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3:03

Hi, I'm Julie Tussey of the

3:05

Julie Tussey Show podcast. And today

3:07

I have the privilege of interviewing

3:09

the wonderful and amazing Heather Robinson

3:12

of Half Size Me and

3:14

halfsizeme.com. Heather has lost 170 pounds and kept

3:16

it off for six years. She

3:21

has launched her own podcast, webinars

3:23

and website and a fantastic social

3:25

media support group as a

3:28

result of her success. She is

3:30

a weight loss coach and author, a

3:32

teacher, and most importantly, she is an

3:34

inspiration and encourager to many, many people

3:37

fighting to lose weight and become

3:39

fit and healthy. This

3:41

particular episode is being recorded

3:43

today as a result of the following

3:45

message. Hey, Heather.

3:48

Hey, Heather. My name is JJ

3:50

and I've been a listener for a few years. My

3:54

question for you is not really so much a question,

3:56

but more of a request. I

3:58

would love to... for

4:01

you to basically interview yourself. I

4:03

love the interview style

4:06

you do in your podcast. I

4:08

would love to hear more in depth of

4:10

your story. I mean I've been

4:12

a listener for a while so I've put bits and pieces

4:14

together but I would just really love

4:16

to hear from start to finish like what

4:18

you've been through, where you've

4:21

come from and so we can get the

4:23

full take. I'd love to hear that. Thanks for all you

4:25

do Heather. Well

4:28

that was a really great question and with

4:30

you on the line today Heather and we're

4:32

doing this podcast, I think it's a really

4:34

good idea since you've been doing your podcast

4:36

since 2012 that we do a recap program

4:40

for everybody. Everybody wants to know your

4:43

story so I put together some questions.

4:45

Are you game? I

4:47

am. I am here and I'm willing. You

4:52

got to give the masses what they want and

4:54

they are clamoring to know so much more about

4:56

you. The first question that I

4:58

came up with was of course we

5:01

announced that you've already lost 170 pounds

5:04

and you kept it off for six years

5:06

and that is such an amazing thing that

5:09

you have done. What is

5:11

the first memory that you have of

5:13

being aware of quote-unquote

5:16

weight like that you had weight? For

5:19

me the moment at which I can

5:21

remember it really thinking in that I

5:23

had an issue was I remember I

5:25

was in third grade and

5:28

I was in the cafeteria and

5:30

my maiden name began with smack

5:33

and the kids would call me Big

5:36

Mac, Thunder Thighs and

5:38

I made it like a

5:40

point of pride when kids wouldn't finish their

5:42

lunch in the cafeteria to offer to finish

5:44

it and so they kind of would just

5:47

start giving me their food and would

5:49

call me names and it was

5:51

weird it was like I was

5:54

young enough to I think not

5:56

understand that I Was in

5:58

this horrible cycle but yet. I felt

6:00

very bad about myself and I

6:03

remember having to wear sweatpants to.

6:05

School that year. That was like the first year

6:07

I could really remember. My size making

6:09

it to we're you know the biggest

6:11

size and my age group of clothing

6:13

wouldn't sit and hero is being called

6:15

all these names at school and I

6:17

was eating all these kids scraps on

6:20

their plates and I realized in that

6:22

moment I wasn't like everybody else. I

6:24

realize there was something about me when

6:26

it came to my body and my

6:28

eating and the fact they couldn't I

6:30

could eat and really not feel like

6:32

I needed to cut off point for

6:34

that that there was a problem and

6:36

I of course was way too. Much shorter

6:38

and and have the life skills they have now

6:40

to know what to do. With in

6:42

that moment I remember thinking to myself i'm

6:45

difference but I don't know how to fix

6:47

it. And. Why age where you

6:49

at that time has kind of like around

6:51

nine? Him? Ambrose? About nine or ten. Years

6:53

old in that timeframe. While.

6:56

He know so many of the children

6:58

today are fighting I think even more

7:00

so. But. That is so devastating.

7:02

That you first realize that you you

7:05

are quote unquote Difference: What do you

7:07

think the impact of weight was on

7:09

you Answer: Because you've lost a hundred

7:12

and seventy pounds That of course. Things.

7:15

Kind it escalated from there. Instead of getting

7:17

better, do talk about that a little bit.

7:20

Yeah. It just progressively got worse once

7:22

I started gaining weight. It was almost

7:24

like I didn't know how to turn

7:26

that valve off. I truly just year

7:28

to year with the I would look

7:30

at school pictures of myself and every

7:33

year I. Was just a little bit more

7:35

plump. A little bit more plump until I

7:37

was at that place of would. I recall

7:39

being obese as a kid and. From.

7:41

That point? Ice. I really didn't know how to stop

7:43

it. I didn't want to stop the weight gain. I

7:45

didn't know how. To control. My

7:48

eating behaviors I know is sneaking to get

7:50

through to wasn't like he was just the

7:52

meals I was eating at home or at

7:54

school. I mean any time I came. Across

7:57

Extra Queens or I found

7:59

money somewhere. There I was hoarding

8:01

it to go buy food at.

8:03

you know, like a little drugstore

8:05

convenience store. Any time I would

8:07

get an opportunity. I would be buying candy

8:09

or sweet. And it was not just

8:11

the food. Julie. I remember getting

8:13

a real rush just from the idea of

8:16

getting the money to get the food and

8:18

knowing that no one else knew I was

8:20

doing it. So when I look at my

8:22

behaviors as an adult you know, and I

8:24

was sitting there eating tons of food, been

8:27

using in my car and hiding the rappers,

8:29

it was that same exhilaration, that same feeling

8:31

of I'm doing something I have control over

8:33

and no one can stop me. and I

8:35

and I. I don't know if everybody can

8:38

relate to this, but I think in a

8:40

lot of ways when word tin and we

8:42

feel sense. Of Outta Control. In our personal

8:44

lives we will sometimes either very much restrict

8:46

our eating or maybe do it I was

8:49

doing with food as a way to have

8:51

a level of control the feel like we

8:53

have something that we do control in our

8:55

lives and that's what I very much. I

8:57

think when I reflect back and I look

9:00

at the high that I got from that

9:02

experience I realized it wasn't just. About the

9:04

food, it was more about that sense of control

9:06

I had. The you feel like get

9:08

it as a younger person or even as

9:11

you. Grew. Up and through

9:13

college was there. You think you were

9:15

feeding something emotional other than a high?

9:17

I Me: what do you think causes.

9:20

Fair. Enough. Yeah. For

9:22

most of us Thurs some seeing that were

9:24

either any could be sending like you know

9:26

in the Queen. We've talked about boundaries,

9:28

Learning healthy boundaries with food. I

9:30

never learned that I never learns

9:33

really boundaries. With relating to other

9:35

people, I was expected just to

9:37

do a give and do what

9:39

other people told me. As

9:41

if I wasn't allowed to say no in again when

9:43

you don't feel that sense of control. Over your

9:46

own decision making right Or your own.

9:48

Ability to make decisions for yourself. even something

9:50

as simple as giving your kid an option.

9:52

You do you want green beans or care?

9:54

It's like giving them some sense of decision

9:57

making in their life when all that's been

9:59

stripped away. A. We off search

10:01

for that but no doubt when I

10:03

look back at me. So she my

10:05

twenties my twenties were really difficult for

10:07

me because and and again, I don't

10:09

know if anyone can relate to this,

10:11

but when you transition, add your teams

10:13

and in your twenties, I oftentimes there's

10:15

a lot of ain't there because you're

10:17

trying to find your own as an

10:19

adult. and when you haven't had that

10:21

sense of connection to maybe a parent,

10:24

or you're longing for relationship that you

10:26

didn't get when you were a kid,

10:28

you still can be longing for that

10:30

in. Your twenties and I spent my twenties

10:32

and as is why sympathize so much with

10:34

people that struggle with us where they may

10:36

be, feel like they're not getting the. Connection

10:38

from a parent. Figure or somebody the

10:41

really close to and they're so hungry.

10:43

For Julie. They. Want it so badly

10:45

that the keep going after it and

10:47

I say it's like going after would

10:50

is that they say you want squeeze

10:52

blood from Iraq right? You can't get

10:54

something from somebody that can't give it

10:57

to you yet. That's what I've learned.

10:59

I learned something from somebody that couldn't

11:01

give it to me and I was

11:03

so desperate for it and I was

11:06

feeding myself. I never felt through love,

11:08

unconditional love and select. My first thought.

11:10

That was the moment I knew how

11:13

screwed up my perception. Of love was

11:15

because I would look at as young,

11:17

baby my arms and say the things

11:19

that I experience I could never do

11:21

to this person. I just couldn't be

11:23

my mom loving that child unconditionally. It

11:25

was not possible and in that moment

11:27

I had a huge shift in my

11:29

thinking. I thought as a mom as

11:32

I feel this for this child and

11:34

I would never do or say the

11:36

things that were done than that means

11:38

this is my first experience of seeing

11:40

with as unconditional love looks like and

11:42

for many of us animal thing. Everybody

11:44

battles that. but if there's something you

11:46

didn't get that you really need it

11:48

on an emotional level. I find we

11:51

do search for in like I said

11:53

for me my twenties it was that

11:55

aims of realizing I never hide that,

11:57

relationships and that deep desire for it.

11:59

I'm realizing I couldn't make it happen

12:01

and then feeding myself even more and

12:03

I think that's why I probably hit

12:06

my highest Sweden my twenties. I'll.

12:08

So a few hits or highest way.

12:11

Was. That after you had your baby. I.

12:14

Wish I could blame him for that. Know. I

12:18

wish I could say it was so,

12:20

but no, I had hit my highest

12:22

wait multiple times. Always super super good

12:24

at hitting us i we and then

12:26

going on a diet and I could

12:28

stick to that diet. For a couple months

12:31

I could drop somewhere between. Usually I'm a

12:33

pretty good weight loss person. When I put

12:35

my mind. To It's at that time in my life our

12:37

pride could have lost. Twenty to thirty or even

12:39

forty pounds in that timeframe brought my weight

12:41

back down. Stayed there for very short period,

12:43

time binged my way back. Up So I'd

12:46

hit two hundred and ninety multiple times

12:48

through my twenties, but then I would

12:50

die. A backyard and gets I usually

12:52

range between. Two twenty into ninety I would

12:54

bounce around. With in that frame when I

12:56

finally saw the doctor in two thousand and

12:59

six to have my son I was at

13:01

to ninety Again, I'd managed to get myself

13:03

back up to their but that at that

13:05

point that had been the highest threshold. I

13:08

had ever seen was two hundred ninety pounds.

13:10

Okay, Well so he when you

13:13

hand your baby I'm understanding from

13:15

your story. Bet that might have

13:17

been your turning point in this

13:19

process. Yeah for some reason

13:21

in my mind I just never saw it.

13:23

ever. I would ever see myself past three

13:26

hundred a while as a math teacher. Now

13:28

looking back with logical eyes I think to

13:30

myself had a you're only ten pounds away

13:32

Why did that's my to suit is why

13:35

does that seem like such a stretch for

13:37

ios The in that moment I just felt

13:39

like your they would say that they're the

13:42

line in the sand. you. Just won't

13:44

cross whether com yes who, a

13:46

personal relationship, whether it comes to

13:48

a financial situations, There's like, for everybody,

13:50

they've got these lines in the sand. and for

13:52

me, I always thought that won't happen. I'll never

13:54

cross into three Hundred. Most of the men in

13:57

my family that had been obese were in the

13:59

three hundred ring. Of

16:00

my body settling in any with the

16:02

first moment. Where I think

16:04

I became very, very vividly aware of

16:06

how much that extra weight with actually

16:09

holding me down. Because once you go

16:11

from a place where your weed is

16:13

spacey suspended to feeling the full gravitational

16:15

pull of it, it's like wow, I

16:18

feel that now and I didn't before

16:20

and I had avoided swimming for for

16:22

many years and just being in that

16:24

environments and that those are the two

16:27

moments that I go back to almost

16:29

probably weekly when I don't wanna do

16:31

the things. I need to do to

16:33

keep the weight off. I remind. Myself

16:35

go back to that moment Heather: where

16:38

did that feel like And by being

16:40

very aware of those who experiences and

16:42

how. Than. Those moments, I was

16:44

very visually aware and can it statically

16:47

aware of how that felt and I

16:49

always go back to that in my

16:51

mind or recycle that. Whenever I don't want

16:53

to do those things I need to do for myself.

16:56

Wow. I think it's amazing

16:58

how. I don't know. Free

17:00

deceive ourselves. Or or what happens.

17:02

But I went through something really similar

17:04

when I started going through menopause. over

17:07

thirty forty pounds. Too. Heavy for

17:09

myself. And. Then I gained

17:11

twenty pounds. It seemed out of nowhere,

17:13

but I never realized I was happy.

17:15

Until my husband said, you know your stomach

17:18

a stick out of bars. Or tests

17:20

and I'm like no, it's not in

17:22

In but when you combat crime experience

17:24

I've had it and you had it.

17:26

It's almost devastating In it's like a

17:28

slap in the say, like you didn't

17:30

see it coming. Isn't it funny how

17:32

we can not see that happening like

17:34

we don't see the weight coming on?

17:36

Sure. And I think that's probably why

17:38

those two moments where so impactful to

17:40

me. Because the idea of coming up

17:42

off the ground when you're carrying that

17:44

much weight, it's like an impact right

17:46

away and coming out of a pool

17:48

that wait becomes. An impact right away,

17:50

I think just going through day to day

17:53

life, gaining a few pounds here, gaining

17:55

a few pounds, there it's easy. Ignore

17:57

were because eat you're just going through

17:59

your life. jobs and you're doing your

18:01

normal things and you probably adjust your habits

18:03

and what you do in a day to

18:05

actually accommodate the weight. It's a little

18:07

too difficult to bend down and pick that up anymore. So

18:10

now I just won't put it there. You

18:12

do these really subtle changes and you don't

18:14

even realize you do them. Before

18:16

you know it, you're kind of coming in from work,

18:18

you're plopping down on the couch. This

18:20

is what we Joel and I would do. We would watch reruns

18:23

of Seinfeld and King of Queens and you

18:25

name it, we got off work. This is

18:27

what we did. We ate pizza and that's

18:29

what we sat down and watched. Before

18:33

you know it, your life has become so

18:35

sedentary to where you actually don't have to

18:37

engage in your body. You're not out trying

18:39

to take a brisk walk at night. You're

18:41

not trying to go outside and garden. You're

18:44

passing on a lot of the activities that

18:46

maybe you once were but you did it

18:49

so subtly and over time, you didn't even

18:51

realize these things were changing. Exactly.

18:53

It's a terrible place to wake

18:55

up and feel like almost, uh-oh,

18:58

uh-oh, and can I do anything

19:00

about it? Now, we had

19:02

asked some of the members in the community,

19:04

in the Half-Sized Me community, to submit some

19:06

questions they wanted to know from you. Before

19:09

we go forward in your story, I'd like to ask

19:11

you this question. Many of them wanted

19:13

to know what programs you

19:15

had tried before you found the

19:17

success that you're having now. I

19:21

had done very low calorie

19:23

diets, no doubt. I had no

19:25

idea about calories, TDEE, none

19:27

of that. I was

19:29

coming from the same place a lot of people are where they're

19:31

just generally, you tell me, eat this, I eat it,

19:33

and I think that's what I'm supposed to be doing.

19:36

Usually, anywhere from say 800, 1200 calories, again, knowing

19:39

what I know now, there's no way I would

19:41

have ever done that. Everyone

19:43

loves Susan Powders, right? I did the

19:45

whole… I remember. I

19:47

remember buying the stuff. I remember eating

19:50

fat free pizza. We

19:52

did Susan Powders. The pasta. Yeah, the

19:54

pasta, the rice, the air hopped popcorn.

19:56

We did it all. I did Susan

19:58

Powders. I did it all. I

20:00

did Atkins on multiple stents. I did

20:02

the sugar, I think it was called Sugar

20:04

Busters. We did the, what

20:07

was that one called South Beach? We did

20:09

South Beach a couple times. Trying to think

20:11

back to some of the other ones that

20:13

we did. There was all the

20:15

different ones that came out in that

20:18

spaded time that were like the low

20:20

carb, low sugar, there was a couple

20:22

other ones besides the Sugar Busters and the Atkins

20:24

that we did and I just can't remember what the

20:26

name of that one was. Oh, Protein Power. I think

20:28

that's what it was called, A Husband and Wife Do

20:30

While on the Cover. And then

20:32

what I realized, Julie, this was great. What I

20:34

realized was you could start

20:36

taking all these different books and

20:38

say you removed all

20:40

the content except the food lists

20:43

and the menu plans, the

20:45

meal plans that they had in them and what

20:47

you would start to notice is they always fell

20:49

in one of two camps, right? It was either

20:51

the very low fat diets or

20:53

the very low carbohydrate diets. They

20:56

basically were the same thing. They would all

20:58

have their own unique spin on why they

21:00

were proposing it and their own quote unquote

21:02

scientific research and all this other stuff. But

21:04

ideally it fell into one of two buckets

21:06

and I looked at Joel one time and

21:09

I said, you know what's interesting? We keep

21:11

following the same diets over and over again.

21:13

They just put a new jacket on it

21:16

with a new author and we

21:18

keep buying it. I finally figured

21:20

out really there's only a

21:22

couple ways that you can spin getting these

21:24

lower calories and that's what they were doing. When

21:28

you cycle through enough of these, you start

21:30

to notice they all seem very familiar. Of

21:34

course I did Weight Watchers multiple times in there

21:36

as well. If anything, it of

21:38

course caught my eye that seemed interesting. I

21:41

would have probably picked it up and checked it out. But those are

21:43

the ones that I definitely know I did at some point. All

21:45

right, so you'd been trying all of those

21:48

things and one thing that you've taught us

21:50

in the community and then half sized me

21:52

and even have a book about it called

21:54

The Art of Maintenance. In other words, losing

21:57

weight with maintenance in mind. The thing

21:59

that you have taught. all of us is

22:01

that if you do a diet

22:04

and three years later you have gained

22:06

your weight back, I would say three

22:08

months, but you say three years later, that

22:10

was not successful. So you have

22:12

a baby, you're giving the baby

22:14

a bath, you're going to the pool and

22:17

you all of a sudden realize I've

22:19

got this problem and you've already been

22:21

on the train of lose

22:23

it, starve it, lose it, gain it

22:25

all back plus them. What clicked in

22:27

you or what made a difference? How

22:30

did you decide to

22:32

do something that you actually succeeded

22:34

at? What was it in you or

22:36

what happened to cause that? I'm

22:39

glad you brought this up because I was

22:41

thinking about this because right now we're coming out of

22:43

the first of the year and I think

22:45

what really hit home for me is I

22:47

had been a math teacher. Algebra

22:49

is one of my favorite

22:52

subjects and what I had

22:54

realized was I had spent

22:56

my whole dieting history obsessing

22:58

about details and not formulas.

23:01

So this idea that I

23:03

was so obsessed with the food lists, what

23:06

I should be eating, what I shouldn't be

23:08

eating, all of this stuff, the

23:10

busy work stuff that I was losing sight

23:12

of the general formulas. You take Celsius, convert

23:14

it to Fahrenheit, there's a general formula. It

23:17

doesn't really matter what Celsius or Fahrenheit is,

23:19

you plug those numbers in, boom, you

23:21

get the answer. You've got these formulas

23:24

and what I was focusing on at

23:26

that point is I said let's take

23:28

a look at, let's take a step

23:30

back Heather. You're doing this for real

23:32

this time. You're doing this because you

23:34

really, it's not about you getting into

23:36

a bathing suit by summertime. You're not

23:39

doing this to impress anybody. You're not

23:41

doing this for the attention of a

23:43

male. You're not doing it for any

23:45

of that. You are doing this because

23:47

your body hurts. You don't

23:49

want to carry this weight for the rest of your

23:51

life. You want to provide a

23:53

different family tree for your kiddos. You're

23:56

talking lifelong stuff here. I had already lost

23:58

weight when I was a kid. in high

24:00

school and then gained it all back during one

24:02

of those really low calorie diets. So I knew

24:04

that I could lose weight.

24:06

What I didn't know is how to

24:08

maintain my weight. So I said if

24:10

your life was a formula, what is

24:12

the general formula you always follow? You

24:15

start something, it gets hard,

24:17

you quit. You don't

24:20

keep going. You continuously pick

24:22

up the exact same diets with

24:24

a different book cover and a

24:26

different author saying the exact same

24:29

diet plan thinking that this time

24:31

if you just be disciplined and adhere

24:33

to it, it's going to miraculously work.

24:35

Oh, but wait a minute, that author

24:37

didn't talk about binge eating but you

24:39

have an issue with that. The

24:41

author didn't discuss maintenance and you have

24:43

an issue with that. So I had

24:46

to look at this totally differently. I

24:48

had to scrap the details, not worrying

24:50

about the carbohydrates, not worrying about the

24:52

protein, not worrying about the fat, not

24:54

worrying about all those details and say

24:57

this has got to be two things

24:59

you focus on. Is

25:01

this something you can see

25:03

yourself maintaining through this

25:05

whole childbearing experience into

25:08

later adulthood and keeping the weight

25:11

off? So is it maintainable and

25:13

is it sustainable? And two, the

25:15

most important part that you have

25:17

to be thinking about is if

25:19

this is what you always do

25:21

and you expect a different outcome,

25:23

that is insanity. You cannot keep

25:26

doing the same formula and using

25:28

the exact same variables and think

25:30

that the formula and the variables are going

25:32

to produce a different outcome. It will always

25:34

produce the exact same outcome. So something in

25:36

here has to change, right? So we need

25:38

to swap out the variables and find ones

25:40

that will work for you. So I started

25:42

saying to myself, this has got to be

25:44

the focus, not the details. People get really

25:46

caught up, and I know I did for

25:48

a long time, in the details. How

25:51

much is she eating of this? What workout

25:53

is she doing? Who cares? If

25:56

it doesn't work for you, it doesn't

25:58

matter what she's doing. And

26:00

that was where I had to bring my

26:02

mindset back to. So my mantra was, is

26:04

it maintainable and sustainable? And if

26:06

it's what you've always done and the outcome

26:08

has not worked for you, it's not gotten

26:10

you where you wanna go, then you've got

26:12

to change it. So what that means is

26:15

when you start something, Heather, and it gets

26:17

a little bit rough, you don't just quit.

26:19

You keep going, right? You tweak and you

26:21

move forward. You don't just say, okay, this

26:23

is it, I'm done, I'm just gonna settle

26:25

in here, because that's not real. If

26:28

you realize that you're gonna wanna have cake on

26:30

occasion, you can't obviously go on the

26:32

20 gram day carbohydrate intake, because it's

26:34

not gonna allow for the cake, right?

26:36

So everything I started doing fell under

26:38

that guise. And when I did, it

26:41

was a pivot enough in my thinking

26:44

that I was able to adhere to it day

26:46

in and day out. Whereas in the past, I

26:48

was so detail focused, that I was getting caught

26:50

up in the weeds. And when I failed one

26:52

day to hit the 20 grams of carbs, or

26:55

I failed to do the zero grams of fat,

26:57

or whatever it was I did, or I had

26:59

a full on binge, I felt like such

27:01

a failure, that I ended up just curling

27:04

up, quitting, and waiting another six months to

27:06

take another stab at of course, gaining a

27:08

bunch of weight in the process, right? So

27:10

it was that change in my thinking that

27:12

said, you know, insanity is doing the same

27:15

thing over and over and over again, and

27:17

expecting a different result. And that's what you've

27:19

been doing for the last 10 years, sweetheart.

27:22

We can't keep doing that, okay? So it

27:24

was that realization that clicked in my head

27:26

for the first time, and who knows, maybe

27:28

it was just the maturity of having a

27:31

kid, maybe it was having taught so

27:33

many kids, and seeing ultimately some of

27:35

these basic truths about principles and formulas

27:37

and how they work. But for some

27:39

reason, it was just like the perfect

27:41

time in my life with a perfect

27:43

blending of knowledge that I gained at

27:45

that point, and also knowing what I

27:47

had failed at mastering before,

27:51

that actually gave me a new perspective

27:53

on the whole situation. That

27:56

is so smart. I mean,

27:58

I probably, probably did. 30 years. It's

28:02

the same thing over and over. I

28:04

mean, until I heard your podcast and

28:07

read your book, I never ever in

28:09

a million years thought the

28:11

way that you're showing us to think

28:14

about if you can't sustain it. What

28:16

a change. Instead, I was caught in

28:18

the details also. But you know, one thing

28:20

I never ever hear people talk about, and you've done it,

28:22

and I think we should talk about it a little

28:24

bit before we go forward, and that is

28:26

binge eating. I truly believe that

28:29

that happens a lot because of the

28:31

severe restrictions. What

28:33

I've learned about binge eating is

28:35

that while all dieters do not

28:37

have binge eating issues, all

28:40

binge eaters have been

28:42

on diets. So when you

28:44

think about this, okay. All right.

28:47

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28:49

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