0:05

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, legal

0:14

battle rages on in a

0:16

court of law where we are finally hearing

0:19

some a tiny bit of the evidence

0:22

against husband Barry Morphew

0:24

in the disappearance of his gorgeous wife, Suzanne

0:27

Morphew, the mother of his two

0:29

daughters. We're learning all about

0:32

his visits to Ashley Madison.

0:34

You know, for married cheaters to go have

0:36

sex, celebrity jihad

0:40

sex sights. But

0:43

where does the missing

0:45

mom fit into

0:48

this scenario? And how

0:50

does a dark gun

0:53

factor in crime

1:01

Stories? With Nancy Grace, I'm

1:10

learning more about Barry Moore few than

1:12

I ever wanted to know.

1:15

I mean, Nancy Grace, this is Crime Stories.

1:17

Thank you for being with us here at Fox Nation

1:19

and Serious one eleven. But

1:22

it's details like celebrity

1:24

jihad where allegedly

1:28

jihadests post pictures

1:30

of naked celebrities. I think I've got that

1:33

right. It could be completely bass ackwards,

1:36

a dark gun, a

1:38

fake job site amidst

1:41

Mother's Day celebration. I mean, how

1:45

are we going to prove a murder with

1:47

nobody? First

1:50

of all, you've got to hear what

1:52

is happening in the courtroom. Now, why

1:55

the state the prosecutors decided to have a preliminary

1:57

hearing. I don't know. That's

2:00

a legal conundrum. A preliminary

2:02

hearing is held, for instance,

2:04

when you need to have a case bound

2:07

over for trial. But

2:10

you could just go to the grand jury, a

2:13

secret grand jury, as they are all secret,

2:16

present one or two witnesses and

2:19

get a bill of indictment from murder. But

2:22

with a prelium, you put your witnesses

2:24

on parade and

2:26

the defense gets a dry

2:29

run on cross examination. It's

2:31

like playing poker and

2:34

just laying all your cards on the table. That's

2:37

a bad idea. That said,

2:40

what have we learned? Take a listen to

2:42

Mark Salinger nine

2:45

News Denver. We're hearing details

2:47

about the days, hours and minutes

2:49

leading up to May nine, twenty

2:52

twenty, which is the last day

2:54

that the FBI says that they knew

2:56

that Susanne Moorephew was still alive.

2:58

It's all focusing the Morphew home

3:01

just outside of Salida. Now. The

3:03

FBI investigator today testified

3:05

that Susanne Morphew was at home sunbathing

3:07

and sending pictures of herself to her boyfriend

3:10

while her husband, Barry, was out of the home.

3:12

That afternoon, when Barry came home,

3:14

Susanne stopped responding to his messages.

3:16

An investigator testified that he wrote in an affidavit

3:19

that he believed Barry was chasing Susanne

3:21

around the home when he returned. That's

3:23

based on cell phone GPS data. Defense

3:26

attorneys have said that that data may not be

3:28

accurate. The defense says

3:31

the data may not be accurate.

3:33

Right, who am I going to believe Barry

3:36

Morphew and his paid hired

3:38

gun the defense lawyer or GPS

3:41

data

3:44

chasing her around the

3:48

home with me

3:50

an all star panel? Nicole Devoor

3:52

hots Globe criminal defense attorney out of Houston,

3:54

former prosecutor and you can find

3:57

her at Houston Criminal Defense

3:59

dot com. Doctor Jory Krausen,

4:02

psychologist, faculty, Saint Leo

4:04

University, author of Operations.

4:08

Dan Corsentino joining US, former police

4:11

chief in Colorado, former sheriff

4:13

and serve at the US Homeland Security.

4:15

You can find him at Dan Corsentino dot com.

4:18

Death investigator, forensics expert Joe

4:21

Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville

4:23

State University. Author of Blood

4:25

Beneath My Feet on Amazon. Laurence

4:28

Sharp joining US has been

4:30

in the courtroom. Coincidentally,

4:33

family members tell Lauren Sharf from Fox

4:35

twenty one News, you ruined

4:38

our lives. I guess they think

4:40

you've got Suzanne Morphew and your

4:42

basement. Lauren Sharf, I don't think

4:44

you're the one that ruined their lives. And Spencer

4:47

Courson, founder president of Course and Security Group

4:49

at Course in Security Group dot com and author

4:52

of The Safety Trap. First

4:54

of all, to you, Lauren Sharff. Let's

4:57

talk about the theory that

4:59

Barry Morphu comes

5:01

home, he finds his wife Susanne

5:04

morph You now missing body, never found

5:06

subbathing in the backyard, and

5:09

suddenly his GPS shows

5:12

then running around the house. What

5:14

GPS on? What on his cell

5:16

phone? Explain? Yeah,

5:19

So in the court they showed multiple

5:21

maps of where supposedly

5:24

Barry Morphu's phone pings,

5:26

and the defense was like, there's no way he

5:28

could have been, you know, running through

5:30

walls and going through and running

5:33

at forty five miles per hour. You

5:35

know. They said that his

5:37

phone pinged all around the home. And

5:40

I think this was really interesting. The FBI

5:42

agent that took the stand, agent Johnny

5:45

Grusing, he said that supposedly

5:47

his theory is that he was chasing

5:49

sus Susann around the home while

5:52

she was conscious. And I think the conscious

5:54

part is really important because they mentioned

5:57

a cap to a tranquilizer dart

6:00

that they found in the dryer. So

6:02

that's not something that happens in everyday

6:06

routine life you find part of a tranquilizer

6:08

gun in your washer and dryer. Guys,

6:11

take a listen to our friends at Fox twenty

6:13

one, I mean ninth Agent Grusing said

6:15

Susanne sent a picture of her sunbathing

6:17

to her lover, Jeff Libbler around two

6:19

pm. Her daughters were crying in

6:21

the courtroom when they saw the last known

6:23

photo of their mom alive. When

6:26

morph You arrived home, his phone was

6:28

turned on airplane mode at two

6:30

forty seven and wasn't turned back on until

6:32

after ten o'clock that night. On Mother's

6:35

Day, Susanne's phone paying for the last time

6:37

at four twenty three in the morning, when morph

6:39

You had told investigators that Susanne was

6:41

asleep when he left for Broomfield

6:43

at five. Let's talk about the whole airplane

6:45

mode fact. To you,

6:48

Dan Corcentina, Formerployees chief

6:50

in Colorado, you have to intentionally

6:55

turn your phone onto airplane

6:57

mode, that was not done

7:00

by accident, Dan Corsentino. If

7:02

the phone was in airplane mode, they

7:05

would have to look at the operating system the WES

7:07

log to see if it was in airplane

7:09

mode first of all, to make that connection, and

7:12

this would disconnect your phone from the Sallier

7:14

terrier or have it turned

7:16

off. Phone's track when they're

7:18

turned on and off. And if

7:21

there is no log of him turning

7:23

his phone off and the cell power

7:25

pains where we're

7:28

no longer going at this point

7:30

in time the phone was going,

7:33

the cell service would be able to

7:35

determine if it was manually turned off

7:38

by him. In this case, they're

7:41

stating clearly that the

7:43

west log shows or the operating

7:45

system log shows that was manually

7:47

put in airplane mode. Explain Spencer

7:50

Corson, do you agree or disagree?

7:53

I agree with half

7:55

so yes. I think what he tried to

7:57

do was turn his cell phone into airplane

8:00

mode, thinking that it wouldn't be able to ping

8:02

his location. But if the home had

8:05

WiFi, it would still be tracking

8:07

the location of that phone. And

8:09

even if he didn't realize that, when they do

8:12

the forensics on the phone, the internal

8:14

GPS coordinates would would identify

8:17

his location. So even if it was

8:19

on airplane mode and he was chasing her around

8:21

the house, the digital

8:23

forensics would show up. So Nicole

8:25

Deboard Hotschlube joining US Girl

8:28

Defense turning in Houston. Former prosecutor

8:31

Nicole, what is the state

8:33

going to argue that this

8:35

proves turning the phone onto

8:38

airplane mode? They are definitely

8:40

going to be arguing that he was making an effort

8:42

to conceal his behavior in

8:44

every way, both his location and

8:47

potentially who was around him

8:49

or near him on that phone, and in an

8:51

effort to conceal certainly it

8:54

looked like an effort to conceal guilt. Prime

9:08

Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,

9:13

we were talking about multiple

9:15

bomb shales that have blown up

9:17

in a court of law during this preliminary

9:19

hearing. All in the search as

9:22

to what happened to missing

9:25

mom Suzanne Morphy, Well, I can tell you right

9:27

now she's dead. Take a listen

9:29

to our friend Jamie Leary

9:32

at CBS four Denver. Barry arrived

9:34

home shortly after the photo was taken. An

9:36

investigators say selfhone coordinates show him moving

9:39

around sporadically outside the home.

9:41

Well Barry's defense has tried to poke holes

9:43

in the accuracy of this. Investigators

9:46

this believed that this came from Barry

9:48

chasing Susanne around the home while

9:50

she was conscious, just before killing her. The

9:53

defense team argues that this is pure speculation

9:56

and confirmed neighbors have heard no arguments

9:58

around that time that tranquilizer

10:01

darkcap was discovered in Morphu's driver

10:03

late dryer. Later May

10:06

tenth, the day Suzanne was reported missing,

10:08

Mary Morphew went to work in Broomfield and made

10:11

five garbage dumps before noon, telling

10:13

investigators the only thing he can remember

10:15

throwing away during those five garbage jumps

10:18

is tranquilizer gun materials.

10:20

Wait a minute, hold on to Laurence

10:23

Sharff, So he admits to

10:25

police that he remembers

10:27

throwing away tranquilizer materials.

10:30

Yeah, that was it. Out of the five trash

10:32

runs that he made, that

10:34

was the only thing that he could remember that

10:38

he threw away. And you

10:40

know, he also when he got

10:42

back to the morphe

10:44

home that Mother's Day, he

10:47

also told investigators that his truck

10:49

was messy. So investigators

10:52

obviously want to know exactly what he threw

10:54

away, and they haven't revealed

10:56

if they found that out or not yet in court,

10:59

neighbors hear no arguments

11:01

around this time. Tranquilizer

11:03

dart half discovered in

11:05

Morphew's dryer. Later,

11:09

I'm getting so many analogies in my mind.

11:12

I don't know if you remember, jos

11:14

Goot Morgan the Jodi Arias

11:17

case, where the

11:20

the digital camera that

11:22

Jody Arias had when she murdered

11:25

Travis Alexander was found

11:28

in the dryer. Oh yeah,

11:31

watch her and it actually had

11:33

her leg and foot an

11:36

inadvertent photo by

11:38

the dead body. And

11:40

so now this guy leaves a

11:43

tranquilizer dart half

11:46

in his dryer. How can

11:48

you explain that way and explain

11:50

what they're talking about, jo Scott Morgan a tranquilizer

11:54

dart half. Yeah,

11:57

that's I'm kind of scratching my head over it

11:59

is. Well, Nancy, you

12:02

know this is bare country where they

12:04

live, and there are bare

12:06

tranquilizers. Well

12:09

no, but I think that it's certainly

12:12

something that if he had possession of, maybe

12:15

he forgot it, maybe put it in there in

12:18

order to remove evidence, like Jody

12:20

did. You brought her up and thinking, you

12:22

know, she thought that it was going to degrade the images

12:26

that were on there. But back

12:28

to the tranquilizer itself. If this was

12:30

actually used on Suzanne,

12:33

the type that would be used, they used to use a

12:36

drug called ketamine. There's

12:38

a newer drug now. The acronym is

12:40

BAM. The word is very

12:42

The words are very, very long. I won't go into it, but

12:44

just suffice it to say it's almost like

12:46

a hypnotic, a pre anesthesia

12:50

kind of medication that they used to put

12:52

down animals safely in

12:55

order to convey them, to move them around, like,

12:58

for instance, if they're going to do surge on

13:00

an animal, like a big animal like a bear,

13:03

or you might use in a zoo to tranquilize

13:05

a tiger, that sort of thing,

13:07

to take the tiger in to do

13:10

surgery, pull teeth, that sort of thing, so

13:12

it would immobilize her. I think the key

13:14

here is would she have had

13:17

an awareness of what's going on?

13:20

And how did he get his hands on this?

13:22

If in fact that's what we're talking about,

13:25

and that's going to be key. Unfortunately,

13:27

since we don't have her body, we

13:30

can't test for toxicology anyway. Nancy,

13:33

I know that Barrymoreph you had

13:35

like a deer farm back in Indiana,

13:37

and I was told that he used a

13:39

tranquilizer to safely,

13:42

you know, either sell the deer

13:45

or move the deer around. Well,

13:47

well, what's it doing

13:49

popping up in his dryer? Is that spencer?

13:51

It was, ma'am. An interesting

13:53

thing if he's used to using tranquilizer

13:56

darts on deer, where as soon as their head

13:58

their survival instinct is to just drop

14:00

down to the ground, and he was expecting

14:03

that same If

14:05

he had that same expectation for shooting

14:08

his wife. It takes about three to four

14:10

minutes for that drug to take

14:12

effect. So she had been hit

14:14

and then tried to get away from him and was

14:17

running around the house. That may

14:19

be exactly how that scenario

14:22

played out. To doctor Jerry Crawlston joining

14:24

US psychologist Professor Saint

14:26

Leo University doctor

14:28

Jory he had

14:31

said he shot I think he said eighty

14:33

five squirrels in his backyard

14:36

the day before. But that

14:40

doesn't explain the dart gun

14:42

because a tranquilizer dart

14:45

is for a large mammal,

14:48

not for a squirrel, much less eighty

14:50

five. Wasn't it eighty five jackies?

14:53

Again? And it just reminds me Doctor

14:55

Jory of the cult Mom

14:57

Laurie Valle case where her lead

15:00

her husband says that

15:02

he shot I think he

15:04

said a possumur raccoon and

15:07

buried it and the family

15:09

pet cemetery, when actually what was buried

15:11

there all that day were

15:13

two children, Jj and Tyling. So

15:17

remember that case too. So you know

15:19

the fact that you might use a dark gun

15:21

tranquilizer on your wife. No,

15:23

you know, really strikes me on this is

15:26

he appears to be very organized

15:28

on certain things. And we had

15:30

talked about this previously about him about

15:32

the power and control, but you know that

15:35

organizational flow

15:37

that he demonstrates can become highly

15:39

disorganized when that power and control,

15:42

that rage kicks in. And just

15:44

like you know we talked about it, if he shot her with that,

15:46

Now she's running around, you know,

15:49

three or four minutes to get that into

15:51

her system before she goes down.

15:54

You know that there goes at Billy

15:57

hunting her dawn like an animal like

15:59

animal. I could just imagine

16:01

Susanne Morphy running through the home

16:04

and that was a big mansion they bought

16:06

with her money from her

16:08

family, I think Lauren Sharf, and

16:11

she's running and then slowly

16:14

drugged goes slower

16:16

and slower and slower. But there's more. Take a

16:18

listen to Russell Haythorne den Verse seven. Telematics

16:21

data from Barry's Ford truck also shows

16:23

him opening and closing doors at odd hours

16:26

the day before Suzanne disappeared,

16:28

and moving around his mountain property in

16:30

the truck. Rusing also says they found

16:32

a tranquilizer dart cap in the

16:35

dryer of the Morphuse home. The agent

16:37

wrote in the arrest affidavit that Barry

16:39

was most likely chasing Susanne around

16:41

while she was conscious, and that's why

16:43

Barry's phone pinged in different areas around

16:46

the house that evidence doesn't like. But

16:48

the defense poking holes in that theory

16:50

today in court, showing evidence that his movement

16:53

would have been impossible because the phone

16:55

would have had to move through walls and at

16:57

speeds up to forty two miles per hour

17:00

to get from one place to the next if the

17:02

cell records are correct. Mm.

17:05

I don't think the jury's going to buy that. You

17:07

know, I didn't know this, Lauren Sharff. Lauren

17:10

Sharff in the courtroom from the Get Guy joining

17:12

us in Flux twenty one, so

17:15

they could tell through what

17:17

manner that he was

17:20

opening and closing the doors to his

17:22

vehicle. Yeah, they had you

17:24

know, the GPS data from

17:26

his truck and that's what and

17:29

they explained it as far as if

17:31

you know, his break lights swent on, or

17:33

his door opening and closing,

17:35

as far as what movement he did

17:37

with the truck as well as like moving

17:40

it backwards and moving it forward, and

17:42

they gave it specific

17:44

time as when this happened.

17:47

You know, I didn't know that Spencer Courson, founder

17:50

president of Course and Security Group, that

17:53

when you open and close your doors

17:56

that's tracked. I mean I knew

17:59

that, you know, what is it called

18:01

um on Star systems

18:06

can tell where you are. It's already built

18:08

into your vehicle in newer cars, but

18:10

I didn't know that they could tell. Not that I

18:13

care whether you open or close your

18:15

doors or back up. It tracks

18:17

to that degree. Yeah, the diagnostics

18:20

on today's more modern vehicles

18:22

have a full battery of

18:26

insights and intel that sort of helped

18:29

the manufacturer to you

18:31

know, if so if you say, hey, you know the door off

18:33

the hinges, you know, and they can sell

18:35

well, no, you open this door one hundred

18:37

thousand times. That's why it fell off the hinges, so

18:39

it would kind of avoids the warranty um.

18:42

And it's just that's how your your car can

18:44

tell you, hey, that your back doors is not

18:46

closed all the way, or you know there's someone

18:48

in your If you put like a heavy you know,

18:50

back of groceries on the passenger seat, it'll tell

18:52

you that that chair needs a seatbelt. There's

18:55

a lot of things that are intended for

18:57

for our safety and our health, wealth and well

19:00

being. I can also be used

19:02

in an investigation such as this. Well,

19:05

it's almost like a black box in an airplane.

19:07

I mean very exactly, and

19:09

I mean you have a hard drive, so it's it's

19:12

recording that data and it's automatically

19:16

stored for historical

19:18

purposes. So you're absolutely right

19:21

that doubt is very similar in that I

19:23

hear you of Courcentina, but I no idea

19:26

that's somewhere my

19:29

price lord minivan, somebody

19:32

is keeping track of how many times I

19:34

opened the doors? You know what have at

19:36

it time

19:49

stories with Nancy Grace, guys

19:53

are talking about what's going down in a court

19:55

of law. In the disappearance of Susanne

19:57

more View, she didn't disappear. She's

20:00

dead, and we're learning about

20:02

a dart gun and the odd

20:04

movements of her husband around that time.

20:06

Can you imagine how powed another

20:08

technical legal term, he was. And he

20:11

gets home and finds her in the backyard

20:13

in a swimsuit, sunbathing and

20:15

sending pictures to her boyfriend. Look,

20:18

this woman had been trying to leave her husband

20:20

for a long time and he would

20:22

guilt tripper every time she

20:25

tried to leave. She says he was controlling.

20:27

There's evidence of domestic abuse where

20:29

he would hit her in the head. I

20:31

guess she did want to leave him,

20:34

but now the evidence of him tracking her like

20:36

big game through the house with a tranquilizer

20:39

dart gun. Take a listen

20:41

to Jim Benneman, CBS Ford, Denver

20:43

investigators phone part of a tranquilizer

20:45

dart inside the house of a husband accused

20:48

of murdering his wife. That's one of the new revelations

20:50

today during a two day hearing

20:52

to determine if Barrymore if you should

20:55

stand trial in Chaffee County for the

20:57

murder of Susanne Morephew Susanne

20:59

Vanner on Mother's Day of last year. Her body

21:02

has yet to be found, but investigators

21:04

believe she has been killed

21:07

and Mark Salinger, now,

21:09

I hope you're sitting down for this, Mark Shalinger

21:11

joining us from nineties. The judge also

21:13

saw surveillance pictures of Barry and Broomfield

21:16

on May tenth, that day Susanne was reported

21:18

missing. Investigators say he stopped

21:20

at five trash cans in the area and

21:23

dropped items off, though they haven't said

21:25

if they know what he threw away. They

21:28

also say he changed clothing multiple times

21:30

that day and put some of the put some

21:32

of the films that

21:34

he put in the trash camps, and they

21:36

don't yet know exactly what was in

21:38

those trash camps. Prosecutors also said

21:41

today that while they don't have evidence

21:43

Barry was having an affair, cell phone data shows

21:45

Barry searched for quote cute girls

21:47

near Salida and was on the online affair

21:50

dating website Ashley Madison, Okay,

21:52

Laurence Sheriff, I bet when you went to journalism school,

21:55

ye had no idea you would be investigating

21:58

what's the name of it, jihad? What

22:01

celebrity gihad? Yeah,

22:03

I didn't know what that was. I had to look it up.

22:06

Well, I didn't know what it was until Barry

22:08

more Few go ahead and tell us what's the good

22:10

news? Well, I guess this is like

22:13

a porn site that you can

22:15

see like nude and and videos,

22:18

nude photos and video of celebrities

22:21

that Islamic extremists

22:23

take. And

22:26

then he also Ashley Madison, I

22:28

had heard it before. Did you just say,

22:30

uh, celebrity news that jihades

22:33

take. That's what

22:35

my understanding is. Yeah, it's a it's

22:37

a satirical celebrity gossip website

22:39

which is known for sharing leaked or

22:42

hacked private videos of celebrities.

22:44

You seem to know a lot about it, Spencer Courson, I

22:47

work with a lot of celebrities or a

22:49

lot of gehada or a lot of cradots

22:51

that poses jihadest posting celebrity

22:54

news. Okay, fine, but you see some

22:56

famous celebrities head stuck on

22:58

some naked body. I just imagining.

23:01

And no, I haven't been to the site yet,

23:03

but I do know a lot about Ashley Madison.

23:05

That website seems to crop up and a

23:08

lot of criminal cases. It's a

23:10

hookup site for married people, as

23:12

my understanding of Ashley Madison.

23:15

So now we're getting to the crux

23:17

of it. He is claiming

23:19

she's having an affair, and

23:22

now we're finding out he's doing searches for quote,

23:24

cute girls near Salida.

23:27

You know what if I found on

23:29

my husband David Lynch's search

23:33

history, which is way too boring for

23:35

me to go through. I've tried it once

23:37

and my eyes were bleeding. Cute

23:40

girls near me. Oh

23:43

no, you cannot tell me,

23:45

Lauren Sharf, this is not the

23:48

pot column, the cattle black.

23:50

This guy's sleeping with somebody. I

23:52

just don't know who. I mean, it

23:55

was definitely evident that you know it

23:57

was their marriage was crumbling, and

23:59

that you know he's sending somebody.

24:02

Lauren is the woman

24:05

video chatting him up in the jail.

24:08

I mean there's seven women I think,

24:11

video chatting very

24:13

more. Fhew behind bars,

24:16

Like what they're expecting him to come

24:18

out, dress up, shower

24:20

and shave and take him out to dinner. That's

24:22

not happenings Like the logical

24:24

firm is projection. So yeah, I

24:27

go along with you, Nancy, he's having

24:29

an affair assemble. Yeah, just

24:32

what about isn't there a woman that is now

24:34

video chatting him behind bars that he

24:36

was seeing and going to her home before

24:39

he was arrested. Yeah,

24:41

there, and what they're just what having a

24:43

prayer meeting? If I could

24:45

just jump in this is dan. The affair

24:48

doesn't necessarily have to be physically

24:51

in the same room. He's

24:54

having an affair that's taking place

24:56

obviously electronically digitally

24:59

through the media, and they're both communicating

25:01

and they're probably sharing intimate information.

25:04

As you said, Nancy, that is

25:07

the foundation for an

25:09

affair that's going to grow into a physical

25:11

situation. You know, I could

25:14

twiddle my phones all day long and figure out or

25:16

try to figure out what Barried Morpheu was doing

25:18

with various women. But what I

25:20

don't care. That just gives me a little bit

25:22

of motive which I don't have to have to

25:25

prove the case. That's the law. I

25:27

need to get us out of the weeds

25:31

and back into the middle of the road about

25:34

the hard evidence. Take a listen

25:36

to our friends at Fox twenty one

25:39

our cut eighty six. An analyst testified

25:41

that data from Morphew Struck show the

25:43

power was removed around five thirty

25:46

and the system was rebooted. The analyst

25:48

could not explain why Suzanne's cell

25:50

phone paying for the very last time,

25:52

just before thirty am

25:55

on May tenth. Morphy said she was

25:57

asleep when he left around five am

25:59

for a job in Broomfield. Lauren

26:01

Sharf going for

26:03

a job in Broomfield A. It's my understanding

26:06

there was no real job, and he was trying to

26:08

put together a ragtag team of subcontractors

26:11

that morning around four am.

26:14

Also, isn't it true that he was spotted

26:16

on video surveillance? This reminds me so

26:19

much of the Connecticut missing

26:22

mom of five Jennifer Dulos.

26:25

All they found of her is a

26:27

big pool of blood in her garage and

26:29

in her car, and video

26:32

of her husband and his lover dumping

26:36

such as rags and so forth. And

26:38

isn't it true that in Broomville, where

26:40

he says he's got a job going on, Barry

26:43

Morephew has spotted stopping

26:46

five or six times throwing things

26:49

away. Yeah,

26:51

I mean one of the stops he had to not just

26:53

put one like through. He's not

26:55

just like throwing it in the trash. He's

26:57

pushing it down into the trash.

27:00

In the photos you can see he uses two

27:02

hands to put it lower in the trash.

27:05

At one of the stops and he's he's

27:07

going to like men's warehouse dumpster

27:10

and McDonald's dumpster, and you

27:12

know an RTD bus stop dumpster

27:15

or trash trash site

27:17

as well, and then as well as his hotel

27:19

dumpster multiple times too. And

27:22

you know it's and you know, they

27:24

asked him what were these what did you throw away?

27:26

What? You know, what are in those trash bags?

27:29

And he the only thing he could remember was

27:31

the tranquilizer material that

27:33

he threw away. Nicole deboord

27:35

hots Globe, criminal defense

27:37

attorney in Houston, former prosecutor

27:40

Houston Criminal Defense dot Com. Nicole,

27:43

you and I would have a field day with that.

27:46

First of all, I would get plenty

27:48

of women on the jury because

27:51

you know, anybody in their right mind,

27:53

especially at this time of COVID, it's

27:56

not going to go to a public trash

27:59

can, put something

28:01

in it and then put your hands and squish

28:03

it down, just cram it down.

28:06

You're gonna put your hands and a

28:08

public trash cans

28:10

like one of the subsided green dumpsters

28:13

behind McDonald's. Oh no,

28:16

that's not going to happen. You

28:18

know, trying to get rid of evidence,

28:21

it's absolutely absurd. In his explanation

28:24

all of these things, the tranquiliser

28:27

piece in the in the dryer, uh,

28:29

you know, the power coming off on the phone. You

28:32

know, he thinks he's clever, but he is

28:34

not as clever as he thinks. And now you

28:36

know, this excuse that he's making for what

28:38

he might have been throwing away is just you

28:41

know, it's sort of an empty and hollow h

28:44

You know, he's trying to he's trying to come up with a reason why

28:46

he was out and about throwing out trash in public

28:48

trash cans. And I just cannot imagine

28:50

that any jury is going to buy this crime

29:05

stories with Nancy Grace, Nicole

29:08

Debord, Hodge Club. You've tried a lot of cases. There's

29:11

the old saying, I think this goes

29:13

all the way back to Nixon, But I'm not sure. It's

29:15

not the crime, it's the cover up. The

29:18

point here is we're getting more

29:20

evidence about a cover up then

29:23

we do. Then we have about where

29:25

is Susanne Morpheu's body.

29:27

But the cover up braves

29:30

the crime, Nicole, it

29:32

really does. I mean, this is going to be an interesting

29:34

case too as it moves forward ultimately in front

29:37

of a jury, because I'll be curious

29:39

to see whether this guy decides to testify.

29:41

Sometimes people who think they can come up with

29:43

an explanation for everything really

29:45

want to get their story out there in front of a jury.

29:48

And I wonder if this individual

29:50

will decide that he too wants to tell his story.

29:52

I don't think they'll buy it, but it can all

29:55

early. Pray Nicole Debord

29:57

Hodge Club that he does take the stand. Hey,

29:59

Lauren, who told you in the

30:01

courtroom that you had ruined their lives

30:04

one of very sisters? How

30:07

did you ruin their life? Good

30:09

question? I don't know. I

30:12

was just trying to, you know, report

30:14

on Suzanne and her disappearance,

30:17

and I don't know how I ruined

30:19

their life, you know. Also, apparently

30:22

the adult daughters will once adult.

30:25

One is I think just coming out of high school. They

30:27

both are signing with the dad, right yeah.

30:31

I mean throughout the you know, court hearing,

30:33

you can see the daughters, you know, obviously

30:36

visibly upset, but in between breaks,

30:38

they're very turns around and

30:40

you know it says I love you. He pulls his mass

30:42

down and says I love you, and the girls you

30:45

know say I miss you and love you and

30:47

you know, you're my best friend and things

30:49

like that, and they're you know, praying for

30:52

him, and so they're definitely uh,

30:54

you know, well, you know what I just did. Something

30:56

really was really wrong. I rolled

30:58

my eyes, all my eyes because I don't

31:01

believe. I

31:03

roll my eyes because I feel that he, Barry Morphy,

31:05

is manipulating his daughters, and

31:09

I also feel

31:11

really bad for them. Doctor

31:14

Jerry Cross, and I've tried

31:16

a lot of cases, and adult children

31:20

typically will side with the living

31:22

parent, even when the parents accused of

31:24

murder, because I don't think that

31:26

they can emotionally accept

31:28

what has happened. So I don't want to make

31:30

light of what these girls are

31:33

going through because they've lost their mother

31:35

and now their dad's on trial for he is going

31:37

to be on trial for her murder. Yeah.

31:40

And to add to that victimization that

31:42

the fathers using for the manipulation,

31:45

is she even having an affair for

31:47

two years and

31:50

so you know he's a victim of that. And I think

31:52

one of the daughters, even when

31:54

she found out about it just recently

31:57

or something, you know, that really impacted her.

31:59

Guys, I'm wanting

32:01

to take in a listen to our cut seventy

32:03

five, Tyler, it's our

32:06

friends at Fox twenty

32:08

one. The affair was allegedly for a

32:10

year and a half, something Susanne kept

32:13

from everyone, even her best friend, Sheila Oliver.

32:15

Text messages between the two friends show

32:17

Susanne expressing concerns about

32:19

her marriage with Barry and how it affected

32:22

her health. A text message reads, he

32:24

looks for any reason to run. It can

32:26

be small, and he blows up and takes off.

32:28

I believe there's still another I

32:30

can't win with him. He's too good

32:32

at the manipulation. I feel stuck.

32:35

I can't let my health decline again. Susanne

32:37

was in remission for the second time when

32:39

she disappeared, Lauren Sharf

32:42

joining me Fox twenty one News.

32:44

You can find her at Lauren Sharff TV.

32:48

Lauren, what was her ailment?

32:51

She had leukemia should

32:53

a cancer, and this is the second

32:55

time she's had it. She had it in college

32:58

as well, and Barry morephew, he

33:00

helped her through that. You know, his

33:02

sister or Susanne's sister told

33:04

me, you know, Barry would carry her from

33:07

a place to place or whatever in college

33:09

and helped her with that. And then she also

33:12

got it I believe right before

33:15

they moved to Colorado the

33:17

second time. More of an insight

33:19

into their marriage, take a listen to our

33:21

cut seventy seven, Jamie Leary, CBS

33:24

four. Prosecutors have painted a picture of a

33:26

man who desperately did not want

33:28

to lose his wife just before her

33:30

disappearance, so Susanne sent Barrymorephe,

33:32

her husband, a text indicating that she

33:34

was done. He responded with the text indicating

33:37

suicide, saying he wouldn't be around for much

33:39

longer and that he was going to see his

33:41

savior. Susanne and Barrymorephy

33:43

met and fell in love when they were just seventeen. And we

33:46

learned on day one of this here and that

33:48

Susanne was looking for an opportunity to leave

33:50

and had been having an affair for the last two

33:52

years. Her last correspondence

33:54

with anyone was with a man. She was having that

33:56

affair with Jeff Libbler, investigator

33:59

sannet Ay ninth. They exchanged

34:01

fifty nine messages and consider

34:03

a selfie she sent him while sunbathing outside

34:06

her home her last proof of life.

34:08

You know to Lauren Sharf, tell

34:10

me what's happening in the court run. How

34:13

are the daughters in the family all taking

34:15

this. That first day

34:17

of the preliminary hearing, when the whole affair

34:20

came out, they everyone, you

34:22

know, the Morphew family were crying.

34:25

I mean when they saw the last known

34:28

photo of Suzanne. The girls were

34:31

one girl was leaning on her

34:33

legs, you know, her hair

34:36

covering over her face, just in tears.

34:39

And I mean the two girls are supporting

34:41

one of another. They're holding each other's

34:43

hands, rubbing each other's backs, passing

34:47

tissues to one another. It

34:49

was definitely emotional, emotional

34:51

day. So why don't you take a listen to our cut

34:54

eighty seven our friends at Fox twenty

34:56

one. The state mentioned multiple

34:59

dating web site that they claim

35:02

Verry Morphew search and not include

35:05

Ashley Madison, as well as Celebji

35:08

Hot. When this was brought up, Morphew

35:10

was visibly upset, and he even sat

35:12

up in his seat in court. An

35:14

investigator spoke with a friend of

35:16

the family who recorded morephe accusing

35:19

Susanne of sleeping with a man in a basement,

35:21

and Morphew allegedly said he would shoot

35:23

off his balls and he would shoot

35:26

and shove them down his throat if

35:28

he found the guy his defense made

35:30

it clear that there was only one search

35:32

of find a Q Girl in Salida, and

35:34

they questioned the state's knowledge of whether

35:36

they knew for certain it was Morphew who

35:39

was searching those dating websites.

35:41

Wait a minute, Lauren Sharp, are they actually

35:43

going to try to tell me that it was

35:45

Suzanne Morphew looking

35:48

up celebjahad to

35:50

look at nude women. Yeah,

35:53

I mean the defense was just saying, how

35:55

do you know for certain that it was Barry

35:57

Morphew who was searching these sites? Now,

36:00

I want to circle back to the hard evidence,

36:02

whether he's having an affair or not having

36:04

an affair, And the hard evidence right

36:06

now are his movements, the

36:10

dart gun, and the fake alibi

36:14

that he created the morning Suzanne

36:16

disappeared. I'm not sure that

36:19

that's when she really disappeared,

36:22

but he's left behind quite

36:24

a digital path a

36:26

mile wide. Lauren

36:28

Shar Fox twenty one News reporter,

36:30

all the story from the very very beginning. Tell

36:33

me about his manufactured alibi.

36:36

It all started when Suzanne first went

36:38

missing. He told somebody

36:41

that he had gone for continuing

36:43

volunteer firefighter education

36:46

at some out of town seminar on

36:48

mother's day, a day that he

36:51

knew his two girls would also

36:53

be gone. That pen

36:55

didn't pan out, And then it

36:58

turned out he had put together

37:00

a crew that morning,

37:03

the morning she's reported missing, around

37:05

four am, to go to another

37:07

town to build a wall,

37:10

like a retainer wall. And it wasn't

37:13

a real job. Yeah, So the whole

37:15

thing about the you know, firefighter

37:17

training that was that

37:19

didn't happen because there was no firefighter training

37:21

in the middle of COVID. And then you

37:23

know, when he went to the Broomfield

37:26

and worked on this wall, retaining

37:29

wall, I spook with multiple of

37:31

the employees that he had called kind

37:33

of last minute to work on that job. And

37:35

then I also found out that you

37:37

in the city of Broomfield, you cannot work

37:40

on a holiday or Sunday, and

37:42

Mother's Day fell on a Sunday

37:44

and found out that you can't work.

37:47

He knew that the company he was doing

37:49

this job knew that, and

37:52

the job was to fix a retaining

37:55

wall that he and his crew had

37:57

messed up a year prior in

37:59

October of twenty nineteen, and

38:02

in court, the investigators

38:04

found out through the GPS tracking of

38:06

his truck that he only was

38:08

at that retaining wall for about ten

38:10

to fifteen minutes, and his crew

38:12

had told me that it looked

38:15

like he had only been done about like

38:17

ten to fifteen minutes of work. And

38:19

meanwhile he's in his hotel room for

38:22

five hours, and he's

38:24

shown on surveillance camera

38:28

leaving and coming from his hotel room

38:30

the time stamps, and every

38:33

single time he's leaving and coming, he is,

38:35

you know, trashing his hand, and he has

38:37

different clothes on from every

38:40

time he comes and goes from the hotel room

38:42

in Broomfield. We wait as

38:44

justice unfalls. Nancy

38:46

Grace CROM's story, signing off Goodbye

38:48

friend,