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part in my twos? I'm Robert

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Evans, host behind the Bastards. Uh, this

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is what what what?

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What is? What is what? What is what? The last ye,

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Sophie, let's

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part in my twos. That's a solid introduction.

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I think you nailed it, Thank

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you, Jack. Sophie is being mean

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to me because she's the bastard of

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this episode. Um

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well really how mean she is to me? Yeah?

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You know, I'm still building to that one.

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Uh. This is the show about the worst people

0:41

in all the history, obviously, And in last

0:43

episode we talked about James O'Keefe,

0:45

the patron saint of news grifters, and in

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this episode we're going to talk about I

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don't know, he hasn't worked with O'Keefe,

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but you might call him his spiritual disciple,

0:54

a fella named Andy No. Uh.

0:57

Now, James O'Keeffe is higher profile than have

0:59

you heard a thing about Andy No? Jack? A recent

1:02

attest started seeing people tweet

1:04

about him and yeah, I saw the

1:06

hammer thing that happened. Yeah,

1:08

that was him where he claimed

1:11

the Antifa attacked somebody

1:13

with a hammer and it was actually then being

1:15

at that Yeah.

1:17

Yeah, And Andy's a frequent guest on Tucker

1:19

Carlson. He's very influential.

1:21

He just hasn't been around as long as O'Keefe

1:23

in the media sphere, so he's not quite as well known,

1:26

although he's getting to be that way, so

1:28

it's probably good for us to talk about him today.

1:31

Uh Andy Kuong No was born

1:33

in Portland, Oregon, at some point in nineteen

1:36

eighties six. I don't have an exact birth date

1:38

for the guy. His parents had immigrated

1:40

from Vietnam via boat slightly less

1:42

than a decade before. They've been forced into

1:45

re education camps by the country's government,

1:47

which may explain some of the political attitudes

1:49

that No inherited. As a young

1:51

man, No intended U c l A

1:53

and volunteered with AmeriCorps. He graduated

1:56

in two thousand nine with a graphic design degree.

1:59

Like roughly forty scent of the people I went

2:01

to college with, and like all of

2:03

my friends, he was unable to find any work

2:05

because graphic design degrees were essentially

2:07

a scam played upon members of my generation.

2:10

Uh He was forced to take work as a photographer for

2:13

a used car lot, and he spent a lot of time unemployed.

2:16

No would later tell BuzzFeed quote. My

2:18

brain wasn't a stupor. I couldn't spend the rest of

2:20

my life going from minimum wage job to minimum

2:22

wage job. It's pretty

2:24

sympathetic so far. A lot of us have been

2:26

there. Uh, like

2:29

many millennials who realized they'd been grifted

2:31

by the system into taking on buckets of student

2:33

loan debt for a degree that wouldn't actually get them

2:35

a job, and he turned back towards the only

2:37

thing that made sense to him, more school

2:39

and more student loan debt. In two thousand

2:41

and fifteen, he enrolled in a master's program

2:43

and political science at Portland State University.

2:47

So yeah, that's this guy's story so

2:49

far. Now. No had been raised

2:51

Buddhist and converted to Christianity

2:54

in high school, but he became an atheist in the mid

2:56

oughts. In two thousand twelve, he attended a Portland

2:58

convention of the Freedom From Legion Foundation.

3:01

As he got drawn into Internet atheist

3:03

circles, he grew increasingly concerned about

3:05

Islam. This was heightened in two thousand, fourteen

3:08

and fifteen as the Islamic state rose to prominence.

3:10

No became fascinated with radicalism,

3:12

and not just the Muslim kind. As

3:15

social justice causes became more prominent

3:17

across American campuses, Andy No grew

3:19

concerned that a frenzy was overtaking American

3:22

culture. According to a BuzzFeed

3:24

profile quote, he attended an event

3:26

at PSU where he said white students

3:28

weren't allowed to speak, and another where he said

3:30

a black student said she feared that she would be

3:32

killed on campus by a white supremacist.

3:35

I'm from this city, No remembered thinking,

3:37

and they believe Portland's state is a place where there are a

3:39

white racist all over who can come out but at

3:41

any time and kill you. It didn't seem to fit

3:43

with reality. More than that, No thought

3:45

he saw parallels with the Marxist Revolution his

3:47

parents had lived through in Vietnam. I was deeply

3:50

curious on how those beliefs could take root in my family's

3:52

adopted hometown. So

3:55

a couple of things to note, one of which is that Oregon

3:57

was literally founded as a white supremacist state,

3:59

and there have been several very well documented

4:02

murders of black people by white supremacists

4:05

in Portland itself within the

4:07

last couple of decades, so it's

4:11

well it was attempted a guy

4:13

named Jeremy Christian carried out an

4:15

attack on a Portland Max train where he

4:17

was threatening violence on

4:20

two young Muslim women, one of him was

4:22

black, and two other passengers

4:24

intervened and were stabbed to death protecting

4:26

them. That was so. Yeah,

4:29

there's a reason to be scared of white supremacists

4:31

if you live in the city of Portland. Yeah.

4:33

What a silly claim that woman

4:36

was making. Yes, Yes,

4:38

stupid of her to be worried, uh

4:41

about white supremacists who have only

4:43

killed a couple of people in Oregon recently,

4:46

as opposed to worried about Muslims who have killed

4:49

zero oregon Ians. Uh. In

4:52

by being attacked and

4:55

thus drawing that person to uh

4:59

defend her, wasn't that woman? Uh

5:02

sort of responsible? She

5:04

was? She was. If she

5:06

had just not been on

5:09

the bus, there would have been no attack. Yeah.

5:12

I mean, there's two sides here. There's

5:14

two sides here, both sides of this one. Robert.

5:17

Yeah, that does remind me of how

5:19

it was explained to me traffic

5:21

rules work for foreigners in Japan that if

5:23

you're a foreigner and you're involved in a traffic altercation,

5:26

it's generally viewed as your fault because if you

5:28

hadn't moved to Japan, the

5:30

crash wouldn't happen. Um,

5:35

yeah, now, no

5:37

claims. All of this stuff pushed him into becoming

5:40

a free speech activist and a journalist.

5:42

He joined the Portland State Vanguard, a school

5:44

paper, as its multimedia editor. In

5:46

two thousands seventeen, he showed up at an interfaith

5:49

talk at the university called Unpacking

5:51

Misconceptions. During the talk, a

5:53

Muslim student was asked for their interpretation

5:55

of chronic law and how it would apply to

5:57

non Muslims living in an Islamic state

5:59

if that country applied the strictest interpretations

6:02

of chronic law. The student

6:04

responded that, based on her understanding, non Muslims

6:07

would be asked to leave the country. The implication

6:09

is that they would be killed if they did not. Another

6:12

Muslim immediately argued against this interpretation

6:14

of the law, which is, by the way, absolutely

6:17

not what the Koran says. It's actually the opposite

6:19

of a bunch of ship. Mohammed said, Uh,

6:21

if you're a Muslim and running a society

6:23

according to like the rules Mohammed set out, you're

6:25

actually required to treat people of the book

6:28

in certain ways and protect them. Um,

6:30

but no, ignored that other students response,

6:32

and ignored the fact that the first response had been to

6:34

a theoretical question, not the student being

6:37

asked what they wanted. He tweeted a video

6:39

clip of just the response with the words

6:41

at Portland State inter Faith panel today, the

6:43

Muslim student speakers said that Apple States will

6:46

be killed or banished in an Islamic state. Sounds

6:50

great. Journalism would say it at

6:52

an all faiths Uh yeah,

6:55

college. Yeah,

6:57

and we see kind of the same O'Keefe,

6:59

tach dick where you you you

7:02

pick out just the answer to a question

7:04

that if you strip it up all context sounds

7:06

bad. But if included with context,

7:09

is just people having a discussion. Um,

7:12

but you don't include the discussion because the

7:14

news story is just that clip. Um

7:17

yeah. It was a moment perfectly crafted for the

7:19

right wing rage machine. Bright Bart quickly

7:21

farted out a news story titled Muslim student

7:24

claims that nonbelievers will be killed in Islamic

7:26

countries. So the fallout

7:29

all this was significant. Andy was fired

7:31

from the newspaper, which led to more rage from

7:33

the right as they rallied around their victimized

7:35

truth teller. Andy was allowed to write an op

7:37

ed for The National Review where he basically claimed

7:39

that he had been let go for exposing the moral

7:41

bankruptcy at the heart of multiculturalism.

7:44

The Vanguard's editor said that Andy had been fired

7:46

instead for oversimplifying the student's

7:48

answered to the point of rank and accuracy. The

7:51

editor also noted that Andy seemed baffling

7:53

le and dangerously focused on Islam,

7:55

despite the fact that very few Muslim people

7:57

live anywhere in Oregon and there have been no Islamic

8:00

terrorist attacks in the state of note uh

8:02

now that any hope of Yeah, so at

8:05

this point, any hope of career, of Andy's

8:07

career as a legitimate journalist had been shot, and

8:09

Andy no moved on to the refuge of all shameless

8:12

partisan hacks. Are they suggesting that

8:14

nine eleven was not an attack

8:16

on all of America? Because

8:19

that's bullshit. We

8:21

were all attacked that day, all right,

8:23

we were all attacked that day.

8:26

I mean, I guess fair on your joke

8:28

too. I'm sure in Oregon ian or two died

8:31

in that attack, But yeah,

8:34

I don't know. It's just it's telling that his focus

8:36

is entirely on Islam, when if

8:38

you look at the problem of political and religious

8:40

violence in Oregon. Um,

8:43

that's not really a big issue there.

8:46

Um. Yeah. So and

8:48

he moves on to podcasting after he gets

8:50

kicked out of the newspaper. Uh. And I

8:52

hate to admit it, Jack, but he kind of picked

8:54

a perfect title for his new show, You

8:57

want to You want to guess what Andy No calls his podcast,

9:00

uh something

9:03

with his last name you.

9:05

Yeah, it is something, It's Yeah. He called

9:07

it Things you Should Know.

9:12

Mm hmmmmm wow. I

9:15

mean yes, And he already

9:18

has a job, so I can't go out and hire him on

9:20

the spot. No, No, you can't. Um.

9:23

I mean I was ripping him off when

9:25

I pitched the title for this podcast initially

9:27

as Things you should Robert Evans. Um.

9:30

We we didn't go with that for some reason. But

9:34

I mean, maybe we could sue him

9:36

for copyright infringement for stuff you should

9:39

Know? Yes, you should know? So.

9:42

Uh. Andy's guests were men like Jordan Peterson,

9:44

YouTuber Sargon of a Cod, Dave Ruben,

9:47

and other alt right in intellectual dark Web

9:49

figures. But podcasting is hard

9:51

and only super profitable if you have the voice of

9:53

a Greek god like us, or you happen

9:55

to be Joe Rogan. Like Joe Rogan, uh

9:58

so, Andy No looked towards the

10:00

and a highly lucrative example set

10:02

by what I

10:04

liked that Yeah,

10:09

that part was fun to write. Um.

10:12

Yeah, so Andy looked towards the highly

10:14

lucrative example set by James O'Keeffe.

10:16

Uh Andy had already succeeded in making one

10:19

story go viral on the right wing, and unfortunately

10:21

he hadn't moved quick enough to properly capitalize

10:24

on the opportunity. So he set to work crafting

10:26

another viral piece of fake news and the hope

10:28

that it, too would set the right wing rage machine

10:30

a light and direct donations to his patreon.

10:33

On August twenty nine, two eighteen,

10:35

Andy No published an article titled a

10:38

Visit to Islamic England on the Wall

10:40

Street Journal. I'm just gonna read how

10:42

this article opened a visit

10:44

to Islamic England. The subheading is Muslims

10:47

headed to Friday prayer while non Muslims

10:49

went the other way. No one made

10:51

eye contact. Here's

10:53

how it opens London. Other

10:55

tourists may remember London for its spectacular

10:58

sites in history, but I remember it for his um.

11:00

When I was visiting the UK as a teenager in

11:02

two thousand and six, I got lost in an East London

11:04

market. There I saw a group of women wearing

11:07

head to toe black cloaks. I froze,

11:09

confused and intimidated by the faceless figures.

11:11

It was my first encounter within Ni Cobb, which

11:13

covers everything but a woman's eyes. Yeah.

11:18

I did actually include this in the script.

11:20

But there's literally a quote from Adolph

11:22

Hitler where he's talking about how he first realized

11:25

the Jews were dangerous, where he talks

11:27

about seeing a fundamentalist

11:29

Jewish man wearing like the hair locks

11:32

and the yamaka in public in Vienna,

11:35

and like he said, I found myself asking

11:37

first is this a Jew? And then

11:40

is this a German? Like that? That's literally

11:42

something Adolph Hitler wrote about, like his like

11:45

that's how Andy opens this fucking article.

11:48

Um, this was published in what publications?

11:50

The Wall Street motherfucking journal

11:53

what, which you might remember, Google

11:55

considers to be the most credible source.

11:57

Yeah, I mean because they

12:00

over both sides, the cified

12:03

of people from other cultures

12:06

and and the

12:08

other side. Yeah,

12:11

it's um, it's pretty

12:13

wild. Now. The article was torn apart

12:15

by people who actually live in England, which,

12:17

in case you were not aware, Jack is not an

12:19

Islamic state. Muslims makeup roughly

12:21

five percent of the English population. No,

12:23

he just saw one one of them

12:26

and it scared him. It scared

12:28

him. People weren't making eye contact Jack. Yeah.

12:32

And also this is a story

12:34

of a time he got scared in two

12:36

thousand six. Yeah, I think

12:38

so. Yeah,

12:41

Yeah, I think he went more recently for the

12:44

article, like for the like he he opens it

12:46

with a story of himself there in two thousand and six. He's

12:48

a bit of an anglophile, but he he went back

12:50

for the article. Um, so you

12:52

know that that. I should note that in fairness,

12:55

In more fairness, I should note that exaggerations

12:58

and outright bullshit were very common in the

13:00

article. At one point, Andy No complained

13:03

about seeing a sign that called a neighborhood

13:05

and alcohol restricted zone. Without

13:08

doing any further research, Like a journalist,

13:10

Andy just assumed that since alcohol is haram

13:12

from Muslims, they were behind this nefarious

13:15

sign. The reality is that this neighborhood

13:17

was an alcohol free zone due to a public safety

13:19

ordinance created to stem a massive public

13:22

drunkenness problem. Alcohol itself

13:24

was not banned, just street drinking. But

13:26

of course Andy did no digging and blamed

13:28

Muslims for banning alcohol in this neighborhood.

13:31

Muslims for the fact that you're not allowed

13:34

to drink on the street in America. Yeah,

13:37

it's it's fucking wild man. Yeah,

13:42

I I do shout that regularly

13:44

at police when they arrest me for public drunkenness.

13:47

What is this isis? Yeah,

13:50

I should note that I've spent time, like,

13:52

obviously there are Muslim countries where

13:54

alcohol is forbidden or very difficult

13:57

to acquire. But I have gotten so

13:59

drunk in so many Muslim majority

14:02

nations and never had

14:04

a problem with it, and

14:06

met so many Muslims who were like, oh, yeah,

14:08

we drink too, it's fine, Like it's it's like

14:11

you meet a lot of Jewish people who eat shellfish,

14:13

you know. But for whatever reason, because

14:16

conservatives are scared of Muslims, they assume

14:18

that it's some like hardcore dictate

14:20

that every one of them follows, which

14:22

like if you've ever, I don't know, I've

14:24

I've gotten drunk with a lot of young women in head

14:26

scarfs, Like it's it's far

14:29

from universally applied. I didn't make eye contact

14:32

with you. How did you manage

14:34

to unfreeze yourself while you

14:36

were around those women? I mean, I will

14:38

say they were not wearing the cobs. Have never

14:40

gotten drunk with somebody wearing the full na cob.

14:42

Those people tend to be much more

14:44

serious about the letter of

14:46

of of Islamic Jewish prudence

14:49

or whatever you call it. But um yeah uh

14:52

now. In response to complaints about his shitty

14:54

article, Andy wrote a follow up in The American

14:56

Spectator, another right wing news site. Here's

14:58

how he tried to defend him self. These vitriolic

15:01

attacks all seized on my mistake over the sign

15:03

as evidence of my prejudice against Muslims.

15:05

In fact, it was just trying and perhaps sometimes

15:07

failing, to describe what I saw. I admit

15:10

to having been surprised by quite how segregated

15:12

some parts of Britain have become. I tried it to make judgments

15:14

about that, But what I believe to be true is that Britain's

15:16

multicultural policies had produced with Nobel

15:18

Prize winning economist Martya Sin calls

15:21

plural monol culturism. That is,

15:23

different communities or mono cultures existing

15:25

side by side with literally to no interaction

15:27

with one another, which I don't know if

15:29

you've ever seen what drunken British people eat

15:31

when they're out on the street, which tends to be donner

15:34

Kebab's like like, there's there's

15:36

plenty of interchange, and

15:39

so he's saying that. He was actually

15:41

talking about how the cultures

15:43

don't interact enough. It

15:45

was his was his issue. But

15:48

he's the one who in the

15:50

story that opens the piece, freezes

15:54

and terror when he sees a

15:56

Muslim woman. Yeah, I think,

15:59

as as is generally true with bigots,

16:01

his writing reveals his own prejudices

16:03

more than it does any actual problems

16:05

at the core of British culture or multiculturalism

16:08

as a whole. So uh. Sadly,

16:10

this article did not succeed in making Annie

16:12

Know a household name or hurning him a spot

16:14

with an outfit like Project Veritas,

16:17

so he kept going. In the wake of the Jesse Smollett

16:19

case, he started keeping a running tally of fake

16:22

hate crimes, which he would collect and cover

16:24

in articles with titles like Inventing

16:26

Victimhood and hate Crime Hoaxes

16:28

Reflect America's sickness, and

16:31

he also took to the streets live streaming and writing

16:33

about the escalating series of violent political

16:35

rallies that have rocked Portland since the two thousand

16:37

sixteen election. In October of eighteen,

16:40

he showed up at a peaceful rally by the activist

16:42

group Don't Shoot Portlands, a march raising

16:44

awareness for the police killing of Patrick Kimmins,

16:47

a twenty seven year old black man. This

16:49

was a fairly tame and orderly march. The

16:51

only really negative moment came when a driver

16:53

made an a legal right hand turn and hit some

16:55

protesters who were legally crossing a crosswalk.

16:58

This led several protests just to hit the driver's

17:01

vehicle. One protester shoved the driver.

17:03

No one was seriously hurt, and the driver was allowed

17:06

to pull away. A reasonable person

17:08

might conclude that the protesters raged at the driver

17:10

was understandable, given that he'd driven a car

17:12

into them, and given the car based terrorist attack

17:15

on protesters in Charlottesville a year

17:17

before. But a

17:19

right wing radio station w CBM

17:21

retweeted footage of one angle of the altercation,

17:24

edited to remove all context of the event. They

17:26

tweeted out with this, Antifa anarchists

17:28

threatened elderly driver in Portland. The

17:31

story spread across white right wing media. One

17:33

of the people who helped to spread it was Andy no

17:36

Uh nose tweets eventually reached

17:38

Tucker Carlson, and Mr Carlson had Andy

17:41

no on as a guest to discuss the attack.

17:43

So that's what we're gonna listen to next.

17:45

But first, Sophie is informing me via

17:48

vociferously waved fingers that it

17:50

is time for an ad break. So

17:54

yep, yep, what

17:56

what's what's an ad break? Well,

18:00

act, I don't know if you realize this, but

18:02

the money in podcasting comes

18:05

from a collection of advertisers

18:07

who who support our

18:10

our content with their products and

18:12

services and the advertising petro dollars

18:14

that they generate. Um

18:17

petro dollars. Yeah, I

18:19

try to use that term once a day. Um.

18:21

I usually just shouted at people on the street

18:24

as I drive past. But today it's going to be in a podcast.

18:28

Products we're

18:35

back, so uh, we're talking about

18:37

you know, this car hits protesters. Some of

18:39

them hit the car back because they're angry getting

18:42

hit by a car, and uh. The story spreads

18:44

and right wing media as anarchists threatening

18:46

an elderly driver. UM.

18:48

Dr Carlson has Andy No on to discuss

18:51

the event the attack. Uh.

18:53

The on screen shiron above their

18:56

below the discussion is antipha violence

18:58

out of control. So I'm gonna play a ship from

19:00

that. Here's Andy no talking to Tucker

19:02

Carlson. Some of the footage you showed

19:05

was recorded over the weekend on Saturday

19:07

by Brandon Farley, and

19:09

that was a protest

19:11

organized by Don't Shoot Portland's,

19:14

which is a Black Lives Matter

19:16

type of group. They were protesting the

19:18

police involved shooting of

19:20

a man who is suspective of

19:22

shooting two people. The

19:25

police here, um take

19:27

a pretty hands off approach much of the time

19:29

with protesters. And what

19:33

you saw on Saturday in the video

19:35

is that demonstrators were

19:38

allowed to take over a street

19:40

in downtown Portland and

19:43

direct traffic and threatened drivers

19:46

stop traffic while the

19:48

police looked on from a block away

19:51

because they were afraid of inflaming the situation.

19:54

So, um, there's a couple of things

19:56

you might have noticed from that video. One

19:59

of them is and he's accent was

20:01

as Yeah, that's his fake British

20:04

accent um, which he has affected

20:06

since he became a media personality.

20:08

I want to reiterate that he was born and raised

20:11

in Portland, Oregon. I was so confused

20:13

by that. Yeah, yeah, he he

20:16

pretends to be British. Sounds like

20:19

what's his name, Sebastian Gorka.

20:21

Yeah, he's not good at having a fake British

20:23

accent, but I think he's he's a real Anglo

20:25

file. Um. Yeah, he's

20:27

He sounds a little bit like Frasier Crane.

20:30

Um. Yeah. Now the

20:32

other thing you may have noticed is that in this

20:34

interview he basically describes

20:36

the police as ignoring anti fascists.

20:39

At one point, he says that the response to Antifa

20:41

has been hands off in the city of Portland.

20:43

I should note that he described this response as hands

20:45

off five months after Portland police opened

20:48

fire with grenades upon a crowd of anti fascist

20:50

activists. One man was shot in the

20:52

back of the head the less than lethal munition

20:54

cractice skull and would have killed him had he not been

20:56

wearing a helmet. Um. But

20:58

that hands off them with their

21:01

hands I mean with Truncheon's

21:06

hands off technically. Uh

21:08

so. The faux outrage over this non incident

21:11

helped inspire a patriot prayer rally

21:13

organized by the group's leader, Joey Gibson,

21:15

which he called Flash March for Law and Order

21:18

in Portland. The march provided

21:20

onlookers with a great example of what happens when

21:22

these far right rallies are not met by an organized

21:24

anti fascist presence. Right wing brawlers

21:27

assaulted numerous people on the street as scattered

21:29

anti fascists struggled to respond. You can find

21:31

video of right wing gang members stomping on people

21:33

and punching them unprovoked. This happened

21:35

a matter of days after a group of Proud Boys ran

21:37

rough shot over a neighborhood in New York City, assaulting

21:40

outnumbered counter protesters. Now

21:42

andy No hadn't filmed the video of the car

21:44

assault that Tucker Carlson publicized, but he had

21:46

helped spread it, and by showing up on Carlson's

21:49

show pretending to be a non biased journalist

21:51

in making anti fascists look dangerous, he'd

21:53

found a lucrative niche for himself, the

21:55

one that he had been looking for all his career.

21:59

So a little bit after that video went

22:01

viral, another video went viral

22:03

on Tucker Carlson's The Daily Caller as

22:06

a result of a tweet that Andy No had sent out

22:08

on the surface. This video showed a left wing activist

22:11

yelling at a woman who claimed to be a nine eleven

22:13

widow. She was not actually a nine eleven

22:15

widow. She was lying about that, but Tucker

22:17

Carlson credited No with bringing the video to a site's

22:20

attention, although No had not actually

22:22

filmed it. The video ignited the right wing rage

22:24

machine and sent hundreds of extremely online

22:26

conservatives into a doxing frenzy.

22:28

Unfortunately, they were bad at it, and rather than doxing

22:31

the actual activists, they docked a professional

22:33

skateboarder that they misidentified as the culprit.

22:35

When the actual dude was finally identified, he

22:38

received mass death threats, as did the social

22:40

service agency who employed him. According

22:42

to a round guptam who interviewed a source at the agency,

22:45

it was quote flooded with hundreds of harassing

22:47

calls and Facebook messages that were explicitly

22:49

racist and threatening to harm and kill staff.

22:52

So this has going on for months

22:55

on end Andy No publicizing and often

22:57

editing misleading videos to sick angry conservatives

22:59

on coal Portland activists, many

23:01

of them have received death threats as a result of this. In

23:04

an article for the left wing website Jacobin.

23:06

Gupta notes quote Jacobin has talked

23:08

to six people in Portland, including journalists,

23:10

political officials, and activists, who described

23:13

harassing messages and threats of violence resulting

23:15

from nose work or political involvement in Portland.

23:18

Friends of two other activists claim they went into hiding

23:20

after No spread their names and they became targets of

23:22

harassment. Some individuals who's tangled

23:24

publicly with No are reluctant to go on their record.

23:26

They say they want to avoid the trauma of being subjected

23:29

to a new round of death threats. In

23:31

fact, and you know, seems to rely on people

23:33

not speaking of about his effect on them. He often

23:35

writes of how activists won't talk to him or

23:37

how they take down social media profiles after

23:39

he focuses on them, seeming to imply they

23:41

have something to hide. Madison, a Portland

23:44

activists who tracks No, says No signals

23:46

that this is a person that should be targeted, should

23:48

be harassed, and should be threatened, and he puts

23:50

a target on them, and that results in the person being doxed,

23:53

and he is giving people explicit permission

23:55

to unleash hatred and violence on people. He

23:57

absolutely knows what he's doing, knows

24:01

what he's doing. Uh,

24:03

you did it. Yeah, I can do

24:05

the thing that he does. Yep,

24:07

yep, it is okay for us to do because

24:10

he did it. Um.

24:12

Now we're actually gonna run into another

24:14

case like that a little later. Uh nos role

24:16

in stoking harassment against against individuals

24:18

he disagrees with goes even deeper than that. See.

24:21

Andy is now an editor at the far right

24:23

website Quilette, which, among other things,

24:25

runs articles that advocate for a cleaned up,

24:27

modern version of phrenology. Earlier

24:30

this year, Quilette ran an article by a researcher

24:32

named Yoin uh Lenihan. On

24:34

its surface, the article purported to be

24:36

a groundbreaking study laying out a network

24:38

of journalists who were secretly connected

24:40

to Antifa. Now, the reality

24:43

is that Yoin is no more a researcher

24:45

than I am a tennis pro. His idea

24:47

of being connected to Antifa was no

24:50

deeper than tracking journalists who followed at least

24:52

sixteen verified Antifa accounts

24:54

and wrote articles he considered sympathetic to

24:56

anti fascists. There are a number

24:58

of reasons this is absurd. For example,

25:01

I follow at least sixteen anti fascist

25:03

accounts. I also follow Augustus

25:05

and Victus, a literal neo Nazi running

25:07

for president. I followed members of numerous

25:10

right wing, extremist and terrorist groups on

25:12

Twitter, because as a journalist, that's

25:14

kind of what you do now.

25:16

The Independent, in coverage of this even noted

25:18

that Quilett's founding editor, Claire Lehman, follows

25:21

more than sixteen white nationalist accounts

25:23

on Twitter. But the fact that Lenihan was

25:25

a complete fraud with no academic credentials,

25:27

and the fact that his study was nonsense had no

25:29

impact on Quilette. The study spread

25:32

like wildfire through the fever swamps of the right and

25:34

eventually made its way into the phones and computers

25:36

of actual Nazi terrorists. One

25:38

white nationalists tied to the Adam Waffen Division,

25:40

posted a YouTube video that showed pictures

25:42

of several of the journalists named in the Quilette article.

25:45

The video was titled Sunset the Media,

25:47

and it not so subtly suggested that these

25:49

people should be murdered. The video ended

25:52

with a quote from James Mason, a neo

25:54

Nazi terrorist and author of the book Siege,

25:56

which is a guide for how to commit terrorism.

25:59

The quote was about so called lone wolf attacks.

26:01

Mason said quote, I do not urge anyone

26:03

to do anything like that, but when it gets

26:06

done, I won't disown them. Jesus.

26:09

Now, this all kind of pisces me off because

26:11

a lot of the people named in the article

26:13

and in that video, our colleagues and friends

26:15

of mine. The Quilette article made it onto

26:17

Stormfront and neo Nazi message board, the FBI

26:20

has tied to more than a hundred murders, and it's

26:22

led to a lot of death threats from different groups

26:24

towards journalists who are really good reporters.

26:27

By publishing the shot a piece of crap journalism,

26:30

the editors at Quilette endangered the lives of innocent

26:32

people. One of those people was reporter

26:34

Shane Burley, he noted in an article

26:36

for The Independent. Quote in a tweet, Quilette

26:39

contributor Andy No attempted to identify

26:41

us and others as covert Antifa ideologues

26:44

posing as experts for willing journalists, all

26:46

of whom apparently have joined together in a plot to

26:48

create some kind of media Antifa industrial

26:51

complex. So you can see why

26:53

a lot of people in Portland are not exactly

26:55

big fans of Mr Andy No. Their

26:57

distaste for him would intensify after May

26:59

one, two thousand nineteen. Now

27:02

Portland is obviously a very left wing city,

27:04

and made a marches are common there due to the

27:07

sheer number of leftist activists in the streets.

27:09

Right wing protesters like Joey Gibson, Patriot

27:11

Prayer, and Century Proud Boys avoided

27:13

hosting a single event where they would be swamped

27:15

and swarmed, and instead traveled around in a small

27:17

group, demasking people and generally trolling.

27:20

At the end of the day, they headed to a popular

27:22

anti fascist hang out in the city named

27:25

Cider Riot. Now cider Riot

27:27

is a bar, although they get angry if you call them a

27:29

bar and prefer the term CIDERI I'm going to be referring

27:31

to them as a bar because they're a bar. Uh.

27:36

Sorry, cider right. Uh.

27:38

Joey Gibson and a group of his goons showed up

27:40

there with Andy No in tow and assaulted

27:42

several people there. Ian Kramer, a member

27:45

of Patriot Prayer, whipped out a telescoping

27:47

baton and shattered a young woman's vertebrae

27:49

with it. The attack is on video

27:52

and it is entirely unprovoked. There was no

27:54

fight, just a violent assault that you could very

27:56

fairly call attempted murder. Hey,

27:58

everybody, one quick bit of clarification.

28:01

When I say there was no fight, like there was a

28:03

big brawl going on at cider Riot

28:05

that was started initially when some guys from

28:07

Patriot Prayer began macing the

28:09

people at Cider Riot and they sprayed mace back,

28:11

and it eventually evolved into throwing stuff

28:13

and then a fist fight. Um. When I say there

28:16

was no fight, I mean that the young woman whose vertebrate

28:18

was broken was not fighting. She in fact

28:20

had her back turn to Ian Cramer at the time

28:22

when he swung at her. So I just wanted to clarify

28:25

on that point. Now. In

28:27

recent days, there have been a number of arrests

28:29

I think six so far due to the May Day attack,

28:32

but we're gonna get to that later. In the immediate

28:34

wake of the attack, is Portland Local shared

28:36

video of the brutal assault, Andy publicly

28:38

doubted on Twitter whether the woman had suffered any

28:41

kind of serious injury. He also

28:43

docked her in a tweet in which he claimed, without

28:45

proof that she had committed crimes at a previous

28:47

event. His tweet read the anti

28:49

full woman who got knocked out cold at may Day

28:51

is and he gave her name. She is the person who

28:53

tried to shut down the James to More Portland State

28:55

panel last year by sabotaging and damaging

28:57

sound equipment. Now, as

29:00

you might imagine, this piste off more people.

29:02

Several folks who were at cider Riot claimed

29:04

No had basically lured them out of the bar and was

29:06

thus a willing participant in the attack. I

29:08

haven't seen any event that this is true, but

29:10

I say this in order to give you an idea of the sort

29:12

of attitude that developed around No in the wake

29:15

of that attack. People were pissed at

29:17

him. This all came to a head in July,

29:19

during yet another set of dueling anti fascist

29:21

rallies in Portland. Andy No showed

29:23

up live streaming to the anti fascist side of

29:26

things, where he was promptly doubted with multiple

29:28

milkshakes. I was actually there for that

29:30

part. Not long after that, he wound

29:32

up surrounded by a group of masked anti fascists.

29:35

Several of these people assaulted him, punching

29:37

him a number of times. The video of the assault

29:39

is very clear and quite ugly. No

29:42

immediately filmed himself bruised and bloodied

29:44

in the wake of the attack. Now, the assault

29:46

went very viral and prompted calls from the

29:48

President and Republican lawmakers to de claar

29:50

Antifa a domestic terrorist organization.

29:53

Even centrist journalists like Jake Tapper

29:55

picked up on the story, reporting it as another case

29:57

of antipha violence against journalists. Real

30:00

story, I hate

30:02

Jake Tapper. Yeah, he's he's he's he's a garbage

30:04

reporter. Now, the real story

30:06

is a lot more complicated than that. UM And you

30:09

know is not a journalist. He has a right wing

30:11

activist that does not justify as assault,

30:13

which was absolutely not okay. But he

30:15

was not a bystander just recording

30:18

the event. And you know was a participant

30:20

in a running series of street battles which have torn

30:22

Portland's apart for the last three years. He

30:25

got assaulted during one of these street battles, and again

30:27

that's not okay. But his assault is no different

30:30

from any of the hundreds of other assaults,

30:32

most of which were against left wing demonstrators,

30:34

that have taken place during the last three years. UM.

30:38

And this fact is made very clear in

30:40

a video that was released just a couple

30:42

of weeks ago, or just actually less than a week ago

30:44

when we record this, which we'll

30:46

talk about once we come back from an ad

30:48

break. We're

30:54

back, so as things

30:57

currently stand, and he know has been assaulted

30:59

uh in lie during a protest. The

31:01

video goes viral, he shows up all over the

31:03

media and within a matter of literally

31:06

like hours, raises close to a quarter of

31:08

a million dollars for his medical bills.

31:10

UM. So that's what people knew. In

31:12

July, now, roughly

31:15

a month later, a full video

31:18

from the May Day attack was

31:20

released. UH. And this video

31:22

showed was had been filmed

31:24

by someone who had been walking and marching with

31:26

Joey Gibson, Andy No and other right wing

31:29

activists on their way to cider riot that

31:31

May Day. Uh. The full video paints

31:33

a very different picture of what happened than

31:35

one I think No would have liked to have been known.

31:38

I'm gonna quote the Portland's Mercury's coverage

31:40

of the video quote. The most incendiary of

31:42

the clips show a small group of Patriot Prayer members

31:44

milling about a few blocks from the cider bar, waiting

31:46

for instructions from Gibson, who's texting

31:49

Joey? Someone asks, While the group seems to be without

31:51

a game plan, another man says, tell

31:53

Joey about and them to hurry the funk up. I hope

31:55

they got like ten big dudes with them. As the group

31:57

waits, they discussed their weaponry. A few men consider

31:59

which way the winds blowing to avoid getting spray in

32:01

their eyes. Another man holds a thick wooden

32:03

dowel and practices swinging it like a baseball

32:06

bat. Somewhere goggles helmets and tactical

32:08

gloves. One woman is holding a brick. Who's

32:10

the guy with the weapons? Here? A man holding a police

32:12

baton says, appearing to become agitated, that the

32:14

group has to wait for Gibson me. A

32:16

little while later, someone in the group tells a person

32:19

on speaker phone there's going to be a huge

32:21

fight and gives them directions to cider riot.

32:24

Now that all is pretty damning evidence

32:26

of conspiracy to riot, which is what six of

32:28

the people present there have been arrested for. And

32:30

Andy no was present and filming

32:33

for all of this, but not once in

32:35

the wake of the attacks did he share any of his

32:37

videos, any of his audio or report.

32:39

This clear evidence of people planning planning

32:41

to commit mass assault to the police or

32:43

to the media. You can even in the

32:45

video see him smile at one point as his

32:47

comrades discussed their plans to attack the cider

32:50

bar. This video makes it very clear that

32:52

and you Know is not a journalist. He is

32:54

a participant in this attack. Of

32:56

course, none of this evidence was out in July when no was

32:58

assaulted and he was able to is a huge amount

33:00

of money. He claimed in the immediate wake of the attack

33:03

that he had suffered a brain bleed. He has presented

33:05

zero evidence of this. He flew across the across

33:07

the country less than a week later and was checked out

33:10

of the hospital the next day. I feel it's

33:12

fair to question Knows honestly about the extent of

33:14

his injuries, since that's exactly what he did to the

33:16

young woman who had her spine broken outside

33:18

of cider riot. Now, the

33:20

good news seems to be that many journalists

33:22

on the center have at least finally started waking

33:25

up to Andy knows grift. During the August

33:27

seventeen protests, which I also attended,

33:29

No retweeted several edited chunks of other

33:31

people's videos to try and push claims that Antifa

33:33

has committed numerous assaults on decent, harmless

33:36

right wing activists. To give you a brief

33:38

summary of his lies, he claimed that a

33:40

bicyclist swerved to avoid an Antifa

33:42

person on a scooter, causing a serious accident.

33:45

Uh. There was in fact a scooter bicycle accident

33:48

during the time of the rally, but it had nothing to do

33:50

with the protest or Antifa and Portland Police

33:53

repeatedly pointed this out when

33:55

challenged on this fact any know posted. Portland

33:57

Police Bureau have released a press statement saying that too had

33:59

actually collided when the woman on the scooter was going

34:01

in the wrong direction. A source tells me

34:03

she was part of the Antifa group. She and friends

34:06

had been passing around the scooter and taking turns

34:08

trying it out. Yeah.

34:10

At another yeah, yeah, damning

34:12

Andy. Uh. At another point in

34:14

the day, an armored school bus filled

34:16

with members of American Guard, a fascist

34:18

extremist group linked to nine murders and

34:20

mosque burnings, attempted to cross into down

34:23

town Portland to do god knows what. They

34:25

were caught by anti fascists while stopped in traffic

34:28

the anti fascists chucked water bottles

34:30

and what appears to be sheet rock at the bus,

34:32

which again was armored and had screens

34:34

on most of the windows. Several of

34:37

them kicked at the door of the bus. The

34:39

fascists then opened the door of the bus and

34:41

one of them began swinging a hammer at people's

34:43

faces. One anti fascist managed

34:45

to take the hammer from him and swing it back.

34:47

Andy No tweeted edited video that just showed

34:50

the anti fascist with the hammer and claimed that this

34:52

had been an unprovoked attack by Antifa,

34:54

something actual video evidence clearly contradicts.

34:57

Again, this is the guy's fucking strategy.

35:00

At several points he posted video or pictures

35:02

of injured older men claiming they had been assaulted

35:05

by Antifa. In every case, full video

35:07

show that these men were taking place in street brawls

35:09

and in some cases instigating them. One

35:11

video is a picture of a clearly inebriated

35:14

man who taped his fists up specifically to

35:16

punch people, and repeatedly shouted the passer

35:18

by where faggots. He was eventually succeeded

35:20

in starting a fight. When he was beat up, Anti

35:22

fascist street medics provided first aid care

35:25

to him. This is all documented, But here's

35:27

how Andy no characterized things, posting

35:29

just a picture of the man on the ground. Middle

35:32

aged man was maased and beaten by an Antifa

35:34

mob. He was knocked unconscious to the ground. His

35:36

partner or spouse was trying to protect him as the mob

35:38

still surrounded them no police. When

35:41

the man regained consciousness, he began

35:43

like instigating fights immediately again like

35:45

he was with the Yeah,

35:49

yeah, cool, it's it's it's all pretty

35:52

yeah. So, in the wake

35:54

of the footage of the media attack and the sheer

35:56

shocking number of lies Noah was caught telling about

35:58

the August seventeenth rally, many Low Glen National

36:00

reporters have begun to dissociate themselves from

36:02

him. So it is possible that his grift has

36:05

peaked and we're all about to watch him take a downhill

36:07

slide. But if the lesson of James O'Keefe

36:09

teaches us anything, it's that repeated and flagrant

36:11

lies are no barrier to a lucrative career

36:13

in right wing journalism. And based

36:16

on that, I suspect that and you know

36:18

is going to have a long and very

36:20

profitable career. Has he been on Tucker

36:22

Carlson's show recently.

36:25

I don't think he's been since August seventeen, actually,

36:28

but I'm not a certain about that. Tucker

36:31

Carlson also took a

36:33

planned vacation recently, so

36:35

maybe. Yeah, Well, after claiming

36:38

that white supremacy was not a problem in the US

36:40

after a white supremacist terror attack. He always

36:42

seems to have these vacations planned for

36:44

right after he says some just blatantly

36:47

racist ship. It's weird. I mean, you

36:50

know, that's how I plan all of my vacations

36:52

too, So I'm not going to hit him too much on that. You

36:54

know. Uh, I don't know,

36:57

and you know, it makes me very angry. I think

36:59

he's a dangerous person, um,

37:01

and I don't like him. That's the That's

37:03

that's what I got. Yeah,

37:05

that seems to be Um.

37:08

You know, the actual Nazis

37:11

during you know, the early

37:13

twentieth century didn't make

37:15

a bunch of very uh

37:18

convincing documentaries, but they made

37:20

a bunch of you know, famous

37:23

works of propaganda. And because

37:26

you have to uh edit

37:28

the truth out of movies to get

37:32

for the reality

37:34

or presenting to cohere to your

37:36

version of things. And it seems like that

37:39

Yeah, these people are just propagandists

37:42

who managed to hijack

37:45

a very willing right wing

37:47

media and a bad

37:49

centrist media. You know, Andy know was

37:52

responsible, like during them the rally in July

37:55

for sharing this picture of what

37:57

what If you look at the picture, it's an older

37:59

man in his sixties um

38:01

with white hair and just blood pouring

38:03

down his face and the top of his shirt. UM,

38:06

which you know, obviously was claimed to have been an

38:08

old man assaulted by Antifa for

38:10

no good reason, and it made it into

38:13

like local reporting like cinterest

38:15

and sort of mainstream local news organizations.

38:17

Like one of the titles right above this picture was two

38:19

more Oregon men or left bloody after violent

38:21

Antifa attack at Portland's protest. There's

38:24

other pictures of the same guy before he's

38:26

bloody, with a telescoping baton

38:29

and a fedora, smiling and

38:31

rushing towards the crowd, and there's video of

38:33

him sparking attacks and swinging a stick

38:35

at people. The guy got hit in the head after

38:37

swinging a baton at people and instigating

38:39

attacks. Like, yeah, the violence

38:43

definitely occurred on both sides, but this

38:45

guy was an instigator and not an

38:47

innocent old man, he was a dude swinging

38:49

a fucking baton at people like

38:52

That's part of the problem is that, like what's been happening

38:55

in Portland is a complicated

38:57

and conflicting series of

38:59

street attles, and there's absolutely been bad

39:01

actors on both sides. But

39:04

the right wing media is trying to portray Antifa

39:06

is this like violent organization, whereas the

39:08

reality is most of them are

39:11

more apt to do things like show up in banana

39:13

costumes as a marching band or like

39:16

like help hold prayer vigils

39:18

and stuff, and there are a

39:20

smaller number of guys who

39:22

are there because they want to have a fight, whereas

39:24

on the right you have also a shipload of people

39:26

who show up because they want to have a fight, and

39:29

sometimes members of both groups get their wish.

39:31

But like the idea that this is terrorism

39:34

or anything but two groups who hate each other

39:36

fighting in the street um is pretty

39:38

ridiculous. And the number of assaults

39:40

that occur when the right wing demonstrators

39:43

aren't uh checked

39:45

by large scale groups of anti

39:47

fascists like those are the least

39:49

violent rallies when a shipload of anti

39:51

fascists show up uh and

39:53

just sort of drown them out, Like that's why on auguste

39:56

there was no serious violence. Um,

39:59

but so I mean in

40:01

comparison, how do the number of

40:05

people murdered by right

40:07

wing extremists compared to the number of people

40:09

murdered by Antifa. Well,

40:12

so far there's been zero people murdered by Antifa.

40:15

The closest thing you come to an attack carried

40:18

out by someone who marched with any of

40:20

those groups was, um, Willem Sprocken,

40:22

the guy who attacked those ICE buses.

40:25

Hey, everybody, I screwed up again. His

40:27

name was William van Spronson, not

40:29

Sprocken. Sorry, I'm dumb and

40:31

a hack and a fraud. And

40:34

he didn't kill anybody. He attempted

40:36

to destroy busses that were empty

40:39

to stop ICE from being able to deport people. He

40:42

was a guy who would yeah they they

40:44

shot. He did have a gun with him, you know. Uh,

40:47

yeah, that's

40:49

the closest you get to an Antifa attack with

40:51

a body count of zero, whereas

40:54

you know, uh, we're up to well

40:56

over a hundred right wing deaths in the last

40:58

year and change like death as there was ault of right wing

41:00

terrorists in the last year in Change and The police

41:02

have arrested twenty seven people since El Paso

41:05

for planning terrorist attacks,

41:07

the vast majority of whom had clear right wing and white

41:09

supremacist ties. Um.

41:12

Yeah, yeah, it's

41:14

weird. Yeah. I wonder how the

41:16

right would react if and

41:19

if killed a single person.

41:22

Well, and this is what's really worrying to me, is that

41:24

I suspect there absolutely will be

41:27

probably inspired by like environmental

41:30

activism, um, a deadly terrorist

41:32

attack in the near future. Um, you know,

41:34

maybe on oil and gas employees or something

41:36

like that. Um.

41:38

And when that happens, it's going to be

41:40

used as the justification for a vast

41:43

uh crackdown on left

41:45

wing activists, Whereas you

41:48

know, there's been essentially was

41:50

nothing done up until El Paso, you

41:52

know, after it took It took dozens

41:55

of right wing attacks for any

41:58

kind of crackdown to occur, and even then it's

42:00

been fairly mild. Um it's

42:02

frustrating, it is, I

42:05

would agree with that. Yeah. Hm.

42:09

So everybody look forward

42:11

to the eco terrorist attacks in our future.

42:14

Um, and uh,

42:16

keep an eye out for people like Andy No because

42:19

they're full of ship. Yeah.

42:21

All the pictures you when you just do a Google

42:23

image search of him. It's all him with like a

42:25

black guy appearing on various

42:28

news things and just looking very

42:31

uh, you know, beat down and

42:33

yeah victimy. It's just yeah,

42:36

he's uh. He talks about the victim

42:38

culture, the people claiming

42:41

to be victims, and that seems to

42:43

be his whole m Oh yeah,

42:47

that's he He really

42:49

like getting assaulted. Um

42:53

worked out very well for his career. I can say

42:55

that. Uh, you know, he made a quarter of a

42:57

million dollars in a matter of hours.

43:00

Uh, and you know, he's he's, he's

43:03

I don't know. I'd be interested to see his medical

43:05

reports. Um. Yeah.

43:08

I also suspect i'd be interested to

43:10

see if he gets charged as a result of any of the videos

43:12

that came out on cider Riot or

43:14

about sider Right. He doesn't doesn't say

43:16

really anything during those videos, but

43:18

he's present the entire time, and

43:21

UM, I don't know. It's it's very

43:23

like. I can say this as a guy who

43:26

frequently is on in filming

43:28

on the anti fascist side of things. If

43:30

I was embedded with a group

43:33

of these people and I heard them planning

43:35

to attack a bunch of people sitting

43:37

and chilling at a bar, and then one of the anti

43:39

fascists I was with, unprovoked,

43:42

broke a woman's spine. I

43:44

would report that ship because that would

43:46

be a serious crime and not Okay,

43:48

Uh, that's what you do as a journalist,

43:50

regardless of where your sympathies lie. And

43:53

I think Andy's performance during the

43:55

May Day attack is all

43:57

the evidence you need that he's not a journalist. Yeah.

44:01

I think that's pretty fair. Yeah,

44:05

hey, everybody, just one quick update.

44:07

Uh, Andy no no longer works at uh

44:10

Quilette. Um. Some people say he's

44:12

been fired. His name has certainly been removed from the

44:14

masthead. I think some of his articles have been purged.

44:17

Um. You know, his editor at his

44:19

former editor at Quilette says that he wasn't

44:21

laid off, that this was a plan departure. The timing

44:24

certainly seems a little bit

44:26

suspicious for that to have been the case.

44:28

But either way, he seems to be

44:30

currently unemployed, so we will see,

44:33

um whether or not his career recovers

44:35

from all this. Anyway,

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