Episode Transcript
Transcripts are displayed as originally observed. Some content, including advertisements may have changed.
Use Ctrl + F to search
0:01
What is going on true crime
0:04
fans?
0:14
I'm your
0:16
host Heath and I'm your host Daphne and
0:18
you're listening to Going West. I
0:20
didn't know if you were gonna get your intro in time with that
0:22
yawn. I had a really big yawn right
0:25
before I needed to start my intro but I nailed
0:27
it. You did it. You did it. Alright
0:29
everybody, thank you so much for tuning in today and thank you
0:32
so much to Hussein for recommending today's
0:34
case. It is one out of Washington.
0:37
There are so many suspects in this one but it actually
0:39
takes a very unexpected turn.
0:43
But this one is solved so we do have resolution
0:45
at the end of it, at least
0:46
for the most part. Yeah, and thankfully
0:49
we're actually able to record this today because
0:51
yesterday we had a pretty big storm here but
0:54
we got a ton of rain. I
0:56
think I was up until like four in the morning just listening
0:58
to the windows shake.
0:59
Oh my god, last night was insane. We
1:02
both kept waking up like what is happening but
1:05
it was lovely to have some rain
1:07
for a change in LA.
1:08
But thankfully we are here to give you
1:10
guys a little dose of true crime
1:12
today so let's talk about
1:15
this episode. Alright guys,
1:17
this is episode 333 of Going West. Let's
1:22
get into
1:22
it.
1:40
If you've been listening to Going West for a while
1:42
then you know that Heath and I love
1:44
Lume microdose gummies. So if
1:46
you haven't tried them by now, it is
1:49
time.
1:50
Whether you're looking for a creative boost, something
1:52
to help you sleep, something to help with pain
1:54
or anxiety, microdose gummies
1:57
deliver perfect entry-level doses
1:59
of THC. that can help with
2:02
all of these things. Because for
2:04
me, they really help me get a great
2:06
night's sleep. I
2:07
am definitely an over thinker, especially because
2:10
I talk about true crime basically every day.
2:12
So just a half a dose of a micro
2:14
dose gummy puts me in the perfect
2:16
mood, it helps me de-stress, helps me
2:18
relax and just chill. Yeah, you guys really
2:21
need to try these if you haven't yet. And get
2:23
this, micro dose is available
2:25
nationwide.
2:27
To learn more about micro dosing THC,
2:30
go to microdose.com and use
2:32
code goingwest to get free
2:35
shipping and 30% off your first order.
2:38
Links can be found in the show description, but
2:40
again, that's microdose.com
2:43
and code goingwest.
2:48
Wow, I'm catching all the green lights this
2:51
morning. And once I'm in the office, it's
2:53
gonna keep feeling this smooth because monday.com
2:55
helps our work processes flow. Instead
2:58
of collaborating across different apps, we use
3:00
monday.com to connect every
3:02
part of our work to one platform. It
3:04
keeps work moving forward, just like catching
3:07
all the green lights. Oh, did I just
3:09
miss the exit?
3:10
Whether it's projects, sales, marketing,
3:12
or dev, you can streamline any type
3:14
of work. Go to monday.com to learn how.
3:16
What's
3:19
your story? What's your story?
3:33
In
3:33
August of 2001, a
3:36
36-year-old mom of three was found murdered
3:38
in her own home in Washington.
3:41
No
3:42
one could understand who would kill
3:44
her and why. But
3:46
as police dug deeper into potential
3:48
suspects, a journal entry
3:51
with the desire to kill someone
3:53
and get away with it would ultimately
3:56
crack the case.
4:00
This is the story of
4:02
Dana Leskowski. Dana
4:20
Ross was born on February 23,
4:22
1965 to parents Judy and Bill Ross. Above
4:28
all, Judy remembers her daughter's kindness
4:31
and big heart, saying fondly, quote,
4:34
she was my baby. She was just so
4:36
gentle. But sadly, Dana's
4:39
kindness was often taken advantage
4:41
of, as you guys will see. So
4:43
Judy and Bill eventually divorced, and
4:46
Bill remarried a woman named Kathy,
4:48
which brought Dana two half-siblings and
4:50
four step-siblings.
4:52
As a child, Dana settled in Puyallup,
4:55
Washington, which is about 20 minutes
4:57
southeast of Tacoma and 45 minutes
4:59
south of Seattle.
5:00
Puyallup, which is a quaint suburb
5:03
rich in Native American history, is
5:05
settled between the Puget Sound and Mount
5:07
Rainier. In her
5:10
20s, Dana met and married a man named Stan
5:12
Leskowski, and thrilled
5:14
at the prospect of being parents, they started
5:16
trying for kids right away. But
5:19
after struggling with infertility for years,
5:22
Dana and Stan attempted in vitro
5:24
fertilization, and luckily, they
5:26
were successful. So at 27
5:29
years old, Dana was met with the news that
5:31
they were expecting triplets.
5:34
In an interview with the local paper, she said, quote,
5:37
we had dreamed of one baby. To
5:39
be expecting three, two boys and a girl
5:41
was incredible.
5:43
But throughout her pregnancy, she did
5:45
have some complications. And I'm going
5:47
to briefly get into them now, but this part does
5:49
have a happy ending. Christmas
5:51
of 1993, so just a few
5:53
months into the pregnancy, she was put
5:56
on bed rest. By February,
5:58
she was rushed to the hospital. with pre-labor
6:00
symptoms at just 20 weeks. At
6:04
this point, doctors cautioned the couple
6:06
were at risk of losing their baby girl.
6:08
So heartbroken at the possibility,
6:11
Dana remembered, quote, The emotional
6:13
pain was incredible. We were
6:15
so in love with each baby already.
6:18
We cried the whole night. So
6:20
Dana was admitted to the hospital for an extended
6:23
stay in hopes of keeping the babies from
6:25
delivery for as long as
6:27
possible. And for 13 weeks,
6:30
Stan worked during the day at his job as a mechanic
6:32
and spent every single night by
6:35
Dana's side.
6:37
At seven months, Dana went into labor
6:39
and miraculously delivered three
6:42
healthy babies. Thank God.
6:44
And within just a few days, the family of five
6:46
was home and beginning their new life together. The
6:49
family's doctor claims that it was their strength
6:52
and determination that kept them afloat, saying,
6:54
quote, They believed so strongly
6:56
in a positive outcome. We did everything
6:59
to keep those babies, but it was their
7:01
determination that made the difference. And
7:04
then Dana echoed this by saying, quote, Whatever
7:06
it took, whatever it takes now, we're
7:08
willing to do. And
7:10
the family really prospered in their triplets
7:13
early years, but the relationship between Dana
7:15
and Stan eventually ran its
7:17
course. And in 2001,
7:19
when the triplets were around eight years old,
7:21
the couple separated and then they filed for
7:24
divorce. In the summer of 2001,
7:27
36 year old Dana was rebuilding her life after her
7:29
separation. And now that the kids
7:32
were older and their needs weren't quite as demanding,
7:35
she had more time to herself. She
7:37
settled into a new house and she and Stan
7:39
shared full custody. At 36
7:42
years old and still a vibrant young woman,
7:45
she was excited to start going out more and
7:47
to begin dating again. And
7:49
this is purely speculation, but it's rumored
7:51
that Dana is the one who initiated the divorce
7:54
and that Stan had hopes that she would maybe come
7:56
back to him, but she was ready to move
7:58
on and see where things could go for her. her. Dana
8:01
is remembered by friends and family as fun, vivacious
8:04
and social, and as much as she enjoyed
8:07
having her children at home with her, she had
8:09
always loved to go out dancing,
8:11
and she used her kid-free nights to the fullest.
8:14
That summer, Dana was working as a full-time
8:16
nanny for a family in the community, really
8:18
just cherishing the time that she spent with children
8:21
and outside of working with them and caring for
8:23
her own, she volunteered teaching sign
8:25
language to kids. She
8:28
was also a very gifted artist, and she loved
8:30
to paint in her free time.
8:31
Yeah, it just seemed like Dana was always helping others,
8:34
especially kids or just young people in
8:36
general, and a little
8:38
more on that. So in addition to all
8:41
of her other commitments, Dana took time
8:43
to mentor teenagers in the area who were
8:45
struggling with addiction and family
8:47
issues. Like, she was just such an amazing
8:50
soul. And one of those teenagers
8:52
was her own niece, Amanda.
8:55
Dana really prided herself on her closeness
8:57
with her family, but she had a special affinity
9:00
for Amanda. Amanda
9:02
kind of had a reputation in their family and
9:04
in the community for being a bit of a wild
9:07
child, and she had engaged in frequent
9:09
drug use. So she was often
9:11
getting kicked out of the house or running away,
9:14
but Dana, as a nurturing adult
9:16
figure in Amanda's life, was known for
9:18
taking Amanda and her friends in since
9:20
many of them had been kicked out of their houses for
9:23
frequent partying and drug
9:24
use, which
9:25
led Amanda and her friends to playfully
9:27
nickname themselves the Park Rats.
9:31
But although many had been shunned
9:33
by their families, Dana treated them
9:35
with kindness, dignity, and patience.
9:38
And she would actually frequently allow Amanda
9:40
to hang out at her house with her friends so that
9:43
Dana could keep an eye on them. Amanda
9:46
and her best friend Emily were pretty regular
9:48
guests, and oftentimes Dana
9:50
would even leave a window unlocked so that
9:52
Amanda or her friends could come in to eat,
9:55
do their laundry, or take a shower at her
9:57
house, which is really, really generous. On
10:00
top of that, sometimes she would give them money
10:02
when she could, just hoping that they would use it
10:04
to take care of themselves, but unfortunately,
10:07
more often than not, Amanda and Emily
10:09
would use it to buy drugs. Now,
10:12
somehow, amidst all of her outside
10:14
obligations, Dana also found
10:16
time to meet a new love interest. Dana's
10:19
new boyfriend Mark hailed from Vancouver,
10:22
Canada, which is about three hours north
10:24
of Puyallup, and he worked in the film
10:26
industry.
10:27
And immediately devoted
10:29
to Dana, he was kind of this breath of fresh
10:32
air after her separation.
10:34
But Mark wasn't the only one who had his eyes
10:37
on Dana that summer. In the months
10:39
leading up to her murder, she was dealing
10:41
with a stalker.
10:43
So Dana had been having problems with her phone
10:46
line, and she had called this cable company
10:48
to request that they send over a technician. The
10:52
cable employee, whose name is Earl
10:54
Baxter, worked on this issue
10:56
while he and Dana, who was friendly with everyone
10:58
she met,
10:59
just kind of chatted. And apparently,
11:01
Earl got the wrong idea, thinking
11:04
that Dana was interested in him. And
11:06
because he already had her phone number
11:08
from repairing her phone line, he
11:10
abused it. He started texting
11:12
and calling her incessantly, checking
11:15
in on her and asking her out. Dana
11:18
was polite and firm at first, just
11:20
kind of explaining that she already had a boyfriend, but
11:23
his attempts to woo her just continued.
11:26
He started sending her flowers, notes,
11:28
and poems pleading with her
11:30
to give him a chance.
11:32
In one, he vaguely threatened her that
11:35
he would be quote, watching over
11:37
her. And a friend of Dana's
11:39
even caught him spying on her in his car
11:41
across the street from her house. According
11:45
to her employees, Dana had said that
11:47
if anything happened to her that summer, they
11:50
needed to look into Earl Baxter. Yeah,
11:52
like she was so freaked out by this man
11:55
that she made that statement.
11:57
Yeah, so he's really.
12:00
not getting the point here. So
12:02
when she told her new boyfriend Mark about this stalking
12:05
issue he was irate. Sadly
12:08
Dana's friends remembered him as intensely
12:11
protective and sometimes to
12:13
a controlling degree. God
12:14
like poor Dana I can't catch a break with these guys.
12:17
Yeah it just seems like they're all just a
12:19
lot. Yeah. Calm down.
12:21
So Mark told Dana that he knew people who could quote
12:24
take care of Earl,
12:25
claiming to insinuate that Mark was going to
12:27
have him killed. So Dana was
12:30
just understandably horrified
12:32
at this situation and asked Mark who
12:34
was staying with her at the time to leave the
12:36
house so that they could take some space. And
12:39
this just goes to show you how good of a person
12:41
she really was because she was upset
12:43
about her boyfriend talking about killing a guy
12:45
who was stalking and threatening her.
12:47
Like most people would be like yeah
12:50
please help me but she's like no
12:52
that's far too much. Yeah that's like
12:54
the wrong way to approach this. That totally shows
12:57
her character. But apparently she was kind
12:59
of already on the rocks with Mark as he had
13:01
basically told her that he was ready to move to Pialup
13:03
from Vancouver to be with her
13:05
and she had to break it to him that she just really
13:07
wasn't ready for this step. She
13:10
told him that she thought that they should pump the brakes
13:12
on how quickly their relationship was progressing
13:15
which he was not happy about. On
13:18
the evening of Thursday, August
13:21
30th, 2001, Dana and
13:23
Mark shared a tense conversation on the phone
13:25
in which Dana didn't respond when he told her
13:27
that he loved her. Which was also
13:30
very upsetting to Mark.
13:32
The next morning, which was Friday, August
13:35
31st, 2001, Dana failed to show up for work at
13:39
her nanny job.
13:41
Puzzled as this was entirely
13:44
out of character for Dana, the mom of the
13:46
children Dana cared for called the police
13:49
and requested a wellness check at her home.
13:52
When the police arrived there, the
13:54
house was static and seemed undisturbed.
13:58
Now the front door was locked and Dana's
13:59
His car was parked out front, but
14:02
Dana continued to be unresponsive
14:05
to the repeated calls to her home and cell
14:07
phone, and no one was
14:09
answering the door.
14:11
As police surveyed the premises
14:13
of her home, they found the back
14:15
door not only unlocked, but
14:17
partially open.
14:19
So they entered slowly, but
14:22
were met with total silence.
14:26
Then on the couch, they came
14:28
across Dana, face down,
14:31
body limp.
14:32
At first, it appeared that
14:35
she was sleeping. She was twisted
14:37
at the hip, she had one arm folded behind
14:39
her and the other placed above her head,
14:42
and she was covered with a blanket and
14:44
pillow.
14:45
So hoping that she had simply just slipped
14:47
into a deep sleep, police
14:49
approached her cautiously, but
14:51
to their dismay,
14:53
quickly found that she was cold
14:55
to the touch. She
14:57
had been dead for hours
14:59
by then, but the crime scene itself
15:02
was strange, like there was no sign of a struggle,
15:05
except for a few scuff marks in
15:07
the carpet.
15:09
There was no DNA and no fingerprints
15:12
recovered at this scene, and Dana was fully
15:14
clothed with no signs of sexual assault.
15:17
After her discovery, her body was
15:19
removed from the premises to undergo an autopsy,
15:22
while police scoured her home for any sign
15:24
of a break-in, a motive, or a
15:27
suspect. Due to ligature
15:29
marks around her neck, Dana's cause
15:31
of death was determined to be strangulation,
15:33
and police noted that her attacker was likely
15:36
quote, stronger than the average
15:38
man.
15:39
So
15:44
as investigators looked around her home, they
15:46
noticed a scarf discarded in a chair
15:48
near where she was found in the living room, which
15:51
was believed to be the murder weapon.
15:53
And disturbingly, Dana had
15:55
been strangled so roughly that
15:57
her attacker fractured her windpipe
16:00
and there was dried blood found around
16:02
her nose and her ears. There
16:05
was severe bruising on her knees, indicating
16:07
that a scuffle had taken place between Dana
16:10
and her murderer before she was killed, which
16:13
likely accounted for the marks in the carpet. They
16:16
suggested that Dana and her attacker had fought
16:18
on the carpet before Dana was killed, and
16:21
that she was then placed on the couch posthumously
16:24
before the blanket and pillow were placed over
16:26
her. And as we've briefly
16:28
touched on in other episodes, but not for
16:30
a while, investigators noted that gently
16:33
covering the corpse of a victim is usually an
16:35
indication of guilt
16:36
by the attacker.
16:38
Based on the state of the body, the
16:40
medical examiner determined that Dana was killed
16:42
in the early morning hours of August
16:45
31st,
16:46
that same Friday, hours
16:47
before she was discovered. Not
16:51
only did the covering of the body make investigators
16:53
note that the attack seemed personal,
16:55
but strangulation is most often committed
16:58
by someone who knows their victim
17:00
and is usually spur of the moment.
17:02
Because there was no sign of forced entry,
17:05
police believed that this was either someone who took
17:07
advantage of her back door being unlocked or
17:09
more likely that it was someone
17:12
who Dana knew and someone
17:14
she herself had let into
17:16
her home.
17:26
Of course, death is very long and
17:33
UW cannot be met by any sources
17:36
of After
17:39
Correcting 123 more days
17:42
to Did Very compress Fuck
17:44
of America, dark
17:48
FBI police were built to prevent suicide during aWSU
17:50
marriages for allgun, and
17:53
gave her the nerve to take the life of a beloved mom
17:55
and such a treasured member of the community.
17:59
about this case. There were multiple people that
18:02
could have done it. Like, first of all, we've got Stan,
18:04
who, Stan, Stan, who's
18:06
kind of like her scorned
18:09
ex-husband. And he, like,
18:11
Heath was touching on earlier, seemed
18:13
to be holding out hope that the two of them would
18:16
end up together and saw his chances
18:18
dwindling as Dana's relationship with
18:20
Mark kind of flourished.
18:22
Yeah, he was really hoping that that would
18:24
not be the end. Yeah. So then you're the
18:26
police are thinking at least... Could that be motive? Yeah,
18:29
could that be motive? But, sorry
18:31
to repeat you, but Mark and Dana
18:33
seem to be on different pages
18:35
of their relationship as we've touched on as well,
18:38
because he was ready to move to a different country
18:40
for her from Canada to the US. And
18:42
she
18:43
didn't really seem to want to be in a relationship
18:46
with him or at least wanted to take some space
18:48
from him. So not only was he upset
18:50
by Dana's unenthusiastic response,
18:52
but he was angry about the cable
18:55
guy Earl's inappropriate behavior
18:57
towards Dana. And then there's
18:59
Earl. So Earl was upset by
19:01
Dana rejecting his advances. And
19:03
remember how extreme those advances
19:06
were. He was constantly calling
19:08
her, texting her, sending her flowers, watching
19:10
her from outside of her house. Like he's, it's like, dude,
19:13
get the message. She's not interested. And he's
19:16
not getting it. And he's getting upset
19:18
that she is not reciprocating.
19:19
And he even threatened her. He even said that, you
19:22
know, I'll be watching over you. Exactly.
19:25
So police announced that while they wouldn't
19:27
name them publicly at that time,
19:29
they had multiple suspects,
19:32
obviously. So they started with
19:34
her ex-husband, Stan, bringing him in for
19:36
questioning. And when they did, police
19:39
noted that while he attempted to seem
19:42
forlorn, he was fake crying
19:45
and he wasn't actually producing tears.
19:48
They also noted that he appeared to have scratches
19:51
on his elbows and knees, as
19:53
if he had recently been involved in an altercation.
19:57
And they thought this may explain the scuff marks
19:59
in Dana's car
19:59
and the bruises on her own knees.
20:03
Also, I know we keep saying scuff
20:05
marks in the carpet.
20:07
I don't know what that means either, okay? Maybe
20:10
it's just, it could have either been for
20:12
dirty shoes maybe is what I was thinking
20:15
or
20:16
just like an impression in the carpet
20:18
that didn't seem normal. Yeah, we
20:21
tried to figure out exactly what that meant and
20:23
I just don't know. So I keep, every
20:25
time I say it I'm like, what
20:26
does that mean? Like I can't picture that. I
20:29
mean, there's just so many different types of carpets.
20:31
I know, yeah, you're right. You know what I mean? Yeah,
20:33
like what to even picture.
20:34
But anyway, so police obviously
20:36
found this very suspicious that he seemed to be
20:38
faking emotion. He also had
20:40
these injuries which never looks good when you're
20:43
looking at somebody for a murder. So they questioned
20:45
his whereabouts for the night that she was killed. And
20:48
they found that he had been preparing to take
20:50
the triplets on a camping trip early the
20:52
next morning and he had been home with
20:54
them all that evening. And he
20:56
was even able to provide a receipt from
20:59
a gas station that he stopped at that night. Now
21:02
that's not like the most airtight alibi. Obviously
21:04
your kids can vouch for you and you're at a
21:06
gas station, but that doesn't mean that you didn't go to
21:08
her
21:09
house and kill her after that, you know? But they,
21:11
after questioning him, the police felt like, okay,
21:14
we can move on. And they may have
21:16
done their due diligence and possibly looked
21:18
at security camera footage from the gas station
21:21
or determined
21:22
what time he was there and how far
21:24
he would have been away from the house.
21:28
And that's why I want to touch on it because even though it kind
21:30
of doesn't seem like a lot or enough,
21:33
they did feel confident
21:35
moving off of him as a person
21:37
of interest. So after
21:39
talking to her employers, police were
21:42
very curious about Dana's stalker,
21:44
Earl.
21:45
Now Earl was apparently shocked
21:48
that Dana had been killed. Though after
21:50
Stan's feigned reaction to sadness or
21:52
supposed feigned reaction of sadness,
21:55
police were pretty unconvinced. And also
21:57
I want to add that if Stan was
21:59
really upset by this, especially because Dana
22:02
is the mother of his children and he did
22:04
want to get her back. I don't want it to come off
22:06
like I'm saying he wasn't sad at her death.
22:08
This is just what the police believed. Thank you, exactly.
22:11
So Earl was apparently shocked,
22:14
but police kind of felt unconvinced with
22:16
that, or at least unsure with that.
22:19
But when they asked about his whereabouts, Earl
22:21
claimed that he had been watching a movie with friends
22:24
on the night that Dana was murdered, which
22:26
was an alibi that was verified by the friends
22:28
that he was with.
22:31
They showed him the phone logs of
22:33
both Dana's home and cell phones, showing
22:36
his dozens of attempted communications
22:38
with her over the past few months. But
22:41
aside from that, surprisingly, neither
22:43
his interview nor a search of his home
22:46
yielded anything suspicious. So
22:49
he was released from consideration
22:51
and frustratingly was never
22:53
charged with stalking Dana.
22:56
And then lastly, there was of course,
22:59
Mark.
23:00
Now Mark also seemed to have a motive, as
23:03
he was anxious for their relationship to move forward.
23:06
Police also found it highly suspicious that
23:08
he had hinted at wanting to kill Earl
23:10
for stalking Dana
23:12
instead of simply reporting it to the police.
23:14
But when police spoke with Mark,
23:17
he had perhaps the most airtight alibi
23:19
of them all. He had still
23:21
been in Canada. So none
23:23
of this is going how police imagined that it would
23:25
go. At this point, they figured that one
23:28
of these guys
23:29
would have been responsible for Dana's
23:31
murder.
23:32
Because remember with Mark, the day
23:34
before Dana was found killed, they
23:37
had that conversation about how he kind of wanted
23:39
to progress things with their relationship and she
23:41
was just not really having it.
23:43
Well, according to Mark, he had been disturbed
23:46
by their conversation and feared that he was
23:48
going to lose Dana. So he had
23:50
gotten into his car and headed down to Pialup
23:53
to straighten things out.
23:54
However, he was actually denied
23:57
entry at the US border
23:59
and never
23:59
Mark actually made it to Dana's house, though
24:02
the reason for his refusal is pretty unclear
24:04
at this point. But his story
24:06
was verified by his phone records, all
24:08
of which confirmed that he was in Canada
24:11
at the time of Dana's death.
24:13
So Mark II was ruled
24:15
out as a suspect.
24:16
So with this, police were just basically
24:19
back to square one and at a total
24:21
loss because they couldn't figure out who could have committed
24:23
this crime after they felt like they had
24:25
three solid persons of interest here.
24:28
But now, all three of them had been
24:30
cleared. So a month passed
24:32
with no answers for Dana's devastated
24:35
family, friends, and children,
24:37
who were just eight years old at the time.
24:40
Investigators attended her funeral, which
24:42
was held 34 days after her
24:44
death, just paying their respects and
24:46
scoping out the crowd for anyone in attendance
24:49
who raised their eyebrows.
24:51
But while they were there, they stumbled
24:54
upon something very eerie
24:56
and reeking of guilt.
24:59
So at the service, Dana's family
25:01
placed a guestbook for mourners to sign
25:03
and leave their final wishes, memories,
25:06
or messages of love for her.
25:08
And in it, Dana's niece Amanda
25:11
penned a heartfelt tribute to her aunt,
25:13
apologizing that she hadn't been a better
25:16
niece.
25:17
She also proudly wrote to Dana that
25:19
motivated by her death, Amanda
25:21
had been sober for the last 34 days
25:24
and planned on staying that way,
25:26
which is something that Dana had always wished for
25:28
her.
25:29
But here's the kick.
25:31
That was enough for police to want to take a look at
25:33
Amanda's potential involvement,
25:36
because suspiciously, Amanda had
25:38
also written about how hard that
25:40
night was for her.
25:43
Steven Penner, who was the prosecutor that
25:45
later worked on Dana's trial, explained, quote,
25:48
there was something about the way that she had written it
25:50
that suggested that it was communication to Dana
25:53
of remorse and to make amends
25:55
for what had happened. It's something
25:57
that was significant enough to follow up on.
26:00
Yeah, because if she had said that night
26:03
was hard for her,
26:04
the police are like, well, what do you mean that night?
26:06
Like, we found her the next day. Why
26:08
would that night have been hard for you?
26:11
Unless you were there. Right? Yeah,
26:14
you wouldn't have known about it till the next day.
26:15
So when they brought Dana's niece, Amanda,
26:17
in for questioning, she was clearly
26:20
nervous, which is fair. She's also a teenager,
26:22
but she first attempted to blame Dana's
26:24
death on a friend in her group of park rats
26:27
named Blaine, who she described
26:29
as a 250 pound drug dealer with
26:32
a violent history. Amanda
26:34
even claimed that he had physically attacked
26:36
her in the past. But when they located
26:39
Blaine, it turned out that he had been in
26:41
another state altogether when
26:43
Dana was murdered, and he was not
26:45
found to be involved in any capacity.
26:48
So they're like, all right, what's the next
26:50
story? Well, when investigators begin
26:52
to question others in Amanda's
26:54
friend group,
26:55
three different people claim
26:58
that they heard from Emily Lauenborg,
27:01
who was Amanda's best friend, that
27:03
Emily herself had committed
27:05
the murder. They claim
27:07
that she'd even been bragging about it in
27:09
a desperate grab for attention and
27:11
like clout, and so that others
27:14
would fear her. One
27:16
of these friends, who was another member of the
27:18
park rat, was actually incarcerated
27:20
at the time, so police were easily able
27:22
to interview him during his stint in
27:25
prison. Well he also
27:27
cited Emily as Dana's killer, claiming
27:30
that she would brag about the murder and
27:32
that she also took pride in openly
27:34
challenging and threatening other members
27:37
of their group physically in order
27:39
to assert her dominance over them. So
27:42
investigators again brought Amanda
27:45
into the station, and the more they
27:47
prodded her,
27:48
the more she fell apart. Finally,
27:52
in tears and clearly wracked with
27:54
guilt, Amanda began to give
27:56
them pieces of the truth, claiming
27:59
her best friend, Emily, was not the only one.
27:59
Emily had killed her aunt Dana
28:02
before her eyes that night. Amanda
28:05
confessed that they had come to Dana's house
28:07
late that night, high on cocaine, and
28:10
looking for money to purchase more drugs.
28:13
As I mentioned earlier, Dana had given them money
28:15
in the past, but this was really to try to help
28:17
them and she hoped that they wouldn't use
28:20
the money on drugs, so when they came asking for
28:22
it, she declined. She didn't want them
28:24
using her money to buy more drugs.
28:26
She was trying to look out for them. So given
28:29
the state that they were in, she asked
28:31
them to leave. When
28:33
Emily refused to go and began
28:35
escalating the situation, Dana
28:38
had just gently tried to guide Emily
28:40
out the front door of her house, and
28:42
according to Amanda, Emily
28:44
then became extremely
28:47
agitated.
28:48
In Amanda's interview with police, she explained,
28:51
quote, she was getting really irritated
28:53
because Emily was being pushy. Emily
28:55
started getting really upset and being really
28:57
rude to Dana.
28:59
Amanda then claimed that she had been
29:01
scared of Emily and what she was capable
29:04
of, and that she didn't want to be involved in the fight.
29:07
So after attempting to get Emily to leave
29:09
with her and being ignored, she
29:11
turned around and shielded her eyes.
29:15
Amanda then says that she heard sounds of
29:17
a struggle,
29:18
gagging noises, and finally, silence.
29:21
Director Steven Penner described
29:24
on behalf of Amanda, quote, she
29:26
heard a crack and she heard
29:28
a gurgle and she heard Dana
29:30
gasping for her life, and then
29:32
she didn't hear anything.
29:34
And that was because Dana was dead.
29:38
Amanda eventually opened her eyes to see
29:40
her aunt's lifeless body. And after
29:42
she was dead,
29:43
both girls grabbed whatever money
29:46
they could find
29:47
and left out the back door.
29:50
Amanda claimed that Emily had apparently
29:52
always been jealous of Amanda's connection
29:54
with Dana. Amanda also said
29:56
that Dana, fearing Emily was a bad
29:58
influence, tried to convince her
29:59
convince Amanda to distance herself from Emily,
30:02
and of course, to stop using drugs,
30:05
two things that threatened Emily's way of life.
30:08
After Dana's murder, Amanda had been
30:10
overcome with guilt,
30:12
and vowed to change herself, stopping
30:14
her drug use cold turkey, and distancing
30:17
herself from her friends.
30:19
Emily however, seemed unbothered in the
30:21
wake of Dana's murder.
30:23
Not only did she attend Dana's funeral
30:25
among the grieving, including Dana's
30:27
own children, but she even wore
30:29
a shirt that she had stolen from
30:32
Dana to this funeral. And
30:34
speaking with Amanda and Emily's friends, they
30:37
found that Emily was actually known among them
30:39
as a quote, mutant, because
30:41
she had abnormal strength. Which is
30:43
really weird. We are going to post photos
30:46
of her. I don't know how else to say this. She just looks like a normal
30:48
gal. Like, I don't know what a normal gal looks like, but you
30:50
guys know what I mean. And
30:52
it's just, it's weird because earlier, remember,
30:55
and I said, remember this about the whole,
30:57
um, what was the quote? It was like,
30:59
um, more strength than the average man. Wasn't
31:02
that it? Yeah. Yeah.
31:04
So then her friends are saying that she's a mutant and has abnormal
31:07
strength. Like what's, what is going on
31:09
there?
31:09
I mean, she sounds fucking scary, but,
31:12
uh, but I guess, I guess she was a wrestler
31:14
in school and
31:16
she also did some weightlifting. And
31:18
though she
31:18
stood at around five feet tall,
31:21
she was strong enough to overpower almost anyone
31:23
that she came up against, especially when she
31:25
had been using drugs.
31:27
So police finally brought Emily in
31:29
for questioning. And when confronted
31:32
with her friends, accusations of her involvement,
31:35
Emily was furious and combative and
31:37
couldn't
31:37
offer an alibi for her whereabouts that
31:39
evening. But police would need more
31:42
for an arrest. So they obtained a search
31:44
warrant for Emily's apartment and inside
31:47
they came across her diary.
31:49
Like Amanda, she had penned some very incriminating
31:52
passages. Not only was
31:54
she jealous of the relationship between Amanda
31:56
and her aunt Dana,
31:58
but she had also grown resentful.
31:59
full of Amanda in the weeks since Dana's
32:02
murder,
32:03
likely because Amanda had been so racked
32:05
with guilt and Emily was ready to
32:07
move on.
32:08
Well, in one passage complaining
32:10
about Amanda, Emily wrote,
32:12
I could strangle that bitch just like her
32:15
aunt. In another entry,
32:17
Emily had written out a bucket list.
32:20
And among items like own a
32:22
horse and lamb, spend a month
32:24
in the Caribbean and buy a house, was
32:26
the goal to kill someone and
32:29
get away with it,
32:31
which is just so out of place amongst
32:33
the others. Yeah, like you want you
32:35
want like a cute baby lamb and a
32:37
horse, but then you're like, oh yeah, but my other
32:39
thing is like killing a person.
32:41
Yeah.
32:42
But when she was confronted about this,
32:44
Emily just said that it was a joke. So
32:46
she's acting like, oh, I didn't actually
32:49
mean that. But
32:49
you didn't kill someone. Yeah. So
32:52
now of course, she's saying that when they are questioning
32:55
her for a murder and doesn't it feel convenient
32:57
that
32:58
this was just a joke. Sure. It's just a
33:00
joke now.
33:01
Of course. But the third damning
33:03
piece of evidence they found was of course, like
33:05
he'd said, the t-shirt of Dana's
33:08
that Emily had been wearing at the funeral as
33:10
if to kind of like show off what she had done.
33:12
It felt like this little Easter egg
33:14
moment. So that was enough
33:17
for investigators. And 17 year
33:19
old Emily Lauenborg was arrested
33:21
for Dana's murder. Though
33:24
it took over a year and a half for them
33:26
to incriminate her, they finally
33:28
had someone on the hook for Dana's brutal
33:30
slaying. Faced with the potential
33:33
of first degree murder charges, Emily
33:36
could have been sentenced to as many as 20 years
33:38
in prison. Although
33:40
they had strong circumstantial evidence
33:43
as well as a man's eyewitness account, prosecutors
33:46
worried that a guilty verdict would be impossible
33:49
just due to the lack of concrete evidence.
33:52
There was also Emily's petite size.
33:54
Like it just didn't seem believable that
33:57
a 17 year old girl standing
33:59
at five
33:59
feet two inches tall could overpower a 36 year
34:02
old woman. Even though Emily continued
34:05
to claim that she didn't do it, her defense
34:07
attorneys convinced her to plead guilty.
34:10
Entering what her attorneys called a
34:12
modified guilty plea, she maintained
34:14
her innocence while pleading guilty to
34:17
first-degree manslaughter.
34:20
With no physical evidence, the prosecution
34:22
struggled to build a case against her. So
34:24
while it seemed like an unjust sentence,
34:27
the judge accepted her plea.
34:29
In January of 2004, the
34:31
case against Emily was finally drawing
34:33
to a close. Emily's
34:36
defense lawyer said, quote, she's just 19
34:39
now and she's already been in jail a
34:41
year. A
34:42
conviction of murder in the first degree,
34:44
there's no way to recover from that.
34:46
If she pleads to manslaughter in the first
34:48
degree, there's a lot of life left.
34:51
But she murdered somebody. Like I understand
34:53
that they're saying there's not enough physical evidence
34:56
to support that, but if there's an eyewitness,
34:58
she wrote about it in her diary, like
35:01
there's enough circumstantial evidence to point
35:03
to her doing it. So like why do we have so much remorse
35:05
for her and not for Dana?
35:07
Yeah, very, very
35:08
true. Like yeah, you're 19, but then why did you murder
35:10
somebody?
35:10
Exactly. It's just, it's very
35:12
stupid. But get this, somehow
35:15
Emily was sentenced to six and a half
35:18
years in prison and was even granted
35:20
credit for time served, which had already
35:22
been a year.
35:23
She was also released a year early for
35:26
good behavior, bringing her total time
35:28
incarcerated for the murder of the mother of three
35:30
to just five and a half years.
35:34
Dana's family were saddened and confused
35:36
by the verdict. Her father saying, quote,
35:39
it doesn't make sense.
35:40
Amanda, on the other hand, avoided charges
35:43
altogether in exchange for her testimony.
35:45
One local in a community forum said
35:48
that Amanda had feigned innocence, but
35:50
that she was just as guilty for covering
35:52
it up.
35:53
Which, I mean, obviously she
35:55
and her friend did rob
35:58
her dead aunt. right there, took all
36:00
of her money and ran out the door. So even though
36:03
she wasn't maybe wasn't involved in the
36:05
actual murder, she did.
36:06
Well, that's just her word. Yeah. That's the thing. She
36:09
did take all that money. Yeah, it's horrible.
36:11
And that's what sucks is that Amanda is
36:13
the one saying,
36:14
well, this is how it happened. And we don't know
36:17
if that's how it happened. Did you really just stand by and
36:19
close your eyes? Did you watch it? Did you help?
36:21
Like, I don't know, but it's just your
36:24
word against Emily's and Emily
36:27
isn't saying that Amanda had a bigger
36:29
part in it. But
36:30
it is frustrating that she kind of got off the hook
36:32
when she was standing right there, didn't interfere,
36:35
didn't call the cops on her own. And then
36:38
yeah, like stole from her aunt. It's
36:40
horrible. Yeah, it's terrible.
36:42
Well, they also claimed that she hadn't learned anything
36:45
from Dana's death and that her behavior
36:47
had not changed at all. But
36:51
here's the thing. Emily was released from
36:53
prison in 2008 and she
36:55
has since married, changed her last
36:57
name and had children of her own. And
37:00
she still resides in the Tacoma area.
37:03
Meanwhile, Dana's own children
37:05
have to grow up without their loving, supportive
37:08
and wonderful mother.
37:19
Thank
37:19
you so much, everybody, for listening to this
37:21
episode of Going West. Yes,
37:23
thank you guys so much for listening to this episode.
37:25
And on Friday, we'll have an all new case for you
37:28
guys to dive into. Yes. And
37:30
thank you again to Hussein for recommending
37:32
today's case. This was just such a senseless
37:35
one that really took, like I said earlier
37:37
in the beginning, a very unexpected
37:39
turn. Yeah,
37:40
I think all of us kind of
37:42
imagine that one of those three guys was
37:44
going to be responsible for Dana's murder.
37:46
And it just it ended up being her
37:49
niece's friend.
37:50
Yeah, like, what case have we ever covered
37:53
where somebody has a controlling boyfriend
37:55
and a stalker and they're
37:58
murdered and an ex-husband and
38:00
they're murdered and none of those people did it. I
38:03
mean, it's unheard of. But such
38:05
a tragic story. Thank you guys so much for tuning
38:07
into this one.
38:08
Also, guys, I wanted to
38:10
say that for all you patrons
38:12
out there or all you Apple subscribers, we
38:15
are gonna be coming out with the bonus
38:17
episode this week. And
38:19
so stay tuned for that. Also, if you are
38:22
looking for more episodes of Going West,
38:24
you can subscribe to our Patreon.
38:27
That's patreon.com slash goingwestpodcast.
38:29
Or you can head over to Apple and
38:31
you can subscribe for bonus episodes there.
38:34
Yeah, a lot of people ask if there's a difference. There's
38:36
not. The only difference is that on Patreon,
38:38
there's two tiers. You can do the $5 tier, you
38:41
get the entire back catalog of that
38:44
tier, which is like, I don't know, maybe
38:46
over 60 episodes. And you get
38:48
one a month. Whereas the other tier
38:50
is the $10 tier, you get almost 100 episodes
38:53
and two a month. But on Apple, there's
38:55
no tier option. So we can only offer
38:58
the $10 subscription for two a month. So
39:00
that's the only difference.
39:01
Yeah, I don't really know why they don't
39:03
add tiers to their subscription process. They
39:06
said they're working on it. We shall see. But
39:08
both are great options if you want more
39:10
episodes. If not, we will see you on Friday.
39:13
All right, guys. So for everybody
39:15
out there in the world. Don't be a stranger.
40:00
you
Podchaser is the ultimate destination for podcast data, search, and discovery. Learn More