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1:48

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something incorrect. and

4:00

it's one of the earliest protections of

4:02

individual rights in America. Number

4:04

4, many of the town's historical buildings

4:06

were destroyed in a fire in June

4:10

1667 although one notable building remains,

4:12

the Anne of Cleves House. It's

4:15

so named because it was reportedly given to

4:17

Anne of Cleves after her divorce from Henry

4:19

VIII. And

4:21

finally number 5, East Town Park

4:23

is located in Haver Hill. The

4:25

park has approximately 50 acres

4:27

of meadows and tree belts. According

4:30

to the 2011 census, Haver Hill's

4:32

approximate population is 27,041. This

4:37

week's story began in the mid 1930's

4:39

just a handful of years away from

4:42

the commencement of the Second World War.

4:45

It was during that turbulent decade in

4:47

the midst of the Great Depression that

4:49

a young boy called Paul Norfolk was

4:51

welcomed to the world by his doting

4:53

parents and three elder siblings. Being

4:55

the youngest child in a family of six

4:58

no doubt had its perks as well as

5:00

its frustrations but Paul was much loved by

5:02

each of his family members which led to

5:04

him having a remarkably happy childhood. That's no

5:06

mean feat given he'll have been roughly 5

5:09

years old when the war began. Paul

5:12

was born in the rural Suffolk village of

5:14

Ridgwell around 5 miles southeast of Haver Hill

5:16

and it was there where he'd not only

5:18

spent his formative years but most of his

5:22

life. I couldn't find any family tree or

5:24

background information regarding Paul and his family so

5:26

I can't say for sure what his parents

5:29

did for a living although it's a logical

5:31

guess to say that his dad likely served

5:33

in the British Army. I

5:35

say that because Paul went on to serve himself for

5:37

a brief period when he turned 18 spending 3 years

5:40

in the Army's Royal

5:42

Tank Regiment. Paul

5:44

was well liked by his muckers and they spoke highly

5:46

of him which would be a theme that would follow

5:48

him for the rest of his life. His

5:51

Generosity knew no bounds and despite having

5:53

no kids of his own, none that

5:55

I could find during my research. Anyway,

5:57

he was a kind hearted neighbour to

5:59

the family. Families in his community.

6:02

The. Kids would often refer to him

6:04

by the affectionate nickname uncle. A

6:06

testament to his approachable demeanor

6:08

and endearing personality. His

6:11

time in the army instilled in him

6:13

a discipline on meticulous level of organization

6:15

The can likely only be learned from

6:17

time served in the forces. He.

6:20

Met the woman of his dreams as

6:22

major in those let teenage years and

6:24

quickly asked for her hand in marriage,

6:26

which he julie accepted. The. Loving

6:28

couple would spend the next half century

6:30

together with Poll taken on the role

6:33

of breadwinner by way of his job

6:35

as a farm and or international flavors

6:37

and Fragrances Grip Brand Limited. The.

6:40

American Best Fragrance Business has

6:42

a location and Haverhill. A.

6:44

Loyal, uncommitted man not only in his

6:46

personalized poll spent thirty years at the

6:48

from an acquired a well deserved pension

6:51

for his efforts, something which he hoped

6:53

would see him and as me through

6:55

that golden years. Settling.

6:57

Finally in a semi detached property on

6:59

Castle land in have a Hill, the

7:01

couple gone well with the street or

7:03

the residents. It will one

7:05

of those quintessentially British streets where everyone

7:07

knew each other. Does. It could

7:10

be strive sure but the on looks out for

7:12

each other. Thing. Called a Neighborhood

7:14

Watch I got that kind of vibe from

7:16

the area. He. Could rely on your

7:18

neighbors to watch out for burglars if he went

7:20

on holiday for example. The. Kind of

7:22

nebula community that is in my

7:24

opinion, Lufkin in modern times. In

7:27

Nineteen Ninety Six, Paul acquired the services

7:30

of a solicitor to help him right

7:32

a will. The. Then sixty two

7:34

year old fill the time was right to

7:36

think about the future or rather as miss

7:38

an absurd to leave his entire state including

7:40

his share of the family home to her

7:43

and the event of his death. You'll.

7:45

Understand why I'm mentioning that seemingly

7:48

random information lay around? Throughout.

7:51

The Nineties: Paul accompanied his close friend

7:53

Jeffrey Rimmer on several trips to the

7:55

Far East of to Jeffries long term

7:57

wife passed away. The. To

7:59

be. Their best mates travelled all over and

8:01

experienced things they could only have dreamed of

8:04

until that point but their favourite place to

8:06

visit out of all the countries they saw

8:08

was Thailand. It was

8:10

ironically in 1996, the

8:12

same year that Paul wrote his will, that the

8:14

two became friendly with a woman in her 30s

8:17

who earned money selling sweet treats such

8:19

as donuts to hungry tourists on the

8:21

beach. Her name was

8:23

Bunthawee although she went by the nickname

8:25

Pacer to most people. I've

8:27

no idea how she acquired that nickname but that's how

8:30

I'll be referring to her for the rest of the

8:32

episode. A native

8:34

of Thailand, Pacer didn't have the best

8:36

start in life. Details of

8:38

her early years are not known but she

8:40

became an orphan at the tender age of

8:42

seven. She was forced to

8:44

learn how to survive without any parental help and

8:46

was on her own until she finally met a

8:48

man she would go on to marry in the

8:50

late 70s when she was just 17. With

8:54

her tough upbringing potentially ending, Pacer and

8:56

her husband began their new life and

8:58

brought two children into the world. However,

9:01

the marriage didn't have the happy ever

9:03

after ending she hoped for. According

9:06

to her, the husband in question,

9:08

whose name I don't know, was

9:10

physically abusive towards her which understandably

9:12

led to a breakdown in the

9:14

relationship and a divorce. The

9:17

kids appear to have remained with their

9:19

father though with Pacer left to once

9:21

more fend for herself by offering massages

9:24

to passers by and selling the food

9:26

on beaches. When

9:28

she bumped into Paul and Jeffrey on the beach

9:30

one day, they instantly hit it off. They

9:33

became friends at first but before long,

9:35

Jeffrey and Pacer took their friendship to

9:37

the next level. He was

9:39

her knight in shining armour. With

9:42

their romantic relationship came the opportunity for

9:44

her to escape the difficult life she'd

9:46

experienced thus far. Two

9:49

years after meeting, Jeffrey and Pacer got

9:51

married. Her fairy tale had become

9:53

a reality. She had escaped

9:55

her torrid past and could now begin the

9:58

rest of her life with renewed optimism. If

10:01

you're thinking that Pacer married Jeffrey purely

10:03

for visa reasons and that she truly

10:05

didn't love him, then I completely understand

10:07

your logic. Having said that, for all

10:09

we know, they were soul mates and

10:11

loved each other dearly. Nothing

10:14

I read indicates she married Jeffrey for

10:16

nefarious reasons, but I would like to

10:18

hear your thoughts on that as the

10:20

episode progresses, cos she'll start to notice

10:22

some similar themes regarding Pacer's behaviour as

10:24

we get deeper into the story. Now

10:28

living in the UK with her husband on

10:30

Castle Lane just down the road from Paul

10:32

and Esme, Pacer was finally in a good

10:34

place. She spent 12

10:36

happy years with Jeffrey, during which time

10:39

she became his carer as his health

10:41

inevitably deteriorated as he grew older. Approaching

10:44

his late 70s as the northies

10:46

ended, Jeffrey became reliant on his

10:49

wife despite her receiving no formal

10:51

carer training. Neighbours on

10:53

the street have since said that Pacer

10:55

was beyond incompetent when it came to

10:57

caring for her husband, especially when you

10:59

considered her temperament and lack of patience.

11:03

Wanting to help his wife's family as much as

11:05

possible, Jeffrey had sent funds over

11:07

to Thailand to purchase some land and build

11:09

a home in which her family could live.

11:12

What family that was, I've no idea given she

11:14

was an orphan, but I assume she made ties

11:17

as she grew older. The

11:19

planned building works went ahead. Pacer

11:21

could now rest easy knowing her family back

11:24

home was set up for life and she

11:26

also likely took comfort from the fact she

11:28

had somewhere nice to stay whenever she visited.

11:30

That speaks volumes as to Jeffrey's character and

11:32

the love he had for Pacer. Jeffrey

11:36

sadly passed away in 2010 of natural causes

11:38

at the age of 77. Pacer was frustrated

11:42

to learn that Jeffrey had not left his

11:44

entire estate to her. She only

11:47

inherited his pension, which

11:49

was still substantial, with the rest of his estate,

11:51

including the house on Castle Lane, being left to

11:54

his two daughters from his previous marriage. Now

11:57

a widow, Pacer was left in a

11:59

precarious position. Jeffie's two

12:01

daughters planned to sell the home and explained to

12:03

their mother in law that she would have to

12:05

move out. Reminding her

12:08

that their dad had bought her family land

12:10

and built them a house back in Thailand,

12:12

the sensible option, so they thought, was for

12:14

her to return to her native country. Not

12:17

wanting to do that, Pisa came up with a plan.

12:20

She informed the two sisters that there were

12:22

plenty of other men interested in her, some

12:24

of whom lived just up the road and

12:27

that she would not be returning to Thailand

12:29

any time soon. Given

12:31

she knew Paul from the time he spent

12:33

in Thailand with Jeffrey, she reconnected with him

12:35

and offered her services as a carer. By

12:38

that point Esme was in a bad way. She

12:41

had early onset dementia and had recently

12:43

suffered a fall which left her both

12:46

physically and mentally incapable of looking after

12:48

herself. Before

12:50

any of the neighbours knew what was happening,

12:52

Pisa moved into the home Paul shared with

12:55

Esme and became her full time live in

12:57

carer. One neighbour

12:59

mentioned on an episode of Nurses Who Kill

13:01

which covered this case in season 3 episode

13:03

8 that Pisa was just

13:05

there one day. There was

13:07

no apparent adjustment period, she just moved in

13:10

randomly and never left. The

13:12

story will continue after these quick

13:14

messages. And

13:17

now back to the story. Paul

13:20

had relied on Esme massively throughout

13:22

their marriage. She was the one

13:24

who cooked, cleaned and ensured the house was

13:26

kept tighter. He never learned

13:28

how to cook or fend for himself so

13:30

given Esme's health he greatly appreciated having another

13:33

pair of hands in the house. Paul

13:36

had his own health issues which again

13:38

Esme was previously responsible for helping him

13:40

manage. He had type 2

13:42

diabetes which required regular insulin shots.

13:46

Pisa therefore also took on the role

13:48

of Paul's carer but she reportedly didn't

13:51

do a great job. Others

13:53

Recalled seeing Paul look frailer than usual once

13:55

she moved into the house and it would

13:57

later be revealed that Paul was not given.

14:00

His insulin as often as he should have.

14:03

When. As May suffered a stroke, her

14:05

condition deteriorated so drastic less that the

14:07

decision was made to plaza in a

14:09

nursing home After a brief stint in

14:12

respite care. The. Care Is

14:14

weren't happy with the level of care she

14:16

was receiving at home which made the decision

14:18

to plaza into full time care easier. But.

14:21

Left Tessa alone with Paul, who's

14:23

appearance then became even more disheveled.

14:26

Them before. The. Pair

14:28

decided to visit Cylons shortly after as

14:30

me was taken out of them are

14:32

or home but it wasn't a great

14:34

trip for pods you to his insulin

14:36

apparently going missing. He

14:38

got incredibly sick and things didn't get much

14:41

better upon their return to the You Care.

14:44

The. Neighbors felt like they were practically doing passes

14:46

job for when it came to care and

14:48

for Paul. The. Scraps the heads

14:50

and wounded what on earth piss was

14:52

doing and where the paul was receiving

14:54

any care. Concerns were

14:56

raised. the Paul was not a in due to the

14:58

my of where he appeared to be losing. Given.

15:01

He couldn't cook was pace a staff and

15:03

him by not doing so either. She.

15:06

Would let or insist that she and Paul

15:08

we're in a relationship and sell it was

15:10

her duty to make him suffer. If.

15:12

So that goes against reports that claim

15:14

Paul was becoming more and more depressed

15:17

as the days and weeks passed due

15:19

to effectively lose in his darling wife

15:21

of almost fifty years. In.

15:24

Early Twenty Eleven, Paul once more

15:26

acquired the services of a solicitor.

15:28

This. Time He wanted to change his will

15:31

and leave everything to pass. A. The.

15:33

Solicit a did everything he code as

15:35

far as due diligence is concerned for.

15:37

Because Paul was of a sound mind,

15:39

he have no choice but to make

15:42

the requested amendments. The. First,

15:44

just the house was left to pass

15:46

us by up Turbo Paul's entire stairs.

15:48

Worth around three hundred and forty grand.

15:50

as fond and seventy nine grand in

15:52

today's money was to be left to

15:54

her. As mate was completely

15:56

removed from the will. As

15:59

we approach the. tragic events of this story in

16:01

December 2011, it was

16:03

on Friday the 29th that Paul visited

16:05

his bank's local branch and sent a

16:07

large sum of money to an associated

16:10

bank account held in Thailand which was

16:12

more than likely in Pacer's name. That

16:15

evening Paul had a beer or two before

16:17

bed as he typically did which sent him

16:19

quickly into a deep sleep. The

16:21

next day he was due to meet his

16:23

brother Peter at a pub in Cambridge for

16:26

a beer and a catch up but he

16:28

uncharacteristically didn't turn up. Peter

16:30

knew how unlike Paul it was to no

16:32

show such a pre-planned meeting without so much

16:34

as a word so he immediately called upon

16:37

Paul's neighbours to ask if they had heard

16:39

from him. Some

16:41

neighbours went over to Paul's house and knocked on

16:43

the door but nobody appeared to be home. His

16:46

spaniel Billy would normally bark like mad

16:49

whenever the door went but on this

16:51

occasion the house inside fell silent. After

16:54

a short while the decision was made

16:56

to inform the police who gained permission

16:58

to enter the property forcibly after speaking

17:00

with Peter. Their attempts at

17:02

gaining a response by knocking on the door

17:05

had also gone unanswered. Anxiously

17:07

watching on as the officers made their way

17:09

inside Paul's neighbours spotted his hat and coat

17:12

hung up on a rack. Paul

17:14

never left the house without his hat

17:16

on so the neighbours immediately knew he

17:18

was inside. They feared the worst.

17:21

The swift and thorough search of the

17:23

house ended with officers securing the property

17:26

after discovering the bodies of both Paul

17:28

and Pacer in an upstairs bedroom. They

17:31

were lying next to each other and there was

17:33

blood all over the bed and walls. Paul

17:36

had severe injuries to his head and was

17:38

pronounced dead at the scene. Pacer

17:40

on the other hand appeared to have met

17:43

the same fate but had a faint pulse

17:45

and was still breathing. She

17:47

was quickly taken away to Adambrooks hospital

17:49

in Cambridge to be treated for her

17:51

injuries. Detectives spotted

17:54

some concerning items dotted around

17:56

the bedroom including a claw

17:58

hammer, a cleaver, two-line large

18:00

kitchen knives, a broken necklace, an

18:02

empty packet of pills and some

18:04

toilet cleaner. Given

18:06

the doors to the property were locked, it

18:08

didn't appear as though a third party had

18:11

inflicted the injuries sustained by Paul and Pacer.

18:14

It wasn't a robbery gone wrong for example.

18:17

Three possible scenarios were played out.

18:20

1. Pacer had killed Paul and then tried to

18:23

kill herself. 2.

18:25

Pacer had killed Paul and then tried to cover

18:27

it up by harming herself without intending to

18:29

kill herself. 3. The two

18:31

had a heated argument which ended with

18:34

Paul's death. The

18:36

following day detectives arrested Pacer on

18:38

suspicion of murder at the hospital

18:40

before she was moved to Berson-Edmonds

18:42

Police Investigation Centre to be questioned.

18:46

The forensic pathologist who conducted Paul's

18:48

post-mortem confirmed that his cause of

18:50

death was due to head injuries

18:52

inflicted by a blunt object. Given

18:55

the items found at the scene, the weapon

18:57

in question must have been the claw hammer,

18:59

but what were the knives for then? After

19:02

killing Paul, Pacer took an excessive

19:04

quantity of pills, some sources claim

19:07

they were anti-depressants, drank the toilet

19:09

cleaner, stabbed herself in the chest

19:11

and attempted to slash her own

19:13

throat. When she

19:15

had sufficiently recovered from her injuries, Pacer

19:18

appeared at Ipswich Crown Court in March

19:20

2012 and entered a plea

19:22

of not guilty regarding Paul's murder. She

19:25

claimed during police interviews that her relationship with

19:27

Paul had become abusive, much like her first

19:29

marriage had, but how much truth there is

19:32

behind that claim I can't say. By

19:35

the time her trial began that July, she

19:37

had admitted to having killed Paul but insisted

19:39

it was not murder. Claiming

19:42

to have been hearing a voice in her

19:44

head on the morning of December 30th, she

19:46

said it was saying the word dead over

19:48

and over. Pacer said, I

19:51

felt unhappy, hot like fever,

19:53

my heart was beating very fast, I felt

19:55

as if I'd heard something in my head,

19:57

as if someone was cursing me. if

20:00

I was a bad person." Andrew

20:03

Jackson for the prosecution dismissed any claims

20:05

of depression and mental illness by indicating

20:07

just how much of a sustained attack

20:10

it was that led to Paul's death.

20:13

In total, Pacer hit Paul over the head with

20:15

the claw hammer 12 times and

20:18

by the time she'd finished he

20:20

was still reportedly alive, albeit barely.

20:23

His estimate had it took Paul 15

20:25

hours to die, during which time Pacer

20:27

did nothing to help him. She

20:30

didn't call for an ambulance or attempt to

20:32

save him, she simply lay there with him

20:34

before finally attempting to take her own life.

20:38

Mr Jackson added, He

20:40

did not move, he did not struggle,

20:42

he was probably asleep when he was

20:44

murdered. Attempting

20:47

to somewhat justify her actions, Pacer told

20:49

the court that she felt uneasy and

20:51

sad because Paul had told her he

20:53

no longer wanted to carry on with

20:56

their relationship after meeting another woman. She

20:59

said she'd never thought of killing him

21:01

and vaguely remembered grabbing the hammer and

21:03

three knives, although she didn't recall actually

21:05

hitting Paul with a weapon or seeing

21:07

any blood. Dr

21:09

Gillian Mezze, a consultant psychologist, put

21:11

across her opinion that Pacer's mental

21:14

health was indeed a factor in

21:16

her killing Paul. She

21:18

said, The depressive disorder

21:20

from which Mrs Rimmer was suffering

21:23

was a significant contributory factor in

21:25

explaining why she killed Paul Norfolk.

21:28

The jury was far from convinced and

21:30

returned from retiring after just over 7

21:32

and a half hours. They

21:35

found Pacer guilty of murder by weight of

21:37

a majority decision and she was subsequently handed

21:39

a life sentence with a minimum term of

21:41

11 years. Sentencing

21:44

judge Mr Justice John Saunders said,

21:47

I do not lose sight of the fact that a decent

21:49

man has lost his life in a brutal fashion at the

21:51

age of 77. Paul

21:54

Norfolk was by all accounts a

21:56

well-liked, decent man. His death

21:58

is a tragedy for his family. some

22:00

of whom have given evidence and demonstrated

22:02

admirable fairness and restraint in the way

22:05

they did this. No

22:07

one should lose their life in the way

22:09

that Paul Norfolk did. It was a wicked

22:11

thing to do, as I am satisfied the

22:13

defendant recognized and led to her trying to

22:15

kill herself. I am

22:17

satisfied that the defendant's account that Paul Norfolk

22:19

was saying that he was going to dispense

22:21

with her services as a carer was untrue.

22:23

It is inconsistent with the

22:26

rest of the evidence which was to the

22:28

effect that Paul Norfolk was saying he couldn't

22:30

live without the defendant. Pesa's

22:33

minimum term ended in 2022 and it

22:35

was in August of that year when

22:37

her parole appeal took place. A

22:40

month later she was informed that her parole

22:42

bid had been rejected. The possibility

22:45

of moving her to an open prison

22:48

was also discussed and rejected. The

22:50

three people representing the parole board were

22:52

not convinced that Pesa had made significant

22:55

progress in prison. They felt

22:57

she was too dangerous to be held

22:59

in open prison conditions. I'll

23:02

end this story by answering a question any

23:04

dog lovers listening will have no doubt asked

23:06

during the story. What happened

23:08

to Billy, Paul's spaniel? You'll

23:11

be delighted to hear that Paul's

23:13

family successfully re-homed him. And

23:18

that was the story of the murder of Paul

23:20

Norfolk. Thanks again Marie Garner for requesting that case,

23:23

I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. This

23:26

week's four new reviews are as follows. Mandy

23:29

Lou left a five star review on britishmurders.com. It

23:32

reads, love the podcast, keeps me going during my

23:34

parcel deliveries which at this time of year is

23:36

a nightmare. Discovered it around

23:38

six weeks ago and I'm already up to season 11.

23:42

Love the facts, your empathy toward the victims

23:44

and their families, not to mention how cute

23:46

your daughter sounds during your icebreakers. If

23:48

I was being really picky I would

23:50

criticise, but only slightly, your pronunciation of

23:53

Welsh place names etc as others have

23:55

already said. I did tell you

23:57

it was a sort of a running joke didn't I? also

24:00

find it quite amusing. If you want someone

24:02

who can send you pronunciations of Welsh place

24:04

names etc, feel free to get in touch

24:06

via WhatsApp and I can send you voice

24:08

messages to help. Chantelle

24:12

left a 5 star review on britishmurders.com

24:14

which reads, As a Yorkshire

24:16

girl, Barnsley, I love Stu's accent. Came

24:19

across the podcast after listening to a

24:21

similar Australian podcast, but this one is

24:23

my fave by far. I've caught up

24:25

now and it's killing me to have

24:27

to listen weekly. Discovered Bobby Holmes

24:29

through this podcast and love her, so I'm

24:31

now listening to killer stories. Keep up the

24:34

amazing work. Mike Uxlong

24:36

left a 5 star review on britishmurders.com. It's

24:38

short and sweet and it reads, Love the

24:40

show. Not too long and not too short.

24:43

Finally, Rhett Eubanks left a 5 star

24:45

review on britishmurders.com. It reads, The show

24:47

is so well done and Stuart rocks.

24:49

I'm such a huge fan and can't

24:51

wait for more. I love the show

24:53

Des on Prime with David Tennant about

24:56

Scottish serial killer Dennis Nilsson. I'd love

24:58

to hear an episode about him. Keep

25:00

on keeping on Stu from Hertford, New

25:02

York. Well, Rhett, I did actually

25:04

cover Dennis Nilsson. I did a two-parter. I

25:06

forget what season special it was, but I

25:08

have done Dennis Nilsson, so go check that

25:10

out. Thank you Mandy Lou,

25:12

Chantelle, Mike and Rhett for leaving those

25:14

reviews. If you'd like to leave a review

25:16

of the show and have it read on

25:19

a future episode, you can do so on

25:21

iTunes, Facebook, Podchaser or at britishmurders.com. You can

25:23

also leave star ratings on Spotify. Please

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consider heading to patreon.com/British Murders and

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signing up for a membership. If

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25:34

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25:38

as well as my British Murders

25:40

weekly journal series. I also

25:42

do Patreon exclusive giveaways from time to time.

25:44

There is another one coming up very soon

25:46

and you'll get some thank you goodies for

25:48

signing up as well. Just

25:50

want to say hello and welcome

25:52

to my newest Patreon members, Graham,

25:54

EJ, Shebrucks, Fiona Richardson, Elaine

25:56

Lytham, Susan Hislop, Jessica Darby

25:59

and Jessica. Jessica Sullivan. If

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26:06

by heading to buymeacoffee.com/britishmurders. Please

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continue emailing any case suggestions to contact

26:10

at britishmurders.com or you can message me

26:12

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26:14

comment on one of my YouTube videos.

26:16

You will get the episode covered when

26:18

I get round to it. You'll also

26:20

get a cheeky shout out for your

26:22

trouble just like Marie did. And that

26:24

does us for another episode. I've

26:26

been Stuart Blues. This has been British

26:28

Murders. Thanks so much for listening. Until

26:31

next time. Cheerio.