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it's quite nice. Hey folks. What

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you are about to hear is an

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interview with my friend

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Anahata Ananda from Sedona.

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In the first part of this interview, you'll hear about

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her backstory and how she got into the

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unique form of breath

5:38

work and body alignment that she does

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down in Sedona and a little bit more

5:43

about this really cool event that

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her and I have partnered up on to

5:47

put on for you March tenth to

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the twelfth in Sedona. And I'll put all the

5:51

details for that at ben greenfield life dot

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com slash shine. Got

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a little bit I guess what I would describe

5:58

as awkward towards the end as

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my own Christian beliefs kinda

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clashed with some of the things that

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were originally planned for that event, like

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Tarek Card readings and

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some of the Reiki Healing and

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the Shamanic Healing Journeys. And

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some of the things that frankly I thought could

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potentially be confusing to

6:18

you too or or not really align

6:20

with your own beliefs. And I realize

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I have a wide range of listeners from a wide

6:24

variety of religious and spiritual backgrounds,

6:27

but I also have to be authentic to

6:30

my own beliefs. And so

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after we recorded this podcast, I talked with

6:34

Anahada, and we decided that as a part of this

6:36

big event that we're doing, we're actually

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going to make a couple of shifts just

6:41

to make this a little bit more

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in alignment with what I'm comfortable

6:45

with. So, Terecard

6:48

readings were originally a planned part

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of this event. And I'm not really

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convinced that Terecard readings and divination

6:55

are something that I want to be involved

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with. So instead, we're replacing

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that with guided heart brain alignment

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set You may have heard of heart rate variability training.

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You may have even heard of the Heart Math Institute,

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which is the place for

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research and practice of heart rate variability

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training. They're gonna have all their

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neurofeedback training equipment there that

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shows how to use software and monitoring

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to pair heartwave and

7:21

brainwave shifts with breathing and

7:23

meditation. Basically, you're gonna learn

7:25

how to achieve what's called heart brain

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coherence, which is an amazing ninja

7:29

skill. To have for life for

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managing your nervous system. So that's

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gonna be cool. The other thing that

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we are going to do is have

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a combination of what

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what's called well, it's it's called a cellular

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mind body reset session. So when

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you're at the event in the healing room space, there

7:46

are a shine, you're going to get to combine

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the biomass, headphones with Hemosync,

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for these deep rejuvenation sessions

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and we are replacing

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the Reiki atumments with tuckion

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energy rods with that. Again,

8:03

just to make it possibly a

8:05

little bit less woo woo and esoteric or

8:08

whatever you wanna call it, new a g, but

8:10

also a really fantastic experience

8:12

for you. So we made those shifts

8:14

after recording today's podcast. And

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I hope that makes those of you who are considering

8:19

coming to this event, coming to the VIP dinner

8:21

with and my family afterwards coming to Sedona

8:23

to hike in between a little bit more

8:25

palatable and interesting. And so

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all of that's gonna be at ben greenfieldlife dot

8:30

com. So slash shine. It's coming

8:33

up quick. March tenth through the twelfth. So

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get in. Will they get in as good as they say?

8:37

And I hope to see you

8:38

there. On hot it. I wanna welcome you

8:40

back to the show.

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Oh, as always, Ben, just

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when we weave together, it just

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brings a smile to my face. In and

8:50

warms my heart because we've had many journeys

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together. You've you've come to Sedona many

8:54

times and each time there's more

8:56

magic, there's more depth And

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it's been so beautiful to

9:02

watch your journey of transformation from

9:04

when we first met and

9:06

the shift in your energy as

9:09

you've been really showing up to do your inner

9:12

work, to create more internal

9:14

alignment, and the willingness

9:16

to go into shadow, to go

9:18

into imbalances

9:21

and make a course correction, humbly

9:24

grace graciously, courageously,

9:27

do the work, and that's one of the things that I really

9:29

appreciate about you you

9:31

that you go all in. And,

9:33

you know, not everybody does that, you know,

9:36

you you historically have done that for sure

9:38

with your fitness journey. And

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it's so beautiful to watch you integrate

9:44

emotional health and wellness

9:46

as well. Well, when I first met

9:48

you, I think I I limped into your office

9:50

as an iron man triathlete

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obsessed with exercise and

9:55

fitness and I think you

9:57

met me kinda early on in my

9:59

journey to realizing that that really wasn't

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the tipi top of the mountain. And so I've

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I've certainly learned a lot since then, but

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I remember after that first session with you just like going

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onto the hills behind your house and

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crying and sitting and

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asking myself a lot of tough questions. And

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so there's something about what you do

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that really opens people up in terms of

10:19

how they view themselves and the

10:21

the experience that they have

10:23

with your breath work. And so what

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I wanted ask you actually from the get go, because

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I don't think I've ever really dug into

10:31

on the podcast at least your

10:33

history. I mean, we've we've had epic barbecues

10:35

at your house, and we've had breath work sessions,

10:37

and we've talked a lot. But I wanna learn little

10:39

bit more about your background and where you came

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from and how you kinda came to develop the

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unique flavor of practice

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that you do now.

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For me, it was the dark night of the

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soul that catalyzed my awakening, which

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is similar and common for

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a lot of people that are on the healing and

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awakening journey is that it it often,

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it is a pain, it is a catalyst,

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it's a diagnosis, a divorce, a death,

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a trauma where you

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gotta do the work. And for me,

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it was you

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know, around two thousand a little

11:13

bit before that, where I was going

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through my dark night

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the soul. I was going through a

11:19

divorce, which I I call a marital liberation.

11:23

Would you would you call it a marital liberation?

11:25

Yeah. marital liberation. You

11:28

know, I had everything on paper, Ben,

11:30

beautiful home, more bathrooms

11:33

than people in the house, you know, a

11:35

big house and twins like

11:37

you, you know, twins, I have boy girl twins

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that at the time were two and a half.

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And I

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was not in the place my soul was meant to

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be. I had not done my inner

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healing work from trauma, from childhood, and

11:50

young adulthood. And

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I wasn't in alignment. There was

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a lot of sedating. There was a lot

11:56

of working. A lot of unconscious communication.

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In my relationship, a lot of blame, a lot

12:02

of acting out on both sides, and

12:05

it just crumbled. And

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in that process, I

12:09

had a choice and

12:12

I think what really happened is

12:14

that having twins at

12:17

at that point, when we were really divorcing,

12:19

they were about three. I was like, look,

12:21

if I don't get my shit together, it's

12:23

gonna flow downstream to my kids. Like,

12:26

if I don't make a change, if I don't do the

12:28

inner work, if I don't release this rage

12:30

and resentment and the guilt

12:32

and the sorrow about the loss that I make

12:34

experiencing right now, the

12:36

pattern of unresolved issues

12:39

from my family bloodline is going to get

12:41

passed on And I knew at

12:43

a heart and soul level that it was

12:45

gonna stop with me. However,

12:48

traditional therapies were not working.

12:51

When I was going through counseling for

12:53

our marriage. We were just

12:56

getting at the tip of the iceberg and

12:58

not at all dealing with the core issues.

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And, like, way way

13:03

too much in the shallow end that it was so frustrating

13:05

when we were just talking in circles and not getting

13:07

anywhere. And I'm like, I cannot. Shift

13:11

like this. This is not getting me anywhere. And so

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I sought out a Shamanic

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healer.

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Where were you living at the time? Were you interested?

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I was living in Southern California

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-- Okay. -- at the time, and

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a friend of mine recommended somebody in LA,

13:26

a Shamona Keeler in LA. And

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I said, hey, I am desperate. I

13:30

will try anything right now, and I was open

13:32

to alternative things. I was into yoga.

13:35

And I was learning And so

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I was really on this journey

13:39

of getting my health together, but

13:42

I I had it and I had quit

13:44

drinking which was a really valuable

13:46

choice. That was a real game changer

13:48

for me so that I was go when I was going

13:50

to the dark night, I didn't

13:52

have substance to lean on. And

13:55

so I felt the feelings instead of

13:57

numbing them, which meant there

13:59

was a lot of rage and sadness at the

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surface that then going into

14:03

single parenting, I was like, look, I've

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gotta release this for sure.

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And so when I went to my first, you know,

14:11

Shamanic healing journey with

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somebody in LA, who's

14:15

long since retired. This is, you know, this is

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twenty two years ago, twenty three years

14:20

ago. The first emotion

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that came Ben was

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rage. And what

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he did is he created a safe space

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for me to access that emotion

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without guilt or shame or oppressing

14:36

those feelings. Because I was pissed. I was

14:38

angry. I was hurt. But it wasn't

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just from the things that were happening in the marriage.

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It was from way before that, childhood

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things, young adult things, that

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had just been oppressed and

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didn't have a safe space to

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process. And

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after the rage moved, which I could consider

14:58

to be more fiery emotions, then

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the grief came, which I consider to be more

15:03

watery emotions, the sadness about

15:06

the loss, the disappointments about

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how I wanted it to be,

15:11

and the reality of

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the way it was. And so I

15:16

found that Shamanic healing

15:20

was profoundly impactful

15:23

in my journey. What I felt was

15:25

missing when I went to my practitioner

15:27

is that there was a lot of fire and

15:30

not a lot of softness. So

15:32

I also sought out other healers

15:34

that could bring tenderness and

15:37

gentleness for the watery parts,

15:39

for the wounded parts that

15:41

could help heal. There's

15:43

a there's a very powerful process

15:46

of the emotional release, the

15:49

anger, or the or the sadness.

15:51

But there's another piece that is

15:54

is really holding that tender

15:56

place of the wound so that

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it can

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heal.

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When

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you say a a Shamanic healing journey, what

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is that exactly? There's lot

16:04

of different forms of that.

16:06

This one was getting

16:08

on the table and this particular

16:10

healer working with different

16:13

queue, you know, questions and and

16:15

allowing my subconscious to bring

16:17

forward the answers. So different questions

16:19

he was using energy clearing techniques,

16:22

emotional release techniques

16:25

in my belly and different parts of my body.

16:28

To really get at the cellular trauma

16:30

that was held in the body.

16:32

So triggering, he purposely was

16:35

going into places that would

16:37

trigger the pain,

16:40

the anger, the feelings

16:43

in my body. And,

16:45

wow, he was so skillful. We

16:47

could get to there very quickly. And

16:50

so I released a lot of that in

16:52

that, but I felt like what was missing

16:55

was, hey, how

16:57

can we go hold that in in her

16:59

child? And be gentle now

17:01

with that part of you that is wounded. And

17:03

I think the next big piece is the integration

17:05

piece, which is Well, what are you

17:08

learning? What are you reestablishing? What

17:10

are you reclaiming that was

17:13

lost in that process? Is it your

17:15

voice? Is it your sovereignty?

17:17

Is it your into? Is it your

17:20

authenticity? What was lost in

17:22

that experience? The

17:25

trauma or the death,

17:27

the divorce, the diagnosis. What was

17:30

what created a fissure them? Because the

17:32

release is just part of it. Then there's

17:34

the tenderness of, like, it's

17:36

okay and the and the softness that

17:38

allows the healing. It's kinda like a mother

17:40

Mary vibration then. There's

17:43

the fiery Shamanic

17:44

Energy. Like, let's get it out.

17:46

And then

17:47

there's this okay. Let

17:49

me hold tenderness for

17:52

the sadness. And then there's another

17:54

p okay. The integration. What are you

17:56

reclaiming? What are you learning? What

17:58

are you stepping into? What are you gonna

18:00

do differently? Where is their forgiveness?

18:03

Where is their empowerment that

18:05

can come from this? And that's

18:08

that's really where the activation

18:10

happens. The release is just part of it

18:13

because now when you amend

18:15

the soil, a new seed can grow,

18:18

and wholeness is returned, power

18:21

grace intuition, is

18:23

returned. And from there,

18:26

that's really the catalyst for expansion and

18:28

growth. And that's that's why I that's why I the

18:30

work that I do, I call some angelic because

18:33

The shaman's not afraid to go into the

18:35

shadow and stir it up. And you know that

18:37

with our work together, like, I'm not

18:39

afraid to go into the darkness. I'm not afraid

18:41

to be honest about it. I'm not afraid to face

18:44

the fears. Whatever we meet there

18:46

can be addressed. With

18:48

consciousness and with tenderness and

18:51

with courage. And whatever's

18:54

on the other side of that can also

18:56

be met with compassion

18:59

and forgiveness and grace,

19:02

then alright. What are

19:05

we gonna do differently? What's gonna

19:07

change? Yeah. So so for you in in

19:09

terms of change, like, you you went through this whole,

19:11

like, healing journey when

19:13

did you actually start to to

19:15

teach this stuff? Or, you know, become

19:17

an instructor in the stuff? Was it right off the bat that you

19:19

started spreading this to others? Or or

19:21

what did that look like?

19:23

First of all, I dove into

19:25

my own healing. I went full

19:27

force, not unlike yourself, is

19:30

like, I was hitting that, you

19:32

know, demonic healing journeys,

19:34

breathworks, ceremonies. I

19:36

went full on in pulling

19:40

towards me the books,

19:42

the teachers, the content, the

19:44

ceremonies that really started

19:47

going after my whole body healing. went

19:50

into yoga, went to fasting

19:52

and cleansing, neuro linguistic

19:54

programming, meditation, working

19:57

with different shamans on the land,

19:59

Peru, and North America.

20:01

And the truth is that whole situation

20:04

catalyzed my soul path because I

20:06

I was like, I wanna study this. I wanna

20:08

learn this. I don't want this just for myself.

20:11

I was collecting so many tools from

20:13

and different modalities. And

20:15

I started putting them together and

20:19

then I started training in those modalities

20:21

because it was a calling And very

20:24

quickly, when I started training with different

20:26

shamans and different spiritual teachers

20:28

and master healers, in

20:30

emotional clearing, spiritual connection,

20:33

meditation, yoga, all

20:35

of these different things. It started to connect

20:37

with me. It started to really deeply

20:40

land and my healing gifts

20:42

started to turn on when I cleaned up

20:44

my physical body, my emotional

20:46

body, my mental body. My

20:49

energy body and my spiritual body

20:52

simultaneously. I

20:54

was going after the cleansing of all

20:56

of those things, which is really clearing all

20:58

of the chakras to come back

21:00

into alignment. What happened when

21:02

I did that is that I decalcified

21:05

my pineal and my pituitary glands

21:08

which are responsible for higher consciousness.

21:11

And what happened in that space is

21:13

Clairevoyance being able to see,

21:15

Claire Audience being able to hear,

21:17

clear cognizance being able to know

21:19

and clear sentence being able to

21:21

feel, all kicked on

21:23

for me simultaneously. So it wasn't

21:26

just that I was training in these

21:28

different modalities. I was having access

21:30

to soul blueprint

21:32

and consciousness that was able

21:34

to come in and help guide

21:37

those modalities in

21:39

an intuitive, spiritually

21:41

guided way. And so the

21:44

my gifts turned back on that had

21:46

been dormant for decades. And so

21:48

it was really fast tracked. And,

21:50

you know, that's when you do it all simultaneous. Like

21:53

physical, mental, emotional, spiritual, and

21:55

energetic. It's really exciting.

21:58

And that's how I roll I just

22:00

went after it and and the change,

22:03

the amplification, the acceleration happened

22:06

really fast for me. And so

22:08

I was learning all kinds of different things.

22:11

And then I started my

22:13

own healing practice where I was starting

22:16

with what I call chamangelic healing journeys

22:19

over twenty years ago. And

22:22

breath work I was trained in

22:24

different breath work modalities, and so I started

22:27

facilitating breath work and private healing

22:29

sessions. And I opened up a full time practice,

22:31

and I've been doing it for for

22:33

over two decades now guiding

22:36

tens of thousands of people through this process.

22:39

You mentioned a couple of things as

22:41

you're describing your history and how you came to

22:43

to practice the unique form of of

22:46

breath work and healing that you do

22:47

now. When it was about the pineal gland, you you mentioned

22:49

that you you declassified your pineal gland.

22:51

What's that mean exactly? So one

22:53

of the things when we are

22:56

asleep, meaning that

22:58

we're not activate we're not fully

23:00

activating our higher consciousness. So

23:03

the pineal gland, which

23:05

is associated with the

23:07

six, the chakra, it

23:10

gets calcified from diet.

23:13

It it it it gets calcified from

23:16

lack of use.

23:19

And like a muscle that's not being used,

23:21

it's like a pipe that just kind of begins to

23:23

clog. Yeah. And by the

23:25

way, I've heard that fluoride is huge issue

23:28

too with calcification in the pineal gland,

23:30

like like they've done studies. think most of studies are like

23:32

rodent studies, but they've found that when

23:34

they'll put animals on a fluoride free diet,

23:37

that they see like this regrowth of

23:39

pineal gland cells and that in humans

23:42

who consume a lot of fluoride and also a lot

23:44

of chlorine. Like, it exposed a lot of chlorine there

23:46

seems to be an issue with things like

23:48

melatonin production. Right? This really powerful

23:50

antioxidant and and sleep enhancing

23:53

molecule that the pineal gland is largely

23:55

responsible for producing that

23:57

doesn't happen in the case of this calcification.

24:00

And it's it's really interesting that's

24:02

it it develops like these calcium spots.

24:04

You know, the same way as you can get, like, a calcium scan

24:06

score of your heart valves or your joints or,

24:09

like, breast tissue and women. That that's another problem.

24:11

But is really interesting that that

24:13

the diet plays such a key role in

24:15

this this pineal Calcification,

24:17

and you described how it's associated

24:20

with the with the six chakra. So it it

24:22

can impact things like insight,

24:24

your ability to meditate, your ability to focus,

24:27

like, there's a lot that goes on when you when you don't care

24:29

for that Glen. I just don't think a lot of people are aware

24:31

they got to take care of it and aware that the huge

24:34

role the huge

24:35

role, but that fluoride can play

24:37

in chlorine secondarily in that calcification

24:39

process? Yeah, the pineal

24:42

is connect to the crown, and that

24:44

is our connected to divine

24:46

consciousness, our five d self.

24:48

And so exactly

24:50

like you said, with different substances, different

24:54

pollutants, it can get calcified if

24:56

we're not meditating and using that

24:58

channel. In other words, putting water

25:00

through that pipe on a daily basis,

25:02

then it also begins to calcify. If

25:04

we're not detoxifying it

25:07

with breath, and with meditation

25:10

and we're not getting blood flow to that

25:12

area and literally calcified

25:15

thoughts. That's why I say it's also the mental

25:17

body because when we're in this

25:19

place where our glands,

25:21

the pineal and pituitary glands, are

25:24

being triggered by rage and

25:26

trauma, we have a different chemical

25:29

makeup in our brain, which

25:31

correlates to a different chemical makeup

25:33

in our neural nervous

25:35

system and our physical cellular

25:38

body, it's all connected.

25:40

And so when I was starting to

25:42

cleanse the physical

25:45

body, with all

25:47

kinds of different facet fasting when I started

25:49

to cleanse the emotional body

25:51

with letting go of rage and anger and sadness

25:54

and grief, then the

25:56

energy starts to flow. When I started meditating

25:58

and doing daily breath

25:59

work, now I'm opening those channels

26:02

that can connect to higher consciousness.

26:04

Yeah. The the other one, by the way, in addition

26:06

to meditation, breath work that I think could be

26:09

really helpful for the pineal gland. One, while

26:11

there's two things that I know of, one is

26:13

a lot of these electrical modalities, like like electrical

26:15

medicine is kind of like a big up

26:18

and coming modality that that could be

26:20

pretty effective, like the old school right frequencies

26:22

that you see produced by some of these modern devices

26:24

like a bio charger or

26:26

there's a company called aimmortal that has one called

26:28

a catalyst. The electrical frequencies

26:31

seem to do a really good job activating the

26:33

pineal gland. Like, I have a bio charger, for example,

26:35

you can set it in pineal gland

26:38

mode, and it apparently helps

26:40

to via electrical signals,

26:42

decalcify the pineal gland but

26:44

then the other one is light.

26:47

Like, they've actually dissected pineal glands

26:49

and found they have a photoreceptors on

26:51

them that get activated by light.

26:53

And so when light isn't getting reflected from

26:55

the retina, particularly like the brilliance of

26:57

of sunlight, you know, people wear lot of sunglasses

27:00

is they're indoors a lot. Maybe they've never really

27:02

experimented with sun gazing or

27:04

large amounts of natural light exposure during the

27:06

day. All of that seems to also impact

27:09

the pineal gland. And of course,

27:11

the big issue besides being able

27:14

to meditate and being able to

27:16

to almost like focus in that state of

27:18

meditation and produce important

27:20

biochemicals like, you know, dimethyltryptamine,

27:23

you know, DMT. The other thing

27:25

that can happen with the pineal blind

27:27

calcification is a little bit of insomnia,

27:30

like a lot of sleep deficits, and then migraines,

27:32

like both of those can be heavily related

27:34

to pineal gland calcification.

27:36

This is all part of the healing journey.

27:39

Is stepping out

27:41

of the calcification,

27:45

the toxification that has happened

27:47

from emotional as

27:49

well as physical toxins. And

27:51

trauma. And if we're not clearing those out of the body,

27:54

over time, they stay. That's

27:56

part of the journey is moving

27:58

that out of the body, emotionally and energetically,

28:01

with breath work and other things, taking

28:03

care of the physical body, yes,

28:06

sun gazing, yes, breath work yes,

28:08

meditation, yes, different

28:10

breathing techniques that balance

28:12

the left and right hemispheres of the brain.

28:15

Yes to all of that. And what that

28:17

does, it it and activates our

28:19

higher self, our higher consciousness

28:22

when we're trapped in the emotional

28:24

and energetic bodies of the trauma

28:27

that becomes a block that doesn't allow

28:29

us to experience higher states of love,

28:31

higher states of joy, and

28:33

vitality, and vibrant health. And so

28:36

that's why it shows this

28:39

route instead of kind of

28:41

more Western psychotherapy.

28:44

Is because I really wanted to get

28:47

deep and emotionally and energetically

28:49

cleanse. And and that's that's

28:52

where I I'm so excited to

28:54

go into those deeper places with people one

28:56

on one or in group settings to say, hey,

28:59

if you are ready to step

29:01

into truth if you are ready to feel the

29:03

fullest capacity of love. If you are

29:05

wanting to return back

29:08

wholeness and to embrace your soul's

29:10

fullest potential, we've got to

29:12

go in and do some cleanup. And

29:14

most of us have some residue because

29:16

we're We're not trained in

29:18

western society to clean

29:21

as we go, to forgive

29:23

as we go, to grieve as

29:25

we go, and to have

29:28

a safe space for anger,

29:30

rage, or sadness to

29:33

be processed. And I think this is one of

29:35

the most powerful things that is happening

29:37

now is that there is

29:39

this openness and more of a common

29:42

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29:44

and talking about emotional release

29:47

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29:51

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29:54

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29:56

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30:00

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30:02

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when you talk especially about breath and

35:38

the pineal gland is that you

35:40

know how how in many forms of breath work

35:42

you will do like that giant

35:44

inhale where you squeeze everything

35:47

like the pelvis all the way up to

35:49

the fist, the arms, the shoulders, the

35:51

neck, the jaw, and kind of shoot

35:53

all the energy up the top of the head.

35:55

That type of of pressure on

35:57

the pineal gland I think can introduce. And

36:00

this is all hypothetical, but I

36:02

feel like there's this increase in blood

36:04

flow that occurs to that area, you know, whether you

36:06

want to call the pineal gland or the third eye

36:08

chakra or whatever, that's really

36:10

beneficial for a lot of people. I I think a lot

36:12

of people don't get that deep inhale on

36:14

a regular basis, especially people who don't do

36:16

breath work that often. But I think it's

36:19

it's almost like stimulating to the

36:21

pineal gland, and it's something like,

36:23

for example, my family gathers for meditation

36:25

about seven, seven thirty each morning, and

36:28

we will typically listen to or

36:30

read devotional We'll pray.

36:32

We'll read some scripture. We'll breathe a little while

36:34

together, but we always finish with this one

36:37

big huge giant breath. Up up up

36:39

up to the top of the head. We hold it. We squeeze

36:41

it. And then we let go with this audible

36:43

vocal tone. And sometimes we aren't doing

36:45

a lot of breath work besides just that final

36:48

deep breath in, but it just

36:50

feels like it it changes the approach

36:52

to the day in terms of just your focus,

36:55

your mental stability, your

36:57

resistance to stress, and it I mean, it's only,

36:59

like, maybe twenty seconds that that inhale

37:01

is held up to the top of the head.

37:03

But even something as simple as that, you know, if you have

37:06

a breath work practice really focusing on that that

37:08

process on the inhale, squeezing everything

37:10

up to the top of the

37:11

head. That seems to help out quite a bit with some

37:13

of that pineal gland activity.

37:15

Yeah, I found in studying different

37:17

breathing techniques that the

37:20

yogic path that this

37:22

is called kumbakha, which

37:24

is a breath hold. And I also learned

37:27

it from my Shamanic teacher

37:29

as well with breath work

37:31

And when we talk about breath work, it's

37:33

a big category because we have

37:36

more of the yogic breathing that can be

37:38

nadi Shoden, which is balancing

37:40

the left and right hemispheres of the brain

37:43

when your alternate nostril breathing.

37:45

That's different than shamanic

37:47

breath work, which is really

37:50

diaphragmatic and deep, powerful

37:53

inhales and exhales to accentiate

37:56

and potentiate the oxygen

37:58

flow to the brain so that

38:00

it can access that subconscious

38:04

beliefs subconscious trauma, which

38:06

then triggers the body to

38:09

find that in where it's held

38:11

physically. And also, if

38:14

it's facilitated in a safe container,

38:17

then permission and freedom to access

38:19

what emotion or energy is

38:21

held or expression whether

38:23

the voice was suppressed. And that's

38:25

more of of like

38:28

holotropic or diaphragmatic chimonic

38:31

breath work journeys a little bit different

38:33

than calming the

38:36

mind for Which

38:38

is really taking you more into

38:40

the parasympathetic. I've

38:42

learned with the breath walk that you're talking about,

38:44

I use it in two different places. One,

38:47

I found it really valuable and

38:49

do this in the morning with my meditation is

38:51

I do a lot of quick

38:54

fire breaths before meditation, you

38:57

know, which is called breath of fire or kapalapati

39:00

in India, and this is fast

39:03

diaphragmatic breathing and then

39:06

an inhale and

39:09

a hold and you're absolutely

39:12

holding in your perineum or

39:14

your root, the the pelvic floor, your

39:17

throat, and your solar

39:19

plexus, your belly, your diaphragm. And

39:21

what that does absolutely is it shoots it

39:24

up to the top of

39:26

the crown, and it hyper oxygenates

39:28

there. And what that does is

39:30

it absolutely clears the

39:32

mind. It makes it so much easier

39:34

for me to go into a deeper meditation when I

39:36

do that kumbakha, that breath hold,

39:39

For exactly like you said, maybe it's ten seconds,

39:41

twenty seconds. And then when you slowly

39:44

exhale, your mind is in

39:46

a different state and I found deeper

39:48

meditation that's there. But I also

39:50

use it in breath work when I'm

39:52

doing journeys. For the Schomerangelic breath

39:55

work journey, we're doing a lot of deep

39:57

inhales and exhales to really

40:00

get the oxygen ratio to

40:02

shift to unlock that unconscious memory

40:06

and belief systems, emotional and energy

40:08

that's blocked and hidden from

40:10

sight. And then at different

40:13

times during that, I will guide

40:15

a breath lock.

40:16

That has a deep inhale and exhale, a

40:18

deep inhale and exhale and on the third one,

40:20

it's held,

40:22

a deep inhale and hold. And what that's

40:24

doing, it's absolutely blasting that

40:27

pituitary for the sixth chakra and

40:29

the pineal for the seventh. And

40:32

it absolutely open up

40:34

those channels. Now for

40:36

truth, divinity, peace,

40:38

healing, love, whatever is needed

40:41

to bring wholeness back to the body.

40:43

That's where a whole another level of healing is happening

40:46

I've found is when you clear out the

40:48

emotional density, Then

40:50

after a while in the breath work journey,

40:53

go to that breath lock. Now

40:55

we're getting into the higher states of consciousness.

40:57

But if we go right to that first,

41:00

we've missed the opportunity to clear those

41:02

lower emotional dense energy centers.

41:05

So I think it's very vital to do

41:08

the deep emotional release first,

41:10

like clear the pipes and

41:12

then open with a breath lock

41:15

to allow in wholeness truth

41:17

intuition, grace, healing,

41:20

love, peace, whatever's needed to bring

41:22

one back to wholeness

41:23

again. We're

41:24

talking about breath work a little bit, and

41:26

I would love to take a little bit of

41:28

deeper dive into what you do during

41:31

your breath work sessions. But before we do, I I

41:33

should also note that in addition

41:36

to that practice that I do with the family

41:38

where it's pretty simple. We just have that one

41:40

breath in and a breath out. My sons

41:42

and I have been using a few different apps particularly

41:44

one called other shit to do breath work on regular

41:47

basis. For a few reasons, I think it's really good for

41:49

a young human to just learn how to control their

41:51

physiology with their breath. I'd, you know, I've said this

41:53

perform podcasts. I think it should be a core

41:55

part of any young human's curriculum to learn

41:57

how to use their breath to up regulate or

41:59

down regulate their nervous system. But

42:01

we're also preparing for this fun fatherson

42:04

free diving slash spear phishing trip

42:06

in April. And I know that that's also gonna be important

42:09

in terms of them being comfortable with things

42:11

like in hunger and blowing off C02

42:13

and having longer retention times, etcetera.

42:16

And so on a a few days of the week,

42:18

I'm taking them through anywhere from

42:20

twenty to forty five minute breath work sessions

42:22

usually in the sauna for a little bit of extra

42:25

heat stimulus. But then what

42:27

I also do in the mornings pretty

42:29

early And this this has been like a new practice

42:31

of mine, but I want to share it just where on the

42:33

topic of breath work, is I'll

42:35

put on a really nice

42:38

channel. Typically, I use Spotify.

42:40

Like, there's one I like called soaking worship.

42:42

And so I'll put on the soaking worship channel.

42:44

And then I do

42:46

about one to two minutes of box breathing.

42:49

And then after I've done those one to two minutes

42:51

of box breathing, I'll start into

42:53

three to four rounds of like that more

42:55

intense, you know, almost like Wim Hof

42:58

esque breath work where it's fully

43:00

in, letting go, fully in,

43:02

letting go, fully in, letting

43:04

go. Typically for thirty to forty breaths,

43:06

you know, you kinda get to that point where the fingertips

43:08

get a little tingly from the onset of nitric

43:10

oxide and blowing off the C02,

43:13

and then I'll take one deep, deep, deep,

43:15

deep breath in and then exhale

43:17

everything and hold it and just sit

43:19

in the silence. And and during that exhale

43:21

hold, I'll pray, I'll listen to

43:23

the voice of God, I'll meditate. I'll

43:26

dwell on things like my plans for the day,

43:28

etcetera. And then I finish with

43:30

this giant inhale and I'll hold

43:32

that as long as possible. And sometimes that's as long

43:34

as like over a minute and then

43:36

go back into my normal breathing. And

43:38

I do that three times. And

43:41

this has become like a daily morning practice

43:43

for me. And then I finish

43:45

with my own personal prayer time.

43:48

And there's something about breath work that

43:50

just shifts you into prayer.

43:53

That's that's just this seamless transition

43:55

that's that's super special. And so

43:58

for me, it's this really cool practice where

44:00

I've got the soaking worship channel I've got

44:02

the box breathing starting and then I go into

44:04

the Wim Hof and then I finish with a prayer

44:07

that means that during that practice, I'm getting

44:09

three of those intense, long

44:12

breath locks. And so it's

44:14

a great morning practice. just wanted to

44:17

share with folks who are on the topic of breath work, kind

44:19

of little bit of rabbit hole. I haven't been

44:21

to your new sewing facility now that's been completed.

44:23

Right? So I've I've done all my breath work at your

44:25

home office, you know, where you have this

44:27

basement that's got all of your healing tools

44:30

and your instruments and, you know, the the

44:32

mats that people lay on and everything, which

44:34

I'm assuming you've you've recreated something

44:37

like that at the new Schein facility

44:39

down there, but I would love for

44:41

you to walk people through what

44:43

the actual breath work session with

44:46

you looks like as far as, like, the

44:48

different instruments that you're using and the different

44:50

tools and different tactics because It's

44:52

just it's really unique, and I've never walked out

44:54

of an experience with you without

44:57

feeling, you know, kinda like I

44:59

do after my home breath work sessions, but

45:01

probably times you know, at least

45:03

like three or four in terms of the openness

45:06

and the new thoughts and the new ideas and

45:08

a lot of the stuff people look for in breath work. So

45:10

walk me through what's going on during a typical breath work

45:12

session with you?

45:14

Yes. Shine has everything.

45:17

The sanctuary space there facilitating

45:20

in that. The sanctuary is

45:23

incredible. There are

45:25

fourteen foot golden wings

45:28

in a spiral of the

45:31

flower and the seed of life

45:33

sacred geometry on the wall. There's

45:36

angels, ascended masters, spiritual

45:39

guides, and habiting, protecting,

45:41

and guiding that space. There's crystals

45:43

not only displayed, but built into

45:46

the walls. It's a high frequency venue

45:49

to facilitate Calcification,

45:51

healing, and spiritual awakening. And

45:54

I I'm so excited to have everybody

45:56

there when you come in March. And

45:58

with what's exciting about when you come

46:00

in March is that you're

46:02

going to be teaching and demonstrating

46:05

and guiding the whole group through these kinds of breathing

46:07

techniques that you're talking about so

46:09

that people can experience it real

46:12

time. So I'm super excited about that.

46:15

What is unique about what I call

46:17

chamangelic breath work? First

46:19

of all, there's multiple things

46:21

that you've experienced with me and that other

46:23

people experience when they have a journey like

46:25

this is safety,

46:28

integrity, and

46:30

trust. The container that

46:33

is held by the facilitator and the venue

46:35

is imperative so

46:38

that the individual feels

46:41

held seen is

46:44

safe and can trust

46:46

the process that they are being

46:48

guided by the facilitator for

46:51

the highest good and that

46:54

they can be safe in their vulnerability, that

46:56

they could go into those shadow spaces

46:59

that they've never shared with anybody or that

47:02

there hasn't been able to be the environment

47:05

that allows for deep peeling or deep release.

47:07

And so I think that that starts

47:10

from the very beginning is building that

47:12

rapport with somebody and

47:14

permission to feel the feels

47:16

without judgment, without oppression, permission

47:19

to express, rage, and

47:21

anger, or sadness without

47:24

any repercussions. And

47:27

the skill, I feel

47:31

what it what differentiates what

47:33

I facilitate is that

47:35

there is a very deep

47:38

presence with each individual It's

47:41

not just putting on a great playlist and

47:43

shaking a rattle. That's not it.

47:46

That's lovely. However,

47:48

The real transformation happens when you

47:50

have the ability to move into

47:52

somebody's energy field without

47:54

losing your own and being

47:56

in complete presence with

47:58

reading the energy field of what is

48:01

needed. Do they need

48:03

a hand to be held? Do

48:05

they need a whisper that says

48:07

you're safe here? Do they

48:10

need a hand on the shoulder? Or

48:13

an emotional clearing technique

48:15

that is catalyzing

48:18

the release of a trauma and

48:20

emotion or an oppression somehow.

48:23

And the ability to read that doesn't

48:25

come easy or natural to everybody, and

48:27

it takes skill and practice and some people

48:29

have gifts. But are not trusting

48:31

them. Some people are making

48:33

a playlist, but do not know how

48:36

to move seamlessly with

48:39

integrity, with presence, and

48:42

with a range that

48:44

can meet somebody and catalyze

48:47

rage and help it

48:49

to move out and also know

48:51

how to move into the softer field

48:54

that's more mother Mary that is

48:56

What they need right now is just to be

48:58

held in a little child's pose

49:01

in a way in which they've never felt held

49:03

before. And that takes a lot of

49:05

skill and ability to read

49:07

it when somebody's going through their

49:09

process and their journey. And know

49:11

how to catalyze a deeper

49:13

experience. And that takes that's the

49:16

one on one work. And

49:18

being able to go into shadow and also

49:21

as masterfully into the light

49:23

and into the heart and to know what

49:25

will need to be tailored

49:28

for a deeper experience

49:31

for the person that's receiving.

49:33

Yeah. And you say rage, I think sometimes it

49:35

can also just be, like, pent up emotions, angst,

49:37

you know, a lot of extra energy that

49:39

you just kind of breathe off. Yeah. Stress basically.

49:42

Where do the the instruments that you

49:44

use come in? Tell me little bit about that.

49:47

The main instrument is the

49:49

facilitator. The clear

49:51

I am, the clear

49:53

the facilitator is, then

49:55

the instrument that is used, the touch,

49:58

the words, the

50:00

rattle the drum is an extension of

50:02

that, first of all, because

50:04

it isn't the drum, it isn't

50:07

the rattle, it isn't the tuning fork

50:09

that is doing the healing, it is the

50:11

intention and the pure frequency of the person

50:14

that is utilizing that.

50:16

So when I do my training and I've

50:19

been training people on these modalities for

50:21

over a decade is to really

50:23

keep fine tuning the individual instrument so

50:25

that I'm coming from love and presence first of

50:27

all, so that I know what

50:30

instrument, whether it's my

50:32

voice or touch or a drum,

50:35

or a tuning fork will

50:37

potentiate the journey deeper. So

50:40

that's first and foremost is tuning

50:42

the individual instruments so that there is divine

50:45

guidance to know what tool to

50:47

use. When we're in that

50:49

Shamanic release I

50:51

love the rattle. I love the drum because

50:54

those are more primal sounds.

50:57

So those are great for chewing

50:59

out heaviness, stress,

51:02

anxiety, resentment. Those

51:05

are really beautiful for clearing. Along

51:08

with what I use as a a clearing

51:10

mist that I've made that has Palisanto

51:13

and

51:13

Leningras.

51:14

Yeah. Remember, that feels really nice. It

51:16

does. And it's wonderful. Those

51:19

sense specifically are great

51:21

in the shadow realms when you're clearing

51:23

out density. And so

51:26

those are used and woven

51:28

individually. And, like,

51:30

when when I've done breath work for you and Angelo,

51:33

as an example, with two

51:35

people side by side, both of you are having

51:37

different journeys. So I might

51:39

use the rattle on you

51:41

and then I'm as I'm holding space

51:44

with somebody else, then I get it's

51:46

a complete blank slate.

51:48

What do they need? And then

51:50

what tool would be best right now? So

51:53

when we're working in more of the tender

51:55

spaces, in the heart,

51:58

when we're doing hard feeling.

52:00

I love the tuning fork right on the

52:02

heart. I love the scent of

52:05

rose, which is more feminine

52:07

and sweet and gentle, and

52:10

that bring and the touch is soft.

52:13

The sounds might be a little angelic

52:16

chime, something soft and

52:18

tender that really allows

52:21

that like,

52:23

sweet reset. Totally different,

52:26

and that might happen ten seconds

52:28

apart, moving from one person's

52:30

energy field which might be

52:32

the rattle and the drum to release

52:35

density and then shifting over

52:38

to honoring somebody's tears

52:40

and the tone of voice would completely

52:43

change them because now we're in

52:45

this place of, okay, sweetie. It's okay.

52:48

Let it out. You're safe here. And so

52:50

then the instrument would be the voice

52:53

or the touch or how

52:55

one is holding. And sometimes,

52:58

like you were saying, the tingling at the bottom of

53:00

your fingers, when there's that hyper

53:02

oxygenating, it might be very

53:05

this role, it might be very

53:07

cellular. The

53:09

density that might be held might

53:11

be creating cramping in the body

53:14

it might be a pain

53:16

in the neck. And so sometimes,

53:19

peace and calming the essential oil

53:22

and different touch helps people release

53:24

stress and anxiety and fear,

53:27

which is different than rage

53:30

or grief. It's

53:33

attention that is like, where

53:35

could you soften? And

53:38

so that might be essential

53:40

oils that help people relax and

53:42

get out of angst. So

53:45

the tools that is

53:47

it's nice and what I teach is hey,

53:49

let's have this range of

53:52

tools from essential oils, voice,

53:54

touch, emotional clearing, drums,

53:57

rattles, crystal bulls,

53:59

gongs that can all potentiate

54:02

a different experience if

54:04

you are skilled at reading

54:07

what somebody needs in a given moment.

54:09

Right. Right. Yeah. And you mentioned Angelo

54:11

and I, by the way, just so people know Angelo

54:13

is my co founder and CEO at the

54:15

supplements company, Keon, and we actually

54:17

went down hiking and doing a

54:20

bunch of business meetings down in Sedona. But as a

54:22

part of that, we dropped into see Anahada

54:24

and did this full, like, ninety minute

54:26

intense breath work session with her.

54:28

And, yeah, I'm sure you remember this on Ahada.

54:31

We were, like, greaming at the top of our lungs

54:33

at certain points. We were sharing these

54:35

these amazing ideas we had for the

54:37

company throughout. We we just had

54:39

the creative portals ripped wide open.

54:42

And actually, if you look at the

54:44

the current key on logo on the

54:46

bottles, all these like energy swoops and

54:48

this idea, taking your next step in

54:50

life and the idea of weaving

54:53

energy signatures, energetic signatures

54:55

onto each bottle and onto the website. Like,

54:58

all of that stems from

55:00

the creativity that we generated. I

55:02

remember, like, after our breath work session with you, we

55:04

went on like a three hour hike the next morning just

55:06

talking about all the ideas we had

55:08

during the session. And so it seems to

55:10

just be this really cool way to

55:13

tap into creative portals in

55:15

a way that honestly, I think a lot of people rely

55:17

on drugs to do, you know, like they'll go do

55:19

Ayahuasca or or smokes in

55:22

DMT or maybe use some psilocybin or

55:24

whatever, but, you know, we did

55:26

all this, you know, drug free, substance

55:28

free, just using the breath. And it was

55:30

a really cool experience. I actually wanted to

55:32

ask you, do you do much of that type

55:34

of work, like, with companies or corporations or

55:36

businesses who wanna, like, bring their

55:39

teams in for breath work with you or ever ever

55:41

thought about doing something like that?

55:43

Absolutely. And, you know, first

55:45

of all, I really wanna acknowledge that

55:48

on your business strategy

55:51

session that you chose not

55:53

to just be in a conference room in Hilton

55:55

in Phoenix, but you chose

55:57

to be on the land. You chose to do

56:00

Shamanic clearing work. You chose to

56:02

clear out your vessel and

56:05

do that with your business partner. So

56:07

that that way together, you could be

56:09

more open to allow creative energy

56:11

to come through. That's what's the real the

56:14

real benefit I think,

56:17

the the real pearl is

56:19

when you come out of the breath work,

56:22

not just having released the energy,

56:24

but then through that

56:26

process of alignment and connecting

56:28

to divine, creative inspiration, divine

56:31

intuition, like all of these

56:34

things, visions, ideas, the

56:36

truth about something perspective change.

56:39

That is a treasure chest

56:42

of gold right there. Of

56:44

of like, oh, wow. This is

56:46

this is the way I should go. And and I remember

56:49

when you came when you guys came out of that,

56:51

Well, in the journey, I'm laughing because

56:53

in the journey, there was yelling

56:56

and screaming. There was laughter. There

56:58

was singing. There was crying and

57:00

all within an hour. That's the

57:02

beauty of this and the

57:05

connection that happened with the both of you

57:07

after that. So I love working

57:10

with groups, with families. In fact, we're

57:12

gonna do your whole you're gonna we're gonna do this with

57:14

your whole family when you come in March.

57:16

Yeah. I'm I'm looking forward to bringing my

57:18

my sons and my wife through the through

57:20

the live experience, so to speak. So

57:22

and and that that actually leads me to another question.

57:24

Like, my wife and I we've actually been

57:27

using some of these breath work

57:29

sessions in this app called othership. They're

57:31

like couple sessions. They're about a half hour.

57:33

And we use them, you know,

57:36

perhaps a little bit of of TMI for some listeners,

57:38

but we basically use them for foreplay. Right?

57:40

Like, on on a night where we really

57:42

just wanna drop in four secs and

57:44

connect really deeply. We'll play

57:46

this thirty minute session. Usually, you're lying beside

57:49

each other in bed. Sometimes, you're like sitting

57:51

with your legs intertwined, eyes

57:54

locked, almost like breathe, like, she'll breathe

57:57

out into my mouth, all breathe out into her mouth,

57:59

and then in other times during the session.

58:01

We're lying side by side on the bed holding hands,

58:04

and we're both doing like the inhale lock holds and

58:06

the exhales. And as

58:08

you would guess by the time we finish thirty minutes of

58:10

that, we're we're extremely ready to

58:12

go on to the next phase of love

58:14

making But this idea of

58:16

couples breath work is actually really

58:18

cool. I mean, like, it's right up there with, like, our quarterly

58:21

planning retreats and our date nights as far as

58:23

something that really brings us close

58:24

together. Have you ever done much with with

58:26

couples in that space also?

58:28

Yeah. So one of the things that you're talking

58:30

about is, like, tantric breeding practices.

58:33

Yeah. Yeah. I guess that's what you call it. It's like a tantric

58:35

reading practice. That's exactly what it is. And

58:37

so those are different ways to

58:40

weave, inhale, and exhale,

58:42

and synchronize your breathing. And

58:45

this is really what it comes down to,

58:47

whether it's individuals, couples,

58:50

families, or businesses,

58:53

this is about internal attunement

58:57

so that then whether it's love making

58:59

or as a parent or in your business

59:02

in your personal professional life, you

59:04

are attuned, you are aware, you

59:06

are connected to whatever

59:09

task comes next, whether that's business planning,

59:11

or date night. Whether that

59:13

is creative troubleshooting, you

59:16

know, a challenge within the family or the

59:18

finances or your health, more

59:21

of you and more consciousness is

59:23

available and accessible. That's

59:26

exciting because now we're living on purpose.

59:28

And we're able to solve troubleshoot

59:31

and amplify in the direction

59:33

that we want because we're all connected

59:36

and there's internal alignment And

59:38

so you're absolutely right about tantric

59:40

practices and breeding practices being

59:42

able to bring people into alignment. Answer

59:45

your question about doing that with corporate, you know,

59:47

with different companies. Aubrey

59:49

is one of those that the company

59:51

culture is, yeah, let's work on our shit

59:54

and be the best versions of

59:55

ourselves.

59:55

Yeah. You mean, I'll I'll I'll bring I'll bring Markets

59:58

from on it. I'll bring Markets from on

1:00:00

it. And so he would fly me out

1:00:02

to Austin to

1:00:04

work with his whole c suite because that's

1:00:06

the company culture. Is

1:00:08

to, hey, do your inner work so

1:00:10

the best version of you can show up so

1:00:12

that that way they can

1:00:15

be amplified in running the business

1:00:17

upon it. He would have his

1:00:19

teams come out here to the branch in

1:00:21

Austin, and he would send different employees out

1:00:24

here to do that kind of work.

1:00:26

And different sub teams would come out

1:00:28

and do that kind of work because that's the company

1:00:30

culture. Not every company has

1:00:32

that culture, and

1:00:35

what I said earlier about it being a safe

1:00:37

space. Sometimes if you're

1:00:39

the CEO or the CFO, it

1:00:42

doesn't feel like a safe

1:00:44

space to be processing emotional trauma

1:00:47

or be talking about your feelings with

1:00:49

your accounting supervisor. Or

1:00:52

your director of human resources. So

1:00:54

it depends on the company culture.

1:00:56

And in those situations, what I recommend

1:01:00

is the one on one sessions so

1:01:02

that there is still a privacy --

1:01:04

Yeah. -- and a safety that says,

1:01:07

listen. This isn't a safe space for

1:01:09

me. To address this.

1:01:11

And with family dynamics, same

1:01:13

thing is sometimes a

1:01:16

young adult is not the

1:01:18

right they're not at the right age

1:01:20

necessarily to to be processing a

1:01:23

parent's sexual trauma. And

1:01:25

so that's important to

1:01:28

look at what is the intention here.

1:01:30

And if there is an issue where somebody

1:01:32

needs deeper, private

1:01:35

because breath work, chamangelic

1:01:37

breath work has the potential to really

1:01:39

go deep, and not everybody in

1:01:41

that collective container can hold space

1:01:43

for that process. That's what the

1:01:46

facilitator does and learning

1:01:49

and listening to what's the appropriate

1:01:51

environment here and when the

1:01:53

deeper issues are uncovered, then

1:01:56

one on one integration is really valuable

1:01:59

so that that way, it's

1:02:01

processed in an appropriate environment.

1:02:04

Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. I

1:02:06

I wanna talk a little bit about this

1:02:08

this thing that's going on at shine

1:02:11

in March. I'm gonna come down and

1:02:13

give a big presentation on

1:02:15

breath work and on a lot of other stuff, like

1:02:17

biohacking air, you know,

1:02:19

light, water, electricity. We're gonna do

1:02:21

a big q and a. We even have a kind

1:02:23

of this intimate VIP dinner gathering

1:02:25

with me that night where me and my family

1:02:27

are going to actually prepare a bunch of recipes

1:02:29

from the Boundless Cookbook and serve them the people,

1:02:32

my sister who lives down to Dona, she's gonna be

1:02:34

there doing live music, and we have this five

1:02:36

dinner that we're putting together for people at

1:02:39

our Airbnb down there in Sedona.

1:02:41

But during the day, leading up to that

1:02:43

point, we are doing this

1:02:46

whole event at your

1:02:47

place. There's a few things going on there. There's

1:02:50

one one is a sound activation journey. What exactly

1:02:52

is that? So we've got a whole

1:02:54

weekend planned. Like, what we're doing

1:02:57

then I'm so excited to

1:02:59

weave all of this together, is

1:03:01

it's this wellness, biohacking, body

1:03:04

and beyond ultimate experience for

1:03:06

people to first of all come

1:03:09

to Sedona who's the frequency

1:03:11

is healing the vortexes.

1:03:14

Here are the spaceholders

1:03:17

for accelerated healing and awakening.

1:03:19

So we're in the right space, Sedona.

1:03:21

That's her mission to to hold that

1:03:24

kind of space. Shine a

1:03:26

beautiful venue for

1:03:28

this to happen. And then

1:03:31

you're gonna dial in in the morning

1:03:33

all of the this offering, which

1:03:35

is live in person. There's limited

1:03:37

tickets live in person on

1:03:40

the eleventh. Which is

1:03:42

Saturday, March eleventh. And

1:03:44

then I'm gonna be offering breath work

1:03:46

in the afternoon, so that's a

1:03:48

sweet combo for people Plus,

1:03:51

we've created an alliance with

1:03:53

cryotherapy, which is just a couple doors

1:03:56

down.

1:03:56

Yeah. That's that's like that biohacking facility

1:03:59

next door. Yeah. Which is perfect

1:04:01

because as part of the ticket price, you'll get

1:04:03

to experience some of

1:04:05

their modalities cryotherapy

1:04:08

or the compression pants or the

1:04:10

red light therapy. So we've included

1:04:12

that in the ticket price different options

1:04:15

to go and experience things there.

1:04:18

Super foods. We've got super food gifts

1:04:20

and, you know, organic juices

1:04:22

come in your way, like and those

1:04:24

that are wanting the VIP experience will

1:04:26

come and get book

1:04:28

signing, the boundless book signed,

1:04:30

and photo ops, and then we'll do breath work

1:04:32

in the afternoon.

1:04:33

And a drinking cacao ceremony. You can't

1:04:35

skip the chocolate part. Yeah. Oh, for

1:04:37

sure. Then the VIP dinner

1:04:39

at night that your whole family is creating.

1:04:42

What we've done to make it an standard

1:04:44

weekend for those that come in before

1:04:47

is that on the tenth, there's gonna be a

1:04:49

group sound healing That's

1:04:52

with John and Jade. That's

1:04:54

Didgerie do, crystal balls, gongs,

1:04:57

drums, flutes, two

1:05:00

master sound healers. So that's

1:05:02

gonna be a sound journey on

1:05:04

Friday night. Plus, we have practitioner

1:05:07

rooms that are gonna be offering

1:05:10

rate key and astrology and

1:05:12

card readings the day before. So you

1:05:14

can come in and get a taste

1:05:16

of shine and get some one on one

1:05:18

support or come to the

1:05:21

sound healing the night before. You're

1:05:23

teeing off Saturday with this

1:05:25

epic two and half hour immersion

1:05:28

where you get to experience all

1:05:30

of these things. So that the

1:05:33

Saturday, your talk then will

1:05:35

be available in person in soaps, in

1:05:37

Sedona Limited tickets. And

1:05:39

also available live stream.

1:05:42

Yeah. And Sedona's an interesting place to do it

1:05:44

because, you know, this concept of a war text.

1:05:46

I think some people think that's a little bit woo

1:05:48

or esoteric. But I mean, there actually are what called

1:05:50

lay lines, LEY lines,

1:05:52

and that's where the earth's

1:05:54

natural electromagnetic field

1:05:57

seems more concentrated. Like, you've you've,

1:05:59

of course, I know you've heard of this on a

1:06:01

hata, but a lot of people may also be familiar

1:06:03

with grounding or earthing. And I've done several podcasts

1:06:06

on grounding or earthing and how the earth emits

1:06:08

this natural healing frequency

1:06:10

that can do things like shutdown inflammation or

1:06:12

improve joint pain or improve sleep

1:06:15

or realignment circadian rhythms. And I

1:06:17

mean, there's places like everything from from

1:06:19

Stonehenge to some spots in

1:06:21

Spain and Glass and Burry England where

1:06:24

the earth actually emits what

1:06:26

seems to be a higher frequency of

1:06:29

the magnetic field. And so if you go outside

1:06:31

barefoot in Sedona, if you use,

1:06:33

like, grounding or earthing that's there, even if

1:06:35

you're standing indoors in a

1:06:37

room that has, like, a concrete flooring, you

1:06:40

actually absorb a lot of that energies. And it's

1:06:42

really interesting. Like seems different,

1:06:44

breath work seems different. A lot of,

1:06:46

you know, spiritual experiences seem

1:06:49

a little bit different. And, you

1:06:51

know, there there are certain things we don't really understand

1:06:53

when it comes to the branch of physics concerned

1:06:55

with, you know, our universe But

1:06:57

this idea of electromagnetic

1:07:00

energy produced by the planet being

1:07:02

more highly concentrated in some areas

1:07:04

is just absolutely fascinating to me. And and

1:07:07

I can't explain all of it scientifically. All I know

1:07:09

is, like, when I take off my shoes and go outside

1:07:11

barefoot in Sedona, you feel

1:07:13

this way different energy than

1:07:15

you do anywhere else. And and I know that as part of

1:07:17

this experience, we're gonna have the opportunity for people

1:07:19

to join virtually or via like a video

1:07:22

lives stream. And there's some different packages

1:07:24

available, like you mentioned. But, man,

1:07:26

if if you're listening and and you have wanted

1:07:28

to go to Sedona, to experience this or maybe

1:07:30

you're already in the area and just wanna come and do

1:07:32

something cool. It's definitely kind of a

1:07:34

a once in a lifetime experience to be in Sedona,

1:07:37

and I I would recommend anybody that come tack on a couple

1:07:39

extra days to hike the trails there because it's

1:07:41

it's one of the best hiking spots

1:07:43

in my opinion in in the

1:07:44

country. We took our sons there on a big hiking

1:07:47

trip. Last year. I've got

1:07:49

a couple hidden treasures to show

1:07:51

you, Ben. And yes, on that

1:07:53

Sunday morning, I'm taking

1:07:55

a group, those that are signing up for

1:07:57

that. For a Sunday morning

1:08:00

vortex hike, we will absolutely go

1:08:02

to a hidden treasure. We will absolutely

1:08:04

take off our shoes and do a sacred grounding

1:08:07

ceremony. The vortex is

1:08:09

here, vortex is like an an

1:08:11

intersection, like of lay

1:08:14

lines, there's also high

1:08:16

concentrations of minerals crystals

1:08:18

in the soil. Not wiggle

1:08:21

but legit crystal quartz in

1:08:23

the soil, which is a conductor and an

1:08:25

amplifier, plus all of

1:08:27

the minerals from the bulk mechanic activity

1:08:29

are also accelerators

1:08:31

or potentiators. So it's kinda like turns

1:08:34

the dial up. So the energy here

1:08:36

measurably, scientifically different,

1:08:39

and we're gonna leverage that for sure.

1:08:41

Howard Bauchner: Yeah, that that might be one of the reasons

1:08:43

too is not just the slightly higher electromagnetic

1:08:46

signal or at least a higher frequency than

1:08:48

seven point eight hertz, which is kinda like that

1:08:51

natural healing frequency known as as the

1:08:53

human resonance. That the earth puts out, but it might

1:08:55

also be some of the some of the actual geological

1:08:57

formations in the soil there or the crystals

1:09:00

that you mentioned, which are pretty, you

1:09:02

know, highly dense in the earth in

1:09:04

Sedona that are acting as better

1:09:06

conductive agents, you know, in the same way that I wear

1:09:08

like earth runner sandals that have copper plugs

1:09:11

in the bottom of them to allow me to be

1:09:13

earth or grounded even if I'm not

1:09:15

barefoot. You could imagine that if

1:09:17

the ground had a bunch of copper plugs in it

1:09:19

naturally, you would able to ground or

1:09:21

earth a little bit more efficiently. So I love that you're

1:09:23

you're doing some stuff outside as well. I

1:09:25

have a lot of listeners,

1:09:27

and and I I know people are gonna ask, and

1:09:29

so this is important for me to point out,

1:09:31

I think, and know, maybe kind of awkward

1:09:33

to bring up, but I have a list a lot of listeners

1:09:36

who are who are Christians who

1:09:38

might not wanna do, like, territ readings

1:09:40

or may not want to do some of

1:09:42

some of the things that might be painted as

1:09:44

a little bit more new AG when it comes

1:09:47

to Sedona activities. If people

1:09:49

wanna opt out of those type of things, you know,

1:09:51

if it doesn't really align with their belief

1:09:53

patterns, this is one of those things where you get to

1:09:55

kind of choose your own adventure. Right?

1:09:57

There's the opportunity to come just for your lecture

1:09:59

on Saturday. There's the opportunity

1:10:02

to enjoy this

1:10:04

dreamed taking partnership where

1:10:06

you've got the the lecture and the workshop

1:10:08

in the morning, and then I guide the

1:10:10

breath work, the Jean angelic breath work

1:10:12

in the afternoon. And so there's the

1:10:14

option to pair those together. The

1:10:17

sound healing is non denominational.

1:10:20

I mean, this is this is sound frequencies

1:10:23

being able to move through the

1:10:24

body. Oh, yeah. That's the music of the spirits,

1:10:27

by the way. Like, I'm a big believer that, like,

1:10:29

god is is the creator and created

1:10:31

the universe using sound and the Earth

1:10:34

and the entire universe is specifically

1:10:36

designed to conduct sounds and our bodies are

1:10:38

tuned as a receiver for sound. So

1:10:40

I don't really consider, you know, sound healing

1:10:42

or a roman therapy or breath

1:10:44

work or a lot of the other things that we're talking

1:10:47

about, even connecting with the natural

1:10:49

frequencies of the Earth to be anything that would

1:10:51

rub people of different denomination the

1:10:54

wrong way. But again, I wanna emphasize

1:10:56

that, like, if you wanna go and

1:10:58

say, like, Terecord readings and up your

1:11:00

alley, that's not something that you have to that

1:11:02

you have to include as part of the experience.

1:11:04

In connecting with the vision and

1:11:07

the mission of shine, it

1:11:09

was very clear that this is

1:11:11

for everyone everyone

1:11:13

just starting out, everyone

1:11:16

from different walks of life, different

1:11:20

processes different beliefs that

1:11:22

shine is welcomes people where

1:11:24

they are and

1:11:27

embraces and can tailor what

1:11:29

it is that you need for your journey right

1:11:31

now. And sometimes it's just the

1:11:33

one on one session if it's, look, hey, I'm not

1:11:35

into astrology or card readings

1:11:37

or anything like that, no big deal.

1:11:40

Sometimes it's just a deep relaxation

1:11:42

session. That is aromatherapy,

1:11:46

hemisinc sound going

1:11:49

through headphones on an

1:11:51

amicus crystal biomass. In

1:11:53

our healing womb space where

1:11:55

you just get to have a journey where your physical

1:11:58

and emotional and body can just

1:12:01

reset. It's like a cellular reset.

1:12:03

There's no spirit guides

1:12:06

involved. There's just presence

1:12:09

so that you can get into that

1:12:11

parasympathetic relaxed state

1:12:14

to allow your mind and body to heal itself

1:12:16

and rebalance

1:12:17

itself. And so those will

1:12:19

also be available. I sometimes catch

1:12:21

them flack for this, you know, because

1:12:24

there is this ancient kind

1:12:26

of, like, practice of nosticism that

1:12:29

teaches that there's some, like, hidden source

1:12:31

of knowledge and hidden secret to be able to

1:12:33

connect with God. And thus if you're using grounding

1:12:36

or earthing or crystals or aromatherapy

1:12:39

or heat or cold or breath work

1:12:41

or anything else that you're somehow

1:12:43

crossing the line into some

1:12:45

sort of new age practice that completely

1:12:48

contradicts, say, like a Christian

1:12:50

practice or a connection to God.

1:12:52

But for me, personally, even though I don't think

1:12:54

any of that stuff is necessary, like

1:12:57

I mentioned, when I do my my prayer and devotion

1:12:59

in the morning, like our family meditation we

1:13:01

burn incense and we do breath work. My own personal

1:13:03

devotion and prayer practice, I'm using essential

1:13:06

oils. Usually, I'm sitting on some kind of

1:13:08

APEMF. Or crystal matte or

1:13:10

outdoors, I am doing

1:13:12

the breath work. Like you mentioned, I'm typically

1:13:15

playing some sort of sound frequency or using

1:13:17

some kind of sound healing tool.

1:13:19

And I actually think that that people

1:13:21

who practice Christianity, you

1:13:23

know, like myself, shouldn't necessarily

1:13:26

shun a lot of these tools that

1:13:28

I think can deepen. They're

1:13:30

necessary for, but think they can deepen

1:13:33

a spiritual experience. I think that sometimes

1:13:35

though it gets painted as

1:13:37

full on new age like don't go

1:13:39

near or touch it when in fact I think that

1:13:42

a lot of these tools Christians

1:13:44

in particular could benefit

1:13:45

from. Like, you know, that this is something that

1:13:47

I've discovered at least in my own practice.

1:13:50

Well, you know, frankincense and

1:13:52

Mir were the most

1:13:54

precious gifts given to the king.

1:13:57

To bring into the divine, you

1:13:59

know, to be brought by the

1:14:01

kings.

1:14:02

Yeah. Big big part of ancient Jewish worship

1:14:04

as well. Exactly. And so

1:14:06

I think it's valuable to be

1:14:08

open and discerning

1:14:11

is to be open minded because one

1:14:13

of the benefits that I think that has helped

1:14:15

me in my spiritual journey

1:14:18

is to be able to

1:14:20

come home back to Christ,

1:14:24

mother Mary, god

1:14:26

to come back home to those

1:14:30

as guides as teachers

1:14:33

and to be open

1:14:35

to hear different practices,

1:14:38

different concepts, so

1:14:40

that I can be open minded

1:14:42

to lots of different things and yet discerning

1:14:45

if that feels too far

1:14:47

or it doesn't feel right or it doesn't

1:14:50

feel true to me giving

1:14:52

complete authority to myself to

1:14:55

be in alignment with what my beliefs and comfort

1:14:57

level is today. And that has

1:14:59

brought me to learn from

1:15:01

many different traditions

1:15:04

and spiritual cultures and

1:15:08

it all comes down to love. That's

1:15:10

the one thing all spiritual

1:15:12

practices have in common

1:15:14

is is love.

1:15:16

Yeah. And I think that that's

1:15:18

what shine is founded

1:15:21

on is that it's a sanctuary for

1:15:23

you to find love, feel

1:15:25

love, emanate love,

1:15:28

create forgiveness within your heart

1:15:30

for yourself and for others, and to

1:15:32

emanate. That frequency of love.

1:15:35

That's a non denominational truth

1:15:38

that we are holding this space

1:15:40

for to meet anyone in their process

1:15:42

wherever they are in the journey and

1:15:44

how we can support that. Love

1:15:46

frequency raising. And that's why

1:15:48

that rose essential oil

1:15:50

is so valuable because

1:15:53

it is that essential oil that

1:15:55

we associate most with with

1:15:57

compassion and the unconditional

1:16:00

love of same mother Mary. And

1:16:02

Frank can sense that

1:16:04

unconditional love from Christ consciousness.

1:16:07

Like those two oils I use

1:16:09

a lot in my healing practice and

1:16:12

others because they

1:16:14

can help us access the frequency

1:16:17

that those guides, those

1:16:20

spiritual masters and teachers embody,

1:16:23

In the physical form, sent

1:16:26

sound, prayer, song

1:16:28

has been a part of all

1:16:30

spiritual traditions to help us

1:16:32

access those higher states of consciousness.

1:16:35

And so I'm right with you. And

1:16:37

I appreciate you bringing that up so

1:16:39

that people that are listening know

1:16:41

that we got you and we're

1:16:43

welcome and we're excited to have

1:16:46

this wonderful journey with everybody at

1:16:48

China. And if they can't come that particular

1:16:50

weekend, maybe they wanna come to Sedona

1:16:53

at a different time, well, they can come and visit,

1:16:56

shine at another time, or tune in virtually.

1:16:59

And we've got all of these

1:17:01

wonderful things that we've packaged together

1:17:04

for the weekend, super foods

1:17:06

from Earth Echo and organic

1:17:08

juices and smoothies from local juicery

1:17:11

and the cryotherapy sessions and I

1:17:13

love that place, by the way. Local juicer is

1:17:15

amazing. I my my heart left for joy when

1:17:17

I when I saw they're gonna be part of it. So

1:17:20

yeah. I I agree. I mean, I I'm I'm

1:17:22

probably not on the same or not should have probably

1:17:24

not on the same page as you are when it

1:17:26

comes to, like, my truth. I don't trust

1:17:28

myself enough to have my truth. That's probably

1:17:30

why the Christian faith appeals

1:17:32

to me so much. Like, I believe in

1:17:34

absolute morality and that there's there's one

1:17:37

truth. And so I use the bible

1:17:39

as my own handbook. And

1:17:41

so I filter everything through that

1:17:43

versus generating my own

1:17:45

truth and and just because this is

1:17:47

my podcast. I gotta get up on my soapbox.

1:17:50

I I believe that that that sometimes

1:17:52

the idea of having, like, your own truth can lead

1:17:54

to, like, a flaky morality where people

1:17:57

could eventually say, well, you know, I

1:17:59

believe that doing x, y, and

1:18:01

z, horrific atrocity is right because

1:18:04

that's my truth versus having some sense

1:18:06

of absolute reality. I'm I'm reading actually a

1:18:08

great series on the tour right now by

1:18:10

Dennis Prager that just goes into the

1:18:12

origin of the ten commandments and

1:18:14

how it lends itself to societal stability

1:18:17

and and this this idea

1:18:20

that that truth is not

1:18:22

fluid. It's basically

1:18:25

a consistent, unavoidable reality

1:18:28

like gravity is that simply

1:18:30

exists as one truth

1:18:33

from from on high and from God.

1:18:35

I guess what I'm getting at is that if

1:18:37

if you are one of my many, many

1:18:39

Christian followers and you wanna

1:18:42

come to this event or be part

1:18:44

of it. I'm perfectly okay. With

1:18:46

you coming in with your

1:18:48

truth and having that be

1:18:51

your truth because that is

1:18:53

God's truth. I just wanna make sure that

1:18:55

that I clarify that to my listeners because I know people

1:18:58

are gonna ask me about this stuff, and so

1:19:00

I I can't not say it. But that

1:19:02

being said, I know that we're

1:19:04

running short on time, and I haven't even mentioned

1:19:06

how people can get into or be part

1:19:09

of this event. So here's what I'm gonna do.

1:19:11

I'm going to put all the show notes

1:19:13

as well as all the previous podcasts that I've done

1:19:15

with Anahada at ben greenfield

1:19:18

life dot com slash shine.

1:19:20

So if you go to bengard for life dot com slash

1:19:22

shine, I'll have all the details about

1:19:24

the events, I'll have the previous podcast

1:19:26

led donathanahada, links to a lot of

1:19:28

our stuff. You can go surf the page. You can see the different

1:19:30

options for attending. Everything from a

1:19:33

very basic taken part in a in a virtual

1:19:35

video conference to go in there in Sedona being

1:19:37

boots on the ground with cacao celebrations and

1:19:39

the VIP dinner gathering and the

1:19:41

the breath were healing ceremonies and a lot more.

1:19:43

So it should be a super cool event. And again,

1:19:45

it's March tenth. Through the twelfth. So

1:19:48

it's coming up pretty soon. I would say if you're listening to this

1:19:50

podcast at the time that it comes out, then

1:19:52

I would would get on it and go

1:19:54

check out the show notes at Ben Greenfield Life.

1:19:56

Dot com slash shine.

1:19:59

In the meantime, Anahada, it's been

1:20:01

another fascinating discussion with you

1:20:03

covering everything from Penal gland

1:20:06

Calcification to to energy

1:20:08

vortices. So thanks so much for coming

1:20:10

on the show again and and sharing your wisdom.

1:20:12

It's my pleasure and I'm excited

1:20:15

to have yet another beautiful

1:20:17

journey with you here in Sedona this

1:20:19

time adding the whole family. I

1:20:21

got to meet the boys last time, and

1:20:24

I'm super excited to get on the land

1:20:27

again, have another breath work session,

1:20:29

have wonderful weekend, and

1:20:31

thank you so much for doing the work that you do

1:20:34

with such authenticity, such integrity,

1:20:36

and such tenacity beautiful

1:20:39

to watch your journey evolve and you

1:20:42

grow as a man, as a

1:20:44

leader, as a teacher, as a father, and

1:20:46

as a partner, and so

1:20:49

grateful to be walking this planet

1:20:51

with you and for the work that

1:20:53

you do and how many people that

1:20:55

you help with with all ways that you

1:20:57

do. So thank you. You give me a big head

1:20:59

now. Alright. Well, folks,

1:21:02

I think that's a wrap. So until next

1:21:04

time, I'm being greenfield along with Anahada.

1:21:06

Ananda from Sedona, signing out

1:21:08

from Ben Greenfield Life dot com. Have

1:21:10

an amazing week, and I hope to see you at this

1:21:12

shine event in Sedona in March.

1:21:15

We'll talk to you later. Just imagine

1:21:17

a hotel surrounded by nature,

1:21:20

vineyards, and gardens,

1:21:21

this forest classified as historical

1:21:25

garden, very special country, at

1:21:27

a hotel located in the oldest demarcated

1:21:30

wine region in the world. Imagine

1:21:33

this place has a state of the art spot, twenty two

1:21:35

hundred square meters, ten treatment rooms

1:21:37

and indoor pool with underwater sound and chromotherapy.

1:21:41

Imagine a kitchen team that brings

1:21:43

to the table not just delicious food at this

1:21:45

place, but values environmental

1:21:48

sustainability and wellness and local sensitivity

1:21:50

and global sensitivity. Imagine

1:21:53

being able to be bathed and luxury.

1:21:55

Being able to be local, to buy local,

1:21:58

and to eat local. Not

1:22:00

caged office on fancy tourists was

1:22:02

a part the community and

1:22:05

part of the terrar of the region. Well,

1:22:07

that's exactly what you experience in

1:22:10

Portugal. At their Sixth Sense's

1:22:12

Luxury Retreat, and I'm gonna

1:22:14

be there. For a special event that you

1:22:16

can read up on at ben greenfieldlife dot

1:22:19

com slash six senses is called

1:22:21

the Ballmas Retreat. And at bangerinefieldlife

1:22:23

dot com slash six senses, you can

1:22:25

see everything we're doing every day starts with a healthy

1:22:28

farmhouse breakfast, morning movement session

1:22:30

with me. You get access to three different

1:22:32

sixty minute spot treatments that you can choose from

1:22:34

throughout the day indoor pool and vitality

1:22:36

suites. Meditation, sound healing,

1:22:38

an alchemy bar with cokedama and yogurts

1:22:41

and pickles and sprouts workshops, retreat

1:22:43

meals all made from locally sourced organic

1:22:45

produce. Q and As and seeing long

1:22:47

sessions with me, this is gonna be

1:22:50

an amazing, remarkable once

1:22:52

in lifetime experience. You have

1:22:54

four nights full board accommodation in a

1:22:56

deluxe room there at the facility and

1:22:59

this thing, as you can imagine, is going

1:23:01

to fill up fast. It's

1:23:03

in Portugal. The success is a treat in

1:23:05

Portugal. Again, all

1:23:07

the details are at ben greenfieldlife

1:23:11

dot com. Slash six

1:23:13

senses, and the dates are February

1:23:15

twenty seventh through March third

1:23:18

twenty twenty

1:23:18

three, February twenty seventh, through

1:23:21

March third twenty twenty three.

1:23:23

I hope to see you there. More

1:23:29

than ever these days. People like you and me

1:23:31

need a fresh, entertaining, well informed,

1:23:33

and often outside the box approach

1:23:36

to discovering the health and happiness and

1:23:38

hope. That we all crave. So I hope been

1:23:40

able to do that for you on this episode

1:23:42

today. And if you liked it or if you love

1:23:44

what I'm up to, then please leave me a

1:23:46

review on your preferred podcast listening

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channel, wherever that might be, and then just find

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