This podcast includes the conversations made between two Melbourne (Naarm) based artists, Ashley Perry and Siying Zhou on the topics about artists and economy. It is made for developing a project for Hyphenated Biennial in 2021.

This podcast would like to acknowledge that we are in Kulin nation. It would like to pay respect to the Elders both past, present and emerging of the Boonwurrung and Wurundjeri peoples of the Kulin Nation and extend that respect to the country you are listening in from and to all Indigenous Peoples.