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Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production
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of I Heart Radio. The
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senior Senator from Arizona
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should resign if
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her goal is to challenge Tulsei Gabbard
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for the role of Tulsei Gabbard. Get
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moving. In the event of a resignation,
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the governor of Arizona is obligated to a point
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somebody from the party of the ex senator in
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question. So get moving, get
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out, get a real Democrat
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on the job, get a real senator on the job,
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get a real American on the job, and
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get that show on Fox News channel
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you want, or news Max or Fascism.
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Today, Kirsten
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Cinema still lists herself as
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a Democrat. I do not know
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why Kirsten Cinemas
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still claims to represent Arizona. Again. I
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do not know why Kirsten
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Cinema still insists she is dedicated
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to bipartisan solutions. Again,
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I do not know why she might as well be
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a Republican now, Kirsten
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Cinema still maintains she is a member
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of an advocate for the lgbt
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Q community. Again, I do not know
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why she is standing aside as
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Republicans move to erase lgbt
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Q rights, her own rights. Kirsten
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Cinema still maintains she respects
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and protects the Senate, and again,
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I do not know why she
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is siding with those who would dismantle
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democracy. The Senator
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has not conducted a town hall in Ariansona
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since being elected to the Senate, but now
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she has managed to find the time to
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speak at what amounts to a campaign event
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for the upcoming midterms, a campaign
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event for Mitch McConnell and the Republicans
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and against the Democratic Party, at
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which she predicted the Democrats will lose
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the House, at which she trashed
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the party that got her elected. And
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she did this at the McConnell's
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Center at the University of Louisville, named
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for the most caliving and destructive
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Republican in history who is not named
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Donald Trump. Despite
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our apparent differences, Senator
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Cinema said, Senator McConnell and
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I have forged a friendship, one
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that is rooted in our commonalities,
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including our respect for the Senate
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as an institution. Kirsten,
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you know god damned well that
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six years ago it was McConnell who
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made up out of thin air with utter
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disrespect both for the Senate and the
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concept of democracy, a rule that
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somehow permitted him to filibuster
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against even holding a hearing
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for a potential Supreme Court justice
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nominated by a democratic president.
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And he followed up this extra legal,
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extra constitutional perfidy
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by quite literally stealing that Supreme
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Court seat for his own political
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party and his political party's only
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goal, only aspiration, only
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policy, only purpose power.
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It was an utter, shameless, fatal
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assassination of the Senate of
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bi partisanship, of everything the
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country is meant to be and everything
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you give lip service to, and
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its replacement by brute political
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force. And Kirsten, you went to
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Louisville and kissed this disgusting
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scumbag McConnell's ass
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and invalidating him. You
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have become an accessory
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after the fact to the elimination
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of Roe v. Wade. So, not only
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am I committed to the sixty vote threshold,
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I have an incredibly unpopular view. I
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actually think we should restore the sixty vote
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threshold. For the areas in which it
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has been eliminated already, we should
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restore it. YEA. Not
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everyone likes that the
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sixty vote threshold to confirm
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a nominee to the Supreme Court. Kirsten
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was eliminated by Mitch
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McConnell in two thousand seventeen.
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McConnell has carefully and with excellent
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precision eliminated all those instances
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in which a sixty vote threshold would
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thwart the political aims of the
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party representing the minority in this country,
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the Republicans, while preserving
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the sixty vote threshold for use when
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it would thwart the party representing the majority
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in this country, the Democrats. And he has
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done so with your help,
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with your blind, arrogant,
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condescending collaboration with
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an enemy of this democracy.
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Moreover, Mitch McConnell has
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repeatedly vetoed the actions
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of the Democratic House, and
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you have the nerve to
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applaud him. When Republicans
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are in control, they passed a little bit of crazy legislation.
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And when the Democrats are in control, they
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pass a little bit of crazy legislation. And
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the job of the Senate is
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to cool that passion. Oh, everybody
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in Washington is just so crazy.
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During your time in the Senate,
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the Senate has confirmed three
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Supreme Court justices who lied about
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overturning Roe v. Wade to the Senate,
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and then overturned Roe V. Wade. During
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your time in the Senate, one
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of its senior members has introduced legislation
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to limit abortions nationally, and
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others have pronounced their willingness to legislate
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against same sex marriage and even
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interracial marriage. During your
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time in the Senate, it has twice acquitted
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the most treacherous and anti democratic
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leader in the history of democracy
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in impeachment votes. During
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your time in the Senate, many of
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its members sided with an attempt
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to overturn the presidential election
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by subterfuge or violence
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or both. During your time
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in the Senate, an actual palace
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coup was attempted against the United
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States of a America for the first time
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in its history. But go on, Kirsten,
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tell me more about how the Democrats
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pass a little bit of crazy legislation,
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but you and the Senate are there
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to cool that passion. So
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why in recent years does
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it seem like partisanship has gotten worse
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and worse in Washington?
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Our politics have become increasingly
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radicalized, spiraling steadily
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downward into bitter and tribal
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extremism. Cable
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news pundits, outside groups,
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and some political leaders on both sides of the
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aisle have led the loudest and
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most extreme voices in each
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party dominate the discourse
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and set the agenda because it stokes
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anger and it gets tweets, views,
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clicks, but it doesn't
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solve problems. The nerve
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the goal who
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radicalized our politics,
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Kirsten, who lead
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the spiral into tribal extremism
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and an attempt to sack the US capital
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and hang the Vice president the President
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of the Senate. That you're a member of the
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Democrats, you referred to as they
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did they do that? Are you
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going to try to both sides?
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January six, Really,
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the danger of elimiting the sixty vote threshold
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is that the Senate becomes the House. And I
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remind everyone I I left the House and ran for the
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Senate for a reason. That
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reason, Kirsten, as we
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both know, was personal ambition.
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Twenty years ago, you wrote a letter published by
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the Arizona Republic quote, until
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the average American realizes that capitalism
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damages her livelihood while augmenting
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the livelihoods of the wealthy, the
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almighty dollar will continue to
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rule. But last month,
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as your price for voting for the Inflation
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Reduction Act, you personally detected
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a tax loophole that means millions
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for private equity executives, law
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firm partners, and hedge fund
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managers, or as you might call them,
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ordinary everyday Americans.
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But the best thing you can do for your child is to not give
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them everything they want, right and
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that's important to the United States Senate as well.
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We shouldn't get everything we want in
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the moment, Kirsten, what
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the hell does that mean? This
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is the opportune moment for me to explain
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what the hell I mean? Why I have been addressing
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a senior senator from Arizona, not by
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her title, but by her first name. I
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believe I was the first broadcaster
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to put Kirsten Cinema on national television
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when she was in local politics in Arizona,
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and from that grew a friendship that lasted
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for nearly eight years. We even
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dated briefly, not while she
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was a guest on my shows, but long enough that
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twice I took her to the Broadway show
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Book of Mormon, and as a real life
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X Mormon, she was delighted to go backstage
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and meet the cast and complement one of the producers
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on the exactitude of the recreation
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of Mormons Sunday School stories,
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and we stood in front of the theater late into
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the night, talking politics with many of
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the actors and stage staff. And in
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that crowd, me and a bunch
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of Broadway performers whose livelihoods
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consisted of savaging a religion
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every night. In that crowd, Kirsten
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Cinema was hands down the
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most liberal, the most
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progressive, the
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most to hell with them
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of all of us, and the
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most intelligent, not
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even close. And in
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that crowd she proudly proclaimed to
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us not only what she had publicly revealed
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previously about her personal life, but
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also that she was utterly opposed to monogamous
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relationships and thus, as she termed
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it, breeding like members
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of her family had. So you will excuse
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me if in this sea of her disingenuo
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was condescending phony piety.
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That remark that jumps out at me as the
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most disingenuously condescending
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and the most phonally pious is
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telling anybody what is the best thing they
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can do for their child. I
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am going to say something now, and I
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do not expect it will be widely believed.
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There is no personal animus
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here. She and I did not
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stop dating because of some discord.
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We continued to go to events together as
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late as a year after the last date.
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Kirsten Cinema and I texted for
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six years after our last date.
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Half of the text were about politics and who was gonna
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stop Trump. Half were her trying to set me
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up with women she had dated, or her asking
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if my latest girlfriend was hot. We
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were close enough that in two thousand and ten it
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had been Kirsten Cinema who asked me
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to make late donations in literally the closing
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days of the campaigns of Gabby
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Gifford's and Raoul Grijalva and
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Jack Conway, after my coverage
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of them for MSNBC had ended
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because each of them had been swamped with
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death threats and they had to spend
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double their planned budgets on security.
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And those donations led to NBC's
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unsuccessful attempt to suspend
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me, even though my contract gave me the
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right to make the donation's. Ultimately
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it led to my decision to leave MSNBC
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in January two thousand and eleven,
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when I took countdown to Current TV. Kirsten
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remained enough of a friend that she went with
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me as a regular guest when
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in private moments she speculated about
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running for presidents someday. I encouraged
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her. Her perspective,
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her resume, her ardor for change
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and for justice seemed to offer
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hope in a century from which it has
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rapidly drained. There
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really is no personal
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animus here, maybe
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deep confused
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disappointment. For
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years I would not violate my own
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vow of privacy about private
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lives, mine
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or hers. She asked
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me to be her data at a Young Progressives event
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in Washington in two thousand and ten, and
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a day after I said yes, I
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walked her through the ethical problems with it and the
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publicity possibilities, so we skipped
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it. I didn't even publicly acknowledge
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that we were friends until two thousand seventeen
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or two thousand eighteen. That's
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when I felt my comments required some admission
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of a personal relationship. And
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as Kirsten Cinema's performance in the Senate,
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her performance as a Democrat, her
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performance as an American has gotten
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more and more nightmarish, I have
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felt that more and more information needed to be revealed,
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and I have done so now, even if it meant some tweaking
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on social media as a result, and
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there are other things to say about my friendship
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and my relationship with Kirsten Cinema. Try
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as I might, and I have tried four months, and
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I have tried four years, I have not convinced
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myself that it is right to say any of them.
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I just know that the Kirsten Cinema
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act life as the most liberal
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of liberals, a self proclaimed prodest
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socialist, the trip from the Green Party
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to the blue Dog Democrats is
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only that an act.
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It is two or three years now since I got
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tired of the act of her condescension,
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piety, and her performance art. That
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I got tired of her fraudulence and her hypocrisy,
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That I got tired of her fealty to the moneyed
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interests. That I got tired of her portrayal
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of the voiceless people she once spoke
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for but has now insulted. That I
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got tired of the fact that from genuine
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liberality in the finest sense of
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the word, and personal intelligence
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that earned the description of brilliance,
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she has deteriorated into
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just another politician available
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for sale to the highest bidder, and worst
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of all, someone who has irretrievably
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signed away her principles in
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order to join the vast media
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political complay the industry
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that is government in which there is only
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process, not policy, and
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never people. I wrote it on
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Twitter yesterday and I repeat it here.
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This is the perfect solution, sadly,
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for the nightmare that is Kirsten Cinema
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in the US Senate, best friend
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of Mitch freaking McConnell.
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She should resign as the senior
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Senator from Arizona and take
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over as the host of
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Meet the Press, still
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ahead on countdown. You do not want to be Mark Meadows
14:47
right now, nor Liz trusts
14:49
about whom they are asking which British
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prime minister had the shortest tenure, not
14:54
counting her judge,
14:57
not less she be judged. The home run
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watch continues to paraphrase
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the serious TV commercial for Brett Farves
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radio show. It's Burst Brett's
15:06
Bubble time. They have shelved his program
15:08
because of that scandal. And in worse
15:11
persons, how could you become a U
15:13
S Senator and not know the correct answer
15:15
to the following question what
15:17
is the most common way? One refers
15:19
to the day that terrorists
15:21
attacked the Pentagon and the World Trade
15:24
Center, A sitting United
15:26
States Senator has
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gotten it wrong. That's
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next. This discountdown. This
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is Countdown with Keith Olberman
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still ahead on Countdown. Yes. In two thousand
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nine, MSNBC almost went off
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the air. They almost replaced all
15:51
of us with reruns of Lock
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Up for Why, because
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the chairman of the world's six largest
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corporations said, so, that's why
16:01
things I promised not to tell. Coming up first.
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up Aaron Judge watch continues,
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which would tell you what happened last night in the Yankee
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game and the senator who doesn't
17:10
know it was called nine eleven.
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First postscripts to the news, some headlines, some
17:15
commentary, some snark. Dateline
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Washington. Former January sixth
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Committee advisor Denver Riggleman
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says the texts of former Trump Chief
17:29
of Staff Mark Meadows and the text
17:32
to Meadows are the crown jewels
17:34
of the investigation that Meadows received
17:37
texts from thirty nine different
17:39
House members and from five U. S.
17:41
Senators between November and
17:43
the inauguration of President Biden. CNN
17:46
reports Meadows also got one text
17:48
at least from Phil Waldron, one
17:50
of the voter fraud conspiracy nuts,
17:53
and NBC News says oathkeeper
17:55
and Oathkeeper Attorney Kelly Sorell
17:58
texted White House Legacy hire
18:00
Andrew Giuliani and also tried to
18:02
text the White House itself but
18:04
sent that text to the White House switchboard.
18:09
Another super genius
18:11
dateline London. The new fiscal policies
18:14
of the new UK Prime Minister Liz Trust
18:16
they're not exactly going over well with
18:18
the pound crashing and such. A new you
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gov poll for the Times of London shows
18:23
the opposition Labor Party with a seventeen
18:26
point lead over the ruling
18:28
Conservatives. That's the biggest margin in the poll's
18:31
history, if you're wondering. The
18:33
shortest tenure ever for British Prime
18:35
Minister was of George Canning
18:38
hundred nineteen days on the job in eighteen
18:40
twenty seven, with a pretty good explanation he
18:43
died. Prime Minister Trust
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has been in office for twenty three days. Ten
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of those were essentially days off because
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of mourning for Queen Elizabeth and Dateline
18:52
McKinney. Texas, in an AFFIDAVI
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had filed late yesterday, a process server
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informs the court that he went to the home
18:59
of Texas Attorney General Kent Paxton
19:01
to give him a subpoena for a federal court
19:03
hearing today in a lawsuit by
19:06
nonprofit groups who want the State of Texas
19:08
to pay for out of state abortions.
19:10
In the filing, server Anesto Martine
19:13
Herrera, reports that as he got to Paxton's
19:15
home, the Attorney General fled
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in a truck with his wife
19:22
at the wheel. Everything is
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bigger in Texas, especially
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the Cowards. This
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is Sports Center, Wait,
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check that not anymore.
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This is countdown
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with Keith in Sports
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to on two out, top of the tenth,
19:54
Aaron Judge do up, still at sixty home
19:56
runs for the season. Rookie Toronto manager
19:58
John Schneider still try to lock in a wild
20:01
card berth for his team. Orders
20:03
Judge intentionally walked and the home
20:05
crowd at Toronto's Rogers Center bowed.
20:08
The next batter grounded out, and then the Blue Jays
20:10
wanted at the bottom of the tenth three to two,
20:12
and Judges still at sixty home runs.
20:15
He has nine games to get sixty one
20:17
or sixty two or more if you are
20:19
wondering when he hit sixty one homers
20:21
in Roger Maris
20:23
of the Yankees was walked intentionally. Well,
20:26
he wasn't, not once all
20:29
year, largely because roughly
20:31
six hundred times that year the
20:33
man batting behind him was
20:35
Mickey Mantle. And I told you
20:37
that Brett Farve has not yet been charged,
20:39
but it may only be a matter of time. And a scandal
20:42
that saw him allegedly siphon off state
20:44
welfare money to build a
20:47
volleyball stadium for his daughter
20:49
at the University of Southern Mississippi.
20:52
Now Sirius XM Radio, which
20:54
not only has a weekly show starring Brett
20:56
Farve but features him in its TV commercials,
20:59
has put his participation in that show
21:01
quote on hold translation,
21:05
He's been suspended indefinitely. Stella
21:21
had. The message was direct. The chairman
21:23
of GE was ready to take MSNBC
21:25
off the air and fire everybody because
21:27
his mommy told him to. It
21:30
actually happened, and I'll tell you about it and things
21:32
I promised not to tell. First, the daily
21:35
roundup of the miscreants, morons and Dunning Kruger
21:37
effect specimens who constitute today's
21:40
wrist persons in the world. The
21:43
Bronze I missed one Sunday. Chuck Todd
21:46
still host of Meet the Press? Is
21:48
he? Is? He still a host of Can
21:50
we check? What's been five
21:53
minutes since we checked? Chuck
21:55
still is okay? Chuck Todd still
21:57
a host of Meet the Press permitted
21:59
Representative Nancy Mace of South Carolina
22:02
to talk about how the Republicans will take
22:04
the House and how they will then impeach
22:07
President Biden. Oddly enough, a
22:09
couple of viewers noticed that Chuck Todd
22:12
never asked a follow up question, like
22:14
just picking one out at random
22:17
for what impeaching for what? You
22:20
might very well think that the Republicans who are
22:22
willing to appear on meet the both sides press
22:24
get a deal that says no follow up questions.
22:27
You might very well think that I
22:29
could not possibly comment silver
22:32
Kevin Roberts, president of the Fascist Heritage
22:34
Foundation, doing a victory dance
22:36
after the Italian election results, quoting
22:39
his tweet, Conservatives will come to
22:41
power in Italy just weeks after Conservatives
22:43
in Sweden. One. This can be a trend.
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Conservatives everywhere need to define the choices.
22:48
What it is us versus them,
22:51
everyday people versus globalist
22:53
elites who have shown they hate
22:55
us unquote. Firstly,
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Mr Roberts, if you're going to say
23:00
quote globalist elites, just
23:03
drop the euphemism, say Jews.
23:06
What's the point of being an anti Semite
23:08
if you use euphemisms.
23:11
But secondly, Kevin Roberts has a bachelor's
23:13
in history from the University of Louisiana at
23:15
Lafayette, got a masters in history
23:17
from Virginia Tech, and a history PhD
23:20
from the University of Texas. And he was a college
23:22
president. So if the fascists divide
23:24
the world into two groups and round up
23:26
all the elites, but let the ordinary
23:29
people go. Mr Roberts, I have bad, breaking
23:31
news for you. You're not getting
23:34
let go. But our
23:36
winner, Senator Roger Marshall
23:38
of Kansas. He is a doctor.
23:41
And George Carlin's line about
23:43
the fact that mathematically it's a proven
23:46
fact that somebody somewhere in the world
23:48
has to be the world's worst doctor.
23:51
This is an actual doctor we're talking about.
23:53
He went to Kansas State then the University
23:55
of Kansas Med School. So this
23:58
is senator doctor
24:00
or doctor Senator Roger Marshall
24:03
on Fox Business Snooze. Flashing
24:06
back to that day, many of us recall
24:08
vaguely of the al Quaeda
24:10
suicide attacks, which as I
24:13
remember it, that was called nine
24:17
eleven. You know, I know that
24:19
you're familiar with nine one. One was in your backyard.
24:21
But one we lost three
24:24
thousand Americans, and certainly
24:26
we hold that day in reverence. But now
24:28
in America we're losing three thousand
24:30
Americans about every two or three
24:32
weeks. And what we did in response
24:35
to nine one one is declare war on terrorism
24:38
and that's what we want to do with the cartail nine
24:41
one one. Sparky,
24:44
this knit wit not only thinks you go
24:46
digit by digit on all dates,
24:49
especially that one, but he's also
24:51
apparently never heard anybody else
24:54
say it allowed, never heard
24:56
anybody say nine eleven,
24:58
never heard it anywhere here in America.
25:03
Well, right, let's be fair. Maybe
25:05
he was just having a bad interview. Maybe
25:07
he was distracted by being on the
25:10
network that stars Maria Barbaromo's
25:12
sibilant s No,
25:15
not really. Here's Mr Senator Dr
25:17
Marshall moments later on News Max. I
25:19
want to take your listeners back to when
25:22
three thousand Americans died and
25:25
we declared war on those terrorists.
25:28
Nine one one. I mean, even for a Republican
25:31
from Kansas, this is idiotic.
25:33
Also, if it's nine one, should the number
25:35
of dead be three O
25:37
O? I mean they let
25:39
this man deliver babies. Okay,
25:43
ma'am, the b abby
25:45
is ready to be birthed.
25:48
Open your mouth wide. Mr
25:51
Senator Dr Roger, Never
25:54
remember nine one one, No way,
25:56
it was never never forget, never
25:59
remember never never something
26:02
one here in a may Ka
26:05
Marshal Today's
26:08
worst person, Hello
26:11
world, to
26:31
the number one story on the countdown on my favorite
26:33
topic me and this is not the
26:35
anniversary of this event, but I was reminded of
26:37
it over the weekend, So here goes. Often
26:40
it happens in television that there are
26:42
events so traumatic that the cliche
26:45
about your life flashing before your eyes
26:47
does not apply, but an equally
26:50
hackneyed one about your career flashing
26:52
before your eyes might. The
26:54
executive producer of our MSNBC
26:57
newscast Countdown, Isy Povich, and
26:59
I were on the grown up elevator to
27:01
the office of NBC President Jeff Zucker
27:04
on the the second floor of thirty Rock
27:06
in New York, Summoned there by some
27:08
garbled message from MSNBC president
27:10
Phil Griffin about MSNBC
27:13
being taken off the air, I
27:16
was mumbling to Izzy, Sundry imprecations
27:18
and reminiscences, eight freaking
27:21
months is we spent twelve freaking
27:23
months forcing them to create meadows showed
27:25
last eight months, all the crap
27:28
prompter practice, getting her over her fears,
27:30
Rockets passed CNN only eight months
27:33
of show, and now it's all gone. Izzy
27:36
reminded me it was not just Rachel's show that was
27:38
threatened, which was why poor Court
27:41
Harson from Hardball was already upstairs,
27:43
along with poor Ed Schultz and
27:46
Phil Griffin at Rachel's executive
27:48
producer Bill Wolf, and some clown from Morning
27:50
Joe, and a couple of other MSNBC executives
27:52
and us. I know, I
27:55
know, I did the line from the drunken
27:57
Irishman from Hitchcock's The Birds, complete
28:00
with the bad accent. It's the end of the
28:02
world, I
28:04
said, f Emil is going to take MSNBC
28:06
off the air. I didn't
28:08
need any of my overwrought visions from two
28:10
years earlier of the future of liberal news
28:13
commentary falling out the NBC
28:15
window to its death on the rink. This
28:17
was the real thing. The chairman
28:19
of General Electric was threatening
28:22
to open the window himself, throw
28:24
us out the window himself, and then
28:26
race down to the pavement to stomp
28:29
on our dying remains himself.
28:32
Poor Ed Schultz heard Jeff Zucker
28:34
say those words, and he had screwed
28:37
up his face and tilted his head like a
28:39
puppy hearing a car crash.
28:41
He had not believed at the first time. He
28:43
had not believed at the second time. Zucker
28:46
said it a third time. Immelt is going to
28:48
take MSNBC off the fffing air at,
28:51
Schultz groaned. After weeks
28:53
of Griffin's coaxing, he had finally just
28:56
moved from Nebraska to New York
28:58
the preceding weekend, yet
29:01
he was still, somehow only the second most strung
29:03
out person in the room. You, Zucker
29:06
shouted at me, You're the smartest one in the
29:08
room. What the f do we do
29:10
now? I'll confess
29:12
I was shaken by this because it appeared for once
29:15
that Zucker was not being sarcastic. I
29:17
had never before seen him flush nor
29:20
flustered. This was a guy who wore fleece
29:22
in July. Now he was
29:25
beat red and sweating. Sometimes
29:27
he knew what he was doing, and, as his opposition
29:30
to hiring Meadow had proved, sometimes
29:32
he didn't know what he was doing. But he always
29:34
acted as the most confident man in
29:36
the galaxy. But now he literally
29:39
had no clue what to do next. And he not
29:41
only could not ignore my advice, he
29:43
desperately needed it. This situation
29:46
and that color on his face were almost
29:48
worth watching the corporate fascists
29:51
knuke my network. I
29:53
asked Zucker to explain what happened? You, God,
29:56
Dad, well know what happened. Zucker
29:58
moved towards me, and I stood up and I told him I
30:00
would see myself out. He stopped,
30:03
remembering that he did indeed, at we need my help.
30:06
I'm sorry, I apologize. This isn't rational,
30:08
this is this is I melt Last
30:11
week sometime Bill O'Reilly snapped. He
30:13
told Murdach he wasn't gonna take any more of what you
30:15
were saying about him on the air. So he did a
30:17
piece last night accusing GE
30:19
of manufacturing the components
30:21
that been used in roadside bombs
30:24
that were built in a rand to kill Americans
30:26
in Iraq, which is which is true
30:28
legally, that's legally true. They found roadside
30:30
bombs that had like thirty year old
30:33
GE transistors or or TV
30:35
tubes from nineteen fifty four or is something
30:37
in them? Legally, g E did
30:39
manufacture components that were used in roadside
30:42
bombs that were built in a rand to kill Americans
30:44
in Iraq. So O'Reilly puts this on
30:46
his fffing show as a lead story, and
30:49
then Fox sent two camera crews
30:51
in this little crap producer from Oriley
30:53
show, Jesse Water Something, to
30:56
stake Immelt out and chase him around
30:58
the GE shareholders meeting in Charlotte.
31:02
Zucker finally came up for air, and I jumped
31:04
in, why didn't m L have six
31:07
camera crews to stake out the two Fox
31:09
crews and chase them around in Charlotte? I mean,
31:11
isn't that one of our news hubs Charlotte
31:14
doesn't m L own like twenty camera crews?
31:16
There? He bring a camera crew, you'll
31:18
bring two camera crews. Zucker
31:21
started to not like me again. Now
31:23
you suggest that where were you in? All right,
31:25
never mind, it doesn't matter. mL
31:27
says. If there's one more story on Bill O'Reilly
31:30
about GE manufacturing components
31:32
for roadside bombs inter rack, he's taking
31:34
MSNBC off the air immediately.
31:37
It'll just be twenty four hours of lock up. And
31:40
I'm fired and you're fired.
31:42
And then he pointed at Chris Matthews, producer and
31:44
Matthews is fired. And he pointed at
31:46
poor Ed Shelts and you're fired, and
31:49
Ed whimpered, So smart, ask what the
31:51
f do we do? I
31:53
feigned all the nonchalance I could feign.
31:56
If I could have lit a shroot by striking
31:58
a match on the soul of my boot,
32:01
I would have. It's
32:03
manageable, But Jeff,
32:05
why is mL so worked
32:07
up about what O'Reilly said about him? Only
32:09
O'Reilly's nutjob viewers actually believe
32:11
any of that crap. Nobody had GE, nobody
32:14
investing in GE could possibly believe
32:17
we're building components for roadside
32:19
bombs. Zucker inhaled
32:22
deeply. M
32:24
L's mother believes it. All
32:27
the heads in the room turned towards the president
32:29
of NBC. Mrs m
32:31
L back in Cincinnati, is a devoted
32:34
Bill O'Reilly viewer watches
32:36
him every night, sees this, calls
32:39
him, says, Sonny, why are you manufacturing
32:41
components that were used in roadside bombs built
32:44
in Iran to kill Americans in Iraq? I
32:48
had not expected that, I
32:50
said to Zooker. So so he'll really
32:53
burn what two hundred
32:55
million a year in profits just
32:57
between Rachel and me? Because he's
32:59
mom watches Bill O'Reilly.
33:02
Zucker got angry again. You bet your being
33:04
assy will now you said it was manageable,
33:07
How how the he do we manage it? Ulverman,
33:10
just a minute? How old is she
33:13
Zooker summoned all his annoyance? How
33:15
old is who m
33:18
ELTs mother? How old
33:20
is she Jeff Zucker was
33:22
really annoyed. How they f should? I know you're
33:24
missing the point. I had
33:27
him really worked up, nearly to the boiling
33:29
point. It was great, guess,
33:32
Zucker spluttered, I don't know. He's
33:34
in his mid fifties. She's got to be eighty
33:37
nineties something. I stifled
33:39
to fake yawn. Yeah, you're
33:41
right, probably closer to ninety now that I think
33:43
of it. So the problem is she
33:46
watches O'Reilly. She tells
33:49
him what's on Fox? What O'Reilly
33:51
saying about Ge? Well,
33:53
I think you have a simple solution. I'd say the first thing
33:55
you do is you send over a couple of big guys to
33:57
her house and you pull the freaking cable
34:00
out of the wall. Zoocker
34:02
actually gasped My producer,
34:04
or is he Povich unsuccessfully stifled a laugh,
34:07
and I saw Rachel crack a smile. Zucker
34:09
regained himself. This isn't funny, Alderman,
34:13
I crossed my legs. Oh, it's a little
34:15
funny. And anyway, it's not
34:17
essential. If the problem is Email
34:19
is threatening to take the network off the air because O'Reilly
34:21
is avenging himself against me by
34:24
attacking him and attacking
34:26
ge. The short term solution is easy,
34:28
and in fact it is manageable. The
34:30
long term solution that's not easy, and
34:33
that's not manageable. But the short term one that's
34:35
simple. Rest of this week, next week,
34:37
maybe the week after that. Even we just
34:39
don't mention Fox News on
34:41
MSNBC. Something
34:44
resembling a smile crossed
34:47
Zuker's face. It made him look a
34:49
little less like a lizard person and
34:51
more like a monkey with glasses. You
34:54
do that forever?
34:57
No, not forever. I would not do
34:59
that, I said to Bias time.
35:02
Yes, but remember who was it who
35:04
was in my office last winter telling me that I
35:06
should go on the air and and just to f
35:08
with Fox? I should ask why Rupert
35:11
Murdoch was still running a huge international
35:13
media company like News Corp, despite
35:15
all the reports that he's suffering
35:17
from dementia, even though there haven't been
35:19
any reports that he's suffering from dementia. For everybody's
35:22
sake, here, who was
35:24
that again who told me to do that? Zucker's
35:27
goodwill was gone? Again? Obviously
35:29
that was me. What's your point? My
35:31
point is, we built
35:34
this new brand of ours organically on a
35:36
couple of themes. A couple of statements
35:38
of principle, and one of them is to use
35:40
your words just to f with
35:42
Fox. If we don't f
35:45
with Fox for a couple of weeks at the start
35:47
of the summer, who's gonna care. Who's gonna
35:49
notice? But like after two
35:51
weeks, three weeks, our viewers are gonna
35:54
notice, and the TV writers are
35:56
gonna notice, and then the crap will hit
35:58
from every direction. You can think of temporary
36:01
freeze on mentioning Fox, then mentioning
36:03
O'Reilly and mentioning Murdoch. Fine, permanent
36:05
freeze. Might as well let him L
36:08
turn us off in the morning. After all, I
36:11
don't think Zucker actually heard the last part
36:13
about m L turning us off. After all,
36:16
the lack of color was returning to his
36:18
face. Okay, breathe, he
36:20
kept saying to himself. Breathe, breathe,
36:23
Okay, breathe. He looked
36:25
at me and nodded. He pointed at Izzy
36:27
and at Phil Griffin and me, you and you and
36:30
you and I will we will talk tomorrow,
36:32
maybe tonight, and we'll all meet again next
36:34
week. Until then, nothing about Fox,
36:37
anybody, are we clear? Nothing on the air
36:39
about Fox. Silence
36:41
in the room, then the assorted noises
36:44
of people rising, mixed with attempts to resuscitate
36:46
poor Ed Schultz. Somebody
36:49
Matthew's guy, Harson I think, was
36:51
almost at the door out of Zooker's
36:53
office, an office so big that it was to steal the
36:55
ring Lardner line, the size of the
36:57
Yale Bowl, but with lamps.
37:00
And then a voice spoke up, quietly
37:02
but firmly. Excuse use
37:04
me. It was Rachel Maddow.
37:07
Excuse me. I will not have
37:09
the content of my show dictated by any
37:12
corporations, including the one
37:14
I work for. Remember this
37:16
is June two nine. She still felt that way
37:18
then, and especially one I don't
37:20
work for. I will walk out first. I cannot
37:23
have the audience wondering what else I have not
37:25
told them. I don't do a lot about Fox
37:27
on my show. But if there is a story about Fox, I
37:29
will not honor this freeze. I will report
37:32
that story. And if I'm prevented from reporting that
37:34
story, I will leave. Whereupon
37:36
she left, Zucker barked
37:39
Phil all Ruman, is he stay? When
37:42
the rest of the room had cleared, Zucker
37:45
blew air out of his mouth as if it were
37:47
smoke. He gestured violently
37:49
at me with his right arm. I told you she was a mistake.
37:52
You didn't listen to me. I told you. Now she's
37:54
your problem. All this is your problem. Get
37:56
her back on the reservation or else. Now
37:59
I had run out of goodwill and jokes.
38:02
Oh, I'll get her back on the reservation
38:04
and Jeff. But if you think this is my problem,
38:07
just think about what happens if he really does
38:09
take us off the air, or if it just gets
38:11
out that he threatened to take
38:13
us off the air because his
38:16
mother didn't like
38:19
what Fox said
38:21
about him. That's my
38:24
problem. Uh, that's your
38:26
problem. And it's the problem of
38:28
the CEO of the freaking sixth
38:30
largest corporation in the world, who
38:33
makes his business decisions involving
38:35
hundreds of millions of dollars of
38:37
profits based on what his
38:39
mother says. At
38:43
this point, Phil Griffin managed to pull Zooker
38:45
away and Izzy and I made for the door,
38:47
saying nothing until we were in the elevator.
38:51
Finally, she asked, what are
38:53
you going to do about Rachel? I
38:55
looked straight ahead. I have depth reception issues
38:57
while traveling forward, backwards, up
38:59
or down the If I know what I'm
39:01
gonna do, about her, but I got an idea. I
39:03
mean, the only person she was really talking to in
39:05
there was herself. This isn't a
39:08
brand new surprise success
39:10
for her anymore. This is successful.
39:12
This is what nine ten months
39:14
she's successful. She said she was
39:16
once a dancing cell phone outside
39:18
of cell phone store outside of Boston.
39:21
She ain't going back to that. I
39:23
went to talk to Rachel about an hour later and reassured
39:26
her. I mentioned that powerful as
39:28
Fox was, they were not going to be able
39:30
to re invade Iraq by themselves,
39:33
and unless she moved it way closer
39:35
than it had been, nobody would cross her censorship
39:37
line. And I said, just give me
39:40
as much time as the French government took
39:42
before fleeing during the Nazi advance
39:44
in n I said, give me, what
39:46
was it, thirty three days? Give me thirty three
39:49
days. If we aren't back where we were this
39:51
morning, we can both quit on the
39:53
air. I mean that would be fun, right.
39:56
Three nights later, well after midnight on a
39:58
Friday, my NBC issued BlackBerry
40:01
buzzed with a quick email from Rachel
40:03
Maddow. Hey, she wrote, don't
40:06
necessarily quote me because I'm really drunk,
40:09
but just make the best deal you can for us.
40:11
I trust you. We don't need to do Fox
40:13
all the time. I never do Fox stories anyway.
40:15
I just had to say that, and this is
40:17
the best platform we will ever have. Well
40:20
she was right, at least for the time being.
40:23
A couple of weeks later, I had to sneak in a script
40:25
that blasted Fox, and at ten thirty at
40:27
home that night, I got a call from a drunken
40:29
Phil Griffin shouting into the phone, I
40:32
have a family. Zucker
40:35
had to go meet with Roger Ales
40:37
secretly inside thirty
40:39
Rock, and I hope they remember
40:41
to clean the room afterwards. And m
40:43
l even had to meet with Murdoch. And
40:46
then, happily, some idiot Ge executive
40:48
decided to boast to the New York Times
40:50
about getting us little talent children
40:52
under control and a big deal with
40:55
the executives over at Fox and how they'd
40:57
settled everything, which blew up the whole deal
40:59
instantly, because the moment the deal
41:02
went public, NBC looked so
41:04
stud oupid, and even NBC News
41:06
was now risked. The
41:09
only point of the whole thing was to keep the Immates
41:11
and the Zookers and the Griffins and the Ales
41:14
is from throwing us and our little island
41:16
of liberal commentary out of
41:18
that window at thirty Rock. But
41:21
as Rachel Maddow and I would be constantly reminded
41:23
in the ensuing years, thirty
41:26
Rock has a lot of freaking
41:28
windows. I've
41:39
done all the damage I can do here. Help me out.
41:41
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