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yeah, just ringing you back about the idea

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of mine English scandal? I just don't L

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L. E. Some of a book?

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Yeah. So basically we just find somebody who's

0:17

obsessed with power and money. And Boomers Yeah,

0:20

I'm just I'm just gonna finish. I'm gonna

0:22

wrap this up And then Ochre. Preferably with

0:24

like a family, they can abandon large amounts

0:26

of privilege. Hormone. What's. Wrong

0:28

going on the phone to my mom. For

0:32

jobs other was who was going

0:34

on have been so paranoid recently.

0:37

I wouldn't bring the confessor and feed them. trade.

0:39

Secrets My. I'm. Gonna have to

0:41

call you back but I'm do something on Jeffrey Archer.

0:43

They love that! I love Jeffrey Archer. Couple of

0:45

your mom does as well. May

0:50

Nineteen: Forty Survey Farm

0:52

Denim Buckinghamshire. Gene.

0:56

Gillis pads cautiously across the landing.

0:58

She's careful to avoid the loose

1:00

floorboard near the top step as

1:02

she pushes her air against her

1:05

mistresses closed bedroom door. She leans

1:07

in and listens as Diana pairs

1:09

into the phone. Call

1:12

it won't be forever with war.

1:14

will be over very shortly. Gene

1:18

ignores the sound of the children

1:20

playing downstairs as governor to Diana's

1:22

to eldest son's she should be

1:24

with them right now, not spying

1:26

on her mistress. Gene.

1:31

Leans in closer when she has

1:33

an odd rattling. Then

1:36

flinches in horror as she realizes

1:38

it's Diana turning the brass door

1:40

knob. Gene

1:42

turns and fleas down the stairs and

1:44

into the kitchen. She grips the pine

1:47

table, her mind racing. She

1:49

holds her breath waiting for Diana's

1:52

footsteps to recede into the nursery.

1:54

The baby is due his next

1:56

feed. That should give Gene just

1:58

enough time. He

2:01

carefully think the stove. An

2:05

open scientists that room door shut and

2:07

quickly behind her, she makes a beeline

2:09

for the mahogany dresser. And

2:12

wrenches open. The top drawer.

2:14

she knocks something to the

2:16

floor stairs. Silver framed

2:19

photographs of Hitler. So.

2:22

That's the wedding present for us of Hitler.

2:25

Can you imagine if there was more the

2:27

mom multiples. City every season.

2:29

just a fresh one. Searles the spring

2:31

split something Christmas he. He

2:34

rises to selling kit used

2:36

makeup oh checkbook. Searching

2:38

for the dialing. Finally,

2:42

Her hand closes around a little

2:44

love. Abound Black book. Three.

2:47

Help you with something teen. Teen

2:51

Wells round and. Diane's

2:54

is staring at. The

2:56

baby nestled in the crook of her on.

2:59

A stun six on her face.

3:02

Gene, not just the drawer sat with her head.

3:05

She comes with a movie in her pocket. Diana

3:08

know. She. Must know.

3:11

Team Feals Diana's icy blue eyes Boring.

3:15

She does something to say

3:17

her mind is buying. I

3:20

was. I was a fucking. When.

3:23

Has allowed cluster from downstairs.

3:26

The boys arranging about all over the place.

3:28

Is it not time for the next lesson?

3:32

Sorry, you're quite right. Time

3:34

to rest of us against the door and

3:36

just the to leave. Seen

3:39

seals down his eyes driving into her

3:41

a she slipped proved. In

3:45

her little schoolroom seen flights the diary

3:47

into. Her. Desk drawer. Her.

3:49

Face burns, Offices.

3:52

thinking. Opening a

3:54

textbook, she tries to turn her mind on

3:56

to her work. This

3:58

ridiculous fine business. Have to

4:00

stop. Oh so she

4:02

is a serial offender. She loves the snape mean

4:05

we all do. don't worry I was think it's

4:07

very unfair when people get a reputation for being

4:09

Nicholson because you think on we will. Also.

4:11

Smothered In said it has a social function.

4:13

Upset You want process loving and I

4:15

think it is the academic insight that

4:18

really just devices like in each other

4:20

of behind other. She

4:23

looks up to san his eldest sons

4:25

Desmond and Jonathan Marks into the room

4:27

that seeks flushed in fresh from the

4:29

game as soon as it. Is

4:32

closer. To

4:34

manage is a good natured smile.

4:37

Jonathan comes to an abrupt halt.

4:39

He thrusts his hand and the

4:41

and Heil Hitler. Seen.

4:44

Stares at him in shock. What

4:47

did you say? See. Looks around the

4:49

room and panic. Whispers.

4:51

He was never say that

4:54

the boys shrinks eyes wide

4:56

with confusion. Mummy

4:58

to. Color

5:06

drains from teens face. She

5:10

snapped south in the Draw takes the

5:12

diary a march purposely out of the

5:14

room. She had

5:16

down south. To. The telephone in the

5:18

servants' quarters check no one's listening,

5:21

gets out the numbers the have

5:23

contact at and my size. But

5:26

as she's about to, dial. She

5:28

thinks that the children ten week

5:30

old baby max. She

5:33

knows she has enough evidence to put them

5:35

other away for good. But

5:37

Diana's always been kind to her. Teens

5:40

and help us as a

5:43

telephone. It's time to tease

5:45

her Mr. Oh

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Candles. Okay,

7:39

so Matt, I'm sort of painting you into a corner

7:41

here. If I asked you to say one positive thing

7:43

about our Nazi protagonist Diana Mosley,

7:45

what would it be? Well, it wouldn't

7:47

be the politics. Sorry to disappoint you. But

7:49

you kind of have to respect her level

7:52

of dedication to the cause in which she

7:54

truly believes. She is prepared to sacrifice her

7:56

relationship with her sisters. She is

7:58

prepared to tolerate... Her husband,

8:00

a federally humiliates enough by having various

8:03

affairs as you progress. Security risks for

8:05

their own security and safety. She puts

8:07

his of in dangerous situations for the

8:10

cause in which he believes that even

8:12

though it's an ideology, the is totally

8:14

appalling. In a strange way says

8:16

remarkable strength of tell it to muffled and Santa

8:18

Ana nicely that I wanted to. A certain things

8:21

have been combing and we have enough mr that

8:23

the saw a couple of us at. The

8:25

base. So having now done

8:27

a lot sandals about Zealot,

8:29

what is your instinct about

8:31

what's gonna happen next? Well,

8:34

Some say since to says that listens

8:36

and failure spots. as we know from

8:38

previous series of presses scandals. if you

8:40

come from particular straws for society, the

8:43

rules all different. She has friends in

8:45

very powerful places on both sides of

8:47

the war both Hitler, I'm Churchill. She

8:49

has a constituency of at least three

8:52

thousand British Union of Fascists. People can

8:54

be no are prepared to take to

8:56

the streets and conceiving with police for

8:58

what they believe. So very hard to

9:01

know how hard the folds gonna beat.

9:03

If. She falls. It's all well done under

9:05

your hand. It is is episode three.

9:08

She's. Sitting on. A

9:13

few. Weeks later did in prison

9:15

London. San. Is

9:17

only the just to the darkness as she

9:20

makes away and the small doesn't visitors when.

9:23

She jumps as the large metal date

9:25

slums against the stand move. She

9:28

ignores the prison guards eyes on her as

9:30

she scans the tables in search of Muslims.

9:33

Finally she spots and. Hunched

9:35

as a table in the corner. She.

9:38

Bites her lip, It's

9:40

only been a few weeks since his

9:42

arrest. The she barely recognize isn't. Stubble

9:45

traces his cheeks. Is loose fitting.

9:47

Blue and white prison guard stained

9:49

his arm. the riddled with sleep.

9:53

For. East and assists war era

9:55

Victorian. He sanders a Night of

9:58

My Civic Center specific. I

10:01

also enjoy that she's like, let himself go a bit,

10:03

it's like he's in prison, sorry that his clothes are

10:05

stained. They keep nicking my grab, but

10:08

I think that was Stokesy on D-Wing with

10:10

shanks and nuts. Fixing

10:13

what she hopes is a convincing smile, Diana

10:16

rushes over to him. She

10:18

reaches forward and strokes his hand with her thumb, but

10:20

then recoils in disgust. His

10:23

nails are black, his fingers

10:25

discoloured. She tries

10:27

to correct herself, but sees that Oswald

10:29

has noticed. Little Alexander

10:32

is getting awfully good at his walk in. Put

10:35

him down and he's... But Oswald's

10:37

expression is stony. He cuts

10:39

in. Any news on the

10:41

lawyer? Diana keeps her

10:44

voice brisk and upbeat. Yours

10:46

doesn't think he's equipped to deal with your case,

10:49

and mine doesn't have capacity. Oh

10:51

come on girl, you've got to get me out of here. You having

10:53

a giraffe? That is such a dressing

10:55

up of... You're screwed, isn't it? Yours?

10:58

Erm, not equipped. Mine too busy, and that's

11:00

all the updates I've got for today. Also,

11:03

couldn't you have got me a different lawyer

11:05

if mine isn't equipped? Please, I'm in here. I'm

11:07

banged up, you mean? I'm looking at a fire

11:10

stretch. Very good. Diana

11:13

has spent the past two weeks trying

11:15

to secure a barrister, but no one

11:17

is willing to defend a so-called traitor.

11:21

She watches Oswald sink back into his chair.

11:24

If lawyers who know me won't represent me,

11:26

who know my good character, I'll

11:29

find someone, darling, I promise. Things

11:31

have just been... difficult.

11:35

Her hand rises instinctively to her face as

11:37

Oswald looks at her. She

11:39

hopes he can't see how drawn she looks after

11:41

weeks of no sleep. Her

11:43

eyes read raw from crying. Diana,

11:47

has something happened? I'm fine.

11:51

But her voice wavers. I

11:53

don't want to burden you. But

11:55

Oswald snaps. Come on, out

11:58

with it. If Something's happening to my family... The

12:00

really. Surprised. By

12:02

his sharp turn, Diana breaks

12:04

down hot angry tears. Other

12:07

prisoners stand. But. She's

12:09

to hopeless to care. The

12:12

to humor has. Supposed to.

12:14

Everything we've been through Fantasies:

12:16

Awesome for two. Titan. What

12:20

do you mean? taking

12:22

common tearing it said

12:24

that she spits who

12:26

effort. Diana

12:28

recoils and so as also sister

12:30

slammed against the metal tape. He

12:34

pushes like a tear to haunt, sending

12:36

it skittering across the stone floor. Suddenly

12:40

a prison bell blair and Dionysius.

12:43

The. Thick that prison guard. Cool

12:45

time. We suddenly hudson minutes.

12:48

But also old is already being tracked

12:50

received with feet unbundled to with. A

12:56

few minutes later Santa finds herself back

12:58

out in the tank morning as under

13:00

the looming certain. That the prison was.

13:03

Exhausted and hopeless. She feels

13:05

like she could crumples to the pavement. She

13:08

makes her way over to her com

13:10

spots the children in the backseat. Gene

13:13

is holding Batina. Famous

13:15

for his love of constants of he said that's that's

13:18

that's a. Good Max

13:20

Mosley of course. This is weird thing

13:22

it was a bath for. Formula One

13:24

guy and you know it's over stuff.

13:26

He was into. Sex. Parties?

13:29

Yes, that's correct. For.

13:31

So not a detailed I'm suggesting that. Have

13:33

had to go to Pluck to say it.

13:36

Certain. Tableau News pubs insinuated that

13:38

with a Max Elements we sex

13:41

parties and he successfully sued them

13:43

because his doubles Oswald for times

13:45

where the Max was a Nazis

13:47

well but note just a plain

13:49

normal average sex parties have a.

13:52

Gene is holding a baby. Now. Than

13:56

it needs to stay strong. She's

13:58

all had children have no. But

14:01

it might rain suffer fools. She knows

14:03

you can't do this alone. She

14:06

needs to tend to some and

14:08

right now there's only one person

14:10

she know. The

14:18

next day. Twenty six Butlin Gate

14:20

London. Down a

14:22

heap the promo effects of the detached terms

14:24

of And Russell's The Dawn of The. She

14:28

tapped the foot anxiously. She went. She

14:32

hadn't seen her sister since. Alcove made a promise

14:34

to cut amount of her life. She

14:37

takes a deep breath as she sees

14:39

Nancy call back the door and surprise.

14:43

An uncomfortable silences to spend.

14:46

What are you doing here? Can we

14:48

come in? Fantasies: Nancy

14:50

glimpse into Mack this problem before

14:53

nodding or quitting. She follows Nancy

14:55

down a dark staircase into a

14:57

basement flat line between in the

15:00

drawing room. Along

15:02

brocade so suspended the width of

15:04

one more three when back tears

15:06

a crowd of near the fire

15:08

if you must know upset been

15:10

used for the war effort to

15:12

rehouse Jewish families. Than

15:15

opens her mouth and surprise

15:17

that Nancy Cutthroat. Please don't

15:20

start. I didn't say anything.

15:24

This is got strong. Family.

15:26

Christmas break down and the just. Oh

15:28

wow, what happens your family Christmases?

15:31

The simmering sibling rivalry have some

15:33

very right wing people around the

15:35

table. Santa.

15:39

Purchase awkwardly on the sofa as a maid

15:41

carries a tray. Is T into the room? Nancy

15:45

takes an elaborate china cup and zip

15:47

said. She didn't come to

15:49

Nancy's house to drink tea. She

15:51

takes a deep castle breath. I'm

15:54

sure you're wondering. life come. I

15:57

suppose. i just need someone

15:59

to talk to. With

16:02

what's happened to Oswald, I can't begin to tell

16:04

you how dreadful everything is." Diana

16:07

hasn't really spoken to anyone since Oswald's

16:09

arrest, and she's surprised at the emotion

16:11

in her voice. She

16:13

hears herself choke. She wipes

16:15

her eyes. She looks up at

16:17

her sister, expects her to rush to

16:19

her side, tell her everything is

16:22

going to be alright. But

16:24

Nancy just gently rocks Max on her

16:26

knee, stony-faced. I

16:28

don't know what you expect me to do, Diana. You

16:30

made your bed when you chose Oswald over me. Diana's

16:34

voice cracks. You

16:36

lampooned everything I—everything Oswald—believes

16:39

in! And look where

16:41

your dangerous beliefs have got us. Diana

16:44

stares at her sister, dumbfounded. It's

16:47

thanks to you our little sister ran off

16:49

to Germany and ended up half-paralysed with a

16:51

bullet in her brain. Diana

16:53

recoils, horrified. You

16:56

think what happened to Unity

16:58

was—she was young and impressionable. You

17:00

filled her head with all kinds of nonsense.

17:05

Diana feels a sharp pain

17:07

in her chest. I—I never

17:09

introduced Unity to—but Nancy

17:12

cuts in. Diana, Unity had

17:14

never heard of fascism before you

17:16

introduced her to Oswald. I

17:18

never meant for Unity. I tried

17:21

to bring her back. I tried

17:23

to tell her. She feels herself

17:25

collapse into the sofa, as

17:27

the past few weeks all come tumbling out.

17:30

I—I tried. I—I— But she

17:32

can't control her breathing. I

17:35

tried. And now I

17:37

can't even use my own phone

17:39

because I can't trust anyone. She

17:41

can't order her thoughts. I'm

17:44

being mugged. I can't even— Diana

17:47

looks up as Nancy mumbles. Diana,

17:50

I'm sure that's not true. It

17:52

is. I swear. I can't find

17:54

my diary. I have nowhere to

17:56

live. And everyone I see, I think they're

17:58

following me and— Diana fills

18:00

Nancy's weight next to her, then

18:03

her arms around her as she sobs into

18:05

her sister's chest. You

18:07

just need a good night's sleep. Yeah,

18:12

that'll solve all the fascism. Sleep off

18:15

the fascism. Oh, morning everyone. I

18:17

tell you what, I'm feeling very left wing this morning.

18:19

Heh! I'm just so scared they're

18:21

going to come for me. You've all my

18:23

trips to Germany against me. And

18:25

the gifts. What gifts?

18:29

Good little donations from Uncle Wolf,

18:31

if they find out about that. Nancy

18:34

places a gentle reassuring hand on the

18:36

small of her back. Diana,

18:39

whatever you've done, you're my

18:41

sister. Diana

18:43

gazes into Nancy's eyes, overwhelmed

18:46

with gratitude. You

18:49

can tell me anything. She

18:52

feels a weight lift off her shoulders as

18:54

she realizes she has so much she needs to

18:57

get off her chest. She's

18:59

been so lonely, so isolated.

19:02

She clasps her sister's hands in her own and

19:05

resolves to tell her everything. At

19:10

the very least, this is incredibly naive. It's been

19:12

five years since she cut her sister off in

19:14

order to live with the fascist. And obviously,

19:17

Unity injured herself a year

19:19

ago and she still didn't

19:21

make contact, so this feels incredibly

19:23

self-serving. Yeah, and injured herself is putting

19:25

it lightly. I mean, what Unity went through

19:28

is so severe, you can't

19:30

believe that Diana wouldn't have gotten in touch

19:32

after that. So this could be one

19:34

of two things. This could be that

19:36

she's made an ideological decision and that

19:38

she is very firm when she takes that sort

19:40

of stance. Or that she was kind of under

19:42

the spell with Oswald, where she feared him leaving

19:44

so badly that she just couldn't

19:47

bring herself to break the wall of silence. This

19:49

is what romance does to people. An

19:52

hour later, Nancy perches on a hard wooden

19:54

chair in front of a ruddy MI5 agent.

19:58

The office is dingy. No more

20:00

than a cupboard, deep in the

20:02

bowels of wormwood scrubs. The

20:05

agent flicks through a large file. His

20:07

hair is coated in too much wax. A

20:10

stumpy cigarette hangs from his lip. A

20:13

statement from you could really help us get

20:15

this over the line. What

20:18

do you mean over the line? But

20:21

the agent just stares back at her. Why

20:24

is it you're here, Mrs. Metford? Nancy's

20:27

chest aches. She thinks of

20:29

her nephews. If Diana were

20:31

locked up, they'd have no mother. I'm

20:35

not sure I can help you. I think

20:37

I've made a mistake. She

20:40

rises to her feet. The man

20:42

crushes the cigarette in an overflowing ashtray.

20:45

Got somewhere else to be, have you? Hard

20:48

to fit in the war effort between the

20:50

dinners and dancing. Nancy

20:52

bristles. She's my sister.

20:55

She reaches for her handbag. Do

20:57

you know what's happening in France? I

21:00

do read the news. The

21:03

agent leans forward. There's

21:05

a swastika hanging off the Arc de

21:07

Triomphe. Parisians are

21:09

on the run. Nancy

21:11

hadn't realised that. She

21:14

has friends in Paris. And

21:16

now the Nazis are coming for

21:18

London. Hitler's got Senate

21:20

House marked out as his HQ.

21:22

Nancy stares at the agent in

21:24

shock. I wonder if that

21:26

was one of your sister's suggestions. A

21:31

shiver runs down Nancy's spine. So I'm

21:34

going to ask you again. Do you

21:37

believe your sister is a danger to her country, like

21:39

her husband? Nancy's stomach

21:41

churns. No. She

21:44

feels tears in her eyes. If

21:48

you want the truth, I think my sister is... I think my

21:50

sister is... far

21:52

worse than her husband. Nancy

21:55

feels herself detached. It's

21:57

the only way she can get through this. Anderson

22:00

merely desires the downfall of England

22:03

and democracy generally. She

22:05

will stick at nothing to achieve her ambitions. It's

22:08

wildly ambitious, a ruthless and

22:10

shrewd egotist, a devoted fascist

22:13

and admirer of Hitler. Nancy's

22:17

legs feel weak as a broad

22:19

smile spreads across the agent's face. She

22:22

knows Britain isn't safe whilst

22:24

Diana walks the streets. But

22:27

she also knows because of what she's done,

22:30

her little nieces and nephews are

22:32

going to grow up without her

22:34

mother. OK,

22:41

one of the many lessons we take from this is, even

22:44

at your lowest ebb, with your husband

22:46

in prison and you're a

22:48

suspected enemy of the state, never

22:50

confide in a family member. Joke though

22:52

you do Matt, that obviously is the catalyst for

22:54

this. Nancy has of

22:57

course written about Oswald. She's been

22:59

a long time detractor of

23:01

their politics and their actions. But

23:04

with Diana turning up at her door, she's

23:06

now unable to deny that Diana's still

23:08

in direct contact with Hitler. She's

23:10

receiving financial support. She is

23:12

an enemy of the state, not just a wife of an

23:15

enemy of the state. And it's

23:17

wartime, so Nancy must feel this

23:19

incredible pull to protect the

23:21

people around her on a national scale. A

23:25

few weeks later, Denham Buckinghamshire.

23:28

Diana sits on the only chair left in

23:30

the nursery, feeding Max. It's

23:32

just two days until they have to leave the house for

23:35

good. She spent the

23:37

past day boxing their furniture, but things

23:39

are starting to look up. Her

23:41

sister Pam has said they can stay with her. She's

23:44

managed to find a lawyer for Oswald, and

23:47

she's been talking with Nancy daily. She

23:50

looks down at her baby, his

23:52

snuffling, rhythmic breathing, his

23:55

eyes innocently closed. Then

23:58

She turns to the door as it creaks open. Determine

24:01

if teen hangs awkwardly in the

24:03

doorway. Method: There are

24:05

people here to see a. Than.

24:08

Smiles. All sorts. Lawyer said

24:10

he would pop by. She places

24:12

Max gently and is caught and harrys eagerly

24:14

to the window. But

24:16

as he pays out, she sees

24:19

three unfamiliar seconds. To man

24:21

and a woman. She

24:23

watches them as they take in the house

24:25

note pads and hand. At

24:28

first she wonders if that journalists. but then

24:30

she sees the faster the patch. And

24:33

realize in horror that that police

24:35

officers. Some I invite

24:37

them in. She

24:39

stares bucket seen. Yes!

24:41

Keep them downstairs Diana.

24:44

Rushes into her bedroom and grabs her

24:46

wedding present. the silver framed. Photograph as

24:48

Hitler. She looks around hopelessly

24:50

for a place to hide it. Heart

24:54

thumping to his heavy boots ascending

24:56

the stairs. She runs

24:58

back into Mack, the nurturing gently

25:00

list is mattress and slips the

25:02

Southwest underneath. She places

25:04

Max on top. A

25:06

stocky policewoman forces open the door. Diana.

25:09

Freezes sign a Muslim.

25:13

Years. Odd lights come

25:15

with us. Excuse me.

25:18

Even if the word escape her lips,

25:20

the terrible truth is dawning on Diana.

25:23

Com were. On the

25:25

rest new under subsection eight seem they

25:27

have the emergency powers. Than

25:30

a picks up max. Clutches him to

25:32

her chest, Was that

25:34

baby? I can't leave him on

25:36

breastfeeding. Arrangements have been

25:39

made, Or from speed

25:41

breastfed that would be unorthodox. The net. Diana

25:45

stairs in horror as teen appears at the

25:47

door. She looked for both of

25:49

them in confusion. Know I'm

25:51

taking in with me. The police

25:53

officer sneers, trust me, you don't

25:55

want to take him where you're

25:58

going Damn hot. start pounding. I

26:01

want my lawyer. I want. But.

26:03

As she uttered the words she knows his

26:05

few times. How long will

26:07

it be away for the have to

26:09

tell my family. The

26:12

police officers shrugs. You be

26:14

inside as long as you're deemed a threat. Than

26:17

a sales the room start to spin. Collects

26:20

give way. She process to

26:22

the cockpit and that sounds

26:24

a terrible scream. Alexander runs

26:26

in. A. Terms

26:30

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26:32

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26:34

enveloped in in have I'll be

26:36

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26:40

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26:42

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26:44

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26:46

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few hours later, Holloway Prison. Diana

28:33

kicks the metal door in frustration. Let

28:36

me out, please. She

28:39

has no idea how long she's been here. She's

28:42

being held in a mesh cell that's four

28:44

feet by four feet. Each

28:47

wall feels so close it could crush her.

28:50

She can barely make out the shape of her own

28:52

hands through the darkness. She

28:55

screams. This is

28:57

inhumane. Finally,

29:00

the rusty bolts wheels open.

29:02

The hard-faced warden drags her roughly

29:05

by the arm. Diana recoils, do

29:08

you trust me? The warden leads

29:10

her into a bright white clinical side

29:12

room. Strip. Diana

29:15

stares at her. Strip.

29:18

The warden is already slipping on a pair of gloves.

29:21

Need to test you for lice

29:23

and VD. Oh man, this is

29:25

brutal. Diana's cheeks

29:28

flush. I don't have either

29:30

of them, I assure you. But

29:32

the warden simply eyes her narrowly. Strip.

29:37

Diana stares at a brown patch of

29:39

damp throughout the whole long demeaning examination.

29:43

Finally, the warden snaps off her

29:45

gloves and throws Diana a shapeless

29:47

blue striped dress. The

29:49

itchy woolen fabric grates at her skin.

29:53

Don't I have the right to a phone call? Diana

29:56

puffs as she's led out of the examination

29:58

room and down a narrow corridor. Not

30:01

under section 18b. Section

30:06

18b is so, so

30:08

tough. I mean it is mad to think

30:10

of the fact that she's there under

30:13

this section, which means that basically they can

30:15

kind of do what they want. Straight

30:18

to prison, no lawyer, none of

30:20

the usual trappings of being involved

30:22

in a police case. But

30:24

again, the irony is, this is exactly the sort

30:26

of system she would have happily lived under if

30:28

it was run by Nazis. Rage

30:31

pulses through Diana's body. I'd

30:34

like to speak to your superior. Yeah,

30:37

you're not in a harvester. You can't ask to speak to

30:39

the manager. The

30:41

warden just smirks and leads Diana down

30:43

a set of dimly lit stone steps.

30:46

Droplets of water fall from the ceiling. Diana

30:49

hugs the wall to steady herself. Did

30:53

you not hear me? Suddenly

30:55

she feels the warden's bony hands shove

30:57

her roughly into a sand. Sand

31:00

slips and falls onto the damp stone floor.

31:03

She looks around her in disgust. A

31:06

lumpy mattress is lying in a pool of water. A

31:09

pile of rotten sandbags cover the tiny

31:11

window. From

31:14

the cell next door erupts a

31:16

low, wordless wail. I

31:18

can't stay here. I won't. Gesturing

31:22

to a chipped china bowl on the floor

31:24

containing a hunk of bread and some sort

31:26

of revolting looking brown liquid, the

31:28

warden turns to leave. Diana

31:31

ruddens. Her jaw tightens. How

31:34

dare you ignore me? I

31:36

know Churchill. I'd like to know what he'd

31:38

have to say about this. The warden

31:41

bears a condescending smile. I

31:43

don't think so, love. It's your beloved Churchill

31:45

who's put you here. Diana

31:48

blinks at her, shocked. She

31:51

clamps her hands over her ears as another

31:53

long wail carries into the night. Unable

31:56

to bring herself to lie on the damp mattress,

31:58

she sits up, sucking her head. against the

32:00

Coldstone Wall. Her

32:02

mind races in the darkness as

32:05

the realization begins to set in. Her

32:08

cousin Winston has done this to her, her

32:11

own family. She

32:13

has no favors left to call in. She

32:16

has no rights, no friends,

32:19

no freedom. She

32:21

thinks of Oswald locked up in his

32:23

cell across London. And

32:26

for the first time realizes she

32:28

has absolutely no idea what

32:31

she's going to do. Two

32:38

months later, Holloway Prison. Sydney

32:41

Metford tries not to look shocked as her

32:43

daughter Diana half falls into the chair in

32:46

front of her. She

32:48

can make out the tendons in her arm. The

32:51

waistband of her ugly hand knitted gray

32:53

two-piece has been taken in with pins.

32:56

Her skin is coated in gray dirt

32:58

and she smells of urine. You

33:01

look like you could use a good bath. Sydney

33:04

reaches out to wrap the thick wool and

33:07

rug she brought around Diana's spindly shoulders. Well,

33:10

I have some good news. We've finally got

33:12

to your committee hearing. It's not

33:14

a proper trial, but you'll get a chance

33:16

to present your case to a panel. And

33:18

if it gets you out of this hellhole, she

33:21

glances at Diana. She expected her

33:24

to be delighted, but

33:26

she appears unmoved. I've

33:28

arranged for you to stay at your sister pan and

33:30

then the children will be brought down to you. If

33:34

I get released, Ma. Diana's

33:36

mouth is set into a thin,

33:38

cautious line. Sydney

33:40

falters. Darling, of

33:43

course you will. You just have to tow

33:45

the line. Tell them what they want to hear.

33:47

You're not a danger to the war effort

33:50

and you believe in the government, democracy, all

33:52

of that. But I don't.

33:55

Sydney feels a prickle of frustration. Oh,

33:58

I'm sure this country would run far better. with

34:00

you are Oswald in charge but you have to

34:02

say whatever it takes to get yourself out. Every

34:06

prisoner knows that. I'm

34:08

a changed character, I ain't in a fascism

34:10

no more, I've been doing democracy courses so

34:12

I'm a big fan of first-past-the-post, I mean

34:15

I'm even open to proportional representation. Diana

34:20

jumps in. But for

34:23

goodness sake Diana. Sydney

34:25

fails herself snap. Your

34:27

place is at home with your children. Max

34:29

is five months old for Christ's sake. Alexander

34:32

wakes up every night without fail crying

34:35

out for you. Please

34:37

Diana. Sydney's

34:39

voice trembles. She takes her

34:41

daughter's face in her hands. She

34:43

has to make her see sense. They

34:46

can't lose two parents. Diana

34:50

nods weakly. You're

34:52

right. Of course. Sydney

34:55

breathes the sigh of relief. She

34:57

won't rest until her daughter is free

34:59

from this nightmare until she's back

35:01

with her children and this

35:04

whole wretched business is behind

35:06

them where it belongs. The

35:13

second of October 1940. Ascot.

35:18

Norman Birkett Casey slums shut the

35:20

door of his smart green Alba

35:22

Speed 20 and pulls a bundle

35:24

of evidence reports from the boot. A

35:27

cluster of shabby reporters surround him. Is

35:30

it true Diana's living the life of luxury

35:32

and sight-gove. Drinking champagne,

35:34

playing bridge, wearing silk underwear, having

35:37

breakfast lunch and dinner delivered to her

35:39

by car. That's what we're hearing. Birkett

35:42

keeps his head down as he crosses the car

35:44

park and ascends the

35:46

stone steps of the Grand Country Hotel.

35:49

He spots a copy of the morning's paper on

35:51

the stone step. Hitler's Angel

35:54

faces trial amidst controversy.

35:57

Diana has been dubbed Hitler's Angel by

35:59

the press, but he won't be

36:01

dragged into idle gossip. Birkett

36:06

is a loyal patriot, and today

36:08

he has one job. To

36:11

prove with hard facts that Diana

36:13

Moseley is a danger to national

36:15

security. He

36:17

strides into the meeting room. The

36:20

air is electric. This

36:22

is the reason he became a barrister. He's

36:24

always loved public speaking. A

36:27

skill he honed as a Methodist preacher

36:29

whilst a student at Cambridge. He

36:32

eyes the panel of seven that will

36:34

decide Diana's fate. Then

36:36

he turns his attention to Mrs Moseley

36:38

herself, who's already seated with her lawyer

36:40

and mother. It's the

36:42

first time he's seen her in person, and

36:45

despite the clear signs of prison, he

36:47

is nevertheless struck by her beauty

36:49

and poise. Pull yourself together

36:51

Norman. She is a threat to

36:54

our country. She fixes him with

36:56

her glittering blue eyes and smiles. I'd

36:59

like to thank all of you for taking the time to

37:01

meet with me today. My

37:03

imprisonment under Section 18B has been

37:06

without charge or sentence, something

37:08

which goes against the constitution of this

37:10

country. I'm grateful to

37:13

have an opportunity to say my peace. Norman

37:16

nods dismissively and opens his file.

37:20

Mrs Moseley, we've collated

37:22

evidence from a number of sources, as

37:25

well as the searches of both your

37:27

London and Buckinghamshire properties. Had

37:30

dreadfully dull that must have been. I didn't

37:32

have you down as a man interested in the latest

37:34

visions. A couple

37:36

of the committee members raise a smile. Norman

37:39

rolls his eyes. He'll

37:41

soon extinguish Diana's spark. I'd

37:44

like to start with your visits to Germany. We

37:47

have records of a large number of trips between 1933 and 1939, dating

37:49

up to just a few days before the war. Diana

37:57

crosses her long legs calmly. All

38:00

unsettled, She's hiding it well. I

38:03

was visiting my sister. Did

38:05

no york and stances sir. Norman

38:08

smirks. And this is

38:10

your sister. unity. The self

38:12

proclaimed Nazi. Than.

38:15

A passive her lip family. Unity.

38:17

Is not the one on trial. Here is see. A

38:20

Please Tell me I'm responsible for the actions

38:22

of my siblings. My. Other sister.

38:24

Is. A communist. She's. Mission

38:27

is absolutely. Killer. That. Also.

38:29

Great have the communists district Beasley, the senate.

38:32

Last, a rebels across the panel. Norman.

38:35

Takes off his small round spectacles and

38:37

wipes his forehead with a handkerchief. And

38:40

Skyn princeling with annoyance. Mrs.

38:43

Mosley. I'd like to remind you that this

38:45

isn't one of your dinner parties. He

38:48

regrets the words as soon as they leave his

38:50

mouth. And. It's a cheap flight and

38:53

he knows it plays into her some. I

38:56

can assure you Mr. Burke it the my

38:58

dinner parties are a lot more civil the

39:01

list so. Trial. He's

39:03

about to cut in when Diana Ross. Said

39:06

he was interested because a

39:09

very dangerous precedent. Where would

39:11

it stop his next. He

39:14

watches is Diana eyes. The panel I would

39:16

under the impression that this little with to.

39:18

Protect British freedom's not limit

39:21

them. Back

39:23

it sees the panel system as seats. It.

39:26

Seems he's underestimated Diana. He's going

39:28

to have to change tapped and

39:30

throw everything he's got at her:

39:32

the Luftwaffe or destroyed Coventry Cathedral.

39:36

Thousands have died in German bomb

39:38

attacks. No more playing Nice. The

39:41

future of this country depends on.

39:46

An hour later, Ascot, Diana

39:48

walks out into the hotels

39:51

fast sweeping gardens beyond the

39:53

rich green lawn, lysol cornfields

39:55

and a forest. Of. Often trees.

39:59

She feels her lungs. expand as she takes

40:01

in the fresh country air and lets

40:03

the delicious autumn breeze dance across

40:05

her skin. Her stomach

40:07

is full after her first proper hot meal

40:10

since her arrest. She's been

40:12

living exclusively on Stilton, Bread and

40:14

Port inside. OK, so she's got

40:16

gantt. I thought she was going to

40:18

be saying she's exclusively been surviving on gruel, but

40:20

she's been surviving on blue cheese, bread and port.

40:23

Yes, got a Fortnims delivery. That's exclusively

40:25

what I eat from the 12th of December till

40:27

the 3rd of January. That's

40:30

my Christmas window. Freedom

40:33

has never felt so close. By

40:36

tonight she could be sitting beside a roaring

40:38

fire in her sister's drawing room, her

40:41

four children in her arms. She

40:44

feels Mav's gentle arm across her back. It's

40:47

time. You're doing so well

40:50

darling. Just keep going. Show

40:52

them you're not a threat. Diana

40:54

marches back into the wood paneled meeting room.

40:57

It held high, shoulders back, to

40:59

hide her nerves. She

41:02

feels Birkett's small shrewd eyes burning into

41:04

her as she takes her seat. I'd

41:07

like to talk about your wedding, your second

41:09

wedding. It was held in Germany.

41:12

Why was that? Diana

41:14

shifts in her seat. We simply

41:16

wanted to keep it out of the dress. Oswald's

41:19

first wife had experienced much abuse.

41:22

He didn't want the same for me. She

41:24

tries to read Birkett's rigid expression as

41:27

he scrolls notes into her file. And

41:30

Hitler himself arranged it. She

41:33

watches as he walks over to the panel. Or

41:37

Uncle Wolf, as you

41:39

call him. Diana bristles.

41:42

She has been careful to keep the details of her

41:44

wedding secret. She is not

41:46

sure how Birkett could possibly know about Hitler.

41:49

Yes, because I asked him to. As

41:52

a friend. A murmur

41:54

of surprise rises in the room. Muff

41:57

coughs. Diana shifts again

41:59

in her chair. chair, loosening the collar of

42:01

her blouse. Uncle

42:03

Wolf, as you call him, is

42:06

now bombing London. Diana

42:09

Stuttas tried to brush off the question.

42:13

Yes, Britain are bombing Berlin. So

42:15

it stands to reason that Hitler would

42:18

bomb London. Suddenly,

42:20

Birkett closes his file. He

42:22

leans forward and looks Diana directly in

42:25

the eye. Is

42:27

it true you have contempt for

42:29

democracy? Diana takes a

42:31

deep breath. This is her chance

42:34

to denounce fascism and

42:36

go home to her precious boys. I

42:39

have the utmost respect for the government. In

42:42

fact, Winston Churchill is

42:44

a cousin. She

42:47

looks up in surprise as Birkett slams

42:49

his fist against the wooden table. Mrs.

42:52

Moseley, you have not answered the

42:54

question. Are you loyal

42:56

to this country? Do

42:58

you renounce your fascist views?

43:04

Diana's chest stings. She

43:06

thinks of unity. So loyal

43:08

to her cause she was willing to die for it.

43:11

And her beloved Oswald, who's

43:14

dedicated his life to giving Britain

43:16

a new radical future. She

43:18

thinks of her children, with

43:21

Alexander screaming in the night. Of

43:23

the smell of baby Max. She

43:26

takes a test and in that instance, she

43:28

decides. Stands up so

43:31

the whole court can see her. She

43:34

mutters it quiet at first. No.

43:38

What was that? No,

43:41

I will not denounce fascism. A

43:44

gasp runs through the room. Birkett

43:47

and his panel make furious notes. Diana

43:51

sees Moseley holding her face in her hand.

43:54

Diana's chest pounds as she realizes she'll

43:56

be back in her cell tonight. She

44:00

has no idea when she'll get out. This

44:03

was her one chance. But

44:05

deep down, she knows she's done

44:07

the right thing. She

44:10

will not be cowed. She'll bide

44:12

her time. Because when

44:14

Uncle Wolf wins this war, she'll

44:17

have her moment to take revenge. And

44:19

then she'll remind Birkett and all

44:21

of his coins. Who's really

44:24

in control? I

44:33

know this isn't the main point, and

44:35

I say this within the context of her being a

44:38

fascist and a traitor and everything else. But

44:40

there's a bizarre sort of honor to that, is

44:42

that she can't help but be true to

44:44

herself. She's not prepared to lie

44:47

to get herself out of prison. And

44:49

that is bizarre. It puts her

44:51

relationship with her husband at risk. It

44:53

means her children don't have their

44:55

mother around. So on

44:58

every logical level, it's

45:00

ludicrous. But there's

45:02

a form of integrity to it. Yeah, I know

45:04

what you mean. Morally, she's abhorrent. But

45:06

there's this strength of character, and I

45:08

think a lesser person would have crumbled

45:11

and would have done what made her

45:13

life easier and not stuck to the

45:15

ideology, an ideology we're repulsed by. But

45:17

yeah, I know just what you mean.

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Three years later, November 1943, Holloway Prison.

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Diana thrusts her garden fork deep into

47:06

the soil. Her hair is

47:08

tied back. Her fingernails are

47:10

black with dirt. For the

47:13

past two years, Diana and Oswald

47:15

have been allowed to share ramshackle

47:17

quarters in one of Holloway's outbuildings

47:19

after Diana's family called in a

47:21

favour with Winston Churchill. She

47:25

can feel Oswald watching her now as she pulls

47:27

out a knife and begins hacking at the stem

47:30

of a small, deformed cauliflower. He's

47:32

too unwell to help in the garden these days.

47:35

Instead, he sits nearby, a blanket

47:37

over his knee, one eye on the book in

47:40

front of him. She's

47:42

about to start ripping the cauliflower for dinner

47:44

when she sees a figure marching across the

47:46

yard towards them. A

47:48

warden. Diana's first thought is

47:50

that something might have happened to one of the

47:53

children. She rushes forward, but

47:55

as she gets closer, the warden

47:57

bears a smile. You're

48:00

getting out. Sianna

48:02

stares at her. Hot? More?

48:09

Her heart is beginning to flutter. She daren't

48:11

believe this is real. The car will be

48:13

waiting for you in ten minutes. Sianna stares

48:15

at Oswald in disbelief, as a smile spreads across his

48:17

face. Just

48:22

think, we'll have a good hearty meal, a warm

48:24

bath, go to sleep on a proper mattress.

48:26

Oh, and the boys! She

48:29

says, having deserted them three

48:31

years previously. And listing the bath in

48:33

the mattress before them. Sianna and Oswald are

48:36

guided through a part of the prison they've

48:38

never seen before. And then

48:40

out of sight, where a black Bentley

48:42

has the engine running. As

48:45

they clamber

48:47

inside, the driver warns, you

48:50

two might want to duck down. Sianna shoots them a

48:52

confused glance. The car purrs out of an

48:54

innocuous looking gate. And Sianna can't believe her

48:56

eyes. Protesters

49:00

and press, in the

49:02

evening swarm the vehicle. This rasp

49:04

against the window, Sianna blinks with

49:06

camera flashes to sting her eye. She

49:10

can see the journalists have constructed a

49:12

huge scaffold for a better view of

49:14

the prison. While anti-fascist wield clackers reading,

49:18

anti-fascist wield clackers reading,

49:20

social justice and let

49:22

them rot in prison. She

49:26

grips Oswald's hand and tries to fire

49:28

him a reassuring glance. She

49:30

fills and squeeze hers. We've

49:32

survived work. A

49:35

stone flips the window as the car pulls

49:37

out onto Caledonian road. This

49:42

only shows the strength of public feeling because

49:45

this is three years after their incarceration and

49:47

people are still absolutely livid at their behaviour.

49:50

Yeah, I think the motivation for that is

49:52

twofold. One is the view that they've had

49:54

it very, very easy. As we've seen, they've

49:56

basically been living in A

49:58

beautiful, idyllic. Sat.

50:01

On an allotment of them have missed cooking

50:03

for themselves. But also, of course we're

50:05

still at war at this point. A

50:09

few hours later than a sinks into

50:11

fresh cotton seats at his sister communists.

50:14

Relishing the weight of the warm do they on top

50:16

of her. She moves

50:18

and closer towards Oswald and begins

50:21

to drift into a thick exhausted

50:23

sleep. For justice is shopping on

50:25

this allowed? Hammering on the

50:27

front door and Wilde for

50:30

granted is barking Oswald's Wait

50:32

for the some for. The

50:36

times of to bed and runs to

50:38

the staircase as police officers with dogs

50:40

crowd the hallway. Diane

50:42

appears down the stairwell as the police

50:45

done talking to her sister. We

50:48

had intelligence your husband is working on

50:50

confidential or a as. Of

50:53

we can't trust the most is around and

50:55

sell me where they are now. Heavy

50:59

police things begin to send the

51:01

Sas Sandra rushes back to was

51:03

a cheek slept with tears. She

51:06

throws what few possessions they half into

51:08

her traveling case for the second time

51:10

that day. A

51:12

chilling realize. A sunset sin. She

51:15

is for rather branded as a trade

51:17

center. She will never be allowed to

51:19

feel at home in this country. I

51:21

don't. Believe

51:26

years later. Spring Nineteen, Forty

51:28

Nine Dancer. Diane

51:31

accent is the same, her heart

51:33

pounding. On her tossed the car

51:35

insists forward through the form of

51:37

reported the cameras us is blinding

51:39

in the dim light. Awful

51:42

them as some have a low in the heat.

51:44

Shielding themselves from the intrusive lenses.

51:48

After five long years the government

51:50

has finally really their passports and

51:53

now the mostly the free to

51:55

sell some new life in a

51:57

new country from. One

52:00

voice rings out as the car plows up the

52:03

gangway. Do you regret what

52:05

you did, Mrs. Lowsley? She

52:07

pulls up the window, presses

52:09

down on the accelerator, just a fraction

52:11

as reporters begin to follow along. Diana

52:15

breathes a sigh of relief as she edges the car

52:18

up the ramp and onto the boat. She

52:21

looks back at her boys sitting on the back seat. Max

52:23

is almost six now. They

52:26

already have an invitation from the Windsor's and

52:28

Diana is looking forward to finally building a

52:30

new life with her young family. This

52:33

is a far cry from Holloway prison. And

52:35

I know you'll be worried about them setting up

52:37

a new life and having friends and maybe people

52:39

that could babysit for them, but don't worry because

52:41

they actually don't live that far away from the

52:44

Duke of Windsor and the Duchess of Windsor, who,

52:46

as you can imagine, have a

52:49

lot in common hobbies-wise. A

52:51

lovely little expat community of

52:53

British fascist sympathisers in

52:56

France. What a happy hour!

53:00

As she climbs in it and lifts the boys

53:02

up, she realises it's the first time

53:04

in ten years that she's

53:06

finally off British soil. A

53:10

few minutes later, Diana stands at the back of the

53:12

boat, watching the white-liffed dova

53:14

dissolve into the sea. Other

53:17

passengers stare and she knows she'll never

53:19

be entirely free from the judgement of

53:22

others. She molds

53:24

over the reported question, does

53:26

she regret it? She

53:28

lost three years of her children's

53:31

childhood, three sisters, her

53:33

glittering reputation. She

53:35

feels Oswald's with a strong, comforting

53:37

arm around her. No,

53:40

she thinks. If she

53:42

had her time again, she'd

53:44

do it all exactly

53:47

the same. Unity

53:55

Mitford died on 28 May 1948, having never fully recovered

53:57

from her childhood. shooting.

54:01

Nancy ended up living in France near

54:03

Diana and when she became ill, Diana

54:05

travelled regularly to see her. It

54:08

was only after her death that

54:10

Diana discovered Nancy had testified against

54:12

her. Oswald

54:14

Mosley tried to stand for Parliament after the

54:17

war but received little support. He

54:19

died in 1980. In

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1989, Diana gave one of Desert

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meeting Hitler, she said, he

54:30

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54:32

so much to say. He was

54:34

so interesting. Fascinating. When

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asked about the Nazis murder of 6 million

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