This episode will make you think!  There are no easy answers, nothing is black and white, and this week's guest Jess Pettitt (https://jesspettitt.com/) and I wander down a bunch of uncomfortable paths!  This is something she has been doing with her audiences and clients for decades, and she is a master at giving people permission to sit in the discomfort of commonly challenging topics like INCLUSION and CHANGE and LUNCH MEATS!  (ok, I added that last one.  I have baloney on the brain....you'll see why once you listen to this episode!)  Open your mind, set aside emotion, and engage in this brilliant academic exercise with us, to help make you stronger when the challenges aren't so academic...and they join you in your kitchen!

We chat about

• Self awareness being the first step to true change
• How change doesn't have to come in big leaps...in fact, it sticks better if it doesn't.
• War criminals
• spreadable cheese
• Inclusion
• Tough Conversations
• Bologna (baloney?)
• Prison Reform
• Abortion
• When to order more appetizers!

There's a little something for everyone, so buckle up and enjoy!

If you want more from Jess, go to https://jesspettitt.com/  

Thanks for wandering down this road with us!