Here's the flavour of this episode: Division Director Paul O'Mahony says Roger Overall is a 'sight for sore eyes'. Roger immediately gets the point. Here are some extracts from Paul: "You can love your wife too much. "I am spending too much time with members of one organisation. "The culture attracts you to sell your soul. "you're allowing your soul to be bought" says Roger. Roger's big interest: Me & Running One of his mentors said to Roger "It's fine to have had enough." I've become a member of an organisation that's too attractive: Toastmasters International. This leads on to a chat about how awful things can happen when a business becomes so attractive that it can't cope with the demand for its products & services. tribe, belong, life's work "This is a disaster". "I wish it would elect an international president who would be a disaster." says Paul (in a fit of humour). "You'll end up neglecting your clients, warns Paul "gibbering devotee" "almost a drug" Roger gives his theory on how civilizations grow, reach a tipping point and fade.