

32:54

for the horse by us like will keep your

32:56

horse while you go to take a map. Whoa. it's

32:59

away wiser now. he. is that just how they spelled

33:01

horse I guess so I don't Then Then that makes

33:03

me wonder what's the history of. The eve

33:05

becoming part of horse. Yeah. Maybe

33:08

they put the basketball him. You

33:13

know what smart ass thing on a.

33:16

Horse. Start. Being.

33:19

Spelled with and he.

33:23

Ah, Ok

33:26

it. Immediately I'm at

33:28

Be Chronicle. The. Crow know

33:30

of horse. The Chronicle of the Horse. Oh

33:32

some horse called tolerance for this. Okay, some

33:35

of the early. Which. By

33:37

the way, when trust anyone else

33:39

who else can we expect them

33:41

in of so informative. So.

33:44

Old English Horse. From

33:47

proto Germanic. Foul. Curse.

33:50

Or it's. Oh

33:52

okay, so a horse H O R S.

33:55

Is Old English and a comes from the

33:57

Old Norse. Imagine

34:00

your head. Si Se

34:02

is see. So.

34:06

Other. Words for horse at the time were

34:08

old an Old Norse. it was H R.

34:10

O S S. so gross with an H.

34:12

Sensitivity occur. There

34:15

was also H O R S. There was

34:17

O R S. For the this

34:19

is a show up says. Is a multiple

34:21

multiple ways? Say it. I'm. I'm

34:25

looking for the Damion and will see anything I

34:27

did see that didn't help me. Of.

34:31

A. I refuse to move

34:33

on and so is figure this out. Know

34:36

I give up. Or get. The

34:39

most ever seen by the way but active not

34:41

cut out of silence in there like if you

34:43

if you like. Letter M.

34:46

Say i'm gonna, we're gonna sit here until I

34:48

figured this out. in the mood in the same

34:50

breath, say never mind, they give up There was

34:52

no editing that was a straight for going through.

34:56

You'd have I felt the pressure. I did

34:58

like it, so I was. I mean it wouldn't like

35:00

literally no pressure. But you know, at ah,

35:03

I. Appreciate you trying. Gave.

35:05

Her some reason you end up doing like a bathroom break.

35:07

I might go back to. The perusing, but until

35:09

then it was. I'm. Yeah,

35:12

that of hundred russian and over two

35:14

years ago. Okay, I guess

35:16

I'll never know. So the King Savard

35:18

was a tavern and also makes. Your

35:20

post office and probably said entertainer for

35:23

men and horse out. Any on the

35:25

sign says. The same things Tavern

35:27

became this they popular spot

35:29

that because matches Mississippi was

35:31

a port town and specifically

35:33

because this area of town

35:35

was on the main route

35:37

back to the river. Where

35:40

it was a prime target for outlaws. To

35:42

prey on travelers? Oh boy. Because.

35:45

They would sell their goods, make all

35:47

this money from selling other gods say

35:49

at the tavern. And they had

35:52

just pockets full of money because they had

35:54

just sold all or goods when they came

35:56

into town. Yeah, that's that's that's seems like

35:58

the restless some that folks. Yeah,

36:00

so there was a lot of bad folk

36:02

who knew this routine and so they would stay at the

36:04

tavern just waiting for people with a bunch of money to

36:07

come in and either rob them while

36:09

they were staying at the end that night or Also

36:11

get a room that night and follow them out

36:13

to the to the route by themselves and then

36:18

And it sounds a little like Not

36:22

as intense but it feels a lot like the Shanghai

36:24

tunnels that we've talked about where

36:26

they would just rob

36:28

people coming in but they would like drop them

36:30

down into a dungeon and Did

36:32

the traffic them traffic them and it

36:34

was a lot of times travelers are

36:37

people who like quote-unquote wouldn't be missed

36:39

because They weren't being nobody knew

36:41

where they were So

36:44

because there was this was a big

36:47

area for the outlaws There

36:50

was a lot of criminals that would stay

36:52

here or at least pass through and the

36:55

most famous of them was a Para

36:57

brothers called I think the harp brothers. It

37:00

was harp with an e Sort

37:04

of it's harpy or whatever, but I think it's a heart

37:06

brothers they were allegedly or cm

37:08

so They

37:14

were allegedly America's first serial killers, which I feel like

37:16

a lot of people try to claim that title But

37:18

they're in the running. I was gonna say oh so

37:20

is a chames and so was the

37:22

bender family So I don't know family.

37:24

Yeah but

37:27

they You

37:29

know they're one of the first I guess I mean

37:31

if America really has only been like 10 years old

37:33

I've maybe if the US is only

37:35

a few years old. Yeah, that's it. They got a

37:38

good head start I will give them that mostly

37:40

they're one of the first sets of serial killers Because

37:43

they wouldn't just rob these travelers

37:46

They like had a full-blown interest

37:48

in the absolute worst kind

37:50

of maiming torturing Fuck

37:54

Which I feel like Jordan if you're listening

37:56

I wonder what that means as like people

37:58

who probably just like experience the Revolutionary

38:00

War. I wonder,

38:03

not to justify what

38:05

they were going through, but I wonder like,

38:10

mental illness wise, if therapy was where it

38:12

is today, I wonder what people would

38:14

be saying about them based on what was going on

38:16

in the world. I mean, probably what I say

38:18

about every serial killer, which is like,

38:20

what a damage past they have and

38:24

terrible coping skills and maybe their sociopath

38:26

or psychopath. I don't know. I

38:29

would bet that these people absolutely

38:31

had some just

38:34

natural things they

38:36

were dealing with especially. They had to have

38:38

some tendencies because you can't just, just

38:40

because you got a war doesn't make

38:42

you a gruesome,

38:45

brutal serial killer with like, you

38:47

know. No, but I was

38:49

thinking more like, well, I guess

38:52

the years, it doesn't add up years wise.

38:54

I was going to say, like, I wonder if there's like some sort

38:56

of, I

38:59

don't know, trauma of like, their

39:02

family went to war and then they heard all these

39:04

stories and they got really normalized for them. I don't

39:06

know if there was any secondary things that helped along.

39:08

In that war, you know what I mean? Yeah, sure.

39:11

I'm just saying like, you know, there must

39:13

be some natural inclination because otherwise everyone

39:16

who was traumatized would be a fucking

39:18

serial killer. I do wonder what

39:20

the psychology of it, because I feel like we hear

39:22

a lot of like, World War II and like you

39:24

hear about like shell shock and things like that. I

39:27

feel like I don't know anything about the psychology

39:29

of people after the Revolutionary War. Well, we're not

39:31

studying the psychology of people after the Revolution. I

39:33

know, I know. I, it would

39:35

be interesting to learn about it. Time

39:37

travel once again. Where is it? Hurry

39:39

up. I would love for like a

39:41

league of therapists to go back in

39:43

time and just tell us what

39:46

was going on with these people after the fact. That

39:48

would be such a good screenplay. You're

39:51

the writer between us. You handle that.

39:53

Mm-mm-mm. That sounds like so much

39:55

work. I don't, I would have to study stuff. Anyway,

39:58

regardless of environment, these people were. fucked

40:00

up like these were I'm not trying to blame

40:02

it on anything that was just that became a

40:04

side tangent in case anyone wants to like I

40:07

don't know get mad about that but

40:10

uh no they were just probably naturally

40:13

all on their own 100 awful

40:15

people uh because they

40:18

were let's see let's give let's give

40:20

you an example their gang's calling card

40:22

was to gut people and

40:25

then remove their insides refilled them with

40:27

rocks and sink them in the river what

40:30

enough I mean what the fuck that's what I'm saying you know

40:32

I'm saying like I should have probably said that

40:34

before I went on my little bout before people

40:36

think that I'm like conflating two situations but uh

40:39

no they were with or without

40:41

their scenarios it's a pretty icky situation

40:44

yeah they were fucked up they

40:46

also had um wives

40:50

which uh were young girls

40:53

that were kidnapped oh god and they would do x

40:56

y and z to these poor girls god

40:59

um if

41:01

they got them pregnant the

41:04

baby was not going to be around oh my lord would

41:06

just do continue to do whatever they wanted

41:08

to these girls until they guess I guess I got bored of them

41:10

got I

41:12

guess I got bored of them got rid of them

41:14

found new ones and

41:17

oh god okay not

41:20

a moral to be found uh

41:22

fun facts about them though both

41:24

of them in separate instances they

41:27

like parted ways they

41:29

both end up being killed they both end

41:31

up being beheaded and their

41:34

heads both end up mounted on the

41:36

same road as warnings to people oh

41:39

isn't that weird oh

41:41

that's creepy one of them

41:43

like I

41:46

don't I don't know all the details of each of

41:48

their stories but I know one of them

41:50

was beheaded the other then

41:52

like witnessed that and ran off to like join

41:54

a band of pirates or something and then uh

41:57

he Ended

42:00

up getting in trouble with the course and they executed

42:02

him and beheaded him next to his brother. Oh Or

42:05

put his head next to his brother Okay, and

42:08

one of the spots where one of their

42:10

heads was mounted is still called Harp's head

42:12

Road Dear Lord, can you imagine

42:14

you like moved to the area and you're like, oh

42:16

I'm Zilla. There's this beautiful like little cabin Like

42:19

hey, what's the history of the name and the real tears

42:21

like I would not know

42:23

I don't know look it up Yeah,

42:26

cuz I would think like head like Harp's head Hmm,

42:30

what could that mean? What could that mean? I would never think

42:32

I would mean to awful

42:34

awful awful like serial killers Being

42:36

beheaded here, you know and

42:39

displayed right outside your home. Yeah,

42:42

so They

42:44

frequented Kings Tavern and because of them or

42:46

at least one of the brothers We

42:49

have our first death in the

42:51

at the tavern While

42:53

alive one of them loved to hang around

42:55

Kings Tavern, but the story goes Hmm,

43:00

I don't know if you want to hear this one I

43:02

don't know if I want to hear it cuz you just made a creepy

43:05

pause I do you want to take your headphones off?

43:07

Well, I say this to everybody else. Are you serious?

43:10

I think so It's

43:12

a baby. Oh, okay. Yeah, go

43:15

ahead. I'm not listening. Okay, so

43:17

they Basically,

43:19

well, he was alive. He liked to hang

43:21

out around the bar and one night he

43:23

was annoyed by one of the lodgers who

43:28

Was saying there because she had a crying baby in

43:30

her room and he did not like that So he

43:33

went up to her room grab the baby from

43:35

the mother's arms grab

43:37

the baby's ankles and Slam

43:39

the baby into the wall and that's

43:41

how the baby died Thumbs

43:45

up and Christine felt weird And

43:48

back the baby died. Well, I

43:50

figured I'm assuming they didn't throw him a

43:52

birthday party I

43:54

heard nothing what happened. It was the longest

43:56

explanation of whatever horrible thing. I just it

43:59

kept going But also I found myself in

44:01

a very peaceful state and you

44:03

know in the future It would be nice every now and then for

44:05

one of us to just take our headphones off because I just heard

44:07

the breeze And I just watched

44:09

you talk, but I couldn't hear anything. It was

44:11

actually quite peaceful. Oh good Well,

44:13

I know that's a that's a personal

44:16

sensitivity for obvious reasons I

44:18

appreciate you saying that in all like in

44:20

all seriousness and not just joking That

44:22

was probably good for my brain. I

44:24

don't think you would have and also I feel

44:26

that I hope anyone else who was listening Understood

44:28

the warning was coming. I agree. I hope the

44:31

gist was like clear. So yeah, I'm with me

44:35

But yeah anyway, so the first

44:37

death was a baby and it

44:40

was one of the Hart brothers doings and

44:43

Another death here moving on quickly

44:45

is said to be of a waitress named

44:47

Madeline can Madeline

44:50

I guess she started here as a server But

44:52

the legend goes that Richard King the owner of

44:54

the tavern had an affair with her and his

44:57

wife found out and It

45:00

said that the wife stabbed her to death with a

45:02

dagger. Oh my god and

45:04

one day Conveniently around this

45:06

time Madeline goes mysteriously missing no

45:09

one ever finds her and we'll

45:11

come back to this real quick But just know

45:13

that the story goes that Richard's wife killed her.

45:15

Oof. Okay, so then with the

45:17

advent of the steamboat

45:20

All of a sudden there were less stops passing through

45:22

this area. Ah, ha see now they can go backwards

45:26

Yeah and so

45:28

because now that there are new

45:30

inventions that keep people from coming here all the

45:32

time the tavern starts suffering and in

45:36

1817 the Kings the

45:38

King family sells the tavern and then the

45:40

thing bought Yeah, 1817 And

45:45

ends up being bought by the hostile

45:47

waif family. Oh boy. Oh boy Big

45:50

old name and they ended

45:52

up living in this house for like five

45:55

generations I think they said it was almost 150

45:57

years. So people oh geez. Oh my god Which

46:00

is wild because people still think of it as a tavern,

46:02

but for like a big chunk of

46:04

it, it was someone's home. Well I also,

46:06

it's funny that they keep calling it King's

46:09

Tavern probably because Postlewaite or whatever is not

46:11

as catchy of a title. Even though they're

46:13

the ones that were there for so long.

46:16

I know, it's like, yeah I wonder if

46:18

people just couldn't pronounce it. They bring to it, yeah. Postlewaite.

46:22

Postlewaite? Postle-less. Yeah.

46:24

Postle-less? I'm

46:26

glad you do that too. Because in

46:28

my head I'll just be making

46:31

every sound version of that possible.

46:33

Postlewaite? Yeah. Although multiple family

46:35

members probably died on the property just

46:37

because 150 years of someone living

46:39

there. Something must have happened. The

46:42

only one that we know for sure is

46:44

that one of the women in

46:46

the 1860s who lived there, her name

46:48

was Elizabeth Postlewaite. Postlewaite?

46:51

Postlewaite? And she

46:53

died in the 1860s. We don't know how, we just

46:55

know that she did. So

46:58

she's maybe one of the ghosts. The

47:01

family, while still living there in the 1930s,

47:03

they were like, oh this building's actually been

47:06

around since like the 1770s. It's

47:08

time for a reno. Let's just like give

47:11

her, put some lipstick on that pig. Yeah

47:14

lipstick on the pig. Some paint on that

47:16

barn. And so while they

47:18

were doing renovations, I think this was in

47:20

1932, they broke apart the chimney

47:22

in the main room, which was where the tavern

47:24

was. And when they broke

47:27

through the chimney, they found three skeletons. Two

47:31

of them were men. Imagine just knowing that for the last

47:33

like 1817 to 1930s, that's 30, 80, that's literally over 100

47:35

years of living there. And

47:41

just to find out now the area you

47:43

like had the Christmas tree. I

47:46

just feel like I would no longer believe in ghosts

47:48

because I'd be like, well, if one never showed itself

47:50

to me and I'm living with three dead bodies in

47:52

the fireplace, then they can't be real.

47:54

Sorry, I just don't believe it. That's

47:56

a great point. But also I'd be like,

47:58

wow, I've just been like having every family.

48:00

a fair, every function, every event of my

48:03

life has just been next to three skeletons in

48:05

the entire fucking time. Yeah. Horrifying.

48:07

Which I mean, honestly, I mean, I guess it's

48:09

sort of the case for a lot of

48:12

people who live, I mean, you

48:14

wouldn't, you would know though, most of the

48:16

time, like living by cemetery or having

48:18

people buried in the backyard. Yeah, but like cemetery

48:20

or like in your living room? Yeah, right. Exactly.

48:24

And you would know, presumably if it were like where someone

48:26

was laid to rest versus like, oh, they're just in the

48:28

walls. We never told you about it. Yeah,

48:30

it's so freaky. And I

48:32

guess the only reason they were doing renovations is because the

48:34

chimney never really worked when they were there. So they never

48:36

turned it on. Holy

48:38

shit, they were like, oh, I

48:41

guess we'll eventually get to that chimney thing.

48:43

Oh my God. And so that's why they

48:45

were like, these skeletons were like preserved because

48:47

they weren't having fires in this

48:49

thing. Oh, I thought they were like setting the

48:52

fire and being like, why does it keep going out? Why

48:54

does it feel like bodies in the fucking body? Yeah,

48:57

I just like the fucking body. Megan,

49:00

Megan. Oh,

49:02

throwback. So yeah,

49:04

found three skeletons in there. Two were men. And to this day,

49:06

we don't know who they were. Oh my

49:09

God. I saw one source

49:11

say maybe it was the Hart brothers, but then that

49:13

goes against every other source talking about the beheading thing.

49:15

Well, yeah, I guess if they were headless maybe, but

49:17

sounds like they were not. And

49:21

then one is a woman. And

49:24

she happens to, I guess, I

49:26

don't know what the science was in the

49:28

1930s, but I guess she seemed to be

49:31

the age and size of Madeline. Oh

49:34

shit. Okay. Okay. Okay.

49:37

And next to the female

49:39

skeleton was a

49:41

bejeweled dagger. And

49:45

so I am old of all things. Wow. Oh

49:48

my God. Oh my God. Oh

49:50

my God. Oh my God. And I feel like, um, I don't know

49:52

if it's the chicken or the egg situation. I don't know if they

49:55

saw the skeleton and this dagger and put

49:57

that story of Madeline together or they're really

50:00

was Madeline and she

50:03

went missing and the King family

50:05

had some sort of quarrel with her and

50:08

then they happened to find a skeleton and a dagger. I don't know

50:10

which came first but the story ended up

50:12

kind of putting these two events together. Okay,

50:14

I got you, I got you. So

50:16

many think that this skeleton was Madeline

50:19

and that Mrs. King either kills her

50:21

herself with a dagger or paid someone

50:23

else to do it and then bricked

50:25

her into the very room she and

50:27

Mrs. King's husband were flirting and having

50:30

the affair, which is so symbolic and

50:32

it feels real personal for sure.

50:35

Yeah, yeah. But

50:37

anyway, just how you were saying, if I've

50:40

been in this room for 100 years and never saw a

50:42

ghost with three dead bodies next to me, then like ghosts

50:45

shouldn't be real? Yeah. Well,

50:48

I guess, I don't know if that's how

50:50

they felt, but it doesn't sound like they

50:52

ever had an experience with anything paranormal until

50:54

the spirits were found and

50:57

removed. Oh, okay. They

51:00

still shut up. So now you believe in ghosts.

51:02

Now I believe in ghosts in this scenario. Yeah,

51:05

okay. I'm back to believing them within

51:08

a day or two. Okay.

51:12

So we don't know much about the

51:14

postal, fossil waif families

51:16

experience with ghosts. We

51:19

just know that the first recount of them

51:22

is from the 70s. Okay.

51:27

But the renovation didn't happen, or only

51:29

happened in the 30s. So there's a 40 year gap that

51:31

we don't know about. But

51:35

the only reason we even have a comment from

51:37

the 70s is because someone asked about it being

51:39

haunted and someone made a comment saying, oh yeah,

51:41

I've always heard about it being haunted. And it

51:43

just happened to be then. Yeah.

51:45

So it could have been 40 years

51:48

of ghosts and just no one wrote it down until the 70s.

51:50

We don't know. Right. Because no

51:52

one asked. Yeah. Well, if

51:55

you ask, I hate that fucking line. Well, if you asked. So

51:57

in the 70s. rude

52:00

sorry it's over yeah yeah

52:03

well you should ask what no that's not

52:05

how this works I feel like that's kind of

52:07

like a I don't know we could okay

52:10

what else is rude that people do

52:12

okay 1970s hits and from 18 1817

52:15

it was sold from the Kings right

52:25

the the possible weights moved in like a few years later like

52:27

in the 20s 1820s so now we're in the 1970s this is

52:29

150 years later they sell the building and

52:33

it reopens as restaurants now so now it's back to

52:35

being a tavern type

52:38

yeah mm-hmm and

52:42

one of the restaurants that

52:44

opens up right away once

52:46

it's sold from the family is it's called

52:48

the post house restaurant which I feel

52:50

like post was supposed to be a nod

52:52

to the postal weights I

52:54

didn't even get it or because it

52:57

was the town's first post office wait

52:59

what a fun double entendre though I

53:02

know and you want to

53:04

know another fun can you say it cuz I can't do it

53:06

I don't know oh yeah you say

53:08

the way you say it gets me

53:10

every time my dad always says

53:13

it's so annoying well so there's the

53:15

word post that could be post office or post

53:17

away huh or

53:19

it didn't be the the

53:21

postal weights sold it to a man

53:23

whose last name

53:26

was drink water and

53:28

it became a tavern again oh my

53:31

gosh that was a little interesting

53:33

by the way his first name was

53:36

thirsty little rat but I thought that

53:40

was interesting of like oh like someone named drink

53:42

water ends up making a restaurant yeah

53:45

I mean it sounds like that much but it's

53:47

still interesting fate was a had a

53:49

hand and fate was like I know you you

53:51

have to know what you're calling right from birth

53:54

yeah also like if he's not the most hydrated man

53:56

I've ever met I would be confused

53:58

honestly You probably know

54:00

it. Yeah. It

54:03

be a tighter now as it is his character

54:05

flaw. You know you know in college she drank.

54:07

A lot a beard is like my name's should

54:10

be. Drink beer, you know something? stupid. Yeah

54:12

and ever knows like that's not going to catch on like

54:14

you think it is. Swimming.

54:20

In the seventies it's from our souls and

54:23

reopened as restaurants. first the post house restaurant,

54:25

then I think there were some other restaurants

54:27

in between, but it ends his ends up

54:29

being. A reimagine Kings Tavern or that's

54:31

how it ends up becoming starting

54:33

our and all. Their. And

54:35

the and that is the name. But. They go with to and

54:38

everything so. Unfortunately,

54:40

This is how recent this building was still

54:42

around and the building around but it it's

54:44

no longer in Yes, because of coven. No.

54:47

Way. And they couldn't

54:49

recover after the com. I had an

54:51

on hundred years so behind the soaring

54:53

be like and then in twenty twenty

54:55

kids does anyone remember what happened? Paint.

54:59

Yeah. Boring,

55:02

but. Up until it's close

55:04

though, it was. Ah, So.

55:07

The staff are very proud of

55:09

it's haunted past. They would happily

55:11

tell stories to inquiring minds such

55:14

as ours as. I.

55:16

Said earlier, the first mention of ghosts

55:18

was in the seventies. This was an

55:20

article of the matches. And

55:22

as as democrats. And

55:24

it was a Nineteen Seventy four one of

55:26

the kids who grew up in the house

55:28

so I guess he's really to the post

55:31

with his name was Thomas Young and he

55:33

said my grandmother has told me many times

55:35

of the misty figure of the veiled woman

55:37

and a cloak with head bowed and hands

55:39

folded which stood at the foot of her

55:41

bed at night. When I

55:43

got o j. Illegal

55:45

trembling grandma and that was And seventy

55:47

four when I think he was talking

55:49

about the pass which would have been

55:51

much closer to. The thirties. right?

55:54

Said like that the previous decades

55:56

presumably. Yes, so it I'm

55:58

assuming haired that. It has

56:01

been haunted Sensei. Move those bodies out of

56:03

the chimney. Yeah. And.

56:05

Then I think this also help

56:07

boost their. Spooky. Credibility

56:09

and Nineteen eighty Four when a

56:12

reporter stayed the night. And.

56:14

Actually saw Madeleine are so she

56:16

claims because she than wrote an

56:19

article about it and it went

56:21

out in the National Enquirer which

56:23

ah could not be system as

56:25

the. Fact that a Sus thing we've ever

56:28

read by a I'm sure I don't know

56:30

about you, but I remember National Enquirer being

56:32

a big fucking thing and the nineties and.

56:34

Early two thousand a Iraq. I feel like everyone

56:36

had a copy of it. I.

56:38

Feel like that would have both. is

56:40

Nord that boy was from. Know,

56:43

but load outs from World Weekly News? Oh yeah,

56:45

you're a. National Clarion term

56:47

National Enquirer Like celebrity? Base

56:49

right? Church or? to? Yes? I'm.

56:53

Anyway, so I feel like that probably helps to gain some

56:55

traction in the. Paranormal. World's

56:58

I imagine. Early kept

57:00

it alive. Yeah, And

57:02

like I said afterwards, after the renovations

57:04

and the discovery of the bodies us.

57:07

In the spirit start coming through. Allegedly

57:09

Sat. There are several those in this house,

57:12

but Madeline is the most popular one of

57:14

them all. And again, we don't know how

57:16

accurate that story is. That could be a

57:18

totally made up thing. After. They found

57:20

a skeleton they just kind of ran with. A story

57:23

that she had an affair. Is

57:25

it is it for sure that. The

57:28

skeletons were actually sound like that part

57:30

sexual that Israel? Okay, And. The

57:33

dagger that there was dug in. the dagger.

57:35

The jewels. But rule the dagger.

57:38

And so we just we have

57:40

to assume that the mandolin. Silly

57:42

Israel, a cell is part of it's lore

57:44

now for right. By.

57:47

The other ghost other than Madeleine who's

57:49

the most popular are of people hear

57:51

a baby crying. And

57:53

people also see a red headed man and

57:55

a top hat. i

57:59

don't know who here I

58:01

like I just it just threw me for a second cuz I'm like

58:04

he's in a top hat but he has red

58:06

hair So like is it like coming is it

58:08

long is it like sideburns? I like to think

58:10

shaggy Shaggy, yeah, probably

58:12

you're probably like to think people actually see him take

58:14

his long hair He turns upside down and he sticks it

58:16

all in the top hat and then scores the side back

58:19

up And he doesn't even have hair all of a sudden

58:21

actually that's probably that sounds like what they meant Yeah, so

58:23

the ghost is walking down the hall You see him lift

58:26

his top hat and all of a sudden

58:28

just a cascade of red pearls fall right

58:30

out, right? Yeah, that sounds like

58:32

exactly how it went. I think a Maybelline commercial.

58:35

Yes So

58:38

what people experience here is they They

58:41

see fleeting reflections and the mirrors they

58:44

feel a warmth coming from unused beds like someone just

58:46

slept on it I know or like they'll even feel

58:48

like the The

58:53

the frame of the bed and it all feels really

58:55

hot for some reason. Oh the

58:58

bed will also Like the

59:00

blankets will move themselves. So it looks like someone was

59:02

sleeping in it when no one was People

59:05

see Madeline or a woman

59:07

in old-fashioned clothing Her face

59:09

apparently has been seen looking

59:11

at people in mirrors and

59:13

windows No, and after the

59:15

staff has just mopped the floors. There are

59:17

footprints in the puddles. Oh Oh,

59:20

that's creepy. That one's a Queen Mary a little

59:22

bit by the pool Yeah And

59:24

what I what I hate about that is that it

59:27

implies that when there aren't puddles on the floor They're

59:29

walking everywhere and we just don't think it's so true.

59:31

It's like you're just catching them now Yeah,

59:34

and it's weird that like we don't catch them They're

59:38

not immune to water. Yeah, I think is that

59:40

their only weakness or like a puddle? Oh,

59:42

no Because then that makes me think

59:44

if I caught them at the exact right moment I

59:46

just threw a bucket of water in their direction would

59:48

like a figure appear water imagine

59:52

Like why are your footprints not able to

59:54

hide could the rest of you hide? Yeah,

59:56

I don't totally get that Hmm.

59:58

It's one of the things where it makes

1:00:00

me feel like the ghost once attended. You

1:00:04

could in theory not

1:00:08

do that. Yeah, can you just stand there until the

1:00:10

water dries? But... Or

1:00:12

that, yeah. I feel like maybe

1:00:15

it's because... maybe it's like

1:00:17

a... well, it's gonna say residual, but then

1:00:19

like wouldn't it... would it still be leaving marks

1:00:21

on that? I don't know. Oh

1:00:23

yeah, like if it's interfering with our world, then

1:00:25

how much of that world is it attached

1:00:27

to? Yes, exactly. Like if they can move water

1:00:30

around with their feet, even if it's just a

1:00:32

residual haunting. Oh lord,

1:00:34

I have a headache already. I feel like if...

1:00:36

like let's say they have... there's like a bowl

1:00:38

of water or like pancake batter or something. I

1:00:41

feel like if they could

1:00:43

hit that and prove that there's been

1:00:45

like emotion or like they could... yeah...

1:00:47

could happen. It's like they could interact

1:00:49

with liquids voluntarily in my mind, but

1:00:51

to... yeah. But yeah,

1:00:53

it doesn't feel like a residual haunting if they're

1:00:56

walking through something where they're...

1:00:58

like if their blueprint theory is that

1:01:01

they walk in this path, but

1:01:04

there happens to be a puddle in the way right

1:01:06

now in the time and space, why

1:01:08

is it overlapping in a way where like

1:01:10

they're in their world but it's affecting our

1:01:12

world? Right, exactly. Like should

1:01:15

it just be... I don't

1:01:17

know. But then I guess like that you could say the same thing

1:01:19

about like when they're walking down a hall and

1:01:21

all of a sudden the door moves and

1:01:23

it's because they're walking into our door. That's

1:01:25

true. So maybe

1:01:28

like we're just in the way of them having

1:01:30

a residual moment. I mean I don't doubt we're

1:01:33

in the way. It's some way or another. I

1:01:37

don't even know where to begin. My brain has broken.

1:01:39

You need to take one of those

1:01:41

edibles that you love so much. I sure... I don't

1:01:44

think I do. I think it would end up really

1:01:46

bad for all of us if I did. I think

1:01:48

I would be the most annoying person. Well

1:01:51

so they say that's how Madeline haunts the

1:01:53

place but she's also responsible for jars falling

1:01:55

off of shelves which like wow I hope

1:01:57

that they are like shatterproof.

1:02:00

Like that's yeah We're

1:02:02

filled with something like not

1:02:04

super not like olive juice or something like something

1:02:06

like jam that you can at least know that's

1:02:09

sticky Something

1:02:11

with it's like we're just holding one big like

1:02:13

a kiwi It's just a bit

1:02:15

of a car of the kiwi. Yeah It's

1:02:17

a sun-dried play-doh. We all have a kiwi

1:02:20

jar at home. So we all get it

1:02:23

We all know what that's like. Yeah Um,

1:02:26

yeah, I also imagine just being a ghost

1:02:28

and like you're not doing anything wrong or

1:02:30

like you're living out the blueprint theory You're

1:02:33

just walking around your own fucking house. It's not my fault that

1:02:35

there's jars in my way. They're gonna get knocked over Your

1:02:38

kiwis don't even need to be in a

1:02:40

jar moron Yeah

1:02:42

But apparently she's responsible for

1:02:44

it. So jars are falling off

1:02:46

the shelves there. They're blaming Madeleine It might not

1:02:48

even be her name and like it might not

1:02:51

even be her story. There's just someone getting blamed

1:02:53

constantly about it No Apparently

1:02:57

they're the doors of the entire building

1:02:59

will open and close if you say

1:03:01

her name So, I mean she's

1:03:03

at least responsive to the name at this point whether or not it was

1:03:05

who she was Like fine. I

1:03:07

given I guess I'll answer to Madeleine It's

1:03:10

like I guess that's my nickname now But

1:03:13

yeah The doors will open and close or even

1:03:15

worse is like doors that are really sticky and

1:03:17

refuse to close will only close if you say

1:03:19

Her name it's like she which she does kind

1:03:22

of want the attention, you know It sounds like

1:03:24

it. I feel like

1:03:26

my original theory was right. I think

1:03:28

you're right, too Yeah,

1:03:31

those same doors they will only open and

1:03:33

close if you like Mention her

1:03:35

or ask her to open and close them

1:03:37

faucets will turn on and off by themselves

1:03:40

The chairs that are hung on the wall because

1:03:43

you know like in some like old general stores

1:03:45

Oh, yeah, yours is decoration on the wall. I

1:03:47

know it's not decoration It's like for storage, but looks

1:03:49

like decoration they will apparently rock by

1:03:52

themselves on the wall No And

1:03:56

this one's weird water

1:03:58

mysteriously pours from the sea without

1:04:00

ever leaving any damage. And like any

1:04:03

cause. Like they'll look through the pipes

1:04:05

and nothing's wrong. Okay,

1:04:08

so this is the second water thing, you know?

1:04:10

That's kind of weird, isn't it? Yeah. Interesting.

1:04:13

Because like water wasn't part

1:04:16

of her story. Yeah, at least

1:04:18

as far as we know. Although

1:04:20

fire in a chimney, maybe

1:04:23

an opposite day situation. I

1:04:25

don't know. Maybe. Madeline

1:04:29

Wayhan. So

1:04:32

people have also witnessed shadow figures on the

1:04:34

stairs and a woman staring at them from

1:04:36

across the room. The man

1:04:38

in the top hat has a much more sinister

1:04:40

feeling to him, and some have thought that maybe

1:04:42

he's one of the Heart Brothers still coming into

1:04:44

the tavern. Oh shit, were

1:04:46

they redheads? I don't know. Someone

1:04:50

look at their beheadings. No,

1:04:52

because I looked earlier when I googled them,

1:04:54

and they are all obviously

1:04:57

like just drawings because – so

1:05:00

they're not in color. I

1:05:03

don't know if they were redheads. Let's

1:05:05

pretend. Okay, let's

1:05:07

pretend. So when the spirit, this

1:05:09

top hat – Oh, but

1:05:12

they didn't wear – it does

1:05:14

not look like they were top

1:05:16

hats. They wore like bandage clothes.

1:05:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah, like furs and shit.

1:05:21

Okay, so maybe it

1:05:24

wasn't – I don't know. Whoever

1:05:27

it is, it's a bad ghost. And

1:05:31

when this spirit is around, people

1:05:33

have said they feel their chest

1:05:35

tightening. They have been strangled. They

1:05:37

felt irregular heart rates. They get

1:05:39

shoved, and people have gotten mild

1:05:41

attachments slash mild possessions from this

1:05:43

thing, where they start acting

1:05:46

completely out of character. They're

1:05:49

acting really discombobulated. They'll just wander around. Okay,

1:05:53

and like they have – what? It's

1:05:55

the word mild, mild possession.

1:05:58

Well, it's not really – exorcism

1:06:00

possession okay okay acting

1:06:03

out of sorts if

1:06:05

someone if I were possessed and someone said oh it's just

1:06:07

a mild case I would be like why don't you go

1:06:09

fuck yourself and then yeah okay that was a good point

1:06:11

that was a ghost talking but it looks like

1:06:14

a possession that is easily escapable and

1:06:16

like does not require like the Catholic

1:06:18

Church to get understood okay fair point

1:06:20

fair point like you can cleanse it

1:06:22

yeah yeah or like leave the premises

1:06:24

and it will like detach from you gotcha

1:06:26

okay thank

1:06:29

you so people have

1:06:32

seen this man upstairs like

1:06:35

by the steps they have heard noises throughout

1:06:37

the building that they associate with him dishes

1:06:39

have been thrown all across the kitchen and

1:06:41

they say it's him I guess like what's

1:06:43

the difference between jars and dishes yeah I

1:06:45

was gonna say wait so are we blaming

1:06:48

everything on her I feel

1:06:50

like jars I would

1:06:52

blame it all on I think anything inconvenient I would blame on

1:06:54

the bad guy I agree

1:06:58

but I guess some people say that the

1:07:00

jars it seems like they really are accidentally

1:07:02

knocked off where it's like a clumsy like a clumsy

1:07:07

girl I get it I get it but

1:07:10

the dishes get slammed down like it's violent

1:07:12

gotcha he's like this ain't this isn't me

1:07:14

being clumsy I yeah this is okay I

1:07:16

do want attention this is yeah gotcha

1:07:20

and so oh people

1:07:24

catch really startling EVPs they get

1:07:26

like really clear ones and

1:07:30

I'll give some examples of a second

1:07:32

but yeah cameras and equipment will malfunction

1:07:34

and die until you leave the property

1:07:36

and then it'll all like start back

1:07:38

up and be a full battery there's

1:07:41

one guy who appears oh I

1:07:43

think it might actually be the same guy the same top

1:07:45

guy he appears in the in pictures that

1:07:47

people take by the fireplace oh

1:07:51

so people think maybe he's one of the bodies that

1:07:53

was in the fire oh

1:07:55

wait there were two men right mm-hmm they

1:07:57

were interesting okay That

1:08:00

could make sense. So I wonder

1:08:02

if he's actually I mean in today's world

1:08:05

He is not a good spirit, but I

1:08:07

wonder if he's like just frustrated because he

1:08:10

never got Thinking like no

1:08:12

wonder he's pissed off I'd be pissed off

1:08:14

or maybe he's a victim of one of the

1:08:16

heart brothers or maybe he was And

1:08:19

we don't know we just know that he's very

1:08:21

mad and not good energy these

1:08:24

days. What the f? Women

1:08:27

have oh not not women people

1:08:29

have also seen a woman in these pictures

1:08:31

next to the fireplace and a lot of

1:08:33

people have Associated it with being Madeline because

1:08:35

she was found in the fireplace. Mm-hmm, but

1:08:39

Critics have also said actually

1:08:41

realistically It's probably that woman Elizabeth possal

1:08:44

ways because her family lived here for

1:08:46

like 150 years and she's the only

1:08:48

confirmed death in the family I see

1:08:50

okay. I mean that makes sense to me

1:08:54

Yeah, I also like I Feel

1:08:56

like for a family whose energy has been

1:08:59

here for so long and there

1:09:01

is at least one confirmed death Right.

1:09:03

She has to be one of the people haunting this place She

1:09:10

should be like ruling the wrong and she

1:09:12

gets yeah, she gets a slot number one

1:09:14

in my yeah. Yeah and But

1:09:18

yeah, so nobody talks about maybe her being one

1:09:20

of the ghosts which is so wild because we

1:09:22

don't even know if the Madeleine Story is real.

1:09:24

We know that there are skeletons. We just don't

1:09:26

know the true stories to them And

1:09:30

we know that Elizabeth died here

1:09:32

so right four confirmed in

1:09:35

the baby So there's that's five that's

1:09:37

at least two confirmed deaths in the building and three

1:09:39

skeletons which are assumed three more

1:09:41

deaths Yeah, but nobody

1:09:43

mentions Elizabeth every time they see a woman

1:09:45

They think it's Madeleine, but it's like what

1:09:47

about that fucking veiled woman crossing her hands

1:09:49

and shit like that Yeah, and nobody nobody

1:09:51

no takers And

1:09:53

someone actually got a picture upstairs one time

1:09:56

of a woman like a spirit of a

1:09:58

woman and apparently it's pretty Canny

1:10:00

to Elizabeth Pusslewaise. Haha.

1:10:03

So I wouldn't be surprised if her

1:10:05

whole family, if five generations of her family stayed

1:10:07

there, wouldn't she want to take care of the

1:10:09

place? And she's so, she was so clumsy. That's

1:10:12

one thing I know about her. Clumsiest bitch you'll

1:10:14

ever meet. I think it really is. So

1:10:18

no, I'm the Columbia's bitch you'll ever meet.

1:10:20

She's second. She's second. Okay, that's

1:10:22

fine. I'll be third. This

1:10:25

is the, like I said, so people have

1:10:27

seen a man by the fireplace

1:10:29

in pictures. They think he's one of the skeletons.

1:10:32

Or sometimes they've even seen a woman next

1:10:34

to the fireplace. They assume it's Madeline, could

1:10:36

be Elizabeth. Okay. Since it was

1:10:38

her living room. Okay. Oh, but okay.

1:10:42

So they, sorry, I know, I understand how

1:10:44

I caught up. So the, they

1:10:46

think that the spirit might be Elizabeth, but

1:10:48

not necessarily the body in the, they

1:10:51

don't think like that. They don't, they still, the

1:10:53

skeleton has only ever been deemed as Madeline. Whether

1:10:55

or not we know how true that story is.

1:10:58

Okay. Cause I was like, wait, did we just miss

1:11:00

the whole thing where they buried her in the fireplace? No,

1:11:02

I think it's because the, the tavern

1:11:04

area was once Elizabeth and her five

1:11:07

generations of families living room. So of course

1:11:09

she'd hang out in there by the fireplace. Yeah,

1:11:12

right. Okay. Makes sense.

1:11:14

Anyway, there's a woman, we don't know who it is, is

1:11:16

the TLDR. Just,

1:11:19

yeah. Another weird thing about the

1:11:21

fireplace though. Cause remember it didn't even work for

1:11:23

a while, which is why they did renovations and

1:11:25

there were skeletons in there. I remember. After

1:11:28

that, this, the fireplace still seems to be

1:11:30

out of commission. It like just always had

1:11:32

a problem and never really worked. And even

1:11:34

though it doesn't work, it

1:11:37

for some reason still emits heat as

1:11:39

if it's working. Okay.

1:11:42

That's so weird. And with the, with

1:11:44

the beds being hot to the touch,

1:11:46

like that's so odd. I'm

1:11:48

wondering if there was a fire at some point

1:11:50

that like never got recorded. Maybe.

1:11:53

Or maybe something happened on the property during the war.

1:11:56

Like maybe it's all the sun dried

1:11:58

bricks. just like

1:12:00

we're still hot baby still as hot as

1:12:02

the Sun cooking all that Sun alarms

1:12:05

go off nonstop in the building so police

1:12:08

are constantly being sent over a news

1:12:10

crew even tried to do an investigation

1:12:13

here and they said they saw flowing

1:12:15

shadows somebody got poked by unseen hands

1:12:17

and they watched the room temperature drop

1:12:19

on its own 220 degrees which feels

1:12:21

like the opposite of fire hmm

1:12:25

maybe back in the day I was

1:12:27

a top Kings Tavern maybe

1:12:30

it was like such a respite

1:12:32

for people because it was

1:12:34

warm and cozy and so it still holds

1:12:36

that like sort of more a rest stop

1:12:38

for you and your horse with on the your

1:12:41

horse your whore you and

1:12:43

your horse can stop here and have

1:12:45

some brandy and be warm and now

1:12:48

we can still feel the warmth I

1:12:50

don't know that seems like a stretch but you

1:12:52

know what anything could be real at this point

1:12:55

and anything could not be real at this point that's

1:12:57

probably true honestly um that's the deepest thing you've ever

1:12:59

said yeah yeah yeah yeah oh

1:13:01

by the way Christine oh my god I met

1:13:03

the most insufferable man why

1:13:07

don't you call me immediately just kidding we are always

1:13:10

meeting in several moment okay go on he

1:13:12

was I went to a I went

1:13:15

to a few bars in where did where

1:13:17

were we just in Providence yeah was it

1:13:19

it was either Providence or I think it was Providence

1:13:22

I went to a few bars by the

1:13:26

way if anyone wants to know my

1:13:28

favorite one was if you happen to

1:13:30

be around there it was Augie's trailer

1:13:32

park it was incredible I also went

1:13:34

to one called Dead Beats which is

1:13:36

apparently horror themed with love

1:13:41

zero out of ten really one

1:13:43

out of one out of ten

1:13:45

because they saw they served ecto

1:13:47

ecto cooler like the green Ghostbusters

1:13:49

high seed drink yeah I had their own

1:13:51

version of ecto cooler and they had like

1:13:53

slimer from the Ghostbusters sitting on so that

1:13:56

was the only cool thing everything else not

1:13:58

so great oh that good part

1:14:00

you're saying and the I was kind of feeling good

1:14:02

for I'm sorry that's a bummer I

1:14:04

really wanted it to be more than it was it was really just

1:14:06

like a dark dive bar

1:14:08

it was cool but it

1:14:11

was not what I wanted if you're gonna promote yourself

1:14:13

as a horror themed bar you got to really commit

1:14:15

commit you're right okay um Augie's

1:14:18

trailer park great but the one I want to

1:14:20

talk about is it was called

1:14:23

the Justine's and

1:14:25

it looks even when

1:14:27

it's open at night it looks like it's

1:14:29

closed it looks like a closed business on

1:14:31

the side of a street I'm already anxious

1:14:34

okay and it was it's a

1:14:36

lingerie store so when you look through the window

1:14:38

it looks like a closed lingerie with like the

1:14:40

old mannequin wearing something and

1:14:43

the door is just fucking open you just walk

1:14:45

in and like unlocked unlocked

1:14:47

and there's no people in there and it

1:14:50

just looks like one tiny little

1:14:52

room that sells lingerie and

1:14:55

you open the door but behind what looks

1:14:57

like the wall if you're looking in in the

1:14:59

window it looks like there's a black

1:15:01

wall it's actually a curtain you pull

1:15:03

back the curtain and it's like a

1:15:05

speakeasy oh boy there

1:15:08

might have been someone working there who was

1:15:10

just a little too much for me um

1:15:15

yeah the the vibes ex-létante

1:15:20

except except this one guy

1:15:22

was really like you could tell I think

1:15:24

he was like a philosophy or a cinema

1:15:26

major in college and I

1:15:28

think he thought everything he said was

1:15:31

moving oh no oh no

1:15:33

I felt trapped I was I can't get

1:15:36

away I just let it down

1:15:39

he was just saying things like like

1:15:41

he's a he was saying cuz he's

1:15:43

a bartender he was like we create

1:15:46

we inspire we we write the narrative for

1:15:48

the night and we all right yeah I'm

1:15:51

sure I'm sure that's a lovely take but

1:15:53

I came here alone for a reason I

1:16:00

didn't want to talk to anybody. So why are you

1:16:02

talking to me? Yeah And

1:16:04

it was it's one thing I guess

1:16:07

he like made small talk for a second But

1:16:09

he was very interested in not going away and

1:16:11

I was like I can't he was very

1:16:13

interested in not going away It

1:16:16

was so clear It

1:16:18

was so clear. I was like and

1:16:20

I was trapped. I was like, I was there's nothing I can do

1:16:22

I can't get out of here. I have to wait to pay my

1:16:25

tab and everything. Oh My

1:16:27

god, I Christ he just kept going and

1:16:29

he'd be like he'd be like so

1:16:32

what moves you today? What moves you

1:16:34

know, come on, but you know and

1:16:36

like the thing that sucks is

1:16:38

like self-fulfilling prophecy He clearly wanted

1:16:41

me to talk about him later and I am

1:16:43

so like I'm giving him what he wanted I

1:16:45

hate that but like, you know, he thought on

1:16:47

the ride home. I was just so

1:16:51

beside myself overwhelmed with how

1:16:53

Incredible his opinion was and I

1:16:56

he really understand who he was like

1:16:58

who is like telling this person You know,

1:17:00

it's like where did you get this idea?

1:17:03

I think he was like some he must have been

1:17:05

some sort of tortured artist who like just had Poetry

1:17:07

in his soul and didn't know how to get it

1:17:09

out And like he just had so much

1:17:11

to say and no one was willing to listen and I

1:17:13

was one of those people I

1:17:16

mean how when maybe maybe you were

1:17:19

the maybe you finally got the message

1:17:21

across I just know I was

1:17:23

not so hard. I was being too nice I

1:17:25

I could tell that he really just

1:17:27

wanted somebody to talk to you were trying to validate him

1:17:29

That's very thoughtful of you to be fair. I was

1:17:32

like, maybe this guy's just like really lonely. He's got

1:17:35

like big opinions He really wants to just like he

1:17:37

wants to Be

1:17:39

a part of somebody's nice like I get

1:17:41

it. That's lovely. But like man I just

1:17:43

wanted to sit here and play Sudoku while

1:17:45

I drink a mocktail like Like

1:17:48

that's all we that's all we want right like

1:17:50

all of us except I

1:17:53

think he saw the game on my phone as an invitation of like,

1:17:56

oh, well, you're not no no no Yeah, if

1:17:58

I'm playing a game on my phone is special Bingo,

1:18:00

it's timed like don't talk to me. My neighbor

1:18:02

said hi to me and I was walking to

1:18:04

you and I was like I'm sorry. I'm doing

1:18:06

something really important. I was literally looking for oh

1:18:08

70 like that's what I was doing But it

1:18:10

was so important. So I not

1:18:12

interrupt. It really was like that. It

1:18:14

was out of control Oh, anyway, how is

1:18:16

wrong with people? He meant very well I don't

1:18:19

mean to like poo-poo on him in a way

1:18:21

where like he was not a good person He

1:18:23

was just him and I were not meant to

1:18:25

be not compatible. I get it. I get it

1:18:28

Yeah, it was just he and somebody else who

1:18:30

really needs a pep talk are gonna get along

1:18:32

great But I wanted to be

1:18:34

left alone. Totally. You were pep enough. Yeah, I get

1:18:36

it. I do anyway, uh I

1:18:40

don't know how we got there, but I will this is

1:18:42

the last chunk of things I have to say is

1:18:44

that the Kings Tavern Obviously

1:18:46

very haunted. It has been featured on many

1:18:49

Those hunting shows. Uh-huh. I knew it. I

1:18:51

knew this was correct. I knew it.

1:18:53

I knew it It's colluding Little

1:18:56

something you're called adventures

1:18:59

do ghost And

1:19:06

so yes goes adventures starring

1:19:09

Zach bagel by his pagans and I

1:19:12

will tell you obviously I watched it so you

1:19:14

don't have to but I will say I know

1:19:16

we give him a lot of Shit, but sometimes

1:19:18

he's got those episodes that are really freaky. It

1:19:20

really is true Sometimes I genuinely get freaked out.

1:19:22

I mean I will be the first to admit

1:19:24

it like sometimes we're like Oh dear, this got

1:19:26

creepier than I expected and I I don't

1:19:29

have I don't have any evidence of this But

1:19:31

I feel like a lot of times on his

1:19:33

show it might be Cheated

1:19:37

in some way. What? but

1:19:39

there are some time done cuz But

1:19:43

there but there are times where like

1:19:45

you go to enough spooky places something spooky is

1:19:47

gonna happen You can kind of see like

1:19:49

oh jeez. This is like a real frightening

1:19:51

moment for them And this was a good

1:19:53

one if you're gonna watch an episode of

1:19:55

ghost adventures. This was a good one. That's great. I

1:19:58

honestly I'm gonna remember

1:20:00

that. I will say it

1:20:03

was weirdly dagger heavy Because

1:20:05

I guess Zach Bagans decided or and by

1:20:08

Zach Bagans I mean the producers or whatever

1:20:10

but he has a producer on the show. I mean,

1:20:12

so he yeah, I would argue He's probably the main producer. But

1:20:14

yeah, yeah A lot of times in

1:20:16

reality TV is like if you're wondering why people

1:20:18

are doing something It's not up to them

1:20:20

like the producer said this is what we've decided

1:20:22

is happening You have to do these beats in

1:20:25

the script, right? But since he's a

1:20:27

producer he got with that And

1:20:29

we know him enough to know like he

1:20:31

probably won't at least in the later seasons

1:20:33

I doubt he would do something that he's

1:20:35

like does not want to break and this

1:20:37

is an eight He was in his primetime

1:20:39

producing. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Gotcha

1:20:41

and I think he heard the story about

1:20:43

Madeline being stabbed with a dagger and a skeleton in a

1:20:45

dagger being found in the chimney and Fun

1:20:48

fact the dagger to this day is missing or

1:20:50

like is like someone thing It's

1:20:53

hard to come by I guess and

1:20:56

So he made this whole episode like at least

1:20:58

the first half like we were gonna find the dagger

1:21:01

Okay, like it's national treasure

1:21:04

if they find a dagger then we know it's not

1:21:06

this is fake cuz like yeah, right So

1:21:09

fun fact he ends up tracking down

1:21:11

someone who's a relative of the owner

1:21:13

of the dagger We

1:21:15

never see the dagger at best.

1:21:18

We get this relative who has

1:21:20

seen the dagger Giving a description

1:21:22

of it. That's the best. All right,

1:21:25

that story leads to nothing I just know

1:21:27

he wanted that fucking dagger for his museum,

1:21:29

right? Like is that what I know he

1:21:32

had a pocket full of thousands of dollars

1:21:34

ready to hand it over. I know you did

1:21:36

it Yeah Anyway,

1:21:39

so the first half of it you

1:21:42

can probably honestly just skip it was just

1:21:44

him on a quest for the dagger He

1:21:46

didn't find it. Oh But

1:21:50

I will say the ghost hunting part

1:21:52

fucking wild so okay, okay He

1:21:56

interviews other investigators that have already been

1:21:58

to the tavern and They warned

1:22:00

that something does weirdly attach to people.

1:22:02

They've been attached to it. They say,

1:22:05

this is where I thought the research

1:22:07

was interesting. One of

1:22:09

those investigators said that they got an

1:22:11

EVP of the name Mason

1:22:14

coming through, and Mason was one of their kids.

1:22:16

And so they were very freaked out by that.

1:22:18

But I will say, in my own research, Mason

1:22:20

was the name of one of the guys that hung

1:22:22

out with the Hart brothers. So

1:22:25

I don't know if like, I mean, it's creepy

1:22:27

either way, but I think he took it as

1:22:29

like a personal, oh, they're

1:22:31

threatening my kid, versus like maybe the Hart brothers

1:22:33

were just like naming somebody they knew. Okay,

1:22:35

okay, okay. So it's like a current

1:22:37

person, but it's also a historic, it

1:22:40

could be just referencing the real person. Yeah,

1:22:42

like Mason was one of the names

1:22:44

of somebody that they knew. Gotcha. Okay.

1:22:47

So I don't know if it was meant to be all that personal. It

1:22:49

could have been, I don't know. Anyway,

1:22:53

so immediately, Zach

1:22:56

begins. He goes in alone.

1:22:58

He asks who's killed there, and the spirit

1:23:00

box says Madeleine. Well,

1:23:02

that's a good start. It's a good start. Then

1:23:05

Nick says, were you murdered here? And

1:23:07

the spirit box gets a female voice

1:23:09

very clearly saying yes. Whoa! Sorry,

1:23:14

I felt like people wouldn't really get it until

1:23:16

I made the sound effects that I'm sure accompanied

1:23:18

that evidence. Well, super

1:23:20

creepy. I guess they had like a

1:23:22

bunch of duvetyne

1:23:26

or like some sort of sound canceling

1:23:29

light blocking fabric on the windows. Gotcha.

1:23:33

And weirdly, they

1:23:37

did get kind of it on camera. You

1:23:40

could see the reflection of it happening, but

1:23:42

the window covers were completely ripped off of

1:23:44

one of the windows, even though they were

1:23:46

all secured the same way. And the others

1:23:48

were like really stuck on there. It had

1:23:50

clearly been torn down, and you can hear

1:23:52

it and see it happening, and it's very

1:23:55

creepy. Ooh. Honestly, yes,

1:23:57

it could have just dropped, but it is weird

1:23:59

that the other. three windows were perfectly secure.

1:24:03

There are a lot of sounds in the basement.

1:24:05

There's clear EVPs of a baby's voice or like

1:24:07

a baby kind of like goo goo gaga. And

1:24:10

then you can hear a woman saying,

1:24:13

I can say your name. And

1:24:16

then you can hear one of the trick. And

1:24:19

then you hear a woman say, we'll

1:24:21

get you. Oh, okay, wait, what's that

1:24:23

line? I was trying to think of it the other

1:24:25

day, the what's the line that you started saying where

1:24:27

you were like, and for my next

1:24:29

trick, yeah, for my next trick, and for my final

1:24:32

act. And for my next trick, for my next trick,

1:24:34

I can say all your names. And for my next

1:24:36

final trick, I'm gonna get you. I

1:24:38

you know, what's so weird is I only say that alone. I think

1:24:40

even I know that's too far. I love

1:24:42

it. It's cute. Oh, good. Thank

1:24:44

you. I was making cereal,

1:24:46

making cereal, I was pouring myself a bowl

1:24:48

of cereal. And when I went for the

1:24:51

milk, I said out loud, Oh, for my

1:24:53

next act. So

1:24:55

ridiculous. For no reason to nobody just like, oh,

1:24:57

and for my for my final act, I'm gonna

1:24:59

get the milk. I love it, though. I'm really

1:25:02

about it. It gets me going. Tickles

1:25:05

the brain. So anyway, this is

1:25:07

where it gets super creepy. So the voices

1:25:09

have said we'll get you. Nick

1:25:12

starts acting so fucking weird. And like, not that

1:25:14

I know him personally, but you can tell something's

1:25:16

off like and of all the people I feel

1:25:18

like Nick's the least like he is

1:25:22

under Zach's thumb. You know, we don't, to

1:25:24

be fair, we don't know any more information

1:25:26

than the rest of the public. But there

1:25:28

was like some weird thing that happened a

1:25:30

few months ago. Expose that was about Zach

1:25:32

Beggins that kind of basically just elucidated

1:25:35

some traits of Zach's

1:25:37

that like we all kind of knew already.

1:25:39

But like, but Nick was like, I think

1:25:42

ready to say something fucking

1:25:45

significant about he released, he

1:25:47

released his statement, but it was like, yeah,

1:25:49

but it was just kind of like, kind

1:25:53

of it was like, Oh, yeah, that's shitty. But we

1:25:55

kind of sort of knew that I

1:25:57

guess now it's just confirmed, you know, like kick.

1:26:00

Nick off of his show and then said

1:26:02

like basically told the travel channel they

1:26:04

were never allowed to hire him again and

1:26:07

yeah this said like Zach was

1:26:09

like I am your whole

1:26:11

channel so like you can't like you can't

1:26:13

hire Nick for any other project so

1:26:16

that's kind of what the expose was and everyone was kind

1:26:18

of like well it's not surprising you

1:26:21

know like we're not shocked by this

1:26:23

information well yeah

1:26:25

but but because of that usually I in

1:26:27

my brain I feel like Nick mm-hmm

1:26:31

isn't as maybe willing to cheat the

1:26:34

system exactly he's the least under Zach's

1:26:36

kind of like command I think is what

1:26:39

I believe yeah that's what I think about

1:26:41

it but he starts acting really fucking great

1:26:43

on camera he's acting like there's something attached

1:26:45

to him like he's staring at something that

1:26:47

isn't there he's backing up into a

1:26:49

wall like something's coming at him he starts

1:26:52

wandering off when they tell him like

1:26:54

hey sit still he's like it's

1:26:57

like he's not there and he'll just

1:26:59

stand up and walk away of

1:27:02

course this is the moment where Zach says and

1:27:04

I quote I want Nick to do

1:27:06

another spirit box session so that way we can see

1:27:08

how much deeper this possible attachment can go with him

1:27:10

of course he's so fucked

1:27:12

yeah no wonder this guy like wrote

1:27:14

an expose Jesus so Nick

1:27:17

starts acting even weirder like he's

1:27:20

deep I thought this was a mild

1:27:22

possession and now I feel like I've

1:27:24

been misled it's

1:27:27

I mean it goes he ends up being

1:27:29

fine right at the time it

1:27:31

was if this happened to you I would have we

1:27:34

would not be there anymore okay got

1:27:36

it good to know so maybe my

1:27:38

maybe not mild but medium heat if

1:27:40

you know what I'm saying okay yeah yeah I

1:27:42

got you if this happened to you I would grab

1:27:45

you by the cuff and I would I drag you out

1:27:47

by the fucking ankle I'd be like we're getting out of

1:27:49

here I feel like cut it out we're leaving yeah I'd

1:27:51

be like you can say I'm fucking

1:27:53

gone like you're not we're out

1:27:55

I'm out of here do you want to ride back to

1:27:57

the hotel or not No,

1:28:00

I'm gonna even go already in the car. It's all

1:28:02

warmed up. It's getting toasty in there Oh, she's she's

1:28:05

got her foot ready pedal to the metal Christine.

1:28:07

Yep the fuck in the car. I'll see you

1:28:09

later If you

1:28:12

said no, I'm good. That's how I know it's

1:28:14

time to actually grab you by the fucking collar I'm

1:28:16

be like, yeah, we have to leave now. We're so

1:28:22

Nick starts acting even weirder. He's like walking

1:28:24

weirdly in like slow motion Wow

1:28:28

It's it feels like he's walking around

1:28:31

like he has not actually been in

1:28:33

a body recently and Okay,

1:28:36

that's the creepiest thing you could have said but

1:28:38

great Erin

1:28:40

start Erin is upstairs by himself

1:28:43

and he uses the ovulus and the

1:28:45

ovulus says out loud travel outside

1:28:49

Which like sounds like take a fucking walk get

1:28:51

out of here take a baby, baby Says

1:28:54

travel outside Nick who

1:28:56

was told by Zach to like not leave his

1:28:58

room and to not get up or anything leave

1:29:01

your room He stands

1:29:03

up and wanders off by

1:29:05

himself and finds Aaron upstairs.

1:29:07

He's like slowly hobbling towards Erin

1:29:11

As Aaron gets this travel

1:29:14

outside stop Nick

1:29:17

that did not hear the ovulus, but as

1:29:19

he walks in he says you need to

1:29:21

leave the room I

1:29:24

don't like that. Usually those kind of things don't

1:29:26

get me some like other just faking it But

1:29:28

somehow this is really creepy even though they play

1:29:30

multiple cameras at the same time to show that

1:29:32

like Nick was not So he couldn't hear it

1:29:35

at all. He didn't hear it. He would and

1:29:37

he comes in he goes you need

1:29:39

to leave the room and as Aaron

1:29:42

starts walking he freaks out like freaks

1:29:44

out like something grabbed him and you

1:29:46

hear Nick laughing off camera and at

1:29:49

the same time Their recorders later got

1:29:51

an EVP of other laughter. So it's

1:29:53

almost like two Two

1:29:55

laughter is at the exact same time. I

1:29:58

don't like that which then

1:30:00

I'm like, is it a laughter? Is it

1:30:03

front? Was it the same thing?

1:30:05

Laughing in two bodies? Right? Is

1:30:07

it Nick Nick's possessor? Yeah, laughing?

1:30:10

Yeah. Or is it like a different spirit?

1:30:12

Yeah, good question. So he freaks out like

1:30:14

something grabbed him, you hear two sets of

1:30:16

laughter. And Aaron says something, just grabbed my

1:30:18

back. And Nick from the other side of

1:30:21

the room says, I know

1:30:23

that's why I came to get you because they're

1:30:25

about to attack you. But I think

1:30:28

it's hilarious. So and then

1:30:31

he but like, he's obviously talking like in a

1:30:33

trance. And like, for him to even have no

1:30:35

like he laughed as if like, ha ha, like,

1:30:37

that's what I saw coming. Then

1:30:39

he says to Aaron, I'm telling you, they were coming

1:30:41

to get you. I just want to give you a

1:30:44

warning. So like part of him is like, I want

1:30:46

to warn you, but part of me. It's like,

1:30:49

it's like he's sharing two minds in

1:30:51

the same body. And yeah, trying to warn him. But

1:30:53

this thing is like, I know what's coming. He's

1:30:56

like, watch this, it'll be hilarious. So

1:30:58

Nick, then just like immediately goes to

1:31:00

like a full trance and walks down

1:31:03

towards Zach doesn't even say

1:31:05

anything to him walks completely past him, even

1:31:07

though the spirit box is going off. And

1:31:09

usually Nick would react to that. Nick just

1:31:11

walks right past him, unbothered walks to the

1:31:14

bathroom and stares into the mirror until somebody

1:31:16

dragged him out. Just stared in

1:31:18

the mirror. And the

1:31:20

mirror where people see them. Yeah. Billy

1:31:24

then goes in Nick's place like they say like Nick,

1:31:26

you got to get out of there. Billy's going in

1:31:29

for you. Immediately Billy starts

1:31:31

acting the exact same way. Immediately.

1:31:33

Oh, shit. Not responding to

1:31:35

people wandering in slow motion. He's starting

1:31:37

to think is like, he's

1:31:40

leaking with them. Oh, totally fucking

1:31:42

them. He sits on the stairs and starts

1:31:44

humming. At the same time that weird noises

1:31:46

start happening upstairs. And then he gets heart

1:31:48

palpitations. His eyes start watering. His hands go

1:31:50

numb and he loses track of time and

1:31:52

doesn't even remember being near the stairs. And

1:31:56

I don't like that. I like this is when I'm like,

1:31:58

I don't think I want to visit. like this. As

1:32:02

they left, because eventually they end

1:32:04

up obviously leaving and everyone's fine

1:32:06

later, but as they left, apparently

1:32:08

they drove past a house completely

1:32:10

on fire and

1:32:12

then hundreds of crows gathered in

1:32:14

the road and refused to let

1:32:16

them drive any further. What the

1:32:18

fuck? And Nick got

1:32:21

a really weird text from

1:32:23

a random number and it had

1:32:25

a bunch of random words in the text that

1:32:27

sounded all jarbled, like didn't make sense, but one

1:32:29

of the words was Madeline. No. Okay,

1:32:32

I'm watching this later. I don't give a

1:32:34

shit. What a season and episode is it?

1:32:37

It's season eight. Uh, and

1:32:39

I don't know what the episode is because every single

1:32:41

time it turns into, I feel

1:32:44

like every platform has a different number.

1:32:46

Yeah. So King's Tavern though. It's called.

1:32:48

Yeah. Okay. Anyway. And

1:32:50

that was King's Tavern. That was

1:32:52

a doozy. Cause you

1:32:55

can't usually make me like give

1:32:58

me goose Kim with just a retelling of

1:33:01

ghost adventures, but I think you did. And that's pretty

1:33:03

impressive. I recommend that episode. And of course I watched

1:33:05

it at three in the morning. So I was like,

1:33:07

Oh God damn it. But that was a

1:33:10

wait. That's maybe that's the pattern you woke up

1:33:12

saying it's going to be a good day. Uh,

1:33:16

oh, I was like, anything's going to be better than that.

1:33:18

Maybe that's it. Maybe you set the bar real low. I

1:33:21

do wonder, Christine, if we ever go

1:33:23

ghost hunting, we have to have like

1:33:25

a code word or something about like,

1:33:27

if something happens like that's the one of

1:33:29

us or Eva, what do we do? What

1:33:32

do you mean? Like a, like a possession?

1:33:34

Yeah. Like if one of us gets

1:33:36

attached and starts acting weird and like muttering

1:33:38

and humming and who should have the code

1:33:41

word then like the person who's possessed be

1:33:43

like, this isn't me or like the, like,

1:33:45

maybe we say, maybe we have a code word and like,

1:33:48

I'll ask if like, like, let's say you're the possessed

1:33:51

one. I'll be like, are you

1:33:53

okay? Are you there? What's the

1:33:55

code word? Oh, and if I don't

1:33:57

know it, yeah. But then maybe like,

1:33:59

what if they're already I mean they're inside your body maybe

1:34:01

they do know the code word maybe

1:34:03

I hit it really far into my brain good

1:34:05

luck finding it yeah

1:34:08

I don't know I do wonder if I mean

1:34:10

with our ghost hunting if we ever come into something like

1:34:12

that I just know

1:34:14

my dumbass would be like should I forget the code

1:34:16

word and you're gonna be like she's possessed I'm like no

1:34:18

I literally just forgot the code word can I check I

1:34:20

really I really do think if we

1:34:22

ever go to a place that suggests that that could

1:34:24

happen we just bring I'm not kidding really a spray

1:34:26

bottle of holy water and just like like a cat

1:34:29

doing something wrong just to press each other in the

1:34:31

face wake up wake

1:34:33

up and then we can spray it around

1:34:35

if we see think there's a ghost and maybe

1:34:37

reveal them like Scooby-Doo style you know oh yeah

1:34:39

and then all of a sudden their body will

1:34:42

form like Madeline their footprints yeah exactly okay

1:34:44

perfect so I'll make what's the password is

1:34:46

it postal postal late or is it it

1:34:48

cannot possibly be post no I'm never gonna

1:34:50

remember that what's a good one what if

1:34:52

one from this episode that will oh what

1:34:54

about corny Sean well

1:34:56

I feel like hmm what

1:35:00

about double on tauntless I

1:35:03

can't say that yeah that's a

1:35:05

hard one yeah what about do we

1:35:07

say anything else today no

1:35:11

Sun dried tomatoes Sun dried tomatoes there you

1:35:13

go okay you said

1:35:16

postal service like the band we're not that

1:35:18

and not gonna remember that one but

1:35:22

good shout out though good

1:35:25

band it's a good band okay Sun

1:35:30

dried tomatoes is the password Sun dried

1:35:32

tomatoes do it I'm

1:35:35

gonna tell you a story today

1:35:38

this is the tragic murder of

1:35:40

Seth Jackson okay and the name

1:35:42

Seth in this case is spelled

1:35:44

S-E-A-T-H but it is pronounced like

1:35:47

Seth so

1:35:50

his name is Seth Tyler Jackson he was

1:35:52

born and raised in Florida and as far

1:35:54

as we know he was a very kind-hearted

1:35:56

child who loved animals

1:35:59

loved making people love laugh and one

1:36:01

day dreamed of competing in the

1:36:03

ultimate fighting championship UFC as a

1:36:06

mixed martial artist. His

1:36:08

parents, Sonia and Scott raised him in

1:36:11

a town called Summerfield alongside his two

1:36:13

older brothers, Scott Jr. and Steven. No,

1:36:16

this takes place in 2011. And

1:36:19

Summerfield was usually a quiet

1:36:21

rural area surrounded by farmland

1:36:23

with a nearby retirement community.

1:36:27

And although crime rates in general

1:36:29

were low, there were definitely some drug

1:36:31

issues in town and there were occasionally

1:36:33

some murders. So not like

1:36:36

a super tranquil, tranquil, peaceful small

1:36:38

town. There were definitely

1:36:40

some, some bigger issues. So when

1:36:43

he was 15, Seth still ran with

1:36:46

his childhood friend group from the area.

1:36:48

He had quite a few good friends.

1:36:50

He was pretty popular. His

1:36:52

family was really close. And he spent a

1:36:55

lot of time four wheeling, which I

1:36:57

imagine is what you do in rural Florida

1:36:59

and in rural North America. I

1:37:01

sure did. Even though

1:37:03

I'm a, I'm a German gal, I'm also an

1:37:06

Ohio gal, you know, so had my had plenty

1:37:08

of four wheeling days. Yeah. Do you ever go

1:37:10

mutting? I did. Only

1:37:13

like twice though, because I was like, this is,

1:37:15

I don't think this is for me. I liked

1:37:17

it in practice, but I was like, whoo, this

1:37:20

is dangerous. That's it.

1:37:22

It's kind of like, cool. I did it a couple of

1:37:24

times. I think that's enough. I think I'm, I think I'm

1:37:26

done. In, in

1:37:28

college, I hung out with a

1:37:30

few like stereotypical redneck guys. And

1:37:33

they loved mudding. And they

1:37:35

loved doing pretty much whatever,

1:37:39

whatever could get you closest to death. And I was

1:37:41

like, okay, yeah, I think I'm out. I

1:37:43

think I'm out. Yeah. At a certain point, it's

1:37:45

like, this is not recreational. This is just

1:37:48

defying death. Hopefully.

1:37:52

So that's kind of what he did. He had that kind of

1:37:55

redneck upbringing. One of his friends was 15

1:37:58

year old Amber Wright, and she. It

1:38:00

was a girl that Seth had actually began

1:38:02

dating on and off in 2011 and

1:38:05

when I say on and off, I mean they were Incredibly

1:38:08

toxic like everybody who knew this

1:38:10

couple was like they were a

1:38:13

mess. It was like one of those cliche

1:38:15

like Toxic, but you

1:38:18

can't get away from each other type thing.

1:38:20

Oh you and I know that too. Well, don't we unfortunately?

1:38:24

Since you and I are that way together. No The

1:38:28

two were not good for each

1:38:30

other. Okay, that's like understatement of the century

1:38:34

Wildly a lot of the posts. So

1:38:36

this is 2011. So Facebook is huge

1:38:38

and a Lot

1:38:40

of the posts they would so they'd publicly

1:38:42

argue on each other's Facebook walls. I

1:38:45

love it So I mean, so bad. It's so

1:38:47

bad. I see That it

1:38:49

was so messy like one of the youtubers. I

1:38:51

watched who covered this Posted

1:38:54

like some screen grabs of like some of

1:38:56

the comments and I'll be honest Like

1:38:58

some of it was like really upsetting like I thought

1:39:00

oh, this is gonna be like kind of drama Yeah

1:39:03

But then I thought which like also nobody

1:39:05

else seemed to mention and I'm like did

1:39:07

people just kind of brush this under the

1:39:09

Sweet this under the rug maybe But

1:39:12

there were posts that he was writing

1:39:14

about like saying the n-word and saying

1:39:16

like people need to go back like

1:39:19

some really Extremely racist shit.

1:39:21

I was like, oh god stuff. I'm not even

1:39:23

gonna pretend to repeat here and

1:39:26

I was like and but but that was kind of lower

1:39:30

down like in the screen grab and like they

1:39:32

were focusing on the top part of and I

1:39:34

was like Does anyone see that comment

1:39:36

like that? What nobody's gonna mention that

1:39:39

it was like really bad So,

1:39:42

oh by the way, the channel I watched

1:39:44

was beyond evil. He did a really good Good

1:39:47

coverage of this case But yeah

1:39:49

So they were posting on each other's walls like

1:39:51

arguing bickering name calling you was calling her a

1:39:54

slut and she was saying like You know, I

1:39:56

mean it just was like real and that was

1:39:58

like the least of it. It was very

1:40:00

extreme. They were accusing each

1:40:03

other of cheating and all this nonsense. So

1:40:06

Seth's parents, for obvious reasons, did not

1:40:08

like him seeing Amber because both of

1:40:10

them were not having a good time.

1:40:12

So yeah, it

1:40:14

was just like this isn't good for either of you. So

1:40:18

it was probably a bit of a relief when

1:40:20

they seemed to finally break it off for good

1:40:22

and Amber got a

1:40:24

new boyfriend. His name was

1:40:26

Mike Bargo. He was 18 and

1:40:30

even though she had found a new guy, Seth

1:40:33

was still kind of in the periphery.

1:40:36

Like she wanted to kind of keep the

1:40:38

drama going, right? Like she she

1:40:42

wouldn't just let it die out. Like they

1:40:44

were continuing to fight on Facebook and now she

1:40:46

had this new boyfriend and he was heartbroken

1:40:48

and it just got even messier than it

1:40:50

was before. So

1:40:53

Amber began telling Mike, her new

1:40:55

boyfriend about Seth saying he physically

1:40:57

and emotionally abused her. According

1:41:00

to people who knew Seth, knew their

1:41:02

relationship very well, these were just lies.

1:41:07

She was kind of whether

1:41:09

they were like okay, most people

1:41:12

claim these are lies. So I can't say one way or

1:41:14

another, right? But basically

1:41:17

it became pretty clear that she was just trying

1:41:19

to rile her boyfriend up, her current boyfriend

1:41:21

up about Seth and like, oh

1:41:24

wow, messy messy messy messy

1:41:26

messy messy. She's trying to go

1:41:28

to stoke the fire there and

1:41:30

that's what she did. According to those who

1:41:32

knew and loved Seth, he never would have

1:41:34

played a hand on her physically or emotionally.

1:41:36

Although some of these wall

1:41:38

posts I was like, that's pretty

1:41:41

damn it. It feels damning whether

1:41:43

or not yeah, it doesn't help.

1:41:45

Yeah. Yeah. It feels like both

1:41:47

of them were really toxic with one another. So

1:41:50

I don't know where that line was. But

1:41:52

either way, Amber seemed to sort of enjoy

1:41:55

pitting Seth and Mike against each other like

1:41:57

her ex-boyfriend and her new boy. Ensure

1:42:00

the next up on the jealousy she's

1:42:02

like yeah yeah yeah Clear that her.

1:42:04

Gray rights to the It's Like Fighting. Over

1:42:06

her. Exactly. So. Soon

1:42:09