Richard Rohr, in conversation with Paul Swanson and Brie Stoner, continues the journey through the 7 Themes of the Alternative Orthodoxy. The fifth theme of the Alternative Orthodoxy opens the door to everyone:  The “separate self” is the major problem, not the shadow self which only takes deeper forms of disguise. There is a subtleness to this theme that takes some sussing out. Join us as we share personal stories that exemplify our wrestling with this theme, distinguish between the ‘shadow self’ and the ‘separate self’, look at the ways that shame snakes its way into our lives, and ultimately how the connection to the whole entices personhood. The transcript for this episode can be found here.Visit cac.org/podcast to listen to the first 3 seasons of Another Name for Every Thing   Visit universalchrist.org to learn more about the core themes of Richard’s book, The Universal Christ: How a Forgotten Reality Can Change Everything We See, Hope For, and Believe