This week, ASPI’s Executive Director, Justin Bassi speaks with Jason Healey, Senior Research Scholar at Columbia University’s School for International and Public Affairs specialising in cyber conflict, competition and cooperation.

Jason wrote and edited the book ‘A Fierce Domain: Cyber Conflict, 1986-2012’ and has held a number of senior cyber security roles, including in the Pentagon, as a founding member of Joint Task Force - Computer Network Defense, and as Director for Cyber Infrastructure Protection in the White House from 2003-2005.

Justin and Jason discuss the importance of understanding the implications of cyberspace on security and society and explain why cyber needs to be at the heart of national security.

Guests: Justin Bassi: https://www.aspi.org.au/bio/justin-bassi Jason Healey: https://www.sipa.columbia.edu/communities-connections/faculty/jason-healey

Music: "Vintage Beat" by Ketsa, licensed with permission from the Independent Music Licensing Collective - imlcollective.uk