Grow Up Not Old is a fun, lighthearted podcast series with longtime friends Michael Patrick and Paul Ledebur. We are two regular guys trying to live life with more purpose. We will be sharing stories of our own personal growth that has arisen from experiences in our past. We will be talking about fulfillment, careers, relationships, passions, leadership and anything else we care to dig into. We do not claim to have all the answers to life’s unending challenges but we hope these conversations can be of value to others as we share our struggles in trying to find our own way in the world. This show is dedicated to the life, compassion, and memory of Ron Silberstein. New episodes published every two weeks.