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well-being as a human family.
2:02
Many of our listeners
2:04
are feeling completely fried
2:07
right now. Yeah.
2:09
And no surprise, right?
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It's just been a really interesting
2:14
ride these last couple of years. What
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I'd like to do is begin by having
2:18
a conversation about how
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we can comfort our nervous
2:23
systems. That is the pivotal
2:25
question, isn't it? And
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one so many of us are asking ourselves,
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and I think many among
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us already went
2:35
into the pandemic
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taxed by this
2:41
culture of stress and toxic
2:44
overdoing and proving
2:46
and striving and comparing
2:49
and competing. And then
2:52
we went into,
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it's been now, we're going on the third
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year of uncertainty and
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loss and
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grief and fear that's
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gone hand-in-hand with the
3:08
pandemic. And
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so the cumulative impact
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on our mind-body system
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has been debilitating
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for many. So
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finding a way towards
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soothing our nervous system is really
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critical,
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is key. And
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it comes back to practices
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that
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are going to
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support the parasympathetic nervous
3:36
system, that calming response in the body,
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decreasing our fight-or-flight. So
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I'm
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happy to unpack some of those.
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The goal here is to help as many
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as we can self-heal
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and consciously
3:51
create a life they love so that even
3:53
when things are tough, when things
3:55
are pulling at us in so
3:58
many different directions, we still
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know how to soothe ourselves
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and how to get to that balance point that
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allows for so much more than
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the pain and suffering. I think
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that the best starting point and
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one of the most potent healing
4:15
mechanisms that we have is our breath
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and we take 20,000 breaths a day
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and that's 20,000 invitations to soothe ourselves.
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So just taking a pause
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and coming home to the sensation
4:33
of our breath, taking a low and slow
4:35
breath and extending the exhale
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leads to a cascade of
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neurochemicals being released from
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our brain system calming
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neurochemicals sending
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the message to our body
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that we're safe. So
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and it's so simple and it's free
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and it's available to us anywhere and anytime.
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When I talk with people who
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are really struggling with anxiety, breath
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work is key to soothing.
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Yes, yes we often recognize
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that and
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share the long exhale which is what I think
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you're talking about. Mm-hmm
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the long exhale
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four four six two breathing so
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breathing in for four holding for four
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exhaling for six holding for
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two
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vu
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breathing or vu chanting is
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extraordinary for toning
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the vagal nerve which
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is that nerve
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system that connects body and
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mind.
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Let's do that.
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Vu chanting? Yeah. Beautiful.
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Okay so I like to place
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a hand on the heart and a hand at the belly
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whatever
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is comfortable and
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just taking
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a moment where you are.
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Closing the eyes if
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that works for you, if not just
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resting the gaze lightly in front of you.
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Really taking a moment to
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settle into the body. And
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when you're ready, taking a low and
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slow breath in. And
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at the exhale, a long,
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low voo sound.
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Voo. Feeling
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the vibration through the body, another inhale.
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And again.
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Voo. Inhale. Inhale. Sending
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that vibration all the way down
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into the lower area of the
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body.
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Voo.
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Wow.
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I can see how doing that for several
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rounds of your breath could really bring
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you into a sweet spot.
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The vibration tones that
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vagal nerve system and sends
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a healing, soothing
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current throughout
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your whole body.
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Releasing,
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relaxing neurochemicals, and
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really rooting you in the body. Really
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takes us out of the body. And
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that voo technique allows
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us to kind of break up and metabolize
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the density of
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all that we're carrying. And
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what was cool about it too is even though I wasn't
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making the sound because I didn't want to
7:54
confuse the recording, I just wanted to hear
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your voice, I was still
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getting
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the benefit of that.
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it from
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what you were doing.
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Just being a part of it and being involved
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in it. I love it.
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Beautiful. Well, we match,
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right? We co-create our
8:10
lived experience. And so
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when you're with someone
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who is calming
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their limbic system, then
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you benefit from that
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yourself.
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And it's fun too. You
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know, you can lighten up a little bit and be like, yeah,
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I'm doing some voo chanting right now.
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And that
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leads right into this next
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question that I have is, what do you
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recommend that
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we do to better
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empower ourselves during this wild
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ride on planet Earth and to
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lighten up a little bit so that we can
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feel that
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we're standing in our power a bit more than
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we might feel we
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are right now?
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I think that one of the
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things most of us are struggling with are
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really the basics, the foundational
9:03
elements of our wellbeing.
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And so many people that I speak with
9:07
now are struggling with
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sleep disorders, sleep disruption,
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turning to substances.
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And oftentimes that means an
9:17
increase in alcohol intake
9:20
or caffeine or sugar. And so
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one of the places that I start is really
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just doing an audit of what are
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my habits? What are the maladaptive
9:29
coping mechanisms that I'm leaning into?
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And where can I start
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to shift my daily
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practices so that I'm
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supporting myself better? Just
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starting where you are. And
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if you're able to mini minimize
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stimulants like sugar and
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caffeine and alcohol, that's
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a beautiful way to support your body
9:54
right now. If you're able to
9:57
focus on your sleep
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hygiene. and put technology
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away a little bit earlier in the day
10:05
and practice soothing
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tools like meditation and
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imagery or
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a little bit of gentle movement in yoga
10:14
before you go to bed, that may
10:17
be the place to start for you. And
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so the answer is different for everybody.
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And your solution to
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supporting
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your highest well-being is as unique
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as you are.
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But if we just simply take a pause
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and ask ourselves,
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what do I most need in
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this moment? The
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answer has come because
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we have an inner wisdom and inner
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knowing that is so vast.
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It just takes two wings,
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awareness and compassion.
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Oh, I love that so much.
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One of my practices during the winter
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months is hot salt baths
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on special nights, oil massage
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before the
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hot salt bath and just being
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extra sweet to my body
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and thanking her for being so
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strong and flexible
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and
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willing to put up with many of my shenanigans,
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forming a
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just a sweeter relationship, I guess, with
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my body. And it's made such a big difference.
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Just recently, I
11:27
decided that I didn't need
11:29
to have coffee anymore. And I
11:31
wasn't a big coffee drinker, Michelle,
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but I would start the day with a cup
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of coffee. And I started messing around
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it, you
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know, make healthier creamers, like
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do these things so I wasn't having sugar
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in my coffee. And I just finally was like, just
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enough. My body doesn't want coffee anymore.
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I've switched berries easily over
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to some wonderful black
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tea to
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make a change. I still get a little bit of caffeine.
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I'm enjoying the taste. I know it's better
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for my body and
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I'm already a tea drinker. Anyway,
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I just normally don't drink black tea.
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I thought, well, that's a nice way to shift. I
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bring it up because it's just a little
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shift.
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That's another sweet
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choice that I'm making for myself.
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They all add up.
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They all add up. It's these sort of micro
12:22
moments that really create
12:24
the building blocks of our life. And so
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there was an inner question that you asked
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that was so, important.
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Does this serve me? And
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when you ask that question, the answer
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emerged so beautifully and it
12:39
didn't align with your intention towards
12:44
developing that sweet relationship
12:47
with your body that you're, that
12:49
you're talking about. Yeah. And the more
12:51
we listen,
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the more the floodgates open with new
12:56
information and
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it's okay to leave if
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it's, if it's not, and I want to say this, it's
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really important because
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sometimes we can
13:06
listen and listen and listen to be like, but
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I'm not hearing anything. You know, nothing's coming
13:10
up for me. What's going on? I'm really
13:13
trying to be mindful. It just takes
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practice.
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And often it is just, it's
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just a whisper. It's just that feather
13:21
touch that if we, that
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if we pay attention to that, it's one
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little change. It's the tea, it's the massage,
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it's the putting the screens down
13:30
a little bit earlier. It's please
13:34
giving yourself a break from the media
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and all forms,
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all of these choices that we can make
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to empower ourselves and to feel that much
13:43
stronger because
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we are listening to ourselves and
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we're not letting
13:49
anyone else live
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in our heads. If we're taking a break
13:53
from all of this,
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what could be
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described as media. or
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the duality
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that we're seeing so in our face.
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When we get still enough long enough,
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we begin to really hear our own
14:10
inner voice. And there is a lot
14:13
of noise interfering with our
14:15
ability to hear
14:18
the true South. And
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when we turn inward,
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you know, do that kind of work
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or create openings to really listen
14:27
in. If we're not hearing,
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you know, as you say, the
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answer, that guiding voice, that's great
14:36
information too.
14:37
Just to take a moment to acknowledge
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that, okay, it's feeling fuzzy right
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now.
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I'm feeling confused. I'm feeling
14:45
a lack of ability to
14:47
really hear myself,
14:49
to compassionately open
14:52
and accept that state is
14:56
such a kind
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and friendly act. Because
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so often we believe that our
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growth should
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look a certain way.
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So often we're in the not
15:11
knowing. So to forgive
15:13
ourselves and to be kind to ourselves while
15:16
we're in the not knowing
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is so important.
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One thing I know for sure with all
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of the women I've worked with over the years, and
15:26
with all of the
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people who are a part of the anxiety slayer
15:30
community and the sacred life,
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we're just so freaking hard
15:34
on ourselves. It's just
15:37
the beatings will continue until morale
15:39
improves type behavior.
15:41
We deserve
15:43
better. And these practices,
15:46
whether it be chanting or breathing or
15:48
meditating or yoga or getting
15:50
out in nature or doing that one sweet
15:53
thing before your bath or in the bath, et
15:55
cetera, gets you much closer
15:58
to that.
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Oh.
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I can be compassionately
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aware. I can be kind.
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I don't have to be impatient with myself.
16:07
I can exhale.
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I think that self-compassion is something
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that almost everyone
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struggles with. And
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it's such an expression of
16:22
our cultural system that
16:24
focuses on the external,
16:27
that tells us that we need
16:28
to be more, do more, add
16:31
more.
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When we hit that realization
16:35
of, okay, wow,
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I can just be still. I can just be
16:41
in the truth of who I am right now. And
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I am already whole. I was born
16:46
whole. Nothing
16:47
that anyone tells me or
16:50
nothing
16:52
that happens to me is going to change that.
16:54
That is
16:57
a powerful opening. On
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your website,
17:01
you have a paragraph that I was really
17:03
moved by that says,
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we want less chaos and more
17:07
tenderness.
17:08
We yearn for a more compassionate relationship
17:11
with ourselves, our partners,
17:13
and especially our children. But
17:15
in the pressure to be all things, to
17:17
all people, our endurance and strength
17:20
is slowly depleted. At times
17:22
we feel devoured by the unconscious
17:25
expectations coming at us at
17:27
every turn.
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That
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just encapsulates what so many
17:33
of us
17:35
are feeling and why it's so incredibly
17:37
important
17:39
to read a book like When Women Rise,
17:42
to listen to
17:44
your meditations, to
17:46
show up for the podcasts and
17:49
the choices that support us, and to also
17:51
just
17:53
let it all be.
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Get on the floor and rest in Shavasana
17:57
for a while.
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hardest thing to do. Yesterday
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when I was practicing, I
18:04
was laying down and I
18:07
was in that really, that really
18:09
monkey mind space of, oh, you
18:11
know, this is good that you're doing this.
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But really, what you need to be, and
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I just started to laugh at myself and sink in
18:19
a little bit
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deeper. And my practice didn't last
18:22
as long, but
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it did happen. And I laughed about
18:26
it and we'll return again,
18:29
as we do without
18:31
that judgment and shame and
18:34
all of that. But knowing that, Hey, you know what?
18:36
Resting in Shavasana for 10 minutes
18:39
and doing a gentle yoga practice.
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That's a good day.
18:44
And that's you showing up for yourself. Yeah.
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In such a beautiful way for
18:49
all of it in our practices meant to show
18:51
us what's there. And if that's monkey mind,
18:54
you want to see that you won't, you know,
18:57
that's the gateway
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to be able to just observe
19:02
what's happening in the moment, knowing
19:05
that
19:07
that state
19:09
has a beginning and a middle and an
19:11
end. And as you observe it and compassionately
19:14
and just bear witness to your felt
19:17
experience with non-judgment,
19:19
not wishing it away, not
19:22
grasping onto pleasant experiences
19:25
or pushing away negative experiences, we see
19:27
that it's just all part
19:30
of the sea of our experience. And
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so for that moment, it was discomfort.
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Okay.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. I love being able to just be like,
19:42
Oh,
19:43
the awareness of the awareness, right? Just
19:46
like, Oh, isn't that interesting? Well,
19:48
let's see. Let's see what we can do.
19:51
And that's such an awakening, that moment of
19:53
realization that you can see, Oh, okay,
19:56
wait a minute. It's not also solid.
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Those thoughts are
20:01
a part of my experiences, but they are
20:03
not me.
20:05
I am the observer. I
20:07
am the big S self
20:09
observing those
20:11
thought forms. And so maybe
20:14
I don't have to take it quite so seriously.
20:16
Maybe I don't have to add
20:19
more to the story. I mean,
20:21
for a broad call that, you know, the second
20:23
arrow, the first arrow is the
20:25
pain of the experience. The second arrow
20:28
is the way that we judge ourselves for it or
20:30
add more to the story. Yes.
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Yes, yes, yes.
20:34
One of the things that I would love to
20:36
invite you to do if you're available
20:39
for it is to walk us
20:41
through your return to
20:43
calm meditation that is inspired
20:45
by the autogenic training that you
20:48
share in your book. Oh,
20:50
yes. Let's do it. Let's
20:53
let's enter into practice together.
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Just allowing the eyelids
21:04
to gently close
21:06
and the body to become still
21:08
and
21:08
bringing your
21:10
attention to the rhythm of the breath as
21:13
you breathe through the nose, if that's
21:15
available to you.
21:19
You might imagine letting the breath
21:22
trace the path of a rolling
21:25
hill rising
21:28
on the in-breath and
21:31
falling on the out-breath.
21:38
And gently slowing the breath,
21:46
rising for the count
21:48
of one, two, three,
21:53
four, five, and
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falling.
21:58
Five, four. Letting
22:12
the breath restore
22:14
you to the peace of this moment.
22:20
You might whisper inwardly,
22:25
I am here and
22:28
I am calm.
22:36
Letting the body feel the earth cradling
22:39
it with unwavering
22:40
care as you release
22:43
the hold of the day.
22:49
And may you find yourself in
22:51
a moment of rest. Noticing
23:00
now the sensations at the arms.
23:02
Arms
23:07
heavy. The left arm is heavy. The
23:16
right arm is heavy. Both
23:22
arms are heavy.
23:29
Repeating these words
23:31
inwardly.
23:34
I am here and
23:38
I am calm.
23:47
Bringing
23:48
full attention now to the legs.
23:54
Noticing the sensations
23:57
there.
24:03
And the legs too begin to find
24:05
stillness. Legs
24:11
are heavy. And
24:16
the left leg is heavy. The
24:20
right leg is heavy. Both
24:26
of the legs are heavy. And
24:34
repeating these words again, I
24:40
am here and
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I am calm.
24:53
Let the mind dream
24:55
of sun and
24:57
sand in
25:00
the healing wound running
25:04
its current through your time. And
25:10
the heart
25:10
tracing a path
25:12
to the hands, blowing
25:15
life
25:17
like a wise woman's breath
25:20
on frosty finger.
25:27
And notice the sensations
25:29
at the hands.
25:35
The hands are warm.
25:39
The left hand is warm. The
25:44
right hand is warm. Both
25:49
hands are warm.
25:54
Repeating these words,
25:58
I am here.
26:00
And I am calm.
26:07
With each inhale and exhale,
26:09
you're soothed and restored
26:13
and warmed to your bone.
26:18
Like campfire sticks,
26:20
the wise woman rubs her
26:22
hands together and places
26:25
them
26:25
against your icy feet. Her
26:31
body keeps your. Bringing
26:38
attention to the feet
26:39
and noticing any
26:42
sensations there.
26:46
Anything that is there to be
26:48
found. Feet
26:53
are warm. The
26:57
left foot is warm.
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The right foot is warm.
27:04
Both feet are warm.
27:09
Repeating these words,
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I am here.
27:14
And I am calm. The
27:22
abdomen rises
27:25
and falls. It swells
27:27
and recedes. Soothed
27:31
in the intimacy
27:35
of this time.
27:39
The forehead cools.
27:43
And the mind sees.
27:48
You might place the hand at the heart
27:50
center. Heart
27:54
beats steady.
27:57
Body warm and heavy.
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Repeating these words,
28:06
I am here and
28:09
I am calm and
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may it always be so.
28:20
We notice
28:27
and be.
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That was so beautiful.
28:45
Thank you for sharing. What
28:50
are you noticing, Shan, within
28:52
yourself as you connect
28:55
in?
28:56
I have this
28:59
warm center
29:01
of the sun, like Kazimi
29:03
feeling in my body. I'm
29:06
just nice and warm
29:08
and relaxed.
29:10
When our nervous system is
29:13
struggling, the blood
29:15
flows to our core
29:17
as
29:18
a way to, as part
29:20
of our survival response. So
29:23
with the autogenic training,
29:25
not only is it deeply
29:26
self honoring, as you described
29:29
in your own
29:29
experience,
29:31
but it also supports our body
29:33
in a very physical
29:35
way. There's a lot
29:38
happening as you work with that.
29:41
And it
29:42
doesn't take that much time. We
29:45
all have this
29:46
time to carve
29:48
out and give this gift to ourselves. It might
29:51
not feel like it.
29:53
I'm here to invite you to claim it
29:55
because it's yours.
29:58
John Cabat Sin.
30:01
has been known to say, meditate
30:06
as though your life depends on it because
30:08
it does.
30:10
And
30:12
I would add all of these healing
30:15
practices to that statement. Yes,
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yes,
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absolutely.
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Before we part
30:22
ways today, what
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would you like to leave us with? You have
30:27
so many gifts to share, I know. So
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finding the one to leave us
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with. What comes up for you?
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In my heart space,
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what comes up time and again
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is a great desire
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for us all to come home
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to our own hearts and know
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that we have just
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such a great capacity
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to
30:54
self heal.
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I really want everyone to know that you're
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already there. You're
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already perfect. You're already whole. That
31:04
your soul essence
31:06
shines beautifully.
31:09
That the condition of this lifetime
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means that we add many layers that
31:15
separates us from that truth.
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But as you lean into and
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cultivate these practices,
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which are really a
31:24
homecoming,
31:27
we begin to
31:29
come home to that truth
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in the most beautiful way.
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So that's my invitation.
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So many of us
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forget that
31:40
we are absolutely
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perfect just as we are.
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Right now.
31:50
Right here, right
31:51
now. Right here and right now.
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What a pleasure to spend time with you
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today.
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For me as well, I feel this
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healing current and transmission
32:05
coming through us and we are
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beautifully supported. I'm just
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so grateful to be with you and with
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your listeners.
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Thank you so much, Michelle.
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That was Dr. Michelle Kambolis.
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Get a copy of When Women Rise at michellekambolis.com
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or wherever books are sold.
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Thanks for listening to Anxiety Slayer.
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