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Chapter 11: The In Between

Chapter 11: The In Between

Released Friday, 13th January 2023
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Chapter 11: The In Between

Chapter 11: The In Between

Chapter 11: The In Between

Chapter 11: The In Between

Friday, 13th January 2023
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Bridgewater is a production of I Heart Radio

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three D audio and Grim and Mild from

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Aaron Mankey for a full exposure

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listen with headphones. Listener

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discretion advised. Who's

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there? Who's

0:22

there? Celeste? Where?

0:26

Hello? No? I

0:29

can't Why is this? Really?

0:32

Is this really? God?

0:34

Am I really here? Is

0:36

that really you? Yeah?

0:39

Jeremy Thomas? Oh

0:42

Thomas. And I

0:46

knew it. I knew it. I

0:48

knew that you were still out

0:50

there. I knew you would find me. And

0:55

how is this possible? Jeremy's

0:57

sun? God,

1:01

look at you. I don't, I don't understand.

1:04

I knew it. This

1:06

can't be all right. This is

1:08

something, celestiad You're

1:12

he's solid, He's he's How

1:15

are you here? Dad?

1:20

It's me, It's

1:22

really me. I never stopped

1:24

looking, Thomas, and he's past few

1:27

months. I thought that I could

1:29

hear you. You know, I was really trying

1:31

to listen. I know

1:34

you've never stopped never, never,

1:37

Just so sorry he took me this long? You

1:39

wont What is all of this mean?

1:42

Where? Where?

1:44

Where have you been? How? How are

1:46

you? How are you all? Are

1:49

you alive? I'll explain everything, I promise,

1:51

and as much as I can anyway,

1:55

I'd love to get out of this lake first,

1:59

and fine, what

2:03

is that? We have to get out of here? But

2:06

we'll last Where is she? Last?

2:08

Was the last Celeste from Yes, from

2:10

the old gathering case? Yeah, the last

2:13

she traded places with me? What

2:16

means she must have That's how I we

2:19

have to go. Now what we we? What?

2:21

What? What? Are? We? All a blur? But I think I

2:26

think I think I'm not the only one

2:28

that got out. Okay,

3:11

that's another dead end. One

3:14

other incident of symbols relating to a lost

3:16

person in eighty years

3:22

Why Ethan?

3:26

Yeah,

3:28

um, Olivia? Hey,

3:32

sorry, how can I Yeah? Yeah, yeah, come

3:34

on in? What

3:38

are you doing? Gree

3:42

you first? How are you? How

3:44

are you doing? How's Ethan?

3:46

I heard about him? It was

3:49

he's okay, I mean no, he's not.

3:52

He's healthy though, he's safe.

3:55

They let him out this afternoon, and I don't

3:57

know. My parents are still in complete freak

3:59

out own. Yeah, they seemed

4:02

a bit frazzled when

4:04

they opened the door. My dad is

4:06

taking Nathan to our grandparents in Winchester.

4:09

He needs a break from from

4:11

this whole place. I guess my

4:14

dad can work from wherever, so they're just going to stay

4:16

there for a little while until Ethan. We've

4:20

been We still don't understand what happened. I've

4:23

been scraping through message board posts

4:25

and digital archives and I can't

4:27

find anything recent that's close to what happened

4:29

to Eatan. So I just hey, I know,

4:32

but he's safe, and he's called

4:34

his big sister and his grandmother

4:36

on the case. I mean, if anyone

4:39

can figure it out, it is the Becker Hoskins.

4:43

Yeah,

4:45

anyway, what's

4:48

up? What are you doing here? Oh?

4:50

Right? Um? Have you talked

4:53

to Anne recently? Oh?

4:56

I haven't talked to her since the hospital last night. Why,

5:00

well, something kind of strange

5:02

ch happened earlier. Okay,

5:06

so you remember Katie Frank's Wow,

5:18

I can't believe you still live here. Once you learn

5:20

about the modern housing market, you'll understand

5:24

it looks different and all the

5:26

furnitures. I

5:28

also don't remember you being such a slab.

5:33

Well, it has been a hectic a few

5:35

decades. Believe it. Oh

5:39

my god, it's really

5:41

you. You're really

5:44

here husband,

5:52

decades since we lasted that decades,

5:55

Thomas man Christ,

5:59

I'm an a woman now, I mean, look at

6:01

me. No, no,

6:03

no, You're still beautiful,

6:07

You're always beautiful. But I'm

6:09

not who I was. I don't think

6:11

either of us are. Um,

6:15

Jeremy, O, my god,

6:19

there's so much I want to tell you, things I've been waiting

6:21

decades to tell you. And

6:23

and I no, no, it's it's okay.

6:26

I know about that. It's um,

6:29

how did you

6:32

you knew it was me? How did you

6:34

know? I mean, it's you're my son. Sure

6:37

you're all grown up now, but I knew i'd

6:41

know you anywhere anytime, you,

6:43

Jeremy, But you

6:47

you look what what do

6:49

I look like? You look

6:52

almost exactly the same, maybe

6:56

a little rag it around the edges,

6:58

but you haven't aged.

7:01

Huh? I did wonder?

7:04

Should should that? Um disturb

7:07

you just a little? But I don't know if I can complain

7:09

about not getting older? How exactly

7:12

is this possible? Time worked

7:14

differently over there? Oh?

7:16

Well in that case, okay, Jeremy.

7:19

And how do we even know? How

7:21

do we know that you are the real

7:24

Thomas Bradshaw? What?

7:26

Yeah, you just come out of the fog. You're still

7:28

thirty five, and you're talking about celestrating places

7:30

with you like it makes any sense? And then you expect

7:33

us to believe that my father is not actually

7:35

dead. Jeremy, my father is

7:38

dead. You are

7:40

dead me. I'm not, I

7:42

never was. I'm

7:45

so sorry. No, don't

7:47

say you're sorry.

7:49

And you say you're sorry because

7:51

you can't say you're sorry because you're not real.

7:54

Okay, Jeremy, Jeremy,

7:56

honey, after everything that we just witnessed, your

7:58

you're still denying that there's something beyond

8:01

our understanding going on here. I mean, look

8:03

at him, look at him. We're

8:05

not hallucinating. How I know this isn't

8:07

just a dream or that that you're

8:09

not some trick that

8:12

I'm not gonna wake up tomorrow and

8:14

find that you're still gone. I'm not going

8:17

anywhere. I'm here. I

8:19

mean, I barely understand how or why I

8:21

was able to get out, but I'm not leaving.

8:24

I'm here, Son, I'm

8:26

here. You we're

8:29

jad I

8:33

lost you. You've

8:35

been You've been gone. I

8:39

know. Fuck, I feel

8:41

like I'm losing my mind. I know the

8:43

feeling it's

8:48

really you, isn't it. Yeah,

8:52

Jeremy, it is so.

8:56

When you when you said Tim moved differently

8:58

over there, you were inside

9:00

that that thing that opened up above

9:03

the lake, yes, I'm kind of like a vortex

9:05

or portal ship. Did Celeste

9:07

really open it or wait?

9:09

If she treated places with you then she strapped

9:12

out like you were. Ah,

9:14

I don't know. And she was with you

9:16

when you found me, yeah, right right

9:19

before and then she jumped.

9:22

How did you know that that's what what

9:25

she was trying to do right away? You knew

9:27

that she was trying to trade places. That's the only

9:29

thing that makes sense. I guess

9:31

something else could have gotten me out, but I don't know how.

9:34

And I remember her from before. She was there that

9:36

night when when you Yeah,

9:39

and and recently things have been getting

9:43

um thinner, but

9:46

between here and there, and I thought I heard

9:48

her trying to talk to me, trying to tell me what she was

9:50

planning. So Celeste was she

9:53

wasn't lying, She wasn't she wasn't

9:56

making any of it up. She really was trying to fix

9:58

some kind of cosmic tear more

10:00

or less. Yeah, And you

10:03

you think she jumped off a cliff and landed

10:05

in where wherever whatever

10:08

you've been in work for me?

10:11

Well, to be fair, I was pushed Thomas.

10:15

Oh my god, that's probably

10:17

not the best joke. No, no, no, I mean,

10:19

why not, right, Like, why shouldn't

10:21

my dad dad joke about his own murder. I

10:23

mean, you can't joke about that, then, what can

10:25

you joke about Jeremy. To be fair,

10:28

I do think it was an accident.

10:31

It all happened so fast. I thought they were going

10:34

to hurt someone. But knowing

10:37

what I know now, maybe

10:39

I should have played it differently. I've

10:42

had a lot of time to think about it. How

10:44

should you have played it? I thought they were a crazy

10:46

cult trying to sacrifice someone. I didn't realize

10:49

they were trying to go somewhere of their own free will.

10:51

No, you had it right, Okay, they didn't

10:53

know what they were trying to do

10:56

either. I mean they were trying to sacrifice

10:58

somebody, some kind of blood rituals,

11:01

open up a gate to another dimension. You

11:04

did the right thing with the information that you had,

11:06

Thomas. You did Oh my god,

11:08

that is such bullshit. What.

11:11

No, I'm sorry. You should

11:13

not have intervened. You You should have just

11:15

let those nut jobs do whatever it is that they wanted

11:17

to do, and they should have dealt with the consequences themselves.

11:20

It wasn't an option. I had a job

11:22

to do, and

11:22

your and did

11:25

your job usually require confronting

11:27

dangerous people alone, going to a secret

11:29

cult meeting without any backup and without telling

11:31

anyone. You try explaining to your

11:33

captain that you need resources to stop magical

11:36

rituals in the woods and see how that goes. Well, you should

11:38

have tried. You think I didn't.

11:41

I was doing everything I could to get to the bottom

11:43

of what was going on to protect my people

11:46

before it was too late. Well, great job.

11:48

I'm not the one who needed to be protected. As

11:51

an officer of the law, I

11:53

don't get that. Bub don't don't give me that

11:55

you were some lone wolf with no responsibilities.

11:57

You're right, I did have responsibilities to the people at this

11:59

time. You had a responsibility.

12:02

You had a responsibility to me and

12:05

to Ann. You didn't even tell your partner. I mean,

12:07

I know you had the opportunity, given that you two

12:09

were already together at

12:11

that point. All right, let's just all what.

12:14

I'm not going to tell me that calm down, you're

12:16

not I'm going to tell you

12:19

that I don't think that this is the time, and

12:21

that we can't exactly cast stones, considering

12:23

we've been doing the exact same withholding

12:26

information from the authorities. Come

12:28

on, fine,

12:31

well we should go to the police. Even if Celeste

12:33

really is in that other place. We

12:36

we need to file them miss some person's

12:38

report. No one

12:40

can see Thomas, not yet what And

12:43

you know, I am right, Jeremy,

12:45

Not until we can figure out how to explain

12:48

all this. We don't know, right,

12:50

We don't know how people react. Yeah,

12:53

so call what?

12:56

Well, I can't do what the police know my voice

12:58

to Ellen Thomas obviously yet so right,

13:03

yeah,

13:09

I can't. There's no service landline

13:12

in the kitchen. Okay,

13:15

be right back. How

13:20

are you feeling fine? All things

13:22

considered? A little less fine after that?

13:27

Well, you

13:29

know he's processing emotions

13:31

are running high. You

13:34

really know him? Huh

13:36

yeah. I mean we haven't known each

13:38

other for very long, but the time that we have spent

13:40

together has been intense.

13:45

This isn't all what I was expecting. I

13:47

can only imagine, but

13:50

you seem

13:53

I don't know I

13:55

would have thought, But

13:58

you're you, you know, putting

14:01

together the pieces and cracking the jokes.

14:04

It's really you after

14:07

all this time, it's really you. Don't

14:09

worry. I had plenty of time to have the full mental

14:11

breakdown. How long

14:14

has it actually been based on the fact that Jeremy is are

14:16

fully bromance. I'm guessing quite a while. But

14:19

forty years forty,

14:23

Oh, of

14:26

course it's forty I should

14:28

have known. What are you all

14:30

right? Anonymous to delivered. I just hope

14:32

they get there and find nothing that would mean

14:34

that she's alive, right and wherever

14:37

you were right? I think?

14:39

So? Yes, Okay, good, that's

14:41

good because otherwise people have survived

14:43

that fall before Jeremy. I mean, even

14:46

if she didn't get through the portal, she

14:48

could be okay. Right. Well,

14:51

if for some reason she didn't get through,

14:54

we have a much bigger problem.

15:00

Yeah. She

15:17

didn't say anything else, just

15:19

that she was worried about Celeste. Yeah,

15:22

that Celeste was trying some kind of ritual

15:24

to close the terror in the veil. It

15:27

didn't make a lot of sense, and I'm not sure why that

15:29

would be dangerous in the first place, but Jeremy

15:31

still thought it'd be a good idea to check it out. Damn

15:34

it. Nana still hasn't responded

15:37

any of my calls or texts. Neither

15:39

is Jeremy. If Celeste

15:42

really is in danger, then they hey, I'm

15:44

sure they're totally fine. If

15:47

they're totally fine. Then why

15:49

are the police here? Oh god,

15:53

come one would

15:55

do that to oaks?

15:59

Who this is? An have seen? I'm

16:01

gonna need you to step back. What happened? Who

16:03

is that? We're the paramedics. They're grabbing

16:05

a gurnee. What happened? It seems there

16:08

was some kind of accidents

16:10

or someone didn't get the help they needed. We

16:12

don't know much. Someone jumped, that's unknown

16:15

at this time. Who is it? Is? It? Is it? Look?

16:17

I know the two of you have been caught up in whatever

16:19

has been going on. I'm really glad

16:21

that your brothers okay. By the way, thanks,

16:24

but this just got very very serious.

16:27

Maria. Whose body is that? Celeste?

16:31

Corey? Celeste is

16:33

she? She was already gone

16:35

when we got here. Oh god, wait,

16:38

have you seen anyone else? No? Have

16:40

you seen anyone else? No? It's

16:42

been a quiet one. The storm earlier cleared everything

16:45

out. Thank

16:47

you, officer. Well, um, we'll

16:50

get out of your hair. Stay safe.

16:55

What are you doing? Why didn't you ask about

16:57

Anne and Jeremy. We don't even know if they're okay

17:00

or okay. What we do know is that

17:02

they came to me Celeste, who was

17:04

now dead, and they didn't stick around

17:06

to talk to the police. Think, what

17:09

do you think they did something? I don't know, No,

17:12

of course not. Nana doesn't

17:15

like Celeste, but she helped Ethan, and Nana wouldn't

17:18

look. I don't know what happened

17:21

here, but I know my

17:23

grandmother and if she saw

17:26

something or knew something, she would

17:28

stick around to healthy investigation, even if she could

17:30

get in trouble for it. So if

17:32

she's not here, then she must have

17:34

a really good reason, or something

17:36

happened to her and Jeremy or someone,

17:40

but there'd be signs of a struggle. I look

17:43

at all the mud. There's

17:45

a bunch of footsteps, but no signs of dragging

17:47

or body falling on the ground. Oh the

17:50

hell. My Nana has taught me a lot

17:52

through the years, and something

17:54

about all of this doesn't feel

17:56

right. Like Jeremy and Nana

17:59

had to leave for some reason. Maybe

18:01

they were being watched, or maybe they

18:03

saw something that could put them in danger.

18:06

Maybe something chased them away. We

18:09

need to find them. Where do you think they'd

18:11

be and why wouldn't they be picking up their phones?

18:13

Well, if they're at my Nana's. The service

18:16

there sucks and they could walk there

18:18

from here. Okay, so that's where

18:20

we go. That's where we go. What

18:27

do you mean a bigger problem? It has to do

18:29

with the in between what

18:31

it needs. Every forty

18:33

years, something happens

18:36

here, and I think we're still in the middle

18:38

of it, right, a forty year curse? Sure?

18:40

Why not? That makes perfect sense. I'm going

18:42

to try to explain the best I can do

18:45

you that, Um, do you remember

18:47

the last forty years? Have you been awake

18:51

this whole time? I don't even know if that's the right question

18:53

to ask. Is that even the right question

18:55

to ask? I have no idea of what we're dealing

18:57

with here, because in all of my years

19:00

of research, I cannot think of anything that would create

19:02

some sort of time travel. I don't

19:04

think we're dealing with time travel here research.

19:07

I'm a folklore professor. It's a weird

19:09

ship is sort of my life. But this is

19:13

um okay, So then what we're dealing

19:15

with here? God, what are we

19:17

dealing with here? If it's not time travel, then

19:20

how are you? How are you here

19:22

looking like that? Magic?

19:25

I think, or something close to it. Magic.

19:28

Look, We've always known this place is different,

19:30

right, special? And

19:33

all this stuff. You and I investigated all

19:35

the strange cases. We knew

19:38

that we were just adding to the pile of unsolved mysteries

19:40

in the Bridgewater police files. And I think

19:42

there's a reason for that. The Bridgewater

19:44

Triangle, it's a name that was given to this region

19:47

a few years before. Well

19:49

you probably wouldn't have heard of it at the time, but there

19:52

was this cryptozoologist. Ah.

19:55

A lot of people now actually believe

19:58

that there is some kind of mystical force in

20:00

this region that attracts monsters and

20:02

and paranormal activity, the

20:04

Bridgewater Triangle, And

20:07

that sounds about right, But it's

20:09

not this region that's attracting things.

20:13

The region isn't opening to something.

20:15

That's exactly what Celeste was talking about

20:17

two she she was saying that the veil was

20:20

was thinner here. She's right, but

20:23

a veil between what

20:25

between here and and what Thomas.

20:29

Where exactly were you inside

20:32

that veil? I guess. I

20:36

mean, I don't know how to described. It didn't feel like I

20:38

was gone for forty years, but it did feel long enough

20:40

to expect to be an old man by the time I got out.

20:43

If I ever got out, you

20:45

did I know Celeste

20:47

was just trying to make things right, and

20:49

I hope it worked. But now she'll be trapped

20:52

in there. And were there things in there with you? You

20:54

said, you don't know what else got

20:56

out and out

20:58

of where, out of whatever

21:00

is on the other side of that in between? Spirit,

21:04

right, that's what Celeste. Thanks Spirit.

21:08

I'm not sure. I never

21:10

got to the other side. I was just stuck.

21:13

Sometimes it looked like freetown forest. Other

21:16

times the fog was so thick I couldn't see my

21:18

own hands in front of me, and it was like it

21:21

was like being in suspended animation.

21:24

I never got hungry or thirsty, but I was

21:27

always tired, sapped,

21:30

something like it was

21:32

feeding off of me, feeding

21:34

off of you. It feels alive the

21:37

in between. Every now

21:39

and then I would see something out of the corner of my eye,

21:41

hear something breathing behind me, but I never But

21:45

something changed a little

21:47

while ago. I don't know if it was weeks or days

21:49

or hell even years ago, but the air was

21:51

getting less suppressive, the fog starting to

21:53

lift, the veil was getting thinner.

21:56

Yes, And so I tried to call

21:58

out. I tried to talk to you. I

22:00

heard you. I don't know

22:02

how, but I heard you when you were

22:04

in free Town. No on

22:06

my answering machine. You were leaving

22:09

me messages. I could barely

22:11

make out your voice on some of them, but I

22:13

know it was you. How is

22:15

that possible? How could you be leaving messages from another

22:17

dimension? You don't even have a cell phone? What

22:20

phone? Right? Um?

22:23

That's it's it's a it's a portable

22:26

phone. That's a phone.

22:28

Oh yeah, Tom, Jesus

22:32

Tom, you okay. I mean it's really been

22:34

forty years. Forty that's

22:37

such. I

22:40

mean, I knew it might be that long until I could, but

22:43

I really, I really didn't think about

22:46

what that would mean. Dad.

22:50

I'm just gonna wait, where are

22:52

you going? I assume the bathroom hasn't

22:54

moved. Nope, just still

22:56

down the hall. I'll be right back, right

22:59

right of Sorry. Wow.

23:05

Wow, And this is also fun. I mean, he's

23:08

here, he's really here,

23:10

and he's looking real enough to go pale

23:12

at the sight of a cell phone. And then, Jesus,

23:16

I yelled at him. I yelled at him

23:18

for being irresponsible, yell yelling

23:21

at my own dad for being

23:23

irresponsible. It's okay, honey,

23:26

he understands you know, it's been weird for all

23:28

of us, and you know, but there's

23:30

like adrenaline crash coming for us. Who

23:32

knows what, you know? Yeah, yeah right,

23:36

But then I don't know, like I feel like I'm in

23:38

some kind of dream here. No,

23:40

he's really back, Jeremy.

23:43

We caught him back. You

23:45

know, everything in these past few weeks, even in my

23:47

most desperate,

23:50

scared moments, I

23:53

just never let myself think that any of it could be real,

23:55

because I let

23:58

myself think that then I could have

24:00

hope, and I um I

24:03

could not. I know, I know, I get

24:05

it. You know, there were times

24:07

even when I thought having a hope would

24:09

kill me. But you knew, you

24:12

knew it was all real. I

24:14

knew that I seemed certain, But

24:18

I hope really is all that ever was?

24:20

I feel like I he just walked

24:22

out of the fog. We didn't even have

24:24

to like fight a giant black dog

24:27

or anything. Yeah that's true. Oh

24:30

God, was that real? I

24:32

mean, I think it's safe to assume that all of

24:34

it is Jesus, you know, we don't

24:36

have to worry about any of that stuff now it's

24:39

over. Yeah, yeah,

24:41

God, what celest did for us? I know,

24:45

does she have a family. I don't

24:47

know, but we can find

24:49

out. We could tell him, tell him what that

24:52

there loved one is in some interdimensional

24:55

purgatory. Maybe

24:58

maybe, h there's

25:00

a way we can get her out, you

25:02

know, I mean we know where she's trapped.

25:04

Maybe we could do it right this time? Yeah? I

25:07

think No, no, no, no, she finally finished

25:09

what she started forty years ago. She made her choice

25:11

to sacrifice herself to make things right. It's not

25:14

it's not our problem anymore, and

25:16

this is over. We

25:20

we don't need to know how to get her out. Yes

25:22

we do, because

25:24

there was someone else in there with me, so

25:32

lest I can't believe she's I

25:34

mean, what happened? I have no

25:36

idea. Katie said

25:38

she thought she was in danger, right, I

25:40

mean maybe she meant that that Celeste wasn't

25:42

doing well, that she was at risk of hurting

25:45

herself. Yeah, or or

25:48

what okay, what

25:50

if whatever she was trying to do the ritual? What

25:52

if it worked? What if it what? Do

25:55

you think she was trying to perform some

25:57

kind of human sacrifice? I

25:59

don't, I don't know. I don't

26:02

understand what is happening. I

26:05

I feel stupid for even suggesting

26:07

it. What

26:10

was that? Hello? Is

26:12

someone there, Olivia?

26:15

We should hurry

26:19

both ship? Oh my god, what

26:22

is that? Olivia? Read?

26:38

This episode of Bridgewater was written by Lauren

26:40

Shippen and directed by Brendan Patrick

26:43

Hughes assistant director Sarah

26:45

Klein. Sound designed by Vincent the

26:47

Johnny Rema Okay, Ali, Josh

26:49

Thane, and Trevor Young, with music

26:52

by Chad Lawson, starring Misha

26:54

Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw, Melissa

26:57

Ponzio as Anne Becker, Alan

26:59

To Dick as Thomas Bradshaw, Karen

27:02

Sony as Vipen Corona, Sabra

27:05

May as Olivia Hoskins, Cheryl

27:08

Umania as Officer Bautista,

27:10

Will Wheaton as Captain Haddock, Tricia

27:13

Helfer as the Legend Tripper,

27:16

Stephen Guarino as Dr Edwards

27:19

Nandamisu Dembe as Peyton

27:21

Blake, Hilary Burton Morgan as

27:23

Shelley Hoskins, Nicki McCauley

27:26

as Celeste, Then Victoria Grace

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as Katie Frank's, with additional

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voice acting by Greta Gould, Shelby

27:33

Young, Adam oh Burn, Monty

27:35

Markham, Charlie Bergman, and Tern

27:38

Westbrook, Executive producers

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Aaron Manky, Misha Collins, Lauren

27:42

Shippin, Matt Frederick and Alexander

27:45

Williams. Supervising producers Josh

27:47

Thane and Trevor Young. Bridgewater

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was created by me Aaron Mankey and

27:52

is a production of Grim and Mild and I Heart

27:54

three D Audio. Learn more about the show

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over at Grim and Mild dot com,

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slash Bridge Water and find more podcasts

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to your favorite shows, and as

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always, thanks for listening.

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