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2:40

from the Top.

3:04

All right, thank you, Captain Tall John,

3:07

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3:09

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3:12

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3:15

a big shout out to Quinn for that theme

3:17

song. Thank you to our producer

3:19

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3:22

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3:24

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3:26

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3:29

Keep them short. You know the drill,

3:31

people. Let's get into it. Last week, we talked

3:33

at length about

3:35

View from the Top, a movie that according

3:38

to Discord user Vinod S should

3:40

have had the tagline, The Mile

3:43

Why Club. That's right, The Mile

3:46

Why Club. All right, well, we

3:48

had questions about View from the Top. I

3:50

always want to say View at the Top. It's from

3:52

the top. And, you know, we might have even missed

3:54

a few things. Here's your chance to set us

3:57

straight. Fact check us, if you will.

3:59

It is now time.

3:59

for corrections and omissions.

4:04

["The

4:18

Afrof

4:41

I

4:55

like that he is immortal and he has to live

4:57

with never being able to

5:00

fly a plane You bring up something interesting

5:02

which is this movie

5:04

does not treat anyone

5:06

with an eye issue With any respect.

5:09

I mean it is it is treated

5:11

Really aggressively

5:13

like a joke and putting Marty Feldman

5:16

in there and Peter Falk Sammy

5:18

Davis jr. All against their wishes they

5:20

didn't want to be in this movie They didn't want their eyes

5:23

to be part of comedy, but then

5:25

they were they did it all anyway

5:27

birdie writes I've been a flight attendant since 1996

5:30

my first manual for a small Charter

5:33

airline did have a weight chart dictating

5:35

how much you could weigh for your height during a training

5:37

We were told not to worry about it And that rule was never

5:39

enforced as it was already a vestige

5:42

of a prior error I have heard stories

5:44

from flight attendants that flew during that time that they

5:46

would have to regularly weigh in at their headquarters

5:49

and Would get removed from the line if they

5:51

were overweight. Hope this answers

5:53

Jason's question You know interesting

5:55

you brought that up that is crazy, but

5:58

also what I will say is I have been

5:59

on flights where they have moved

6:02

around passengers like Jenga

6:04

pieces to distribute the weight

6:06

evenly on an airplane. That still

6:10

is in the mix. I remember one time

6:12

our flight got delayed from coming home and they

6:14

put us on a small propeller plane and

6:17

it was all about weighing luggage

6:20

and people and I had to sit away

6:22

from June. June had to sit up in the front.

6:24

It was wild to see how

6:27

much math was going on to just

6:29

fly us across from

6:31

one island to another and we were scared shitless.

6:35

Anyway, George Glass writes, I didn't understand

6:37

the obvious solution to Gwyneth Paltrow's dilemma

6:39

at the end. Why couldn't she just work

6:42

for the first class international routes out of Cleveland?

6:44

I mean, they go out of their way to say it's an international

6:47

airport. She could have easily have done her

6:49

routes and still headed home to Cleveland

6:51

during her turnaround.

6:53

Also, isn't one of the perks of being

6:55

a flight attendant getting free personal

6:57

travel? In the two seconds I considered that

6:59

career, that was the allure. I guess

7:01

you would have free personal travel, but I don't know

7:04

if you could fly other people or maybe

7:06

when you, I know that back in the day, Rob

7:08

Hubel's dad was a pilot and he could

7:11

fly his kids for free in the

7:13

jump seats. I think they've gotten a little bit

7:16

more strict with that, but

7:18

I don't know if you could bring your whole family. You get

7:20

personal travel, but yes, to your point, this

7:23

movie makes no sense. The fact that she

7:25

becomes a pilot is aggressively

7:27

dumb. Anyway, let's go to the phones.

7:29

Alex from LA. Hey,

7:31

Paul, this is Alex from LA.

7:34

You're completely right about the small cheese

7:36

pizza. I worked in a pizza place and

7:39

people who said that are, there's

7:41

something wrong with them. I'm not sure what it is, but

7:44

they are off. And I've asked

7:46

before why they would say

7:48

it and they said, because cheese isn't

7:50

a guarantee. Nowhere did it say

7:53

that the pizza would have cheese on it. Strange

7:55

justification, but just thought

7:57

maybe that would help from a former.

7:59

people from your outfit. What

8:02

are you talking about? Regular pie is

8:04

a cheese pizza. If you're going to order

8:07

something like a grandma pie or you're

8:09

going to order, you know, one of these fancy

8:12

pies,

8:13

that's where you get into like, oh, maybe it's more

8:15

of a red sauce based or, but that's fancy.

8:18

Regular pizza,

8:20

regular cheese pizza. I

8:22

don't know.

8:23

I don't know. Now I'm all confused.

8:25

One large pizza, please. That's

8:27

all I would say. Pizza is

8:29

guaranteed to have cheese on it. The amount of

8:32

cheese is different. And that's where I'm going to take

8:34

you to task because every

8:36

pizza has cheese on

8:38

it.

8:39

Everyone

8:40

besides the square of grandma pie. Anyway, Jenna

8:43

from Atlanta, what do

8:43

you got? Hi Paul, this is Jenna from Atlanta.

8:46

I had to pause the podcast, a few

8:49

from the top just to answer this question

8:51

because it's been so very

8:53

important. Flight attendants

8:56

at a certain airline that I work with, I create

8:58

training for them. They have to

9:00

have their hair pulled up above

9:02

their shoulders. If they have longer

9:05

hair, they have to be in a ponytail or a bun.

9:08

And yes, the flight attendants, when they're

9:11

even interviewing, do you have their hair

9:13

pulled up in a bun most of the

9:15

time? Nobody has their hair down.

9:18

You see it on campus all the time. Everybody's

9:20

hair is up.

9:21

So just wanted to give you that information.

9:24

I love your show. Thank you so much. Love you June.

9:26

Bye.

9:27

Really? Wow.

9:30

This is shocking. More

9:33

details about what is going on in

9:35

the flight attendant industry. We're talking about

9:38

weighing and hair above

9:40

the shoulders. I wonder, is that a safety issue? Jenna,

9:43

you can't answer, but I'm going to ask that again

9:45

to the world. Uh, this is Dan,

9:48

a pilot from Georgia. Hey Paul, this is Dan

9:50

Cohen from Georgia about a view

9:52

from the top. I have a little context for that

9:54

last scene. It still doesn't make any sense,

9:56

but I can tell you as a, as

9:58

a pilot myself.

9:59

which she says that she

10:02

is flying for Royalty

10:04

Express, not Royalty

10:06

Airlines, which implies that she's flying for a regional

10:09

airline. Royalty Express is probably

10:11

a subsidiary airline owned by

10:13

Royalty, which you can actually

10:16

get rated to fly for for

10:18

less than 1,500 hours, and they might

10:20

have bases in smaller cities, places

10:22

like Cleveland, for pilots to originate

10:24

their trips from. So there's a little bit of,

10:26

there was a little bit of intentionality there, but I don't think

10:28

it really landed. Anyway, love the show. First

10:31

time, long time. Okay,

10:32

so it does make sense, but not,

10:35

it looks like the fight that she is flying

10:37

is like a big, like a John Travolta 747. That,

10:40

it doesn't seem like that's a small little one, but

10:43

I get what you're saying, like maybe it's like a mom-and-pop thing,

10:45

like, oh, you fly a little bit, you do, like,

10:47

I know that the one time I was

10:49

on a private jet,

10:52

there was like a little bit of a,

10:54

oh, I am the flight

10:56

attendant and I'm also the pilot, like they did some

10:58

dual duties, like at least the co-pilot

11:00

did. I'm pretty sure about that. Anyway, we'll

11:03

see. All right, let's take a phone call from Marcus

11:06

from Niagara Falls. Hey Paul, it's

11:08

Marcus from Niagara Falls, New York. I'm just

11:10

calling because I noticed the

11:13

soundtrack for View from the Top has

11:15

a lot of songs that were familiar

11:17

to everybody, but not by the original

11:19

artist. You know, time after time, not by Cindy

11:23

Lauper, you've got Celebration, not by Cool

11:25

and the Gang,

11:26

and you also have Don't Stop

11:28

Believing by A Journey cover band. I

11:33

am surprised and I'm

11:35

a little let down that you didn't notice this one, Paul. All right,

11:38

thanks. That's all. Bye. Wait a second.

11:41

What? I don't know how I missed

11:43

that. How did I not know? Oh, wow.

11:47

That bums me out. I mean, I know we talked about

11:50

the song, but I didn't realize that they were all cover

11:52

bands. Oh, brother, this movie gets

11:54

better and better. Back to the Discord. All right,

11:56

Mitch Kappa writes, I think it

11:58

was a confusing choice to make.

11:59

Candace Bergen's character married to a rich

12:02

builder. Was she so

12:04

successful because she was the most famous flight

12:06

attendant in the world? Or was she married into

12:08

money? Was the message the

12:11

best you could hope for in that job was to meet

12:13

a rich husband in first class? Well, by

12:15

the way, that makes sense because being

12:18

the most famous flight attendant

12:20

in the world doesn't mean anything. That's

12:22

not a thing. I'm sorry. Not

12:25

even the most famous pilot in the world

12:27

is a thing.

12:28

Sully was that. And that's

12:31

it.

12:31

And he got that for saving people's

12:33

lives, but it's not like he's getting

12:35

a salary bump. I think you're right. And

12:38

I think this movie has weird

12:40

morals. I think this movie was supposed to be

12:42

a period piece. I'm almost confident of

12:44

it. I've been thinking about this movie a lot. And

12:47

I feel like this is supposed to be in an era,

12:49

a bygone era. And then they realized,

12:52

oh, you know what? That's too weird to do a period piece. It'd

12:54

be too expensive. And they cheaped out, they updated

12:56

it, and it doesn't make sense. Anyway,

12:59

New Blue Goo writes, I have estritopia. It's

13:01

the same

13:01

type of, I'm gonna mispronounce

13:04

this, but Strabismus

13:06

eye disorder as Mike Myers' character.

13:09

The movie's representation of how it affects a

13:11

person was not surprisingly

13:14

pretty bad. Yeah,

13:16

thank you. Like when he'd point

13:18

at one of his eyes and ask, oh no,

13:20

is it this one? As if he didn't know which

13:23

of his own eyes was turned inward,

13:25

or the way he would read stuff which would give him double

13:27

vision and some wonky depth

13:30

perception. But he wouldn't need to

13:32

stare at something super close from weird

13:34

angles like he was doing. Also, it's

13:37

a pretty correctable condition and

13:39

not so debilitating as to keep

13:41

someone from being a flight attendant. I

13:43

wear glasses with a prism in one lens

13:45

that

13:46

forces the lazy eye straight. And I also

13:48

had a surgery done to shorten one of the muscles

13:50

in my eye. The only time where

13:53

I related to Mike Myers' character was

13:55

when he broke down about eye exams.

13:57

Eye exams, eye exams. I hate.

14:00

eye exams too. Well, thank you, new

14:02

blue goo, for giving us that

14:05

perspective. Not that anyone was looking at Mike

14:07

Myers as being a perfect

14:10

representation of what estratopia

14:12

is, but thank you for letting us know that

14:14

it's not even based in any

14:16

kind of research. Like, not even one

14:19

iota. Maybe he would have a funny

14:21

pair of glasses with a prism in it. You know, he could do

14:24

that, but no, he didn't do anything besides, I'm

14:26

gonna cross my eye, that's my character choice.

14:28

Anyway, Just Anna writes, did anyone

14:31

else think that Qweneth flying the plane at

14:33

the end was not meant to be taken literally, but

14:35

rather figuratively? Wait

14:37

a second, Just Anna, what are you saying? Now

14:40

she's the pilot of her own life, she's

14:42

in control, and she has her co-pilot.

14:44

Nothing else in the movie suggested she wants

14:46

to be a pilot. It seems like an attempt to be quirky

14:49

and uplifting, rather than a plot

14:51

choice. Hmm,

14:54

hmm, hmm.

14:56

My gut is the ending tested

14:59

flat, they needed something, so they

15:01

threw in a cockpit and they had to turn back, because

15:03

if your point is right, then

15:05

I believe her boyfriend

15:07

slash husband, I don't know what they decided to be, Mark

15:10

Ruffalo would be the co-pilot in that scenario,

15:12

but he wasn't, and if he was, then I

15:14

would buy your ending. Uh, alright,

15:17

so many great questions and omissions

15:19

this week, but I can only pick one, and

15:21

that's the one that

15:23

really opened my eyes, that

15:25

really helped me understand something that I didn't

15:27

know, and you know what,

15:28

what are you gonna get for this? What are you gonna get for illuminating

15:31

me and our audience? You're gonna get a great song from

15:34

Casey Campbell, and this week the winner

15:36

will be New Blue Goo, New

15:39

Blue Goo, thank you for shutting down

15:41

Mike Myers' representation of Estratopia,

15:44

and now you get to rock out to Casey

15:46

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16:01

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16:05

all you're getting. All

16:12

right, if you want to submit a tagline like Vinod S

16:14

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16:16

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16:19

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16:26

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16:36

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16:38

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16:43

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They need it. They're ready for

21:35

it. The audience is falling apart.

21:38

Now I haven't listened to these. Scott,

21:40

you know, went through all of our voicemails,

21:43

picked a couple, and I'm just going to tell you that

21:45

the titles of them are getting me excited.

21:48

Great. I'm not even reading the titles,

21:50

so will you read them aloud? Yes. Well,

21:52

we will be hearing first from Chris

21:55

in Pennsylvania, and the title

21:57

is simply Luggage.

21:59

Hi Paul, this is Chris

22:03

from PA. I went on a

22:05

trip to a business conference last

22:08

year and all my

22:10

luggage got destroyed. American

22:12

Airlines or whoever they were, you

22:14

know, whatever, just destroyed.

22:17

Inside completely blown out, I need new luggage. I'm

22:19

going to the same conference this year and

22:22

I'm shopping around and I thought, hey, maybe

22:24

I could ask you and Jason since you

22:26

guys love your bag so much

22:28

for some advice. Just looking for some

22:30

basic luggage advice for flying

22:33

that'll, you know, survive.

22:35

Have a good one. All right. First

22:37

of all, Jason, he came to the right place. I want to say this. Thank

22:40

God American Airlines, not a sponsor of the

22:42

show. Oh yeah. I don't know

22:44

how lug I've never had that.

22:47

He said, he said, he got destroyed

22:50

and then said it like, well, you know, I was just

22:52

one of the unlucky people. Like, that doesn't happen.

22:55

Like he came down to the luggage carousel

22:57

and it was just like all of his clothes

23:00

and everything was just spread all over the floor

23:02

of the like destroyed. Do you

23:04

remember there was

23:05

a commercial when I was a kid, I think it

23:07

was for American tourist or luggage

23:09

where they would have a gorilla jumping on

23:12

like a suitcase. That does

23:14

sound familiar, but I don't quite. Yeah,

23:16

it was like behind the wall at the airport.

23:18

That's the gorilla. But you and

23:20

I, I would argue, went to

23:23

one of the

23:24

weirdest places to get our luggage. We

23:26

were in Telluride, so we had to fly into

23:28

Montrose in Colorado and

23:30

they are doing airport

23:32

work. So they basically just

23:34

had us outside in the snow

23:36

and they would just pull up trucks and

23:39

like, you never saw your luggage. We

23:41

got to see the inside of how like a luggage

23:43

is treated. It's like when people put like

23:45

a GoPro, turn it on with their in their

23:47

luggage just to see how their bags get

23:50

treated. And it's just hilarious. And

23:52

we got to see it up close. And I felt like that was

23:54

the first time I was like, oh wow, you really get to see

23:56

how manhandled

23:59

these bags are.

23:59

And that was also in front of a live audience, as

24:02

we all are waiting for our bags. And they didn't even

24:04

hold back. But I've never had a luggage

24:07

break.

24:07

I've never had that. Have

24:09

you ever? No, no. I haven't. I

24:11

mean, not in that context. I've had

24:14

a wheel break or a handle break or

24:16

something like that. But I've never had

24:18

anything get destroyed, as he said. Well,

24:21

I want to talk to you about this, because I feel like

24:23

you travel with

24:25

untraditional large

24:27

bags. I know we

24:29

both have our backpacks and

24:31

stuff like that. But I feel like your large

24:34

bags are not a traditional suitcase

24:36

or often don't see them as a- Is it like my roller bags, you mean? Yeah.

24:39

Yeah. Or am I wrong on that? I mean,

24:41

they are pretty traditional in the sense

24:44

that I think we both, because they were

24:46

a sponsor on the show, have used the Away bags. Oh, yes. So

24:50

I've used those. I

24:53

also use a roller Ramoa

24:56

bag that

24:56

is one of the hard shell

24:59

bags. I

25:01

like a hard shell. Me too. I

25:03

think more and more, because I'm traveling

25:05

with stuff that I want to be a little bit protected.

25:08

Yeah.

25:10

But I mean, I'm trying to think. I'm

25:13

trying to think for Chris in Pennsylvania.

25:17

Pennsylvania. I

25:19

would look at those Away bags. And there's another-

25:21

you know what? The Away bags are solid.

25:23

They are just solid. I would say the bigger ones,

25:26

not as good as the smaller ones. Oh,

25:30

I don't know about- I don't know that. I

25:32

only have the carry-on size. See, I had

25:34

the big one. And I had that same

25:37

idea, like, oh, I really want a nice big hard

25:39

shell bag. And I love the Away bags.

25:42

But I got the big one. And I just felt

25:45

it got banged up a lot. Banged

25:48

up, not destroyed. And it just wasn't

25:50

as solid. Now, I'll tell you this.

25:52

June spent

25:54

a lot of money. This is a thing that I won't

25:57

even spend the money on. And you know, I love bags. She

25:59

got her- a Tumi

26:02

bag. Sure. And

26:04

that thing, she got the carry

26:06

on version of it, but it carries

26:09

so much. It's almost like a

26:11

bag made of packing cubes.

26:13

Like you can kind of open it and do things to it.

26:16

And I believe Jessica Sinclair also

26:18

has one that's almost like a dresser,

26:20

like you pull it up. Like so you can,

26:22

like, so I've seen those. I won't

26:24

spend the money on those, but those are impressive bags.

26:27

Yeah, I have a Tumi bag, a

26:29

roller Tumi bag from year, for that

26:31

I had for years that started to get

26:33

a little old, but those are incredibly

26:36

well-built bags. They are

26:38

expensive. Like

26:39

of the ones we're mentioning, like Tumi and

26:41

Ramoa, these are more expensive

26:43

bags, but the... But

26:46

why not? Get one, you'd be good. That's what

26:48

I was just gonna say. The idea of

26:51

you're gonna travel in this, it's gonna get beat up.

26:53

And luggage is something that it's gonna

26:56

last for a very long time. If

26:58

you want it to, you can have

27:01

that piece of luggage for the next 15

27:03

years if you buy a Tumi bag, versus

27:06

some of these other things that are maybe perhaps less

27:09

expensive

27:09

are... It's so funny, you

27:11

and I just Googled the exact same thing. Well,

27:13

I was gonna say, cause this is...

27:16

Well, people can't see it, but this

27:19

is the bag that I

27:21

have used. Cause we were talking about like, and

27:23

I'm like, what bag do I use that I really like? And

27:25

it's this Travel Pro Platinum

27:28

Elite 25 inch expandable spinner

27:30

suitor, which is a

27:32

bag that I found off

27:34

of Wirecutter, which is a website we

27:37

use a lot. And it's not a hard

27:39

bag, but it is a soft

27:41

bag that I use. It has a hard... Bag.

27:44

Like a case. Yeah, hard bag, back and the sides.

27:47

I love this bag. Like this Travel Pro, and

27:49

it's 365 bucks on Amazon. It's

27:52

great. I am a big, big fan of

27:54

this bag. Yeah, these are great bags. Travel

27:57

Pro, I mean, this is a company that's been making

27:59

rollers.

27:59

luggage forever, you know? Like

28:02

from the... Do you remember when... Do you

28:05

remember when you started to see roller

28:07

luggage bags that weren't

28:10

just for pilots? You know what I mean? That was

28:12

like... Yeah, we lived in the Stone

28:14

Age. Yeah. You had like a real... Like

28:16

I remember I had a suitcase, like a full

28:19

long thin suitcase that

28:21

had wheels on it. And that made no

28:23

sense. With a strap that you might put on like

28:25

a dog or something. Yes! Oh

28:28

my God. No, I think these

28:29

are all great options that we're giving in. There's now

28:32

I believe a couple

28:34

of competitors to the Away

28:36

bag that are also good, that

28:39

I think also get well reviewed. The

28:42

only thing I think about that

28:43

is the idea of durability,

28:47

lifetime durability really. Yes. You know, I

28:49

think that's really it. Like this TravelPro

28:51

or a Toomey bag or even some of the

28:54

bigger, tougher Samsonite bags are

28:56

going to last perhaps longer

28:59

than an Away bag. Maybe. And

29:01

what I'll say about my TravelPro... I don't know if they're still a sponsor.

29:04

No, they aren't and they haven't been for a while. So we

29:06

can... You're listening to a very unfiltered opinion

29:08

here. I will say this. I'm down

29:10

to replace my TravelPro every couple of years.

29:13

I do a lot of

29:13

traveling, as do you. So

29:16

that gets a lot... Like

29:19

there's something about this $300

29:21

bag that if I can

29:23

get three or four years out of it, I'm happy to

29:25

be like, and then I'll get a new one. Like I'll get a... I will

29:27

kind of replace

29:28

it. Especially because

29:31

you travel so much. Right. Exactly. For

29:33

people like we're on the road, we're

29:35

doing a lot of dates a year, we're traveling

29:37

a lot. These bags get destroyed over

29:40

time. You know? Yeah. They will just get the

29:42

wear and tear. Like I have a handle that was this

29:44

sticky. Did not know how to fix that.

29:46

Like it was just like I kind of melted or something.

29:48

I've had to get my handles replaced on bags

29:50

before. And that is, I will say that's a good thing about

29:52

a lot of these companies. Like we're

29:55

talking about is their customer

29:57

service is very good. So

29:58

a wheel breaks off. you can just send it back,

30:00

they'll send it to you. They'll do those repairs.

30:03

They are, so that they're interested

30:06

in your bag lasting

30:08

a while. There are a lot of now pretty

30:11

solid gear companies like Patagonia now

30:13

has a roller bag. Filson

30:15

has a roller bag. Mystery Ranch has

30:18

a roller bag. A lot of like high-end

30:20

gear companies now make roller bags

30:22

that are pretty great. I'll buy a bag from anybody.

30:24

Like you turn me on to that. The

30:27

bag that I love is, and

30:29

I'll forget, so tell

30:29

me now, the guy from MythBusters.

30:34

Oh, Adam Savage. Adam Savage is bad.

30:36

The Adam Savage, like the tool bag, yeah. That tool

30:38

bag is one of, it's right here, is one of my

30:40

favorite bags. And it's like, that is, I mean,

30:42

that's not a travel bag, but like,

30:45

I believe in anyone to like get a bag, a

30:49

backpack or a thing like that, I'll buy anything there. But

30:51

for luggage, I want a company that's been

30:53

around for a while. I want like, I

30:56

don't know why I have an old fashioned opinion about it, but I'm

30:58

like, you should be making bags for

31:00

a bit. I want somebody who understands

31:03

bags. Yes, I'm like, this is your

31:05

business. I understand and I can

31:07

appreciate that. It's, you know, that's kind of, a

31:10

lot of the stuff I love

31:11

is exactly that. They've been making these

31:13

bags for years, like the Ramoa luggage, all that kind

31:15

of stuff. But I do get, I get

31:18

excited when I'm like, ooh, this

31:21

mystery ranch is making, like one of my favorite

31:23

backpack companies, they're making a, if

31:25

Tom Bin ever made a roller bag, I'd

31:27

be all over it. I would get that one. Mystery

31:29

Ranch, I got to look at that. I'll tell you the bag that really came

31:32

in for me recently, and

31:35

again, it's a backpack, is

31:38

a,

31:38

is that Topo bag. I'm loving

31:40

my Topo backpack. Topo makes a roller bag

31:42

now, a soft shell roller bag that

31:45

is very colorful. They're kind

31:47

of bold colorways. I

31:49

haven't seen it in the, in reality,

31:51

I've just seen it online. So I don't have any experience

31:53

with it. If you go to the Denver airport, there's a whole

31:56

Topo store there. And

31:58

I was, and like.

31:59

This is the worst thing ever. My,

32:02

my, we were coming back from vacation and

32:05

my kids, they both got

32:07

a stomach virus, but they got it like

32:09

one of them got it on third. We were leaving on

32:12

Saturday. One got it on Thursday.

32:14

One got it on Saturday. And I was

32:16

up.

32:17

They were puking and shitting. And this

32:20

is, you know, it's wonderful to be a dad. It's, you

32:22

know, but when they're just like, like,

32:24

like, you know, it's like, oh, God. And,

32:27

you know, I'm like, I'm on my hands and knees getting

32:29

everything up.

32:30

But we were in the airport and my oldest

32:32

son had like,

32:33

he hadn't picked for a while, but he'd gotten everything out

32:36

of his system. I knew he'd gotten everything out of his system. And

32:38

and he was like, Dad, I got to go to the bathroom.

32:40

I'm like, I buddy, I know you got nothing

32:42

in there. I was like, I'll go to the bathroom with you. And,

32:45

you know, and I'm like, let's go. And then I saw that

32:47

topo store. And

32:49

I was like, and he's still not

32:52

feeling good. I'm like, oh, buddy, you know what we should do? Like, let's

32:54

go look at this topo store for a second. We should

32:56

go look at these pouches, packing cubes and

32:58

backpacks. I literally took any

33:01

and I will to his credit, he was like, he really

33:03

liked the store. And I

33:03

think it took his mind off of his like his

33:06

just stomach. I will say that

33:08

that topo store was ground zero for

33:10

a norovirus outbreak. He

33:13

was wearing his mask. He was. But it was such

33:16

a funny thing. I was like, I never had seen a topo

33:18

store and I wanted to go in so bad that I

33:20

took my sick child. I was like, I

33:22

was like, I got it. I got it. Like I've been cleaning

33:24

puke off the floor for the last two nights. I

33:27

need a moment here to look at some bags.

33:29

And I and I couldn't even rest in the store. I

33:31

was like, oh, my mind, I'm in a mental

33:33

note when I go through

33:33

Denver again. I'm going to hit this topo store. So

33:38

it was such a moment. That's incredible.

33:41

That's very funny. Stupid. Oh, yes.

33:44

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33:46

peanut butter cups. I love them. They are

33:48

the perfect combination of peanut butter and chocolate.

33:50

When you want something sweet, you really can't

33:53

do any better

33:54

than Reese's. Trust me, I know I love

33:57

these. OK, they are truly.

33:59

the perfect candy, I mean, the perfect

34:02

ratio of chocolate and just

34:04

the right amount of peanut butter. This

34:06

is science in motion.

34:09

Plus you could eat them in different ways. You can

34:11

kind of put your finger in it, make it like a donut.

34:14

You can kind of eat it around the sides, break

34:16

it a half, give it to your partner. I mean,

34:18

Reese's can be shared with

34:21

anyone because everyone loves

34:24

Reese's. Here's a hot tip. It's actually a cold tip. Throw

34:26

those Reese's in the freezer in the summer

34:29

and throw them in the fridge just

34:31

any time of year. Whenever I'm on

34:33

a camping trip or going out with friends, I've put

34:35

them in the cooler and people are so

34:38

excited that they are there. Plus I will admit

34:40

this right now very freely. When my kids

34:42

go trick or treating, I definitely go through their bags

34:44

and steal all their Reese's because you

34:47

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34:49

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All right, let's, I

36:02

think we gave them some good examples here. Yeah, I think

36:04

in terms of like roller luggage or whatever,

36:06

I think that's great. If you are

36:09

a,

36:09

if you are in need of a backpack to accompany

36:12

that, I'll just keep recommending

36:14

Tom Bin, the cynic, either

36:16

of the two cynic bags, depending on how big

36:18

you need a backpack to be. My Tom Bin

36:21

bag, they sent me one of these. And

36:23

this is not, you know, like, again, I, we

36:25

talk about these bags, people have been very nice

36:27

sometimes, they'll send us a bag. I went on

36:29

a, just a day trip. I don't

36:31

really do this. Gus and I went up to San

36:33

Francisco together. Oh, wow. And

36:35

it was super fun. We went to go see a Warriors game. Basketball

36:38

game. Yeah, basketball game. And I just,

36:39

I never had just packed a backpack. Oh,

36:41

the best. Like just, you know, and I was like, oh, this

36:44

is so fun. Like this, and that bag. Oh

36:46

yeah. Well, your hands free. Yeah. And

36:49

it was, and it was, I had everything and it was, and that

36:51

gave me a different appreciation of how

36:54

roomy that Tom Bin bag is

36:56

for not only your clothes and your stuff

36:59

and your toiletries, but also whatever things

37:01

that you might need on an airplane. Oh yeah. And

37:03

when you can get there, like, you know, Rick

37:06

Steves, the, the travel guy,

37:08

Rick Steves is big on this. When you can get

37:10

to a point of single bag

37:12

travel, a

37:13

bag that will just fit on

37:15

your back that you can go any, like that you

37:17

could take any trip with a week long trip, but

37:19

just with one bag, your hands

37:22

free. That's the goal. Well, the only

37:24

thing that is

37:25

really holding that up for me

37:28

is

37:29

lotions and liquids, whatever I need

37:32

for a look. And and

37:34

wires. Shoes. For me it's shoes.

37:36

Shoes. I forgot about shoes.

37:38

You know, if I could get away with having one,

37:40

but I always want to have a pair of boots

37:43

or I always want to have, you know, that's what kills

37:45

me every time. I want to have a gym shoe. I want to have a guy.

37:47

And actually a great trip is that

37:51

Tom Bin backpack and the Adam

37:53

Savage bag.

37:54

Oh, that's nice. Right. Cause you

37:56

can kind of. Just those two. Cause then you're

37:58

really like, again, you can. You can put the

38:01

Adam Savage bag around your body, cross body,

38:04

and you are hands-free. Well, now tell me, I'll tell you

38:06

this. Adam Pally taught me a trick.

38:08

I was going away for a while.

38:10

And that's when you really have to

38:12

pack a lot of stuff. And

38:15

Pally told me that what he does

38:17

is he takes a duffel and just

38:19

puts all shoes

38:21

in a duffel

38:22

and checks that. And

38:24

that has been great because basically the duffel's

38:27

small. It won't be a super heavy

38:29

thing. You may have to pay for an extra bag or whatever, but

38:31

putting all shoes in a duffel was a life changer

38:33

for me because then I actually have all my bag space.

38:36

Yeah. Oh, I think that's very smart. Yeah, it

38:38

was a smart little side move. Yeah, that's a great

38:40

idea. All right, this is good. We really gave this person.

38:42

I mean, look. Oh, man, travel chat

38:44

with Paul and Jason? I mean, look, people have

38:46

been asking for it. And I know

38:49

that you've done, people need to listen

38:51

to you

38:52

on Cool Up and Su

38:54

Chien show. Add to cart. Add to cart.

38:57

Because you really go on a deep dive.

39:00

We did a whole episode where I just talked about

39:02

packing cubes and pouches and travel

39:05

stuff just like this. The podcast is

39:07

called Add to Cart. It's

39:09

Cool Up show who's been on this show many times. And I'm gonna

39:12

do their live show

39:12

in May where

39:15

we're gonna talk about another

39:18

round of travel stuff. Well, I'm excited

39:20

about that and kind of get a little sneak

39:22

peek of that. Can you talk to me a little

39:24

bit about

39:26

what you use for liquids? Because

39:28

I have yet to find a good, like

39:31

if I'm putting like a moisturizer. What do I put liquids

39:33

in? Or what do I put those things in? Like

39:35

the liquid itself, like the little tubes. Well,

39:39

give me a let's go both ways. Like,

39:41

yeah, like what are, so what do you, yeah,

39:43

what tube, do you know what tube brand you use?

39:46

I mean, I use two different tube brands.

39:49

Are they just called GoTubes? They're just those tubes

39:52

that everybody, that you see. Mine are always

39:54

leaking. That's what I always have. Okay,

39:57

so I was just about to say, but I started to have

39:59

failure.

39:59

on the human gear one. Yeah. Okay.

40:02

The human gear, that company, human gear. Oh,

40:04

leave this open actually for a second. So the

40:07

human gear, I like those, I

40:09

like those, but they do, they started to fail on

40:11

me. Right. So I bought a set of the

40:13

Nalgene ones. Okay. I also bought

40:15

these matador flat pack that

40:18

are on this window. Those are great

40:21

because they are very thin and

40:23

when empty, they're, they disappear. They're

40:25

insignificant, which is great, but

40:27

they're a little bit of a headache to fill or

40:29

to refill and clean and all that stuff.

40:32

Yeah. So that bothers me a little bit about

40:34

those. So right now I'm, it's a mixture

40:36

of the Nalgene, which are bulletproof.

40:38

Those are great. Okay. And the human

40:41

gear ones. And then I put, it

40:43

depends on how long I'm traveling for. Yeah.

40:45

I have a number of different kinds

40:48

of DOP kits. Yeah. I got

40:50

a few. The one that I primarily use

40:52

is the Peak Design one. It opens

40:54

like a, like a, I believe

40:57

that this is the one. Yeah. That's flat. Yeah.

40:59

That's my guy. Yeah. Yeah. The big one. There's

41:01

two now. There's a big one and a small one.

41:03

I have the big one. I use that a lot. There's

41:05

a couple of other ones. The Bellroy makes one that I've

41:08

used. Topo has a, like

41:10

just a dump pouch

41:12

that I've just dumped stuff in sometimes, but

41:14

mostly I would say 99% of the time I use

41:17

this, I use this Peak Design.

41:19

I like this Peak Design as somebody who's gone through

41:21

a lot of DOP kits, the Peak

41:23

Design has been the one that I have stayed with the

41:25

longest. And I, and I have no,

41:28

and I have no desire to switch it up. I like

41:30

all the organ internal organization.

41:32

Yes. I don't like, especially

41:34

for a DOP kit, I don't like just a big

41:37

bucket that you throw everything into.

41:39

I like having little

41:41

places that I can put my toothbrush and toothpaste

41:44

in. It's not mixed with everything else.

41:47

Like little places that I can put all my little

41:49

things so I know exactly where to go.

41:51

Can I tell you, maybe you told me about

41:53

this or maybe I found it myself. What

41:56

I now have in my DOP kit, what

41:58

I really like, you know,

41:59

because I have a small

42:02

clothing line, like a clothes

42:04

line. To dry your clothes,

42:07

yeah. Yes, and because that has been

42:09

a trick on the road or something

42:11

like that, like if you are, especially like

42:13

when I go away with the family, if I have

42:15

a like a bathing suit I need to dry

42:17

or something like that, like to have one of those lines.

42:20

Yeah, that has really been, and it's

42:22

a nice little plasticy, you know,

42:24

like elastic thing, that's a no-brainer.

42:28

I like that one more. Absolutely, especially

42:30

because like

42:31

you can put it someplace where

42:33

you're gonna remember it, versus if you hang

42:35

a bunch of stuff in like the shower, I will always

42:38

forget that. Oh, a hundred percent. I have to always do an idiot

42:40

check before I leave a row. Oh

42:42

yeah, like a full twice through.

42:45

Yeah, to get through. Especially because I don't

42:47

know if you do this, I do this though. When

42:49

I get to hotels, I hide stuff.

42:53

You see, we've talked about our

42:55

ways that we get into our hotels. So

42:57

you don't trust that your stuff

42:59

will stay safe or you wanna, okay, got

43:02

it. No, I hide stuff. And then I forget

43:04

where I hit it sometimes. See, sometimes I need

43:06

to write down stuff like, you know. Like if there isn't

43:08

a safe,

43:09

if there isn't a safe and I have

43:12

passport and, you know, I'm

43:15

gonna hide it someplace so that if somebody comes

43:17

in and just grabs my backpack and takes off,

43:20

my stuff isn't

43:22

in there, you know what I mean? By the way, if you wanna

43:25

see the June special, what always happens

43:28

and makes me laugh every single time, June

43:30

will get all of her stuff in the safe

43:33

and guess what?

43:34

Safe door,

43:35

wide open. Oh. Never, never,

43:37

never blocks it. Everything is in

43:39

there. Yeah. Doors never. But

43:42

then just that last step really

43:44

gets her, huh? I

43:47

look at it all the time, I'm like, June, you wanna lock

43:49

the safe? Like, cause I, you know what? I also,

43:51

when we're talking about like passports and things like that or like

43:54

money or like a little, like things,

43:56

like small things, I hide too. I hide

43:58

and I have little methods.

43:59

and things like that that I keep them, you know. But

44:02

yeah, June will keep that safe door open.

44:04

And that reason why I don't use a safe often is

44:07

because if June goes in there, she'll

44:10

leave it open and then they will defeat the purpose

44:12

of the safe. The other thing

44:14

that oh, my gosh, I

44:16

was just thinking about, well, OK, can let me ask

44:19

you this question? This is maybe a question we've never

44:22

talked about and I've never brought up publicly. So

44:25

I'm so I know I'm I

44:27

am prepared to be shamed.

44:30

But a big debate between June and I

44:33

is that when we go away.

44:36

She. And the kids

44:39

bring a pair of pajamas

44:42

for every single night

44:45

that we are away. And I

44:47

hold on time out. Yes, different pajamas.

44:50

Yes. And I

44:52

don't I'm like, Jane, they don't need seven

44:55

pairs of pajamas. Wait, well,

44:58

I need I need you to OK. Wait a minute.

45:01

Just for clarification,

45:03

when you're at home, do

45:05

the boys wear a different set of pajamas every

45:07

night?

45:09

Yes. Oh, got it. But this

45:11

is also I'm also not

45:14

a fan of this. Got it. OK, so like

45:16

that makes a little more sense, even

45:18

though I think it's nonsensical. It makes a little

45:20

more sense in that it is keeping up

45:22

their normal routine. OK,

45:25

the only like the only reason

45:27

why there's a routine there is like because you said, no,

45:29

you never wear pajamas twice. I

45:31

like

45:32

what are you talking about? Can I ask you a follow

45:34

up question? Yeah. Are they? Oh,

45:37

wow. OK, because I mean,

45:39

this is great for me. I need I've never ever.

45:41

Does June do that? Like do you

45:43

never wear pajamas? No, I like

45:45

in the chat. Do people do

45:48

like because I wear pajamas

45:50

for like and I don't wear pajamas. I wear like

45:52

just a pair of shorts to bed, like

45:54

a pair of like, yeah, you know, lightweight

45:56

shorts. Molly, yeah,

45:59

go ahead.

45:59

She probably talks about what I did when I was a kid.

46:02

You put your jammies behind your pillow and then when you're done,

46:04

you wear it the next day or some version of it. Okay, so I would never

46:06

put my jammies behind my pillow. I know that would probably,

46:08

when I was growing up, like my grandma used to do

46:11

that and I was like, you know, and like, and, but

46:13

yes, I have, I

46:14

have my, I have like a whole line of my

46:17

own pajamas that are, you know, Bido

46:19

that are sometimes they're short, sometimes

46:21

they're like a pant. You

46:24

know, I have some comfy shirts that I like, but I-

46:27

Can I ask you a question? Yeah, sure. When

46:29

you are traveling, now, obviously when you're like touring

46:32

or on the road, this isn't applicable,

46:34

but how often on the road when you're

46:37

at staying at a hotel or whatever, are you doing

46:39

laundry at the hotel? Well,

46:41

I mean, I am a laundry fiend. I give

46:44

you that, like,

46:44

if- Cause I was gonna

46:47

say, because I am too, and that has

46:49

been one of the ways that I've reduced

46:52

how much I bring. Oh yes, but I never know. Because I'm

46:54

like, oh, I'm just gonna send laundry

46:56

in the middle of this trip. And then

46:58

I can pack half as much. You see, that's really

47:00

smart. I'm never quite sure when I'll be able to

47:03

do it. And then I'll get on a high horse

47:05

about, oh, I've got

47:07

to pay $4 for a fucking pair of socks. Like

47:09

I'm like, then I get angry. Oh yeah. You

47:12

know, the thing that I learned from

47:14

a friend

47:14

of ours and a friend of the pod, I won't name him because

47:17

I don't know if he wants me to say this. It's

47:19

not even that scandalous, but like

47:22

I used to itemize all those things.

47:25

And he was like,

47:27

why are you doing that? I'm

47:28

like, what do you mean? He's like, you got itemized. He's like, no,

47:30

throw all that shit in the bag. They do that for you.

47:32

And since then- Wait,

47:34

what? Like you just put all that shit,

47:36

like whatever you want in the bag and

47:39

they itemize it for you. And then they give it back to you. And I've

47:41

never itemized since then. And

47:43

it all comes back and it's perfectly done. And I'm

47:45

like, oh yeah.

47:47

Okay, so that's interesting. I

47:49

mean, I do it and it always stresses

47:52

me out. Cause I'm like, oh no, I put all

47:54

the check marks in the wrong column. A hundred

47:57

percent. And oh no. And then I'm trying

47:59

to tally.

47:59

Well, that I was, I was expressing this.

48:02

I was expressing this, I was expressing this frustration

48:05

why I didn't do laundry in hotels. And he's like, what do you mean?

48:08

Oh, that's funny. He's like, just

48:10

put all the shit in the bag. All right, I'm gonna, I'll try it. I'll

48:12

try it. They're not washing your stuff. They're

48:15

not washing your stuff with anybody else's. So when

48:17

they're, you know, I agree. Yeah. So there,

48:20

you know, but anyway, so we got that. The

48:22

pajamas every night, like that to me. That's crazy.

48:25

Crazy. That feels like an enormous

48:27

amount of space being taken up with. That's what I'm

48:29

saying.

48:29

An unnecessary amount of pajamas.

48:32

Well, that, like. If you're going away for a week. That's 14

48:34

pairs of. I feel like, yeah. You

48:37

only need one pair of pajamas for a week. And

48:39

you wash them midweek. Yeah. And so like,

48:41

I'm talking about this. So you go like, okay, so

48:43

kids are wearing, so I

48:45

have two kids. Each have seven

48:47

sets of pajamas. So that's 14. This is crazy.

48:50

This is a t-shirt. Well, I mean. Can

48:52

we make a t-shirt that just has seven sets of pajamas? I

48:54

mean, this, and this is the battles that I get into

48:56

with Jim, because Jim and I were raised in different ways.

48:59

And there's a certain part of me that I will

49:02

refuse to fight these battles anymore. Oh,

49:04

sure. But when she looks at me

49:06

and says, no, no one ever wears their

49:09

pajamas more than once. Wow. I

49:11

was like, that's like Toby McGuire

49:13

doesn't wear an underwear more than once

49:15

kind of like lifestyle that I can't. Wait, what

49:18

is that? Oh, this is a whole thing. This

49:20

is, and I think publicly known. Wait

49:22

a minute. That, I love this. Toby

49:24

McGuire never wears the same

49:27

pair of underwear twice. He

49:30

treats underwear as if they're disposable. Yes. He's

49:33

like, it's too gross.

49:34

And then apparently that is something that a

49:36

lot of people share. And they're like,

49:39

oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't wear my underwear twice. And

49:41

then I was, I offered up to

49:44

the, to actually offer it up here to last looks.

49:48

It's like, can someone do the math on this? Can we figure out how much

49:50

a year are we spending in underwear?

49:53

And if you buy it in bulk, is it a better thing? I don't

49:55

know. You got to figure that Toby McGuire is not

49:58

like, or maybe he is.

49:59

I was going to say you've got to assume he's

50:02

buying nice underwear. He's not

50:04

just buying like, you know, fruit

50:06

of the loom cotton briefs in a 12 pack. Or is

50:08

he? See, that's my thought. Yeah,

50:10

maybe. Because it's the one

50:12

where

50:14

it's one and done.

50:15

You know, so in that way, yeah, I'm on with my

50:17

off. It might that might be the best

50:20

way to wear fruit of the loom. The last ticity is great. I

50:22

wonder what that that's an interesting.

50:25

Huh?

50:26

I'm so suggestible. I feel like

50:28

in two years I'm going to be like, remember when you told me that Toby

50:31

McGuire thing? I'm doing it. Yeah,

50:34

I feel like I found the right thing. It

50:36

could be so easy. Right. Yeah. It

50:39

could be so easy for me to tip into that

50:41

where I'm like, oh yeah, no, I order 500 pairs

50:44

of underwear from like Tommy John

50:46

at a time. Oh, here. So 72

50:49

pairs of this is from Shane

50:51

Lutke saying 72 pairs for $144 or $730 per year.

50:56

Based on cheap underwear. OK,

50:59

so that I mean, we don't know what brand that is. Let's

51:01

say that Toby McGuire is probably

51:04

spending if he's if he's getting

51:06

nicer than that underwear,

51:08

he's probably spending upwards

51:11

of two grand a year in underwear, which which is him in

51:13

a drop in the box. Yeah, for for for Spider-Man

51:15

is a nothing. And those are Gilder

51:17

Gildan boxer briefs. And I'll say that Gildan makes

51:19

good. When McGuire is concerned,

51:22

you know, when it comes to underwear, he plays by cider

51:26

house rules.

51:26

Oh, here you can buy it. You can actually

51:29

buy it in. I

51:31

like a Gildan. I'm so sorry, Paul. But

51:34

the chat window for this underwear site

51:36

would like to know if you need any help. Hey,

51:39

I'm looking I give more than 72 pieces underwear.

51:42

What a what a what a creep. We're

51:44

going to creep this chat, this A.I. Chat.

51:46

Hello. As we're looking at underwear. Hey, would you

51:48

like to talk about our products? By

51:51

the way, two dollars a pair. I would I

51:54

wouldn't see. I feel like that would make

51:56

two dollars a pair. I'm like, oh, that's going to

51:58

give me a rash. Right. I

52:00

mean, look, I again, allegedly,

52:02

allegedly, Gildan, I'm going to give them

52:04

the benefit of the doubt, but I'm going to also say if you wear

52:06

it once, but here's the other thing.

52:08

Would you wear underwear right out of the package? Never.

52:11

Never. Oh, no. I would. But here's

52:13

the thing. I don't wear anything

52:16

out of the package. I wash everything

52:18

that arrives.

52:19

If I get a jeans. No,

52:22

no, no. Never jeans. Never. I'm sorry. That's a good

52:24

point. No, no. I mean, like, what are

52:26

you doing with jeans? Are you doing anything with jeans? Are you

52:28

putting them in the freezer? Okay. Oh, no, I'll

52:30

put them in the freezer. I'll put them in the freezer or I'll spot

52:33

wash them if I spill something

52:35

or, you know what I mean? Something like that. Sometimes

52:38

I will do like I'll soak them in

52:40

the tub. Okay.

52:41

And then hang them dry. But

52:44

no, I never wash them. And truthfully,

52:47

I don't do much,

52:48

you know? Yeah, yeah. I know. That's what I feel. And

52:50

sometimes I'm like, is that bad? And

52:52

but now I'm like, no, I think that's the way they're supposed to be.

52:54

I think that's pretty. If you, you know, as long as

52:56

you're not living like a monster and like Toby

52:59

Maguire just shitting up the jeans. I don't know.

53:01

I don't know what he's up to. I mean, look, it

53:03

seems to me like,

53:05

like June wearing different pajamas every night.

53:08

Something is built into you as a child.

53:10

Yes. Where you're like, or or you

53:13

have built into something where you're like, and

53:15

this is it. This is like my idea

53:17

of fame is blank. My idea of

53:19

I will never, like, there's something

53:22

switched. And that's where you live now, I think.

53:25

Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, I think you're right. It

53:27

is very related to how you grew up because

53:29

when I grew up, pajamas were not even really

53:31

a thing after after I was

53:33

a little kid. Yeah. I didn't have

53:35

pajamas into my adolescence or

53:38

or young adulthood. The the

53:40

only real difference, like my pajamas have always

53:43

been a pair of

53:45

like gym shorts and a t-shirt. That's

53:48

that's that's what I mean. Yeah.

53:49

Now, where I've expanded is

53:53

when it gets in the colder months, I have like a pair of like

53:55

longer, like a like

53:57

a comfy pants like a like a loungey pant.

53:59

that I might wear. And

54:02

often that's really a basis of

54:04

just like running around with the kids and sometimes I'm like, oh, I

54:06

don't want to just be in my short shorts, you know, not short

54:08

shorts. No, no, for that I get. Yeah, absolutely. But

54:10

that's all it is. And it's not matching t-shirts. And

54:13

sometimes you'll find these really comfy shirts and I got

54:15

a nice collection of like comfy shirts. Every once in a while,

54:17

like I will see a pair

54:19

of like pajamas, like proper

54:22

pajamas that look great. Or somebody

54:25

once gifted me a pair of pajamas that

54:27

were really, you know, very nice

54:29

fancy pajamas. I

54:32

cannot sleep in pajamas.

54:35

I wake myself up because I'm like all

54:37

twisted and turned in the pajamas.

54:39

Like I feel trapped in them, you know?

54:42

I like the idea of it. Somebody has

54:44

really told me that these pajamas made by Lake,

54:46

Lake pajamas are supposed to be fantastic.

54:48

June has a pair of Lake pajamas. I read

54:50

an article about Lake pajamas. But I think

54:52

for men, I

54:54

feel the same way. When I'm putting on

54:56

like a button, when I'm buttoning it down and it looked

54:59

like I'm in a Dickens Christmas carol or something like

55:01

that, I don't like a button down

55:03

shirt. I wanna wear- Oh, you know what I could get on

55:05

board for though?

55:07

A giant long sleep

55:09

shirt. Oh, ooh, I could

55:11

do that. I feel like I could do a sleep

55:13

shirt that's like goes to my knees. I

55:16

like that's kinda like that old school, like I feel

55:18

like girls used to wear that, like or that was like the way

55:21

that I say yeah. Like the way you just

55:23

described Dickens. I'm picturing

55:25

like a Scrooge level. Does anyone have

55:27

sleep shirts? Let's get some, I thought you were gonna wear a sleep hat.

55:29

And I was like, like maybe- Oh, wow, that would be interesting.

55:32

No, a sleep shirt would be very interesting to

55:34

me because I feel like I'd probably still get

55:36

twisted and turned in it. One of the,

55:38

I did this, I produced a show

55:41

with a lonely island called Party Over Here. And

55:43

it was- So funny. It was so fun and we had

55:45

a great time. And

55:46

Nick Weiger

55:47

and Jessica McKenna wrote this sketch or

55:50

I don't wanna mis-name it. Nick Weiger

55:52

from the Doughboys. Jess McKenna from

55:55

On Off Book Rather. Off Book, so funny. Or

55:57

maybe Heather Campbell wrote. I don't know, Heather Campbell, great from.

55:59

But yeah, how did this get played? Anyway,

56:02

great people wrote this. Murders row

56:04

on that show. Yeah, just hilarious people.

56:07

And we were told when we made the show that we couldn't have

56:09

any sketch over 30 seconds or no, over 60

56:11

seconds, which really dinged

56:13

us because we had to cut

56:16

all of our sketches down. Yeah, so we had to

56:18

do two best of episodes in our first season

56:20

because we didn't have enough material

56:22

because of all that. But we still managed to

56:24

get some really funny stuff through. And I

56:26

still think in the 60 seconds, it would have been

56:29

great if we just had a little bit more air. But there

56:31

was one sketch that

56:32

Jessica did that I loved.

56:35

The premise was she worked at

56:37

Vice. And she's like, what's up, everybody? I'm

56:40

from Vice. And this is the newest shirt. And

56:42

the shirt was so big. And she was showing

56:45

how big the shirt was. And so she goes into

56:47

it. And she could never get out of it because

56:49

the shirt was literally the size

56:52

of the stage that we performed on. So

56:54

she was constantly crawling through

56:56

the shirt trying to find the head hole. And

56:59

the visual of that still makes me laugh.

57:01

It's so funny. And the benefit of that is

57:03

you can never see it because Fox

57:05

eliminates it from every

57:08

ever anything. What a mess. What

57:11

a mess. It's so stupid. Why? Why

57:13

are we taking it down? Anyway, Jason,

57:16

we answered a question. I think we should do this again.

57:18

We got great phone calls. Keep on calling us. And

57:21

we'll wrap this one up. And we'll see you next time. Absolutely.

57:24

All right, thank you, Jason, in place

57:26

of Paul's helpline. Jason and I will continue to answer

57:28

listener calls from time to time on Just Chat.

57:31

So if you want advice from Jason and I, then give us a call at

57:33

619-Paul-Ask. And to all

57:36

of you singer-songwriters out there, send

57:38

us those songs. How'd this get made at earwolf.com.

57:41

Now that we got view from the top out of the way, let's talk about

57:43

next week's movie. We are going from Mike Myers

57:46

to Bike Tires. Yeah, you heard

57:48

me. That's right, we are watching the 2004 motorcycle

57:51

action movie, Torque, starring Martin

57:53

Henderson, Ice Cube, Jamie Presley. And

57:55

how did this get made? All-star Adam Scott. Here

57:58

is a short breakdown of the plot. A

58:00

biker returns from Thailand to set

58:02

things straight with his girlfriend, but he's framed

58:04

by a rival biker gang for the

58:06

murder of another gang member's brother. Boom.

58:09

Complicated? Yes. Get

58:12

it? You have to, unless you've been hit in the head

58:14

multiple times with a steel pipe. Or choked out by

58:16

a motorcycle chain, which actually happens in this

58:18

movie. Rotten Tomatoes gives Torque

58:21

a 22% on the Tomatometer, and

58:23

Sheila Johnston from the London evening standard

58:26

says, shot like a feature length commercial,

58:28

Torque is as bright and

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shiny and inconsequential as

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a chrome hubcap. Ooh.

58:35

Nasty Sheila. Listen to the trailer. A

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world of speed. A game of risk. Fuck

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a smash right now. A

58:43

man of action. You ain't gonna

58:45

like how this ends. On January 16th,

58:48

the only way

58:50

to survive. I'm going to see

58:52

it by midnight. This

58:55

just keeps getting better and better. He's to break

58:58

every rule.

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Torque. You guys went the wrong way.

59:03

Looks like

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you did. Rated PT 13. You can rent Torque

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on Apple TV, Prime Video, YouTube, or

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Google Play. I encourage you to check out Hoopa

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videos. We will see you next week for Torque.

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But before we go, I thought I'd share with you a

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bonus deleted scene from our

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View from the Top episode. It also...

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It just seemed like Cleveland and Nevada, no

1:00:02

offense to Cleveland, but are so

1:00:04

similar to me. Like those, both of those periods

1:00:08

of her journey felt similar,

1:00:10

felt the same, stakes wise.

1:00:13

You know? Right, right. And I was like, I'm not

1:00:15

sure why we're still playing.

1:00:18

I don't understand why we're here. Well, we're

1:00:20

here for the intrigue. We're here for the, like,

1:00:23

this is what I was talking about with Stanley Kubrick. We're here

1:00:25

to see what does it take to become

1:00:27

a steward. Where's the militia in this movie? Well,

1:00:29

this is, they are the air militia. They're protecting

1:00:32

us. They are, they are the only

1:00:34

people keeping us in the sky from

1:00:37

our own device. We would go crazy, open

1:00:39

up doors. They're up there protecting

1:00:41

our skies. The flight attendants and pilots

1:00:43

are a loosely militarized

1:00:46

private militia. It's what,

1:00:48

you know what? Look on the dark web, you'll see it. People

1:00:50

don't want to admit it. It's right in front of our faces,

1:00:52

people.

1:00:53

I do believe Paul, like if you were-

1:00:55

No, I think Paul's right, actually. Like,

1:00:58

I thought the steward sometimes up in the sky. Like,

1:01:00

if shit were to go down,

1:01:02

if shit were to go down up there.

1:01:04

Yeah. Yeah, we would all get an

1:01:07

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