0:00

Special Agent Will Tran, Georgia Bureau

0:02

of Investigation. ABC's hit series Will

0:04

Tran is back. He read that

0:06

crime scene like it was a book. Tuesday's at

0:08

its new time, 8-7 Central. I bet

0:11

I can solve this tonight. Critics are

0:13

calling it an entertaining, powerful, heart-racing drama.

0:15

There's a bomb in this building. Clear

0:17

this entire block. Will Tran

0:19

has joined the list of greatest TV detectives.

0:22

He's good police and he's objectively hot. Will

0:25

Tran, new Tuesday's 8-7 Central on

0:27

ABC and stream on Hulu. What

0:31

does Colgate mean by live life to the brightest? Could

0:34

it be a rich glass of red

0:36

sipped inside a Parisian cafe on a

0:38

snowy night when my gaze

0:40

is met by a tall, mysterious...

0:44

I mean, brushing is directed with Colgate

0:46

Optic White Pro Series toothpaste gives you

0:48

a visibly whiter smile in just three

0:50

days. So you can live life to

0:53

the brightest and finish that glass without

0:55

worrying about teeth stains. Colgate Optic White.

0:57

Find it at all major retailers. He

1:28

was watching Robin's kids. He told me that himself.

1:31

No. Not the truth. Can

1:33

you tell me how you know that and can you

1:35

explain it to me in your own words? Him

1:39

and Chris came to scoop me up from

1:41

Jeremy's house. Him and Kristen?

1:44

Yeah. Okay. Chris... Yeah.

1:47

Okay. Came to scoop me

1:50

up. They took me to Robin's

1:52

because, in all honesty, you want me to be

1:54

truthful. I

1:56

was sending him with cash to go pick up. And

1:59

he said... He said, boy, you know, I got to go

2:01

pick it up. I'll be right back. I'm like, all

2:03

right, cool. So I wait there. I watched his nephews.

2:06

It was only supposed to be 30 minutes to 45 minutes ordeal. Where

2:11

were they going to go? Do you know where they're going to go get it at?

2:14

I don't know. So Chris and

2:16

Jeff pick you up, take you back

2:18

to their place where Robin lived, I think, or? And

2:22

the Golden Buddha. Okay. At

2:24

that hotel. And

2:26

they said, oh, they'll be right back. They'll be right back.

2:28

And I ended up being like a four

2:31

to seven day event with me. Three

2:35

kids. I didn't know. There

2:37

was no food in the house, no nothing. Luckily I

2:39

knew a couple other people that lived there at the

2:41

hotel and they would give me food

2:43

and miscellaneous items and a little bit of

2:45

cash. So I go get them some food. And

2:47

then when Robin came back, she

2:50

handed me 20 bucks for after she freaked

2:52

out on me. Why she's

2:54

just telling you. Because me and Robin

2:56

really didn't know each other. Jeffrey

2:59

was supposed to be there. Okay. So

3:01

she's freaking out the whole situation scene. Question

3:03

in general. Yeah. Cause she's saying, she goes,

3:05

whoa, who the fuck are you? And I'm like, I

3:07

said, well, wait, wait, you might not know, but

3:10

Jeffrey dropped me off here. This is days

3:12

ago. And she's like, really? Well,

3:14

from what he told me that he's been telling me that

3:16

he was here. And I'm like, well, he's, he's lying

3:18

to you. And I said, clearly,

3:21

like clearly you can see that I'm here. Not

3:23

Jeffrey. Where is she at in the 40?

3:25

Cause these are her kids. I mean, is she just on a

3:27

bender or something or? I really, I

3:29

don't know. I don't want to

3:31

say she was when she wasn't, or I don't want to

3:33

say that she was already in or whatever. When, when actually

3:35

like she could have been at work or

3:38

I don't know. Okay. Yeah.

3:40

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

3:43

No, I understand. But at that point you had never, you didn't know Robin either.

3:45

Okay. Like I knew of

3:48

Robin because growing up and whatnot,

3:50

I better a couple of times when I

3:52

was younger, but for like,

3:54

I don't know, about 15 years, we

3:56

kind of went without seeing each other. Yeah.

3:59

Okay. So Jeffrey,

4:01

Chris, they leave. They're

4:04

supposed to go by, come back. They don't, are you

4:06

blowing them up? Like what the fuck you guys, like

4:08

where you? I was blowing them

4:10

up, their phones, both their phones were off. I

4:13

said after a shot message after message, I do the

4:15

same funny no more. Like you

4:17

left me here with some kids that were hungry. Like.

4:20

How did you communicate that to them? Do you remember? Messenger,

4:24

I'm not mistaken. Do

4:26

you still have those messages? My

4:28

account is still active. I just can't get into it. But

4:31

it is active. Yeah, it

4:33

literally pops up on my D no

4:35

friend or what's that friend

4:37

suggestion all the time. Okay, would

4:39

you be able to send me that actual profile

4:42

when you, after this one we're done? Yeah.

4:45

Okay, so it is active, but you feel

4:47

like your best recollection is that you were

4:49

communicating with them via messenger. Okay,

4:52

so it would show the dates of this as well. Yeah.

4:56

I'm also worried that someone, cause

4:58

someone's on my account or else it would

5:01

be popping up as my

5:03

suggested things. Has there been

5:05

any activity on it? Not

5:07

that I know of besides like, just share

5:10

something with me on there. Oh,

5:12

I lost your audio. Sure.

5:15

Oh no, there you are. There you are. I don't know what

5:18

happened. You're good. Yeah, I got you. Go

5:20

ahead. So as you were saying. So

5:23

like it pops up on

5:25

my suggested friends list all the time on

5:27

the last thing that I

5:30

popped up on my account was

5:32

something about just shared something about

5:34

her account getting hacked or something

5:36

by Ashley. And

5:39

this is kind of like where, I

5:42

don't know who to trust on this whole

5:44

situation. Cause I know people were

5:47

implemented into my life. Just

5:49

that way they could get access to it. And

5:52

it's just a bunch of fucking people

5:54

that are so-called friends that aren't really

5:56

friends that were just there. Cause

5:59

I was. A, able to get them drugs, B, able

6:01

to get them high, C, able to just

6:04

fulfill their needs while they were still

6:06

in steady plot. I

6:08

mean, I know how the game works.

6:10

I mean, it's manipulation 101. Okay,

6:14

so I'm going to ask you, I'll follow

6:17

back up with who was brought into your

6:19

life. But I

6:21

guess how confident do you feel that when you

6:23

went over to watch the kids

6:25

while Jeff and Chris went and did their thing to

6:27

bring stuff back? Do you

6:30

know what day that is? I

6:33

know it was after Thanksgiving. Cause

6:37

I had Thanksgiving at Jeremy's because me and my mom

6:40

were beefing because I was, you know, I was fucking

6:42

around doing dope and all that. So

6:44

she knew, I mean, I didn't lie to her about

6:46

it. So and it was, I remember

6:50

we just, we just had a real bad storm or

6:53

we had a bad storm back and

6:56

it was, I want to say

6:58

like 10, maybe 10 ish, I

7:01

know when they came to get me a Jeremy's. Okay.

7:04

So 10 ish for nine ish when they went and got you a

7:07

journey. You said Jeremy's right? Yeah.

7:09

It's on river road. If

7:11

I went, when I'm done, if I send you a screenshot of

7:13

the map or where they picked you up and again, this is

7:15

Jeremy. What's Jeremy's last name? The one that got shot.

7:18

Okay. And

7:21

I find it, oh, so

7:23

convenient that the people that could out for

7:25

me are slowly coming up, missing or dying.

7:28

Oh shit. So who else would you say is

7:30

on that list besides Jeremy? Like

7:35

the rest of them are good because they either

7:37

a had a port in it or B were

7:39

implemented into my life. That's

7:44

why I don't, that's

7:46

why I don't trust Jasmine because she was one

7:48

that was implemented in my life. She's

7:51

the one that I know for a fact got hacked

7:53

in my first picture and

7:56

Either changed codes or she can say

7:58

she didn't. Very

8:01

maniacal. And. When does

8:03

happen with Jasmine? I got which as it

8:05

brought. Price. Two. Weeks

8:08

after this. Or

8:10

that said, have problems Login Experts I'm a

8:12

phone with them Up Medicine. For.

8:14

Days on end then see would say. Also

8:17

brought me my phone back. And.

8:19

I'm like that's just now that somehow

8:21

so I'm I'm not stupid people still

8:23

must. Sit. Her

8:25

As so we think of this incident

8:27

that was going over to the Golden

8:29

Buddha. Or is nothing

8:31

on bourbon? It's called the place right behind

8:33

Gold Buddha. Doubt.

8:36

All right, there is a Indiana

8:38

Michigan. And remember. Considered

8:41

Michigan to the cops, got called

8:43

or anything Michigan would show up

8:45

academically. else like, right? border? Of. Indiana

8:48

and Michigan. Or and so

8:51

then. You think this

8:53

happens a couple days after? Thanksgiving

8:55

because mom and euro odds you're doing

8:58

whatever you're doing and then when this

9:00

happens a couple days after you mention

9:02

their been possibly heavy storm or some

9:04

with that but you can turn into

9:06

your mind to about what have back

9:09

then I know the specs on weekends

9:11

and. Actually

9:14

got stuck in his driveway when it came to pick

9:16

a subside. push them out of the driveway and up

9:18

in the car. Got.

9:20

Stuck in our who's August second? the

9:23

driver of German State Champs. Aca.

9:26

Yeah. They pick you up,

9:28

may take you to the gone Buddha or to

9:30

the hotel behind it, and then they go on.

9:32

You're trying to get a hold them. You got

9:35

three kids. And. They're not

9:37

responding. People who have who were

9:39

at that. Hotel. For.

9:41

Also kind of helping out with me. a

9:43

little bit of food here. maybe little bit

9:45

a cashier to come to help with his

9:47

kids who aren't yours. Do you know about

9:50

any those individuals like today or that we're

9:52

helping you out? Dot. No

9:54

no not really where this to strangers are like

9:56

play I when i when i said. i

9:59

got away from average I got away from everyone. I

10:01

don't talk to anyone. I don't I

10:03

don't even reach out because all they do is try To

10:06

implement certain people in certain objects or in certain

10:08

areas just make them a part of something They

10:10

never were a part of and

10:12

this is on this is on a Scale

10:15

listen like I was being

10:17

taken to people's houses that I didn't even know what they

10:19

were stealing items making me look guilty Yeah,

10:22

I've come to realize that there's no one

10:24

in that area is a friend Okay,

10:27

no none of them are okay

10:30

This time where you're at the house waiting or at

10:32

the hotel waiting. Do you know who? Eric

10:35

Ashley Brittany Do you

10:37

have do you know any of them? Honestly,

10:41

I've never heard about Brittany

10:44

up until I seen something on

10:46

the news and then Jasmine brought it up and Said

10:48

that she's got to go look for her friend and I'm like wait,

10:50

wait, wait Wait, wait, hold on.

10:53

What's going on? Hold on. What's what's going on? and

10:56

that's when I I Said

11:00

something to Jeffrey. I'm like, let me find out Like

11:02

let me find out you guys are handing on something

11:05

because when I showed back up to Darrell's at quell

11:07

run Effort and handed me a

11:09

little bit of money and then I couldn't even keep the

11:11

money because I had to jam it over to Golden

11:14

Buddha because I owed them money on ramen

11:16

noodles and all that So

11:19

I could feed the kids so I

11:21

go back I go back to Darrell's

11:23

and everyone there is acting so fucking

11:25

Suspicious as soon as I've seen Jeffrey

11:27

I about beat him up. I was

11:29

like, look you're lucky. I don't fuck

11:32

Hands with you right now And

11:34

he's like, no, no, this came up and this

11:36

came up and I'm like, bro. That's all excuses.

11:38

That's all excuse You

11:40

had my fucking number you could have called me you couldn't

11:43

extend you could did so But

11:46

you didn't and then This

11:50

and since that day he has never been the same

11:53

and I can I can say that I've known Jeffrey since

11:55

I he was like When

11:58

they said or I guess when you found out about about

12:00

Britney and her disappearance. And what

12:02

made you feel like Jeffrey,

12:05

let me come to find out you had some fucking

12:07

hand in this. Because

12:11

of the description that

12:13

was given. This episode

12:15

is brought to you by Max, the

12:17

one to watch when you have a dark side. Enjoy

12:20

thrilling and iconic dramas like the

12:22

new season of the HBO original,

12:24

True Detective, Night Country, and

12:27

shocking true crime documentaries like

12:29

the curious case of Natalia

12:31

Grace, unparalleled drama, unrivaled

12:34

suspense, riveting stories.

12:37

Now streaming on Max, subscription

12:39

required. Visit max.com. And

12:50

then, I mean, there's only so many

12:52

people that are what, five, six, five,

12:54

seven, like

12:57

a fuck 40 sideburns, shaggy

13:00

hair, because he had shaggy hair at the time. Did

13:03

he have sideburns at that time? Yeah,

13:08

he was on, he was on, I

13:10

think probation in Indiana. That's why he was living with

13:13

his dad at the time, but he

13:15

was frequent to Michigan all the time. Okay,

13:18

so they don't come back, Robin does. And then you, I

13:21

had to go hunt them down. And

13:23

now they don't at that time? Jeffrey

13:26

was. I

13:28

think that's from

13:31

what I understand, from what I know. That

13:33

Chris was driving? He was

13:35

just, I mean, I'm not

13:38

for sure, but guilty by association.

13:42

Cause I mean, when you get

13:44

with certain individuals, you

13:47

tend to do with them certain individuals do. Is

13:50

there a way for us to confirm and look

13:52

at, I mean, have you ever tried to get

13:54

back into that Facebook? No,

13:57

I mean, I tried and I tried and tried and tried, but

13:59

it's linked. to a like my email

14:01

got hacked, my Facebook got hacked. Even

14:05

the cash app card that I had at

14:07

the time was hacked and stolen and everything

14:09

that I had that

14:11

was connected to that account or anything was

14:14

stolen from

14:16

me. I could barely prove my

14:18

identity at the time. My

14:21

ID was stolen. My birth certificate was stolen.

14:23

My social security card was stolen. Yeah.

14:26

How does this stuff get like, who's, did you

14:28

ever find out who did it? Like all that

14:30

stuff? Because

14:33

they, they, they all cover for each other. Every last one

14:35

of them, every last one of them cover for each other,

14:39

but they don't understand that I'm a

14:42

patient person and I pay attention to everything.

14:48

And people will tell them themselves. If you give them enough

14:50

time, they'll tell them themselves. When

14:53

you confronted Jeffrey about him having any

14:55

involvement, what was his response? Panicking.

14:59

No, I wouldn't do that.

15:01

I'm like, that now I'm not capable of that. Like

15:05

me and then being someone that I hung out with almost on

15:07

a daily to skip

15:14

errors. Every time he gets the same room as

15:16

me, he would panic, get sketched the fuck out

15:19

and then leave. Did he

15:21

have any, was there any markings on him at

15:23

that time? I mean, did he just show any

15:25

kind of scratches, anything like that, that stuck out

15:28

or no? Besides when I punched him in my

15:31

hands on him, cause

15:33

it happened right there to his brothers. I locked the door on him

15:35

and I started hitting him. Yeah. Okay.

15:37

You mentioned, I just, I, I,

15:40

I want closure. Jess

15:43

or for whoever else actually actually

15:45

cares. And the reason I say actually

15:48

cares is cause people are really good

15:50

at playing awful. They,

15:52

they, they, they give, they give a damn when in actuality,

15:54

they're just trying to cover their own fucking ass. I

15:57

Want to shed light on the situation. Know.

16:02

That for every action, there's an

16:04

opposite reaction. When.

16:07

Normal, just like automotive. Just that's why

16:09

I tried just staying. Staying.

16:11

The fuck out of it. But then I

16:14

keep put myself in the shoes of. If

16:16

that was my kid, but that was my kid,

16:18

I'd want someone to come up and say something.

16:20

Hundred. Percent. Hundred.

16:22

Percent of I gonna do it. I'm not

16:24

doing this out of fear of not doing.

16:27

And I'm doing this because. I

16:30

think just is trying to change. She says she

16:32

cited change for the butter. And

16:35

it's fucking hard. It is a it's and it's

16:37

fucking everyday. Battle. And.

16:39

I'll be the first to attest to that. That's why.

16:42

Don't. I don't don't. makes you a whole different

16:44

person than that. makes you. You.

16:47

Have to go through yourself in order for

16:49

you'd understand. light. Because the people

16:51

the you. Hang out with

16:53

people that you do with pretend to

16:55

be your friends. literally like mind control

16:57

you into thinking. That. That's all you

16:59

have. As and you start. And

17:02

then they take it on a path so far and

17:05

and leave you. Haven't

17:07

Are you? Good luck? Good luck everything. You

17:10

mentioned earlier that there are people who ruined seem

17:12

to have been brought into your life your light.

17:17

Don't. Sleep has or will.

17:19

I met a whole circle of

17:22

individuals. Or of this

17:24

within a three month span. What's

17:27

your relationship over the like? A doesn't. Arms.

17:31

That she was. Out on.

17:36

That. She was always trying to get

17:39

needs used, sued or have subsided just

17:41

as she always says for it. And

17:43

Sunday. It. Consists of questions.

17:46

T. Words. Just.

17:49

See. Seen a more personal more about me than

17:51

I knew about for. The

17:54

warmer. By. Last as far

17:56

as guarantees. Funny my fucking from school

17:58

to right. The that's

18:00

where the all. Birds as know

18:02

that things. Are

18:05

gonna one around? I don't want this

18:07

person around. Will they

18:09

need help? They need this and I'm I don't

18:11

care. If they wanted

18:13

to help, they want to do this little dude on their

18:15

own selves. Little. Dude. On their

18:17

own time, them to run their own pocket. That's

18:19

what I was doing. When. You

18:21

ask Jeffrey when you when she went

18:23

over he said he went over don't

18:25

They're all sorts house and that's her

18:28

jeffries out. Chris isn't

18:30

with him no more. But you

18:32

confront Jeffrey. And you're like what

18:34

the Pino More did What will happen. More.

18:37

Did he say why Did like why they didn't

18:39

come back Like they said. Oh

18:41

I to play of always he just

18:43

threw excuse after excuse after excuse. As

18:46

the. As yet, like

18:48

usually said, as. He

18:50

would never be gone for more than. More.

18:53

Than a day. Because. He

18:55

knew he knew that I was, this is

18:57

or outright on the proposal. There's.

19:00

No, it's there's. no like are adults are you have a

19:02

phone. You had a way to get a hold of me.

19:05

And yet you chose. Not

19:07

to. So. That when all your see

19:09

slot the window me. To. There's a line

19:12

of communication. You lusting with three

19:14

kids? I didn't know. As

19:17

soon as he resorted rather gets. When

19:20

we the robin. Just as

19:22

as jeffrey sister now I have

19:24

just gotten. Answers

19:26

Area Jeffrey Daryl. Are.

19:28

All precipitous, Other ones

19:31

a key slayer to. Sues.

19:33

Jeffrey at that time passes call him,

19:35

heard her runner our noses. True. Jeffrey

19:37

denies ever doing around for Jeffers. I

19:40

had a new referring about how that

19:42

I wasn't like that so he downplays

19:44

his level of involvement in Just and

19:46

Just Turn. I keep only does is

19:48

purchase drugs and as only does New

19:51

knows him every doing deliveries like being

19:53

a runner. As a put it. On.

19:56

Own. I mean out of when

19:58

I want to live. The. Are

20:03

we talking like a small. Also

20:05

known as the I'm I'm Gonna goes

20:07

He gets like twenty, all sorts of

20:09

yeah yeah yeah. Okay, like

20:11

yoga? Cannot begin my

20:13

person. heavyweight L. digging around the most is

20:15

individual don't present in real heavy I'm guessing.

20:18

Yeah. They were. They were the real smart on this. Or

20:21

that. I will confirm. That.

20:25

I can't. Miss Opened

20:27

Robbins kids you mention talking to

20:29

them. Robberies up or that

20:31

bad idea. Would

20:35

tell you exactly how much what she's serious.

20:38

For. Go. In

20:40

there is on Nazis. And.

20:42

He knew who Jeffrey will get is my last year

20:44

earlier when him Chris went to go get. But.

20:47

You don't know. He was like going purchasing

20:49

from. To divert.

20:52

Some rounds kind of reminded of did you

20:54

ever see yourself. To

20:57

tell me about and as if it if it's

20:59

around those individuals can nip you can share with

21:01

you know about it. But.

21:04

It's sacred sites. One of these.

21:07

Do. You know the who Were a who's. Printing.

21:10

The stuff. He. Could be so much printing

21:12

what you could literally go on right now as good up.

21:14

At see.com. A

21:17

Whiz. By stacks of

21:19

money. Bird for like ten bucks a month.

21:21

Moves or they caught movie prop money. I

21:24

thought of officers obsolete of on saga picked

21:26

up on a child support or so cause

21:28

while. The. Caputo my

21:31

wallet seem like five hundred bucks a

21:33

fake money. And

21:35

your was edited saving. Us

21:38

in numbers in your was. Trying

21:42

to the movies affect. Our

21:45

as he did did you know there was a. Big

21:49

he has different on was light and so the

21:51

in god we trust or anything like. A

21:54

former teachers and top of your. Save

21:56

Money and I'm Michael. and

21:59

even close by up my wallet, stuck it into

22:01

a bag. So it'd be with your stuff

22:03

at the police or at

22:05

the at the jail. I got

22:07

my wallet money was still in there. I said, wait, wait,

22:09

wait, that's kind of sick money. That's a whole nother charge.

22:11

Why am I not being charged with this? So

22:14

I thought they were trying to set me up on a whole nother

22:16

charge when they left me out and I fucking I took that money.

22:18

I ripped it up through the trash. You know where you got it

22:20

from? Fucking everybody.

22:23

There's people Oh, I need a 20. I'm like, all right,

22:25

I got you. And oh,

22:27

I had to sit double check a 20

22:30

bottom up hand that I got from a

22:32

store market. Did

22:34

you ever go over to Ashley's apartment

22:36

at Village Manor? No.

22:40

You ever hang around areas? No. Have

22:43

you ever met her? Nope. Had

22:47

many opportunities to and didn't get good

22:49

vibes off them. They had

22:51

away from him. Didn't want none to do with

22:53

them. I always made others someone else don't handle

22:56

it. Or that's why another reason

22:58

why I think was implemented

23:00

in my life. So she used

23:02

me and I like, like, you know,

23:04

go run this, you're gonna go run this. I don't

23:06

know these people. Because she she'd make

23:08

she'd make sales for me. In

23:11

Daryl, where does he live at? Do you

23:13

have a landmark in the area that he

23:16

lived quail run quail quail run

23:18

road, you said? No, it'd be

23:20

Katal Lane Road. Okay, don't lane road. Okay.

23:22

When I lived

23:24

there, it was called quail run. And

23:26

they ended up selling it to someone else.

23:29

And they end up selling it and change

23:31

their name and quail run. Okay,

23:34

so that's like in town right in Sergis? Behind

23:37

where the old cropluses. Okay,

23:39

so that's okay. Do you

23:42

know rabbit also known as

23:44

Jason Spade also known as Justin

23:46

Gart? Justin? Yeah.

23:49

What's your relationship with him? Um,

23:54

sketch. He's

23:56

looked out for me, I've looked out for him. It was

23:59

not I'm never more than that. What

24:02

kind of ways you look up each other? Um,

24:04

like if he was shorting a little bit of money or

24:06

he needed to get high, I'd help him out

24:08

a couple of times. He

24:11

paid for my hotel room at

24:14

this is, this is years later. He

24:16

paid my hotel room on a couple of times. Um,

24:19

I just do some running for him, do some driving around for

24:21

him. You ever go to his dad's house

24:24

in Ontario? No. Okay.

24:30

And the how was it for Orleans, but never

24:32

Ontario. Okay. Did

24:35

you know that grandma ID'd Jeffrey as the guy who

24:37

was out in Grandma's? No,

24:39

I didn't. I

24:43

never met Brittany. I'd

24:46

never even heard of her until or Jasmine

24:48

brought all this

24:50

up to my attention. Let's

24:52

back up. Who pursued, do you recall who pursued

24:54

who in that? Because did she, you know what

24:56

I'm saying? Like if Jeffrey knows you've been blowing

24:58

his phone up and they need to get, it

25:01

was kind of, it

25:03

was a mutual thing really. Cause

25:05

like, I don't know if it was

25:07

cause you know, we were, and

25:10

we were both feeling lonely and we

25:13

kind of just came together. But

25:16

she came with so much drama and

25:18

baggage and toxic behavior. And it was

25:20

hard. It was hard to

25:23

deal with. Like I'm not

25:26

even gonna lie. But then when she brought it to my attention,

25:29

like I just, all I did was just play

25:31

my part, play my part, sat back and listen to people. Cause

25:36

they'll connect dots for you. You

25:38

just got to listen. But there's so many people

25:41

going around and bullshit

25:45

rumors and or bullshit stories,

25:47

which is just to pull, like if you're on the

25:50

right path, you're going to hear 15

25:52

different stories just so that way you chased on them. But

25:56

then I spent the time and chase. on

26:00

this, chased on that, chased on this, found out this, found

26:02

out this, and they all led back to the same path.

26:05

And what, in your opinion, what is that path? I'm

26:07

not, I

26:10

know you're not a dumb guy. That's

26:12

why I'm here talking to you

26:15

because I know I'm not a dummy either.

26:17

Yeah. Okay.

26:19

So you have, today you have your driver's license, I

26:21

imagine, because that's honestly what we would need in order

26:23

for you to get your Facebook back. A

26:26

driver's license, yes. Okay. So to

26:28

me, let's say you get

26:31

into the Facebook and let's say it's certainly

26:33

after that, when

26:35

Brittany, you know, right before Brittany goes missing or

26:37

the evening of or whenever, Jeffrey

26:40

isn't where he says he is. That's

26:43

a big problem because I asked him and

26:45

he was also questioned by law enforcement with

26:47

his statement and his testimony that that would

26:49

be a direct contradiction. And especially that's been

26:51

the hardest thing for me to look past,

26:53

to be honest with you, the fact that

26:55

grandma said it was him.

26:59

He's falsified information to investigators,

27:01

cops, all that. He's

27:03

guilty of something. So then I go back

27:05

to, okay, well then what's Jeffrey's relationship with

27:08

Ashley and Eric? How

27:10

did Brittany cross paths with Jeffrey?

27:12

You know

27:15

what I'm saying? Because I know Brittany's only purchasing

27:17

from these select individuals. So

27:20

I'm trying to figure out what was the relation. Because Jeffrey's

27:22

like, I didn't know it was that Brittany who went missing

27:25

because when she went missing and that was questioned, I thought

27:27

they were talking about this other Brittany. And

27:30

he claims to have not realized which Brittany

27:32

that law enforcement was questioning him about until

27:34

later on, someone brings up a picture of

27:36

him being around Brittany Shank and he's like,

27:38

Oh, I didn't realize it was that Brittany

27:40

because I knew that Brittany by Brittany Persing

27:43

who she used to be married to. And

27:46

so then the cops are like, all right, well, I

27:48

guess it's still with Justin

27:51

Persing. She

27:53

was married to him first and then she got

27:56

divorced and then married Eric Shank after

27:58

that. But

28:02

Jeffree's acting like he didn't know,

28:05

Jeffree's acting like he didn't know what Britney

28:07

that they were referring to when law

28:09

enforcement questioned him. He's claiming that he

28:11

didn't realize which one because he knew

28:13

Britney by Britney Persing, not Britney Schenk.

28:17

And that doesn't seem to be true based

28:20

on what I'm hearing, not just now,

28:22

but then also based on a

28:24

conversation I've seen, he knew Britney

28:27

when they questioned him. So why is he falsifying,

28:29

why is he misleading, why is he, you know

28:31

what I'm saying? The only thing

28:33

I can't say is because he's hiding something.

28:35

He knows more than what

28:38

he's letting off. And that's why

28:40

he's so sketched, that's why he's running like

28:42

a rabbit. Literally.

28:46

Which, that's one

28:48

of the reasons why Jeremy got shot. Because

28:51

there was an altercation between Jeffree

28:53

and a couple other individuals, and

28:55

Jeremy stepped in and

28:58

intervened and ended up hitting the guy. The

29:01

altercation was between Jeffree and somebody else? Okay,

29:03

so then Jeremy and- And then Jeffree, someone

29:07

else, Jeremy overheard the conversation

29:09

and ended up defending him. Like

29:12

I said, I've known Jeffree since he was like 12 years

29:14

old. I used to tell him, pah, years

29:17

and years and years ago, back when he was a good

29:19

kid. So I

29:21

had a bunch of people tell me that

29:24

there was a target painted on my bag, yada,

29:27

yada, yada. I need to watch what I'm doing,

29:29

watch what I'm saying, watch who I'm talking to.

29:32

And I don't

29:34

know, they don't realize like

29:37

my whole life's been hard. So I'm not

29:39

scared of much. So I just,

29:42

I needed to get out of there so I could fix my

29:44

life. Everyone's like, oh no, you're

29:46

running from, I'm not running from anything else. That's why I'm

29:49

sitting here talking to you. I'm

29:51

not running from this, I'm not. I didn't think you're

29:53

running from this though. No,

29:55

I know, but I've had individuals telling me that. I'm

29:57

like, I'm not running from shit. You

30:00

can't prosper in a toxic ass environment.

30:04

Like, I don't know,

30:06

I just, I

30:08

know he was involved in on something. I

30:11

wish he wasn't. Do I

30:13

want justice? Yes. Does

30:16

he deserve? Yes. Especially

30:18

if he did have a hand

30:20

in on something. Every single person that

30:22

did should. Yeah. Just

30:26

so that way there's a clear message sent,

30:28

whether it's street justice, whether it's the

30:31

justice with cops, courts,

30:33

whatever. Like,

30:36

but that's, no

30:38

one wants to take the time, energy, or

30:41

no one wants to spend that to

30:43

pursue it, which is, it's sad. So I'm not

30:46

saying I'm not saying anything like that, but

30:49

I've always kept my morals. If

30:51

it came to helping a person, I would help a

30:53

person. It came to giving someone a place

30:55

to stay because if the streets were cold, I'd give someone

30:57

a place to stay. Even if it cost me my own

31:00

spot to stay. Because

31:02

I've been in that situation. I lived in a

31:04

tent for three years through winter and everything. Like

31:07

I know struggle. So

31:10

I mean, it's, and I used to tell everybody all

31:12

the time, man, just keep your morals, man. Keep

31:14

your morals. I don't care that you do drugs. I don't care

31:16

that you steal from stores. I don't care that you steal from

31:18

people. Just

31:20

pay it forward. Pay

31:23

it forward, be a decent fucking human being. Is

31:26

that the end of the day? That's all you really have. Yeah.

31:29

All you have is your word, what you do, what you

31:31

can control. And that's yourself. And

31:34

if I can, and if I can help bring and

31:36

shed some light on this situation, I gladly will do

31:38

so. Well, I think, I think Nate, that that's a

31:40

hundred percent right there. And I think that's the most

31:42

important thing right now is, is I'm going to tell

31:44

you, and this happens, it happens all the time. And

31:46

this happens all the time with this. And there are

31:49

a few who actually go to the distance and do

31:51

this, but because

31:53

of Kiesling's testimony and what he told

31:55

law enforcement and then what he told

31:58

me, And... What?

32:00

I'm seeing. Been

32:02

able to prove that that whole

32:05

situation took place around that time

32:07

between November thirtieth. And.

32:09

Him not being there to pick up the

32:11

kids are comeback rechristened. doing all that that

32:13

to me is. Is. Is

32:16

a big big pieces of playing a hold

32:18

his testimony because how can you be around

32:20

his kids? if he's communicating with you, ask

32:22

him where you're at and if that goes

32:24

beyond the thirtieth two specially. The

32:27

Night as. That's.

32:29

Can be a be from. Or

32:32

it was a was days. It was days. I

32:34

think I've finally made it back. Carols run the

32:36

first or second. Of December. Okay

32:39

so if we could I can give you

32:41

a step by step guide send it to

32:43

you and hard to be a to be

32:45

able to retrieve your Facebook back. I

32:48

hope sheldon. Get. His

32:50

back. It's a pretty simple process,

32:53

honestly. Getting. Into that

32:55

Facebook looking at the conversation history

32:57

between you and just an hour.

32:59

Imagine Chris cause. Is Chris?

33:01

Are you going up Chris to ours is just

33:03

yes. I

33:05

messes as I do believe I did

33:07

masses Chris. But. I figured since he

33:09

was a driver, a prime might have to dropped them

33:11

off somewhere. Like I

33:13

figured he all he did that his party light. Why?

33:16

you blow me up like. Eat and had

33:18

me money light. Rail. Your beefing with

33:20

me it's were. Their

33:22

or up. Ah I'm if

33:24

I send you that would you be able to

33:26

try to tackle that some time miss? you know,

33:28

like of as anything I'll get the account back

33:30

and asked if it's year and he could have

33:32

added i've not, I'd. Go. Over

33:35

the last movie I thing that can be

33:37

incriminating was have already been charged for so

33:39

again to double jeopardy on itself the Death

33:42

of Methamphetamine They mean you've heard on the

33:44

people of emitted says selling and running and

33:46

on my sorrows so you know it's not

33:48

like they're going out for that they're going

33:51

after my we want to is responsible. Now.

33:54

I know, I know. Like. I.

33:56

have not i saw as a as soon as i

33:58

get that a profiler of the callback I'll

34:00

send you the information the password all that

34:02

then you can just fucking have that okay

34:06

That'd be awesome man. Okay. Well, I'll

34:08

get out of your hair man. I appreciate you jumping

34:10

on seriously I I know that it's

34:13

not the funnest thing to try to jump

34:15

on these but I appreciate it Obviously,

34:17

I'm still trying to get Jeffrey nailed down.

34:19

He's he is very squirming He has all

34:21

the excuses in the world why you can't

34:23

talk you can't take ten minutes out

34:25

of your fucking day Whether

34:27

it whether it's covering you covering your own ass

34:30

That right there's a red flag If

34:33

he's ducking and dodging like the only reason is because

34:35

I a part of me wants to

34:37

stay out of this Because I had no part in

34:39

it But

34:42

I also want to bring closure and I

34:45

don't even know just like that I Just

34:48

if that was my kid But

34:50

I know I wouldn't be sitting here. I would I'd be

34:52

in prison Cuz it could I've

34:54

done snatched up a couple people ought to be I'd

34:56

have beat them until I got some answers. Mm-hmm But

35:01

that's just me as a person, yeah, I mean

35:03

I'm the same way touch my child you talked my wife

35:07

Backs, okay. So let many

35:09

people there were I don't care. I get each and

35:11

every one of them one by one by one And

35:15

even if I got put away, I'd make sure I had

35:17

my bases covered to get the rest while I'm in there

35:21

I'm just saying I'm

35:23

gonna tap in with you and just check in as we go through this

35:25

and Just seeing if there's

35:27

any hiccups or anything like that as you go through

35:29

it. If there is let me know. That's a big

35:31

piece and When

35:33

you do get access to it and you give me the

35:36

info like to log in and whatnot. It's going to say

35:38

hey Your Facebook accounts being

35:40

logged in all the way up in Washington State, which

35:42

seems like someone's trying to hack your account I'll

35:44

get that notification and then

35:46

I'll just say that that it's okay. Yep. Yep.

35:49

I know all about that. Perfect. Perfect. Perfect Alright, sir.

35:51

I appreciate have a great week. Yeah,

35:54

you too man. Later