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discretion advised. Yes,

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yes, Linda, thank you, and I'm sorry. I

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mean, you're the dean. I should have called

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you earlier, and I'm sorry for not

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giving you the advanced notice because obviously

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it put you in a spot. But no,

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no, no, it's it's not exactly

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resolved, but I think the emergency part

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of the family emergency is over at this

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point. But anyway, Yeah, thank you, I appreciate

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it. No, no, no no, no, no,

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I I don't think a leave of absence

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is necessary. We caught up on quite a lot this

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morning, and I should

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be back on schedule by the end of the week. Oh

0:51

really, who's the publisher.

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Oh that's

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fantastic. No,

1:01

I don't. I don't have any completed chapters

1:03

that I could share just yet, but I,

1:06

um, how how soon do they want that?

1:11

I could try to do that? So

1:15

hold on, So just two

1:17

or three sample chapters and

1:21

outline whole

1:23

book. Okay, yeah, okay,

1:26

I'm going to get right on that. Thank you, Thank

1:29

you, Linda. Okay, Bye, Jeremy,

1:35

Hey, what are you doing here? Were

1:37

you ever going to tell me that celestis dead?

1:40

Ship? Can

2:16

you please close the door? What the hell

2:18

happened the other night? You were supposed

2:20

to protect her? How exactly

2:22

was I supposed to do that? You gave me nothing to go

2:24

on and was all set up anyway? You were? You

2:27

were never worried about her, of course

2:29

I was. She didn't seem all that surprised

2:32

to see us. You sent us there under false

2:34

pretenses. Yeah. I may not have

2:36

given you the whole picture, but I

2:38

was concerned about what she was going to do. I

2:41

knew she wanted you for the ritual, and I thought, I

2:44

mean, okay, when she

2:46

told me her plan, I just assumed you were an anchor

2:49

for your dad, that she could help him

2:51

pass over. Yeah, well that

2:53

is not what happened. So what did happen? What

2:56

did she tell you she was going to

2:58

do? There? The veil, it

3:01

had been getting weaker and weaker

3:03

for a long time, and she thought there was finally going

3:05

to be a way to close it. She

3:07

thought Thomas was stuck, like he was

3:10

holding the doorway open because he wasn't

3:13

willing sacrifice. So

3:16

you knew, you

3:18

knew that my father had been

3:20

murdered by the gathering by the children

3:23

of Tituba. There was something else,

3:25

something twisted and wrong, that

3:28

is not No, I didn't

3:30

know until that night. She

3:33

told me to come get you, to

3:36

send you an end to her at the ledge. She

3:39

she was going to push Thomas through, finally closed

3:42

the gate for good. But

3:44

she she lied? Didn't

3:47

she that she could close

3:49

the gate without anyone else getting hurt? I

3:52

don't know what she was thinking, but

3:55

yes, she jumped. I'm sorry. Was

3:57

she happy? What not?

4:00

Okay, maybe happy isn't the

4:02

right word. But did she did

4:05

she want to be doing it? I

4:07

don't know, I I think so.

4:10

We tried to stop her. I tried to call out, I tried

4:12

to pull her back, but there was the wind and

4:15

it was all this massive storm and that

4:18

like what happened very

4:20

fast? Wait? Wait, wait, what do you mean there was

4:22

a store? Yeah, there was a store. Don't you remember.

4:26

I don't think there was a store anywhere

4:28

else? Right, of course you

4:31

should have told me, Honestly, Katie, I didn't

4:33

even it

4:36

didn't occur to me. I mean, the last

4:38

three days have been I

4:40

don't know how to begin to describe them to you, and

4:42

I'm not going to, so don't ask. I just

4:46

I know that Celeste should have been more on

4:48

my mind, but I feel

4:51

like I haven't had a chance to breathe. I

4:54

am sorry, she's gone me

4:56

too. How did you find out? I haven't

4:59

see in the papers anywhere

5:02

they I

5:04

mean they called me. Yeah,

5:07

I guess I was listed as one of her emergency

5:09

contacts. They couldn't get a hold of

5:11

any of the others, so eventually

5:14

they hit my name on the list. Do

5:18

you know who the others were? Other members

5:20

of the gathering? I would assume once

5:23

from other places, maybe people Celeste

5:25

used to know, and none of them answered. Is

5:28

this the end of the gathering? Do you think Celeste

5:32

was the leader? Right? Yeah? For

5:35

our chapter at least. And

5:37

things have been scattered the last few days. But I've

5:39

heard what's celested.

5:42

The sacrifice she made, it

5:45

should have calmed everything down. But

5:47

there's been whisperings of another chapter

5:50

leader coming to Bridgewater to

5:52

deal with the fallout. What fallout?

5:55

I don't know. I mean, it's

6:00

not over yet, is it, Honestly, Katie,

6:02

I I have no idea.

6:05

I'm just trying to get back to my life and too, I

6:08

don't know, start getting

6:11

to know that the new the

6:14

new life that this whole situation brought me. Right.

6:17

So, wait, who is this other

6:19

leader? Someone from Virginia? The triangle

6:22

down there, the historic

6:24

Triangle, you know it? Yeah, of course, it's

6:28

very well known area in the folklore

6:30

circles. Well, I guess that

6:32

makes sense. More supernatural activity

6:34

means more members of the gathering, and they're they're

6:37

coming here because something

6:39

went wrong with Celeste's ritual. Yeah,

6:43

I guess do you

6:45

know who it is? A woman named

6:47

Peyton Blake. She's

6:50

the youngest leader in the history of the gathering, apparently

6:53

barely thirty, apparently very

6:55

knowledgeable. Do you think you could give me

6:57

her contact information? I mean, see

7:00

what I can dig up, But I should

7:02

tell you I'm not going

7:05

to try to seek out why

7:07

not. Look, I joined

7:09

the gathering as a way to process my grief about

7:11

my mom, and maybe

7:15

I don't know, maybe I started to believe

7:17

some of it the longer I was part of it. But I'm

7:19

in way over my head now and I'm not sure

7:22

I want to be. Yeah, I know how you feel, but

7:26

I'll try to track her down for you. I

7:30

mean, as much as I want to put all of this behind

7:32

me, you might not be able to. Yeah,

7:38

Katie, I'm

7:40

sorry you have to find out how's the last from

7:43

the police. But you, I

7:45

don't know. You can't expect me to be upfront

7:47

with you when you haven't been up front with me. I

7:49

guess that's fair. Maybe, um,

7:52

you and I could just try being honest with each other

7:54

from now on. If this it really isn't over, then I

7:58

I think we probably want to say thing

8:00

and what's that to make sure that whatever

8:03

is on the other side

8:05

that you all are always talking about doesn't

8:08

come out? Uh wait?

8:12

Did Sless make a believer out of you? After

8:14

all? I

8:17

think there is a lot more going

8:19

on in the Bridgewater Triangle and I originally

8:22

thought let's just say that welcome to the

8:24

club. Look,

8:27

okay, I know that we don't always see but

8:29

Marian and I we want to help.

8:33

I'm not going to go out of my way to get

8:35

involved. But if you need

8:37

people to help you, we're

8:39

here. Thank you. But actually

8:41

I think I'm good. I've already

8:44

got a crack team on it. I'm

8:51

telling you, the plaid is going to make him look like

8:53

the original brownie towel man. Not

8:55

now that the mustache is gone. Oh

8:57

thank god, you're You're the who

9:00

immediately assumed you recognized him from

9:02

that hipster coffee shop. It's the same.

9:04

No, I think the mustache could have been a strong choice,

9:07

too strong that had to go liked

9:11

too bad. Hey, maybe you

9:13

can grow a beard. Beards are so in

9:15

and it would cover your face more. Maybe.

9:20

Hey, so, um, is this what

9:22

you expected for a granddaughter grandfather

9:24

bonding? Oh right, you mean did I expect

9:27

to be spending my Friday helping my dead grandpa,

9:29

who's only like eight years older than we shop for skinny

9:31

jeans. No, not exactly. Well,

9:36

Olivia is right, it's somehow still too

9:38

brawny towel guy. Okay,

9:42

the pants are good, though, way better than the bell

9:44

bottoms. I never wore bell bottoms.

9:46

Okay, Oh, try the button down and the sweater

9:49

next. Hey, thank

9:51

you for coming, by the way, I know this

9:53

whole thing is super weird. Oh

9:55

gosh, no, I am happy to

9:57

do it. I wasn't

9:59

sure I was ready for the full one on one with

10:01

a total stranger and biologically related

10:03

to Yet trust me, I get it. I

10:06

barely want one on one time with my grandparents,

10:09

and I've known them my whole wife. What

10:11

do you all right? What do you? What do

10:13

you think? WHOA, holy

10:15

sh it, you look what? I can't look that

10:17

ridiculous? Can I? We had collared shirts and sweaters

10:20

in the seventies. No, No, you look fine.

10:22

You just you look you just you

10:24

look just like Jeremy, really

10:27

just like him. I mean it is creepy,

10:30

all right. So no, on the sweater. How

10:32

do you feel about Henley? I don't know. I

10:35

have no idea. Great, try it on, that's

10:38

say, okay,

10:42

try it with that bomber jacket and and the black

10:44

jeans. So

10:47

you're not so cozy with the other Karanas?

10:50

Oh no, I mean they're fine. I

10:52

mean they're not super thrilled that I'm spending my life

10:54

doing research on made up

10:56

stories for children. That's what

10:58

they say. But you

11:00

know how it is. They're old. Yeah,

11:03

my dad's parents are kind of like that too.

11:06

I never understood my dad working in tech, and

11:08

so I understand me even less.

11:11

How about your parents? Do they think it's

11:13

all made up nonsense? Oh? Yeah,

11:15

they're religious Hindu, which is

11:18

how I was raised. Actually, Um, actually

11:20

became really obsessed with religion when

11:22

I was a teenager. I went to church

11:25

and temple and the mosque, Buddhist

11:27

centers, basically anything I could

11:29

find. It drove them crazy.

11:32

That is a lot that you ever settle on

11:34

any of them. I still celebrate

11:36

the Hindu holidays with them, but I

11:39

don't know. I've always had a hard time believing

11:41

in God's The idea of a

11:43

more powerful being having an effect

11:46

on all of us just felt strange.

11:49

Ideas about the soul or karma or

11:51

universal forces, even magical

11:53

creatures or monsters like those

11:56

always made more sense to me. So

11:59

I get Hinduism more than a lot of other

12:01

religions, but none of it really feels

12:04

right. Yeah, exactly. I

12:06

guess that's what led me to all of the crypto zoology.

12:09

I do think there's an explanation for most

12:12

of the weird stuff that's happened in the world, for

12:14

the miracles and the ghosts and the myths.

12:17

I just think that maybe our scope of understanding

12:19

it is limited. For some

12:21

people that leads them to religion, and for me,

12:24

let me do what my parents consider bigfoot

12:27

hunting. I've

12:29

never been able to make them see

12:31

that I'm just seeking out the same answers

12:34

that they are with their faith. You know, Oh,

12:36

I can totally picture you

12:38

as a religion obsessed fifteen year

12:41

old. Yeah yeah,

12:43

I mean it's it's all kind of part of that historical

12:46

narrative that you're always talking about. Right,

12:48

So the stories that we tell

12:50

ourselves in religious texts, you

12:52

know, they aren't that different from the myths that we make up

12:54

to explain the unexplainable.

12:57

See, you should talk to my

12:59

parents from me. So I

13:01

guess a lot of those

13:03

things are explainable

13:06

now because monsters

13:08

are real. Well, I'll be sure not to mention

13:10

that part to them. So you know, you should

13:12

probably um ask me out first

13:15

before you go introducing me to your parents. Um,

13:20

I feel ridiculous, like I'm pretending to be

13:22

Jim Morrison or something. Maybe if you kept the shaggy

13:25

haircut. But I think you look perfect.

13:27

Really, I don't look anything

13:29

like myself exactly. And

13:48

hey, Jeremy, our

13:51

things at the university a

13:54

little rocky, They're okay. My

13:57

Dean was weirdly not thrilled that I

13:59

missed the last two days of classes without any morning,

14:01

but I think I was actually able to

14:03

smooth things over, would you tell her? I

14:06

told the truth. Then I had a family emergency.

14:09

I didn't get specifics. I

14:12

couldn't exactly tell her that my dad came back from

14:14

the dead, and I didn't literally

14:19

did not know what day of the week.

14:21

It was fine,

14:23

it's okay. Where is he? Oh, he's

14:25

out with Olivia and Vippen? Why do

14:28

we want shopping

14:30

and getting a haircut? Why?

14:34

The kids thought it might be a good idea for Thomas

14:36

to you know, blend in a little bit more,

14:38

I guess, and Vivin went with

14:40

them. Yeah. I

14:43

think he might really like

14:45

Olivia. I actually think she asked

14:47

him to come along. I'm not sure she was ready to go

14:49

out with Thomas on her own, but you know, yeah,

14:52

juicy gossip. Yeah,

14:55

how's he doing? Man? You

14:57

saw him this morning, Jeremy, I mean, I know,

15:00

no, but I mean, hey,

15:03

thank you for letting me crash

15:05

on your couch. I think I'm just I'm

15:08

not really ready to like

15:13

you don't want to let him out of your side? I get it.

15:16

Does he seem off to you at all?

15:20

Off? How? I don't know, Like this morning

15:22

he was sort of still half asleep and

15:24

he seemed a little bit disoriented. I

15:27

don't know. Maybe maybe he's just not a

15:29

morning person. I know he always liked

15:31

mornings. Maybe he's just, you

15:34

know, he's just not used to sleep and yet or something,

15:37

right, I guess that makes sense. I

15:41

mean, like his food, things,

15:44

his his whole body has to be

15:46

adjusting. Jesus,

15:51

would that have been my room? What your

15:53

guest room? Would that have been? That

15:55

was gonna be my room, wasn't it? Ah? Yeah,

15:59

yeah, that was the plan. Shelley

16:02

would have stayed with us in our room while she was a

16:04

baby, and then you guys might have shared

16:06

for a little bit before we could uh ford

16:08

a bigger place, and then you

16:11

never needed a bigger place? Huh?

16:14

I didn't? And

16:17

what what? What happens? Now? Where

16:19

do we go from here? I have no idea.

16:22

Does he get a job? Does he go back to working

16:25

on the forest? Am I gonna fucking

16:27

die before him? Or is

16:30

he just going to disappear one day in two years

16:32

from now? Because this

16:34

is all just borrowed time. I mean, sweetie,

16:38

you're spiraling? How are you not?

16:40

The man? The man you love

16:43

is back? But and he's

16:45

forty years younger than you. Thanks.

16:48

I noticed. I mean, how does

16:50

any how does any of this work? I

16:52

don't know. I mean we

16:55

did it. You know, we got him back. It's

16:58

more than I could have ever hoped for. Yeah, you

17:01

don't feel like it's it's

17:03

a monkey's paw or something. Well,

17:08

sure I do. I

17:10

mean I got him back, but I can't get the last four decades

17:12

back to spend with them.

17:15

Oh, we miss an entire life

17:17

together. I

17:20

can't mean, you know, I know

17:22

that we can't be together now, not really, but I

17:27

mean there's no life for us to build. Doesn't

17:30

it like eat you

17:32

up? Of course

17:34

it does. But me

17:37

come into terms with the cruel irony

17:40

of my situation is not the same as you waiting

17:43

for the other shoe to drop.

17:46

It's just if

17:48

there's one silver lining to me missing

17:51

out on my life, it's that the two of

17:53

you have gotten yours ahead of you. I mean,

17:57

you're the one that got robbed, Jeremy. I'd

18:00

give up a lot more for you and Shelley to

18:03

have time with your dad. Oh

18:05

my god, Shelly, what

18:08

are you going to tell her? I don't know, I

18:10

don't know. I mean, Olivia doesn't want

18:12

me to keep it from her she doesn't think it's fair.

18:15

Yeah, I'm inclined to agree, But what of

18:17

telling her I'm putting her in danger.

18:19

I mean, there's still something roaming around

18:22

out there, and maybe it's not our problem

18:24

anymore. What Look, Katie

18:26

Frank's came to see me earlier,

18:28

and she says, there's this new gathering leader who's on

18:30

our way up from Virginia and maybe

18:34

she can just take care of this.

18:37

I'm not sure that we can rely on

18:40

a stranger from another state to fix things

18:42

here. I also met someone outside of

18:44

Oakley Farms. You did? Why

18:48

didn't you say? Well, I don't know. I guess I

18:50

just got distracted. It wasn't really much of anything. It's

18:52

just another hobbyist. But she's part of this group

18:54

of legend trippers who have all They've

18:57

come to Bridgewater to look into all the strange

18:59

stuff that's been happening. So maybe we can just

19:01

like keep an eye on them and hear

19:04

about any other attacks

19:06

and then just like I don't

19:08

just go from there. I I

19:11

I don't know. I just think that we can maybe afford

19:13

to do a little outsourcing here, Okay,

19:17

And if all of this really

19:20

is the Fay realm, like Vippen and Olivia

19:22

think, doesn't that mean we're dealing

19:24

with much bigger issue here? I don't

19:26

know, maybe, but Fay

19:28

myths are incredibly broad and until

19:31

we have something concrete, and

19:36

I know my dad wants to get all dan out

19:38

and he wants to figure out what's going on with the in between

19:41

but come on, it took us forty

19:44

years to get him out. Don't

19:47

you think we've done enough? Pass

19:53

the pepper? Here you go. So

19:55

you really think that all of this the in

19:58

between space? What happened

20:00

to me? It's fairies? Um, yep,

20:02

that's the working theory. I thought fairies

20:05

were tiny and armless. That's the modern

20:07

Disney version of them. But the Fay realm,

20:09

well, depending on when and where the myth is from,

20:12

it can encompass so much

20:15

exactly. And the version that's

20:17

small and ambish, like luring children

20:19

into the woods, that appears in so many

20:21

different cultures, like fairies

20:23

and hobgoblins in Europe. Puckweges

20:25

here, right, everyone using different

20:28

language to describe the same thing. Then

20:31

which version of the myth that we think is correct?

20:33

I don't think it's about one group of people

20:35

getting it all right. It might be all

20:37

true to some degree. I mean, it's like

20:39

the Abrahamic religions,

20:41

right. The God is the same across Christianity

20:44

and Judaism and Islam, but a

20:46

lot of the details are different. So what's

20:48

the God in this situation? The

20:51

one unifying thing the

20:54

Phayreom. I guess it appears

20:56

basically in every myth tradition,

20:59

just not always in the same way. The other

21:01

side. That's what the gathering calls it, right all right, I

21:03

think it's a place where spirits are in the

21:05

afterlife essentially. I guess the

21:07

only other soul I saw was Alden. It's

21:09

not always just about the afterlife,

21:12

though. A Mount Olympus could

21:14

be considered the other world, even though

21:16

they had the underworld too, or Valhalla

21:19

or ryugu Jo, a Japanese

21:21

land of dragons under the sea. There there's

21:23

actually a whole folk story about a man

21:25

who went to Ryo Gujo for three

21:28

days and then came back to his life

21:31

years had passed. Sounds familiar. And

21:33

that's not even including the liminal spaces, the river

21:35

sticks, Purgatory, chin vet Bridge.

21:37

Sometimes they're not even places but times.

21:40

The day of the dead, all Hallow's eves

21:43

seances, even any

21:45

place or time that connects this side

21:47

to the other side, whatever the

21:49

other side might be. So we think

21:52

that in between space that Thomas was

21:54

in was really like a halthway to

21:56

the other side, like riversticks.

21:58

It would make sense. Right where did you

22:00

guys learn all this stuff? Well, I'm

22:02

getting my PhD in it, so I

22:04

kind of have to know it all. But Olivia,

22:07

you don't work in folklore like Jeremy Ryan. No,

22:10

but I have access to the Internet. Oh

22:13

did Jeremy explain the Internet to you? It

22:15

sort of honestly sounds just as made up as the Fay Realm

22:17

or some idea of monsters coming

22:19

over a kind of bridge, at least

22:22

that stuff I've actually experienced. Don't worry,

22:24

we'll work up to the dark web. What

22:27

everything seems mysterious when you're

22:29

first learning about it. We think

22:31

of the pay realm and monsters is something

22:33

magical and impossible. But what if they're

22:35

just another species that's

22:38

just really different from ours, like

22:40

those fish that live in the bottom of the ocean,

22:42

another species that lives in another dimension

22:45

with a bunch of supernatural beasts. I know, I

22:47

know, it sounds far fetched. You're dead.

22:49

Grandpa's currently dipping a French fry

22:52

into his milkshake, so it's delicious.

22:54

Yeah, no, I can safely

22:56

say I will never confirm that for myself.

22:59

You're missing out hip him. Wait, what what does

23:01

that make magic? I mean

23:03

Celeste and the children of Titsubo were

23:06

able to open up the gate, So

23:08

so there's something at work here. Whatever it

23:10

is, magic or physics, we don't understand.

23:12

It has to have rules. We

23:15

just need to find out what they are. Okay,

23:17

well, we know that things happen on a forty years

23:19

cycle, and then it seems

23:21

to need two souls at any given

23:24

time. There was someone

23:26

with all them before I appeared. He's

23:28

always had someone with him

23:31

until now. Celest

23:34

didn't get all the way through. She

23:36

broke one of the rules. I

23:38

broke them, and we have no idea what

23:40

the consequences of that are going to be. Come on,

23:43

but let's get out of here, um

23:46

fippin. We'll drop you off at Years on our way, on

23:48

our way to what to deal with some

23:51

of the consequences. Jeremy,

23:58

I don't think Thomas is going to see it that

24:00

way. He feels responsible to all that

24:04

but what about his responsibility to

24:06

us, to himself. Well,

24:08

we can't spend the rest of our lives trying to control

24:10

the Bridgewater Triangle because it's

24:13

out of control. How

24:15

about starting with trying to learn more about

24:18

it? Okay, don't you still have a book to write?

24:20

Honestly, I don't. I don't even know how

24:23

I'm supposed to write a book now. The entire

24:25

premise of it was that people in the Bridgewater

24:27

Triangle have this unique relationship to myth,

24:29

and they're spending centuries stealing legends

24:31

from the Wampanoag and bringing legends of their

24:33

own, then mixing them together to create

24:36

something particular to this

24:38

place. How many times have I said

24:40

this place and it was all about urban

24:43

legends influencing culture and vice

24:45

versa. Accept that, Dada. It

24:47

turns out they weren't really legends

24:49

at all, because people in the Bridgewater Triangle

24:52

have been and are being attacked

24:55

by real fucking monsters. By

24:57

entire life's work is all bullshit. I've

24:59

been made. Reality

25:02

has turned me into a complete

25:04

fraud. And on top of all that, I'm

25:06

the same fucking age as my

25:09

father. I'm sorry, I just like

25:11

I feel like I can't even breathe

25:13

and m hm. I

25:17

understand. I get that, Jeremy, I really do,

25:19

I really do. But

25:22

what about Alton? Okay, is

25:24

just a kid, I know,

25:27

but for

25:29

all we know there is nothing that we can do

25:31

about it. Right? But then what

25:33

about the balance that Celeste was always

25:35

talking about? If whoever whatever controls

25:38

the triangle or the gate or the fucking

25:41

in between whatever this is, isn't happy

25:43

with the way things are, I am quite

25:45

confident that they're going to make it known. Okay,

25:49

then don't you think we should get ahead

25:51

of this? I don't understand what is this about?

25:53

What is it? Why are you so eager

25:56

to find more problems?

25:59

Yeah? Aren't you tired? Of course?

26:03

Of course I am, Honey.

26:05

This is what I do. I figure things out, you know, I mean,

26:07

I fix them. Yeah. But as

26:09

you were just talking about, and you

26:11

missed your entire life because of its

26:14

fair, it isn't And

26:16

you're right, my dad and I we have a chance

26:19

now to really get

26:21

to know each other. Yeah, yes,

26:24

So why the rush, right?

26:27

I mean, we can figure all of this out

26:29

and then you can have that time. But

26:32

I know that you'll both be safe

26:35

and I'm sick of trying to change

26:37

things that I can't control. Do you really think that we can

26:39

figure this out enough to fight against

26:41

it? Celeste did the ritual

26:44

wrong, We're definitely not

26:46

going to do it right. We

26:49

need to enjoy this while

26:52

we can, while we can. What

26:54

if it takes him back? Wait? What?

26:57

This is so much bigger than any of us, and I can't

26:59

I can't to wrap my head around it at all.

27:01

And it was literally, this was literally

27:04

my job to understand all of this crap.

27:07

But now it's it's real.

27:09

The cycle, the balance, the Faye round,

27:12

the goddamn dog all. Then

27:14

it's all so beyond

27:17

my scope that I don't even see the point. I

27:20

don't see the point in trying what I

27:22

do see, I see, I

27:25

see a chance at

27:27

a second chance, And for whatever reason,

27:30

I'm getting that at and

27:32

having a dad, and until something

27:35

happens that forces me to confront all of

27:37

this other shit, that

27:40

is what I am going to focus on. Jeremy

27:44

is not going away again. You don't. You can't

27:47

say that you don't know that, And that is the whole

27:49

point. None of us know anything. Celeste

27:52

is dead, She's not somewhere else. So

27:54

if everything is still fucked up that

27:57

we have a ticking clock here. I'm

27:59

sorry, I just what

28:02

the hell? Power search, earthquake?

28:06

Get away from the windows, and what's

28:08

happening? I don't know? And

28:13

and what do we do? What do we do? I don't know? I

28:15

don't know. Do

28:28

you hear that? What? Nothing?

28:33

There's nothing? Are

28:39

you sure this is a good idea?

28:41

We have to rip the band aid off sometime,

28:44

you know, especially if knowing everything could help her stay

28:46

safe. So the sooner

28:48

the better. But while she's working,

28:51

I figure it lowers the freak out

28:53

chances, trust me, okay, because banks are just

28:55

nice and quiet. Knock

28:58

knock, live, Hi, honey, what are you doing here?

29:01

Sorry for the unexpected drive by,

29:03

but we were in the neighborhood and um,

29:05

did you finish whatever you were helping your nana with? Oh?

29:08

Sorry, Hi, who's

29:11

this? Mom? This is Um

29:14

Thomas. Hello Thomas, I'm

29:16

Shelley. I'm Olivia's mom.

29:22

Yeah I know, so, mom.

29:24

This is UM Thomas Bradshaw.

29:28

Oh hi, okay, Bradshaw

29:30

is in Jeremy's brother. I didn't

29:33

I didn't know he had a brother. Oh no, this

29:35

is not his brother. So I'm just

29:37

gonna tell you some stuff, and I need you

29:39

to know that I'm not messing with you. Live.

29:42

What are you talking about? Does the name Thomas

29:46

Bradshaw sound to get all familiar

29:48

to you? That was Mom's old partner, right,

29:51

the one who died well missing.

29:54

It turns out I'm

29:56

still very much alive you. Uh,

30:02

okay, I don't understand, okay

30:06

right? So um, all that stuff

30:09

Nana told you growing up about Bridgewater

30:11

and how weird it is and how something

30:13

happened to her partner, something that defied

30:15

explanation, Yeah, that was all

30:17

true. And so this is

30:20

Thomas Bradshaw who went missing in except

30:23

he wasn't so much missing as he was trapped

30:25

in a magical to mention where time didn't really

30:27

pass, which is why he looks closer to your

30:30

age than Nana's, even though

30:32

he's really old enough to be your father. And by

30:34

old enough, I mean he is your father

30:36

and my grandfather. So that's

30:39

what's happening. What hi,

30:43

lif Um,

30:46

I don't really understand what you're

30:48

doing. I know it's allowed to take it for

30:51

me too, and I know

30:53

Anne would want to talk to you explain

30:55

everything, but I couldn't wait to meet

30:57

you. I've been waiting to meet you for forty

31:00

uh no, no, you're

31:03

crazy and you're

31:06

you're some sort of scammer or

31:08

a creep. But and then middle

31:10

Mom, this is real, Olivia, it

31:13

is I promise Shelly. You can

31:15

ask me anything you want and I'll tell you everything that

31:17

I can. Really. Okay, listen, I

31:20

don't know what your game is here, but you

31:22

are going to stay away from my daughter. Mom,

31:25

Olivia. It's not your fault, honey. This man is

31:27

clearly praying on you, and so I will

31:30

just stop it. Stop. You

31:33

will get out of here right now, Shelly.

31:35

Please, if you do not leave in the next

31:38

five seconds, I am pressing my panic

31:40

along. Oh my god, Mom, he's not trying to

31:42

rob the player, and then the police will

31:44

be dragging your sick predator asked

31:46

to jail before you can blink. So you have

31:48

options. Mom.

31:52

It's okay. I'll go fantastic

31:55

And if you so much as look at my daughter

31:57

again, I won't wait for the police. Do you understand

31:59

me? Yeah, Okay, just go

32:01

back to Nanna. No,

32:04

do not go near my mother. Mom.

32:06

He's gonna go okay, and and and you

32:08

and I will talk. I

32:10

mean it, stay away from my family,

32:13

Okay, I understand. I am so sorry

32:15

for springing this on you, Shelley. I'm

32:18

so sorry for so

32:20

much. I

32:25

don't understand. How is this happening? I don't know. This

32:27

is not a natural quiet Dad,

32:31

Jeremy, hey you okay? Well,

32:33

actually I need

32:35

to talk to both of you. We need to talk

32:37

to you too. Something just happened. What

32:39

do you mean? Wait, what

32:42

what's going on? Why is everything? Why

32:45

can't I hear anything? We don't know.

32:47

There was this earthquake and then everything went quiet

32:50

inside. So we came out here and it was

32:52

the same thing, an earthquake. I

32:54

don't know that's what it felt like. Was

32:56

it was it quiet when you were walking

32:58

on I

33:00

don't know. I wasn't paying attention really,

33:03

so I guess I would have noticed. This is God,

33:06

Wait, this happened before when

33:08

you went missing, and you remember we were

33:10

combing free down for you and yes,

33:13

and it was unnaturally quiet, like

33:15

we were somewhere else, entirely the

33:18

in between. How is that possible? You can't just

33:21

wander into another dimension. Maybe

33:23

we didn't. Maybe it wasn't about us going into

33:25

the in between, but it was about it coming

33:27

out to us. Maybe ah,

33:29

oh dead, Hey, Okay, what's

33:32

going on? Yeah?

33:34

Yeah, yeah, Thomas, Okay, I'm

33:36

fine. I just got a bit dizzier Dad

33:41

death. This

33:45

episode of Bridgewater was written by Lauren

33:47

Shippen and directed by Brendan Patrick

33:49

Hughes assistant director Sarah

33:52

Klein. Sound designed by Vincent the

33:54

Johnny rema Il Kali, Josh

33:56

Thane, and Trevor Young, with music

33:59

by Chad Austin, starring Misha

34:01

Collins as Jeremy Bradshaw, Melissa

34:04

Ponzio as Anne Becker, Alan

34:06

Tutick as Thomas Bradshaw, Karen

34:09

Sony as Vipen Corona, Sabra

34:12

May as Olivia Hoskins,

34:14

Cheryl Umania as Officer Bautista,

34:17

Will Wheaton as Captain Haddock, Tricia

34:20

Helfer as the Legend Tripper,

34:23

Stephen Guarino as Dr Edwards

34:26

Nandamisu Demba as Peyton

34:28

Blake, Hilary Burton Morgan as

34:30

Shelley Hoskins, Nicki McCauley

34:33

as Celeste Then, Victoria Grace

34:35

as Katie Franks, with additional

34:38

voice acting by Greta Gould, Shelby

34:40

Young, Adam oh Byrne Monty,

34:42

Markham, Charlie Bergman, and Tern

34:45

Westbrook. Executive producers

34:47

Aaron Manky, Misha Collins, Lauren

34:49

Shippin, Matt Frederick and Alexander

34:51

Williams. Supervising producers Josh

34:54

Thane and Trevor Young. Bridgewater

34:56

was created by me Aaron Mankey and

34:59

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35:01

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35:03

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