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are parker and i'm actually hamilton

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and this is celebrity of my

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club what is celebrity memoir

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book club, we meet

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weekly, we are the only ones

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who see it i guess

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it's more of a book the luxor where we read celebrity

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my mars and tell you will see think they're

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good or not and what qualifies

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us to do that the fact that we

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bought the mike since this is the fact

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that we are doing it and so have you

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think that you're more qualified we emporio

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that you where are you saying you go

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by my accent you upload your own podcasts

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and we will love that for you but if

0:56

you don't want sale you want to carry on ashley will think

0:58

all of our preserve of years of the end and moolah

1:00

love our worms forever literally

1:02

forever anyway oscillate see as

1:05

as you're a celebrity and you

1:07

wrote a memoir about with the name of this week saturday

1:10

during my chapter this he could be called just get

1:12

a second hand on yourselves and do sas

1:14

i have started getting really

1:16

active on to delist cn so

1:18

yeah and i feel like when i just do

1:20

things and then don't spend the rest of the week

1:22

worrying about those things as

1:24

it gets son and i feel less

1:27

than than we must keep learning

1:29

i feel like that very easy but

1:32

i always forget if i just write

1:34

his analysts and then check off by the end of the day

1:36

that i don't than the next four days drowning

1:39

in the fact that i haven't done one simple task

1:41

a plus and such from his i

1:43

was sending stickers to two weeks ago

1:45

it's finally does this is claire is

1:48

you were to title the chapter

1:50

of their my my last week what with this sub there

1:52

because i guess the opposite of ashley

1:54

will eat i am down body

1:56

you guys ever since i've gotten engaged

1:58

i have release that to his wedding

2:01

tic tacs and like not even in a productive

2:04

wedding planning ways i got

2:06

all plan i have everything but i'm kind of

2:08

them thinking about it until april so that i

2:10

am obsessed with watching people talk with our

2:12

wedding or grads i can't get enough of

2:14

it out of what's wrong with the them like getting

2:16

off on watching people be like i

2:18

did you put my hair up the way i wanted to another

2:20

letting as well as the problem is these are

2:22

people that often took a viral and sudden they'll

2:24

get a ton of attention for be like here's everything that went

2:26

wrong my wedding and the company for twenty four

2:29

of things up on the my wedding the cave western

2:31

to the debates i was it censored

2:34

and years as more and i can't stop and

2:36

ashley when i tell you miss meantime is always

2:38

bad ray another that can front with you guys like

2:40

imus outside enjoying life and

2:42

ah are you get

2:45

my sit down and then during my free time be

2:47

on sector i'm not getting things

2:49

done any more is a son i don't know

2:51

she's not a spy i've been dropping the ball a lot

2:53

lately and i'm i'm coming seen here because i know

2:55

i have to chase i honestly thought

2:58

maybe i have to get a second phone and i keep

3:00

tic toc on that phone but the problem

3:02

is one of the things that you have to be doing

3:04

it making x high know they don't even

3:06

have time to making such an awesome too busy looking for

3:08

the next wenger got that you i cannot stress enough

3:10

of this is not needs it's like joking of the

3:13

have been lost lotta hashtag i

3:15

was it i'm searching for it i look a tip

3:17

and wedding or that's what i mean of can you block it

3:19

so that you can't find that can you block

3:22

it for my stomach is curdling right now

3:24

the idea of living a life without them i

3:26

love them so much i actually really

3:28

love them i see them a lot because they're on our excise

3:32

i will say they're fine so

3:34

we think that wedding planning is it puts everybody

3:36

in this weird even field where anybody

3:38

who's willing to talk about it is now payments

3:41

on sake of argument for and i guess a sir of almost every fields

3:43

as a their these girls and a videos are getting

3:45

that well views

3:47

and i'm sitting there watching their three minutes

3:50

exposition about a champagne power

3:52

like with this is the height of knowledge that

3:54

here's my take on as saves the day card

3:56

and i'm like i need to know what is twenty

3:58

two year old in kentucky

4:01

says having a twelve hundred dollar wedding

4:03

for four hundred people think says

4:05

his leg why i can't stop something

4:07

wrong i don't want their opinions thousand dollar one

4:09

and everything the people that have nothing

4:11

to do with how i'm play the people who don't

4:13

know they a message with my body this is their first time

4:16

i was is hilarious video where

4:18

this girls at my number one regret for my wedding

4:20

is not having a registry i did pass

4:22

only and is my biggest

4:24

regret and then if you go back for videos

4:27

as seven months earlier she was like something

4:29

cool undoing at my wedding know registries

4:31

everyone keeps telling me not to do it but i

4:33

know myself and so if you're in an adversary

4:35

here's your permission to see came back

4:38

sediments that if you were more video be like i have a huge

4:40

regret and i'm just i'm upset and it's it's but

4:42

i mean is this these are people that i should be learning

4:44

from it's i think i'm getting good information i'm just

4:46

watching whatever that there and i cannot stops

4:49

and a nice home so i haven't

4:51

done anything this week or last week of the week before to be honest

4:53

other anyway that's my week and a seated into

4:56

one of the worst books of all time i'm sorry that were stalag

4:59

a suspect there's nothing to turn

5:01

back now you guys we've heard on the worst

5:03

books i've ever other my life with i be funded

5:05

turn the t bomb and show you another

5:07

story as it says and unless

5:09

they're after but get that really

5:12

believe that this week fellow

5:14

bride teresa judy

5:16

say see gives you like eight different

5:19

pronunciations different think she says she likes to say

5:21

it's you days knows you dice as a citizen

5:23

america judy say as he said on tv and

5:25

you ditzy as has he says the to her family

5:27

she says she actually doesn't care how you pronounce

5:30

it because her father in law then

5:33

passed away and she's like that are not honoring

5:35

anybody it literally doesn't matter what you say yes

5:37

she says she herself a call it or three

5:39

so nobody's around anyway the referring

5:41

to he said she did say turning

5:44

the tables themselves size to inmate

5:46

and back again a new

5:48

york times best seller

5:51

this was a bug where i remember going

5:53

oh on your terms of salary literally doesn't

5:56

mean anything when when i think he has

5:58

had any my readers bit in the cell

5:59

that the new york debating and everyone's

6:02

like it but it is the best on there you

6:04

, they like to say has the united states

6:06

than york times bestseller see distinctions that

6:08

are actually meaningless ss claire

6:10

right quick before we really dive into

6:13

this but can you as housewives

6:15

nowhere give us a quick

6:18

background and who is teresa

6:20

tricipher the original cast

6:23

members i haven't been super dedicated

6:25

to jersey dedicated felt jersey was too close too home

6:27

it hurt me it just felt that

6:29

is everything that tried to escape routes

6:31

one thing when you're watching when you're the tribe orange

6:33

county but we're watching it and you're like oh this

6:35

what people think my mom is yeah my

6:38

mom would kill herself as be

6:41

such luxuries as each as each forever you

6:43

get lotta yeah and so okay but

6:45

i don't roughly she was able to the original cast members

6:47

she is insane she

6:50

has insane real hot head as she never

6:52

apologizes she's always causing drama

6:54

of the never apologize as he is

6:56

an interesting archetype that archetype think every

6:59

franchise has she's franchise camera sees

7:02

the right to hide from dallas something

7:04

you learn from arsenal housewives is no matter

7:07

how awful you to the the linear life there is

7:09

a certain type of woman who i guess is fun when she's

7:11

fun and because she's so strong and ever backs

7:13

down the other women just have to kind of rally around

7:15

her and take what they get when they got it and

7:18

see as i have a person no matter how

7:20

abusive she has towards the women her life

7:23

they all end up having to forgive her just

7:25

because she won't back down for since he just a disabled up

7:27

serious us and seems like they do like her

7:29

like something about hurt his likable

7:31

to the women in her life because they don't sun

7:33

her completely to the real else i

7:35

guess now let's die then

7:38

she'll and i guess was sorry half

7:41

life and then will go in may and then will go back

7:43

again truth is he say

7:45

nay gorda was

7:49

born may eighteen nineteen

7:51

seventy two is a cool sixty years

7:53

old and his book came out to doesn't succeed

7:55

monsieur forty four when i came

7:58

out suresh from the jails

7:59

out she was released from jail

8:02

december twenty third two thousand and sixteen and she was

8:04

under house arrest than for like

8:07

humans she got her anklet asked

8:09

february says twenty sixteen and this book

8:11

came out february ninth twenty six he and and

8:14

don't you guys worry we did get the addition

8:16

now with an exclusive bonus stop

8:19

there which covers what happens

8:21

in the march after such came

8:23

out in february is either as i

8:25

mean unless you and behind the magic law attend

8:28

the table roka can talk talk some serious

8:30

business i rather than than as

8:32

a basically the way we do this podcast of your quarters

8:34

afternoons the episode go that tuesday i

8:36

tend to try to read the books

8:38

wednesday night i try to get a couple of pages

8:41

and and then thursday morning i'll wake up at six am

8:43

and just read till i'm done i go get a coffee

8:45

and i just sit down while we're going behind

8:47

the car and and are hard shares i don't

8:49

fall asleep and i just read

8:51

until i meet really i'm a record

8:53

and i just dump it's this book

8:56

last i don't know what energy

8:58

was coming off of that that repelled me to such

9:00

an extreme source i

9:03

am i not open it was either the point where i went to bed

9:05

at nine thirty pm just to get away

9:07

senate i was like wow i can't read up

9:09

on the sleep and wake up earlier than

9:11

normal and that assists i look up i when i

9:13

got my coffee i the

9:15

not bars i thought to read i went to the parts

9:18

to to get some sunshine of my face bees were attacking

9:20

the east side , of my

9:22

ah maybe bees are attacking the her

9:24

abuser i'll be on a third party attacking my

9:26

bagels so i am so i really

9:29

could ever be was just like i normally

9:31

have no problem just sitting down and bang out i wake

9:33

up early before my brain knows better than to distract

9:35

yourself and just sit and i read until and it's

9:37

never been harder for me to read a book my life's my eyes had

9:39

nothing to land on i came explain

9:42

it is like ice skating every time i stepped

9:44

out of the book i slipped and fell my back there was nothing

9:46

to grapple with i've never to book like

9:48

at you don't easily send you in feelings of sadness

9:51

that still inside of yourself in your bones you're

9:53

like man i feel cold inside right now

9:55

so i usually when i open about the first thing

9:57

i do as i can see how many pages it is i

9:59

know i need to pay nine

10:01

cells and i opened a

10:03

bug isola to eighty five and has like no

10:05

big thing that lets like inhibits like

10:07

opened it and there are like

10:10

the team pages of sequel

10:12

rent in roman noodles number

10:14

when i

10:16

saw them i felt sadness in my

10:18

though i

10:21

don't know how her and piper from

10:23

orange is the new came out and she wrote world's

10:25

most boring book and that other one i wrote like

10:28

and 8th season sitcom for netflix

10:30

first

10:34

to an author's note names

10:36

have been changed, then a letter

10:38

to the the but letter to the reader wants

10:40

to let guys know one thing

10:42

only you don't know real

10:44

her i don't throw to see who i i really am

10:47

not put the media of the real housewives of new jersey

10:49

hasn't made me out to be i am not a

10:51

a bitch i'm a good-hearted laid-back

10:53

and caring mom but like every

10:55

other out there i'm not perfect the

10:57

letter the readers actually four pages of her just

10:59

explaining that she was a real and

11:01

then an inmate and then traffic and it really is just

11:04

a subtitle the book but also that

11:06

you don't understand she's such a good person

11:08

mostly that if you came into this thinking that she was a bad

11:10

person much yet any faults you are

11:12

wrong she also wants us to know because

11:14

you may be single teresa haven't we seen you explode

11:16

at people and flip tables and scream and

11:19

be insane on t v and she

11:21

says my problem is that i am too trusting

11:23

and see the good and everyone was just gotten me into a

11:25

lotta trouble over the years i would love to see

11:28

her in a job interview at my attention to

11:30

detail to good everyone

11:32

tells him she's so good the

11:34

problem is is to pure of her and you know when

11:36

you're so pure of heart you end up really hurting people

11:39

and screaming at them and causing problems they also

11:41

point out the sentence i'm not a bit

11:44

some a good hearted laid back and tearing

11:46

mom she is obsessed

11:48

with the fact that she's fact mom and i don't

11:50

think there's anything wrong loving

11:53

being a mom i think that that's actually a good thing

11:55

if you have children to like love they or their

11:57

parents that the way that she thinks

11:59

being a that is like a co sign

12:02

i met everything she's

12:04

i said love slugging my children i'm

12:06

a good person and it's like i don't know i like

12:08

what i can bare minimum stuff yeah i think that there are a lot

12:10

of people who love using the fact that their mom to

12:12

be like i deserve to be

12:14

first the mine as as or to the desert desert see that

12:16

because i'm hearing for lives

12:19

and it's like have a huge swing into this world

12:21

i don't think that you get a fucking go

12:23

darfur making a choice and seeing it through

12:25

the own she the perfect case study

12:28

of the opposite of what makes a good memoir and that's

12:30

what this is such a bad memory specifically

12:32

looking at a in china last week and the way that he was puzzling

12:35

reexamining i'm southern conflating kind of belong

12:37

there is none a lowly i'm being honest

12:39

and vulnerable and be like here's

12:41

what i realize as bad about me here's how i

12:44

try to change that here's my new at times

12:46

and here's i gave back here's the

12:48

last couple sentences of her letter to the reader

12:51

my faith was on of things that help me the most in prison

12:53

bringing getting close to god help me through one the most difficult

12:55

times my life i took care of my body and mind

12:58

by walking and running around the track them as alexa taking

13:00

as as as classes doing yoga eating

13:02

seen going to church and reading official books

13:05

and reflecting on how i could use this experience to change

13:07

analysts i've learned to come out of the prison a stronger

13:09

better person i wanted the rather see a new teresa

13:12

a different teresa will actually the

13:14

trees i always was i

13:17

, gonna read my peak cell which i've

13:19

been this whole time by i can

13:21

imagine being like this is a transformative experience

13:23

that let me right back to a who i had actually always insists

13:26

that getting i mean the way that she does does

13:28

not apologize for a fucking single

13:30

thing in this bug there's always a reason why

13:32

it for a lot of awareness is there

13:34

i say socking okay and ago

13:37

and nearly ten if you follow follow

13:39

book says boo yah energy

13:43

i do it after every paragraph she's like

13:45

oh yeah bit surface bit mean that can

13:47

i tell you why is it literally in this

13:49

italics at the end of the it's

13:51

shocking things he goes oh madonna

13:53

the isis is assists and you boo

13:55

yah other italiana right yeah i know

13:58

the answer is literally has a that

14:00

she uses a palace i than emphasize

14:02

the end of a shocking moment in a boo

14:04

yah such as and i feel like and sisters

14:06

translates your culture because i grew up in proximity

14:09

to a lot of italians and for meters designers there it's

14:11

you and your family bow diclofenac like and

14:13

always i i know it is a man

14:15

i feel like you're not really getting the new on special i'm

14:18

getting a new ones and saying that

14:20

in the energy of a boo yah she's

14:22

literally punctuating the sentences with

14:24

a colloquial isn't i'd see

14:26

i'm not saying they're that the places where buddha

14:29

would have then i'm saying the energy of

14:31

putting them at the end of sentences emphasize

14:33

herself because he couldn't write a sentence

14:36

that emphasize in that way the fact that he needed

14:38

to i'd and i'd have like saying

14:40

at the end to show you that this was a crazy moment

14:43

is ugly i entered the even know if there were

14:45

booing they wouldn't have been the same places

14:47

as the madonna me as this coffee

14:50

smith did

14:52

you follow me on it that limb

14:56

whenever of fun of a series of had

14:58

enough of this book i want to die now seeking okay

15:01

i was a there a couple weeks like this

15:04

, and i look and tobago what comes next summer

15:06

at the prologue proposals

15:11

siro quakes is there are is

15:13

think three things you can get out of this bug

15:15

one three says a nice person

15:18

to what happens teresa is

15:20

unfair and three is

15:22

he loves job yeah

15:25

it's a big since this is bogus to

15:27

be like you think it's

15:28

you iran

15:29

we love each other s

15:32

there's nothing in the world like the love

15:34

we have for each other in that it's

15:36

not there and the world is not

15:39

a black health hazard

15:41

the prologue as than just the exact day she gets

15:43

thrown into jail and what happens

15:45

and he the land and yet they give them your clothes made

15:47

to a body search of as dark they

15:50

went in went middle the night so the media

15:52

wouldn't get her she's a quality leave me alone

15:54

and i'm like wow teresa result

15:56

this bug like you know i the only view on each to be so

15:58

lucky that they won't leave you alone or he would have nothing

16:00

can i say i actually did that in

16:02

this part of the bugs feel sad that in these

16:05

moments are like number one concern with the

16:07

way the media was going to exploit

16:09

turn embarrass her i guess i didn't

16:11

there are times where i do feel i'm

16:14

sorry that media did that sometimes someone's

16:16

been sick in in a hostile mike leave them alone i

16:18

do think like fraud

16:20

and know i'm just saying like

16:23

i don't know that much about her i don't know anything

16:25

about her other than she was a real has such into into jail

16:27

and so it reading this far

16:30

as specially when she's i hadn't that the notorious

16:32

squat and costs and she's talking about what's going

16:34

to reminder that she's afraid some of them get a photo

16:36

of and league that to the press posted not

16:38

stop him as you think it but the phone she's driving she's

16:41

driving is having and store but the fact that like that

16:43

was her big fear when she is undergoing this moment

16:45

that is a very rude awakening

16:47

and her fear is the press

16:49

i'm just like that does sought later

16:51

seasons the over uses that to the point i'm like actually

16:54

don't feel bad anymore you need to shut [unk] dot but

16:56

here i did feel bad the i guess i have

16:58

no sympathy for her something they did and this

17:00

is not my soon to jail but this does the supper thing i now

17:02

as a new jersey at girls as

17:04

after sandy when a lot of the houses were destroyed

17:06

people got the my relief in order to rebuild their houses

17:09

and because and show her husband as a construction

17:11

worker he took on a lot of

17:13

see my job to help people rebuild their houses

17:16

and was notorious for just dropping

17:18

off all of the stuff that he needed in the

17:20

not doing the job but taking all of the money

17:22

and so taking everybody's release money and leaving

17:24

them with no house so

17:26

i'm sorry that choosing to be on a reality show and and

17:28

choosing do illegal things lead you to a

17:30

situation where yeah i'm not

17:32

saying that i overall so bad for i'm just saying

17:34

throughout this but this is i think the only

17:37

place i felt a drop of sympathy reading

17:39

this one car i was like maybe i'm going to end

17:41

this book liking her but we're still in the roman

17:43

numerals and i didn't know

17:46

into the main buck lighting though

17:49

she gets there she says i was so wearing the clothes

17:51

i had on when i lost my house my black the lower

17:53

rhinestone emblazoned fab illini jacket

17:55

me for the launch of my line of cocktails or

17:57

black skinny utterly insane tops

17:59

that am i got box of course

18:01

my black leggings and running shoes

18:03

honestly she saw at the paparazzi taken a photo with all of

18:05

her branded outfits it would have been

18:07

great promo i glanced at a picture

18:09

on the card this is not my best at us and

18:11

said as he got at almost four in the morning but it was

18:13

the worst i their snack

18:16

at least you didn't mind she literally said someone

18:18

did and up really think the media later on blading carrick

18:20

sensitive as a good pick serve okay good for you

18:22

teresa cynicism sale and

18:24

then we back to that growing

18:26

up gorka so she gets the

18:28

whole history of her family her parents

18:30

immigrated from italy she's little brother

18:32

joe gorda you may know him if you know her he's

18:35

her brother on the show and in real life as

18:37

a reality says this is not

18:39

as a doctor as she grew up of is very

18:41

strict old school italian catholics

18:44

you wanna be famous i mean like every

18:46

reality starbuck we buy that she

18:48

grew up wanting to the a famous singer and after

18:51

i like it she use the excuse that because their parents

18:53

are immigrants a like didn't know the you could sign

18:55

up for gymnastics and dance classes that

18:57

that's honestly i see they succeeded

18:59

in the are it's it's because her parents had

19:01

another sign up for there have been not because

19:03

just like wouldn't have been that i that she ends

19:05

up living with their parents until she gets married at

19:08

twenty seven which we were saying i feel

19:10

like back in the day that fills

19:12

lay it feels like maybe she was the last piece

19:14

on the south a dozen he'll soon i will say

19:16

doesn't feel crazy i mean

19:18

i see no our parents era i think

19:20

you can get married later than that however if

19:22

you're from i live at home until you've been

19:24

six up to the always called sir

19:27

that that is late see seems to come

19:29

from a background where but she was

19:31

doing from the times you guys with high school was looking for a husband

19:34

so shut up marrying to see joe judaize

19:37

who they actually had known their whole lives

19:39

there set up together they have been fun from the time

19:41

they were babies his dad actually visited

19:43

teresa's in the hospital and she was born so

19:46

she really was like who do i know

19:49

it wasn't like wasn't marriage past there's something

19:51

there's something to lie about how she'd always

19:53

had a crush on him she says that when they were little

19:55

his he is older than her and she always

19:57

on his is the cutest boy i guess in high

19:59

school the hook up a little that after

20:01

high school when available singled out hook up a little

20:03

bear they like oliver kind of romantically

20:06

in an hour but never officially data to instill

20:09

it they were like in their mid twenties they

20:11

started eating fear we got married very

20:13

shortly that like athena they decide to commit each

20:15

other they were done that signed sealed delivered

20:17

but it does kind of feel like he

20:20

was sustaining around having around fun time and she

20:22

was like when your id come pick come up that's

20:24

up that's thing though it works out perfectly what we got

20:26

together when we were meant to get together and as i get together

20:29

when he was right to stop publicly

20:31

sleeping around and then start sleeping around disliked

20:33

off camera not even off camera of

20:35

yeah the i thought

20:38

about the cooking the part of this book that isn't

20:40

about prison is all

20:42

as as her promoting her cookbooks you like

20:44

my mother would make beautiful me balls and i

20:46

learned how to make beautiful me balls and all these beautiful

20:49

me both are in my book skinny italian

20:51

she gives a really lengthy description the everyone

20:53

in her life because i think seed

20:56

didn't have enough words to fill a buck

20:58

and a lot of sense of for the characteristics

21:00

to someone where i'm like i don't think you

21:02

know that word means elena just give that

21:04

this story really clegg society that

21:06

her father and says sometimes though

21:08

he was too much of a perfectionist he was

21:10

a cobbler ten or eleven years another woman came

21:13

in with a pair of christian leave a time

21:15

sir a pair and the souls ralph's gestapo

21:17

so the dad's spray painted the souls

21:20

of the she's blacks as they didn't look stuff

21:22

anymore and then the woman team into the the pursue

21:24

them of like you ruined my shoes

21:26

and he was like oh my goodness so the need a

21:28

spray painted them read and she's like that's the kinda

21:31

main he was and it's like bad

21:33

cobblers that's , what a perfectionist

21:36

loses it all the time so give you a story

21:38

that as she draws the conclusion

21:40

from thing conclusion from up have the conclusion i drink how

21:43

about i'm grateful them appears as a sort of me i

21:45

never did growing up as too terrified my dad

21:47

as you the never what to do anything that would make them think i wasn't

21:50

grateful as the was afraid would have what would happen

21:52

see puzzle is like about how strict

21:54

they were and how because there's the said she never got in trouble

21:57

the different cell phones

21:59

our

21:59

pretty sure

22:00

an offer sheet i'm sorry the other times that

22:02

is how did have liked this time i cut class

22:05

and was suspended this hum i thought

22:07

a girl in a hallway and i was suspended

22:09

or years ago okay it doesn't sound like you are getting in

22:11

trouble off and even to suspensions

22:13

i never got a suspension as descended

22:15

one panting aground seven

22:18

be sad assess assess i believe

22:20

i'm just saying i feel like to say i'd never gone

22:22

shovel i was always a good girl and then has

22:25

been suspended by is she key players

22:27

have a girls who that are groceries and i'm raising my daughter

22:29

to be good girls to is good for

22:31

virgin like i think birds and

22:34

something calling teenage girls good girls

22:36

really gives me the heebie jeebies she

22:38

says her parents instilled a strong work ethic

22:40

and her and her example is

22:43

later on at book signings for the for

22:45

cookbooks i wrote i would ever take a break i

22:48

don't know that like my numero uno

22:50

sign of a good work ethic is scissors like signed

22:52

books at assigning when people have lined

22:55

up to have you sign a bus as long as

22:57

someone would wait to pay me money that's

22:59

how long i would wait and a seat the

23:01

money can you imagine wanting

23:03

to me treated you did say more than she wants to

23:05

make money off of yeah that would be a very

23:07

sad place to be as my father was

23:09

the king of the house my brother was the prince every night

23:12

after dinner i was when he was expected to clean up and

23:14

do the dishes he was just in the take off

23:16

i always clean my brother's room for him i

23:18

put away my laundry him and his laundry every saturday

23:20

would help my mom can the house of a dust mop floors

23:22

clean the bathroom bucket the whole house he didn't

23:24

do any of this i never questioned that are got angry

23:26

about it while let me tell you about

23:28

was ever a my letters like to clean up my brother's

23:30

room i would have starts house down

23:32

instance a photo of i did my

23:34

brother laundry then he

23:37

doesn't he married saw it she says

23:39

not only is he the love of my life she's also my best

23:41

friend he's always been there for me and always treated me

23:43

so well okay i do want to clarify for those

23:45

the who aren't he burn up today untreated

23:48

to dj she is no longer

23:50

do decide i've as a sad most

23:52

of this bugs dedicated to be like me and joe are perfectly

23:55

happy the back the fuck off i think

23:57

they were divorced within days after that by

23:59

now house that is looking at they are divorced and

24:01

i looked it up they got divorced and twenty nine team

24:03

but he went to jail and twenty sixteen to

24:05

twenty nineteen and she was in jail some

24:08

twenty six kinda twenty sixteen and

24:10

then they spent december to marched together

24:12

in march she had to surrender to prison cell

24:14

at a year the for they wrote this birth

24:17

to now what

24:18

they were only it in the same

24:20

side of a fence for

24:23

are you know him as is all

24:25

in all i had a happy childhood muttered something eleven

24:28

respect them my family to love god

24:30

to always her do the right thing and to be a good life and metics

24:32

all things and passing on my own daughters today

24:35

is true at all she loves his family

24:37

to ashley's played any luck i think

24:39

it's great to love your family and he played it i'd

24:41

love our family and i think if you have a family

24:44

you said love and if you have children you should

24:46

love them or he said have had them for this idea

24:48

that's a love your own selves ran and to do

24:50

things for your own family it makes you

24:52

like a same it's not above

24:54

and beyond is that great for the community

24:56

for you to like the people who looks just like you keep

24:59

seeing like i should have to go to jail for normal

25:01

things i love my daughters

25:03

and you it yeah okay can you love somebody who's

25:05

not your daughter could you

25:07

have isn't related she'll also i

25:10

do the same said to think that if someone within

25:12

your exact same position to your exact same kinds

25:14

and was exactly summers you in

25:16

every other way except they did not have four children using

25:19

thought person deserves a harder sentence and

25:21

you do they because they don't have children

25:23

i don't agree with that the

25:25

only makes sense since i agree

25:28

that having to leave your kids for a full year in

25:30

very formative times in their lives

25:33

really heartbreaking and difficult i think

25:35

that he shouldn't have them crimes like

25:37

you know we are normally like no one

25:39

cigarette a gel rehab normally a have

25:41

a the air but i'd abolish and

25:44

very specific hatred right

25:46

now for the real housewives who

25:49

do fraud in order to have insane

25:51

really like agreed to sli elaborate lifestyles

25:54

and era to jane a shitty

25:56

job all of these people it really

25:58

makes me sick order to look

26:00

ready for reality tv broke lies

26:03

it was even just for reality those it's for themselves

26:05

it up it saves should have more than

26:07

everybody else and i don't have any

26:09

sympathy for it sorry that does he wanted

26:11

to be famous and that then he went to jail people

26:13

ones though about shallow i don't know if you want

26:15

your privates ever yeah i also

26:17

just have no sympathy for the way that she has

26:20

no sympathy for anyone else in

26:22

that jail i mean she does have a lot

26:24

of like sentences of saying most

26:26

evil and here don't deserve this most of these people

26:28

should be dealing with as i do so there's not

26:30

a larger harper

26:32

and others like now larger understanding of like

26:35

human rights or seneca

26:37

inequality as she keeps saying why

26:40

did god put me in a situation so many

26:42

the people here don't deserve to be here i don't deserve to be

26:44

here there's never a next step of

26:46

and i have a platform and i have a book and i'm

26:48

going to my power to help there's

26:50

no like okay now that i'm out of jail

26:53

and same as a gun that

26:55

am i going to pursue a various

26:57

prison abolition that group seen on

26:59

a me and like am i gonna has she says literally

27:02

the send us a lot mostly people don't

27:04

deserve to live i passed the where they have this is not fair

27:07

they shouldn't treat us like that most people do not

27:09

deserve to be treated like says there's never

27:11

a second thought of and how do we change that

27:13

right and it's always book ended with i

27:15

am miserable most of us

27:18

don't deserve to be here it's always about

27:20

herself and then she can broaden it's a

27:22

tiny tiny amount that's bigger

27:24

than to be coming mrs juicy

27:26

joe she says this about

27:28

joe and you guys follow us on instagram

27:30

to see this clip or look up aerosols i do

27:32

think he needs he see the clip

27:35

from the real housewives where they haven't very clearly

27:37

on the phone at a family gathering talking

27:40

to a woman is he's having an affair with where

27:42

he then says oh no my bitch wife

27:45

is coming she's such a fucking process

27:47

and you i go watch that scene and think about

27:49

that scene when she says shop

27:51

across as a tough guy sometimes but he is variously

27:53

we always have a great time together is almost

27:56

always in a good mood and so my joan i are both

27:58

very easy going and be less less all the he's

28:00

always treated me like a woman should be treated is always

28:02

sick and need a nice restaurants and stay one about me beautiful

28:05

purple guess he's always so kind and gentle toward

28:07

me and if you couldn't gas i love

28:09

love love love love his body see

28:11

loves to say that he love love love love love

28:13

something that always for loves see

28:16

a sudden she goes into the fact that they had known each other their whole

28:18

lives that they finally got together when

28:20

she showed up with him as his day to a family

28:22

party everybody was shocked and then she is assisting

28:24

credible insightful votes my brother

28:27

jelly was like why are you

28:29

kidding me the was surprised that happy

28:31

for us to i couldn't quite

28:33

why are you kidding me truly

28:36

i've never read something less telling less

28:38

telling life back to mean anything i

28:40

feel like he does it look up that's what you say when

28:42

you're not listen anything video games seriously

28:45

as emulate oh no way joe

28:47

it's ah but another big oh joe gorka

28:49

yeah i know him and then she goes

28:51

through a describing all have heard cells

28:53

ran that she says her oldest daughter

28:56

is an amazing intelligent grounded beautiful girl she's

28:58

a gifted student in wants to be a criminal defense lawyer

29:00

and sugar that because she has seen

29:02

what so and i have been through and wants

29:04

to help people like very

29:08

interesting dan

29:10

yeah in this book they really see the lies

29:13

and think that happen to them yeah like

29:15

spitefully anyway and i

29:17

also want to read this other to skip san so

29:19

they have four daughters it on e to get all them did

29:21

you know that adrianna is the sweetest most precious

29:24

little girl she's heights explain that adrianna

29:26

is just the most loving it so dang

29:29

it babe year but the story

29:32

see uses to go with their underside

29:34

as the to say she says

29:37

it once milan yeah when of other

29:39

daughters fell off a ladder in the grass and

29:41

says time to get a halloween decorations down at the

29:43

south and adrianna bus to her sides

29:45

mixer sides sister was okay sister

29:47

love her for that i feel like when you

29:49

see someone fall off fall ladder at the instinct

29:51

is to rush to make sure they're okay and if

29:53

you don't use of in fact raised

29:56

fact sociopath start to

29:58

accept

29:58

and then again

29:59

that a person it okay run

30:02

to get in adult or hall someone

30:04

who can help you better than your about how thing

30:06

that's it anything else you raise

30:08

the fucking linux she also

30:11

says that she told zero of is going on she was

30:13

thirteen when it happened the other two girls were

30:15

like ten and ten and she told them that she was

30:17

going to prison to write a book but

30:19

she had a live at the prison to know how to write the books

30:21

and the little as go adriano was in preschool

30:23

and they just photo shoot going away for work and is explained

30:26

to her where she has got laughing i do think

30:28

a factor they cannot tell the kids there

30:30

in jail

30:31

crazy law

30:32

and then obviously and comes out that they've personnel

30:35

not adrianna maybe but the other two they go to school

30:38

those kids know that their parents are in jail for batteries

30:40

in this on the news at the top of the town officer

30:43

second it had she yeah the

30:45

thirteen she got thing like it's up to you

30:47

you have to raise the girls now and you can be like i

30:49

know mom i'll take her of my sisters

30:51

as years ago so proud of that little girl and i know that

30:54

that is the reality the situation yes she laughed

30:57

a lotta kids for any single parents

30:59

but damn as if that is a tough burden

31:02

to shoulder as a thirteen year olds that well

31:04

i'm amanda three now i do think

31:06

it's crazy that they wouldn't tell the kids what

31:08

was happening dot the cheating moment

31:10

like that's where you turn around and it's

31:12

like a very easy trick to so you've

31:14

learned your lesson that to be like this

31:16

is what i told my kids and this is how i wanted them

31:18

to learn from our mistakes i don't outside

31:21

is really hard i suck at santa it's so

31:23

black and white that bad guys that are present

31:26

at are now i don't know how i would handle

31:28

it and i don't know how i would tell my ear

31:30

of them going to jail for a year max

31:32

brod i don't know how i would do it i'm

31:34

just saying i do think that they said now i feel

31:36

like if you're gonna step out of your kid's life

31:38

eight to nine years

31:40

that i guess i don't know that i would tell my kids

31:42

i'm going to jail if they're that young but like

31:44

you decide they're gonna find out so would you rather

31:46

than find out from you and you have the ability

31:48

to explain to them in a way that you see say or would

31:50

you rather than has like like he just had

31:52

a sea of very black and white salads for bad

31:54

guys so would you rather than be at school and

31:56

have someone or quasi like your name is

31:58

it a day right you biggest not

32:01

as easy as being like well i'm

32:03

off to prison and on the it's easier all

32:05

i just think it's like the reality of a set

32:07

another hired him or her but i'm going to jail to

32:09

be honest i mean what's his argument obsessive

32:11

leah has he wants her to speak the girls

32:14

and if you're not a good girl you will leave for a year

32:17

goodbye he notices

32:19

that her kids know that she knows more than seasoning

32:21

i think it's her kids i just like constantly

32:23

lying to them like she's lying about

32:25

her relationship susan i'm an

32:27

african , three so i hitters the to

32:30

to also agree that it's a tough parenting setser

32:33

as hop i hop and

32:35

saying i don't think she did or a it also here's

32:37

the thing starts out when she was married to jobs shoes were can't

32:39

calvin klein which did make me stop or second calvin

32:41

klein calvin think people forget

32:43

are just so now that before us are doing rojas i've

32:45

enjoyed a successful career in the fashion business

32:48

the actually not just the forces or general has

32:50

size it was like nothing she had her first

32:52

child she stopped seeing though

32:54

or to be like how do people dead we've

32:57

never seen a and it was like not a part

32:59

of your recent past she just like

33:01

wasn't associate buyer at various pendant

33:03

he is she wasn't running coughing thing she

33:05

also talks about an italian

33:08

belief called malone cio

33:10

the evil i was pronounced malik

33:13

i don't okay it's spelled like malone's show

33:15

is pronounced malik but it's an evil eye

33:17

and basically they think someone can cast

33:19

an evil eye on you when people are jealous of you and so she

33:21

tells the story about how it turned out joe had an evil

33:23

i put on him and she was worried she hadn't evil eye on

33:25

her and i thought she was getting headaches and

33:27

then she says that's why italians always wear horns

33:29

around their necks to ward off someone who looks at them with envy

33:32

it comes from somebody who sells of the when she goes johor

33:34

one when you started doing really well in business that are on

33:36

it didn't seem to work though given what happened to us

33:39

happens to them now he wears

33:41

a huge horn around his neck that his mother got him in italy

33:43

and was blessed by priests i am obsessed

33:46

with the fact that she seems to think she went to prison

33:48

because the f b i was jealous of

33:50

her she , the i r

33:52

as was like just being petty and

33:54

they wanted their giant ago mcmansion

33:57

we have to put up photos of their house is the ugly

34:00

is it agree i mean it's ugly and it makes

34:02

no sense is one of those houses where they have

34:04

like twelve different types of columns in our room

34:07

i love that i think if you can't take a column

34:09

have all the column i've

34:11

never designed a house but yeah

34:14

and as you make me to imagine

34:15

it

34:17

i know you're kidding but i think cc madison

34:19

is it's a you've got a whole the roof up some the

34:23

bill has as a new jersey coming to fruition

34:25

at first they were looking at a friend of hers

34:28

they were causing the so they were really it seems

34:30

like thickness sweet time getting this it off the ground

34:33

she says that they came to her with an offer us

34:35

and then she spent eleven months thinking

34:37

about it the wonder if i believe that

34:40

i mean maybe they just kind of floated

34:42

in offer more like is this the

34:44

kind of thing that happens be that like to have your part

34:46

of their and then a later the show that

34:49

officially greenland and they're like okay well if you

34:51

want to do that we're starting a mile yeah she doctor

34:53

how she was friends with a lot of islam into begin with she

34:55

has already friends athena is ours as a challenge

34:58

and is a shock to you who sees as a little

35:00

sister i never had because she understood me so well

35:02

she could tell that a set of my voice other i was on cloud

35:04

nine or fresher to been believe that

35:08

voices that sound the same that's the

35:10

basic human yeah

35:12

i don't know anything about her but i d c

35:14

like if she called me right now i will be able to tell

35:16

it on a scale from cloud nine

35:19

q faster you beyond belief where she leaned

35:21

i don't know there's almost anybody that i couldn't

35:23

tell the difference between i guess someone is like

35:25

that the clinically monetize she

35:28

often as that how averaging wasn't gonna be a real

35:30

housewives says can be jersey mom's

35:33

as you talking about talking about the success of the rail has has orange

35:36

county in atlanta and york they

35:38

was you did in jersey was is as like the women

35:40

on the other shows the ladies and franklin lakes

35:42

lived in unbelievable houses drove

35:44

range over the mercedes lucky sob

35:47

of course looks good at all times

35:49

which yeah unbelievable

35:51

houses is true i can't bully seven assists

35:54

drove range rover mercedes i guess objectively

35:57

true

35:59

in short

36:01

sure the get into her time on

36:03

the show her fields and then how

36:05

her family sell it to bits

36:09

i never thought dame and money to ruin a family

36:11

until it ruins mine i mean you never

36:13

saw it she also said actually had no idea

36:15

that being in the limelight meant that everything is

36:17

that are did would be scrutinized and would bring on a jealousy

36:19

i had never seen before from strangers friends and family

36:22

like talk about molo keogh she

36:24

thinks everyone is jealous of her i've ever

36:26

seen somebody so committed to not

36:28

taking countability doesn't matter how badly

36:31

she has wronged you she's ago i guess you're jealous of me

36:33

and that's why you're mad that i broke the window

36:35

to your home her cities as a relationship

36:37

with her brother and that melissa gorgas

36:40

who ended up on real has as new jersey

36:42

and she's other releases at first fell to pieces

36:45

versatile she blames melissa so

36:47

the fact that when she married her brother jelly

36:49

they stop softener has nights pursuit

36:52

of melissa's fault because they were talk on the phone every day like

36:54

the so then she doesn't he started

36:56

doing real has as the first two seasons it is is

36:58

so busy that she just

37:00

didn't see them unless they're at

37:02

a major family gathering for two years

37:04

she never made time for them and she's like

37:07

the oh now i would be the end bike

37:09

and they understand that so when melissa's

37:11

busy she's a bets when traces busied

37:14

they are a bad spur not understanding yes

37:16

there is she gets the call that

37:18

melissa has been added to the class and she's furious

37:21

that she's finding out through the real has has producers

37:23

and not their melissa herself and she's like why didn't

37:25

they tell me they even want to be on the show is

37:27

like i don't know you haven't talked him into years

37:30

also she says that joe had asked to the

37:32

and seems before as you like i thought they want to be in the background

37:34

as you know that they literally monetary on the shows

37:36

you that is just my job as as as a know they wanted to do

37:38

my job to say i'm not talk to them more than once

37:41

every two years or so does some as they were asking

37:43

specifically can we be on the show with the ones you like it but

37:45

it's not up to me she says that they would ask regular

37:47

be and scenes as you that i can decide who gets the dnc

37:49

and then they went to the people who get to decide who gets the

37:51

and scenes and those people said the and more see and and

37:54

that she said why don't they ask me to be and seems

37:56

anyway it ruined her family

37:58

they will interfere name

38:00

then of course they get to the line about

38:02

the prostitution for which is a very

38:04

famous moment in reality t

38:06

v history if if you don't watch rojas as the jersey

38:08

a thank you they are aware of the just of her

38:10

banging the table she says i do

38:13

have along he is that once know i'll some unless

38:15

it with a blowtorch smiles mortified

38:17

at my i can't believe i did that table flipping moment

38:19

when i didn't realize at the time it was that it's actually

38:21

what helped put me on the road to stardom the

38:23

human error to both of thing i saw the south my funny

38:25

antics my unending love for juicy

38:28

joe the way i don't know my adorable girls

38:30

my over the top lies down a carefree attitude towards life

38:32

said does not care but

38:34

this let me to honey shots here is just not the way it everyone's

38:37

got their this actually this an interesting

38:39

look at something at something real housewives disease

38:41

which is something that i attribute to people on twitter

38:43

a lot and anyone in life who gets positive

38:46

encouragement for negative behaviors and

38:48

i think i see it on twitter when people

38:50

have like persona three like messier sloppy

38:52

or something and and they had a had doubled down into

38:54

that persona to keep the content rolling

38:56

i saw ramona on the street when tambor

38:58

new york and she was acting exactly lox yes

39:00

and that he the south she was like running around

39:02

boulder the ring like an idiot as a something into

39:05

the walls of the buildings walking

39:07

when she was drunk and literally was alone

39:09

on third avenue as the only other person in

39:11

her line of sight nobody else was looking at but she was

39:13

acting like a crazy person alone and

39:16

as i do think when so many people have given

39:18

you attention for your insanity you just start

39:20

only acting insane and then you forget what

39:22

you're doing for the cameron well as you say think

39:25

that's part of why she so dedicated his usage

39:27

so in this book is because i think here's

39:29

a really good people are she does realize or it doesn't

39:31

matter either way she's getting attention for

39:34

her grotesque obsession with his juicy

39:36

little audi answer she is doubling down

39:38

on that because that's what give her more attention

39:40

yes says it has more about reality

39:43

tv drama and feels

39:45

that he's been and she's as holding on to anger only

39:47

makes us better forgiving takes i have a

39:50

spy by to think forgiveness is a two way street

39:52

in reality it is and always i mean

39:54

it literally as as that's not what that word

39:56

means ideally forgiveness is out us

39:58

and another person really lighting and

40:01

putting your piece under the bridge

40:03

or the very as a thing about her is that she learns up forgiveness

40:06

and jail and ,

40:08

it's her forgiving other people she's very

40:10

much like in jail i found

40:12

myself to say that other people are flawed and it's

40:14

successes successes

40:17

realize that some me time to react and anger because we are

40:19

hurt we come off as nasty with fighting words

40:21

that we later regret because we are in pain we're trying

40:23

to protect ourselves defending ourselves to the end so

40:25

many times more bumping right than anything else are

40:27

trying so hard to get others under center point of view without

40:29

understanding where they're coming from we hear

40:32

their words but because we are indefensible we aren't really

40:34

listening but any and who are really hurting

40:36

i just really care about that ourselves to

40:38

i do think she's worry about hurting herself i also would

40:41

give her credit for this as it seems like

40:43

it had any impact in her life at all yeah

40:45

i do think it's something someone explain to her

40:48

and i do think it's something she can parent it doesn't seem

40:50

that there's any evidence that he understood that

40:53

sounds like land celebrity apprentice and only to

40:55

dive into it and then she

40:57

gets into the legal drama which

40:59

is why anyone about this but all the fighting

41:02

getting back stabbing bickering pain and drama

41:04

bickering dealt with on the show was nothing compared to the legal

41:06

nightmare joe and legal face and twenty thirteen

41:08

and twenty fourteen over the legal nightmare

41:10

that they face there's nothing that they said

41:12

nothing were faced with faced legal nightmares when

41:15

she found out they had both been sentenced

41:17

to prison her for one year

41:20

and then and for about four years they were

41:22

getting hit you on a staggered schedule

41:24

she's obviously cried i'm heartbroken my

41:26

parents into the full extent of what was going on i just

41:28

saw them that everything was a me okay they tell me that

41:30

they knew their daughter was someone honest i'm

41:32

as good values and that's what mattered looking

41:34

back i wish that was ah that's true the counted in court

41:37

yeah i'm sure you did i don't know what

41:39

your mom thinks he doesn't really count when it turns out that

41:41

you have been found guilty of them yeah

41:43

their mom the a serial killer i

41:46

think she's indicted however she

41:49

has given the holidays is another family

41:51

and then january says she drives

41:53

to danbury connecticut where she goes to

41:55

jail sees as the dirt and since the to

41:57

my semen and then the world confessing

42:00

she said she had thought about going to need for these embassies

42:02

at my that says she said she did say

42:05

to their skin jail for a period of time i have

42:07

hope and i have faith that you have learned your lesson

42:09

the give me a letter sentence than what the prosecutors

42:12

why me to got as a recently facing twenty one to twice

42:14

a month and presence but the judge that she give me fifteen

42:16

months because i had expressed quote genuine remorse

42:19

and court and because they had no criminal history

42:21

paid my taxes cared for my parents and work for various

42:23

charities she also so that she understood how much

42:25

i love my girls which is perhaps the largest

42:27

after and a decision about when she said i've

42:29

gotta say you're a devoted mother there's a bomb as in

42:31

his girls in their mother off because they live girls

42:33

know bond with the of this doesn't upon you as a mom

42:36

okay i also wanted to read at the they're part

42:38

of the quota i just that said she leaves

42:40

out the best really that it about this is from ashley's

42:42

person all research this is what the judge

42:45

said spread a moment i thought about probe a sense

42:47

i don't honestly believe you understand

42:49

earth that's the loss i need to send a message

42:51

in the eye of the law it doesn't matter who you are

42:54

there are consequences to pay see obviously

42:56

doesn't understand that she did anything wrong and she literally

42:59

cannot believe that there are real world consequences

43:01

for her glancing around a lot of issue on i

43:03

guess the way that she gets credit for

43:05

having genuine remorse the rest of the book

43:08

is her saying they think i'm guilty

43:10

is apparently they think they broke the loss

43:12

i can't believe they think that i did that he

43:15

doesn't even thinks he is guilty

43:17

sheets of the state as i think she deserved to

43:19

go to jail she doesn't think she did anything wrong she

43:21

doesn't have any remorse is unbelievable i went

43:23

upstairs and whole my mom supplements my bedroom

43:25

and told her what happened she started crying

43:28

and she was saying why do you are always such as

43:30

a girl you do not deserve this i started playing

43:32

as my boys fact there's a reason why they

43:34

thought i broke the law we're gonna guy

43:36

an expert and if we can't will do

43:38

the research ourselves on a page on the seek were gonna

43:40

get into all the real hot sides legal drama

43:43

civically theresa and find out

43:45

what it is that she dead because in this book she's

43:47

obsessing so you think she said nothing i have a feeling

43:49

she didn't do nothing i guess the argument

43:51

would be that she didn't break the law it joe

43:53

broke the law and as a bad ago down together like

43:56

he handled all the paperwork the she just trusted

43:58

him but other know why

44:00

would you trust to see june no

44:02

he's getting ready and she has three

44:04

months to surrender to prison they

44:07

also oh four hundred and fourteen

44:09

thousand dollars of restitution to the government

44:12

and him and you like our it on

44:14

suicide elena sell the monster

44:16

house eleven don't let anyone

44:18

wants it actually number has been on the market for quite some

44:20

time turns out only you

44:22

and teresa like all those fucking columns

44:25

and , all the columns and saying i respect

44:28

many columns see tears

44:30

as the next three months at home to prove

44:32

that teachers as he says if you look at my instagram

44:34

from around that time you'll see that i

44:36

did something fun with my daughter's every weekend

44:39

for as many details there are in this story

44:42

it she loves to tie it back to other

44:44

media that you need to accompany

44:47

she's always saying like to get an idea

44:49

of this much that scene from rojas eyes

44:51

to get an idea of this set my twitter account

44:53

it's just like okay three so why don't you just

44:55

tell us a story here i don't understand my know

44:57

everything you had for breakfast every day of your entire fucking

45:00

life but you can't tell me that you and

45:02

your daughters and that horseback riding as

45:04

we're not only see about writer

45:06

obviously but the ghosts the she hired since

45:08

not be good either the dominates the tabloid

45:11

some i did very interesting as he partnered with a people

45:13

magazine writer the from here on out this

45:15

is the worst book of our my life i guess she kept a

45:17

diary not i guess i know she kept a diary as a

45:19

this book like the narrative ization

45:22

of that diaries and it also includes

45:24

excerpts from the diary and when i tell you it

45:26

doesn't read like a diary but not an

45:28

interesting one just a journal of

45:30

every day literally every day that i woke

45:32

up in the slammer breakfast she had a banana of

45:35

oatmeal with raisins and bran muffin and

45:37

then she went martin and then she went three

45:39

times a day she works out she woke up with

45:41

do yoga she waited do

45:43

cardio who do a workout class and then she left

45:45

her stationary bikes is or have three times a day for

45:47

number one goal was to the in the best shape of her life

45:50

once he got out of jail the book is so

45:52

boring i don't know what to say cause

45:54

there's so many details that amount to nothing

45:56

and see those up and sing piper kerman sex

45:58

with all his leg the i've you want to know more

46:01

about danbury it there's this other book about

46:03

it and it's like three so why are you writing a book is

46:05

are not include any the details that you months ago and your

46:07

best advice i keep hearing about

46:10

the dirty exercise bike she's also

46:12

something as a look at says she likes out

46:14

heard lawyer driving her to

46:16

the prison picking up on or has the morning as yes

46:18

and i watched the kitchen as gym zone make sunni

46:20

easy thing are you okay simple me later

46:23

that he had mike with each other like she's getting

46:25

really good a prison she's asking us if we need

46:27

anything now my wow such

46:29

a good one or i hero theresa

46:32

and i do get that she's afraid

46:34

that about the your her daughter like me without

46:36

her i don't think anyone wants to deal at i

46:38

the children a do anything wrong it is sad that they're gonna

46:41

lose their mom for your notice that the gonna lose their father

46:43

for the rest their lives because after jail he was

46:45

deported

46:47

she really thinks that see is

46:49

incredible seed are going to a

46:51

diner in danbury because they got their an

46:53

hour for the deceased they go and get a sandwich

46:56

some he had taken a photo of her sugar's us absolutely unbelievable

46:59

looking back though that thought it was a real housewives

47:01

version of the last supper it literally

47:03

was not you are not jesus christ

47:05

do you think jesus christ dying on the cross

47:08

is equivalent to you going to prison

47:10

for tax fraud anyways as he gets to

47:12

jail as she goes despite what some

47:14

people think and then bury as not a country

47:16

club who thinks that anything you think that prison

47:19

was a country club i think she's bread

47:21

that rumor i know their narrative

47:23

was oh it's like a low rent country

47:25

club ocean as as work out and eat healthy and

47:27

read and do her nails earning one

47:29

believed her i think people

47:31

are worried she was enjoying herself too much the know

47:33

this book is doing the damage control of her own

47:35

room earth but nobody was words you thinking that

47:37

i'm in prison she didn't need to set that

47:39

rumor about heard of that she than had to go incorrect

47:41

the reality of it was that being there was like being

47:44

in hell i felt like i was buried alive

47:46

i felt like so much is happening on the outside and i wasn't

47:48

a part of anything i felt shops you

47:50

are literally trapped in a prison sees

47:53

as i hated this is this of hotdogs and

47:55

sauerkraut and hamburgers and french fries a lot

47:57

women should not be eating like as there is no nutritional

47:59

by you know to the food they gave us see

48:02

cel hung up on the fact that this is it was really

48:04

unhealthy and she was constantly having to pick

48:06

and choose random things see also the people

48:08

the kids and would make her salad that

48:10

weren't on the menu and as if i doing

48:12

any such as is actually also have some things am

48:14

i really here in prison why god why am

48:16

i even here she let it run up to the watergate

48:19

criminals have been as his dot synthesizer my spine

48:21

icing held in a facility that once housed

48:23

the most notorious white collar criminals of our time

48:26

so why am i here you are literally

48:28

a white collar criminal mean he literally broke the law

48:31

in a white colored way imagine you go to a

48:33

podcast idiom be like this podcast studio

48:35

has hosted some those annoying podcast

48:37

years of all time that why am i he says

48:40

whenever , introduces people say

48:43

they were there for financial stuff also

48:45

she also talks about her experiences in

48:47

a celebrity and this presents the last

48:49

name of first and they had seen was that woman

48:51

paper node the last enough for them

48:53

have worn hell are you the last person lauren

48:55

hill and to other thirteen but piper kerman

48:57

was also there but she wasn't same as in jail

48:59

she was an inmate she says the hollis taxes

49:02

and mates waiting to get in there most of the women were

49:04

really friendly a lot of them from the they watch me on the show

49:06

others politics in a bully the the really meeting

49:08

me because there is such big fans okay

49:11

teresa get a fucking grab any

49:13

way people did sell rumors about her to the tabloids

49:16

someone's by the rumor that she sat directly

49:18

on the toilet seat and she was like

49:20

i'd rather die this address and a public toilet

49:22

seat let alone a up for isn't toilet

49:24

seats madonna me on the

49:27

whatever big concerns in the jail

49:29

which jail do understand i do i don't understand is that

49:31

something is gonna sell the tabloids a story about her

49:33

as the she's constantly worried that somebody

49:36

might like have a photograph of what she's doing that

49:38

she also is enough cell with

49:40

five other women i understand

49:43

thinking that you have privacy and our privacy being

49:45

violated and having a photo so the view the idea

49:47

that you would be and sale and

49:49

be like do notice like to think that something might be watching

49:51

and unsexy bert might be watching you you

49:54

are in prison mirror our

49:56

will check ups you are constantly being watched

49:59

as a thing is people did most of the

50:01

there and sell stories about her allowed him there made

50:03

up rumors he dresses every single reminisce bus

50:05

and how ridiculous it is to thing said

50:07

any of them could be trails at one point she was like

50:10

people think i did something happen

50:12

because you didn't want that happens with the pump

50:14

the i and i also understand the

50:17

thing as someone who's three

50:20

four weeks into therapy one

50:22

of the big things i'm working on is being like

50:24

not every outside opinion a view is

50:26

in any way i'm part and and so the fact that she

50:28

sent in line year locked

50:31

up and working on herself doing yoga every

50:33

morning sign to emerge from prisoners

50:35

about version of herself on almost

50:37

every single page as fretting about the

50:39

paparazzi the tabloids the best the that

50:41

where everyone's goofy ass rumors say

50:43

about harvest like okay i don't know that

50:46

a bargain grab your in jail and your concern

50:48

is that people think you're on the top bunk and you're

50:50

in sale and use your concern is that people

50:52

think you're using the toilet growth she's i completely

50:54

unheard jannik the entire place says

50:56

gets buried thirty and instead of being

50:59

like this as far south seas like

51:01

people think i'm growth yeah she has

51:03

an hour bigger picture at the end of the book

51:05

she says i want every day like why

51:07

did god put me through that just listen to come to this

51:09

conclusion and actually like it's got that

51:12

me there so that i could become my said it's to lena

51:14

cells and even though i only lost eight pounds

51:16

he went on two or three sizes that's

51:18

what she took away senate it's so crazy to think that the

51:20

judge thought she showed remorse it so

51:22

fine that who like eleven the country club i

51:25

did go in there and get sexy it

51:28

wasn't wasn't club it was more like a boot from

51:30

another i think she's a throughout the spoke as she only

51:32

has one true references the real housewives

51:34

and so everything either is or is not like the real housewives

51:37

a couple hampshire like the women there were full

51:39

a job and always getting and petty little arguments

51:41

it was just like a real has either should like steady

51:43

way that the it's you girls are fighting over something so ridiculous

51:46

reminds you of anything real has eyes and then later

51:48

so say oh my god i was going to get overwhelmed

51:50

i'd had to watch my back made him the real housewives the but

51:52

never anything like that sometimes

51:55

it's just a real has less ascendancy like jail

51:57

it's not

51:57

the

51:59

love the way that she's like because my

52:02

background is so privileged i

52:04

said not have been in this situation and nuts

52:06

on a big conclusion see can say when she first

52:08

gets to jail she's like i used to love to lie

52:10

on the plus fluffy cream colored carpet my

52:12

bedroom and hop on the phone or tickle the girls

52:15

my walk in closet with twice the size of my new

52:17

room but i had to stop myself i'm thinking

52:19

about that this is what makes it so and

52:21

sympathetic to me the fact that she's i you don't understand

52:23

why i came from it was big and it was

52:25

sent see anyone has not paid for

52:28

this is where are you saying

52:30

that that someone who didn't live in a

52:32

smaller say is it the

52:34

more turbo in jail no one's comfortable

52:37

here teresa no one like said she

52:39

told me not to ask anyone questions nothing she

52:41

also something that you can't trust the when here because most

52:43

of them were criminals sort of

52:45

the roads anything to say as say criminal a criminal

52:48

she also says that chewing gum is concerned

52:50

contraband because inmates could stick it on the lox the

52:52

prevent the officers from getting in or out

52:54

which i found very interesting in light of

52:56

the danny trejo episode last week when i was like why can't

52:59

they just have them right finally

53:01

and teresa's answering the questions that danny was

53:03

asking though i'm gonna be as a guys

53:05

from here on out is a day to day gossip

53:07

about what was going on the jails it's not particularly

53:10

interesting it's not like the and his look at all it doesn't

53:12

explain the higher level politics

53:15

it doesn't tell stories while this whole book or my to

53:17

me as have you ever had a friend's parents are you a story

53:19

that is so fucked boring you don't know where it's going

53:22

because you have be polite you're just spending all of your

53:24

energy nodding along and be like a has

53:26

ah you cannot take in a single word because

53:28

you're just trying to get to the and and not interrupt that

53:30

was his book she was or for eleven

53:32

and a half months and i think we get descriptions

53:35

as a hundred bucks us

53:37

a hundred practice and then also just

53:39

like had exhausted their stories that have been

53:42

interesting doesn't have an interesting weeks and also very

53:44

exploiters and being i can you believe that these women were beating

53:46

each other up of that's the thing is see it

53:48

says no concept of the fact that

53:51

she is very lucky that isn't

53:53

isn't a lifestyles are her she's not

53:55

in a position in life for she's gonna get

53:57

the on back and visit them over and over and over

53:59

again

53:59

my cousin of a satellite is more like

54:02

prison as a matter of ivens not or is that

54:04

a great now you , i

54:06

mean she's a singer and seems as i have zero

54:08

privacy and felt like i couldn't escape i

54:10

mean you literally she

54:13

says the other user in jail

54:15

but jail just happened to be here in jail says he

54:18

says i wanted to avoid even before body needs

54:20

on i was in i was to eat as clean as i said

54:22

if that was possible and this is something that

54:24

bothers me so much because for you it's

54:26

has taken choose what you're eating and

54:28

like make him the commentary

54:30

foods and stuff like that

54:33

is possible for one year there

54:35

a lot of people who don't have financial resources

54:37

who don't have people helping them on the outside who don't

54:39

have any the employees and you're just like

54:41

i came over eating that fucking now scioscia and

54:43

like this one part where she acknowledges that

54:46

the cooks are doing the best they can with what they have

54:48

she's like i'm not blaming it on the women who are assigned to

54:50

cook for us like is obviously not their fault that

54:52

the food sucks but the way you're so disgusted

54:54

by the fact that people aren't focus on getting

54:56

say while they're in jail is

54:59

crazy isn't enough it seems like a lotta

55:01

people do get fit in jail she said that diet

55:03

pills or a huge contraband item

55:05

in jail why people are trying to lose

55:07

weight fast specifically fast

55:09

interest saying so in terms of drama

55:12

is as i just couldn't wait to get out of there i was

55:14

sick of all the stupid said they focus on and

55:16

it's like this is what i'm talking about are people who

55:18

are there for fifteen years this is all they have

55:20

to focus on and sore it's

55:22

goofy and it's gotta be about he gets like in the

55:24

real housewives the sand i'll the stuffy focus on

55:27

i mean she's famous

55:29

because she's focuses on focuses b shit prosecution

55:31

horror table flip that was

55:33

that an important thing to focus on it was nonsense

55:36

isn't the entire time in jail been like i'd wanna

55:38

get involved get involved rama and it's like

55:40

okay good for you have either

55:43

way she does often get involved in the drama and she often

55:45

is the center of drama m and she tells the story

55:47

she says like they were fighting and i wasn't even

55:49

in falls i just had stopped fighting and for

55:51

some reason everybody in jail thought i had started it

55:53

and i was a problems one hand a guy in

55:55

argument over what tv so to watch and i said

55:58

stop arguing you guys and then i moved if the

56:00

side of the rim because they didn't wanna be involved in the fight

56:02

and then i still got in trouble for being involved in the

56:04

fight what's up with that and it's like a fucking

56:06

she was always just being very reasonable and

56:08

trying to d escalate

56:11

the situation which as we see

56:13

from t v is very much within her personality

56:16

she also is very shocked at all the gay sex

56:18

what's happening what's happening she thought that was just

56:20

a boy thing that only boys could be gay not

56:22

girls not even shocked by the

56:24

gay sex is downright repulsed

56:27

by the fact that women are hooking up in jail i

56:29

have nothing against gay and lesbian bisexual

56:32

or transgender people i have a lot of friends who are gay i

56:34

thought caitlyn jenner on the cover of vanity fair

56:36

and that on the espy awards on t v

56:38

and thought she looked absolutely beautiful but having

56:40

sex with another woman i'm just not into that

56:43

you don't have to be other people being gay

56:45

the or even other people having gay

56:47

facts as you don't have to be into

56:49

it i love sex and all but i didn't miss enough

56:51

to find a lesbian playmate while i was there

56:53

no way that's just

56:55

not my thing i kinda don't believe her she has

56:57

this best friend tanya and she gets moved specific into her room

57:00

they have a lot of like squabbles and then end up

57:02

becoming friends again squash and the beef

57:04

i could fear being so homophobic

57:06

that she didn't hook up with their but i could also see i

57:08

can see ever being the kind of musical you could go go go down

57:10

on me but i won't go down them you yeah

57:12

i would i see references the

57:14

fact that she thinks it's inappropriate that women were hooking

57:17

up so many times at

57:19

this birth feel like it's one for one

57:21

the amount of sense he mentions how crazy does that

57:23

woman hook up and the amount of since you mentioned that she

57:25

loves her husband the way she

57:27

like i'm not saying you set up as and and

57:29

i'm dissing don't do it incentive man

57:31

and it's i were doing and son of either

57:37

she talks about other but she lived she

57:39

includes allen to suffer says but

57:41

seriously i'm kidding which we read the

57:43

unhappy of only teresa giudice had access to this

57:45

podcast and the i think should be aware me i

57:48

can i say it there's

57:50

a lot about

57:51

the you know anatomy she said it doesn't understand see

57:54

does say that she learned a lot about sex and for then

57:56

decide the fact that he hates the kind of like the happened

57:58

in prison she says he went

58:00

about the g spot ccg are not

58:02

making as your fat ass i got yeah i guess is

58:04

he so the only one get ensues assess

58:06

, assess assess she's

58:09

also facility there's another the inmates

58:11

loves her and she was a get a said about said longer

58:13

i probably would have been a leader in the present and i'm like

58:15

isotopic of us are also the inmates agree

58:18

that she shouldn't be there is no doesn't really

58:20

where she goes after everything died down died came

58:22

back at the my bunk the my roommates are all part of and part fighter

58:25

they also talk about how they'd linda's in there they

58:27

told me they have seen what happened to be on tv everybody

58:29

was mad the judge than some other afford a prison

58:31

afford nothing said dreadlocks but that's what they

58:33

do said haven't still give haven't shit about nobody

58:35

stays on nobody get you in and out of their court like

58:37

max do not believe

58:40

that in all of them very dated

58:42

all unite under the one believes that teresa

58:45

giudice did not belong bath or

58:47

like of one of us has been wrong assess

58:49

assess as a serious is a grave miscarriage

58:52

of justice and the presence in the southeast of

58:54

we must all band together to make surgeries

58:56

as you do sailors you rightfully belongs in

58:58

the world the ugliest home that she cannot

59:00

afford to live in there is a squabble

59:02

as the tv against other life i thought

59:04

i went to lunch and skip the spaghetti i was signed

59:07

ie as low carb as possible and wasn't

59:09

sure about the tomato sauce sustain

59:12

it really is unbelievable that sounded spent a

59:14

year with nothing to do but think and man

59:16

what they think about his carbs in carbs

59:19

since i hadn't a publicist at the same my moods

59:21

and had to feel paulson the media dozens

59:23

and dozens of them but everything

59:25

from the true length of my prison say to whether

59:27

or not i was on the toilet seat or not the funny

59:29

thing was they were reporting on the things that really were

59:32

happening to me like the nightly success

59:34

in my bunk is a having in our room with their partners

59:37

are those happening to you the

59:40

do the same way that financial crime

59:42

happens near her and to had

59:44

she had a really bad some unique in jail because our homes

59:46

the only clubs lean meats chicken fish and

59:49

vegetables and olive oil policy

59:51

that kind of fruits and nuts by in sale

59:53

things were not sucks to her specific she's

59:57

the dark about how her daughters

1:00:00

the going on the outside the that email

1:00:02

every single day she called him as a she could the came

1:00:04

almost every sunday to visit her even

1:00:06

as a part of my girls are being so strong and for helping their

1:00:08

little sisters get through the thrill horrible moment

1:00:11

when we had to detach from each other it seems so unnatural

1:00:13

to me a mother supposed to be with her children

1:00:15

i try to keep as the in prison because i didn't all i

1:00:17

thought about was how i suppose be home with them this

1:00:19

to me was the worst punishment a ball for something

1:00:21

i didn't even think i had done what does

1:00:23

that mean i don't want him as a law

1:00:26

book she plays by where you're like if you close your eyes

1:00:28

an issue that somebody it's not murder we're

1:00:30

not sure if you had a murder personally my

1:00:32

problem because they often until either southern behind

1:00:34

it always really upset me to see children scenes their

1:00:36

mothers and sobbing the visitors member especially

1:00:38

when any that these mothers have long sentences and so

1:00:41

many cases it just wasn't fair says other

1:00:43

she acknowledges it's not fair for anybody

1:00:46

know , is very hard to watch

1:00:48

her not understand that

1:00:50

other people have it worse than her the

1:00:52

only time she can acknowledge as you like

1:00:54

it's not fair for all of us we're all having

1:00:56

a hard time and all includes more than

1:00:58

me but also she's always like i cannot believe

1:01:00

these criminals and myself for in

1:01:02

such a horrible situation the

1:01:05

one time she acknowledges that she had

1:01:07

it easier than simple easier that management

1:01:09

as he is the commissary that she was saying she says

1:01:11

with someone and didn't have money for the commissary which

1:01:13

the why they sold inmates laundry nails

1:01:16

and hair services or that someone and

1:01:18

even sold their own bodies other inmates just make

1:01:20

enough money to buy his tonsils buy his commissary my heart

1:01:22

breaks for women that have to go down that road to survive

1:01:24

sure some people fool around in the prison for they wanted

1:01:26

make them happy if so whatever of and

1:01:28

some is driven to go to those length of desperation

1:01:31

well that makes me sad

1:01:33

turbo i think it's

1:01:35

that simple

1:01:36

the father body is against around well just to survive

1:01:38

yeah yeah that's pretty fucking sad

1:01:40

teresa has i mean the weights or is that

1:01:42

goes on fucking shopping sprees

1:01:45

at the commissary is every guess

1:01:47

he goes on to be like so lot of people could barely

1:01:49

get soap and matters other bodies anyway

1:01:51

listening my girls have many guess as i could from

1:01:53

the come here in mail commissaries have any are

1:01:55

you on his i would buy my daughter's face onto

1:01:57

the commissary to they knew that they had done that cbs

1:02:00

out of like to be involved in their lives in it made

1:02:02

me feel connected to the mail a candles my

1:02:04

mom to mail a stop to my daughter

1:02:06

is as i mean she is going fucking buck

1:02:08

wild of the commissaries see like by

1:02:10

his clothes and she of them tailored as

1:02:13

the inmates are making twelve cents an hour for work

1:02:15

that they do in the jails and the and while she's

1:02:17

like i'm buying my daughter fourteen dollar oreos

1:02:19

from the commissary this alone on tikkun olam and

1:02:21

him again by them for your friends and

1:02:23

she thinks she's doing a service by as syringae

1:02:26

her friends she's like i paid a bunch

1:02:28

of same to to get my clothes tailored

1:02:31

as nice as me i mean i guess

1:02:33

seats are heard on every week and by

1:02:35

the haired lady from on her daughter's com

1:02:37

so that her makeup done she has an inmate do

1:02:40

her make up just as a socialist sorting

1:02:42

out that he says he does and she says

1:02:44

a yoga every day and it helps calm down

1:02:46

and his they're breathing techniques i gotta through tough times she

1:02:49

became the leader of the group it's also the

1:02:51

to help other women out motivate myself the same

1:02:53

time i like eating so much they want to get certified

1:02:55

in yoga and start a lot of the other clothes and guess

1:02:57

i love that i love yoga for like give me

1:02:59

seriously so much they can lead us are making money off

1:03:01

of that i really think there's a business deal

1:03:03

in this thing that has given his own spiritual clarity

1:03:06

the united how that my body was tightening up and

1:03:08

getting the nine stand and he pays

1:03:11

in commissary goods for bachelor massage

1:03:13

as them some other women who are misuses

1:03:15

the women all the lookout for each other they're not all of them

1:03:17

but when you go in there there are gonna

1:03:20

be women who come in help you out and some of them

1:03:22

are doing is that you pay them off later but she did make a

1:03:24

lot of good friends that she did have a lot of people did some very fine

1:03:26

thanks for her and she talks about how when people

1:03:28

leave their with throw them a good by a party

1:03:30

and they do their best to celebrate the little moments and

1:03:33

at the people who leave will leave behind their commissaries

1:03:35

for the person after them so that everyone can

1:03:37

have a little bit more as that when i left i went

1:03:39

to pack up all the books that meant them us to me and i'm like

1:03:41

leaves the book three so you can get some on

1:03:43

the outside the see talking about one of her

1:03:46

at romance or her been made since

1:03:48

he says she's always eating in the room

1:03:50

or on her band i got reprimanded when i

1:03:52

saw my room when i first thought they are not knowing

1:03:54

the rules but she got to the same day i did the she

1:03:56

knew the rules she honestly felt that the rules

1:03:58

and have had a hershey as it and

1:03:59

i don't for whatever reason i just

1:04:02

really loved teresa calling someone else there

1:04:04

are being inside all day the maritime

1:04:06

to hear more and more tablet story is that show

1:04:08

a tsunami with different women looked at as both

1:04:11

matters that these phone records were literally friends of

1:04:13

friends of show and out with a guy front of his

1:04:15

girlfriend the paparazzi but saw the photos and was only

1:04:17

john the girl appeared it is that across the table

1:04:19

or next will women at a restaurant he was friends with his

1:04:21

friend they said he was cheating if he posed for a

1:04:23

picture with a woman they said he was unfaithful multimedia

1:04:25

thrive amateur with a woman and a source

1:04:28

that he was having sex with her because he absolutely

1:04:30

sitting behind her and officials taken and also

1:04:32

to say no to having a picture taken with any female

1:04:34

that he was like iowa say no be an asshole

1:04:36

that's himself as an easy going

1:04:38

good guy who doesn't want to be a jerk but

1:04:41

there were some and evil people other he just wanted

1:04:43

to nail him anywhere they could i hated that

1:04:45

so much i hated that era was trying to

1:04:47

nail him and he just kept getting

1:04:49

nailed see nails them they

1:04:51

nailed him ever with nailing each other

1:04:54

but , serious us she's not day never

1:04:57

on b c says he got moved and she

1:04:59

got a bottom bunk and she was dating

1:05:01

her lucky stars i did not need

1:05:03

a birds eye view of the other inmates having sex

1:05:05

with each other because you thought

1:05:07

you'd series other abolished guess

1:05:09

at a press and abolished goes home she's with our girls

1:05:12

as i sat there thinking about the past year one

1:05:14

thing that the kimmel year clear to me with kimmel had sometimes let

1:05:16

negativity club members and during some of the most dramatic

1:05:18

things that it happens when the past six years and

1:05:20

that's not who i am and my heart of hearts i'm of

1:05:22

positive person i always have them the

1:05:24

was imprisoned or less idea to reach way down

1:05:26

and find that sunny spare that always look for the glass is

1:05:29

half full and v the world the does as this

1:05:31

is that it that way people will never experience

1:05:33

assists and sometimes think it's like a free ride

1:05:35

that undeserving people get shelter and food

1:05:37

at the expense of taxpayers after having

1:05:40

seen and heard the incredibly moving and difficult

1:05:42

sorry this my fellow inmates and experiencing

1:05:44

just with the food and other consists of i cannot

1:05:46

justify that way of thinking you

1:05:49

think that i thought that you have been highlighted

1:05:51

a my everly said or that i really years are huddled up

1:05:53

being friends with eric some yeah yeah shows

1:05:55

that are some businesses and she's ever met her life

1:05:58

she met him during a so the apprentice either the

1:05:59

that's really reflects on the tip of people you

1:06:02

now because this is our thoughts are thinking that anybody

1:06:04

i know the else i wish we could abolish

1:06:06

the president because i'm sick of people fucking writing

1:06:08

off the final

1:06:11

the amount all we all about

1:06:13

the presence she says she got

1:06:15

attacks that was i have to say as an outsider

1:06:18

an outsider i can find the love you you have for each other about

1:06:20

her and you see champ inspirational

1:06:22

like the movie the notebook you know in the notebook when

1:06:24

they both goods ssssss very

1:06:27

, nowadays the same by you shudder through it all

1:06:29

they do get divorced the media is it

1:06:31

is sheila irregardless seconds me chills

1:06:34

the zone i do have a special more than

1:06:36

special we have known each other our whole lives and whole been

1:06:38

through some us together we're raising for beautiful daughters the other

1:06:40

despite then we are so black as

1:06:42

you probably get sow and then he goes then she

1:06:44

learns nothing sega said

1:06:47

she wanted planes sometimes they had a plane on

1:06:49

tested jail and see how to play for nine minutes

1:06:51

she was fucking rock hard there's

1:06:54

a he does it in there for other people out

1:06:56

there who want to see me on this and suffer

1:06:58

while they got their wish the one lesson

1:07:01

she almost kind of learns is

1:07:03

that she said end be loosey

1:07:05

goosey with people's relationships in jail

1:07:07

so tanya her roommates houses

1:07:09

something about another girl another

1:07:12

girl needs someone that teresa new back home to

1:07:14

recent months into the presence in the back home who mentioned

1:07:16

it to the other girl is not a sorry i

1:07:19

could follow i said i'm sorry for god

1:07:21

and for teresa i can't physically

1:07:23

the one thing three the learned is that

1:07:25

once teresa leaves sale

1:07:27

the other people will still be there so she

1:07:29

shouldn't be playing salah found

1:07:32

in a way that will affect them open

1:07:34

seas saw an he

1:07:36

ruined the relationship between two people

1:07:38

in their ability to like and still be in there together

1:07:40

even though she's leaving and she shouldn't have done

1:07:43

that i don't think she's still fully

1:07:45

understands that jail will continue to

1:07:47

exist after she's gone but that was like the one time

1:07:49

she so the glimmer as

1:07:51

acknowledgement that

1:07:53

the her dad never went to go see

1:07:55

her when she was in jail because he couldn't bear to see her

1:07:57

that way and so then she gets home

1:07:59

they have this day cooper union smuggled

1:08:01

still didn't understand my had to go to prison neither

1:08:04

do i maybe god want

1:08:06

to me to have some time to step back to some

1:08:08

thinking heal and evaluate everything around me

1:08:10

because it's all become sort of control chaotic i

1:08:12

mean look for ends up maybe he wanted

1:08:14

me to clean house and surface maybe

1:08:17

i can't imagine anybody who has

1:08:19

learned last see also because they have to

1:08:22

and dang so this book they have is really

1:08:24

funny false ending that

1:08:26

then there's another chapter and it's the worst written

1:08:28

garbled biggest as i sat

1:08:30

there thinking about would it be like when like got home

1:08:32

i stared up at the big finish this book

1:08:34

literally in the car from car prison to the house

1:08:37

so she was sending the email on email rights as

1:08:39

as other thing about what it would be like when like got home i

1:08:41

stared of that big beautiful blue sky above

1:08:43

me the funny thing about the sky and sky sun

1:08:45

and stars as if they all look they same no matter where

1:08:48

you are whether you are in prison or at home even

1:08:50

though i've been away for the people i love most any that

1:08:52

wherever they were that moment they could see could same last guy

1:08:54

i did we are always together in our hearts

1:08:56

after all it's where we belong

1:08:59

he belong in your own hi fucking

1:09:02

talking about

1:09:03

i'm never in this kind of are

1:09:05

softer about loki second to last saturday

1:09:08

she's talking about hustle always remember

1:09:10

the people that he met there and her time there she says

1:09:13

because he never lived at college she on associates

1:09:15

degree from a local school said he never lived

1:09:17

in a dorm she's of this is like the closest

1:09:19

to that we're going to get to the dorm experience and

1:09:21

she said we did a lot of complaining in their the

1:09:23

but at least he had he totally non of course i say

1:09:25

this with a grain of salt i've never forgotten that some of the

1:09:27

women were hard core criminals

1:09:28

who would sell their mother for a dollar if they say

1:09:31

that but not my friends they were good people

1:09:33

and the lack of compassion or anything empathy

1:09:36

it's really it it's something to behold

1:09:38

neither mired in the best shape of my life can

1:09:41

see some of bolland the back seat of the cars

1:09:44

to avoid the paparazzi was not fun

1:09:46

that plank bed soon i guy as we

1:09:48

can i say one other part and them will get our final

1:09:51

thoughts that is he compares herds

1:09:53

rise from the sale back to her

1:09:55

house every name with her family so the

1:09:57

were consider that from jail and they has i

1:10:00

think charity team with them to help divert

1:10:02

the paparazzi see competitive princess

1:10:04

diana being chased by the pop brought see it to

1:10:06

death since to see

1:10:09

his and his think a lot of people would agree the

1:10:11

princess diana of our time i

1:10:13

think she's like the princess diana have made

1:10:15

there

1:10:17

my final sides i that

1:10:19

this bug was upsetting to me it's

1:10:21

i found it really sad the way

1:10:24

that she can't believe the way

1:10:26

it she's been mistreated in this world

1:10:28

she went from living in a gorgeous manson

1:10:31

that she'd essentially you don't say they are it says

1:10:33

not in front of me see learn from living and go

1:10:35

against miss at

1:10:38

good and i'll give you that how

1:10:41

did sees though to

1:10:45

be sad that life and it's she's

1:10:47

like why can't i just v ret snow

1:10:49

on the let me to be read all the time

1:10:51

and that's not fair thought

1:10:54

it was really hard for me to read man i just i

1:10:56

can't wait to get over it unlike it's and amidst

1:10:58

and to get out of this conversation teresa

1:11:00

you saw i can be to figure

1:11:02

out exactly she said on the beach on the sleek meet

1:11:05

him about her wedding was like that earth insane or talk

1:11:07

about some saw them but all those little criminals

1:11:09

out criminals fun fact is that when joe

1:11:11

judy say it went and did his time another

1:11:14

one of the how size the husband for their oh

1:11:16

yes there with apollo nida his from the real housewives

1:11:18

of atlanta they're both they're ring summit for deck

1:11:21

a very very thin line

1:11:24

the came people who are willing

1:11:26

to go on a reality tv show the

1:11:29

about being rich

1:11:31

and people who are just criminals

1:11:34

yeah the people who believes you whatever it takes

1:11:36

to be read other than need people to know

1:11:38

that they did get reds yeah which

1:11:40

is not actually a guy that way

1:11:42

to live your life if you're rich in a way that

1:11:45

we should note hey

1:11:47

you guys we love you so freaking much

1:11:50

as much as i didn't like teresa like hope he does

1:11:52

have does have way can i have he has a great week

1:11:54

yeah on the wormhole said us our

1:11:57

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1:11:59

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he had some i am absolutely

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at something at the bed fair review

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the fall think he'll

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let market size

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letter burn this of us are

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beautiful it turns into you

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paris dollars i

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am so fucking thrilled

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for years success any your analyze

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it was only part i like swatting thing

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keyless avoid listen

1:13:15

i avoid a lot but not this of you think

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it's too early ninety

1:13:19

eight i would love to flow my arms around

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you and give you a friggin had think

1:13:24

he'd somali it's a wind i

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would love to doubling back at you at that siblings

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baby thinks astley worm

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you are probably the best

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for him in the world because if i honestly

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here here nicole as he

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