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0:32
Well , today hasn't really gone my way . Yeah
0:35
, I just started working with a marketing agency
0:37
and my team has
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been going through the sales training They've been doing pretty
0:41
well and just learning
0:43
nine-step sales process how to work with leads
0:46
. And I've hired an
0:48
agency to basically create ads
0:50
, book the appointments , and all my team has
0:52
to do is focus on closing those dates that come
0:54
in . And
1:01
I'm frustrated because when I met with the sales reps from the agency , like , yeah , we'll get you
1:03
lots of appointments , lots of leads , we'll schedule them and your team folks close it . They're great
1:05
, sounds awesome . I really like you guys because
1:07
I once wanted to do the follow-up , the scheduling
1:10
and the confirmation of showing
1:12
to the appointment . To me that's the biggest value . I
1:14
don't have my team chasing leads that
1:17
pop up on Facebook because anyone can
1:19
put up a trash lead , say it's a contact
1:21
, but the real work is getting someone to
1:23
show up to an appointment , and so that
1:25
was the value that I saw . And so
1:27
they're like yeah , sounds good . One thing that requires
1:30
your team goes through sales training to get
1:32
everything ready . So
1:41
I'm like'm okay , that makes sense because you're going through these trainings . The first five
1:43
training sessions , the first day is like all right , so we're going to talk about free
1:45
and people ask if the program is free . How you say no without saying no and you really
1:47
they roll that c into the
1:49
membership . It's like wait , what are
1:51
you talking about ? And so I want I've got
1:53
through the training for like a week and a half at this point
1:56
, so I want to see all the , the whole
1:58
program . It's probably silver . And basically
2:00
what they do is they put up a facebook ad that
2:02
says , hey , how about attend a free
2:04
six weeks challenge for a gym ? And
2:07
you get it for free . And then when people come
2:09
in like , wait , it's free , I can't wait to sign up . And
2:12
then it turns out what happens is you
2:14
have to do pay 500 up front . You
2:17
do the six-week challenge . It's like , hey , you
2:19
passed the challenge , now we're going to roll that 500
2:22
into an annual membership . That's
2:24
now 50 a month . You get a free
2:26
or whatever , or whatever
2:28
the program is , you now get that as a credit
2:30
to your membership . So it's
2:33
total bs , like's not even real
2:35
. You don't get a free challenge , you
2:37
just get it . You're like store
2:39
credit , it's all it is and
2:41
you've already . You pay $500 to
2:43
get a $500 store credit , which
2:45
is garbage . That's just . That's such
2:47
bait and switch BS . And
2:50
so I emailed back the when I finally
2:52
put the pieces together and figured out what the heck is
2:54
going on , emailed back to my account and said
2:56
, hey , uh , I
2:58
can name josh . You know what's going
3:01
on . Uh , my , we
3:03
sell 180 a month package
3:05
. We're working with high-end clients . People
3:07
pay almost two thousand dollars a year to work
3:09
at the studio . I'm not throwing on the worst
3:11
free , because when they see free , they
3:13
, these are very smart , very intellectual
3:16
people . I'm not playing games here . What
3:19
other marketing programs can we do ? Because
3:21
this is not going to fly ? And he's
3:23
like , oh yeah , well , we do the free ads because
3:26
it does two things you lose 20 pounds
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or you lose 7.5% body fat and
3:30
then you roll it in so that you can change as many lives
3:32
as possible . I'll be doing great . Wait
3:35
, no , I don't need 100,000
3:38
leads . I
3:40
need 30 new members a
3:43
month or whatever . I still haven't
3:45
figured out what that number is , but 30 members a month . I
3:47
don't need 100,000 people walking into my
3:49
scene to close 5% of
3:51
these leads . I need people that are serious
3:54
. They know who we are , what we are . I'm people that are serious . They know who
3:56
we are , what we offer , and I don't even know if this agency
3:58
even knows that there were a boutique studio
4:01
that offers a premium product . They know
4:03
it many times over . So I'm
4:07
set up I still need that lead and
4:09
what I'm doing , I'm going to take ownership of
4:11
it and I'm re-looking at the contract and
4:14
basically , if in the first 30 days you're
4:17
going to part ways , you lose your
4:19
$1,000 . Or if you have to do like
4:21
a cancellation without notice afterwards
4:23
it's a $2,000 cancellation fee . And
4:25
so I think about the spot where I
4:28
want that . What I want is I want someone who can
4:30
make sure any leads that are generated whether
4:32
it's in-house or external , any leads that are generated
4:34
, whether it's in-house or external that someone is working way
4:38
cheaper than what my managers are making to
4:40
get these people into the office . And so I'm
4:43
ticked off at myself because I didn't think about
4:45
what kind of sales tactics
4:47
are out there and what folks could be doing that
4:50
will cheapen the brand and cheapen the experience
4:52
and play these sales sleazy
4:55
games to try to just get
4:57
a few more people in the door and I pay more . Now
5:00
a point in the world and
5:03
I'm just annoyed at anything that
5:05
may work in like the cheapo gym
5:07
world , but I don't know
5:10
work with integrity and really honor my members
5:12
, honor my staff and have a straight
5:14
, straightforward conversations . And maybe
5:16
that's not the industry . I could be wrong , maybe I'm
5:18
reading too much into codes
5:20
of conduct , but I think it's just a really so
5:23
. Part of this reminds me when I was in high school . There's some ad in . I think
5:25
it's just a really Part of this reminds me of when I was in high school
5:27
. There's some ad in the paper . It's like hey
5:29
, hot dog eating contest , use
5:31
any hot dogs and win prizes . I'm like , okay
5:33
, cool , I drive like a half an hour
5:35
. I show up at what
5:37
was it ? Some Chevy
5:40
dealership in Lakeville , minnesota . I
5:42
show up and there's some kid being in this hot dog station
5:45
and I was just like they're like a Nathan's
5:47
hot dog competition thing and it's just like a
5:49
kid with a hot dog stand inside the dealership
5:51
. So I go okay , how does this work ? He said
5:53
well , you're going to eat hot dogs in like 15
5:56
minutes . Well , okay , cool , I'm
6:02
here to win the car mats if you can eat
6:04
like five hot dogs . But you only
6:07
get the car mats when you buy a car , I
6:09
was like , wait what ? They get it in the fine
6:11
print . In the fine print that's
6:14
you know six inches tall talking
6:16
about API rates , money
6:18
down , muscle living , win
6:21
a lottery ticket . Inside all that fine
6:23
print it says prize their . Only he wanted to win a lottery to get inside all that fine
6:25
print that says prizes are only valid when a
6:28
new car is purchased . So
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I'm mad at myself because I
6:33
believe the best in people . I believe people
6:35
don't want to do these weird marketing
6:38
tactics and games . They
6:40
say what they mean , they mean what they say . And
6:42
so this whole thing of yeah , it's a free gym
6:44
membership , in the sense that you pay us $500
6:46
, then you get a free $500 . You
6:48
got a free $500 because it's now going to roll
6:50
into your annual member , like that
6:53
reminds me of the car dealership
6:55
in the hot dogs the little chubby
6:57
kid trying to get me to buy
6:59
a car . He was probably 10 years
7:01
old anyways , and there was no way he was even allowed
7:03
to work there . He was probably some guy's kid or
7:05
whatever . But
7:10
anyhow , all I have to say I'm tired
7:12
, I'm pissed off at this market looming in the way of people trying to twist people into
7:14
getting memberships to pay out money to try
7:17
to buy another product , to
7:19
make a couple of bucks and to ruin an industry
7:21
reputation . The gym and health and
7:23
fitness industry is reputable . It's
7:25
high standard . It needs to have good
7:27
people in it , the folks that weren't saying they
7:30
need to do garbage market
7:32
. They don't know how to run good campaigns
7:34
and they get good traffic . They're
7:36
resorting to low-level black mat tap . That
7:40
takes me out . I'm out . That's
7:43
where I'm at . On top of that
7:45
, a guy who's been doing some sales . We're
7:48
working some leads . I'm paying $200 a day which
7:50
feels like a lot of money into some campaigns
7:53
to try to get fresh blood . In Virgin he
7:55
looked like Dodger food , all these
7:57
different things , and in the middle of the day there's two
7:59
leads that haven't been touched . So
8:02
I'm asking the rep like hey , are we working
8:04
these ? And then he's well , I
8:07
was ready to send it and then he emailed me randomly out of the blue first Like
8:09
hey , man , I know this is commission
8:12
only , but this is a lot of risk for
8:14
me , you know . Can I have a guaranteed draw
8:16
out of this ? Yes
8:19
, we'll make sure . Like I've
8:21
told you , like I
8:25
threw out a , an estimate , you said yes , I'll make sure you're good , but like we're in the middle
8:27
of a marketing campaign here right now doing
8:30
a crazy good giveaway
8:32
, so they've been normally charged 500
8:34
. We're now doing 379 and
8:36
like it's it's a killer deal . And
8:39
he's my
8:41
one , like part-time sales rep who
8:44
is going to be ditching me anyway
8:46
a few months , is now asking for I
8:48
guarantee you know it's not even much . Like it's
8:50
1500 for two weeks , but
8:53
just the mentality that I
8:57
know they don't know me , the staff don't know me , sales
8:59
guy doesn't know me , the marketing guy doesn't know me . Nobody
9:02
knows my background . They don't know my how I handle
9:04
myself . They don't know that I'm gonna be good
9:06
to my word . It just annoys me , though
9:08
, that in the middle of like a sales
9:10
blitz , we've got like 10 days to
9:12
do something here that people are asking
9:14
for like guarantees on their money . We'll
9:18
make sure it's good . Like can
9:20
we not look sideways ? We're trying to look forward
9:22
, and that was
9:25
just more agonizing . No one doesn't take me off , it's
9:28
just annoying . Man , like I don't mind asking
9:30
for a race , you know , we'll talk about it , we'll
9:32
figure it out , we'll make sure everyone's good , but
9:35
like , not in the middle of a game , do you
9:37
negotiate your nsl contract when it's
9:39
the second quarter , like , hey , bro , I
9:41
want a signing bonus . I forgot about my signing
9:43
bonus before I signed . Like , get
9:45
back in the game , go play football
9:47
, go win us a game and yeah , we'll
9:49
probably have a little bit more dough for your signing
9:51
bonus . Like for real , like we talk
9:54
and negotiate , or not , in the
9:56
middle of a blitz play here right now
9:58
. So I said that
10:01
and at the top of the day job I'm
10:03
mentally distracted . I'm working my day job
10:06
, I'm getting stuck in some data things
10:08
, so that's a little bit rough . I don't
10:10
want to work another late day , but thanks
10:12
for my wife . Like , hey , sorry it's a
10:14
long day , I gotta work late so I can
10:16
keep up with my , my W2
10:18
demand . There's
10:21
a lot , but
10:23
I don't know . I'm just venting to the world right now with
10:25
my earbuds . Is my phone still recording ? Okay
10:28
, good , that was a good 10 minute rant . I
10:31
didn't want to lose any of that . I
10:35
just want people to be focused on the longevity , the
10:37
long term things , the big things
10:39
, and not get tripped
10:41
up over nickels . What is it ? Tripping
10:44
over dollars just to save a nickel ? Something like
10:46
that ? Like , yes , we'll make sure
10:48
you get paid , we'll make sure I do
10:50
good on this . I don't know , I don't
10:52
have a perfect answer . Maybe I need to have a good answer
10:54
because I'm the boss and I need to have an answer . I
10:56
know , right now I'm trying to
10:59
keep my day job . I'm trying to
11:01
get more leads so we can get more members
11:03
, and I realize I have to fire
11:05
a marketing agency doing sleazy tactics . And
11:08
people are like hey , give a quick call , quick call , quick call
11:10
. What about ? What do we have to talk
11:12
about ? It's like oh , we need to do a pre-call
11:15
to your actual call within another marketing
11:17
agency . Like no , this
11:22
does nothing to further my If I'm not going to make revenue off this fall
11:24
or I'm not going to be well , sort of
11:26
figuring out how you're going to help me with my gym no , we're
11:28
not going to do that . I don't have time for a quick chat
11:31
. No , I'm not going to show you how my day is going
11:33
. No , no , no , no , no , no , no . So
11:36
how is it just that you ignore people
11:38
and say no , I'm . This
11:43
is probably the most interesting episode out of all
11:45
of them . I'm probably the most frazzled
11:47
, wound up , picking
11:50
leaves , kind of pissy at the whole day and
11:52
just realizing like this is this
11:55
is a good day , this is a good life , it's just been
11:57
a rough end . So I
11:59
have a finalist ace . I'm just going
12:01
to go crush it at the WSU and
12:04
oh no , here's a win here
12:10
at the WSU . And oh no , here's a win , here's a win , here's a
12:12
silver lining . There's always a win . Um , our one of the part-time managers , um , she
12:14
has just a lot going on . So she , we're amicably agreeing , like hey
12:16
, thanks for helping out , thanks for like being available
12:18
to like open and close the door . And grief
12:21
, member , is your great person . Time's
12:23
just a little busy right now for a good arranging . So , um
12:26
, my manager said like , hey , can we go find a new
12:28
hire ? Said , yeah , like you know , the
12:31
guy worked , guy run by you
12:33
, you know you talk to make sure they're gonna pass my
12:35
stuff , that's . But yeah , this is someone you want to work
12:37
with . Let's rock and roll . And so I
12:39
think I know who that's going to be . She reached out to someone
12:41
happened to be another member that I've been
12:43
like , I friended like a week ago
12:45
because they were pretty cool , and it sounds
12:47
like we'll be interviewing a
12:49
new part-time manager to replace manager
12:52
number three . So that was good
12:54
. I'm really excited about that one . They
12:57
want to get into HR long term and
12:59
so like , hey , what's your business like ? Let
13:01
me tell you the business plan . We're
13:03
going to be going here . We're going to be acquiring this
13:06
. We're going to be going here , we're going to be acquiring
13:08
this , we're going to be opening that and get first and mostly into HR . So it would be
13:10
nice to have an HR person for the umbrella
13:13
company , not just for the
13:15
first location or the second location , but for the
13:17
whole operation , to make sure we're
13:19
HR . Good to go , as anything . That
13:22
was a good win . Talked to the accountant
13:24
, we double-checked payroll
13:26
. The bank accountant's good . Good to go . We're doing our
13:28
third payroll run today . So kind
13:31
of weird . I'll
13:33
look for the . You know how I've
13:35
done this . It was a
13:37
scary the pat of these . But don't
13:41
want to get the revenue . I was having only revenue , yet
13:43
still
13:45
working on the equity injection on
13:47
the app from closing and then
13:49
any like drawback , whatever . It's
13:53
plenty of money , it's all good . We're
13:55
not . We're not going to die . We're not going to
13:57
call up a green card and start
13:59
racking up debt . Thinking
14:05
what I'm really looking . You know what I'm looking
14:07
forward to . I'm looking forward to
14:09
getting that second location finally
14:12
unleashing all these episodes uh
14:14
, because if you guys have made it this far , we're like what
14:17
? 115 , 110 episodes in
14:19
this ? Uh , finally watching this
14:21
thing . Guys , I need to be surrounded by more business
14:24
owners that are dealing with the little things
14:26
and the big things right now , because I don't know who to talk
14:28
to . Or I'm having a day like my house
14:30
got shut down . This marketing agency suck
14:33
. This employee doesn't need for a race and
14:35
no , they don't deserve a race . Or like the sales
14:37
rep is wanting to change
14:39
their comp structure halfway through our marketing campaign
14:41
, or how the heck am I gonna
14:43
? Um , I don't
14:46
know , let's just think top of mind . I don't want
14:48
people to bounce at the other round . Maybe , just maybe
14:50
, I should just start my own mastermind and charge people for
14:52
it and make a fortune . I don't know , um
14:55
, but with the second studio , annually
14:58
the parent company will do a little over a million in
15:00
revenue . So being able to have
15:02
that that golden seven figure
15:05
business owner stupid label , but a lot of a lot of organizations that golden
15:07
seven figure business owner Stupid label , but a lot of a
15:09
lot of organizations need you to have
15:12
million net gross revenue
15:15
to join any sort of like entrepreneurial
15:17
owner love
15:19
mastermind . So
15:21
I think that max of seven numbers I'll
15:24
be up in it . We'll be
15:27
ready for that one At this point . January
15:29
cannot come past , so
15:31
we'll see . We'll keep these plugging
15:33
away and tonight
15:37
we're going to just plug away the W2 , one
15:39
thing at a time . I'm
15:41
really thinking faster at firing quick answers
15:43
, thinking things through and
15:46
not being so formal and just acknowledging
15:48
yep , this has to happen , this has to happen . Sign
15:50
this . I don't say this , it's part of the budget
15:52
. Yes , not anything . Quite , get it
15:54
done , let's move . And
15:56
I don't
15:59
know , I'm feeling the value in having the right people in
16:01
the right places , more than nickel
16:04
and diming things . Yeah
16:12
, it's just annoying man . So hey , y'all , this is kind
16:14
of event episode , but really , who's a part of the five club vision
16:16
? Um , and that's just the current vision . But
16:18
who's gonna be here for the five clubs ? Who's
16:20
gonna get to three clubs ? Who's gonna have something
16:22
scalable and value adding
16:25
to the variant ? And I , the end
16:27
of the day , like , no , you're going to hold back the brand , you're
16:29
going to do these flea , these high six , you're
16:31
going to try to change comp plans in the middle
16:33
. No , like , this is not going to fly . This
16:35
this works now , sure , yes , we will do
16:38
something today . We'll write you a check , but
16:40
I'm also going to write you a check and kick you out the door because
16:42
this is not going to fly long term . So , nice
16:45
person , I like you partying
16:47
his friend . So yeah , and that's
16:49
the way I'm going to phrase it . So , not
16:51
making enemies , not burning bridges . But
16:53
no , you're not going to get people , are not going to get invited
16:55
. So the next go around the heck party
16:57
that there's weird games
17:00
along the way . It's just annoying . It's not
17:02
the right way to do it . And if there's
17:04
a problem , then let's address it head on
17:06
, up , up front . And I don't
17:08
know . Sales guy is good . I may keep him for
17:10
longer , I'm not sure . Marketing agency I
17:12
just straight up fire him . I just got
17:14
back to the house from a nice long walk . I'm going to
17:16
go in and confirm that I need them for
17:18
the booking service . No , I do not
17:20
want them running free , free , free
17:22
, not free ads . And
17:32
if they can't agree to that , we're gonna part as friends , refund everything and unwind it because that's
17:34
garbage . That's not gonna apply , that's all right , that's where I'm gonna go . I got my walk-in , had to see
17:36
the events and get the blood moving and drink probably two
17:39
nalgene's for some water , so I have
17:41
to go pee . I'm gonna go
17:44
um , I don't know I'm
17:46
next to go . I don't know I'm Metro Tree and I kick it . That's
17:50
going to hurt my foot . I'm going to go inside , go sit down , get some work done
17:52
. Thanks for listening to the event and take
17:54
action , and thanks for listening to the rant .
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