Luke Wesley initially appeared on Episode 109, but our conversation felt unfinished in a lot of ways.

We've hung out a couple of times in the year since recording, and finally got it together to press the record button. What came out is a really transparent, sometimes funny, sometimes dark conversation about loss--loss of connection (due to the pandemic and loved ones moving away), loss of income (struggling to make ends meet as a New Yorker without a stable, corporate job), and the loss of his mom last year, and all of the complicated feelings that can dredge up.

Hope you enjoy the episode.