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What is going on? True Crime fans?
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I'm your host Steve and I'm your host Daphne,
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and you're listening it to going west
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days case is happening
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right now in June of 2022.
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And the suspect has been identified,
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but is still at large. So
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we please ask that everyone share the
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stories, help spread the on Mariah's case,
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and catch her killer and
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big. Thank you to Robin and Mike for
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sending this in. So you all suggested it. We
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appreciate it. And I've been following the story and
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it's just crazy. And i i believe that the
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suspect is still at large. It's been
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what now. Three weeks is such
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a devastating story and it just really,
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really needs just as so you
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in may have twenty twenty two
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the twenty five year old elite for cyclists
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traveled to have
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way but after hanging
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out with another cyclist and previous
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the interests of hers she
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was murdered
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when police sorted through the evidence at the scene
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they began to believe that the girlfriend
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of the man the victim had just hung
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out with was most likely
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behind the killing the
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more they can issue a warrant for her arrest
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she had already fled his estate
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every story of mariah wilson
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and the search for caitlin armstrong
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mariah wilson who went by mariah
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and also mow was born
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on may eighteenth ninety ninety six
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to parents karen and eric wilson
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in a little thin at new hampshire
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which is a very small but charming
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and picturesque town on the connecticut
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river and just on the other side of this
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river is the state of vermont so
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actually mariah and her brother matthew
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grew up on the other side of the river in
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vermont and more specifically in
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even smaller countryside town of kirby
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which currently has a population of five
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hundred people during
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childhood mariah was an alpine ski
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are also known as downhill skiing
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and she placed third in the two thousand
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and thirteen us junior national
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championship downhill events
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when she was about sixty years old another
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passion of hers was biking and she
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started begging at a very young
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age you know like most of us but she
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took it a little more seriously and
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it's due to growing up in beautiful
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rural vermont it she spent a lot
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of her time biking on the kingdom flails
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which made her a strong and skilled cyclist
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this time in our teenage years
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she was attending the burke mountain academy
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which is a nearby private school that actually
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educates and trains it's students
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in alpine ski racing so sounds
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like a the school to go to yeah definitely
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after graduating in two thousand and fourteen mariah
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headed if to dartmouth college the
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ivy league university in new hampshire and
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began studying engineering that
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even though she was working towards her bachelor
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in engineering which the received in two thousand
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and nineteen she was still extremely
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passionate about biking so
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well she hard at work in college
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the simultaneously becoming a professional
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bike racer and she
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was a member of the alpine ski team
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at dartmouth so she was just extremely
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active overall definitely
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the once more i received her bachelors
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and engineering and two thousand and nineteen she
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went full force into pursuing her athletic
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dreams as an elite bike racer
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specifically and gravel and mountain race
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well she was winning awards and raising her way
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to the top literally and figuratively
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she was also working for specialized
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bicycle components which is a company
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that manufactures and markets bicycles
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and mariah was working as he demanded
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planner and the california bay area
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and by the way specialized is like a very popular
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biking brand yesterday and an amateur a
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lot of guys know that the
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her life was baking but
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she also had other hobbies and interests
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like traveling especially to italy
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going on with her friends cooking
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and writing and regarding her personality
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it's safe to say that she was a go
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getter but she was also known as a very
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generous and loving person
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this point in time mariah was living
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in san francisco but she was competing
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all over and california for
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the belgian waffle ride which she
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won in early may have twenty twenty two
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then to colorado where she finished second
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at the leadville trail one hundred empty
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be and then finally to austin
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texas to compete in the one
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hundred and fifty seven miles
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rabble logos race so she
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was really out there just making a name for herself
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and racing
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and although she wasn't living in vermont anymore
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twenty five year old mariah wilson had plans
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to return and not just to return
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but to make an impact on her community
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she quit her job at specialized in plan
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to move back to east burke vermont
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the greed a local community space where
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other bikers could gather and
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have a nice cup of coffee or a delicious
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locally sourced meal but
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something tragic would happen
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in austin texas before
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she could work towards this goal
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first let's briefly discuss
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who mariah had been kind of dating
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late last there and twenty twenty one
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hall and strickland is also
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an elite bicyclists be he's almost
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ten years older than mariah as it currently
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are currently thirty five years old whereas
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mariah would have just turned to six
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had she made it to her birthday a couple weeks
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the go in may in another the
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age gap is a big issue i'm just let
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me just now so calling was born
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and raised in texas where he grew up on
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a farm just that of austin and
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he to begin biking and and or the age
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my high school calling with cycling just
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about everywhere and after earning
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a degree and working in con starvation
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until he was twenty four his
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cycling career really began to take
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off and he was winning lots
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of awards in championships just
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like mariah had been doing but of course
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he had been doing it about ten years longer than
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she had so he was more advanced
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and more high profile and gravel racing
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if it isn't obvious mariah was really paving
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her so the successful career in the sport
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to so mariah and call
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and met through cycling and appeared
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the only dated for one to two
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weeks according to call and while
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he and his girlfriend caitlin armstrong
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were on a break in the fall
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of two thousand twenty one when
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they were not on this break last
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fall and twenty twenty one and poland and
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caitlin who is a thirty five
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year old yoga instructor and independent
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real estate contractor had been dating
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for three years but in october
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of twenty twenty one and their relationship
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briefly ended
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so during this break thirty four
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year old call in and twenty five year old
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mariah who already knew each other
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begin a romantic relationship and caitlin
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found out so caitlin called
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mariah on the phone and explained that
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she was dating call him and that they
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had a long term relationship
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calling continued to briefly pursue
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mariah and actually changed her name
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in his phone so the caitlin wouldn't
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see as well as deleting text
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between the two of them it wasn't
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long before caitlin figure this out and blocked
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mariah is number three poland's
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phone and then colon and caitlin got
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back together guess so with it
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seems like this break was maybe not a super
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serious break if they got right back together
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they had been dating for three years so
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yeah down the definitely makes sense in the
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you know obviously caitlin
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is very protective over their relationship
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so she's penalised
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the i didn't want mariah anywhere near
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call and right and she did not like
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the fact that mariah had
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seen it colin not that it's my
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fault during that time that they were on a plate
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is obviously it seems that caitlin wasn't
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ready to move on from call him rights
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and it's also unclear if he continued to see
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mariah on the sides and cohen has
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you know only admitted to having a short fling
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with her and the full of twenty twenty one
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that lasted only about one or two weeks as you mentioned
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however this wouldn't be the last
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time that the saw each other anyway in
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may have twenty twenty two caitlin armstrong
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and colin stricklin were fully
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back together and living with each other at
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a house in austin texas
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well mariah was in town for the gravel
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locos competition that was set
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to take place on may fourteenth twenty
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twenty two the actually met up
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and i do wanna say they had seen
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each other at other races
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over the months so it's not like this is the first
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time they're seeing each other since they dated like
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they
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the work in the same industry and our right
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and just to reiterate at this point caitlin
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and call in our back together they're
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in a relationship that appears to be solid
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right and because of that this
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could have been a totally platonic meet up
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but either way on wednesday
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may eleventh twenty twenty two i
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was staying at her friend caitlin cash
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his house and asked
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in the she mariah arrived
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austen the day before on may tenth
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twenty twenty two and was getting ready
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for the gravel locos race in heat
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though texas which is a two hour drive
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north often but she was
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staying at caitlin cash his house
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in austin and of course well listen
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austen call and via so
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on wednesday may eleventh two thousand twenty
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two of the hot day in austin texas
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with temperatures reaching ninety agreed
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fahrenheit or thirty two degrees celsius
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mariah texted caitlin cash
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the friend she was staying with explaining
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that she was going to meet up with her friend colin
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so they could go swimming together for
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mariah last caitlin went to
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her house to talk to mariah about
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her evening
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and and caitlin cash left at
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five thirty pm to go meet
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with her own friends for dinner dealing
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has a i'm using her phone in by the way because
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there's two caitlin the doubt order to caitlin
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the ah one with it in one with a c caitlin
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caches with a c but you guys can't
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see that so i'm gonna use last name for life link
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has has an election nick lock on
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her east austin houses door that
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is locked and unlocked using a code
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so she received a notification on
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her phone whenever it's locked and unlocked
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the when she received one at five fifty
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five pm and twenty five minutes after she
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left her house herself this indicated
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to her that mariah was heading out to meet
13:29
call it pick mariah up
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on the motorcycle that
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night the two headed to the deep
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the eddie swimming pool which is like a large
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historic outdoor swimming the war in austin
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that surrounded by trees and
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then then went to a nearby burger spot
13:45
and that places the pool berber witches
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and a cheeky themed with an airstream and
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it looks pretty hip conveniently named
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yeah at age sixteen
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pm and pay attention to the times we're
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gonna throw bunch of you eight sixteen
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pm mariah and calling
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it left on his motorcycle and
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arrived at caitlin caches house one
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he minutes later mariah
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returned to caitlin cash his house
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on at maple avenue at eight thirty
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six pm which is also twenty
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minutes after sunset and we
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know that for sure because that is when caitlin
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received a notification on her
14:22
phone at that the door was being on
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law
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so we have a definitive
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time here from when
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mariah got back yes because
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of this locke which is pretty convenient for
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for the timeline yeah absolutely though
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at this very same time that mariah
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was going into caitlin cash as house
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calling sense heat when armstrong
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his girlfriend a text message
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at eight thirty six pm that said
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quotes hey are you out
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i went to drop some flowers for allison
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at her son's house up north and
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my phone died heading home
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unless you have another food suggestion
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the would clear that colin is lying to her
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you know saying that he went to someone son's
15:04
house to drop flowers off and that
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his phone was dead when he was actually
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swimming and having burgers with mariah
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if i wonder if he turned his phone
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off that whole time so she couldn't track him as she
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does have it's tracker which is the invite caitlin
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armstrong would have that on call him absolutely
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name and we also don't know like
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you said at this point we don't know what the relationship
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is between mariah the
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and collins so it's like you said it could
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be put on eg it could be not
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platonic right but eat
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the way i think it and he even
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if it is platonic call in does not
15:35
want to be honest about seeing mariah with caitlin
15:38
because caitlin has
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this very aggressive view apparently
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of mariah because of the relationship
15:45
they had last fall so
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even if it was just friends caitlin would not be
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okay with that oh definitely oh that's
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a think either way he's gonna hi but that's
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that makes us wonder is a platonic
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romantic yeah yeah that's just
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the you know arena the question i have right
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let's get back to the timeline so just seven
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minutes later colin arrived home
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and caitlin armstrong wasn't there
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the we sent her another text then
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he went into the garage and began working
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on his bikes nine
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twenty one pm holland
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texted her again this
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time it had been almost you know fifty minutes
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since he had first texted her after
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dropping mariah off and just minutes
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later caitlin arrived home
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and her jeep cherokee that
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same evening just seven days
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before her twenty six birthday mariah
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was found shot to death and her
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friend caitlin caches home when
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i returned home from an evening out with friends
16:44
just before ten pm when
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she tragically discovered mariah wilson
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bleeding and unconscious from
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multiple gunshot wounds and
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she was lying on her bathroom floor
16:56
and nine fifty six pm caitlin
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task frantically called police
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responded to the scene within minutes and
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perform cpr on mariah but
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sadly she was pronounced dead
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at the scene
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the immediately it didn't appear that
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mariah is murder had been random
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but it was also obvious that it was a homicide
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because there was no firearm left at the scene
17:19
however mariah his bike appeared
17:21
to be stolen initially it's but
17:23
it was found it sixty eight feet
17:26
from caitlin caches home and
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concealed in thick bamboo
17:30
like as if someone had tried to hide it not
17:32
steal it may be the
17:34
new in cash only had that chronic
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locke which again proved to be helpful
17:39
in creating a timeline a mirage evening
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but there was no security footage outside her house
17:44
she didn't have a doorbell camera or anything like
17:46
that birds that
17:48
their wives surveillance from a ring
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cameras outside a home
17:53
near by and we did poster the
17:55
edge on our social three that to see the
17:58
on his footage it shows eight
18:00
twenty six pm so ten
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minutes before mariah got
18:04
back to caitlin caches house a
18:07
dark colored s u v is seen
18:09
driving on caitlin caches street
18:12
then eleven minutes later
18:14
when it's visibly more dark outside at
18:16
a thirty seven pm which is
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just one minute after mariah
18:20
entered caitlin caches home the
18:23
same as you see is seen driving
18:25
on her street know the
18:27
eerie thing about this about this
18:30
home with ring camera was right
18:32
next to caitlin south and across the street
18:35
in a footage you can see the as see the
18:37
slow down when it gets to caitlin
18:39
house and then stop right
18:41
next to caitlin cells are like partially
18:43
in front of it unfortunately
18:45
you don't see the person acts said or see
18:48
anything that happens at caitlin home
18:51
because it's just out of view the
18:53
vehicle was fairly distinctive because
18:55
it had a large bicycle rack mounted
18:58
on the trailer hitch and it was clear really
19:00
a jeep cherokee and who drives
19:03
a jeep cherokee we shall get to that
19:06
this indicated to police that whoever
19:08
killed mariah had to likely been driving
19:10
that vehicle so they got
19:12
to work they also made
19:14
sure to question call and immediately knowing
19:17
that he had been the last person to see her
19:19
and as we will discuss later they questioned
19:21
him the next day
19:23
of course you know this was just an incredibly
19:25
unthinkable scenario for mariah
19:28
his family who loved her so dearly
19:30
for family was so proud of who she was
19:33
and who she was supposed to be calm meaning
19:35
this must have been have profound loss
19:37
for them especially considering mariah
19:39
was only twenty five years old the
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held a private burial service for her at
19:44
the kirby cemetery with a
19:46
local reverend their to officiate
19:49
the also set up a go fund me for the purpose
19:52
of raising money to help fund community
19:54
organizations that help you
19:56
find self confidence strength
19:58
and joy through viking skiing
20:01
and other activities that mariah was so
20:03
passionate about their goal
20:05
is set it too hundred and fifty thousand dollars
20:08
in it currently sits above one hundred
20:10
and seventeen thousand dollars so if
20:12
you'd like to donate like we did click the
20:14
link in the description of this episode
20:16
it's definitely a great cause and will help
20:18
mariah his legacy live on in her community
20:21
her family made the following statement to the
20:23
media quote we are
20:25
absolutely devastated by the loss
20:27
of are beautiful daughter and sister
20:30
anna mariah wilson there
20:32
are no words that can express the pain
20:35
and suffering that works spearing sing
20:37
due to this senseless tragic loss
20:40
they also stated that the time of her death that
20:42
it was known to those closest to mariah
20:45
that she wasn't in a romantic relationship
20:47
with anyone
20:49
after mri is murder neighbors
20:51
were questioned and one neighbor had
20:53
something interesting to say for
20:55
reference it appears that caitlin lived
20:57
in a duplex that's caitlin cash
21:00
yeah killing cash are hints the
21:02
caves looking at her address online
21:05
appears like a multi bedroom house that she
21:07
lived in unit the shelf it seems
21:09
there are two houses connected to
21:11
each other though it is referred to as an apartment
21:14
it just doesn't appear to be one to me but instead
21:16
a duplex i guess it doesn't matter but apartment
21:18
to me the kind of insinuates
21:21
that there are multiple people living in this building
21:23
any of the like they were just caitlin
21:25
cash and then her neighbor who was also
21:27
her landlord the out
21:29
between eight thirty pm and now
21:32
thirty pm when mariah was killed
21:34
the landlord who lived next door was
21:36
home and heard noises from their
21:38
garage though
21:41
he was in the garage when he heard
21:43
what sounded like someone running downstairs
21:46
and into the alley next to their
21:48
homes don't want startled
21:50
by this he look the under the partially
21:53
raise garage door that he was in and
21:55
saw someone riding a bicycle
21:58
down the alley which is where riot
22:00
bike was later found conceal when
22:03
killing has arrived home around in hour
22:05
and a half after mariah was shot
22:08
he noticed that the door to her home
22:10
was unlocked and at ten
22:12
ten pm mariah was
22:14
pronounced dead at the scene
22:18
now colin stricklin released this statement
22:20
on social media after mri as murder
22:23
i'm reeling from grieving mo wilson's
22:26
death and from the facts that have emerged
22:28
during the investigation i
22:30
cannot begin to imagine the pain the
22:33
by most family and her close friends
22:36
there's no way to adequately express regret
22:39
and torture i feel about my proximity
22:41
to this horrible crime i'm
22:44
sorry and i simply cannot make
22:46
sense of this unfathomable tragedy
22:49
although it will be a matter of small consolation
22:51
to anyone else who cared for mo i
22:53
want you to know that i have cooperated fully
22:56
with investigators ever since i learned
22:58
the terrible news and i will continue
23:00
to do so until some form of
23:02
justice is served the
23:05
point of clarification to sacks previously
23:07
reported mariah wilson and
23:09
i had a brief romantic relationship
23:12
from late october to early november
23:14
of twenty twenty one that spanned a
23:16
week or so while wilson was visiting
23:19
austin at the time she
23:21
and i had both recently ended relationships
23:24
he returned her home in california and
23:27
about a month later caitlin armstrong
23:29
and i reconciled and resumed our
23:31
relationship since then
23:34
i often saw though it's cycling events
23:36
and always in public settings
23:39
we both competed in bentonville arkansas
23:42
still water and monterey california
23:45
after a brief relationship in october
23:47
of twenty twenty one twenty were not
23:49
in a romantic relationship the
23:51
only a platonic and professional one
23:54
it would normally and the to pursue along
23:57
and auxiliary romantic relationship
23:59
that would miss lead any one mariah
24:01
and i were both leaders in this lonely
24:04
nice sport of cycling and i
24:06
admired her greatly and considered
24:08
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admit it you please the purchase
25:58
firearms for both the and
26:00
his girlfriend caitlin one for each
26:02
of them between december of twenty
26:04
twenty one and the january of twenty
26:07
twenty two just five months before
26:09
mariah murder and i cannot find
26:12
why the purchases if there was a
26:14
reason if they just people bike for
26:16
whatever reason maybe there was no particular reason
26:18
be home protection right they know
26:20
he just either didn't mention it urges
26:22
not online the police were
26:24
able to determine that the vehicle spotted
26:27
in the ring camera why
26:29
caitlin armstrong's twenty twelve
26:31
jeep cherokee after the visited
26:34
caitlin and collins home on may
26:36
twelfth the day after the murder
26:39
also at their home police found it
26:41
to nine millimeter guns
26:44
as springfield armory for calling and
26:46
a six star for caitlin and
26:48
after exam the showcases found
26:50
at the scene and they were compared
26:53
to one of the guns that call and had purchased
26:55
the sig sauer for caitlin and
26:57
quote the potential that the
26:59
same firearm with the all the are
27:01
significant so this means
27:04
a lot here it does does
27:06
police are basically saying
27:08
it appears that caitlin
27:10
firearm was used to murder mariah
27:13
yeah so now we have you on tape
27:15
your car at least on tape and
27:18
we know that you have a gun and
27:20
we could connect the casing to that
27:22
gun dagger that name right sig sauer sour
27:25
you know what i'm not i'm not a gun person
27:27
but if somebody out there you can correct
27:29
that i'm sorry i never got a wrong i'm so sorry i'm
27:32
not going to say it again though so it is a minor detail
27:34
police were able to question both calling
27:37
and caitlin it that day and
27:39
after determining that the vehicle seen
27:41
on the ring camera was likely caitlin
27:44
the after about this and showed her the
27:46
evidence when told
27:48
them that she had no explanation
27:50
add as to why her car was in the
27:52
area and did not deny that
27:54
the hers so she didn't even have
27:57
a story for why her car would be there yeah
27:59
she was just like yes that is mine and ike
28:01
i have no explanation
28:03
she was being very as all explains
28:05
who's being very calm she wasn't going back
28:08
and forth she wasn't being erratic she was just kind
28:10
of thing the bare minimum the
28:13
when asked if she had heard about what
28:15
happened the previous evening a came
28:17
rise murder she nodded her
28:19
head and said that call and had told
28:21
her that a woman in the cycling community
28:24
is had passed away that's
28:26
putting it lightly well and is
28:27
a woman in the cycling community had passed away
28:30
you know whom are right in there are more i that search
28:32
your nose is that's so true though
28:34
she was apparently like
28:35
very still in her interview and actually
28:37
didn't move at all she was in fidgeting she was just
28:40
still as still as hell next
28:43
detective connor explain to caitlin
28:45
that call and had gone out with mariah
28:48
the previous evening and that
28:50
she must have been upset by that when
28:53
responded to this by turning her
28:55
head and angrily the rolling
28:57
her eyes proving his point then
29:00
she said quote hi i'm
29:03
not certain as even what you mean
29:05
or what he said because i didn't have
29:07
any idea that he saw or even
29:09
when out with this girl as
29:12
of recently
29:14
though detective hundred then told caitlin
29:16
that the fact that her car was spotted at the
29:18
scene in the fact that her boyfriend
29:20
had just gone out with the victim didn't
29:23
look too good and she nodded in
29:25
agreement and didn't speak he
29:28
was just you know still and very guarded
29:31
then caitlin armstrong requested
29:33
to leave and since they couldn't holder
29:35
at this point she was free to go the
29:38
next day which was may thirteenth
29:41
a friend of caitlin to disguise their name
29:43
as jane hold police
29:46
and explained that over the last
29:48
few months when it called
29:50
mariah on multiple occasions
29:53
then in one instance caitlin
29:55
told mariah that she had to stay
29:57
away from college so now she's threatening
29:59
mariah
30:00
and this is the to just for her to say or
30:02
this jane to say she
30:04
called are multiple times like this within the
30:06
seems like it was in shoo for caitlin
30:08
that mariah with even the existing
30:11
yeah it was
30:12
then the next day on may fourteenth
30:15
twenty twenty two so just under three
30:17
days after mariah is murder and
30:19
anonymous person called the austin police
30:21
department and said that she was with
30:23
caitlin armstrong in january
30:26
when she discovered that call him was
30:28
still having a romantic relationship
30:30
with mariah two months after
30:33
they had allegedly ended things in november
30:35
twenty twenty one of
30:37
course since cohen publicly stated that
30:39
they were not seeing each other romantically
30:42
this can't be confirmed but it's definitely
30:44
possible that they were still seeing each other
30:46
romantically and maybe collins's the
30:48
didn't want to publicly admit this for the sake
30:51
of his imaging career that
30:53
the color explained to the austin police
30:56
that when caitlin learned that they were still
30:58
potentially seeing each other she
31:00
became furious and was
31:02
visibly seeking an anger
31:06
when armstrong allegedly told this anonymous
31:08
person that she was so angry
31:10
that she wanted to kill mariah and
31:13
then spoke about a firearm purchase
31:16
this point in time mariah sent this text
31:19
message to call hey
31:21
it so i would like to talk to you at
31:23
some points i'd originally texted
31:26
you on friday but appears my text aren't
31:28
going through again this weekend
31:30
was strange for me and i just wanna know what's going
31:32
on if you just want to be friends
31:35
seems to be the case then that's cool
31:38
but i'd like to talk about it because honestly
31:40
my mind has been going in circles and i
31:42
don't really know what to think in
31:44
response to this taxed colin
31:46
wrote quotes hey mo i feel
31:49
very shitty for putting you in a position where
31:51
you don't feel comfortable he
31:53
wouldn't came along to go to a meeting about the
31:55
sprinter spartan hotel project
31:57
in hindsight that was not a good idea
32:00
so it does seem like in january at least
32:02
mariah was wondering maybe call
32:04
him was kind of leading her on and she's kind of saying
32:06
hey are we are we something or
32:08
are you know this weekend was awkward because
32:11
probably because caitlin armstrong was there so
32:13
are you with her are you with me what's going on i just
32:15
want to talk about it yeah i kind of seems like
32:17
he is between the two of them a little bit outlawing
32:20
yeah totally the although the crime
32:22
of murder is much more serious than larceny
32:25
caitlin armstrong does have a charge against
32:27
her from two thousand and eighteen that we just want to
32:29
briefly mention on march
32:31
sixth two thousand eighteen at the
32:33
or then thirty when you're old caitlin armstrong
32:36
receive a six hundred and fifty dollar
32:38
botox procedure and a spot
32:40
in westlake texas after
32:42
the procedure she went to use her master
32:45
card at the reception desk but
32:47
then she said that she would per for to use
32:49
a different card instead though
32:52
she said she had another card in her vehicle
32:54
outside and said she would go out and
32:56
retriever and be right back but she
32:58
never returned leaving
33:00
her mouth the card on the counter the
33:03
mastercard even at her name on it and
33:05
the medspa had the photos of
33:07
her for the procedure and
33:09
they had other information on file for her
33:11
including her date of birth and more so
33:13
she the ding dong i mean yeah that was very
33:15
a silly thing to do thinking she could just get away with
33:18
not paying even though they know executives yes
33:20
yes so with that she was charged
33:22
with larceny within the coming weeks
33:25
because this med spot did press
33:27
charges when calling
33:29
was questioned by police which he
33:31
didn't have to do any voluntarily went
33:33
down to the station without a lawyer he
33:35
also mentioned that he hasn't seen
33:38
or spoken to caitlin armstrong
33:40
since may thirteen few
33:42
days after mariah is murder and
33:44
since then caitlin has
33:47
deleted all of her social media
33:49
accounts and is still at large
33:51
so it's kind of crazy because this
33:53
is his girlfriend and he hasn't seen
33:55
her since mid may yeah he just
33:58
left more he was saying this at the time
34:00
there will be hidden just say that yes or no i know but
34:02
yeah like he he doesn't know where she is
34:04
either so he said and
34:06
the only social media account that
34:08
it appears she did not delete is
34:10
strother which is an online cycling
34:13
and fitness platform and that
34:15
shows that she last cycled
34:17
on may eleventh the day
34:19
mariah was killed because as will go into
34:22
she did cycle just as a hobby here
34:25
is what we do know about caitlin
34:27
that whereabouts no before
34:29
caitlin it was officially being considered
34:32
a suspect she boarded a flight
34:35
from the austin bergstrom international
34:37
airport in austin you
34:39
are nearby houston at at twelve
34:41
thirty pm on may four
34:44
key and twenty twenty two
34:46
and one she landed in houston caitlin
34:49
got a connecting flight alone
34:51
to the laguardia airport in new york
34:54
the southwest airline there
34:56
are photos of her at the austin airport
34:59
that have been released and we posted them so
35:01
she's holding a yoga mat and wearing
35:03
a black face mask white
35:06
pants a denim jackets
35:08
and her hair is pulled back like
35:10
half of it is pull back and the other half is down
35:13
and she also had a blue backpack on
35:15
her back after
35:17
she landed outlook florida in queens
35:19
new york that same day the
35:22
already is a admitted that they quotes
35:24
kind of lost the track the
35:27
actually considering she was three days ahead
35:29
of police she had deleted social
35:31
media and doesn't appear to have her cellphone
35:34
he could be anywhere and definitely
35:36
could have altered her appearance so
35:38
let's talk about this like it really seems
35:40
like after she was questioned by police
35:42
and was presented evidence of her car
35:45
being at the scene and then her
35:47
gun was taken for evidence processing she
35:49
probably knew that they were on to her and decided
35:52
the only way out was to run
35:54
yeah i mean yeah they literally have
35:57
like the murder yeah and i mean i
35:59
am so the surprised that she is still
36:01
by the way still on the run because
36:04
the last time we saw anything like this was
36:06
when brian laundry with on the rhine last
36:08
year so i just hope this
36:10
has a better outcome because it's just so unclear
36:13
how this is going to end yeah i
36:15
mean she could be anywhere
36:17
in the world right now yeah can we will
36:19
get into the updates as well guys also
36:22
regarding the actual murder so keeling
36:25
would have had to know that
36:27
mariah and call and were hanging out
36:29
that night if she was outside
36:31
mariah his friends house before
36:34
mariah even got back to the house because
36:36
remember there is footage of her car on
36:38
that street minutes before
36:41
mariah even got they are you know act
36:43
as her car with seen it first at
36:46
age twenty six pm
36:48
so that's eleven minutes before
36:50
more i got home though maybe she
36:52
saw recent tax between
36:54
colon and mariah or something and then potentially
36:56
followed call into the area when he went
36:59
to pick up mariah and that's when she
37:01
saw them together and decided
37:02
what you're going to do or it's
37:04
possible that you know
37:06
she had like the find my friends app
37:08
and she was tracking where call
37:11
and was
37:11
but it seems like the remember how he said his phone
37:13
died so i wonder if he did
37:16
maybe he didn't turn it off until after he
37:18
got to the house through good only maybe
37:20
he forgot to turn off his phone that
37:22
also colin had said
37:24
that he always deleted tax between a
37:26
his phone and mariah so that
37:28
caitlin wouldn't see that
37:31
also makes me wonder well how would she have seen
37:33
text between them so how the hell did caitlin
37:35
even know what was going
37:37
on and where to find mariah another
37:39
possible
37:42
the whole thing is that she could
37:44
have followed call in when he
37:46
left that day that's what i'm thinking i wanted
37:48
only only his suit says scenario
37:50
is how the hell would see know where that way
37:52
yeah and also the colon had said that caitlin
37:55
would not have known where mariah was staying
37:58
and she didn't know anyone in the air
38:00
yeah of caitlin caches house so it's not like
38:02
she does happen to be there she had
38:04
to have been there for this purpose you
38:06
know that yet reason yeah she was there
38:08
she plans to sell so as restated
38:10
as restated was questioned on may twelfth
38:12
twenty twenty two and as of may
38:15
thirteenth colin states that
38:17
he didn't see her again and then on may
38:19
fourteenth she boarded a plane to new
38:21
york the warrant for her arrest
38:23
was not issued until may
38:25
seventeenth so five days after
38:28
she was question what a magistrate
38:30
authorized a warrant under murder charges
38:33
in relation to the shooting murder of
38:35
twenty five year old mariah wilson q
38:38
and father is spoken to the media about zealand's
38:40
involvement and he doesn't think
38:42
that she did this michael
38:44
armstrong claims that he knows caitlin
38:46
didn't do this because he isn't capable
38:49
of murder he spoke to good morning
38:51
america recently and said quotes i
38:53
know her i know how she thinks
38:56
and i know what she believes then
38:58
i know that she just would not do
39:00
something like this i know her
39:02
i know her he was
39:04
then asked what he thinks about the police as theory
39:07
that she did it and he said quote that
39:09
is what they believe i know that
39:12
she did not do this there are a lot
39:14
of unanswered questions he
39:16
then addresses caitlin herself and says
39:19
well we love you katie and
39:21
we're going to figure this out
39:23
i just wonder how he is so sure especially
39:26
with all the evidence because we know that call
39:28
and had taken mariah back to her friend's house
39:30
at the a motorcycle and his phone
39:32
was tracked going back to his house right
39:35
away where he remained for the evening
39:37
so he couldn't have written back to the
39:39
house gone into caitlin armstrong's
39:42
car and then went back to the scene
39:45
the uk on cash his house to murder
39:47
mariah especially since again
39:50
caitlin armstrong his jeep cherokee
39:52
with seen approaching the house before
39:54
they even got their cells if
39:57
it wasn't caitlin and it was in poland
39:59
then who they don't like and why would caitlin
40:01
be on the run and delete all for socials
40:04
if she's innocent and yeah see
40:06
that doesn't make any sense at
40:08
all and and i'm sorry i'm not trying to be an asshole
40:10
but i just
40:12
i just don't billiard i had a father the father
40:14
is just these in denial she's in denial
40:17
of what's going on right now because they have
40:19
a murder weapon they saw her car mariah
40:21
didn't have any enemies that
40:23
anybody knew of there's
40:25
just no other possibility here i do understand
40:28
why it michael armstrong is saying this
40:30
of course this is his daughter how can he
40:32
let himself believe that his daughter would
40:34
murder somebody i fully get it and i do sympathize
40:36
with him because
40:37
this has gotta be an emotional time for him as well
40:40
you never want to believe that as a parent absolutely
40:42
by i don't i just don't agree personally
40:45
and also i know in some cases
40:47
people run as because they know
40:49
they look guilty and they really didn't do
40:52
it but with all the evidence they have
40:54
here i don't see how this
40:56
murder would not have been carried out by caitlin
40:58
armstrong also at a time
41:00
we're releasing this episode of she has been on
41:02
the run for twenty four
41:04
days that's a long time yeah
41:06
that alone for nobody to have seen the
41:09
i just wonder where she could be because
41:11
in this day and age it's so hard to
41:13
stay hidden when people are looking for you because
41:15
of the internet and how easy this to share
41:17
a photo and then like every eight cm
41:19
has a camera and that can be tracked
41:22
anyway and you need an id to stay
41:24
at hotels and there's cameras all over the place
41:26
so you cannot imagine how
41:28
she has been hiding in the
41:30
or around new york or anywhere else like
41:32
how does she have honey weary she's
41:34
sleeping is there so many questions
41:37
yeah you would think that she would have to have
41:39
a credit card or debit card or something like a
41:41
big ideas yeah it must resist
41:43
paying for everything with cash which i guess
41:45
you you could do it did look
41:47
to see if there's any kind of trace that before
41:50
the murder happened she went to an eighty am
41:52
and took out of a lot of money but i didn't find
41:54
anything like that so does that mean she's
41:56
been planning and there's just
41:58
it's so hard to figure but at
42:00
the end of the day it's been almost a month and
42:03
it there has to be some kind of way that she
42:05
is out there somewhere
42:07
yeah i'm going unseen and living
42:10
yeah and we are just you know in the midst
42:13
of what is happening here yeah absolutely
42:15
self also a little more about caitlin
42:18
and her relationship with call and the
42:20
they previously had a business together
42:22
and i think they they still quote still
42:25
trying to do and it's centered around
42:27
like designing and bill being a vintage
42:30
trailers for their company called wheelhouse
42:32
mobile this website
42:35
had previously stated quotes hollins
42:38
partner and financial guru caitlin
42:40
armstrong let him to realize
42:42
that they could build this into something much
42:44
greater than a one off passion project
42:47
this website was active
42:49
until caitlin went on the run
42:52
and since she deleted all of her social media
42:54
accounts it appears he also took
42:56
down at their website for their business
42:59
which is kinda weird to me i by by
43:01
think that's gonna od i wonder why just maybe
43:03
she just thought it might be another way that somebody
43:05
could connect her to something right i'm
43:08
feeling use the cycle like i said it but
43:10
she can have put biking aside and focus
43:12
more on yoga and becoming
43:14
a realist the contractor though it appears
43:16
she does still bike is a big hobby the she
43:18
doesn't do it competitively other
43:21
than as we know that she was born on november
43:23
twenty first nineteen eighty seven in
43:26
livonia miss again at to
43:28
her father michael but her mother's name
43:30
is still unknown publicly though
43:32
a friend explain that her mother had an
43:34
alcohol addiction and wasn't really
43:36
in her life the she
43:38
eventually moved to santa monica california
43:40
in her early twenties and then relocated
43:43
to austin texas in two thousand and seventeen
43:46
to live with her sister he
43:48
also has a brother who apparently had some
43:50
addictions as well and caitlin
43:52
was passionate about getting him on the
43:54
other side of that and even bringing
43:56
him into the trailer the next to help influence
43:59
him that that's pretty much all we know about tailing
44:02
yeah there's not a whole lot
44:03
the according to a friend of both colon and
44:05
thailands name's david caitlin
44:08
begin working in real estate after the coven
44:10
nineteen pandemic affected her yoga
44:12
career but she was doing very well for
44:14
herself and owns three rental properties
44:17
and she was also very smart with money
44:19
and was the accounts payable manager
44:21
for the wheelhouse mobile business that
44:23
see and call and also had with
44:25
her friend david you
44:28
set up the website as well and david
44:30
also said that she always kept busy
44:33
they also added quote with this
44:35
girl there was not one red
44:37
flag not one no
44:39
rage drama nothing
44:41
nothing showed out over the last year
44:44
and that tells me that there's something buried so
44:46
deep that mo being in town
44:48
lit the wick to everything
44:50
that was suppressed prior to that
44:52
will this also makes me wonder if
44:54
she had spent the months between january
44:56
and may planning to kill
44:59
mariah if she ever was seen
45:01
with call and again since her friend
45:03
who had called of with the tip of
45:05
said that she allegedly say that that she wanted
45:07
to kill mariah back in january of twenty twenty
45:10
two so i think about all the things
45:12
that it would take to the off the radar when
45:14
you're being hunted by law enforcement the an f
45:16
b i and a public and how i
45:18
don't think that she could have sorted out a plan
45:20
like this in less than two
45:22
the yeah so she might have
45:24
been planning for this for quite some time
45:26
right the you and
45:29
murray armstrong is five feet
45:31
eight inches tall has reddish
45:33
brown hair hazel eyes
45:35
and weighs approximately one hundred and twenty five
45:38
pounds we urge everyone
45:40
to look at photos of her which you
45:42
can find on our so souls or online
45:45
and call the austin police if
45:47
you spot her anywhere
45:49
the most recent news on this
45:51
case us marshals have sent
45:53
a public page two caitlin
45:55
armstrong the asking her to surrender
45:58
stating quote hum for
46:00
word surrender to authorities
46:02
it's just a matter of time we're
46:04
working day in and day out
46:07
we'd like to safely bring you into custody
46:09
so you can have your day and court and
46:11
kelly your side of the story at
46:15
this point caitlin is considered
46:17
armed and dangerous and after
46:19
police initially notice her jeep cherokee
46:21
at their home and then it has
46:24
been missing alongside her as
46:26
we know she was last spotted at the laguardia
46:29
airport since she flew there from texas so
46:31
it doesn't seem like she could have possibly take
46:33
it or car with her wherever she went though
46:35
investing after believe that the whereabouts
46:38
of her car could be the porch and
46:40
and noted to the public that she may
46:42
be traveling in it again
46:44
it's a black two thousand and twelve
46:46
at jeep cherokee and her texas
46:49
a license plate is l
46:51
d zero five say zero
46:54
eight the day
46:56
before this episode releases the day we're
46:58
recording it caitlin armstrong
47:00
was allegedly spotted on me
47:03
eighteen to twenty twenty two
47:05
at the newark new jersey airport this news
47:07
came out this morning so the day before we're
47:09
we're releasing it this
47:12
is one day after the warrant
47:14
for her arrest was issued and four
47:16
days after she flew into their
47:18
laguardia airport in new york
47:21
here is the official statement from the
47:23
us marshals twitter quotes the
47:26
us marshals lone star fugitive
47:28
task force has learned that caitlin
47:30
marie armstrong was dropped
47:32
off at the newark liberty international
47:34
airport on may eighteen however
47:38
there were no it outbound flight reservations
47:41
under her name sound at all
47:43
which is leading investigators to
47:45
think that she is using an alias
47:48
what i'm wondering is how the person
47:50
who believes they spotted her knew
47:53
it was her like did she look the same
47:55
because if she is using an alias i
47:57
would assume she would also change for appear
48:00
and and killing doesn't have it's probably
48:02
unique look to her i'd say maybe her long
48:04
curly reddish hair is the most unique
48:06
standout trade a lot
48:08
of women look like her so did
48:11
she use an alias or was this
48:13
a case of mistaken identity and this
48:15
woman was not caitlin or
48:17
did she get dropped off to make it look like you're
48:20
going to the airport but then did and i mean
48:22
know each other so many questions yeah there's
48:24
a lot of different possibilities but again i
48:26
just want to see this license plate so that it
48:28
can stick in and your guys his head's
48:30
a little bit better sold her license
48:32
plate for that vehicle is vehicle d c
48:35
five six zero eight
48:37
the read them i see this is because it's possible
48:40
that she did fly somewhere
48:42
it's possible that she didn't but if
48:45
in fact they do find her car they could find clues
48:47
that could lead to her right what we
48:49
do know that she definitely got on a plane
48:51
because there's evidence of that and also there are
48:53
all those photos of her at the airport so we know
48:55
that she did fly to new york the
48:58
happening here is that this is still
49:00
on
49:00
the last three weeks ago that
49:02
she was in supposedly in
49:05
new jersey and it's the most
49:07
the center count as of now so authorities
49:10
are still very behind
49:12
and there hasn't yet been any footage
49:15
release or publicly discussed of
49:17
caitlin at the newark new jersey airport
49:19
which is why it's hard to even come from that term
49:22
then i think that's why this case need so
49:25
much more attention is because
49:27
the last sighting was weeks ago
49:29
i don't read yeah absolutely i think
49:32
you're so right and that's a big reason why we wanted to cover
49:34
this case because again the
49:36
fact that she is still at large
49:38
is mind blowing to me and the fact that
49:40
this the most recent account and it was three
49:42
weeks though is what
49:45
how so of i think maybe
49:48
yeah i know this is a really big story in the news and
49:50
a lot of you guys are probably heard about it but we
49:52
need test you know share more absolutely
49:54
i definitely agree cohen
49:57
stricklin himself as in hiding the
50:00
from police
50:01
caitlin for fear that he could be
50:03
in danger when
50:06
and collins friend david told
50:08
the media quote none of us can
50:10
sleep he's staying out of sight
50:12
until she's caught i do
50:14
know where he is but i'm not mentioning
50:16
were for his safety he's
50:19
not in texas he's got completely
50:21
out of dodge for anyone
50:23
out there who may see caitlin armstrong
50:26
the us marshals are asking that you call
50:28
one eight hundred three three
50:30
six zero one zero
50:33
two if you see her car
50:35
or have any information about her whereabouts
50:38
the sake of mariah his family we
50:41
hope that this case will be closing the
50:43
not don't get answers regarding be extremely
50:46
untimely marie the of mariah
50:48
wilson
50:56
march everybody for listening to this episode
50:58
the of going west think you
51:00
guys so much for listening to this episode and
51:02
on friday will have an all new case for you
51:04
guys to dive into
51:06
please again make sure you share this story
51:08
i can't even imagine how mariah family feels
51:10
right now we never likely killer as just
51:12
out there as eating police capture and
51:15
you know i'm i'm sure they really just one
51:17
hi film police can question her
51:19
and just figure out what the hell happened
51:22
yeah the most important thing you guys can do right
51:24
now is to just share
51:26
this episode
51:27
also we do of course post everything
51:29
on social media of you want to share our posts
51:32
which will include the include photos
51:34
of caitlin and mariah of course
51:37
i'm they do not just so that you can help
51:39
to spread a perv photos
51:41
out there
51:41
exactly the more her face is seen as
51:44
the more likely it is that somebody is going to recognize
51:46
her someone the reactors i mean this is all audio
51:48
of course oh it is
51:49
important a you guys know what she looks like because that
51:51
is the whole point that is the only way you'll
51:53
get caught so please please share
51:55
this episode think is a so much for listening thank
51:58
you again to robin and michael for combining
52:00
this case and we
52:01
hope there's closure ferry very sound or
52:04
guys so for everybody out there in there world
52:07
as don't be a stranger
52:30
he
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