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I told myself

3:02

kill all of my motherfuckers and

3:04

I was gonna have my people. I can take

3:06

care of them.

3:53

Hey guys, as usual

3:56

we'll do a brief recap of last week's episode

3:58

before we get into today's very interesting

4:00

episode. Last week

4:02

we reminded everyone that we still hadn't seen a pic

4:04

of Ashley and her best friend Brittany together,

4:08

but our patience paid off in another area. We

4:12

were optimistic that Ashley and Brittany's full

4:14

conversations would finally make their way to us,

4:17

and they did. We

4:19

have those conversations, or at least a

4:21

version of those conversations. We

4:24

decided to leave it up to Ashley to share them, but

4:27

made sure we offered her a method of confirmation,

4:30

so there was no doubt in her mind that we had them. Since

4:34

she is somewhat predictable, and I figured

4:36

she'd say that we didn't have them, I

4:38

offered her to name a timestamp and I'd be happy

4:40

to tell her what the convo says. Also

4:43

in last week's episode, you heard Sarah and I discuss

4:46

the screenshots Ashley had a friend post

4:48

earlier this year of Eric's Google location.

4:52

If you didn't hear this, pause now and go

4:54

back to episode 41. I

4:57

want to make it clear, Ashley told

4:59

me Eric never had his Google location on. Now

5:02

until early 2023, Ashley

5:05

was able to track Eric's whereabouts on November 30th, 2018. That's

5:09

quite convenient since the screenshots purport

5:11

to show his location between 8.34 pm

5:14

and 2.09 am. They

5:17

claim Eric went to Bolin Tire around 1.08 am

5:20

to put Eric and Ashley's tire. 1.08 am.

5:25

Hmmm. If you're like me,

5:27

you're probably wondering what the

5:29

crisis was that required Eric in the tire

5:31

at that hour. There's a lot about

5:34

the Google location picks that make me less than

5:36

comfortable. I reported

5:38

in the last episode that I spoke with a representative

5:41

from Spark, a company owned by Brickhouse.

5:44

They are a provider of security and surveillance

5:46

solutions since 2005. Their

5:49

GPS units are small tracking devices made with

5:51

the intentions of tracking vehicles. For

5:54

the most part, their units are magnetic, waterproof,

5:57

and require a monthly subscription. Subscriptions

6:01

allow you to track a vehicle, or whatever

6:03

you choose to attach the unit to, all

6:05

over the US through an app on your phone via a

6:07

web browser. In her

6:10

own words, Ashley says she

6:12

had a Spark GPS unit in her vehicle.

6:16

If you had an account with them at one point, the

6:18

record of that account will still be stored with them.

6:21

I inquired as to what services were available

6:23

to a subscriber.

6:25

For example,

6:27

could an account holder with an active subscription

6:29

download their GPS tracking history? The

6:32

answer was yes. The subscribers

6:34

could download their tracking history at any point.

6:37

I find it almost unbelievable that someone

6:40

who has backups upon backups of information,

6:43

much of which could be considered frivolous, wouldn't

6:45

have downloaded information that has the potential

6:48

to be extremely important to Brittany's case.

6:50

This information could

6:53

help pinpoint the origination of the

6:55

gas receipt. Since Ashley says

6:57

she came into possession of Brittany's receipt after

7:00

JJ stole her vehicle, the GPS

7:02

history could help narrow down the movements in

7:05

the day before and after Brittany disappeared.

7:08

In fact, if I was Eric, and

7:12

I was tired of being talked about, and having

7:14

my name dragged through the mud, as he

7:16

says he is, I'd be

7:18

doing everything I could to convince my friend

7:21

to hand over the GPS history. Before

7:26

we proceed, I'd like to revisit a piece of

7:28

evidence that has been looming large over this

7:30

investigation.

7:31

Ashley pointed

7:33

out what she believes to be the most damning evidence

7:35

against Daniel Walters.

7:38

This evidence comes in the form of a voicemail

7:40

left on Jessica's phone on November 30th at

7:42

8.58pm. To provide

7:45

some context, Daniel Walters

7:47

has been a name that comes up repeatedly during

7:50

the course of my investigation, and Ashley

7:52

was the first to assert the significance of this individual

7:55

in relation to the voicemail. Here's

7:58

a snippet. my nearly

8:00

four hour conversation with Ashley.

8:04

The way it came together, I have to be divided

8:06

for intervention and the way this shit happens for

8:08

me,

8:09

but I ended up taking over Jessica the Count.

8:12

Probably the most damning piece of evidence in

8:14

my position right now. For her account, from

8:16

the moment we're missing, a voicemail

8:18

to her

8:19

from Daniel Walters saying, you won't

8:21

like my next move. The very moment

8:24

she went missing. 8.58 PM,

8:27

November 30th, 2018. If

8:30

you say Daniel, we're all gonna say Keltner.

8:33

It wasn't until Brit's birthday that this woman messaged

8:35

me. She said, I'm

8:36

sorry it's so late, but can

8:38

I ask you a question about Britney? She

8:41

said, Daniel, they were talking about an situation now. So

8:44

if Daniel Walters, right? I said no. Keltner

8:48

also goes, the cage. And she goes, no.

8:52

The voicemail is where she's threatening Britney.

8:55

Where she says, I'm not gonna threaten you Daniel, well yeah, I

8:57

am a little. She's referring

8:59

to Daniel Walters. First

9:01

off, you destroyed yourself. You

9:04

are a toxic waste.

9:09

Secondly, I know I'm gonna

9:11

threaten you about jail. I'm gonna threaten you

9:13

about Daniel. I am

9:15

kinda threatening about Daniel, but.

9:21

I said, who is Daniel Walters? Because

9:23

they're the Daniel that she was dating.

9:25

And I got to experience, when I was in Detroit

9:27

with her, I said, oh my God.

9:30

Cause she's her voicemail. What she was referring

9:33

to was

9:33

Facebook messages. But I freaked

9:35

out because two days prior, I had found that

9:37

voicemail for the first time. No one

9:39

knew. And I said, what voicemail are you talking

9:42

about? The reason I ask, and I told her,

9:44

I said, holy shit. Would you know his

9:46

voice if you heard it? She's an ex of the

9:48

students.

9:50

That's why she knows so much. And how dangerous

9:52

he is. She said, yeah. I

9:54

said, holy fucking

9:57

shit. Maybe Jessica

9:59

did talk.

9:59

Chris, Brittany was going to meet

10:02

Daniel. She never gave the last

10:04

name, so maybe she wasn't lying. Maybe it was

10:06

Walter's. Just three hours prior

10:08

to the voicemail of him telling her,

10:11

if you don't get ahold of me, you're not going to like my next

10:13

move. Left at the very time Britt was

10:15

last seen ever. There before that,

10:17

he sent her one screaming at her, saying,

10:20

you better not be fucking playing with me. She

10:22

really got to fucking thank you. This

10:25

dude is off the tracker. So

10:28

who is Daniel to Britt? I'm

10:31

still learning about him. No

10:34

one knows about this dude. No

10:36

one. When I was in Detroit

10:38

with her just this last summer,

10:41

she was left out of her account because of him. The

10:43

message is from him.

10:44

He would go from his

10:47

world to, you're going

10:49

to pay and I will make you suffer slowly.

10:52

Like, dark shit. The

10:57

theory, I guess, that's all it can be right

10:59

now. That makes the most sense. She's

11:01

threatening Britt with Daniel.

11:04

Has she been able to ever point out to a visual

11:07

Facebook page of this Daniel Walters?

11:13

I've met him. Oh,

11:15

so

11:16

just he's been standing

11:17

right now. She's looking at life in

11:19

prison.

11:20

He's lying in Branch County. He's living a life.

11:23

He's a habitual offender of Michigan. Can't

11:25

talk around her phone. And today,

11:28

I went on the go. I said, oh my God. My

11:31

boyfriend said, wait, I said, all right,

11:33

tell me. Before

11:35

she went missing, he shared this to me over Daniel.

11:38

The fuck is she met Daniel Walters? She

11:41

never said, and we never

11:43

knew. No one knew. Does

11:45

Daniel Walters match the description?

11:48

I don't know what he looked like in 18.

11:52

The height matches. He's got dark brown hair

11:54

now. I don't know what it was then. I

11:57

sent a picture of him to. Scott,

12:00

Brittany's uncle. I

12:02

told him what I found, told him about the voicemail,

12:05

and I sent him the picture.

12:07

Show it to your boys, show it to your mom,

12:10

because I'm still thinking and hoping,

12:12

even after two years,

12:15

it's in there somewhere.

12:17

And if it just is

12:19

the correct face, it'll trigger

12:21

it. Or if they hear the

12:23

voice, it'll trigger it. Like

12:26

they have to

12:27

either know something or

12:30

are being kept quiet. Now,

12:33

according to Ashley, in 2021, just

12:35

days before we speak, she received

12:37

some crucial information from an ex-girlfriend

12:40

of Daniel Walters. This ex-girlfriend

12:42

claims to have heard the shared voice messages between

12:45

Brittany and her mother, Jessica, on

12:47

Facebook Messenger. These voice messages

12:49

were posted and shared because Ashley

12:52

felt it was necessary to share with Scott,

12:54

Brittany's uncle,

12:55

and Greg, Brittany's father. Greg

12:58

took to Facebook to express his frustration towards

13:00

Jessica.

13:02

In the voice messages, Jessica makes threats

13:05

against Brittany, specifically mentioning

13:07

a Daniel. Ashley's

13:09

account complicates the narrative further, but

13:12

it also clarifies something important. When

13:14

the name Daniel was mentioned before, everyone

13:17

assumed that it was Daniel Keltner, also

13:19

known as Cage. But now,

13:21

we have a reason to question that assumption. How often

13:25

do preconceived notions hinder the progress of

13:27

a criminal investigation? And what does it take to break free

13:29

from those cognitive traps? Do

13:33

the legwork. As

13:36

we know, in the beginning, Ashley had been quite forthcoming.

13:39

While she did take over Jessica's Facebook account, she

13:42

made it clear that the voice messages between

13:44

Jessica and Brittany are hard to discern. Recorded

13:48

on October 30, 2018, Ashley Recorded

13:51

on October 30, 2018, these exchanges between mother and

13:55

daughter are troubling, to say the least. And

13:59

let's not forget the voice. The voicemail Jessica received on November

14:01

30th, 2018 at 8.58 PM, which

14:04

remains a focal point of this investigation.

14:07

The voice, the timing, and

14:09

the content of that voicemail continue to weigh

14:12

heavily as we seek answers.

14:16

Today, we push further for those answers.

14:19

Whether it's the involvement of Daniel Walters, or

14:21

the puzzling dynamics between Jessica and Brittany, we're

14:24

peeling back layers to get to the core of this mystery.

14:28

And as we navigate through the labyrinth of this case,

14:31

it's important to reiterate something that Ashley revealed.

14:35

She claims to have received a message from an ex-girlfriend

14:38

of Daniel Walters. Now, in

14:40

any investigation, especially

14:42

in matters of this grave, it's imperative

14:44

to cross one's T's and dot one's I's.

14:48

To this end, we've reached out

14:50

to this woman for confirmation. We're

14:53

seeking to verify that she did, in fact,

14:56

contact Ashley in 2021. This

14:59

isn't just a formality. It's

15:01

a vital part of painting an accurate picture. Now,

15:05

you may ask, why is speaking to

15:07

the ex-girlfriend so crucial?

15:10

Here's why.

15:12

The voicemail that Jessica received, the one

15:14

Ashley believes was from Daniel Walters,

15:18

is still active. But

15:20

here's where things get perplexing. I've

15:23

done some digging on that phone number, and

15:25

it doesn't belong to Daniel Walters.

15:29

That's right.

15:30

The number is registered to another individual

15:33

entirely. While

15:35

this development certainly adds more confusion, it's

15:38

worth noting that, in any thorough criminal

15:40

investigation, discrepancies

15:42

like these are not necessarily roadblocks.

15:45

It could very well be the signpost pointing us

15:47

in a direction we hadn't previously considered.

15:51

As baffling as this is, it

15:54

reinforces the need for a rigorous investigation.

15:58

No stone can be left unturned. No

16:00

lead can be taken at face value. The

16:03

search for truth in this case is far from over.

16:07

And we've seen the twists and turns

16:09

are both unpredictable and unavoidable.

16:21

Early on,

16:22

we talked about a voicemail.

16:26

I was able to show you when

16:28

I was over there in Sturgis. I

16:30

don't know if you remember it was at the campsite.

16:34

I know. Leonard

16:38

Ledford, he was somebody that you worked with, or

16:40

he worked for you. There was a

16:42

dispute. Eventually he started calling

16:44

and leaving some pretty rough voicemails. There

16:49

was also another voicemail though that Ashley

16:51

was very determined that it was a person

16:54

by the name of Daniel Walters. I'm

16:56

gonna play the voicemail of what Ashley

16:58

claims of Daniel Walters. Once I

17:01

play it, then we'll talk about it. Three

17:03

different voicemails. I'll play each

17:05

one. Voicemail

17:08

one. Hey,

17:10

get ahold of me here, son. Alright.

17:13

Scared.

17:15

Voicemail two.

17:19

What the hell is going on here? I hope

17:21

you ain't playing fucking games with me. I

17:24

swear to God, I will find you.

17:27

And there's three. You

17:32

ain't gonna like my next move, I'm telling you. You

17:34

better get ahold of me.

17:37

So that voicemail, the last one where

17:39

he says, you're not gonna like my next

17:41

move, you better get ahold of me. Uh-huh.

17:44

That one's on November 30th at 8.58 p.m. Okay.

17:49

Do you recognize who the voice is?

17:52

Man, you know, it sounds like Daniel

17:55

Walters. But

17:57

both of them ran rave like that, but it definitely...

18:00

between him and Leonard Loefford, but it

18:03

definitely sounds like Daniel Walters to me. So

18:06

how confident that it is Daniel? Probably 90%

18:09

confident

18:10

that it's Daniel. I

18:12

guess they both ran rave the same way, so

18:14

I'm probably 90% sure

18:17

that's Daniel Walters.

18:19

I haven't heard, I haven't talked to either one in so long

18:21

since then. You know, if I'd heard Leonard's

18:23

voice and then Daniel's voice, I could

18:25

definitely, if I heard, you know, both of them, you

18:28

know, pick out which one it was for sure, but not

18:31

having talked to them for so long, I am

18:33

not 100% confident on that.

18:36

Do you know what he's talking about that night?

18:39

Oh, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's, I'm sure

18:41

it is over the job, but you know, both

18:44

of them suck at their job, it cost me

18:46

a whole lot more money.

18:48

So Daniel Walters, he's somebody that

18:50

worked with you as well?

18:51

He works for me, yeah.

18:54

What about a gentleman by the name

18:56

of William

18:58

Bingo?

19:00

William? Are you,

19:03

will you have gone by Bill?

19:05

Yeah.

19:07

He is an old, old, old friend

19:09

of mine that I haven't seen or talked to

19:12

since probably 2019. Just

19:15

an old friend of mine. Let me pull

19:18

up a, I can pull up a Facebook. He's

19:20

probably 10 years older than I am and Muffish

19:24

beard a little bit, not a whole, not a

19:26

full beard, but let

19:28

me pull him up. Gosh, I haven't heard that name

19:30

in a long time. This is an old, old,

19:33

postingest profile. And

19:35

then mind you, that's a very old picture of him. It's

19:37

not, he had about 20 years on

19:39

that.

19:43

That's him. Yep.

19:45

Okay, so what's your relationship with this guy? It's

19:49

just, he's an old friend. No one of our

19:51

friends that was young, like, in my early twenties

19:53

probably. So, see, are

19:55

there someone that you rub shoulders with in passing like

19:58

nothing beyond that?

20:00

We've all, I mean, he was,

20:03

um, gosh, how did I,

20:05

I don't remember, but I was in my early 20s when I met Bill.

20:08

Did it get physical with you guys?

20:11

No, never.

20:14

The phone number that

20:16

calls you, that voicemail comes from, that's

20:20

actually William who called

20:22

you on November 30th. Listening

20:25

to what he had said, get ahold of

20:27

me, trying to get ahold of you, where you are,

20:29

you're not going to like my next move. Why

20:31

is he saying that?

20:34

I don't know. Maybe he got the wrong, I mean, I don't know.

20:37

I really don't know. I don't remember that call like

20:39

that. It

20:42

could have been drug related. Like he made

20:44

drugs or something. That's what I'm thinking. I

20:46

mean, that's what I'm looking for is just to figure out like

20:48

what was. Yeah, if it,

20:51

play it again for me James, please. Cause

20:54

it could be, I mean, yeah, it definitely could be. But

20:57

I mean, regardless of his, it's irrelevant to

20:59

Brit. I promise to God it is. I

21:02

ain't going to like my next move. I'm telling you, you

21:04

better get ahold of me.

21:07

Absolutely. Yep.

21:09

This bill.

21:10

Yeah. Drug related probably. I don't,

21:13

I don't remember exactly what it is. Mark, who's

21:15

dead now, he, he'd

21:19

gotten some stuff from, from Mark and Mark, Mark

21:21

hadn't produced it. He gave Mark the money and

21:23

Mark hadn't produced it for him yet. That's

21:26

what it was.

21:28

Okay. So that's what Bill's contacting

21:30

you for though.

21:31

Yeah. Mark and I were friends and he,

21:34

he met Mark through me.

21:35

Was it like you and Mark going in and together on

21:38

something and then he's like, Oh no,

21:40

no, Bill was looking for some

21:42

shit and Mark had it.

21:44

And so I hooked the two of them up. I don't

21:47

deal with all that shit. I'm like, just deal with it. You

21:49

know, Mark was in the

21:51

midst of getting it and Bill was getting impatient

21:53

and had his money to a little bit longer

21:56

than Bill wanted him to have it.

21:59

So I'm going to reach out.

21:59

to

22:01

Bill. He goes by Bill, but William. James,

22:03

tell him to say, I mean, just so he'll tell

22:05

you the truth, if he wants to confirm it with

22:07

me, like, give me a call or whatever, you know,

22:09

give him my number. I don't give a fuck, you know, just tell him to call

22:12

me or whatever. I mean, are you sure

22:14

he's going to worry? I haven't talked to him in years, so I don't know

22:16

how he is. I don't know if he's off paranoid in Skitsona. I

22:18

don't have no idea. But just let him know

22:20

that he probably is going to think that you're going to tell

22:22

on him for drugs or whatever. So just, you

22:25

know, just let him know if he needs to

22:27

confirm

22:27

that it's OK to talk to you or whatever, just give me

22:29

a call because he's

22:30

definitely old school and he's definitely not going to

22:32

want to, you know, like, to evolve, you know, divulge

22:35

information that's going to incriminate him, you

22:37

know, the bill front the money.

22:39

Yeah, Bill gave him the money up front. Yeah. Yeah.

22:42

And I'll like the message bill in a minute here. He's

22:44

still a friend of my friends. I just noticed it. So

22:47

when I pulled him up, he's still a friend on there. I

22:49

haven't talked to him in years, but I will definitely

22:52

message him and be like, hey, answer honestly

22:54

or wherever, you know.

22:56

Yeah. Jessica

23:03

was unaware who left the voice message on the night. Brittany

23:05

disappeared. Leonard

23:08

Ledford and Daniel Walters both came

23:11

to mind since she had disputes over work

23:13

with each of them. Eventually,

23:16

I bring up Bill R. After

23:19

a brief discussion, I play his messages

23:21

again. And

23:24

Jessica confirms those messages are indeed

23:26

him. She

23:29

says she hasn't talked to Bill in ages, but

23:31

sends me the number she has for him anyway. This

23:35

is a change of pace. Someone

23:38

who has held on to a number longer than 15 minutes.

23:47

Hey,

23:52

is this Bill? Jessica.

23:55

I'm

23:55

reaching out because.

23:59

You're friends with

24:02

a girl by the name of Jessica Rolf. Jessica

24:08

Rolf? I don't know.

24:12

She's the woman whose daughter went missing. Brittany,

24:14

shank.

24:16

Oh yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

24:21

Has anybody ever talked to you about a voicemail

24:23

that you may have left Jessica on the night

24:26

her daughter went missing?

24:29

No. She

24:32

was here helping me paint the balls. And then her

24:34

daughter, she left and she got

24:36

the phone calls and she couldn't

24:38

let me hear it from her daughter in two or three days.

24:46

Oh, so you were working with her when they contacted

24:48

Jessica?

24:49

Contacted her. Yes.

24:52

Yes. She was at my house working. She was helping

24:55

me. She was reported

24:57

missing on December 8th. And

25:01

so on December 8th, when Jessica's

25:03

over at your place working, she gets to call.

25:06

That's on, that's in December, but Brittany actually

25:08

didn't go missing until November

25:11

30th. Okay.

25:13

Yeah. Cause she said there was a couple of days. There's

25:17

a voicemail I wanted to play

25:19

for you. It was a voicemail that you

25:22

had left Jessica and I was just hoping to see

25:24

if you can give it a listen and what was happening

25:26

when you left Jessica, this voicemail. Now there's

25:28

going to be three different ones that I play for you. These

25:31

all take place on November 30th, 2018. And

25:33

the first one is at 2 11 PM. So I'm

25:35

going to go ahead and play it for you real quick.

25:39

Hey, get all of me here. So, all right.

25:43

Here's the second one. What

25:46

the hell is going on here? I hope you ain't

25:48

playing fucking games with me. I

25:51

swear to God, I will, I will find you.

25:54

Last one.

25:57

I ain't going to like my next move. I'm telling you better.

25:59

get a hold of me.

26:02

Those were left on Jessica's phone the

26:05

night that Brittany went missing and this

26:08

information. I was mad at her.

26:12

She was supposed to beat her

26:15

and she was with

26:17

me and I was kind of

26:19

telling her how to fire her.

26:23

The phone cellular connection is breaking

26:25

up. Can you repeat that? Oh

26:28

I said I was getting ready to fire her because she was

26:30

supposed to be here that day. I was mad. So

26:34

you recall specifically what that memory and

26:36

what's going on. Yeah

26:39

I remember exactly that phone call because

26:41

I was mad at her just before that and then

26:43

I then she came here

26:46

and

26:48

she was here for two

26:50

days and then she told me that her daughter come

26:53

up missing

26:54

and

26:57

then she had left

27:01

and when

27:03

she come back and told me that she

27:05

was sorry that she was blah

27:07

blah blah she said you know things

27:09

you know I don't remember exactly but

27:12

yeah she was working for me hanging

27:16

out and I paid her

27:19

prior to but I was mad

27:22

that she wasn't here when we were doing

27:24

when was painting needed to be done that's

27:26

exactly what that was about.

27:31

And do you know who Brittany her daughter

27:33

is do you know have you ever met her interact

27:36

with her?

27:38

I've never really met her or talked

27:40

to her.

27:42

I mean I might have when she was way young

27:44

because

27:49

me and Jessica go back 20-30 years.

27:56

But no I'm not as an adult

27:58

I didn't really know. I

28:02

tried to help Jessica find her. She

28:06

called me up one day and asked me if I'd go scuba

28:08

diving that river. And

28:11

I told her I would. I

28:14

had to get my air tanks filled. She

28:19

uh, she copped at that.

28:23

So you never ended up going to do the, to

28:25

work the river?

28:27

No I never did.

28:29

Okay, so that voicemail has nothing

28:32

to do with Britney. I'm just going to put it out there so I'm

28:34

very direct with it. It had nothing

28:36

to do with it. No it was because, it

28:38

was because I was mad at Jessica for not being

28:40

here when I had already paid her for being here.

28:44

Do you remember what kind of work she was doing for

28:46

you that she was supposed to be?

28:49

Yeah she was painting, she was

28:51

painting my balls. Yeah,

28:54

because I just put new drywall in. Yeah,

28:57

because after I found out that her daughter, you know,

29:00

I kind of felt bad about leaving them messages.

29:04

Did a girl by the name of Ashley ever contact

29:07

you about that?

29:09

Uh, nothing. I'm a lawyer.

29:13

I have a voicemail, not a voicemail,

29:15

but a disappearing text

29:19

on my Facebook one time.

29:23

And somebody I didn't know, I told

29:25

Jessica about it, that

29:29

they asked if anybody had checked the

29:31

lake down

29:33

in Indiana where she used to live. Because

29:37

I put a reward, I put a reward out on Facebook

29:40

for her daughter. I don't know if you knew

29:42

that or if she told you that.

29:45

No how much?

29:48

I didn't say. I

29:51

didn't say a reward price, I just said

29:54

I will offer up a reward

29:56

for any information about her whereabouts.

30:02

And disappearing

30:06

text. I

30:09

don't even remember the name of the

30:11

person anymore. Facebook.

30:16

They text me directly and

30:20

the name was something. It

30:22

was on Facebook, the disappearing text. Do

30:27

you think you'd still be in your conversation history? No,

30:31

because it disappeared. But

30:33

the profile that it was from? No.

30:38

I doubt it. I

30:41

doubt it. Maybe.

30:43

I don't know. I don't know that much about

30:46

computers or whatnot.

30:49

And the text, what did it say specifically

30:51

that she was in Lakeland, Indiana?

30:55

It said, did anybody check the

30:57

lake where she used to live in Indiana?

31:01

I got off of it and I got ahold

31:03

of Jessica. And

31:06

I told her that somebody with that

31:08

name, and I told her the name, I

31:11

didn't know who it was. It wasn't even on my friend's

31:13

list. It appeared

31:15

and then I went back to it. No,

31:18

it's gone.

31:24

It said, did anybody check the lake where she used to live in Indiana?

31:28

Bill

31:32

informed Jessica about this message,

31:34

but oddly enough, this message vanished before

31:36

he can investigate further. It

31:39

appeared and then I went back to it. I

31:41

don't know. I don't know.

31:44

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I

31:47

don't know. It just

31:49

happened. It just

31:52

happened. It happened. It

31:56

happened.

31:59

After I speak to Bill, I

32:02

reach back out to Jessica to fill her in on the details

32:04

of my call with Bill. She

32:06

is a little caught off guard at Bill's explanation

32:09

of the voice messages. She

32:11

says she believes Bill is trying to avoid

32:13

telling me what the voice messages were actually

32:15

about. She explains to

32:17

me that Bill is an older guy and doesn't really want to

32:19

get wrapped up in trouble, so she thinks

32:22

he didn't tell me that the messages were actually about

32:24

her friend making a deal with Bill for

32:26

narcotics.

32:29

Eventually, the deal is made right,

32:32

but the voice messages live on forever. I

32:38

do a quick search on my Facebook. We

32:41

figure out Bill's account is no longer active.

32:45

Another phone call is in order to straighten

32:47

this out.

32:58

Hello? Hey Bill. Hello.

33:05

I wanted

33:10

to chat with you about that voicemail that

33:13

we had talked about in the past. Right. Do

33:16

you remember which one I'm talking

33:18

about? I just talked to

33:21

Jessica, so yeah. Okay,

33:25

you want to tell me what really happened?

33:32

I gave her some money and she

33:34

took off and I

33:36

was mad because she didn't come back right away

33:39

and that's all I said.

33:41

Do you remember who you gave the money to?

33:45

Jessica.

33:48

Was your dealings 100% with her? That's

33:52

correct. So

33:55

what did you and Jessica just talk about?

33:59

Pretty much just that

34:02

you were calling and she

34:05

said that you were going to get me a call.

34:08

Yeah. And she tell

34:11

you that what was said before

34:13

wasn't the truth?

34:15

About me giving her a job. Yeah.

34:19

She was over here working but that

34:21

wasn't... yeah.

34:26

Okay. What was the reason why you told me that instead

34:28

of just what you just told me?

34:31

I gave her some money. I was mad and that was pretty

34:33

much all it was. She

34:36

was here within an hour after

34:38

I called her.

34:40

That evening?

34:43

That evening, yes, sir.

34:45

What was the address over there?

34:48

My address is...

34:55

And this was on the 30th. Can

34:57

you tell me what happened on that day?

35:00

During the early days, he was here. He

35:03

had opened me paint the house and

35:06

she said she was going to go into town. I gave

35:08

her some money. She said she'd bring it back.

35:12

And she never told me. She

35:15

told me about an hour after I made that phone call.

35:18

So we do have multiple voicemails throughout

35:20

that day. There

35:21

were a total of three. Yeah,

35:24

within an hour, within a half hour probably.

35:27

Did you take your Facebook page down recently?

35:30

No, I just don't use it. Yeah,

35:32

I couldn't find your Facebook page. Did

35:35

you oblige me? No. Not

35:38

that I'm aware of.

35:40

Do you still have access to it right now?

35:43

I do.

35:46

I'm going to try to search again and see

35:48

if I can find your Facebook profile.

35:52

I barely, rarely get on it, but I

35:55

told you about the encrypted message that I got.

35:58

I remember that. I want to talk to you about

36:01

that a little bit more. You

36:03

said it was removed.

36:06

It was removed right after I

36:09

got off from it, and then I called Jessica

36:11

right away. And

36:15

the message said that you

36:17

guys needed to look at the location in Indiana,

36:20

down by the lake that

36:22

she used to live. They're down by the place where

36:24

she used to live. Who's

36:27

she? Is what? Jessica's

36:30

daughter. Where

36:32

Brittany used to live? I guess,

36:34

yes, Brittany. You

36:37

don't remember who this Facebook profile

36:39

was? The name in back is somebody I didn't

36:41

know. I was in

36:43

my friendship and it deleted as soon

36:45

as I... because I went to get Jessica

36:48

the name and I couldn't find the name. Yeah,

36:52

for some reason, I'm not able to find you on Facebook.

36:55

Oh, it could be. I

36:59

don't know, three, four weeks.

37:05

The reason why I'm coming to you is because

37:07

Ashley had found that voicemail in Jessica's

37:10

account.

37:16

This is the second time I heard this name. I

37:20

heard it from Jessica tonight. And

37:22

I heard it from you now. Who's Ashley? She

37:27

found the voicemail between you and Jessica

37:30

on this night. That's the woman who

37:32

provided it to me.

37:36

Because Brittany is going missing around

37:39

the time that you leave Jessica this voicemail,

37:43

you say it, you're not going to like my next move.

37:47

Minutes later, her daughter was missing. Eyes

37:51

are going to be looking at you. Right,

37:55

but I'm way out here. There's

37:59

no way.

38:03

Were you alone that night?

38:06

I was, I believe

38:08

I was. I'm trying to

38:10

think who might've been here. If my roommate might've

38:12

been here or not. But

38:15

it's been so long ago, I don't remember. I've

38:20

never really met Brittany, I don't believe, except

38:22

for when she was a baby. And

38:25

that's how long your relationship dates back

38:27

to with Jessica? Yes.

38:30

But you never interacted with Brittany when she

38:33

met you, grew older? No. You've

38:35

also never had any kind of Facebook interaction

38:37

conversations that you're aware of? I

38:40

think I'm aware of, no. I've

38:43

got three to four hundred friends on Facebook

38:46

that was... I was on

38:48

the road when I was younger and was in a band. And

38:51

this guy's a lot of people are friends.

38:54

They're acquaintances, whatever you want to call it.

38:58

I'm going to revisit this one real quick, Bill.

39:01

What was the reason why you didn't want

39:03

to tell me the truth about the whole situation?

39:07

Because at the time, pot was illegal and

39:09

I gave her the money for the pot. We're

39:11

talking about someone who's missing here and you're referring

39:14

to... I said it was

39:16

a job, it was all the money. I

39:21

understand that, but why did you choose to lie about it? Because

39:26

at that time, pot was illegal. I don't know if you can come back

39:28

on me on that or not. But

39:31

everything else I said about everything

39:34

else was true. Because

39:36

I pushed her down Facebook that... I

39:40

was looking for her for Brittany

39:42

after she disappeared. Right. Jessica,

39:45

we were that whole week. Yes,

39:48

sir. She

39:50

was at my house the whole week and

39:53

we were putting up drywall. Actually,

39:55

the drywall was up and she was going

39:57

around taping the drywall. She

40:00

was getting ready to paint it. From what

40:02

you remember, you're saying that it was just you and Jessica

40:04

during that transaction? During

40:06

that day, I believe it was that my

40:09

roommate Evan. She's no longer

40:11

a roommate. I don't even know how to contact him. It

40:14

might've been her, but I don't know if

40:16

he was or not.

40:19

Who's Morgan?

40:22

I have no idea. She mentioned

40:24

him and I didn't know who

40:27

he was. I have no idea. And

40:29

when you say she mentioned him, are you referring to your

40:31

phone call earlier? Yes. And

40:34

what did she say about that? She said

40:36

that, tell him

40:38

that I introduced him and

40:43

I don't know no Mark. What

40:48

did you say to her about that? I

40:50

just kind of dumbfounded

40:52

on it and you called seconds after she talked

40:55

to me. So you

40:57

don't remember a Morgan? There

41:00

was no Mark. After

41:03

you left that last voicemail, you recall

41:06

Jessica arriving to your location

41:08

within? Within the hour. Within

41:10

the hour? Yeah. She

41:14

was gone probably four to five hours. And

41:18

when she returned, did she have the drugs? Yes.

41:22

And is she alone still? Yes.

41:26

We're thinking this is close to around 10 p.m. She

41:29

comes back, she does have the dope. No,

41:31

I believed it was daylight. I know it was.

41:35

That last voicemail is around 8.58 p.m.

41:39

Okay, so it must have been, yeah, it was summertime,

41:41

wasn't it? No.

41:44

It wasn't

41:44

when, it was spring. It was November.

41:48

November, all right. Well then,

41:51

it wasn't late then, I can't remember. It's

41:53

been too damn long as hell. November

41:55

30th is when this day all takes place and it's 8.58 p.m.

41:59

Yeah, it's good. He was back within an hour. Either

42:03

way, I know she was. How

42:06

do you know that? I

42:10

told her I left her voicemail about an hour ago.

42:12

I remember saying that. You

42:15

know, I told her I said I was mad just to eat

42:17

it. And

42:19

what did she say her reason was for not coming

42:21

back

42:22

right away?

42:23

She said the guy took longer than what

42:25

she thought. And did she

42:27

say who the guy was? No,

42:31

she stayed there the night and

42:33

then the next morning somebody

42:36

had called her. I believe

42:38

it was the next morning. It might've been. Yeah, it was definitely

42:40

the next morning. Somebody called her

42:43

and said that they couldn't that Britney didn't show

42:45

up to where she was supposed to.

42:47

And she said, well, she was going to call her.

42:49

She tried to call her. There was no

42:51

answer. And then she took off

42:54

saying that she had to go find her daughter. That

42:57

happened like the day after? Yeah, it was like

42:59

the next afternoon. She stayed the night

43:01

here that night. She stayed on my couch. She

43:04

left shortly after that. And

43:07

how long did Jessica work for you? She

43:11

was here probably, I'm going to

43:13

say four days. Anyway, four, three

43:15

nights, four days. It was my house.

43:17

I was, I was just putting up drywall inside

43:20

my own house. And that was the only time

43:22

that she ever helped you or worked on your house?

43:24

Yeah.

43:26

Never since then.

43:28

No. What about

43:30

before that?

43:31

No.

43:33

So this is the only job she's done?

43:36

She was doing her own thing and I

43:39

said, well, come on out. And that's

43:41

pretty much how she died. I've

43:43

known her forever. I went back

43:45

in 98, I'd say.

43:49

Thing that I'm kind of scratching my

43:51

head on. How is Mark

43:54

not involved at this point?

43:57

That one throws me off too. Cause when she

43:59

said she introduced me. to murder. She

44:01

never brought nobody over here. Not

44:02

that I can, not that I'm

44:04

aware of.

44:05

Do you have a conversation history thread, but Jessica's

44:08

account that you could take a look at and see if you guys talked

44:10

about it back then?

44:12

I can try. I don't know if that

44:14

my Google stays there. I mean, Facebook stays

44:16

there long, but I can see.

44:20

I don't think I will at this point, but answer

44:22

me if I do shoot you something.

44:25

All right. I will.

44:28

Bill came clean about lying. The

44:31

reason for his previous dishonesty. He

44:33

was nervous about admitting to illegal drug purchases.

44:37

While this clears up one discrepancy, he introduces

44:40

new questions. How

44:43

much should we trust a testimony that has already

44:45

been proven to be partially false? Bill's

44:48

recounting of events seem a bit unsteady.

44:52

His recollection of timeframe shifts. First,

44:56

at summer, then spring, then

44:59

daytime. When

45:01

corrected, he says it's been so long that he

45:03

struggles to remember. And

45:05

given his position, that's

45:08

somewhat reasonable. Memory

45:11

is a fallible thing, but in

45:13

high stakes situations like this, even

45:16

small inconsistencies can be damning. As

45:21

for the drug supplier, Mark, it's

45:23

curious that Bill claims not to have known him

45:26

when Jessica suggests the dealings were directly

45:28

between Bill and Mark. This

45:31

is something we'll be examining more closely. It's

45:34

also worth noting that Ashley could potentially access

45:36

the conversation thread between Jessica and Bill

45:39

on Facebook, assuming she still controls

45:41

Jessica's Facebook account. I

45:44

would imagine Ashley's already taken these steps.

45:47

She could provide us with more direct evidence, so

45:50

we're not just relying on their spoken words. Bill

45:53

disclosed his home address to me. Upon

45:56

calculating the distance between his residence

45:58

and the house of the elderly man, Bill's man, where Brittany

46:01

and John dialed 911, the

46:03

estimated travel time is approximately

46:06

one and a half hours. According

46:08

to Bill, Jessica returned to his home within

46:10

an hour after he left his last voicemail.

46:13

Now, considering these details, is

46:16

it plausible for Bill to have returned to his

46:18

home in the timeframe he provided? Factor

46:21

in that the weather conditions included

46:23

freezing fog and temperature below freezing.

46:26

To align with his account, Bill

46:28

would need to reduce his travel time by 30 minutes

46:31

in order to arrive at his property before

46:34

Jessica. Jessica,

46:37

for her part, does not claim

46:39

that Bill was absent when she returned. In

46:43

light of the evidence, it seems highly

46:45

unlikely that Bill could have made it back to

46:47

his home within the stated timeframe, particularly

46:51

given the adverse weather conditions.

47:03

Close your eyes and imagine

47:06

you've just received a digital care package

47:08

from someone. It's

47:11

about Brittany. You're

47:14

intrigued, so you click it

47:16

open, expecting a handful

47:18

of files. Instead,

47:22

you're met with the tidal wave of data, screenshots,

47:25

video recordings, screen recordings,

47:28

and endless text conversations.

47:31

Imagine

47:33

that most of those conversations involve

47:35

people you've never heard of. You've stumbled

47:38

into a room filled with scribbled notes and

47:40

hastily recorded messages all

47:42

left by strangers for some enigmatic purpose.

47:45

Take

47:47

a deep breath because

47:50

it gets more confusing. As

47:55

you start clicking through the files, you

47:57

realize you're seeing the same screenshot or

47:59

video. video multiple times. It's

48:02

as if you're in a maze with mirrored walls, each

48:05

reflection tricking you into thinking you're

48:07

onto something new, only

48:09

to lead you back to where you started. The

48:13

sense of disorientation creeps in. As

48:16

you go further, you find that someone

48:19

has left their own marks on these files. Picture

48:22

them taking a digital pen and

48:25

then circling pieces of text, jotting

48:27

down cryptic notes. These

48:30

annotations pop up like riddles on your screen,

48:33

puzzling you even more because they lack

48:35

any clear context. You're

48:38

given fragments but not the full story. It's

48:41

like receiving clues for a treasure hunt, but

48:43

the map is missing. Open

48:45

your eyes. That's what it's

48:47

like trying to make sense of a digital jigsaw

48:50

puzzle. Where pieces are missing, extras

48:53

are thrown in, and you don't even have

48:55

the cover to the box to guide you. You

48:58

may recall in episode 33, titled

49:01

Cut the Grass, where I spoke

49:03

with a woman named Shasta. Shasta

49:05

had been assisting Ashley and

49:07

was crucial in pointing out that Ashley was in

49:10

possession of Brittany's gas receipt from the fateful

49:12

night she vanished. At

49:14

the time of releasing episode 33, I

49:17

chose not to share certain pieces of information

49:19

that I believe are critical to my understanding of

49:21

this complex case. What

49:24

you're about to hear is a reenactment

49:27

of the rest of that conversation between

49:29

Shasta and Ashley that

49:32

took place over a Facebook Messenger. The

49:35

screen recording I have of this conversation

49:37

was taken by Ashley. It was

49:39

one of the many files she sent me. The

49:42

Facebook profile for Shasta appears

49:44

to be gone. Additionally,

49:47

there doesn't appear to be a profile name with

49:49

which Ashley is corresponding.

49:54

But wait, I don't think any of these

49:56

are her Walmart card, and her

49:59

Walmart card has a transaction for $20

50:02

at Big Admiral and Sturgis in December.

50:05

Shraster.

50:07

Hmm, really?

50:09

December 2nd or 3rd? Hold on.

50:13

Whoa.

50:14

It's your fucking card, huh?

50:17

No, I don't think so. Different times.

50:20

But look, when I log into the app,

50:22

no transactions. And wanting

50:25

her to activate her permanent card. When

50:27

you buy a Walmart card at Walmart, there's

50:29

a card in the package that you can use immediately

50:32

upon purchase. You register

50:34

it, set up your account, and then

50:36

you're mailed your actual card with your name on

50:38

it and everything. Your permanent card's

50:40

number is different than the one on your

50:42

temporary card purchased at the store.

50:45

Oh my fucking gosh.

50:47

Stop, wait.

50:49

You ready? What? It's

50:52

her card. So,

50:54

this means whoever was in my

50:57

vehicle at some point

50:59

had that card. Yep, the

51:01

day she vanished, she got fucking gas.

51:04

Had to have been with her, but none of that

51:06

will

51:06

matter considering she wasn't missing

51:08

yet. Unless I can find that one dated

51:11

in December.

51:12

Now this is gonna be damning for Jess.

51:15

Because original reports say the only things

51:17

missing were Brit's phone and wallet.

51:20

Which I can prove. Prove

51:22

we're not missing and we're taken

51:24

by Jessica.

51:25

So do you know who was in your car? Why

51:28

the fuck wasn't this surveillance video from

51:30

the gas station pulled?

51:32

No, because I rarely went anywhere agoraphobic.

51:36

I mean like, take kids to school, trip

51:38

to my guy in kazoo, work, Kroger,

51:40

those are my trips. Other than that,

51:43

and I took the same route every time. I

51:45

was the only one with a vehicle though, so

51:48

everybody always wanted or needed rides. I

51:50

let people use it all the time. Not

51:53

everyone, just a few. But there's

51:55

no telling who they had in it.

51:57

Fuck.

51:59

work. Pocket took her a couple

52:02

times. Did you have your car

52:04

the night she disappeared? Give

52:07

me a few. We both know my memory is

52:09

a pretty incredible thing. Let me ponder

52:11

on November and see if I can conjure up enough to

52:13

get me to the 30th.

52:15

Okay, perfect.

52:18

I had to go eat dinner then argue with Jason,

52:20

so obviously not anywhere that I

52:22

can focus like I need to, but I've

52:25

been thinking about that time period a lot.

52:27

Trying to see what all I can remember wouldn't

52:30

have been JJ, because I never even

52:32

met him until after Britt went missing. Larry

52:35

ended up moving out of my place in like July,

52:38

so not him either. Caner

52:40

was gone before Larry, so not

52:43

him either. The only ones using my vehicle

52:45

at the time Britt went missing was Pocket

52:48

and Eric. But that

52:50

doesn't necessarily mean that receipt wasn't

52:52

in a pocket or a bag or a purse

52:55

or something that entered my car after

52:57

she went missing. Hmm,

52:59

so Eric, huh?

53:01

Well, he's kind of a suspect because he's a husband

53:03

at the time, so I don't know.

53:05

That's just ironic. Because

53:07

I found cigarette

53:08

butts too, same kind that

53:10

were in my ashtray after Jess was at my

53:12

house. Ever since I found it,

53:14

I knew it had to be one of Britt's.

53:18

I knew there was a way to prove it. I

53:20

never saw the store numbers because one starts

53:22

with zero, so I overlooked it every

53:24

time. Yeah,

53:25

I mean, ironic that someone put

53:28

that in

53:28

your car. Think about it, Ash. Someone's

53:30

trying to frame you.

53:31

Like he said all along.

53:33

I've been Eric's alibi from Jump. He

53:35

was at my house. He started

53:37

staying with me. It wasn't until last

53:40

year I really started to think about and

53:42

replay the events of these few days.

53:45

I went from being positive and saying,

53:47

yeah, he was with me at my house

53:49

without a second thought to I'm

53:52

not so sure he was there. I

53:54

had a tracker on my car, but it

53:57

was thrown out by JJ. Asshole.

54:00

I have no way to log in and check records though,

54:03

which is shit. At least I'm

54:05

like 90% sure I don't. Because

54:08

I'd have it all saved somewhere already if I did.

54:11

I'll go check again though and see if

54:13

I can come up with anything. I

54:15

don't think the receipt was put in my car.

54:18

I think when they were cleaning it out, all

54:20

of my valuables, that it was dropped

54:23

or already in the garbage, because

54:26

it was legit garbage like coffee

54:28

filters, food, like kitchen shit.

54:31

It was brought to the car to either take

54:33

somewhere or to use for cleaning the car

54:35

out. But I'm thinking it was in there,

54:37

because the original plan was probably

54:40

to set my fort on fire.

54:42

Jeez.

54:43

So everything in there would have gone up too.

54:45

That's JJ's MO. I have paperwork

54:48

on JJ. I told you this right? No.

54:51

He even admitted

54:52

in one of the reports to setting fire

54:54

to a vehicle. Now correct me

54:56

if I'm wrong, but arson is a felony,

54:58

is it not? Yes. Arson

55:01

is a felony. I took

55:03

pictures of every piece. Hold on. I'll

55:05

add you to that folder. John

55:09

didn't say anyone else set the vehicle on

55:11

fire. He

55:12

told the cop that he set

55:14

it on fire. So since

55:16

JJ was in there and he stole it,

55:19

he cleaned it out, but left two trash

55:21

bags. That tells

55:23

me it was all supposed to be gotten rid of. A

55:26

woman's wallet, a small-chested woman's

55:28

bra. Shit like that was in there

55:30

too. Um, really?

55:34

I saved that shit. But along

55:36

with everything else, it's all gone. The

55:39

wallet looked like Rupley's. Her high

55:41

school ID was in it. Dad's credit card.

55:44

Rupley. What's Rupley? Rupley's

55:46

I haven't figured out yet. Link

55:48

to JJ somehow though.

55:56

She

56:00

points her finger at a few different individuals. Taking

56:02

the number one spot though, is JJ. She

56:06

points her finger at him the most, then

56:08

turns around and eliminates him immediately.

56:12

She doesn't meet JJ until December 23rd, 2018. Odd

56:17

though, that puts a time stamp

56:19

on when she discovered Britney's gas receipt, running

56:22

a close second is Zach Kainer. She

56:25

eliminates him, and she also eliminates

56:27

Larry.

56:30

She's narrowed it down to just two people. Eric

56:33

S. and Polly Pocket. We

56:36

know that Pocket was arrested on November 29th, 2018. This

56:41

means that there's only one left standing now. Is

56:44

Eric S. These

56:46

are your words. Ashley

56:49

eliminates JJ because she doesn't meet him

56:51

until December 23rd, 2018. Now

56:54

in my opinion, that statement

56:57

puts a time stamp on when she discovered Britney's receipt,

57:00

which includes the relationships she developed

57:02

at the time of discovering the receipt. Let

57:05

me break things down to clarify. Ashley's

57:09

conflicting testimonies regarding the receipt

57:11

give us cause for pause. Let's

57:13

start with the discovery of the receipt. When

57:17

she finds the receipt belonging to Britney, this

57:19

prompts her to consider who may have had access

57:22

to her vehicle in order to

57:24

place the receipt there. She shares names

57:26

of a few people she rules out because

57:28

they no longer resided with her. This

57:30

is in reference to Larry and Zach Kainer.

57:34

Then there's the introduction of JJ. Ashley

57:37

first says that JJ could not be

57:39

a suspect because she didn't know him

57:41

until December 23rd, 2018. In

57:44

my opinion, this implies

57:46

the discovery of the receipt and the

57:48

photo she took of it occurred between

57:51

November 30th and December 23rd, 2018. In

57:56

a separate testimony, Ashley

57:58

accuses JJ of being a suspect. being the one who put

58:00

the receipt in her vehicle. This

58:03

statement directly contradicts her prior assertion

58:05

that JJ couldn't be the responsible party

58:08

because she didn't know him until December 23, 2018. The

58:12

discrepancy in the timeline comes when Ashley

58:14

claims she found and photographed the

58:17

receipt in February of 2019. This

58:21

isn't consistent with her earlier elimination

58:23

of JJ as a suspect that places

58:25

the discovery of the receipt and photo

58:28

prior to December 23, 2018. Given

58:33

all that information, there

58:35

appears to be a glaring inconsistency

58:37

in her testimony, which makes

58:39

it extremely challenging to establish a

58:41

credible timeline regarding the receipt.

58:45

In our opinion,

58:46

the receipt is evidence, and this

58:49

should certainly be a point of focus in

58:51

any investigation. Since

58:54

Ashley knows she has the receipt and

58:56

acknowledges the person holding the receipt had

58:58

been in her vehicle, it makes us

59:00

wonder why she wouldn't have checked her GPS tracking

59:03

device to see the history of her vehicle. Ashley

59:06

claims she couldn't look at her Spark GPS

59:09

because JJ removed it from her vehicle. Even

59:12

with JJ disengaging the Spark device,

59:14

Ashley still had the option to access her

59:17

online Spark account to trace the vehicle's

59:19

location. The absence of

59:21

the physical device shouldn't have been a hurdle,

59:24

otherwise it would undermine the fundamental

59:26

purpose of the Spark device. If

59:29

Ashley had Eric's Google Location history in 2018,

59:33

as it appears she does today, then there's

59:35

no reason she would have told me and others

59:38

that she didn't know if Eric was with her the

59:40

night of November 30. The

59:43

enigma that lingers in this, why

59:46

did Ashley's camera shy away

59:48

from capturing the rest of the refuses secrets?

59:51

Could it be that Ashley didn't think these items

59:54

were pertinent? It would be logical, after

59:56

all, why document what appears to be random

59:59

trash? Yet, what

1:00:01

if she considered them to be significant? Take

1:00:03

the receipt, for instance, which she

1:00:05

kept on the off chance it was Britney's.

1:00:09

What then can be said about the other items Ashley

1:00:11

preserved? A petite-sized

1:00:13

bra, a student

1:00:15

ID, and her father's credit

1:00:17

card. When hearing this, if

1:00:20

you're wondering if Ashley is referring to Britney's

1:00:23

personal belongings or a different

1:00:25

female, pull up a chair. I

1:00:29

threw the question out for Sarah and I to discuss. When

1:00:32

Ashley writes her student

1:00:34

ID and dad's

1:00:36

credit card, is it possible

1:00:38

that Ashley could be implicating a woman

1:00:40

other than Britney? Or could

1:00:43

it have been the female JJ was with? After

1:00:46

some deliberation, we agreed.

1:00:50

The evidence that Ashley chose to preserve from

1:00:52

the discarded bags, the receipt,

1:00:55

a small-sized bra, her student ID,

1:00:58

father's credit card, and her wallet was

1:01:01

too specific to Britney's case to imply

1:01:04

anyone else.

1:01:10

At this point in time in our investigation, Skyler's

1:01:14

vanished.

1:01:16

He's nowhere to be found, and

1:01:20

he's no longer taking my calls. So

1:01:24

if he's walking around a free man, I'd

1:01:28

like to continue our conversation in person,

1:01:35

along with the other involved parties. If

1:01:38

Skyler's testimony holds water, I

1:01:42

aim to visit the exact location where Britney

1:01:44

was allegedly taken.

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