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rest of the messages between. Be
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aware, Of all of them. As
3:01
a homosexual, as good
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as new people. Or.
3:35
Is it? In
4:01
the previous episode, we took you on a
4:03
journey through the teens home. Sarah
4:07
and I discussed the situation, explained various
4:09
scenarios and ideas. We
4:13
encourage you, our perceptive listeners, to
4:15
find your own opinions and pose your own questions. Speaking
4:20
of questions, we have a few
4:22
of them. Did
4:25
Brittany have knowledge of the other person's presence at
4:28
the home, when she moved from the
4:30
back of the house to the front? Based
4:35
on our extensive research and interviews, we
4:38
strongly believe that there were indeed two
4:40
individuals present at the teens' residence that
4:42
night. Shocking? No. But
4:46
since you concluded that there were two people there,
4:48
that adds another layer of questions to this scenario,
4:52
which in my opinion stems back to the root. What's
4:55
the motive here? Furthermore,
4:58
the police report revealed that Brittany's feet and arms
5:01
were bleeding when she interacted with John on his
5:03
sun porch. Even despite having
5:05
a warrant, Brittany willingly allowed authorities
5:07
to be called and even provided her
5:09
full name to dispatch. Now
5:12
does that sound like someone trying to run away? The
5:14
obvious answer is no. But
5:17
is it enough? Is
5:19
it enough to reclassify Brittany's case? After
5:23
conversing with Taz, one of our
5:25
most crucial inquiries is why Brittany's case has
5:27
not yet been classified as a nobody homicide.
5:30
I also took you along with us at St.
5:32
Joe County Sheriff's Office, where Sarah and I presented
5:34
our case to a room full of approximately 10
5:36
individuals. We
5:39
left the meeting feeling optimistic, and
5:41
you had the chance to hear Sarah recue on a snippet
5:43
of the details to Jessica. We
5:46
discussed Taz after to St. Joe County, and
5:50
we're hopeful that the rich act to him and
5:53
accept his generous proposition. During
5:57
the publication, James. Though
6:00
county express their interest. In
6:02
the laptop we obtained. Want
6:05
him back and Washington's. I run
6:07
into your Fierro blocks. Are
6:10
we get sent off? And
6:12
providing attracting them to insert for delivery.
6:15
He may have caught a glimpse of that on
6:17
Instagram sir. Pulled
6:20
up deeper into the. Men
6:22
are on. After. Leaving
6:24
the presentation detect bottom. Requested that
6:26
I refrain from pursuing leaves regarding
6:28
Scalar Story. The
6:30
reasons behind his request and a be revealed
6:32
that a little. Much
6:34
for now. Says
6:36
her separates us from ourselves. In
6:42
a previous episode will learn about actually
6:44
using a laptop that belonged to Deseret,
6:46
a friend of Cages. After
6:49
months of trial and error does or he was
6:51
finally able to get the laptop to me. The
6:55
information obtained from a laptop revealed
6:57
over two thousand text messages. Ashley's
7:00
digital footprint is amazed. When
7:03
every mace as a way through. The
7:07
situation. To phones
7:10
countless to he just one
7:12
phone in particular. Censor Censor
7:14
many And. Josh
7:17
Hockey surgery marry.
7:21
And their. Each
7:25
user. Contributing their own
7:27
digital footprint. And
7:30
then there's actually spawns. From
7:33
get taxed. Digital
7:36
Whispers. And
7:38
one expose everything. Average amount of
7:40
stuff. He
7:42
points. There
7:44
on the table. Today
7:47
and issue just a few. One
7:51
of these messages mean
7:53
misunderstandings, rigorous, or something
7:56
more sinister. Tommy.
8:01
And just to declare for the phone
8:03
or spencer. The
8:06
date range. The first text I'm
8:08
able to see was on November
8:11
Twenty Third Funny Team. However,
8:13
no one am with over eighteen
8:15
hundreds. exodus. The
8:17
and they. They
8:19
prefer twenty nineteen. When
8:22
ready to the to. There's
8:25
a decent combination between sat
8:27
receive messages nothing honor unusual.
8:29
six. Hours. Now.
8:32
See the correspondence between Ashley in the
8:35
person using her second phone. And
8:38
that's where things become interesting as in ago to
8:40
ask my own history. Oh.
8:43
I don't anticipate as many messages considering
8:45
the number of part is using her
8:47
phone. Lowest six out.
8:50
Is added to three hundred and
8:52
fifty six text messages. Three hundred
8:54
and fifty one of them. Are
8:57
received. A
9:00
time range: January Fifth, Twenty
9:02
nineteen for February Eleven Twenty
9:05
nineteen. And
9:07
thirty Seven Days. It
9:09
appears as and was just trying to suggest.
9:14
In the center twenty fifth. And
9:17
Twelve twenty nine am. A
9:20
text from Ask my second phone.
9:23
And center Britney so number. De
9:29
los com. As
9:31
one words. Isis and
9:34
the same as the Sir Self on
9:36
February eighth. From
9:39
a primary phone to ring secondary.
9:44
On. December Thirty first. Eric messages mother by
9:46
getting a new pair of sneakers. They
9:51
had back and forth conversation which I did
9:53
with Eric meeting his father at the Sir
9:55
Stuart to purchase a new pursuers. on
9:59
january so Over
12:02
the next day, Ashley mentioned that Eric was
12:04
calling her with information about Brittany, but
12:08
she refused to answer his calls due to the previous
12:10
incident. The
12:12
next day, on January 21st, Ashley
12:15
texted someone, expressing
12:17
her belief that they
12:19
needed to find Brittany before Eric
12:21
did. On
12:24
January 22nd, 2019, Ashley
12:27
and Glide exchanged text messages. Ashley
12:31
accused Glide of only seeing her as a pretty thing
12:33
to have sex with, just like every
12:35
other guy. Glide
12:38
responded by saying that none of those people were
12:40
his friends, and that he believed Ashley
12:42
was crazy. He
12:44
also mentioned that he thought Ashley was jealous because
12:46
a friend, presumably Brittany,
12:49
was receiving attention. He
12:52
didn't believe anyone had tried to kill her, and thought
12:55
she just wanted to become someone special. Nine
12:59
minutes later, Ashley texted
13:01
Eric S, informing him that
13:03
Glide knows where his wife is, and
13:06
who took her. She
13:10
mentioned that there were photographs of his
13:12
friend's friend, taking Brittany from a gas station.
13:15
Ashley explained that she was now fed up
13:18
with being manipulated and strung along
13:20
by them. Ashley
13:22
continued to tell Eric S that
13:24
Glide told her Brittany was in a car somewhere,
13:28
and that she had been told she would have
13:30
enough evidence to be bulk to Brittany's body by
13:32
the end of the previous day. However,
13:35
she hadn't heard anything. She
13:37
claimed Glide was now throwing a tantrum. Ashley
13:40
concluded by saying that Glide was
13:43
afraid Brittany would excuse him, which
13:45
is why she disappeared. Is
14:00
that all this is? On
14:02
January 25th, 2019, Ashley
14:05
confirmed her ability to track her own vehicle,
14:08
which located the vehicle that Eric and JJ had
14:10
borrowed. What
14:13
are the questions that we take away from this
14:15
information? Why was
14:17
Eric texting the at-loss phone to
14:19
Britney's phone? Why
14:22
did Ashley need to hack more of Britney's accounts? Is
14:26
the timing of Eric needing new shoes odd? What
14:29
was the photo of the shoe prints in the snow? Why
14:32
are they comparing the sneaker to the prints in the snow? Perhaps
14:35
one of the most interesting questions. Why
14:38
Ashley said they need to find Britney before Eric
14:40
does? Does
14:43
this imply Ashley believes Eric
14:45
knows where Britney is? What
14:50
are your thoughts? And
14:52
if you're wondering, what was the correspondence
14:54
like on November 30th, 2018 from Ashley's phone?
15:00
Well, we can't see that. What
15:02
about her second phone? We
15:05
see the first activity on November 23rd
15:07
where this second phone receives a text.
15:10
The next text message comes in on November 25th.
15:14
Then there's a gap. From
15:16
November 25th into December 5th,
15:19
there are no text messages. The
15:22
first correspondence between Ashley's second
15:25
phone posts Britney's disappearance. Here's
15:28
a text from Eric. He
15:33
needs to use it. Google
15:36
data downloads let you choose the time frame
15:38
you're interested in. Similar to
15:41
Facebook. And as we
15:43
dive into Eric's Google activity, it
15:45
was surprising to find inconsistencies. Oh,
15:47
not surprising. Time
15:50
stamps were missable, so it didn't align as expected.
15:53
Then comes the twist in Eric's map
15:56
history. Initially,
15:58
Ashley claimed he did not know where this was. Susan
16:00
uses location services, but
16:03
mid-season her story shifted. She
16:06
suggested Eric had his location on, particularly
16:09
on the day Brittany disappeared. The
16:14
best thing tells me the husband's location is off,
16:18
then it changes. The
16:20
landlord confirmed this already. What
16:23
arrangement do you guys have? To
16:25
the public. Confirming
16:27
that you had Eric's November 30th
16:29
location history, he posted
16:31
about it on Reddit. And to
16:34
your surprise, the Google Takeout app
16:36
is provided or downloaded.
16:39
It shows much more of Eric's Google location history.
16:43
This Google Takeout wasn't
16:45
downloaded before I began investigating
16:47
Brittany's case. According
16:49
to Eric's location history, he was
16:52
in the area that Brittany went missing. On
16:55
the following dates that I can see. December
17:00
10th, 2018. Two
17:04
days after Brittany had been reported missing, a single
17:07
time stamp suggests Eric visited Grandma's.
17:12
More than likely, this is when Eric goes to
17:14
Grandma's, as Ashley put it. This
17:16
is when he gets a description. A
17:18
description that apparently doesn't fit children. Now
17:22
I thought about this time stamp. Is
17:24
that a singular? I
17:27
don't want to see more activity. Like
17:29
the other days we're about to discuss. December
17:32
19th. This aligns
17:34
when Cage returned from Florida and met Eric
17:36
and Jessica near Watt Road, along with other
17:38
search members of the parody. What
17:41
else looks after Cage? Eric
17:43
came into the phone. Or
17:46
the back of him. If
17:49
the story seems familiar, but not with the right
17:51
characters, you're just as confused as
17:53
I was. Recent
17:55
developments have shed new light on the situation. of
18:00
Eric's involvement in the search parties of Brittany,
18:02
but the consistency in the testimonies of JJ
18:04
and Cage about Eric finding the back of
18:07
a phone was perplexing. Both
18:10
asserted their presence during this discovery. Adding
18:13
to the confusion, Jessica appeared
18:15
uncertain about the specifics of the event and
18:18
who was actually there. Chris
18:20
and Jessica, known from episode one,
18:23
organized a search party on Facebook. Well,
18:26
contrary to my expectations, the event
18:28
didn't have a specific time for them. Naturally,
18:31
I thought it would be one day, a time
18:33
set, time to end. But
18:35
it spanned several days without a fixed time
18:38
for gathering and searching. I'm
18:40
fucking good at tensions, but plot execution.
18:44
I inferred that Eric joined the search on December 19th, which
18:47
coincided with Cage's return from Florida. Their
18:51
group assembled near Watt Road, close
18:53
to the ridge. And
18:55
as Cage later recounted, it was there
18:57
that Eric emerged solo from the woods.
19:01
Amendment Inc. for Cage. Cage
19:04
remembered Eric complaining of cold hands and his claim
19:06
of finding the back of a phone. Cage
19:10
remembers offering Eric a ride back to his car
19:12
from the bridge to the intersection of
19:14
on River and Watt Road. I
19:17
can tell you from being there, that's
19:19
a long trick there. As
19:22
Cage has shared with me, when
19:24
he's interacting with Jessica and Eric, this is at the end of the
19:26
search. So
19:29
why Eric denies the ride is unknown to Cage. The
19:33
plot thickens on December 23rd. During
19:36
a second search party, where
19:39
Eric is again central to significant discovery, the
19:42
back of another phone. This
19:45
time, JJ was present, JJ was present, offering
19:48
clarity to the previous conflicting accounts from
19:51
JJ and Cage. This
19:53
is the day Eric and JJ get pulled over and
19:55
Ashley get that prehanded. Oh,
19:57
and as for Ashley's reasoning on not participating on... in
20:00
the search. She claimed that she was
20:02
attending to a person who needs her children. These
20:05
are not searching for your best friend? It
20:07
can be reasonable. When
20:13
did Ashley ever search for her best friend? In
20:16
the area that Bortney went missing? Whoever.
20:21
As for the events on December 31st, Eric's
20:24
reasons for being in a specific area remain
20:27
closed. For
20:29
now, it's just to keep that information
20:31
confidential. In
20:34
Eric's Google takeout, over 34,000 pings
20:37
between the dates of December 5th and January
20:39
21st. The
20:42
obvious question, why is there
20:44
no location data before December 4th? Does
20:47
this admission not bother Eric, or
20:49
is he indifferent to this glaring gap? Over
20:52
34,000 pings, and
20:55
yet so many questions remain. Trust
20:58
me when I say this, we're
21:00
meticulously crossing our T's and dotting our I's
21:03
to uncover the truth behind these digital traces.
21:07
And then there's these. Okay,
21:10
Google. Text Ashley. Voice
21:13
Google Assistant. Wallmarble patch
21:16
tires for $10. Proof
21:20
of the Wi-Fi in Ashley's vehicle. Okay,
21:23
Google. Text now. Might
21:25
be my Wi-Fi connection too. Am
21:29
I assuming the Wi-Fi was in the car? It
21:32
could have been my Wi-Fi too. Since
21:36
I'm driving. Okay,
21:39
Google. I want to change your name. What
21:44
can I give you as a nickname? Can
21:50
I call you my wife? Okay,
21:55
Google. Text Ashley.
21:59
Can I... Start working on the card
22:01
you need it And
22:04
then there's this one where you can hear
22:06
Ashley in the background another
22:08
individual is present But
22:11
we don't know who it is. I Have
22:14
my guess No
22:30
She asked me over and over again where I hit
22:32
that All
22:40
he's asking for is a ride to
22:42
town dropped off somewhere to help look
22:45
for my wife Not
22:47
coming back here hanging out or
22:49
anything. He's gonna get dropped off somewhere else here in
22:51
town So he can go do his thing what?
22:55
Unlooking Well,
23:02
guess what I'm out here knocking on doors
23:05
that shouldn't be knocked on because Yeah
23:15
To shut off interior
23:17
lights when the
23:19
doors open on a Ford Explorer
23:22
2012 Oh Angel
23:28
County distract number river
23:38
Here's going I Was
23:47
told That
23:53
Might have been the one with her so that
23:56
would be another reason why she'd be going to Brunson
24:02
Until we figure out
24:04
who the person was
24:06
that was with her,
24:08
the motive of going to Bronson is
24:12
going to be hard to figure out. And
24:18
Daniel's the one that told me about him and
24:23
that he lives in Bronson. Because
24:28
I asked him if
24:31
he knew of anyone that
24:33
Britney would know him Bronson and that's
24:37
the only name he gave me. He's
24:44
a friend of Sheldon's. He was at Sheldon's house
24:46
the day I went
24:50
and talked to him. So
24:54
where do we go from here? I know
24:56
I'm not perfect by
24:59
any means. Do
25:05
take fault for
25:09
my actions when I know I'm
25:12
wrong. I may end up to
25:14
it. I want to talk to this dude. I
25:16
guess the question is
25:22
what is it you want to do from here? I'm
25:26
going to call. Do it for your
25:28
child, Eric. And
25:30
pick up the phone. Because
25:34
I was told you
25:36
didn't show up for the polygraph test. Okay
25:39
Google. Upon
26:08
my departure from the Sheriff's office, I
26:10
received explicit instructions not to actively engage
26:12
with Skyler or the related parties involved
26:15
in this case. To
26:17
clarify, it wasn't my intention to chase the
26:19
story. Rather,
26:21
the story itself gravitated towards me in
26:23
the unexpected turn of events. The
26:27
segment you're about to listen to features
26:29
an interview and testimony from
26:32
the individual currently experiencing significant
26:34
emotional turmoil, as the
26:36
material discussed may be intense or
26:38
emotionally triggering for some. Listener
26:41
discretion is advised. I
26:47
was told someone wanted to talk, so
26:49
I gave him my number. I'm
27:18
caught off guard.
27:23
Is he talking about Skyler? Who's
27:26
telling me the truth? That person is
27:29
already telling me everything about custody. His
27:32
life is in danger. My life is in danger.
27:34
Is this? I asked
27:36
what the person I'm speaking to is Skyler. I
27:38
know. No. I don't know.
27:40
I'm trying to send this out to
27:43
be going like I had something to
27:45
do with it. Like
27:48
dude, there are already have to be, man. They're already
27:50
trying to kill me. I'm
27:53
not involved. I was in prison, but
27:55
I'll be cheering for you. Okay, well
27:57
slow down for a second, man. These
30:01
people... ...they're here. And
30:05
you're about to open up something,
30:07
you know, you didn't want to get
30:09
involved with me. I'm
30:12
trying bro, there's more to this than what you,
30:15
what you were ever know. There
30:21
was a party that you mentioned that
30:23
you were at back in 2018 that
30:26
you ran into Eric and
30:28
Brittany and Brittany was there with Eric. Why
30:31
didn't he pull out a gun? He
30:35
got really drunk. He
30:38
was stoned into the house when he told him to get out and
30:41
he pulled a gun out of the army. We
30:44
took the gun away from him and we kicked him out of the house. They
30:49
killed him over $40 man. They
30:52
killed Brittany over $40. Help
30:54
me understand, how do you know that? Who's
31:00
they? They killed me.
31:04
There's more than one person involved.
31:06
I thought with the first person, who's the
31:08
person that told you? I
31:13
can't tell you what else. I
31:17
can't. This
31:20
person man, this guy is
31:22
worse than a dumb man. Let's
31:25
talk about the person who told you. Okay,
31:28
I'm not asking for a name right now,
31:30
but what I'm saying is this person is
31:33
responsible. Okay, okay, I'll
31:35
tell you this. I
31:38
was asked to present at
31:40
one of the correctional facilities. Have
31:44
you ever heard about me? And
31:47
I don't know. He
31:50
goes, look up Brittany's face and
31:54
then you'll know about me. He
31:56
goes, oh, you ever heard about her? You
31:58
Look it up and you get out. I
32:01
know, How did. You
32:03
might want to know. How
32:07
did you come up with the forty hours plus go back
32:09
to that. What was
32:11
said about the forty hours. His.
32:20
Decision. To
32:23
substances. Nerves.
32:25
Tell me what happened there, man. You
32:30
gotta help me Help you. Go
32:37
on trying to find I have ever were trying
32:39
to learn about what happened so I know the
32:41
truth to the I can get in contact with
32:43
people who can actually take action. Can you provide
32:45
me with anything that they share with you about
32:48
that night that she went missing? Well
32:51
as and. Six
33:03
dogs asked. If
33:22
it's ever. Ever
33:25
Also. Has
33:28
for the sauce. For
33:31
does is take her. Good
33:34
service. And
33:47
isn't. What the hell was
33:49
that about? Forty
33:52
Dollars and is the person he's
33:54
referring to telling all the stuff?
33:56
Is he talking My scanner? And
33:59
and. Mack on the phone. Nor
34:07
did they take it. Was.
34:22
An amount of from a favorite
34:24
is the most. Point,
34:27
What do I call you May? what's your
34:30
real? And besides I'm trying to build a
34:32
for some. Some
34:34
as you can tell he's in distress.
34:39
So busy came
34:41
the freezer section.
34:44
Of the same the situation you're in
34:46
are now are you around anybody? else
34:49
has asked. Okay,
34:56
To search for the
34:59
upper house. Hopefuls
35:02
is claiming the time he took
35:04
money on was on November thirtieth.
35:07
But it seems very on strange to say this.
35:15
As ordered, voters are. Supposed.
35:21
To dogs are too much
35:23
know you so britney somewhere
35:25
went on the same source
35:28
aware of a river of
35:30
is the only. Oh
35:32
come on man, if you're saying you drove
35:35
her some are you don't remember says you
35:37
can't even deeper measures are you are not.
35:54
Vote. For a
35:56
few months ago. Or
35:58
how did they befriended key. Meta. Analysis
36:03
from customer service at home. From
36:06
school suffered. From
36:09
severe. Forward.
36:11
And met her at her
36:13
house and as warmer or
36:16
books severance. Songs
36:18
on cast audience members.
36:21
Prisoner. From.
36:23
The Source Third, op. Group.
36:28
Absorb all. Or
36:31
or desirable Skills which was
36:33
also spare bedrooms. In
36:36
order, the source of the importance. Of
36:40
Saturn plant. Talks
36:44
about so. I
36:49
was as a result the term care
36:51
and serve a hard time seeing students
36:53
do be specific details about the to
36:55
the were been. Done.
36:58
What were the specific details? Because
37:01
he goes on share with me when he
37:03
heard. Since gruesome.
37:07
My don't says necessary to sir. Move!
37:10
Where did this? Having. Properties.
37:14
Do you the owner the property is. That
37:19
ought to be just as if we
37:21
we do to these reluctance money eventually
37:23
says name. Or
37:25
sea resort jump suburb. Or
37:29
know for some reason. Is
37:32
this is nice but you not tell
37:35
me who it is. As
37:39
his voice is in danger dance steps
37:41
of these are to see would have
37:43
been mystery man made some him and
37:46
give two fucks about his safety at
37:48
this point and was forced into a
37:50
source of our terms. of
37:53
sports has for it's so what's his
37:56
name's or events if he didn't do
37:58
it if he's He's not responsible and
38:00
he was forced into this thing who
38:02
man? If I mention their names, I'm
38:05
dead. It won't air it. It's
38:17
a little easy. As
38:21
far as the responsibility of this stuff. I
38:25
dropped Brittany off one night, way before she went
38:27
missing. Brittany
38:29
never went missing from surgery span. They
38:32
took her on that back road man. I
38:41
don't know that. Some of these teachers are getting old. I'm
38:47
taking off man. I'll take
38:49
it out because they're going to kill me man. I'm
38:58
not trying to protect them man. I'm trying
39:00
to protect my family man. I
39:12
feel like they're slowly killing the other ones.
39:16
They're people that are going
39:18
to end up dead before this ends. The
39:28
last two years are covering Brittany's case. Specifically
39:31
the ones named in Skyler's testimony. I
39:34
wasn't aware of this. One of those
39:36
individuals who passed away. I
39:39
already interviewed. That
39:41
interview has never been aired. So
39:44
Z claiming his friends are dying. That's
39:46
a fact. Is
39:49
what Z's telling me related to Skyler's
39:51
testimony? Well
39:53
you can help me prevent that my guy. This
39:58
isn't going to just like be something. You can
40:00
ignore that is goes away on
40:02
orchard want. To
40:08
be recidivism. Tbd.
40:13
I was taught. Me
40:15
off or what was going on.
40:20
And let me be eyes at the about
40:22
that kz I feel like wait, what? you're
40:24
sharing with me. I'm
40:27
trying to figure out how much of it's true
40:29
and how much the same reason. To
40:33
want to put a person the unknown. Okay
40:37
so let's was together on that in order
40:39
for us to be able to clear that's
40:41
confusing is for us to be able to
40:43
share of mess with us or so. I
40:47
will sell you some information I have
40:49
and know if it smells so you'd
40:51
understand or know to trust me. it's
40:53
I'm asked to trust me as well.
40:59
Do. You know, This.
41:03
Ask if you know Skyler. On
41:06
of of of them. Must
41:09
suck about individuals who are you sure
41:11
are are responsible use in there is
41:13
one person who came to while you
41:16
were also in jail that was saying
41:18
ya know that is an was like
41:20
onto fertile born to people of have
41:23
a what about the person that he
41:25
feels responsible I met him. Purposes
41:28
of time you everything approximates
41:30
on departures has been thrown
41:33
you officer for she's. It's
41:36
a male. Skyler, When
41:41
about him? He
41:49
introduce you to the dude who's responsible
41:51
for brings his parents. When
41:58
more did you meet him? New.
42:06
Yeah. I
42:14
had to have you. And
42:17
of. As. The
42:23
garden but you said need it now. Are
42:27
you have. Club
42:29
me what's his Roman. Yes,
42:37
I do this on time cigarette with
42:40
you once. What's this individual name? Hermosa
42:42
Greener should be gone through the roof.
42:49
How useful! Last, and. Try
42:52
to be about it. Of
42:57
press x y or.
43:01
Last supporters morse
43:03
her body. Produces.
43:09
Scale. I like to know for all
43:12
three places that you're talking about. Seizures.
43:17
Who is again in the dumpster? Your
43:21
cursor is. Three
43:25
out. On.
43:30
For thousand dollars have some
43:32
food. Soldier was forty dollars.
43:36
Have already given names. Has no Fitness
43:38
Hydrant now? For.
43:48
Us was. Carnival.
43:59
or That's
44:03
what they call him. It's
44:07
dangerous. What
44:11
does he say about the $40? You
44:17
know, everyone owed me a $40. That's
44:21
what we're talking about. I
44:25
need you to pay him $40. You
44:29
ever heard of Britney Shake? She's
44:34
missing. Okay,
44:37
what's that have to do with me? Look
44:41
it up. Then
44:44
you'll know who I am. You
44:46
got rid of Britney for $40. He
44:51
goes, I need you to pay over $40. What
44:56
do you think I'll do over $100? I
44:59
need to know. I really would like to know where
45:01
the property that. And
45:04
if you're saying that they've been after you already and you're
45:06
in fear that they've run to go after your family like
45:09
being quiet and continuing to stay quiet would
45:11
be for what? Is
45:22
that who you're talking about? I just need you to text
45:24
message. Yeah,
45:27
that's him. Keep
45:31
going. I'm
45:34
sorry. Somebody's down,
45:37
sir. I'm
45:42
sorry that this happened. You
45:46
were just a little responsible for all
45:49
this. I wrapped up my call with Z and I'll
45:51
be honest. That's
45:54
left me with more questions than answers. What's
45:57
he spewing nonsense? Sharing
45:59
half the truth. Or, is
46:01
he more involved than he lets on? I'm not too much
46:03
because of me. People
46:06
are dying. His testimony is
46:08
zig zagged all over the place. I
46:10
know over the next few weeks, Z and I
46:12
exchanged a couple texts. One
46:14
weekend, while I was with my family, an
46:17
unknown number called me. I
46:19
didn't pick up. On Monday, I
46:22
discovered it was Z, and he wasn't
46:24
pleased with my slow response. Our
46:27
conversation turned sour fast. Oh,
46:29
now you want to talk to me. Nah, you
46:31
had your chance earlier, and you called
46:33
me crazy. You're
46:35
too stupid to seek the truth. Someone is
46:38
calling the shots and telling others to tell you this or
46:40
that. They're leading you down rabbit
46:42
trails and spinning you from the real truth. Alright,
46:45
you want to pick and choose when you talk to me?
46:48
Now you're getting prideful. You
46:50
had your chance? Is thinking
46:52
about yourself, not Brittany. I've
46:55
probably died in a way that you can't fathom. So
46:57
unless you got something that you want to share, quit
47:00
fucking playing games with me. Fuck
47:03
off you bitch ass. You've been one dragging
47:05
it out for almost two years of looking for her. Selfless
47:08
ass bitch. You know what? Let
47:10
me catch you in Sturgis, and we'll see what happens
47:12
then. And if why I? Don't
47:15
ever be alone. Don't
47:18
let that tough guy. Who called who,
47:20
Cryin'? Claiming they're after me. They
47:22
can't say who. They're killing all
47:24
my friends. You can't say
47:26
who they are. And
47:28
I'm chasing rabbit trails, huh? Brit's
47:30
got her name out because of what we've done. What
47:33
the fuck you care how long it's been? You
47:35
seem to forget the real timeline. Aw,
47:38
Jess, in the last two years, Brittany's
47:40
been gone for five. Just a little
47:43
perspective for ya. Don't ever
47:45
be alone. Keep that
47:47
same energy. Where
47:52
does this lead? I don't know. But
47:54
I've done what I can. I've handed
47:56
over the entire interview to law enforcement. Depending
48:00
on the day, Z and
48:02
I continue to communicate. Just
48:04
when you think the case can't twist any further, it does.
48:10
It's like peeling an onion, layer
48:12
after unsettling layer. Expect
48:15
the unexpected, as
48:17
the mystery unfolds in ways that you won't see
48:19
coming. Because as you should know
48:21
by now, it should never go
48:23
smoothly. Stay
48:27
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48:38
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