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the twelfth day of Christmas my true

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love gave to me a tech company

1:37

with lost doggies and a pet shrink.

1:39

We saw the 12 pups of Christmas! So

1:41

you know what that means! Sort

2:33

of dark.

2:49

We're alive as a Masonic and

2:51

we are so happy to be here today

2:54

to talk about the 2019 film, The

2:58

Twelve Pups of Christmas. We're

3:03

gonna go through this classic

3:06

San Francisco film. A

3:09

film that feels like Sleepless in

3:11

Seattle meets Marley and

3:13

Me and a

3:16

whole bunch of other shit. A pet

3:19

psychiatrist from New York finds out her

3:22

boyfriend, fiancé, it's a little unclear because

3:24

he doesn't even think to know that

3:26

they're getting married. It's

3:28

cheating on her. So she

3:30

moves across country to work for a tech

3:32

company here in San Francisco where they're

3:37

putting GPS locators on

3:39

dogs. So no

3:41

dog will ever go lost again. And

3:44

guess what? True love. That's

3:46

what happens. All right. So

3:48

to help us break down this movie,

3:50

please welcome my callers, Mr. Jason Mandzukas.

4:04

What the fuck? How

4:10

we doing San Francisco? Can't

4:13

do enough talking about Jason.

4:16

Oh, 12 pups

4:18

a Christmas. It's

4:21

a comfortable chair. It's a real relaxed vibe. Oh,

4:24

I'm going to chill so hard. I drove

4:27

here. Wow.

4:31

Ladies and gentlemen, let me

4:33

introduce somebody who is part of

4:35

the reason why we're doing this movie tonight. A

4:38

person who's going to have a lot to say, my other

4:41

co-host, June Diane Ropio. Positively

4:53

bounding, bounding

4:55

onto the stage. Wow.

4:59

Welcome June. How are you Paul? I'm

5:01

doing well. June, I just

5:04

want to take a moment here because very

5:06

rarely do you and I find a film.

5:08

Normally, Avril Halle finds all of our films,

5:10

but last Thanksgiving, you and I

5:13

were watching TV. There

5:15

was no cable to be found and we stumbled

5:17

upon this and we looked at each other and

5:19

said, this is the movie. This

5:21

is it. This is it. And this is

5:23

us. And

5:26

I have to say, I'm so

5:29

happy with this pic because it really,

5:31

this movie is a dream.

5:34

This is the best movie we've

5:37

ever seen. This

5:40

is a Christmas classic. Oh,

5:43

I agree. It's a Christmas

5:45

classic. Here's, I

5:48

did that thing where I

5:50

wrote so many notes on the

5:52

movie that I started to be

5:54

like, oh no, I'll never get

5:56

to talk about all of this. I've written

5:58

too much. too much gold in the

6:01

middle of these notes. I got, and then I was

6:03

like, I'm gonna have to curate these notes to my,

6:05

and I was like, what am I talking about? This

6:07

is 12 puffs of Christmas. Jason,

6:10

did you hear what we just said?

6:12

We've seen this movie twice. One

6:15

when it was not a sign. No,

6:17

one was elective. And

6:20

I gotta tell you, rewatching this

6:22

movie, it was love

6:24

from first credit because the credits

6:27

are like that Calypso font, that font

6:29

that you never use in Microsoft Word

6:31

because it's too confusing. It's like, oh,

6:33

let's make it fun. It's like, eh,

6:35

it's a little too much. Yeah,

6:37

it's almost like it's a font for dogs.

6:41

By the way, no one steal that. That's my

6:44

next movie, Font for Dogs, about

6:46

a typographer who only is friends with a

6:48

dog and then he falls in love. I

6:50

would believe it if you told me this

6:53

movie was intended for a dog audience. That

6:56

would make sense to me. This movie is

6:58

intended for an adult sexy

7:00

audience. This movie plays like a sexual

7:02

thriller from the 80s. Like

7:05

when we first meet Aaron. It does?

7:07

Oh my God, Aaron pops on screen.

7:09

Fatal attraction. I won. Gagged

7:12

edge. Yes. 12 puffs

7:14

of Christmas. I mean, don't

7:16

you think that first therapy scene with

7:18

Aaron, I'm like, you're playing this a

7:21

little too sexy for me. It's like,

7:23

it's too steamy as everybody sees. Here's

7:25

what I don't understand. The

7:28

movie? Well, I wanna start off. That's

7:30

what I don't understand. I wanna start

7:32

off with her profession, canine therapist. Because

7:35

when I think of anyone who's like dealing

7:38

with animals and dealing with behavior issues and

7:40

dealing with their owners, you know, they're in

7:42

jeans. They've got a fanny pack on with

7:45

treats in them. Okay. They're

7:47

on the ground, to be quite honest. That's what

7:49

I wanna ask. They

7:52

are putting the canine therapist in the position

7:55

of, or in the environment of... human

8:00

therapy. And my understanding is the canine

8:03

therapist would be working with the owner

8:05

and the dog in the world. Am

8:07

I wrong? Is there a canine

8:10

therapist? Because San Francisco is absolutely

8:12

rotten with them. Is

8:15

there a canine therapist in the house? Just so

8:17

we can ask someone to go to. I

8:23

believe that canine

8:26

therapists are called trainers. Like

8:29

they're dog trainers. Like the way

8:31

that these people are coming in, it's like,

8:33

oh my dog hates Christmas music. First of

8:36

all, these dogs have more issues with Christmas

8:38

than anyone. And it seems like Erin also

8:40

is like, oh, I hate Christmas. But yet

8:42

later on, she's... I actually do know and

8:45

I wish I thought to have her on

8:47

or to have her call in. But

8:49

I do know a

8:51

dog life coach. Her name is Sasia

8:54

Freeman. She has a podcast. A

8:57

dog life coach? She's amazing. And she

8:59

is amazing. She has worked with us. We are patients,

9:02

customer, clients. I would understand therapists. I

9:05

would understand so many things. But a

9:07

dog life coach to help the dog

9:09

realize its dreams. And its owners. And

9:12

its goals. To really like to

9:14

really kind

9:16

of curate our joint vision. Okay.

9:18

What does a dog want? What do we want? I

9:20

guess this is what's different

9:26

than a dog trainer. Dog trainers are usually

9:28

working on behavior with the dogs. And a

9:31

dog life coach, again, the only one I know

9:33

is Katya Friedman. And she's absolutely incredible. Hosts a

9:35

podcast called The Animal That Changed You. Anyway,

9:37

put that over there for now. But she

9:39

is amazing. And she does work with

9:42

both human and dog.

9:46

Does she work like this? Like in this

9:48

scene right here? Is this character the one

9:50

that's Carly's friend? Oh,

9:53

is it? Yes. This is like

9:55

a Maria Bamford character.

9:57

This to me is a Maria Bamford

9:59

character. character. I mean watch

10:01

it watch it through that lens.

10:05

You can't leave us, Aaron. It's funny because

10:07

of you that my boys don't eat the

10:09

tea. Can you pause it when it gets

10:11

to the font? If I don't see you

10:13

once a week, I may

10:15

not have my couch. I mean I

10:18

also feel like that's the font from friends

10:22

or from like suddenly Susan. It feels

10:24

like a font that might be in

10:26

a dog food commercials like tasty biscuits.

10:29

It's like there's but here so she

10:31

is very upset that the therapist is

10:33

leaving. Come on. Jade,

10:36

I'm so sorry. I

10:39

got a job offer that I can't come down.

10:41

I'm so nervous. I made this decision

10:43

that a move would be really good

10:46

for a relationship. In fact,

10:49

I'm getting married on Monday at Sunny Hall.

10:52

Why would you tell a patient this?

10:55

Here's my first headline about this

10:57

movie. Aaron is

10:59

a terrible therapist. Aaron

11:02

is only interested in herself.

11:05

And I think like every

11:07

other person in this movie is

11:10

a psycho. Yeah. And

11:12

every character in this movie is

11:14

a straight up psycho. What

11:17

I really thought was and this is my big

11:19

theory on it and this is what I was

11:21

trying to get to the bottom of. I was

11:23

like, is she an improviser? Because it felt like

11:25

she went off book a lot. I agree. So

11:27

here's what I'm going to say about that. And

11:31

I guess we'll get to the

11:33

love interest in a bit. The boyfriend

11:36

or the love interest? The love

11:38

interest. I don't remember his name.

11:40

Martin. Martin,

11:42

what a crazy name for a love

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15:09

to be off the charts. Electric. Electric.

15:15

They were, I agree. By

15:18

the way, Carly, just the

15:20

absolute MVP of this movie.

15:22

But when they're together, they've

15:24

got, I feel like they're

15:26

like dancing around the crib.

15:28

When they get together, Aaron

15:30

comes alive. She's alive

15:32

with Carly. They're dancing, they're laughing, they're

15:35

having emotions. Carly's digging. She's that guy.

15:38

When she's with Martin, she's basically like... It's

15:41

this. You're a piece of shit. You're a piece

15:43

of shit. You're a piece of shit. Kiss. You're

15:46

a piece of shit. You're a piece of shit. Fuck.

15:49

You're a piece of shit. End of movie. She's

15:52

so miserable and she's

15:54

so over it, but I also feel like

15:57

the movie makes no sense. I

16:00

was like, does your fiance know

16:02

that you are getting married? Like,

16:04

because she's like, we're getting married

16:07

on Monday. And

16:09

it seems like,

16:12

it all seems like, oh right, right. It's like

16:14

a dinner plan. Like, oh, we're going to Susan's

16:16

on Saturday. Oh, right. Yes. And

16:19

then she has to say to him at one

16:21

point, and people get married because they love

16:23

each other. She, I

16:25

want to just reiterate. She's

16:28

a mental health professional and

16:31

is picking up on no size.

16:33

Taylor is there early. What?

16:37

Why is Taylor there so early? Wait

16:39

a second. I want to, okay. I want

16:41

to pull that back a little bit. Let's get into Taylor. Erin, get on

16:43

the ball. Oh, I want to

16:46

do. Oh, Erin appears to be seeing

16:48

clients on Thanksgiving. Well, that was my

16:50

issue. She saw three

16:52

clients on Thanksgiving morning and then

16:54

her instructions to her

16:56

fiance were reheat up the

16:59

turkey, heat up the turkey, not

17:01

cook the turkey, like heat it

17:03

up. And then she's butt hurt.

17:06

She's so butt hurt when Travis and

17:08

Erin have done it. She's like, she's

17:10

so passive aggressive. She's like, the

17:12

cooking is the best part. And

17:15

like, they did it. In my opinion, I'm like,

17:17

oh, they did a nice thing. They were like,

17:19

you were working on Thanksgiving. Yeah. So they did

17:22

this. When were you going to eat? And also

17:24

it seemed like the instruction she gave was heat

17:26

up the turkey, warm it up. They

17:28

did warm up the fucking turkey. They

17:32

did it. I mean, I'm team Travis

17:34

and Taylor. And

17:37

then to add confusion, this is all just

17:39

the first two scenes and we won't leave

17:41

New York. We'll come back to talk

17:43

about the San Francisco parts. We're just going

17:45

to focus on New York tonight. That's all we care

17:47

about San Francisco. Your goddamn town. But

17:50

then she gets in the

17:53

cab and you know,

17:55

and she's like, oh, can you change

17:57

this station this Christmas music? And

17:59

the guy she. Shouts back, the cab driver, New

18:01

York cabby, they're pre-programmed.

18:05

What? What?

18:07

There's so many, by the way. They're not on

18:09

a fucking Disney ride. The

18:12

drivers in this movie, you never

18:14

see. You never

18:16

see, there's driver erasure happening.

18:20

And they just pipe in some VO. When

18:24

Martin and her are going around to try to

18:26

unload some of the pups, there's

18:29

that driver driving the SUV, never get to

18:31

see him. It's just like. You get to

18:33

see more of the car pulling into a

18:35

driveway than you ever see of a driver

18:37

driving that car. Yes. There's

18:40

a lot of, they're like, oh. I have to say too,

18:42

I'm gonna say something that's maybe controversial. I

18:45

don't think Aaron likes dogs.

18:49

Yeah. June.

18:54

June. I don't. Yes, I

18:57

agree. I'm gonna

18:59

piggyback off of that. I don't think

19:01

Aaron likes people. Yeah. I

19:06

think Aaron is bad at her

19:08

job, and is a

19:11

bad person. Well, what's

19:14

really interesting is if her job

19:16

is to kind of intuit what

19:18

the dogs feel and want,

19:20

like she's certainly missing the cues

19:22

that Galileo's giving her. Mr. G?

19:26

Her dog is telling her shit is.

19:29

Oh, oh, what? Goliath,

19:32

not Galileo, I'm sorry. Goliath,

19:35

not. June. Sorry. How

19:37

should I hear you? San Francisco

19:39

has turned against you. Goliath!

19:43

Goliath! I

19:46

feel like there is one moment in this

19:48

movie where I really feel like we understand

19:51

who Aaron is, and I'll talk

19:53

about this in a second. I hear you.

19:55

We're gonna have to get revenge on him. I

19:59

think we should. We're gonna rewind and we're

20:01

gonna rewind and start it again But

20:07

I want you to watch how

20:09

much you can't really tell

20:11

what Erin is saying because the

20:14

words aren't actually Coming into the

20:16

air now. They

20:18

go you know her mouth they Apparate.

20:21

Yeah, this is the movie that needs

20:23

closed captioning. Maybe the most Now

20:26

and then there's Taylor who's like I'm talking I

20:30

was just thrilled though to be able to

20:32

hear her. Thank God for Taylor and Travis

20:35

and The

20:38

sound man on this movie or sound woman on

20:40

this movie who had to be like modulating between

20:42

both of them He must have been going nuts

20:46

But quickly I just want to just for one moment Just

20:50

show you what I think is

20:53

really going on inside Erin's head. So here we go. One

20:55

second We're

21:01

gonna have to get revenge on him I

21:05

think we should oh I

21:20

think that she did want to do I yes, I

21:23

wrote that down That's like

21:25

said to that's a moment. That's the

21:27

real person. That's her. That's her That's

21:29

her she wants to get revenge tying

21:32

him up and tattoo him on the

21:34

forehead So he lives a life of

21:36

torture it is Everyone

21:41

is a fucking psycho except

21:43

for Carly who is an

21:45

angel Carly's

21:49

a psycho Jason. Okay. Okay, probably

21:51

the psycho. I love Carly.

21:54

I'm even a cult this whole movie

22:00

This town's built on cults. If

22:04

there's one thing I know, at least seven people in

22:06

this room have been in a cult. Raise

22:09

your hand if you were raised in a

22:11

cult in this town. Cowards.

22:13

Cowards. I bet

22:16

they're in the balcony. We can't

22:18

see. The scenes where she's, where

22:20

Erin's being introduced to Doggone and

22:22

the corporate culture there are

22:26

terrifying. They play

22:28

like a horror film where they tell her

22:30

over and over that she's a part of

22:32

their family. Your family now.

22:35

Your family now. They won. Your

22:37

family. You know, okay, this scene that we just watched here, right?

22:39

But Paul, will you just play a little bit of again? Sure.

22:42

Just like, just like, don't you feel, in this thing

22:44

where she's saying, plotting her revenge and you know

22:46

what we should do and blah, blah, blah, don't

22:48

you feel like, yeah, don't you feel like inside

22:51

of this scene. There are even pictures. Oh, God.

22:53

That is bad. She's going to turn

22:56

around, remove her hair and it's

22:58

going to be Gabriel from Malignant.

23:01

It's going to be on the back of her head. That's

23:04

where I feel, I feel like this movie

23:06

is in the Malignant verse. And

23:10

I mean, look, this is, I don't

23:13

know if these people are unhappy if they haven't found a

23:15

home or whatever because it seems like

23:17

everyone's kind of broken and nothing is working

23:19

for anyone. Right? Even

23:21

in San Francisco, they're not, no

23:23

one's really truly happy. Not even

23:25

Wayne. Is the name Wayne? Wally.

23:28

Not even Wally is happy. I

23:31

mean, listen, they're all working for a

23:33

startup that's bound to fail with a

23:35

founder who is an actual idiot.

23:37

Yeah. This is, there

23:40

are, there are, this is a massive

23:42

tech startup that is, what an excitement.

23:49

The privilege of this

23:51

white bro, who's this

23:53

white tech bro, whose

23:55

greatest challenge is overcoming

23:57

the loss of a dog.

24:00

he had as a child? Who

24:02

we assumed was dognapped.

24:05

He says dognapped. I

24:07

have never heard that.

24:09

He also is immediately

24:11

gifted a new dog.

24:13

The fucking gall of

24:15

this guy. But here's

24:17

my question about his

24:19

company and honestly the mission

24:22

because I guess

24:24

I have to wonder like are

24:27

they trying to build this GPS collar

24:30

before chips? No, no,

24:32

June. June, this is

24:34

2019. Air tags are

24:37

readily available and so are

24:39

those tiles. Remember tiles? Yeah.

24:41

We have an air tag

24:43

on our dog as we

24:45

speak and it's this big.

24:48

The size of a quarter, maybe two put

24:51

together. This is 2019. This is not like 2005. This

24:53

isn't a revolutionary

24:56

idea. Tile has been doing this

24:58

for years. It also feels like they

25:00

should be smarter than this because Carly

25:03

has been at nine dot coms. She

25:06

is an engineer, a tech

25:08

guru, a programmer, a

25:10

social expert and a

25:13

graphic designer. It

25:15

seems like she either got fired

25:17

or working for her brother, who's

25:20

a fucking idiot. Who

25:23

is the patriarchy?

25:26

He is an at work. This

25:28

is the patriarchy at work. But

25:32

this Carly should own this

25:34

company and it should already

25:36

be IPO'd. Give me

25:39

a fucking break. This guy's a

25:41

dunce! But also they

25:43

bring in the dog therapist

25:46

and she figures out you should rename it.

25:48

That doesn't seem like what a therapist should

25:50

be doing and she really,

25:52

what she adds to it has nothing

25:57

to do with her background about

25:59

dogs. all the work that

26:01

we've had, but she is told

26:03

upon arrival that the success of

26:06

the entire company by both Carly

26:08

and Martin, she has told the

26:10

success of the entire company and

26:12

all of its employees and apparently

26:15

all of its puppies are

26:17

in her hand. And

26:20

right before the holidays. And within

26:22

one week, she saves it.

26:24

By the way, well, yeah, she does it.

26:28

She does the whole thing at this volume. She

26:31

saves the entire company at

26:33

this volume. That she notices

26:35

though, anyone would notice. Like

26:37

if I brought my six year old there, he'd

26:39

be like, that's too big. And

26:41

that's what he says. And

26:44

it doesn't seem like he runs a fear based company, although

26:46

I do love when he's typing on a computer and you

26:48

can clearly see the screen in the frame and it's black.

26:51

Well, this is what's so weird is that you would

26:53

think that. That

26:59

she'd be saving the company because of her

27:02

connection to animals because she's able to really,

27:04

you know, draw

27:08

the lines between humans and animals. But

27:10

that's not why. She's

27:12

there to get her basic like

27:14

brand narrative and like just a

27:16

marketing lens. And she's also there

27:18

to give therapy. The

27:23

reveal of the end of the movie, which is

27:25

fucking the cuckoo. Is

27:28

that Carly hired her to give

27:30

that because she thought she'll be

27:32

perfect for my brother and

27:34

give him therapy to make him better. And you

27:36

guys will fall in love. Carly

27:39

is setting up a series of

27:41

events that are an HR disaster

27:45

from day one. Erin

27:47

is like day one. Erin is like

27:50

day one. Erin is like the boss

27:52

is fucking hot. Holy

27:55

shit. The boss is hot to

27:57

his sister. And then it's like,

27:59

uh oh. By the way, but when

28:01

she said that she's like, oh that

28:03

was your sister It's like it wasn't like your wife

28:05

But it's like would your sister be like

28:07

I don't know why it would be that embarrassing to

28:09

tell your sister that your brother's hot There's

28:12

a whole MTV show about it He

28:16

is way better looking in person Work

28:22

just horny she

28:24

also says Seems

28:27

brilliant Brilliant

28:31

how do you know being brilliant from just get in

28:33

my office in 10 minutes? I

28:35

also think Carly I Don't

28:38

I don't know what Carly wants out of this.

28:40

I'll have to imagine Here's

28:42

what I had to come up with because the movie

28:44

didn't provide me with much I

28:46

had to imagine that Carly had asked her

28:48

own father to fund her

28:51

brilliant startup idea and he said

28:53

no The dad will

28:55

come back later on giving the oddest

28:57

performance I've ever seen Like

29:00

when they cast mark Cuban in things

29:03

like hey mark Cuban fear like hey

29:05

guys I'm here because I really like

29:07

what you're doing You

29:10

know, it felt like he was some sort

29:12

of a local celebrity was brought in to

29:14

be in the film Or or I was

29:16

gonna say they were like fuck. We didn't cast this

29:18

part. Uh Gary

29:21

from craft services, he'll do it. He'll

29:23

do it. We'll put him in a suit I

29:26

just had to imagine that she asked him

29:28

for funding at some point and he said

29:30

no Okay,

29:33

I need to know this dog

29:35

on The

29:38

company the tech company that has hired

29:40

a pet therapist

29:44

For reasons unknown because it is simply

29:46

a caller based and I'm sorry Jason

29:49

Jason Jason We really can't and I know we're in

29:51

San Francisco, but I don't think we can call this

29:53

a tech company Well, my

30:00

get there, it appears to be

30:02

a dog hotel. No,

30:05

no, no. She says, welcome

30:07

to the doggone hotel. I'm just

30:09

joking. She clarifies, I'm just joking.

30:11

I thought they also had a

30:13

dog. No, no, no, no. To

30:15

be clear, there are a lot

30:17

of dogs that are staying there.

30:19

Well, but by the way, when

30:21

those 12 pups, the titular pups

30:24

are pointless. They're

30:26

not important to the plot of

30:28

the movie. You know how I know?

30:30

You know how I know?

30:33

Because midway through the movie, the movie

30:35

says, hey, Aaron, first the movie's like, Aaron,

30:37

you got to find homes for these 12

30:39

dogs or this company's going to fail and

30:41

I'm going to put them to sleep. Right? Martin

30:43

is like, Martin, Martin's like, I'm going to

30:45

murder these dogs unless you find them at

30:47

home by Christmas. And then two days later,

30:49

he's like, come with me to New York

30:51

to save the company. It doesn't matter. The dogs

30:53

don't matter. Who cares about the dog? Taylor's back.

30:56

She'll take care of the dogs. What? What

30:58

is this movie? But the crazy thing is,

31:00

the crazy moment about that is, first

31:03

of all, the reason why there are 12 pups there, which

31:05

you all know is because of a

31:07

lazy photographer left them after a photo

31:09

shoot at an ad agency. So like,

31:11

no one's got a, we call it,

31:13

we call it ad agency and just

31:16

get them to take their fucking dog.

31:18

It's like the Balenciaga campaign when people

31:20

are blaming like the art department. I'm

31:22

like, I don't know. It was so

31:24

odd. So then they have these 12

31:26

pups. It's like, all right, dog therapist,

31:28

if you're such a good dog therapist,

31:31

get rid of these dogs. Okay,

31:34

and and then he seemingly is

31:36

going to go bankrupt. But yet

31:39

he's forced to deliver every one of

31:41

these dogs. He should be working on

31:43

that computer that has a student. They're

31:45

truly trying to play a he's a

31:48

Scrooge. He doesn't like dogs. He

31:50

does. And then his heart opens,

31:52

because she forces him to deliver

31:54

puppies. The other question I have

31:56

for her is, shouldn't

31:59

these people If you're a

32:01

canine therapist, isn't the first

32:03

rule of thumb that like every owner should meet

32:05

the dogs first before they make

32:07

a lifelong commitment to them? This movie,

32:10

the movie is irresponsible. Irresponsible.

32:12

The movie is... Like

32:15

animals, honestly animals were harmed. Here's

32:19

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35:16

spoken about Erin's measured

35:19

tone, and

35:21

do you have clips of the moments

35:23

when she, Yes. When she

35:25

exhibits, Comes alive. When she exhibits

35:28

the only other emotional

35:30

pull that she seems to have.

35:32

Yeah. I mean, we should watch

35:35

the breakup just for a second because this is pretty

35:37

great, because here's the plan. Honest to God, I would

35:39

re-watch this whole movie with you people here right now.

35:41

It really is. You guys, you

35:45

guys get it. You get it, you

35:47

get it. That's why I say

35:49

it's next level. I

35:51

don't get from you, but I get

35:53

from Taylor. Taylor's

35:57

there. my

36:00

issue. Was the plan, I'm going to

36:02

break up with you and then when I break up with her,

36:04

Taylor, why don't you come in and you can explain your side

36:06

of it. And then Taylor's like, well,

36:08

do you want to do it on the way

36:10

to the courthouse or should we maybe do it

36:12

like on Thanksgiving Day? Yeah, and should we let

36:14

her get dressed in that wedding dress?

36:17

It's going to be more interesting to do it right there.

36:19

Travis is a coward. Travis

36:22

is a coward who should

36:26

have done this, I mean,

36:28

ages ago. Taylor should have said something.

36:30

I feel like though, Travis, I

36:32

feel like Taylor is there for the wedding. Like

36:34

I feel like she's, she's supposed to be there.

36:37

I don't think she's like as their witness.

36:39

She's not dressed for it. Someone's dead. And

36:41

I think that's true. She's not dressed for

36:43

it. Someone in the audience said amazing.

36:46

Okay, then, no, so she is just conveniently,

36:48

there wasn't going to be a wedding that

36:50

day. And so she storms off. And let

36:52

me just say one thing. If you've not

36:54

seen the movie, you have to know that

36:56

our main character here, Aaron, played by Charlotte

36:58

Sullivan, is carrying a dog

37:00

in her, like her arm

37:02

is always in like an L shape. The

37:04

dog is permanently in her, like

37:07

even when she's walking around her. Can I add

37:09

to what you're saying? This is

37:11

a movie that is full of multiple

37:13

scenes where people are having emotional conversations,

37:15

both of whom are holding two puppies.

37:18

It is so funny and

37:21

awkward to watch people hold

37:23

wild animals while trying to

37:25

act. All right, so here

37:27

is, here is the first

37:30

explosion of her, of her,

37:32

this is the first time we get to

37:34

see Aaron pop off. This is a person

37:36

coming undone. Okay.

37:42

Okay, you. Can you pause

37:44

for a second? That's a point

37:47

of view shot from the dog. Just

37:50

so you understand, this movie

37:52

has POV shots from the

37:54

dog's point of view. Which

37:56

would have been so cool

37:58

if they... They had done something

38:00

with it. But once or twice. So

38:03

it's odd. It's like there's no pattern.

38:05

And I thought for sure, oh, he's

38:07

this dog, Galileo. Is gonna talk. Is

38:09

going to Goliath. What's his name again?

38:12

Goliath. You know what? It's going to.

38:14

Actually, I'm with you. It's

38:17

Galileo. Galileo. Galileo. I

38:20

like. Eat shit, San Francisco. For sure.

38:22

You don't correct us. We correct you.

38:25

For sure. Galileo is gonna like jump

38:28

and chomp on his balls like and

38:30

I want to see it. I'm ready

38:32

for it. But also here. There's

38:34

also here a clear relationship between

38:37

Travis and Galileo that is fascinating.

38:40

Well, but Travis says on the way

38:42

to get married after dating

38:44

for three years. Why

38:46

does he hate me? Like today

38:48

is the day we're asking that

38:51

question. And the answer, Travis, is

38:53

he smells other pussy on you.

38:57

Great. And even

38:59

if it's Galileo gets it.

39:01

But here's what's so weird about

39:03

her. I

39:06

don't know her approach to her work. Her

39:08

answer to that is, oh, he's really protective

39:10

of me. And I don't

39:12

know everything about dogs, but I'm like, I know

39:14

a little. And that's

39:17

your fault, Erin. Like you should

39:19

be working day and night to

39:22

make sure that that dog isn't

39:24

overly protective. That's physicians. That's

39:26

your job. He'll myself. And

39:30

I will say that, look,

39:33

here's the thing. This

39:37

guy has got a secret server full

39:39

of women. He's got, he

39:42

doesn't even have an alternate email.

39:44

He's got a server. How

39:47

many women do you need to be

39:49

fucking to have a private server? I

39:51

mean, and I don't even know what

39:54

that means, really. But to me, like

39:56

when I hear a server, it's like,

39:58

that's like a corporation. So you

40:00

and I wouldn't even be on the same Wi-Fi? Is

40:02

that what it means? It would mean that we'd be

40:05

in a hot spot and I know different

40:07

computers It would mean

40:09

that Taylor is a hacker Taylor

40:12

it means like Taylor Taylor

40:15

found Hillary's emails like

40:20

For Taylor to find us is everybody

40:22

like a tech genius Sam Fran is

40:24

it normal for a person of a

40:26

private server? Also, do you guys like

40:29

being called fan Fran? I

40:32

know I know you don't know Like

40:35

being called frisco I

40:40

literally every every post

40:42

for this show I make sure Every

40:45

post for the show. I made sure I never

40:48

said San Fran at Francisco But

40:51

um, so this is the first out first. Okay. Sorry.

40:53

Yeah, this is her out first Erin

41:09

is a psycho By

41:11

the way, also this movie

41:14

Erin learned nothing

41:17

That is its journey is

41:20

not an arc. It is a flat

41:22

line And she's like

41:25

a creepy person, you know, there's something

41:27

very she has a line where she

41:29

says and I think she's joking But

41:32

who knows with her

41:34

cadence? She says It's

41:37

nice to be with people who are alive Yes,

41:40

so, you know what that was like, but

41:42

you know what that was This is

41:44

why I think she improvised a lot because I think there's

41:46

a lot of work in there because she said we're family

41:48

And she said oh most of my family are dead. So

41:51

it's good to be with family who are alive Whoa

41:55

Taylor at one point and and you

41:58

know Taylor has it coming And

42:00

I want I don't want to talk about Taylor's arc and the

42:02

penance she pays which is to I guess

42:05

Taylor learns from the 12 pups of Christmas

42:08

Well, we don't see that movie. We don't see it

42:10

But I need like a rose and cramps and gilder

42:12

and stern for Taylor We really do because I'm like

42:14

Taylor I do think that Taylor

42:16

if I had done that to

42:18

a friend I do think

42:20

Taylor is making the right moves like just showing

42:22

up and being like I fucked up I

42:25

need to make a man need to make amends and

42:27

an Aaron You

42:30

know give us her an opportunity to do

42:32

that now it is taking care of at

42:34

that point I think only ten pups if

42:36

you don't really know they kind

42:38

of mess up the math because she goes you

42:40

need to take care of 13

42:42

why go out then she gives away two pups

42:44

and she comes back and she was like I've

42:46

just been taking care of 12 pups, so one

42:48

went away, but she gave away two but there

42:50

was and I don't know parvo hit or what

42:52

but Number of

42:55

pups is in one and going and

42:57

why is Taylor carrying all of them?

42:59

You don't need to marry them around

43:01

like but she's children, but she does

43:03

say to Taylor She says

43:06

to her when they're in the house. She says

43:08

you are I

43:10

have it always been very

43:13

weak Taylor She

43:16

says it twice Positioning

43:18

and screaming of this isn't like you're such

43:21

a bitch you're so how could you do this? She's

43:23

like you're weak You're weak you're

43:25

weak you was always you've

43:27

always been weak that saying

43:29

I thought this forever It's

43:33

so chilling it was

43:35

always been Erin is a terrible

43:37

friend Erin is

43:39

ungenerous unkind No,

43:41

but Erin is awful because like even when

43:44

she's on the flight with her, you know

43:46

would be bow And he's afraid of flying.

43:48

She's like you're afraid of flying Wings

43:50

on fire and he's like what what and

43:53

he's like, I'm just joking you asshole. Fuck you

43:56

And he's like, oh and he's like you see I

43:58

got you over your fear of falling Get

44:00

out of here, Grosso. Like, it's...

44:02

You're aggressive. She gets him over his fear

44:05

of flying also by

44:07

calling him a piece of shit. Yeah, that's what I'm

44:09

saying. She's like, hey, you're a piece of shit. You

44:11

stole my ideas. You pawned them off as your own.

44:13

You're a piece of shit. And he's like, well, wait

44:15

a minute. No, I didn't. And then she's like, ha

44:17

ha, just kidding. I got

44:19

you over your fear of flying. And it's

44:21

like, she's playing games that are fucking nuts

44:23

level. But then... Like, psycho bullshit.

44:25

I was like, what? But then he basically says, like,

44:27

oh, were you kidding? And she's like, not really. Like,

44:30

it's like... Really

44:32

strange. Yikes. She

44:34

is... That's like... Like,

44:36

it feels like a movie about a serial killer.

44:39

Yeah. And then what did she say? Well, she

44:41

does come off. And I thought

44:43

for sure... Well, once

44:45

we realized she was an orphan, you know, which I

44:47

thought was coming. She had... Wait,

44:49

who? Erin. She's an orphan?

44:52

Well, I think she's... Her... Both of her parents are dead. Jason, do

44:54

you want to weigh in on this one? I don't think... She

44:57

does tell a backstory

44:59

story about how, like...

45:02

I think she's an adult orphan, like me. Yeah.

45:06

Is that what it is? Oh, okay. An

45:08

adult orphan. Okay. I think you're

45:10

right then. No, no. She wasn't like, like, all of her

45:12

quits. She wasn't an orphan child. I mean, maybe she was,

45:15

but... She was not like, can I have some more? Sorry.

45:18

Yeah, that's what I thought. She might have been like an adult... I

45:20

think she's an adult orphan. And I guess

45:22

orphan's not the right word, but she does have...

45:24

No, no, no. I do

45:26

think that there's a trope in these

45:28

movies where, you

45:31

know, adult orphans

45:33

are portrayed as really, really

45:35

sad. That's only eight pups. But

45:38

unfortunately, what I think is supposed to

45:40

come off as sort of sad and

45:43

more connected to animals than people

45:45

ends up coming off psychotic.

45:49

It's the way that she stares. And

45:52

this is... Yeah. The

45:54

unblinking, unemotional... It is.

45:56

It is. Except

45:58

when she's with Carly. Yeah. And then

46:00

it's popping. Well, at the Christmas party,

46:02

at the Christmas party, at the company

46:04

house that they all live at, why

46:08

do they all live in the same house? Is that

46:10

what you guys do here? No? I

46:13

do think... No, I feel like this person over

46:15

here was like, kind of. I

46:18

also really want to have a conversation

46:20

with a costume designer because the number

46:23

women under 60 who are wearing Christmas

46:25

pins is

46:30

utterly insane. Everyone

46:32

has a sweater and a pin

46:34

on. I mean, let's watch a little bit

46:36

of this Christmas party because it's really good.

46:38

And I will say... Does this include the

46:40

Jingle Bells sing-along? It might. You're

46:43

part of our family now. Everybody, Aaron's here.

46:45

Hi. Hello. Hi.

46:48

How are you? Is this it? This is your

46:50

new family. Don't you just family? Can

46:52

you pause for a second? Everything... everything so

46:55

far is from a horror

46:57

movie. By

47:04

the way, everybody, everybody,

47:07

Aaron's here. Hi.

47:10

This is the trailer that we need

47:12

to cut. This is your new family.

47:14

This is Mitch Somar. What? And

47:17

Somar and this are similar in

47:20

so many ways. This is more

47:22

dogs or pups. This is terrifying.

47:25

I will tell you this much too. I've seen

47:27

the house. There's no way to... The

47:30

movie? The house? The

47:32

house... Yes. You were great. You

47:35

were great. Please. But I've seen... Like, the

47:37

house isn't big enough to house the

47:39

amount of people at this party.

47:42

That means that people are sleeping cult-like in

47:45

bunk beds. Three bunk beds

47:47

to a room. Six to a room. And

47:49

in six to a room. Everybody's singing jingle bells.

47:52

They should all be like, what do we do?

47:55

What is this company? Yeah. And,

47:57

Ar, is my check gonna clear next week? seem

48:00

to be being paid in stock options and happy with it but

48:02

everyone comes to her with a problem. Now watch this. Here we

48:04

go. Can

48:07

you pause for a second? She's still

48:09

whispering all

48:15

her lines. They're at a party. It's nice to

48:17

be with people in our lives. It's nice. It's

48:19

so good. I'm so happy to be here. I'm

48:21

so happy to be here. I'm so happy to

48:23

be here. I love it. I

48:25

love being here. At one point when she's cleaning up

48:28

the dishes, Carly says,

48:31

Thank you. I'm so happy to be here. It's so great. It's

48:33

so great. It's so good. It's so

48:35

good. It's so good. It's so good. I'm so happy

48:37

to be here. I can't believe that it's

48:43

everything so good. It's really good. Everything is so good.

48:45

Everything is so good. I think it's so good. I

48:47

think it's so good. Oh my God. I think it's

48:49

so good. This is the most

48:52

amazing thing

48:54

I've ever

48:56

seen in my life. And

48:58

again, we talk about this movie, there's no continuity

49:00

because at one point when she's cleaning up glasses,

49:02

Carly goes, Now that's a sign of a good

49:05

guest. Well, no, you live

49:07

there. That's your house. You're

49:09

not a guest anymore. You live here. But here we go. This is

49:11

the end of the party scene. That's

49:14

like, that's like one of

49:17

the only peaks.

49:20

The sound department

49:22

was like, Oh, I'll

49:29

tell you the other thing. I will tell

49:31

you the other thing that I get with,

49:33

uh, just to go to Erin again and

49:35

her psychosis because I'm thinking

49:38

about it. Was it like if, at the

49:41

end of the movie, it was like a, a, a

49:43

Blumhouse reveal. All they need is a little reediting. And

49:45

June, I want to ask your opinion on this as

49:47

well. Like, so when her boyfriend

49:49

comes back, right? When her boyfriend comes back into

49:51

the picture at the end, he's

49:54

like, he basically puts his arm on

49:57

her, like on her. He's like, I want you back.

50:00

Then the guy comes in and punches her

50:02

ex and then when the cop comes in He's like

50:04

he had his hands on me and I

50:07

felt like she was trying to get him arrested And I

50:09

don't feel like he was attacking her or even

50:11

really aggressively touching her I

50:13

thought he had both hands It

50:18

was grabby for sure right

50:20

but then but Travis says

50:22

not to Paul that Travis

50:24

says She assaulted

50:26

me Right, yeah, that's

50:28

where I was like whoa Travis

50:31

what are you up to? But I just felt

50:33

like she really was like trying to I felt

50:35

like she was trying to get him jailed For

50:39

this I know we can make this I

50:46

Love this woman want to know everything

50:48

about her another Maria

50:50

fan for character Hey By

50:56

the way listen to the music under the fight

50:58

scene it's like herb your enthusiasm kind of the

51:00

horn The movie

51:02

is all public domain music or

51:05

silence Who

51:14

are you I'm her boyfriend what I

51:18

just saved her from this meeting he was helping

51:20

me Okay,

51:23

tell it to the judge but she's

51:26

not brought in as a witness So

51:30

it's just the two guys who fought but not

51:32

the third party tell her to go to jail

51:34

No for her testify. Oh, you're saying

51:36

lock her up Paul

51:40

is saying lock up lock

51:42

her up Lie wait

51:44

what Paul I was just saying

51:47

that I felt like she should She

51:49

should be able to be there to at least tell her

51:51

side in jail To

51:54

the cop no one took a statement. No one

51:56

took a statement. I don't know where his partner

51:58

was I don't Also, the

52:00

cop is going to arrest both of these guys,

52:03

tell it to the judge, who's pressing

52:05

charges? Is that what I'm saying?

52:09

Who's the aggrieved party? And why is

52:11

she so surprised that he's her boyfriend

52:13

when he left a note like this?

52:16

Okay, is this note framed? It

52:20

is. I mean, it

52:22

seems some sort of... Because at

52:24

first I thought he took the menu. That's

52:27

what I think he did do. Just like that's what he's

52:29

done. Okay, but what a

52:31

weird choice the movie makes here. Well,

52:33

they're just in New York staying at

52:36

the San Carlos. Right. Just

52:38

let him write a note. Like, why

52:41

put it in the frame or take out

52:43

the frame? Like, maybe that was the Wi-Fi

52:45

and password. Yes.

52:47

Also, see you downstairs.

52:51

See you downstairs? Like,

52:54

you're an amazing woman. I cannot wait

52:56

for our future. See you at breakfast.

52:59

Like, this is the

53:01

note where you're like, oh, I was

53:03

drunk. Oh,

53:06

I hooked up with an idiot. Why

53:09

did I do this? He is a true...

53:11

And I did really enjoy his performance

53:13

because it's like, oh, he's

53:15

an actual idiot, you know? And

53:18

by the way, June? It was

53:21

refreshing. June best errands type. That's

53:24

true. Erin dates morons. Because

53:26

I do think like, Erin's kind of an idiot

53:28

too, but she's one of those idiots that's like,

53:30

I want to be in a relationship where I

53:33

can feel like I'm the smart one. Yeah. And

53:36

but like, everybody else is like, you're both idiots.

53:39

Wait, I'm also remembering when

53:42

they're falling in love and telling their backstory.

53:44

She's like, I grew up on Staten

53:46

Island every day. It's just a ferry to school. Wait,

53:49

you took the ferry to school? And I'm sorry.

53:51

That's bigger than... Not like you grew up on

53:53

Roosevelt Island. Also, it's like, there's not

53:55

a single person in Staten Island that

53:57

talks like that. Yeah. There's you staring at me. I'm

54:00

from Staten Island every day. No

54:02

you're not from Staten Island. I went to a friend

54:04

school. I checked this. My commute to school is three

54:06

and a half hours. If you grew up

54:09

in Staten Island, you screamed. She dated

54:11

Pete Davidson. Left Staten Island. I love

54:13

that. Boy

54:15

would I love that. And

54:17

by the way, if you're from Staten Island,

54:19

throw out a Wu-Tang Clan reference. Come on.

54:22

Protect your neck. Give me something. Tell

54:25

it to the judge I wrote. That's

54:27

a revenge. The cop kept saying,

54:30

tell it to the judge. It

54:32

made me laugh. So, tell it

54:34

to the judge. Tell it to the judge. What?

54:38

Come on. It doesn't even seem like they get

54:40

tried. It doesn't even seem like that's part of

54:42

it. The only chemistry in this movie, like

54:45

straight up, is Aaron and

54:47

Carly, period. The

54:50

only couple though that I'm interested in,

54:52

Taylor and Carly. Give me that forever.

54:55

Let Taylor and Carly be a couple.

54:57

Let them raise all the pups. Taylor

54:59

and Carly? I want it. I'm

55:02

shipping Carly. Are they even

55:04

a bit seen together? No, but they are

55:06

the only normal people in the movie, according

55:09

to me. No, Taylor's

55:11

not normal. I do think Taylor's

55:13

psychotic as well. Taylor's a movie

55:15

where everybody is psychotic. Carly

55:18

is not psychotic. Yes, of course

55:20

she is, babe. Of course she

55:23

is. She hired Aaron just to

55:25

fix her brother, who's her boss,

55:27

even though Carly is clearly a

55:29

genius. Carly is not a-

55:33

Martin is like a- Martin is

55:35

like a Dutch wooden shoe. A

55:39

sable? Is he a sable? He's

55:41

a sentient clog. This

55:44

dude is a fucking dunce

55:48

times a million. I mean,

55:50

again, all- She

55:54

could have brought so many things to the

55:56

table. The thing that she- Like, he didn't

55:58

figure out that dog gone. And

56:01

I love that he goes like this, like, let's

56:03

rename it, Dog and Found. We

56:05

don't like that. And he's like,

56:08

Animal Tracker. And then someone goes, oh,

56:10

it rhymes with Animal Crackers. I like

56:12

it. Yeah,

56:16

agree. That's the thing, everybody's an idiot.

56:18

Everybody's an idiot. Why? Why

56:21

is the fun, this is a movie, I

56:23

think this movie is for people at home

56:25

to feel like, oh, I'm smarter

56:27

than them. At

56:30

least I'm smarter than them,

56:32

and they're millionaires. When she arrives

56:34

at Dog On, and they're hooking

56:37

up collars to dogs that appear

56:39

to have, I don't

56:41

know, lunch boxes attached to them.

56:44

There are people, scientists are in

56:47

lab coats, but in the middle

56:49

of the office. So it

56:51

doesn't seem like that's a sterile environment. And

56:53

it also seems that they don't need to

56:55

have the dog in a sterile environment to

56:57

put the collar on. Anyway, I

57:00

just wanted to put this one scene up, because

57:02

we can see the relationship between these two people.

57:05

My fiance here. And

57:08

he's kind of like, help me on my wedding day.

57:10

Can you pause for a second, Mom? Can you

57:12

hear her? No. My

57:15

fiance. My fiance. Shwish, shwish, shwish, shwish, shwish,

57:17

shwish. My fiance. Can I have a family

57:19

wedding day? She left me on a wedding

57:21

day, sitting alone. They sound like

57:23

the Quiet Place monsters, right? She

57:26

would be the one that would actually survive in

57:28

the Quiet Place, no problem. It's like when you're

57:30

on the Amtrak quiet car and you see a

57:33

couple get into a fight. Why

57:37

didn't I just want my aunt to stay here? You're not, no.

57:40

You should have stood up for me when your

57:42

mom said that. I don't understand. Your mom was

57:44

clearly belittling me. No, babe, babe,

57:46

babe, babe, babe, babe, babe, babe,

57:48

babe, come on, babe. I

57:56

know. Carly's got all the

57:59

earrings. You. Do you? Oh.

58:03

No. I don't know.

58:05

Now please don't pause it for a

58:07

second. Poor dog. Poor dog. Poor dog.

58:09

Poor dog. And

58:12

this is the only time, this

58:14

is the only time I can

58:16

legitimately say, look at those sweater

58:18

puppies and I'm talking about those

58:20

puppies. At this

58:22

point in the movie I thought, for

58:25

sure, because when I say we watched this

58:27

movie twice, we really watched, I think half

58:29

of it the first time. You fell asleep the

58:31

first time. So I didn't see the second half. I saw all the

58:33

way up to the fight. Okay. So

58:35

I, up until during this scene

58:37

I was like, I think that Carly's

58:40

like an elf? That's what I

58:42

thought. Whenever he's rewatching it,

58:44

he's gonna be Santa. Well

58:46

let's talk about that. So

58:51

we find out, although we already know because they

58:54

don't do a great job of hiding it, that

58:56

he's playing Santa Claus to a

58:59

bunch of... Orsons? Yeah.

59:02

Kids, he goes, he's repeatedly... And

59:05

why would he need to hide

59:07

that? He repeatedly arrives at work

59:09

in a Santa costume. Quite often

59:11

and I think year round. And

59:14

when he's in, and multiple times

59:17

in the elevator with Aaron, he

59:19

also inexplicably just doesn't talk. As

59:23

if Santa doesn't... As if

59:25

that's like a private moment? That's why I

59:27

thought he kept on saying I need to get it done by

59:29

Christmas Eve, because he was Santa and this is gonna be

59:31

the gift that Santa was gonna give to all the dog

59:33

owners of the world. And then his

59:35

sister was an elf who was like Santa

59:37

needs love because he's so obsessed with getting

59:39

toys for other kids. So that was the

59:41

story I was following. Well and also what...

59:44

Well okay, to your credit, I

59:46

want to piggyback off of exactly what you said, because

59:49

I do think the movie is suggesting

59:52

that, because it puts Aaron in the

59:54

Mrs. Claus red suit and she says...

59:56

Yes, sure it does. Or what

59:59

did she say? Mrs. Kringle or whatever. I'm

1:00:01

the Mrs. Kringle or something like that. And there

1:00:03

is a way in which the movie is, wow,

1:00:06

the movie has all of the

1:00:08

ingredients for a movie

1:00:11

that could have worked, but it

1:00:13

really isn't interested in doing any

1:00:15

of it. Like it's about Aaron

1:00:17

and it's about Mrs. Claus finding

1:00:19

a Santa Claus, who's

1:00:21

a Scrooge who needs the 12

1:00:23

pups of Christmas. Every one

1:00:25

of them is a stage of the cross for

1:00:28

Jesus Christ. Obviously. Right,

1:00:30

the 12 stations of the cross.

1:00:32

Obviously. Christ, He has to

1:00:34

walk the stations in order to be crucified.

1:00:36

He dies for our sins. Amen.

1:00:40

He is Christmas. Put Christ back in Christmas,

1:00:42

people. If we give you one message tonight,

1:00:44

that's the one to leave with. We've always

1:00:46

said it. This is what

1:00:48

we're talking about. The 12 pups of Christmas, the

1:00:51

12 stations of the cross. Anyway,

1:00:53

the 12 pups of Christmas could

1:00:55

have been how we get from

1:00:57

Scrooge to Santa to Mrs. Claus.

1:00:59

And instead they're like, we got

1:01:01

to go to New York. So

1:01:03

you can pitch the Asian businessman

1:01:05

where they play weird Asian music

1:01:07

in the movie. Which

1:01:09

is terrible. Next level of that.

1:01:12

There is a gong in the

1:01:14

movie. This

1:01:16

movie has a gong sound effect.

1:01:19

And again, she's so good with people or

1:01:22

whatever, but she doesn't understand that this man

1:01:24

is not. She has, she's

1:01:26

pitching for 20 minutes before she realizes

1:01:29

that he does not understand. I like to

1:01:31

believe that they shot that scene and cut

1:01:34

it because they were like, it's offensive. Before

1:01:37

we go out to the audience, I want to do something

1:01:39

that we've never done here. Give

1:01:41

up. So

1:01:44

I don't know if you have,

1:01:48

if you've been hearing about this, but

1:01:50

there is this AI bot. Okay.

1:01:52

And so what, you got so

1:01:54

scared. Yeah. What did you do, Paul?

1:01:56

All right. So this AI bot, you

1:01:59

type in a question. and the AI

1:02:01

bot will give you an

1:02:03

answer. And so our producer, Scott, typed in

1:02:05

a question. Can you please write a

1:02:07

script scene of how did this get made of the

1:02:10

podcast host discussing the movie 12 Pups of Christmas live

1:02:12

in front of an audience in San Francisco? Wait,

1:02:15

you can, wait, this is real? Yup. Not understand.

1:02:18

So this is Jason's script pass at the Jason.

1:02:20

What? This is June's script

1:02:22

pass at the June. Oh. I'm

1:02:27

not gonna look at this. Yeah. I

1:02:29

will read stage directions here and we go

1:02:31

interior, San Francisco

1:02:33

theater night. Paul, Jason and

1:02:36

June are standing on stage. Can I pause for a

1:02:38

second? The bot wrote this? Yes. I'm

1:02:41

totally serious. That's what I'm wondering. The bot

1:02:43

wrote even this. Yes. Okay, got it,

1:02:45

got it, got it. Interior, San Francisco theater night.

1:02:47

Paul, Jason and June are standing on stage in

1:02:50

front of a large audience. Welcome to

1:02:52

How Did This Get Made live from San Francisco.

1:02:55

How Did This Get Made live from San

1:02:58

Francisco? Shut up. I

1:03:02

have a line. Today

1:03:04

we're gonna be discussing the holiday movie 12

1:03:07

Pups of Christmas. I have to say, I was

1:03:09

not expecting this movie to be as bad as it

1:03:11

was. The title itself is ridiculous. Yeah,

1:03:14

then when you actually watch it, there are

1:03:16

only six puppies in the entire movie. And

1:03:20

the plot is just all over

1:03:23

the place. It's like they

1:03:25

threw in every holiday movie cliche.

1:03:28

They could think of. Right, the poor dog

1:03:30

acting was also a major distraction. I've never

1:03:32

seen such poorly trained puppies on screen. And

1:03:35

let's not forget about the villainous real estate

1:03:37

developer who wants to tear down the mansion

1:03:39

and build a mall. It's

1:03:41

just so over the top. But

1:03:44

the worst part has to be the

1:03:47

terrible Christmas songs they play throughout the

1:03:49

movie. It's

1:03:51

like listening to your drunk uncle sing

1:03:54

jingle bells at a family gathering, but

1:03:56

with the puppies humping each other in

1:03:58

stir. Jason. How

1:04:01

did B.A.I. know? I'm the pervert! Jason,

1:04:05

that's not appropriate. Yeah, let's

1:04:07

try to keep it clean,

1:04:09

Jason. Sorry, sorry. I got

1:04:11

carried away. That's all right.

1:04:14

Now, on a more serious note, June and I

1:04:17

actually have a funny story about our marriage and

1:04:19

12-fuck the couple. Right. So, we

1:04:21

were watching the movie in our first

1:04:23

Christmas together, the married couple, and we

1:04:26

were both so disappointed by it that we ended up

1:04:28

getting into a huge argument. And then, in the heat

1:04:30

of the moment, we both just started barking at each

1:04:32

other like puppies in the movie. But then, out of

1:04:34

nowhere, we heard a knock on the door and it

1:04:36

was a pizza delivery guy. And he looked at us

1:04:39

like we were completely insane, standing there barking at each

1:04:41

other like a couple of lunatics. He was so absurd, but

1:04:43

it ended up breaking the tension and we started laughing about

1:04:45

it. Yeah, it's one of those moments that

1:04:47

we look back on now and we can't help but chuckle.

1:04:49

Exactly, and it's a reminder that even the worst movies can

1:04:51

bring us closer together. Thanks for joining

1:04:54

us tonight. We'll see you next time on How Did This

1:04:56

Get Made? I am

1:04:58

so confused. For real. For

1:05:02

real. I don't understand

1:05:04

it. So, we put it in again. Let's

1:05:07

see what it comes up with for a second time. And

1:05:10

this one, the audience is in here a little bit more. There

1:05:13

we go. Interior, San Francisco theater night, Paul, June,

1:05:15

and Jason are on stage. Microphones

1:05:17

in hand as they discuss the 12 Pups of

1:05:19

Christmas. So, what did everyone

1:05:21

think of this movie? I

1:05:24

thought it was absolutely ridiculous. Yeah,

1:05:26

I mean, I can't even imagine how

1:05:29

this idea came about. Let's

1:05:31

make a Christmas movie about 12 puppies

1:05:33

that saved the day. Audience

1:05:36

laughs. And

1:05:39

the thing is, it's not even a good Christmas

1:05:41

movie. I mean, there's no romance, no heartwarming moments,

1:05:44

just puppies doing silly things. And the acting is

1:05:46

terrible. I don't think any of those puppies were

1:05:48

actually trained to do the things they were doing.

1:05:51

Speaking of things being trained, did you guys hear the

1:05:53

one about the guy who trained his dog to give

1:05:56

him oral? Audience laughs.

1:05:59

The audience... His laugh. His

1:06:21

boss gets me! Okay

1:06:25

Jason, let's keep it PG please. Sorry, sorry,

1:06:27

but seriously this movie is so bad! You

1:06:29

know what's even worse? The fact they made

1:06:31

a sequel. Oh god, don't even get me

1:06:34

started on that. But speaking of sequels, did

1:06:36

you guys know that June and I actually

1:06:38

got married on the set of

1:06:40

the sequel to this movie? Audience dap. Yeah,

1:06:45

it was kind of a spur of the moment thing.

1:06:47

We were both so fed up with the production that

1:06:49

we just decided to elope. And the best

1:06:51

part? We exchanged our vows while a bunch

1:06:53

of puppies were running around our feet. Audience

1:06:55

lab. Yep,

1:06:59

it was a pretty ridiculous day, but hey, at least

1:07:01

we have a funny story to tell now. And a

1:07:03

terrible movie to look back on. Definitely, but hey, that's

1:07:05

what makes it so perfect for how did this get

1:07:08

made. I

1:07:17

don't know about all this. I'm

1:07:19

expelled. I feel revealed. I

1:07:25

feel vulnerable right now. I do too, and

1:07:27

I don't like this. It's

1:07:29

so interesting. The first, each of the

1:07:32

scripts is thirds, right? The first third

1:07:34

is we're talking about the movie. The

1:07:37

second third is I say something gross, you guys

1:07:39

correct me. And the third third is

1:07:41

your guys' marriage. That's

1:07:44

both scripts or that. That's

1:07:47

fucking crazy! I

1:07:51

freaked out right now. What is this Paul? Why did

1:07:53

you do this? This is what Scott found it to

1:07:55

everyone's talking about it. Alright, I'm going to go out

1:07:57

to the audience right now. All

1:08:02

right, sir, your name, if you have a dog name, you

1:08:04

can give me that, the one that would be great for

1:08:06

12 pups of Christmas. And then your question. Uh,

1:08:09

Damani, and then maybe, um, Mistletoe?

1:08:11

Ooh, I love that. So

1:08:14

I'm trying to make sure I understand this correctly. Carly,

1:08:18

uh, so she accepts the

1:08:20

job in San Francisco before

1:08:24

she knows that her fiance is

1:08:26

going to break up with her. Is that correct? That

1:08:28

is... Carly, Carly is... Aaron. Yes,

1:08:32

yes, yes. But Carly has

1:08:35

hired her, even though she knows she's married,

1:08:37

to come date her brother. Yeah, you see,

1:08:39

that was my issue. Oh, I think she's...

1:08:42

Oh, wow, yeah. She said, at the end

1:08:44

of the movie, she said, I did your,

1:08:46

I did my research on you, and I,

1:08:48

and I knew that you were divorced because

1:08:50

when she said... Okay, you know what

1:08:52

though, Paul? I think Carly is

1:08:54

so brilliant. And I think Carly

1:08:56

probably has already hacked into that

1:08:58

private server. Maybe. Wow.

1:09:01

She's a CEO nine times. Yeah,

1:09:04

Carly's a hacker. We

1:09:06

just missed the scene where she,

1:09:08

like, hacks like Hugh Jackman to,

1:09:10

like, rap rock and figures

1:09:12

out, like, that, that Aaron's been dumped. Here we

1:09:14

go. Your name, question, dog, name,

1:09:16

dog question. Yeah. My name

1:09:18

is Reagan. Dog name, Holly Berry. My question

1:09:20

is, at the very end of the movie,

1:09:22

the angel investor who comes in and saves

1:09:24

the company, is his dad who he met

1:09:27

in jail? And

1:09:29

you didn't know that his dad was

1:09:31

a billionaire? Well, yeah, I was confused

1:09:33

about that too. I was going to ask him, did I

1:09:35

miss something? Oh, I think his dad came and bailed

1:09:38

him out of jail. Oh.

1:09:40

But it was really confusing. And the way it was

1:09:42

set up as the one that met him in jail.

1:09:44

And I agree that that was a... I

1:09:46

mean, listen, are you suggesting the movie is

1:09:48

not well written? Or is

1:09:51

confusingly written? Absolutely. It

1:09:54

was interesting

1:09:56

that the dad didn't join the first round of

1:09:58

funding, but was like, that the company's

1:10:00

in this position, I'm in. But

1:10:03

also, he's in the club now. He's

1:10:05

blazing it. I'm with the dad. I'm with

1:10:07

the dad. That other product was not good.

1:10:10

I wouldn't have invested in it either. I

1:10:12

guess. Martin is dragging

1:10:14

Carly down with him. I do,

1:10:16

San Francisco, I hate to do this. I've had so much fun.

1:10:18

I do have to get on a flight back to LA and

1:10:20

I know this is a huge disappointment. I know,

1:10:22

I know. We have our wonderful nanny

1:10:24

has given birth, so we are desperate

1:10:26

in childcare situations. So that's why June

1:10:29

is going to go back and I'm

1:10:31

going to figure out how to get

1:10:33

back there in a couple days. So

1:10:35

sorry to leave you. And if Paul

1:10:37

doesn't come back, enjoy San Francisco, enjoy

1:10:39

Paul's share. Obviously,

1:10:43

we had an opinion about this movie, but there are

1:10:45

people out there with a different opinion. It's now time

1:10:48

for second opinions. Yeah.

1:10:51

Yeah. A

1:10:54

review page of Amazon. Here's

1:10:59

my second opinion. The

1:11:04

movie's greatest good. Hey,

1:11:08

the therapist for dogs. And

1:11:14

in this weird text art, there's no one

1:11:16

in a jar. I

1:11:24

met her with dogs and people. I

1:11:29

remember being by my dog. Amazing.

1:11:36

Amazing, what was that? Great

1:11:39

work, great work. Very

1:11:41

festive. All right, so there are

1:11:43

93 total reviews, 59%

1:11:46

are five star, 10% are one star. We'll

1:11:50

read some of those one stars as well. But

1:11:52

this one is written by anonymous, May 22nd, 2020. I

1:11:56

love this movie. The hacker group? I

1:12:00

think so. When they're not... I

1:12:02

would love it if that's... Anonymous was...

1:12:05

If that's part of what they were up to. It's

1:12:08

just leaving Amazon reviews for holiday

1:12:10

movies. You know, you work hard,

1:12:12

you play hard. Anonymous writes, Love

1:12:15

Charlotte Sullivan in this movie so

1:12:17

good. Love her.

1:12:19

You're being real pervy with this boy, her. Wait,

1:12:21

hold on. I love... I

1:12:24

love this movie. Charlotte Sullivan is so good

1:12:26

in this movie. I love her. See

1:12:29

her, be her, self shy, and

1:12:31

see her different role than Rookie

1:12:34

Blue. Love her as Gail

1:12:36

Peck on She Is One of My Favorites

1:12:38

of the show besides Elio O'Brien. The one

1:12:40

who played Tracy and Chloe Dove and Oliver

1:12:42

and Captain Noel. Happy face. Applause,

1:12:45

applause, thumbs up, star, star, star, star,

1:12:47

star. I could watch this over

1:12:49

and over again. Like buy it on DVD, own

1:12:52

it now. We'll go to DVD. DVD

1:12:54

emoji. DVD emoji. Now,

1:12:57

that's a weird review. But,

1:13:03

as our producer Scott pointed

1:13:05

out, three people clicked

1:13:07

that review as being helpful. Wow. Cool.

1:13:11

You keep reading. I'm sorry, I'm going to go pee. Oh,

1:13:14

yeah, well this is... Yeah, great. Be

1:13:16

right back. Okay, got it. And

1:13:18

then this one right here is from

1:13:20

Heather McKenzie. Not afraid to use her

1:13:22

full name. It's a one star review.

1:13:25

And the title is Not a Feel

1:13:28

Good Christmas Movie. The lead

1:13:30

character is a bitter, spiteful,

1:13:32

juvenile person who is a

1:13:34

canine therapist. She insists the

1:13:36

dogs are intuitive to human

1:13:38

feelings and yet she's

1:13:40

not a happy person. I

1:13:42

would not take my lab to her because

1:13:45

they would come back like Oscar the Grouch. The

1:13:49

puppies are cute though. One star.

1:13:55

And what I'll mention here is another one of our

1:13:57

producers, Molly, she points out that she has a friend.

1:14:00

who was a background artist in this film,

1:14:02

and all the San Francisco scenes were shot

1:14:04

in LA. It was all

1:14:06

shot during the summer, and the actors were

1:14:08

very uncomfortable in their winter clothes. They

1:14:11

did shoot some scenes in New York City,

1:14:13

but also it was summer, because people in

1:14:15

the background are wearing t-shirts and shorts. At

1:14:19

one point behind the lead actors, you see two

1:14:21

jet ski riders go by. And

1:14:28

finally this director, Michael

1:14:30

Felter, seems

1:14:33

to have taken a sharp pivot with

1:14:35

this film, as his earlier films were

1:14:37

Bundy, A Legacy of Evil,

1:14:41

Boston Strangler, The Untold

1:14:43

Story, Ed

1:14:45

Gein, The Butcher of Plainfield,

1:14:48

Chicago Massacre, Colin

1:14:51

Richards Beck, and BTK.

1:14:56

But once he did make this movie,

1:14:58

we did get to see a different

1:15:01

side, and we are now going to get

1:15:03

to show you some of that different side,

1:15:06

because he also directed The Dog Who Saved

1:15:08

Christmas, The Dog Who

1:15:10

Saved Christmas Vacation, The

1:15:12

Dog Who Saved the Holidays, A Christmas

1:15:15

Wedding Tale, A

1:15:17

Dog's Christmas Miracle, and

1:15:20

A Golden Christmas Three. So

1:15:23

real, like when you talk about

1:15:25

the greats, Kubrick, Spielberg,

1:15:27

put Michael Pfeiffer in there,

1:15:30

he goes from serial killers

1:15:32

to just dogs having fun

1:15:35

at Christmas. The movie came

1:15:37

out in 2019, the tagline is,

1:15:40

this Christmas brings a little puppy love,

1:15:42

and there's no tomato meter rating here,

1:15:44

but Jason, I think that you,

1:15:46

June, and I can all agree, this is a must

1:15:48

watch. Absolutely.

1:15:51

I mean, this was,

1:15:54

this, I mean, I, again, we didn't

1:15:56

get to so many of the notes that

1:15:58

I made, which was, Which

1:16:00

is always for me the case in

1:16:02

in a movie that I truly Thoroughly

1:16:05

enjoyed for what we're doing is that I'm looking at this thing and

1:16:07

I'm like, oh wait, we didn't talk about this We didn't talk about

1:16:09

it. I feel I love that this movie is absolute

1:16:14

dogshit literally The

1:16:18

scene we briefly mentioned that they're falling in

1:16:20

love in New York in the winter scene

1:16:22

is like shot clearly in summer I Wrote

1:16:25

down there is no chemistry between any of

1:16:28

these people. I wrote down tell it

1:16:30

to the judge so many times I

1:16:34

wrote down one line that I really wanted to talk

1:16:36

about where she arrived at the Christmas

1:16:38

party goes I forgot it was Christmas What

1:16:42

this company Deserved

1:16:44

to fail before we

1:16:47

get out of here. I want to take two quick things one

1:16:49

thing is this Drop dead Fred

1:16:51

one of our biggest episodes and one of the most

1:16:53

divisive episodes of all time on We

1:16:56

are read where we at Vanity

1:16:59

where we at Sam

1:17:02

Fran is sanity town Team

1:17:05

sanity getting a lot of cheers in

1:17:07

San Francisco V we are making a

1:17:09

limited edition vinyl album You can pre-order

1:17:11

before Christmas. It won't probably come until

1:17:13

May because we're making one pressing and

1:17:15

then when it's done It's done. That's

1:17:17

it. You have to order by December

1:17:19

21st go to hd tgm dot bandcamp

1:17:21

comm Mitch Garrett's who did our poster

1:17:23

that some of you might have gotten

1:17:25

here is gonna do

1:17:27

original art for the album Labels

1:17:29

themselves. There's gonna if this is this

1:17:32

is fucking cool everybody. This is for

1:17:34

nerds, but this is great stuff especially

1:17:36

if you are Onboard for

1:17:38

what is you know, I believe in arguably

1:17:41

one of the best episodes of this dumb one of

1:17:43

the most insane ones I mean there

1:17:45

was one of the most argumentative ones of all

1:17:47

time. The beauty of the analog recording is that

1:17:49

you can hear Casey Wilson's

1:17:51

vocal cords pop During

1:17:54

the show because she injured her

1:17:56

vocal cords screaming so much. It

1:17:59

was amazing and one

1:18:01

of the few times that we regret

1:18:03

not having people take pictures during the

1:18:05

show because we need more documentation and

1:18:07

we have so little of it. But

1:18:09

it was masterfully engineered by Devin Bryant,

1:18:11

our producer, who is with us here

1:18:13

tonight as well recording the show. An

1:18:15

amazing addition to this team,

1:18:18

an amazing producer, editor, engineer, the

1:18:20

whole thing. One of the great

1:18:22

give it up for Devin! One of the

1:18:24

great give it up for Devin! And

1:18:28

I'll be remiss if I didn't mention this,

1:18:30

but this is not announced yet, but I

1:18:32

figured we're all cool, we can talk about it here. On

1:18:34

December 16th and 17th, Rob Hubel

1:18:36

and I are hosting a show

1:18:38

that we created called Celebrity Garage

1:18:41

Sale, where we are giving away

1:18:43

a Hyundai on Twitch, the

1:18:45

first time it's ever been done. And

1:18:47

we are having insane guests on

1:18:49

there like Randall Park and Janelle

1:18:51

James, Poopies from Jackass. Oh

1:18:54

my gosh, I'm blanking on so many people. Carl

1:18:56

Tartan, a coal buyer. Oh my

1:18:59

gosh, I'm blanking on... What's the

1:19:01

Hyundai? The Hyundai, that one. Oh!

1:19:04

Oh! I'm sorry, I should have looked back. Wow!

1:19:07

Yeah, we're giving away a big car and everyone, the

1:19:09

whole idea of the show is that celebrities come on,

1:19:11

and maybe even Jason will come on, they'll bring an

1:19:14

item, anything from their house, and then you'll have a

1:19:16

chance to bid on it. You don't have to use

1:19:18

real money, and then we'll give it to you, we'll

1:19:20

send it to you so you can get weird celebrity

1:19:22

shit. Like, you know,

1:19:24

if Randall Park's like, this is the t-shirt I wore to

1:19:27

propose to my wife, if you guess the price

1:19:29

of it, you get it. I don't think we can get

1:19:31

that. Is that what he's bringing? We were hypothesizing these

1:19:33

are things that you could bring. That

1:19:35

would be amazing. Yeah, Caitlin... I'd love to own

1:19:38

something that someone proposed to someone. I think, I

1:19:40

mean, Caitlin Olsen will be there, it's gonna be

1:19:42

just jam-packed full of people bringing in on items,

1:19:44

guessing, and we're gonna co-host

1:19:46

with Eva Anderson, who is our appraiser, she will

1:19:48

dictate the price, and then the final end, we'll

1:19:51

be giving away this car. But it's two hours

1:19:53

each day. So it's like one part antiques road

1:19:55

show, one part like celebrity auction. Yes.

1:19:57

Got it. And the only thing we can't do is...

1:20:00

give away our they said

1:20:02

don't give away any any

1:20:04

weapons or anything living so

1:20:06

we couldn't give away 12 pups of Christmas

1:20:09

here that's too bad because I was gonna

1:20:11

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