The majority of the guests on this show have two things in common:

1/ They train with Dave, Josh, George and Georgia at Before The Lights.

2/ Julie Harkin has almost certainly played a part in their career.

This week we're joined by our first 'behind-the-camera' guest as award-winning casting director Julie Harkin discusses her work on TV shows and films including the likes of Misfits, I May Destroy You, Industry and Utopia. Throughout her career, Julie and her team have been dedicated to making sure the best people for the job gets roles, with a keen focus on body diversity and colourblind casting in the industry.

During the conversation she explains how she'll "send scripts back" if they describe a character's weight without context and how there's been in culture shift in looking after yourself on and off screen. The discussion - of course - leads to an embarrassing story about how a pretty strenuous workout was interrupted by Daniel Kaluuya and Joe Dempsie (who Julie has cast in several projects over the years) who wanted to say hi mid-session.

Particularly keen listeners will also notice the conversation only contains George, Dave and Julie. Josh was in Milan on a work trip at fashion week when the episode was recorded. He called in and was on the line listening in but turns out the sound check of a catwalk isn’t an ideal environment for being able to hear you on a podcast. He'll be back next time.

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