Recorded a few weeks back before Exeter Chiefs run up to Twickernam I joined regular guest, England and Cheifs prop forward Harry Williams in his garden [in case some of the background noises are confusing - definitely some seagulls on their at some point...].

Harry is still carrying an injury and as per usual we don't exactly cover much rugby related stuff. We do go hard in the paint on Bear Gryll's The Island and how host Sam Harris think's he would do on it, Made in Chelsea, negative people that may include some therapeutic offloading on Harry's part, the best weapon to use in medieval times, Jesus - Wizard? Again.

The usual blend of nonsense, sense, sense of humour and lack of common sense from to chaps with rugby based sensibilities. Go on, take a listen. You know it makes sense.