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hi everyone has their koalas

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i want to tell you about a new podcast

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from msnbc called prosecuting

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donald trump it's has to buy msnbc

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legal analysts and veteran prosecutors

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andrew weissmann and mary mccord this

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week donald trump became the first former

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president ever to be arraigned on

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criminal charges pleading not

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guilty to thirty four felony counts

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of falsifying business

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records andrew and mary

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with their combined

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five decades of prosecuting

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experience help us understand

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how prosecutors like album brag

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funny willis and jack smith

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think about building a case when

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the defendant happens to be a former president

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the statement of the facts comes right out

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of the gate framing this case

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really as part i think of

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the whole donald trump assault

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on democracy

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rope paragraphs one

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and two this was a scheme with

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others to influence to twenty sixteen

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presidential election the

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transcript of the arraignment

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the assistant district attorney

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chris conroy same thing he came

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right out of the gate telling the story

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of these charges and characterizing

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it as an illegal conspiracy to

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undermine the integrity of the

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twenty sixteen presidential election

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i'm for sports unusual in my

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experience at an arraignment even sort

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of talk about the facts

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of the case of the framing of the case up front

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but i think this was so important in part

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because it is a false business

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records case and we can talk about the significance

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of these these are felony charges they're

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commonly

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used in white collar workers the district

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attorney oven brag explain

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during the press conference but i think

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it is significant for p the

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understand this case in

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the big

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scheme in the overall

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picture of donald trump twenty sixteen

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tried to influence the election twenty

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twenty tried to influence the election

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posts twenty twenty is still trying to

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overturn the election and he'll

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be doing this going into

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twenty twenty four he's done it multiple

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different ways but there is a

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through line here and we see it

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in this indictment it started with

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these hush money payments that were done

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specifically

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to influence the outcome

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of the election and at a critical time in

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the election to run a know andrew whether

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you had that same opinion absolutely

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that was my first thought

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which is they really were thinking about

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should have to audiences one

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was at an ultimate trial

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how do you get a jury to care

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is this just as as people are saying

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i was just hush money payments it doesn't

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add anything and terms of what

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we know about donald trump we already knew

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that he had that kind of history no

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one was voting for him cause

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he's a paragon of virtue after

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all there was the access hollywood tape and people

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he still got elected and what this

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was saying is this is actually

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an election fraud case and that

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scheme happened to trip over

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these crimes which is filing false

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business records but it was really sort

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of why you should care and

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i think the second audience was

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the public are trying to

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educate the public as to why

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the former president of united states for the

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first time in history is being charged

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