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You know what? Real dick move. First

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3:23

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third season of Grace and Frankie. So for the next

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where she'll be. Just get out there and sign. Please

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two very special guests, two first timers

3:44

to the show. Please

3:46

welcome, you know her from CW's Whose Line

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Is It Anyway, Heather Ann Campbell.

3:50

Hi, everybody. Hi, how are you? What's

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going on, guys? Hello, Heather. Hi, guys.

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Hi, how are you? I would say before we

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even start talking about this, I read an... an

4:00

awesome article about who's on it anyway the other

4:02

day. It was awesome. About how the show is

4:04

still amazing after

4:06

all these years. Arguably, and

4:09

here we are like 20 years into, for

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me at least, improvising in some way, shape,

4:14

or form. Arguably, my first

4:16

introduction was the British whose line is

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it anyway, and the fact that that

4:20

format continues to succeed and inspire kids

4:23

to improvise is pretty amazing. Yeah,

4:25

yeah. So you have a hand in that. Thank you guys.

4:27

It's you. I'll take full credit. In

4:30

the time of the flat circle situation,

4:32

you inspired me to do this. Wow.

4:35

Now. I'm not sure that that

4:38

track is. You know what? Say thank you.

4:40

Thank her, Jason. Thank you. Thank you Heather.

4:42

You're welcome. Thank you. You're welcome. Also today,

4:44

we have a very special guest, Ben Seaman,

4:47

who is, you might know him from CW's,

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my crazy ex-girlfriend. He plays the grocery store

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guy with the half eyelid. And you're coming

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back, so people can look forward to that.

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I'm hoping so. I was in two episodes,

4:58

season two. I'm pretty sure

5:00

I'm a big character. Yeah. I

5:03

started to be recognized by really aggressive

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people. It's like a

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cult show, so people are really passionate about it. Oh,

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they feel real ownership. This is a very CW friendly

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show. We have two of our guests are from CW

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third guest, Michigan J. Frog, from the WB.

5:24

He won't talk when everyone's

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around. Only

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when one person is by themselves, right? He's actually not

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a mic right now, but he's not saying anything. He

5:33

won't say a thing. I had a small cane in

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top hat just sitting in front of him.

5:38

I had friends who worked at the desk

5:40

at WB when it was before WB came

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to CW. And they had to answer

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the phone going, hello, welcome

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Like secretaries and stuff. Like, yeah, you

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that's awful. All right? that

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should be a dumb podcast. OK. The

6:00

either work the desk for the poor that

6:02

you might I like he like highboy you

6:04

always see eye to those people must have

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like Ptsd from med job that it's as

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though you're worse. You're forcing a stutter every

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time you specify what our someone who recovered

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from a stutter from a div un speech

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therapy all of it as the on it

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and now they're forcing you back into was

6:19

you brought your first Hollywood job working for

6:22

a big time executive and you know like

6:24

Yoga yellow are going to the dub dub

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dub Dub dub be as they did your

6:28

mom calling be like oh. No for

6:30

your efforts are they instantly your

6:32

grass and then they they lose

6:35

everything that they worked on A

6:37

regular person who I'm very excited

6:39

to have you both here and

6:41

Jason to because this movie. Is.

6:43

Kind of. For me it's v

6:46

like the perfect how did this

6:48

get made movie miss it So.

6:50

It's so perfectly wonderfully bonkers. Enjoyably

6:53

fun to watch, rates and is

6:55

eb as bad judgment. Had a

6:57

movie this would be. This movie

6:59

doesn't want his movies so incredible.

7:01

Poor judgment it every single step

7:03

of away and a just don't

7:06

know if you don't know the

7:08

movies that. J. Lo Or is

7:10

Jennifer Lopez that is bad sinus in

7:12

a divorce with her husband we don't

7:14

really know. This is basically all you

7:16

get deep into can understand. the whole

7:18

backstory is is a the or what

7:20

sustains eighty are. Literally

7:23

the first thing here in the move

7:25

the first the movie to games with

7:27

her just jogging and and flashbacks. A

7:29

pleasure to see how she begins by

7:31

having flashbacks. Same opening: a silence

7:33

of the Lambs. Oh. Sees

7:36

running through the forest said you're like finding

7:38

out how her life when oh wow movie

7:41

is a lot like sound similar is basically

7:43

sound of the lambs to arms and I

7:45

was a point out when you view have

7:47

the the earth listen to how blah say

7:50

John Corbett reads as long as someone who

7:52

were let me come home. Know.

8:01

How me that's not coming back from? Tell me that.

8:03

Georgia. Has always are. Mad.

8:10

Ants and that's basically the you're getting

8:12

into this world and they don't really

8:14

sell you have their divorce or of

8:17

they're not really well in the first

8:19

seem they tell you when center with

8:21

is like just signed the devolved I

8:23

has been nine months I was. At

8:25

the and instead is it been like a political

8:27

thriller and you'd seen all that and white tax

8:30

on black. The As Aria nine months

8:32

ago ah of her husband cheated on

8:34

her the they still have not settled

8:36

that the Florida. Area

8:39

is is this movie is

8:41

a just. Absolutely one

8:43

hundred percent like a lifetime.

8:46

With. The like I feel like one of

8:48

those lifetime movies or were you know

8:50

someone who were is about a woman

8:52

School Someone turns on her and it

8:54

is just like a red. but this

8:56

is like he was a this is

8:58

This movie is basically a fatal Attraction

9:00

in reverse. yes you know By the

9:02

sea is just relentlessly pursued by the

9:05

boy next door in a way that

9:07

is very course. it's the phone eight

9:09

so it'll go crazy So quick I

9:11

wrote it down I was a he's

9:13

already a full psycho were like moot

9:15

minute twenty five. Yes oh yes it's

9:17

such a fast turn and even I

9:19

haven't seen Fatal Attraction a while. but

9:21

when they have sex by doesn't it

9:23

just like of all great like it's

9:25

super eights and this like the sex

9:27

at least the first half of it

9:29

as very upset and I present. Says

9:32

know like stormy. Know all that

9:34

I bought all as well when know

9:36

is not working sure. same song. I

9:39

was really worried about that because that

9:41

sends the completely wrong message. Sue because

9:43

it's like he does where's are down

9:45

the minions as he is really into

9:48

it yet. but that's not a good

9:50

message to be shooting out. No idea

9:52

what I suddenly shooting outta. I'm honored

9:55

to describe him as was that the

9:57

shooting out to be. Either.

10:00

Correlation between says this Movie and

10:02

Fifty Shades of Grey both feature

10:04

like Psycho Creepy ah Elsa dude.

10:06

Runs and they both have a

10:08

hardware store seen in the oh

10:11

wow that's a big connects. And

10:13

I feel like you could probably draw a

10:15

diagram of like if you have a hardware

10:17

store scene because it would like. To refer

10:19

other resources. that guy is not gonna turn

10:21

out good, he knows where he didn't specify

10:24

the Us we have a school or whatever

10:26

and walk it back for a second and

10:28

just just give you the idea that's J

10:31

Lo is now separated from her husband are

10:33

best friends prison center with she's got this

10:35

son who's are in line to see the

10:37

best our just in the tell us As

10:40

far as of the movie really resonated with

10:42

me with somebody who has very severe allergies

10:44

and terrorism. Happy been wherever I go. This

10:47

movie was really scary. The

10:49

also set up something in the beginning I thought

10:51

was them to come into place so much which

10:54

is the garage Hide your ass It's like they're

10:56

like oh the garage doors at working and and

10:58

it's it's is a tricky situation where the oh

11:00

yeah the pull this handle it's good to down

11:02

and oh clearly someone's head of him at yeah

11:05

definitely that That's how he would die or someone

11:07

would die if there was just. A set up

11:09

this your thigh set limit. Also an opportunity for

11:11

him to ingratiate himself with the family by

11:13

sixty minutes so he comes in and fixes

11:15

the garage. You also thought like Wallabies and

11:17

how much time wouldn't have Randy likes to

11:19

fall down remember even go to the globe

11:21

an amazing if when she was going through

11:23

and this is a spoiler when she's going

11:25

through his files later. she also found like

11:27

broken garage door. Apply

11:29

what it looks as a garage door and

11:32

of the clutch. on Nov the garage door

11:34

as a clutch and legacy I had to

11:36

google act as ours like do they have

11:38

classes at nobody Ever I. Guess they

11:40

do so distorted or Louis Xiv

11:43

I feel like it was new

11:45

and you and the writer of

11:47

this marino and people that have

11:49

google best assessing the writer in

11:51

the writer is a of like

11:53

out of criminal lawyers something row

11:55

really as soon as a shield

11:57

the Jd from Northwestern university school.

12:00

The on an Msc and screenwriting from You

12:02

Feel A Shoes assistance Us attorney in downtown

12:04

L A for nearly a decade via working

12:06

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12:22

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12:24

on a Cigarette Out by Ah. Shit

12:27

Have written any of that into a movie as I.

12:30

Actually was really specific that they want.

12:32

You know he knows about clutches like

12:34

it wasn't good. At like six six

12:37

everything it was like it's the clutch

12:39

in the garage, the clutch in the

12:41

car max. It's only polite about slave

12:43

like is like that kind of. you

12:45

know he's he's acted with moved in

12:47

next door but they also make great

12:49

effort to be like the he's nineteen

12:52

know used when he was twenty sorry

12:54

sorry sorry that's still a buddies in

12:56

high school. That. Made me make that

12:58

She took away the entire dramatic for us to

13:00

the movies I think as I see a guy.

13:03

Was a rewriting teasing that was like i still

13:05

get. Had to be because they couldn't

13:07

make him and as low tier yes

13:09

your in high school because that would

13:11

see that would be that would almost

13:14

like in this way she's allowed to

13:16

have the fantasy of sleeping with him

13:18

without there being like that that sidled

13:20

yet either twenty or maybe it was

13:22

written a little bit more morally grey

13:24

like me I originally but how it

13:26

was so. Black and White. Maybe it was

13:29

about like how these kids are the I.

13:31

Don't even have you ain't seen.

13:33

You can at least buy it on some

13:36

level but has ceased once the the onset

13:38

of met him. You know, out anywhere

13:40

you know it's like it's it's it's so. Weird

13:42

to expand but that's enough Be other thing is

13:45

I agree with you unless the steam out a

13:47

little because. See. Like. Smoke.

13:49

this twenty year old man and then

13:51

then but then it has like such

13:53

a an inability to like to go

13:55

to anybody for help because i think

13:57

she's afraid she'll lose everything She'll

14:00

lose her family, she'll lose her son, she'll

14:02

go... That's what she says. Yes, I'll lose.

14:04

I can't imagine that's the case. He's not

14:06

underage. He's not even her student

14:08

when they have sex. Yeah, yeah. That's

14:11

the other thing, like, just back it up,

14:13

put them in the class before. Just put

14:15

some stakes to it. There are no stakes

14:17

to it at all. If he

14:19

was 18, it would have been way more

14:21

exciting. And they don't even really... Whoa. Whoa,

14:24

whoa, whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I

14:26

throw a line way of, like, I think he

14:28

doesn't even explain why. He's just like, yeah,

14:31

something happened, so now I'm 20 or

14:33

something like that. There was an accident. There

14:35

was a thing. So basically, I missed three

14:37

years of school now here. Also, like, in

14:40

high school, a 20-year-old is like a

14:42

full-blown adult. Oh, yeah. Like,

14:45

you're terrifying. I would argue a 20-year-old would

14:47

not be allowed in high school. No. They

14:50

would have to get their GED. Yeah, I agree. You're

14:52

like, why? Why is this happening? And

14:54

he approaches high school. Like college. Like, he's wearing,

14:56

like, a tie going in. Like... Oh,

14:59

he's entering, like, quoting poetry, like performing

15:01

for the class. And,

15:03

by the way, this 20-year-old

15:06

has sex with a girl that's probably underage at another

15:08

point in the movie, too. That's true. Oh,

15:11

yeah. Hardware girl. Hardware girl, which I really

15:13

want to get into hardware girl, because we did talk about the hardware stuff.

15:16

First of all, my favorite thing in the hardware store is when they go to get

15:18

the clutch, they go over to the garage door display. Yeah.

15:23

They're just, like, the worst set design of

15:25

all time. Just like, oh, yeah, these are

15:27

all your garage door parts. I've been to

15:29

many hardware stores. I've never seen a garage

15:31

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15:33

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15:35

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19:17

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19:23

poor not it's oh yeah and pressing when

19:25

hardware store girl in the born as our

19:27

have that yes it is dirty what it's

19:29

like that a section of the sexes never

19:31

thousand x of pretty boy oh I as

19:33

up to the sets her J Lo was

19:36

pretty like none. It's it's own surprise for

19:38

J Lo I guess I'm supply of the

19:40

proceeds for though it has a temple that

19:42

kind of accidentally not as as as since

19:44

I'm a surprise to see singing in a

19:46

mainstream. Media are like

19:48

to provide like I feel like I got

19:50

years i target of singer the first. like

19:53

i said i felt like all the

19:55

sex in this movie on the j

19:57

lo boy next door sex with interesting

19:59

because It had as a function

20:01

of it, all of the,

20:03

like in a way that was so interesting and

20:05

is not ever normally seen in a mainstream movie,

20:08

all of the pleasure of the sexual encounter

20:10

was him towards her. Yeah. All

20:13

he, she is, I mean, A, she is saying no,

20:15

no, no, stop, stop, stop for a lot of it.

20:17

But even when she gives into it, she

20:20

is just, he is just fingering her

20:22

and feasting on her pussy constantly. Yeah.

20:24

And that's all, it's as if all

20:26

he wants is to give her pleasure.

20:30

And that's, I feel like never happens in a movie.

20:32

And that's like the, that's why to me this felt

20:34

like a very kind of like interesting,

20:36

weird, like again, reversal of fatal

20:38

attraction, which is like, it really

20:40

is like he is so into

20:43

her and that is so winning. I feel like

20:45

not winning, but like that is so compelling to

20:47

her in that, in the early scenes that

20:50

the turn is just so

20:52

bananas because all

20:55

he's basically doing is

20:57

just worshiping her. Yeah.

21:00

He loves her and they should have, I think again,

21:02

he, and he said, let me love you. Right. He's

21:05

like, yeah, he gives like 20

21:07

red flags just in that sexual

21:09

encounter. Yeah. He really is. There's

21:11

a lot of wrong things, but she, like,

21:14

uh, I feel like in that sex

21:16

scene though, it is, she

21:19

obviously, I think, you know, she falls

21:22

prey to him, right? Like she, like,

21:24

he seduces her, I guess,

21:26

but like they, yeah, go ahead. One of the

21:28

ways in which he seduces her is by

21:30

buying her a first edition. Oh, can we,

21:32

I mean, can we, first edition. All

21:35

right. So just, I mean, it would be

21:37

over 3000 years old. It

21:42

would most likely be on a scroll. Like

21:44

that would be how the first edition would

21:46

be. I mean, unless it's like, oh, it's

21:49

the first edition of

21:51

translation, such and such as

21:53

translation. Yeah. Oh my God.

21:56

She's basically, oh, this

21:58

is the original. Yeah. And

22:01

that's one of those things where I just can't

22:03

imagine that all those people on set and the

22:05

writing and all the processes that nobody brought that up

22:07

at any time. Yeah, it's not like a John Grisham

22:09

book. It's like this book, yeah, this is an

22:11

old, old, male buddy. Did he ever clarify where

22:13

his money, was his money coming from the death of

22:15

his parents? Did he even have money? I

22:17

don't even know. He had a huge truck and

22:20

he bought the first Iliad for a dollar. Yeah,

22:22

for a dollar at a yard sale or whatever.

22:24

But it doesn't seem to even, they

22:27

don't really explore a lot of anything. Like

22:29

he's now here, I guess maybe he got

22:31

his parents' money from when they...

22:33

His truck is like a... A new truck.

22:35

A hundred thousand dollar truck. And did he

22:37

kill his mother? No. His mother

22:39

killed herself. Okay, so this is what we find out at

22:41

the end of the movie. Is that

22:44

he's basically an orphan because he

22:46

has, and that's the whole thrust of a lot of

22:49

the movie, is he has a real vendetta against Heyo.

22:52

Against cheating dads, cheating lying dads. His

22:54

mother killed herself because she found out

22:56

that dad was cheating on her. God,

22:58

and then he killed his dad and

23:00

his cheating whore. Well, I got that

23:02

part because that was a great way

23:04

to show that he was a real whore. She

23:07

was like, they're driving like in a minivan or

23:09

whatever and she lifts up her skirt and he's

23:11

touching her thigh. But what's

23:13

interesting is it shows us this scene which

23:15

none of our characters are present for. It's

23:18

the only flashback with nobody involved. Nobody's perspective.

23:20

The only flashbacks are at the beginning, which

23:23

you can kind of understand, but then this

23:25

flashback, which is completely unnecessary, is drained. You

23:27

cannot have a flashback to a scene in

23:29

which none of the characters in the movie

23:31

are present. That

23:34

flashback is basically his

23:37

imagining of what might, or her imagining

23:39

of what might have, none of it

23:41

can actually be real. Well, to me

23:43

also, unless the truck driver is somebody

23:45

we've met, I don't know. I

23:48

Also had issues with that whole, when JLo

23:50

goes in full on investigation mode. So weird.

23:52

So Shades of blue all of a sudden

23:54

seems like a detective. The San Bernardino Police

23:56

Department is like, oh, you want to see,

23:58

uh, da da da. Like a burned out

24:01

have to buy it adds an accident truck

24:03

in all this stuff our know you're getting

24:05

full access at how we keep them on

24:07

fire. We keep our all of those are

24:09

accident cars ready for over twenty. Was the

24:11

i guess i'm a detective out bow bring

24:13

you a public school teacher down to check

24:15

out. the burned out records are made of

24:17

a car accident happened years ago god knows

24:19

what senator. No signs of foul play so

24:21

they would never have while they were burned

24:23

out has they would have this compacted it

24:25

or gotten rid of in some way. To

24:27

do you think it was weird that like

24:29

when. She was looking at. The files are

24:31

of the of the cars that were caught

24:33

like the one car had the brand name of

24:36

the car and then the other file was

24:38

mean of and makes me. And

24:40

I don't know if it was has like

24:42

chevrolet was like we don't sell mini vans

24:44

or we want other brands mention maybe you

24:46

weren't. Weren't all the cars

24:49

like extremely glossies? fancy version?

24:51

Yes of cars. So I mean his truck

24:53

when you really see that truck assessment of

24:55

that, you turn towards the end of the

24:57

some big ass off and sort of a

24:59

scene where like and where he's like revving

25:01

it's engine in front of her house or

25:04

they're trying to get a subtler the morning.

25:08

And her son of the what's going on

25:10

and have a good question cabin like sits

25:12

not rights units has way more two hours

25:14

and then he gets in the car with

25:16

him at any second delay or yellow he's

25:18

got him and wrapped around his said i

25:20

would be surprises. Use of excessive seven? Do I

25:22

mean no I thought that was those. I felt

25:24

like at the beginning when you first meet the

25:26

boy next door that the sun is like wants

25:29

to have sex with. With. no more

25:31

than am i a movie out as an

25:33

interview with everybody because you instantly one hundred

25:35

percent smitten with him he already has a

25:37

father's to not looking for a father figure

25:39

but he wants to hang out with him

25:41

as a line is that brother their hangers

25:43

used to go to the the allergy doctor

25:45

and then there's this the rods problem and

25:47

then they just don't go to the dark

25:50

and by the way why doesn't he want

25:52

to go to the allergy doctors t is

25:54

on the verge of dying at every step

25:56

of the way like say both buddies that

25:58

the season that the six because you

26:00

said it was bees, but then later on

26:02

you get allergic to punching a bag. Well,

26:04

I don't know like what's this really bothered

26:06

me. Is it asthma? What is it a

26:08

really bothered me? Because

26:10

they say he had an allergic reaction to

26:13

a bee sting, which very serious, I want

26:15

everybody to take that very seriously. But

26:17

then he basically has an asthma attack, which you

26:20

would not presume would put him into anaphylactic

26:22

shock. You get stung by a bee while

26:24

boxing. Maybe. I mean, by the way. Maybe

26:26

he was floating like a butterfly. Stung by a bee. Guys, all

26:29

right. All right, he Muhammad Ali. This

26:31

episode of How Does This Get

26:33

Made dedicated to the champ Muhammad

26:35

Ali. They didn't do anything to

26:38

explain why he had that reaction of punching the bag.

26:40

They could have just thrown a line in there of

26:42

like, oh, the dust or something like that. Or how

26:44

do we get somebody a fucking bee? How about being

26:46

there? Like, why not you introduce the bee? You

26:49

just basically need to remind the audience, oh yeah,

26:51

he has an EpiPen on him because that plays

26:53

an amazing part towards the end, which we'll get

26:55

to. But also

26:57

when he does pull out that EpiPen, that

26:59

was a great scene too with a boy next door. Like,

27:02

ah, where do I put this? He's like, yeah. He's like, he's

27:04

like, post-punching. Yeah, he's like, he's going to shoot it in his

27:06

heart at one point. Yeah. And

27:08

also, it's genuine heroism in that moment.

27:10

Like, for one moment, the kid is

27:13

like a great guy. It was such a

27:15

weird choice. I didn't know if they were supposed to

27:17

give us that so that JLo would like carry

27:20

him on a little bit longer. Like, wouldn't it mean

27:22

they called the cops? It was just for a sentence

27:24

where he was like, you could have, you could have

27:26

thanked me for saving your son's life. Yeah.

27:29

And that was the only callback to that. It seems to

27:31

me, and I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but if

27:33

JLo would have just continued the relationship, this guy would

27:35

have been like one of the best guys he would

27:37

ever have, right? He would have

27:39

loved her completely forever. And he's putting down his

27:42

bone marrow transplant and eating an uncle, which we

27:44

never found out if it really took. I mean,

27:46

obviously, he's then the house, but we don't know.

27:48

He was very sweet to his uncle as well.

27:50

He was. Sweet to his uncle. Didn't

27:53

correct Kristen Chenoweth when she pronounced her as guacamole as

27:55

guacamole. And who else? I mean, like, who else would

27:57

you want to date if you're JLo except for like

27:59

a kid? a young, good-looking guy

28:01

who's like, handy around the house, takes

28:03

care of his elders, and all he

28:05

wants to do is eat your pussy

28:07

immediately. Just pleasure her. Just pleasure her

28:09

all day. Immediately. But interesting that

28:12

when he has sex with another woman, he just wants something

28:14

to go down. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.

28:18

He totally loves J.Lo. He loves J.Lo, and he's

28:20

like, I'm going to crawl in that place.

28:22

Yeah, if there was anything to let us know

28:24

why he liked J.Lo so much, or if he

28:26

just fixates on somebody and wants you to

28:28

fixate. And that's sex scene. Justice.

28:31

Justice was why he fixated on her. That's

28:33

sex scene. Also, I do want to say, she

28:36

only closed-mouth kisses him. Oh

28:38

yeah. She never gives him an open-mouth

28:40

kiss. His tongue is out a lot.

28:42

He's got a real tongue situation. We

28:45

pulled some clips. Nate pulled some clips from the

28:47

commentary track. I have not audio,

28:49

but I want to read what the director says during

28:51

the sex scene. And these are some of it. And

28:54

he goes for it, because he loves her. And everything

28:56

he does to her in this scene is out of

28:58

worship and love for her being. And

29:00

he goes, and he really starts triggering

29:03

her sexual responses. And look at that

29:05

body on Jennifer. At age 44, I

29:07

mean, she's absolutely remarkable. She's got the body

29:09

of a 20-year-old, and she's a mother of twins. She's

29:12

on the road performing American Idol. She's always busy.

29:14

She's one of the hardest working professional women I've

29:16

ever met, and she's still got time to hit

29:18

the gym. So you know I like that. Oh!

29:21

God damn it. He

29:24

takes something where it's like a very

29:26

rare sex scene where it's all about

29:28

the woman being pleasured, and then commentary

29:30

turns it into the grossest of your

29:32

statement. And then he says, this is

29:34

my other one, he goes, with the

29:36

understanding that we really went at it

29:38

to create an intense erotic experience that

29:40

she's hungry for, that she's adoring, swept

29:42

away by his male power and sexuality

29:44

merging with her mature female sexuality, and

29:46

he seems to know just what to

29:48

do. And that's erotic in and

29:51

of itself. He

29:53

also adds, I was the

29:55

physical stand-in for a lot of these things.

30:00

Sometimes the actor wasn't available. So I'm the

30:02

one you know, like James Cameron and Titanic

30:04

drawing I'm the one going down

30:06

on her and I was the fingers in

30:08

the finger I

30:11

didn't wonder if there was I mean not to go back

30:13

to fingering But I did wonder if there is a fingering

30:15

dumble because like stumble dumble Dumbledore

30:18

in this movie. Yeah He's

30:21

created a spell Yeah,

30:24

he put him under the jail of

30:26

stuff. Wow, I am always fascinated by

30:28

sex sexy

30:32

It's hot. Yeah, it's in the new place Before

30:34

we're gonna block this guy before we shoot it.

30:36

So JLo, you don't have to be in this

30:38

Dumbledore. You're in Get

30:44

my wand ready. I was I was

30:46

taking notes during some of the movie I didn't

30:48

did they explain why she had stripper heels. Oh,

30:51

yeah, because okay Kristen Chenoweth gave them to her

30:53

Oh good. They went on a double date or

30:55

she was gonna go on a double date. Oh,

30:57

right? Yes We're she wore that date. Yes Was

31:01

she wearing them? Yes, because I didn't

31:04

see that because she when she was

31:06

walking in vacant Chinatown There

31:13

was easily seven people at the fall fling.

31:15

Oh the fall fling was equally I like

31:17

I felt like they're empty Empty

31:19

empty Chinatown Street, you know, what neighborhood

31:21

is constantly full of people at dinnertime

31:23

at night Chinatown? There wasn't one extra

31:25

it wasn't it was zero. It was

31:28

like an early dinner. It wasn't like

31:30

late night Chinatown. No, it was Kind

31:33

of like I could think of was like JLo's

31:35

like I don't want extras in this scene And

31:37

they're like, okay, then we won't have anyone if

31:39

we won't even have a sign of a life

31:41

on the street It was very oddly she's walking

31:44

down Main Street Chinatown and wherever they're living empty

31:47

That date Yeah,

31:49

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

31:51

yeah, yeah, they wanted us to really like

31:53

have a contrast of it That date was

31:56

terrible terrible. I'm a holy cow. That guy

31:58

was a monster like they definitely wanted

32:00

us to hate him with every fiber of

32:02

her being. And also for us to recognize

32:04

that in comparison, TBND,

32:07

the Boy Next Door,

32:09

was much, much more

32:12

attentive, more thoughtful, smarter,

32:15

more intelligent. Every

32:17

bit of what that guy isn't

32:19

is embodied in the Boy

32:22

Next Door. I really did

32:24

love when she dropped the mic

32:27

basically by going, J.K. Rowling,

32:29

billionaire, classics major. And

32:32

like turned on those stripper heels. And by

32:34

the way, they're in fucking high school. So

32:36

who cares? Like you don't go like, oh,

32:39

I'm in high school to get out and make money. It's

32:41

like, if you see, again, this is where the

32:44

logic of the movie is flawed. It's like, she's

32:46

teaching a high school English class. She's not like

32:49

the, she's not teaching the, it's not

32:51

a major. I mean, she's not like

32:53

a professor. How did she afford

32:55

that giant house? I'm

32:57

assuming that's Corbett's. Corbett's. Corbett

33:00

on the weekend is building computers for his

33:02

son. Yeah, building computers who has like

33:05

some sort of job where he

33:07

has to go to San Francisco where he fucks

33:09

his secretary. Yeah. Because we all

33:11

know San Francisco is like, sex city. I thought they

33:13

were going to tie the girl that he cheated on

33:15

with that kid. Like because they're

33:17

both. Oh wow. But maybe that, you know.

33:20

I had like one minute for some reason

33:22

I thought that Kristin Chenoweth and John Corbett

33:25

were having the affair. Corbett. John

33:28

Corbett. For a second I thought they were having

33:30

an affair because they were that thing of like,

33:32

she smelled like cookies. Oh yeah. And

33:35

then later in the movie, J.Lo smells a

33:37

chocolate chip cookie. Yeah. And J.Lo's

33:39

always making cookies. That's weird. Did

33:42

she smell it because Noah had taken a

33:44

bite out of it? No, she smelled it

33:46

because Kristin Chenoweth in the scene earlier in

33:48

the movie tells her that Corbett

33:50

said to the woman he was cheating with.

33:52

In any amount. That you smell like

33:54

chocolate chip cookies. The woman, the girl.

33:56

Exactly. And then also the. And so she smelled

33:58

its cookies to be like, what is this way? What did the wife, what

34:01

did the girl that my husband cheated on

34:03

smell like? Oh! And Boy

34:05

Next Door says to her in front of

34:07

the dinner table, I really like your cookies.

34:10

Oh yeah. Yeah. We

34:12

should play that scene, the wet cookie scene. Oh boy. Because

34:14

this is like a great double entendre scene. So

34:16

basically the Boy Next Door comes over to kind of just

34:20

kind of mistake his claim a little bit. Here

34:22

we go. And this is, I want to talk about

34:24

this scene, but here we go. Hey Mrs. Peterson. Hey

34:26

Noah. How it looks. Perfect.

34:29

What happened this weekend? What happened? Oh

34:32

there was a big thunderstorm up here. You guys

34:34

didn't get it up there? Oh beautiful. Drives

34:36

the bone of the lake. Oh it got

34:38

pretty wet here. It

34:41

got pretty wet here. Big day tomorrow, first day of

34:43

school. It's getting kind of late. It's like 8 30. Oh

34:46

no no no. Actually I gotta eat going. It's a big day

34:48

tomorrow. Do you want to take a cookie for the roof? I

34:50

love your mother's cookies. Oh shit. So now this

34:52

scene. This is right after they had sex. Well but

34:54

I'm very curious about it. I'm very curious about it.

34:56

I'm very curious about it. I'm very curious about it.

34:58

I'm very curious about it. I'm very confused about this

35:00

because she's hosting the dad and son today. They've just

35:02

come back from a camping trip which she opted

35:05

not to go on. But she's so freaked out in

35:07

the kitchen she's like ahh she's dropping the pie. But

35:10

he's not even there Noah at that point. And

35:13

she's so like. Maybe she was hungover? Maybe.

35:17

Yeah like I would at least buy that because there

35:19

was no reason for it to be that nervous in

35:21

her own home. They're gonna find out. They're gonna find

35:24

out. But there's no reason he's not there. He can't

35:26

handle it. Well maybe that's the.

35:28

It is like I feel like undone. Yeah

35:30

that was her first orgasm. Yeah.

35:34

Like when she wakes up in the morning and because

35:36

here's the thing when she goes okay we I mean

35:38

like yes but we've talked about the sex scene but

35:40

the lead up to the sex scene is

35:42

she's gone on a terrible double date.

35:44

She's at home. Noah calls her and

35:47

she goes over to help him with a little

35:49

drunk. Is she though? Yeah she is.

35:51

She's like a pound and wine on the couch. I guess

35:54

that's true. Because I was like when she gets up in

35:56

the morning I was like you're not drunk enough to

35:58

be like oh no what happened. Yes,

36:00

you know remember she remembers everything. Yeah,

36:02

blasted this kid for hours and his

36:05

hands never left her breath and then

36:08

never As

36:11

an adult woman did not walk next door to

36:13

her own house Yeah left on

36:15

his bed with him I assume and then

36:17

one couch on the couch and then woke

36:19

up as if to say like What has

36:21

happened? I agree. Yeah, she woke up so

36:24

flustered like what happened? I like I made

36:26

a giant a big yeah, yeah, the uncle

36:28

live with them. He's in the hospital for

36:30

bone-arrow Transport

36:35

We made a big mistake We can't do this

36:37

and then he immediately punches the wall in a

36:39

very angry way to let us know that he's

36:42

crazy Yeah, and then she and then she's like alright.

36:44

Well, you know what now that you just punch that

36:46

wall Let me sit down with you again. Just another

36:48

bad mistake like let me bandage your hand you psycho

36:50

I'm not gonna go next door We do get a

36:52

lot of the boy next door just because this has

36:54

come up on the show before we do get a

36:56

lot Of the boy next door is buns. Oh,

36:59

yeah, we get buns in the mirror. Where

37:01

do you guys where do you go? We

37:03

we've had an ongoing debate about buns sure

37:05

and and it's all personal. Do you

37:07

like buns? Do you like to see buns? and

37:10

is is buns the for

37:13

men in movies the boobs that is for

37:15

women is it the The

37:18

body part that is like ooh la la

37:20

I can't believe I'm seeing these buns I

37:22

think every time you see buns It's such

37:24

a choice that it's always just takes you

37:26

out of the movie Like yeah, never like

37:29

interesting. It's never somebody walking by the camera

37:31

and like oh you just see a butt

37:33

random run, right? It's always like

37:35

a glory shot. Yeah But

37:38

and that one was I also find thin

37:41

buns to be upsetting. Oh, yeah I think

37:43

but they felt like he's too few like

37:45

a show office, but oh so you want

37:47

you like some beefy buns But

37:49

like a more muscular bun that's like the

37:51

John Claude Van Damme buns. Yes. I thought

37:53

they were nice buns Yeah, okay them. I

37:56

like them. Uh and you first see them

37:58

when they're having sex, right? You don't No,

38:00

you seem in the window. You don't

38:03

see him in the window. Daring at

38:05

himself completely naked in the mirror just

38:07

standing. Like an American psycho. This

38:11

might as well have been the title of the

38:13

young Patrick Bateman. It really

38:16

should be. That's where he goes off to

38:18

where he gets out of the bar. But it's that thing

38:20

of like she's like ogling him

38:22

through the window. I do appreciate

38:24

the reversal of all of the

38:26

traditional gender dynamics that are going

38:28

on throughout all of

38:31

this because it is very enjoyable in that

38:33

way. And the

38:35

way that he is objectified

38:37

is fascinating. They are

38:40

every single person wants to fuck

38:42

him. And

38:44

I thought that was an interesting choice. She really takes

38:47

in his abs in that sex scene too. Well

38:50

he grabs her hands and like pees

38:52

my abs. That

38:54

is so weird. Oh yeah. Like

38:57

as if she is suddenly been struck

38:59

blind. And he's like I want

39:01

you to know I have abs so touch them.

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40:41

One of the things I loved about this movie

40:43

too was that a lot of the movie was

40:45

built on the tail end of jokes.

40:47

I always felt like we were coming in at

40:50

the tail end of a joke or like people were like

40:52

oh yeah. I

40:54

wrote down that her fake laugh is

40:56

so insane. I

40:59

feel like she decided like my character is

41:01

light and bubbly so she laughs at stuff.

41:04

She's laughing constantly for no reason. Well

41:06

you hear these things and then I

41:08

got closer and the window went down

41:10

the dead dog is still in the

41:12

car. Yeah that's like how you begin

41:14

a bad sketch like a date and

41:17

people are laughing and telling the end tail of

41:19

a joke. Yeah there were some weird jokes. A

41:21

lot of just walking in like oh

41:23

didn't you wish you were with us for this

41:25

moment. I enjoyed the buns. I don't

41:27

know how to speak for all gay men but I

41:29

feel like I'm more attracted personally to the chest and

41:32

the abs. And buns I

41:35

guess there's lots of gay men that probably

41:37

like buns because that's where they have sex

41:39

right? But for women it seems interesting. I

41:41

don't know if women are as attracted to

41:43

buns but you have talked about this with

41:45

June and all that. Yeah I think it's becoming

41:47

on record doesn't like buns. So she's against

41:49

buns but I feel like it's a personal

41:52

choice and I feel like that's interesting to

41:54

see where people come from on the buns.

41:56

I wish that maybe he had also turned

41:58

around and then like you saw. reaction

42:00

shot like she has a giant dick.

42:03

He did turn into a window and it's like, it's

42:05

so close, like they could have gotten his dick in

42:07

this movie. Maybe they did and they had to

42:10

cut it for ratings. Yeah, I

42:12

would not have been surprised,

42:15

you know, if we had seen his dick. And it was

42:17

hard, if it was just a rock, a hard dick. Just

42:20

turned around from the mirror. Amazing. How shocking

42:22

would that have been in a movie? Points

42:25

out! Whoa! And then points out

42:27

the window in her. Like Babe

42:30

Ruth. And then her tongue drops

42:32

out and her eyes bug out. And

42:36

you just hear as if her water broke.

42:39

You just hear like a splash. Oh,

42:42

that would be so upsetting. And

42:45

then Kristen Chenoweth walks in and

42:47

it's like, slips in the puddle. And

42:49

then it's just a very slapstick sex scene.

42:52

Kristen Chenoweth and her Susie Orman haircut

42:54

that she has. Kristen Chenoweth has made

42:56

a good career of being people's best

42:58

friends in a lot of movies and

43:00

always giving bad advice. And I feel

43:02

like she, I feel

43:04

like there's a part of me always,

43:06

and I think when we all do stuff, we all

43:09

act and things, when you look at certain things like,

43:11

oh, someone's gonna have to say this to my face.

43:14

And I feel like she must have had

43:16

a gulp moment when she gets abrasive

43:18

with her and it calls her a

43:22

dried up dirty fucking cut. He

43:26

was throughout the movie added fuckings.

43:30

He says at the end, I wrote it down because it

43:32

was so die you piece

43:34

of fucking shit. It's

43:37

amazing. He adds fucking when

43:39

it sounds more like intense with the

43:41

fucking. He does, it's too scary. Those

43:43

were his acting choices to take it to the

43:45

next level. He's like, I took a one on one

43:48

class, I'm gonna improvise, I'm gonna ask

43:50

the stakes. The simple action,

43:52

the singular action that The

43:54

Boy Next Door takes to

43:56

beat up Kevin, J.Lo's

43:59

son. Bully yes, so JLo Sun

44:01

is also being bullied by like some

44:03

skateboard thud Yeah, so

44:06

the kids are making fun of Kevin. They're taunting

44:08

him They call him the whiz because he pissed

44:10

his pants. Oh, I just want to bring up

44:12

one thing too And one point they go hey,

44:14

man, I saw your movie on TM T. Later

44:17

TMC goes the whiz It's

44:19

the black Wizard of Oz Explain

44:21

that's not a thing that we need to get in

44:23

deal like we got it like we like that was

44:25

definitely a note Where someone's like I don't know if

44:28

people know what the way people probably don't know the

44:30

whiz black Wizard of Oz is

44:32

such a weird so the

44:34

boy next door comes in and Fractions

44:37

the kid beats the kid almost to

44:39

death And the only

44:41

person to take any disciplinary action over

44:44

him is Chenoweth a vice principal Like

44:47

did the police are not called no he

44:49

put this kid in this he know The

44:51

boy next door would be put into jail.

44:53

Yeah, so quickly or a solid hundred percent

44:55

It is crazy that the police don't show

44:57

up. There is no nobody they are bad

45:00

Administrators. Oh, yeah, that's cool. He doubles down

45:02

on her. She's like hey. Yeah, you shouldn't

45:05

have done that. He's like flop you

45:09

Where he calls her I'd ride up with her to the

45:11

cold cut Keys to

45:13

the school like because dude he's

45:16

the boy next door. He can do any

45:18

he's googling breaks online He can't see you

45:20

figure out any computers. He can do anything

45:22

and look he's clearly got some amazing technology

45:25

from those little spy cams to get Amazing

45:28

high-res. Yes images like that was

45:30

a Much forethought

45:32

goes into I'm gonna put cameras in

45:34

my alarm clock in case I fuck

45:37

the woman next door Yeah, hey And

45:39

I need to get her into the living room because

45:41

that's really the only need to fuck her on the

45:43

couch Yeah, because that's the only way this will work,

45:46

and I'm only doing that So

45:48

I can blackmail her or I guess maybe

45:50

your coffee. Yeah fine basement, and that was

45:52

weird Yeah, why did because uncle came back?

45:54

I think so we do yeah, but he

45:56

has to sleep in the basement with his

45:58

uncle back You know, that

46:01

was like sex dungeon. Oh, so

46:03

he just jerks it there. He just jerks off

46:05

in that little room. That's just his jerk off

46:07

room, because he fucks hardware girl. Oh,

46:09

yeah, it was also a real bummer. I

46:12

was like, oh, this poor hardware girl,

46:14

because she's the person who is arguably

46:17

the most naked in the movie. Yes.

46:19

So you see her whole naked body,

46:21

you know, just like totally. And I

46:23

was like, whoa, this is presumably a

46:25

16 or 17

46:28

year old girl in the logic of the

46:30

movie. Yeah, it makes me very strange. We're

46:32

not seeing J-Lo. We're

46:34

seeing his buns and chest, but like this

46:36

girl is straight up new. If there's one

46:38

thing I know about the awkward sexual situations you

46:40

find yourself in high school, it's that before you

46:42

give a blowjob... Wait, are you in high school,

46:45

Heather? ...drinks completely naked across

46:47

the room and walks slowly up to

46:49

your partner. Yeah, it was very eyes

46:51

wide shut kind of thing. It

46:53

wasn't a normal sex scene. And it's also like what

46:55

was the deal they made? Why don't you date my

46:57

nerdy little friend and you can blow me. Yeah.

47:01

Like, cool. Yeah, man. Yeah,

47:03

that goes back to what you were saying about like she

47:05

only agreed to do stuff with him because, you know, Noah

47:07

would come in and give her a sexy look. And what

47:10

was her thought? Like, I'll date this guy so that

47:12

I can fuck him later. Yeah, like I have like

47:14

getting good with this one, I can fuck him because

47:16

that's how it works. At the

47:19

hardware store that also says skateboards

47:21

and car parts and like everything.

47:23

It's everything. It's like another

47:25

location. It's the only store in town. And

47:27

everybody's ever there. Also empty. I

47:30

felt like it had that big skateboard display just

47:32

so when the skateboard kids come in, then

47:34

you'd be like, why are they in a hard

47:36

store? Oh, they also sell skateboards. And

47:39

they also sell produce. I

47:42

wanted to talk briefly before we get to the end

47:45

of it, talk about when she

47:47

goes to let in her class, the class

47:49

is anxiously waiting outside her door. Oh

47:51

my God. The class is like

47:54

lined with their sex pictures, which...

47:58

That's like one of the more... those comical scenes

48:00

I've ever seen in film. Oh, it's so

48:02

funny. And the printer is still printing them.

48:04

Yeah. Oh, that was the best cut. The

48:06

printer is still shooting out the images from

48:08

the video. And shooting them onto the floor.

48:11

The floor is full of pictures. They're streamed

48:13

around like it's a quinceanera. And there's a

48:15

great quote from literature

48:17

written up as a threat. I

48:19

hate. She's

48:21

like, quickly shoveling them away. The

48:24

printer's like, hey, let me in. Let

48:26

me in. Why is he so

48:28

angry? So angry that the class is

48:30

starting five minutes late. By the way, it would

48:33

have taken her conservatively 35 to 50 minutes

48:35

to have cleaned all of those up. Oh, forever. And

48:38

cleaned them up in one minute. All under her desk. All

48:40

under her desk. And when I was watching the movie, I

48:42

gave it more credit than I should have. I was like,

48:44

there's no way they're going to be gone. Like, the principal's

48:46

going to come in. Also, it's

48:48

a beautiful day. Yeah. Why don't we just sit in

48:51

the yard and do our lesson in the quad? I

48:53

love there's this very low

48:55

angle Wachowski-esque shot of

48:57

the key going into the door. And for

48:59

a motion. It's like

49:01

totally unnecessary. It is unnecessary

49:03

because the principal does not open the door.

49:06

No. He doesn't unlock it open. She opens

49:08

it from the inside out. And she's always

49:10

on a call. She

49:12

has those hundreds of sheets of paper that she

49:14

stuffed under her desk. And then she goes out

49:16

to talk to him for a long time. And

49:19

I just can't imagine those piles of paper are

49:21

concealed behind the desk. Yeah, they would fall. I

49:23

think she's going to teach the whole class with

49:25

this giant mound of garbage. That

49:28

scene is a complete, like that is every step of

49:34

the way when J.Lo is confronted with the

49:36

actions that she has committed and the repercussions

49:39

that he is threatening her with, she makes

49:41

every wrong choice. Oh. She always

49:43

makes it worse for herself. It's a movie where you make

49:45

a mistake. It's like a horror movie. And you have to

49:47

make a mistake, a mistake, a mistake. And then you're like,

49:49

well, now I don't even feel bad that you're the victim

49:51

because you just made too many mistakes. What a great title

49:53

for a movie would be every wrong choice. Yes.

49:56

That would be so I would go see them. Yes.

49:59

I would. 80% of

50:01

the movies in our, how did this

50:03

get made canon, would qualify. We

50:06

skipped a scene that I really loved where the

50:09

husband is back to have dinner

50:11

or someone spends the night and

50:13

you keep hunting Noah who is

50:15

seriously reading the Iliad while

50:18

having flashbacks of fucking J-Lo.

50:21

We like had a shadow boxing, and

50:26

then reading again. Nobody goes from

50:28

boxing to reading to masturbating to

50:30

reading to boxing. And he's so

50:32

angry because John Corbett's car

50:35

is parked outside and he assumes he's

50:37

fucking J-Lo. There's a really funny piece

50:39

of audio design that happened and Avril

50:41

found this for us. So just listen

50:43

to this. He cuts the

50:45

brakes on John Corbett's car while Noah's

50:48

driving, or while Noah, the boy's driving, the whiz.

50:50

And I think it's interesting, the brakes

50:52

are cut. So the car is losing

50:54

control, but if you listen to it,

50:57

the sound of the car is revving up as

50:59

if the foot is on the gas. So it's

51:01

like, and that's the incident that carried, listen. Kevin.

51:06

Slow this car down. That

51:09

is the sound of gas. Yeah. It's

51:13

like shifting up. It's

51:16

a brake. Down,

51:19

down. Yeah.

51:22

I didn't even think about that. No, it's true. It's just

51:24

a revving car. It's

51:26

as if the kid is hitting the gas

51:28

the whole time. Well, when there's no clutch,

51:30

that's what happens, right? Why, when he

51:32

gets overwhelmed while boxing, does

51:34

he not have one of his

51:36

like, asthmatic panic attacks during, like

51:39

how much, that would have added so

51:41

many stakes. Yep. He

51:43

suddenly couldn't breathe while also

51:46

not able to control his car. Oh, that would have been

51:48

amazing. I would have liked that. I mean, well, you know.

51:50

They should have died. Yeah. That would

51:52

have been amazing. It may be

51:54

amazing. If he successfully, or if

51:56

he killed first John Corbett, it would have been amazing if

51:58

this movie had upped the. And he does

52:01

eventually kill spoilers Chenoweth. Oh when he kills

52:03

Chenoweth, I was like what? Yeah,

52:05

cuz he like sliced her throat. It was a

52:08

Glory very brutal and meanwhile I showed

52:10

her Down

52:14

yeah the first time like all of

52:16

his other murders and everything are like kind

52:18

of untraceable or blackmail ish This

52:21

money's just like fuck it. Yeah, you know killing

52:23

everybody and we're getting out of here Yeah, he

52:25

does not care. I wrote that I wrote that

52:27

his reason I killed her in case she wasn't

52:29

your friend What that's

52:31

what he said. He goes I killed her

52:33

in case she wasn't your friend Oh

52:36

Wow, so like he's pretty cuz she knew all

52:38

the details Yeah, yeah, yeah, but he's like but

52:40

I love that murder is like well in case

52:42

just as a safety precaution I killed in

52:45

case she wasn't your head. It's only now occurring to

52:47

me that Hardware

52:50

store girl was in on it with Noah from the

52:52

beginning Not the beginning beginning because

52:54

she's the one that tells JLo to go to

52:56

the boys bathroom at the fall fling Oh

53:02

Where he is waiting with

53:04

the having written on the wall I fucked Claire

53:06

Peterson and but it is the only boy using

53:09

the boys room They're no extras no extra no

53:11

extra that the fall fling it's a winter It's

53:13

a dance rather and why didn't that never get

53:15

like why that never came back? Yeah, the principal

53:17

just said hey, you know, we've been noticing some

53:19

weird stuff like that gigantic piece of graffiti This

53:22

is I fucked Claire Peterson We want to talk

53:24

to you about that And also like the other

53:26

teachers saw you manhandling like the best-looking 20 year

53:28

old boy who goes to this school like I'm

53:30

not dumb. I think something's up Like

53:33

that that I fuck Claire Peterson.

53:36

No one took care of that Yeah,

53:38

and everyone is very and really

53:40

well done Yeah dance at the

53:42

dance so people had to have been going to the

53:44

five people that were at that dance would evolve Yeah,

53:51

yeah, it's a teen dance that's where everybody is going

53:53

to like secretly drink booze And and what was also

53:56

the the thing like it was just hair that was

53:58

in the same like you pull that out. It was

54:00

paper towels. Okay, I thought he pulled that out. It

54:02

was hair. I thought it was like an extension or

54:04

something like that. I was like, oh, I got this

54:06

from you too. All right,

54:09

so the end. How dare you suggest that J.Lo

54:11

has like, look, you know, her character. How dare

54:14

you? Her character. I like the idea that

54:16

a woman who looks like J.Lo would ever

54:18

be named Claire. Oh, well that goes to my,

54:20

I wrote this down in the beginning. Like, this

54:22

movie is people saying things that they would never

54:24

say. Like, she says schmutz. Yeah. J.Lo

54:27

is never saying the word schmutz. Like, she's like,

54:29

you got some schmutz. And then when they're talking

54:31

about computers, like, yes. Articooled

54:33

PC gaming computer.

54:36

You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

54:38

No one feels like they, even the bullies don't

54:40

feel like they know what they're saying. Everyone's like,

54:42

yeah, I'm saying it, but. But

54:46

we have to know that it's all authentic because it came

54:48

from a real criminal justice lawyer. Yeah. These

54:51

are all things she's seen or heard in the definition. Well,

54:53

yeah. I do have her reason why

54:55

she came up with it. She developed the concept

54:57

for the script after running past her dream house.

55:00

A bad boy her son went to school

55:02

with resided in the house across the street.

55:04

This gave her the concept of a neighborhood

55:06

boy creating conflict and driving a wedge between

55:09

a family. And the first drafts focus more

55:11

on the 12-year-old boy and the mother trying

55:13

to get her son out of the boy's

55:15

clutches. So it was much more that. 12-year-old

55:18

boy. Interesting. So she did slowly age them

55:20

up. At one point, there must have been a. And she

55:22

said she was influenced by Mary Kayla Turnow. There must have

55:24

been a draft at some point where. She was

55:26

younger. There's a 12-year-old boy and maybe a

55:28

15-year-old kid that she fucks. Yeah. I

55:31

bet that's right. Yeah. She fucked

55:33

a 12-year-old boy. I mean, like. I mean, like. There's

55:36

a story right now. There was that story last week

55:38

about the teacher who got pregnant by her 13-year-old student.

55:41

Oh, my gosh. Oh, wow. And

55:43

it's bananas. And they had sex every day. Like

55:46

under the bleachers. The story

55:48

was absolutely crazy. Oh, my

55:50

God. And to me, I feel

55:52

like couldn't you argue that if she did have sex

55:54

with like an 18-year-old or something, he's a senior in high

55:56

school and he was just a little bit younger. Yes,

55:59

it was a mistake. they can. Yes, she's a teacher,

56:01

but he wasn't a nurse class. Yes, like British, you

56:04

would not root for her. Really? Don't? I think people

56:06

would. Not, People would think. I

56:08

would I feel like right now as

56:10

you advance this movie made in the

56:12

eighties Yeah right Yeah, I mean that's

56:14

this movie made and like is this

56:16

it's an eighteen year old Rob Lowe

56:18

or like right some a It's like

56:20

that version of the movie exists like

56:22

class when I like the mom but

56:25

the kids friend from high school but

56:27

it also has a son. Tyler Perry

56:29

asks moral framework like him a thousand

56:31

fucked around and the wife and not

56:33

and happened. That has I'm saying acting

56:35

right. I said right now that wouldn't

56:37

use everybody. Wants to be able to like,

56:39

be like know she should be able to like

56:41

get hers Yes, but not in a way that

56:44

is morally reprehensible Like that It could be perceived

56:46

of as like herding a child, right? right? You

56:48

know? And I think that's why they have to

56:50

make him like space to go some so many

56:53

hoops to be like no, no, no, no, he's

56:55

twenty but he still in high school and it

56:57

doesn't add up at all. No. and and I

56:59

think that's why she had to see no no

57:02

no to him so much because she couldn't really

57:04

be seen like what's the big deal of her

57:06

defenses down. She had some wine. They're eating

57:08

chicken and and all of a sudden

57:10

and then all of them. Yeah, he's

57:13

eating sick ssssss design Mayor. Decides

57:16

pussy take like six assists. I'm

57:18

here to say. Again

57:20

that at St Kilda of form

57:22

of salmonella support and a half

57:24

of his image has to get

57:26

out of there may not not.

57:30

Having studied Silva the uncle or are we

57:33

to believe the uncle was okay because I

57:35

definitely when she went into delete the files

57:37

I I definitely. Thought she's gonna find that

57:39

dead on call my yeah no murdered intimate been

57:41

in my binder lesser. I keep mine on the

57:43

ago ever went on but there are out of

57:45

the aisle the zebra went on to they'll gladly

57:47

Uncle was also got home the rules you scared

57:50

me I think from Iran in that guy was

57:52

always never lists. A basement door open didn't

57:54

see? yeah, so wouldn't be until it's easy.

57:56

to go down the i know i was air i think

57:58

i think know of the boy next door, I

58:00

think his plan is, I

58:02

think he's like ready to leave now. He's like,

58:04

I'm outta here, things have gone down. Like, I

58:06

think I gotta. But I also think he loves

58:09

his uncle. I

58:11

think there is a really weird kind of, he

58:13

does love his uncle and he does think he

58:15

loves J-Lo. He loves, I mean that's. He loves

58:17

too much. He loves too much. He loves too

58:19

much. That's his crime. He's like Lenny and I

58:21

have mice and men. He just squeezes too hard.

58:23

Yeah, they're gonna, he wants them to run away

58:25

together at the end, right? He's like, boobies too

58:27

much? Yeah, boom. You

58:30

guys, just listening to the podcast, they're

58:32

missing a lot of high fives between Heather

58:34

and I. So,

58:38

he's always squeezing her boobs so that we don't

58:40

see them. Well yeah, that's the meaning of it.

58:42

I mean, it's always just boob squeezing and pussy

58:44

eating. Squeezing. And then finger

58:46

blasting. I did love the.

58:49

But he's like finger blasting in a

58:51

way that, it's like the way that

58:53

I feel like soft core movies are

58:55

like, it's like delicate outside touching. Very

58:57

tender. Very loving. And

59:00

she's wearing, she went to that date wearing real

59:03

underwear. Oh yeah, that

59:05

weird brown. She was like, if

59:07

this goes well. Well J-Lo though, there's no slacker.

59:09

I pulled up a picture of just her and

59:11

Nightgown with this slit up the side. She's like,

59:13

she looks great. She's gonna look great all the

59:15

time. She's not, you know. And she's wearing a

59:18

bra to bed every night. Wait a minute, so

59:20

she's gotta be thrusting her hip out sideways to

59:23

get that to work like that. Yeah, used

59:25

to that. Her body's like shooting out. It's

59:28

such a weird slip too, because it's very modest

59:31

looking until you see the guy. And then it's

59:33

all about pleasure. Well, I wanna

59:35

talk about the end of the movie really quickly and then

59:37

we can get into these second opinions, but the end of

59:39

the movie, I think has the best chill.

59:42

Two of the best kills back to back, which

59:44

is the EpiPen comes back in the play. And

59:46

I literally could not watch. She

59:49

fucking stabs him in the eye with

59:51

that EpiPen. And it was

59:53

so, I don't know what. And then he

59:55

pulls it out. Oh,

59:58

and then he's got this fucking eye. Oh, that

1:00:00

was a great like I mean yeah, yeah shocking

1:00:04

shocking And I thought I

1:00:06

felt like they wrote the epi pen first

1:00:08

and then they reverse engineered the Sun and everything

1:00:10

I went on with him. Yeah, like justify this

1:00:12

We have this guy in the eye and

1:00:14

not to mention the fact that what you would

1:00:17

be doing in that moment is giving him

1:00:19

an overwhelming dose of adrenaline

1:00:22

I thought that he was gonna be like oh,

1:00:24

it's wrong. You're like hole. Yeah. Oh, that would

1:00:26

be amazing like super shredder. Yeah Actually

1:00:29

like super then she but then

1:00:31

it then like and in in

1:00:34

very comical fashion He walks two

1:00:36

feet She hits a button and a fucking engine

1:00:38

falls in the ceiling and hits them on that

1:00:40

I watch it He's the way sorry I

1:00:42

know I was gonna say I watched the beginning of

1:00:44

it for a second this morning to be like and

1:00:47

they show that engine Thing hanging down, but there's no

1:00:49

setup for that engine thing like there's never anything to

1:00:51

yeah Make you why would you know of it an

1:00:53

engine in a in a farm? Like

1:00:56

why would you hang an engine and it was so

1:00:58

many and it was what if the engine killed your

1:01:00

daughter? Hang

1:01:02

that engine It's

1:01:05

really nice that they managed to murder him in

1:01:07

the way that he murdered his yes

1:01:09

with car parts But

1:01:14

let's keep this in mind because I'm

1:01:16

almost positive We are

1:01:19

in a barn at the end

1:01:21

of this movie at Christian Chenoweth

1:01:23

yeah, so yeah He is there

1:01:26

is there's a lot of engine

1:01:28

hanging in her barn. Yeah, it's not like

1:01:30

it's where he fixes his car That's her

1:01:33

side hobby. Yeah, so we're to presume that

1:01:35

Christian Chenoweth who I believe is a single

1:01:37

woman. Yes a vice president is Like

1:01:40

some sort of character engine hanging in

1:01:43

her barn. Yeah, she's a weekend weekend

1:01:45

farmer And not just

1:01:47

hanging hanging way Yeah,

1:01:51

there's no reason to ever get

1:01:53

the engine that high well There

1:01:55

is no nobody would ever do that unless you

1:01:57

were hoisting it to the second floor for storage

1:02:00

And it's a special part of

1:02:02

this fight happens during a gasoline

1:02:04

fire. Yes. Which they

1:02:06

are clearly safe from in a

1:02:08

circle of no fire. Obviously

1:02:12

we had an opinion about this movie, but there are people

1:02:14

out there that had a different opinion. It's

1:02:16

now time for second opinion. What

1:02:19

if they said you had cancer? What

1:02:22

if they said you had a day? What

1:02:25

if they said you had cancer

1:02:27

today? What

1:02:31

if they said you had a day? Alright,

1:02:35

these are five star reviews, cold from Amazon. How are

1:02:37

our themes coming? Are people sending in themes? Oh, we

1:02:39

have amazing themes. What we just heard right there is

1:02:41

a brand new one. Yeah, we have tons of themes.

1:02:43

Great. This is from Teddy Town.

1:02:46

Now most people will kind

1:02:48

of tell you the whole movie, but I think this

1:02:50

one was worth it. Oh my.

1:02:54

Jennifer Lopez never makes a bad

1:02:56

movie. She hits it home again

1:02:58

with this one. Going through a separation with her

1:03:00

husband, she meets her next door neighbor, who is

1:03:02

much younger. He knows she's

1:03:04

very lonely and needing a man, and

1:03:07

he kindly takes advantage of that situation.

1:03:09

They have a one night encounter, she

1:03:11

breaks it off, and then it gets

1:03:13

very, very, very ugly. That

1:03:15

leads her husband and son getting involved, and then

1:03:18

at the end the neighbor gets killed, and Jennifer

1:03:20

and her husband and son all get out of

1:03:22

the burning barn alive. It's

1:03:25

a great movie. Some sexual content is

1:03:27

in the movie. They could have left

1:03:29

that out. But I

1:03:31

do like the movie. Five

1:03:33

stars. Wait a minute. What would

1:03:35

the movie be without the sex? That's

1:03:37

the entire movie. And by the way, also

1:03:39

spoiler alert. Way big

1:03:41

giant spoiler alert. Like really, the friend

1:03:44

dies and they make it out of

1:03:46

the barn alive. And then

1:03:48

this one is, this is from Stephanie

1:03:50

E. Horn. How

1:03:52

about Stephanie Horn E. Oh,

1:03:55

bam. She writes

1:03:57

simply. The title of the review is... playing

1:04:00

with fire and writes, not

1:04:02

a good idea to cross that age gap.

1:04:05

I would, but that's me. Five

1:04:07

stars. Yeah. Because she

1:04:09

is Stephanie Horney. And

1:04:13

then, this is from Heidi Bailey,

1:04:15

who also gives it five stars. By the way, Lesson

1:04:17

not learned from the movie. No, not at all. And

1:04:20

then Stephanie Bailey gives it five stars and simply

1:04:22

writes, volume was too low. What?

1:04:26

That's a review. What? I

1:04:28

gave it five stars. Volume was too

1:04:31

low. Couldn't

1:04:33

find remote. The volume of sex scenes? I don't

1:04:35

know what's that. I think the sound. I think

1:04:37

the sound of the movie. The volume of the

1:04:39

sex scene. I'd like to see those persons other

1:04:41

reviews and maybe all of the reviews are like,

1:04:44

the sound was too low. Yeah. And

1:04:46

it turns out their TV is broken. They don't know

1:04:48

how to turn on their speakers. Or they're slowly going

1:04:50

deaf. Yeah. And don't know it. We

1:04:52

just watched the interview. Couldn't, there was no sound

1:04:55

in this movie. But the first review. Movie sounded

1:04:57

silent. Much like my husband and everything in the

1:04:59

world. June and I once stayed in this like,

1:05:01

oh go ahead. Her first review

1:05:03

is Jurassic World's couldn't figure out how

1:05:06

to turn this down. It's technically loud.

1:05:10

Too loud. One star.

1:05:13

June and I were in this kind of like, hotel

1:05:15

hostel thing when we first came out to LA. And

1:05:17

they had a DVD player and we put in that

1:05:19

movie Man, Tree, and Candidate, the remake. And

1:05:22

it was pitch black. And we'd always

1:05:24

like, you'd see figures and then it

1:05:26

was like, wow, it's a really cool

1:05:28

artistic choice. And we watched the entire

1:05:31

movie without being able to see

1:05:33

the figures. And then we realized that the

1:05:35

brightness was all the way down. So we

1:05:37

watched the movie and justified it to ourselves.

1:05:40

Like, wow, Johnson Demme is like a real

1:05:42

genius. He's making it hard to see the

1:05:44

things. It's murky because

1:05:46

this idea is a murky idea. That's

1:05:48

amazing. It was a shitty TV in

1:05:51

a shitty hotel. And we

1:05:53

gave it so much credit. I thought, it's a

1:05:55

really interesting filmmaker. I love that when you justify

1:05:57

things like that, especially because you do it to

1:05:59

someone. to make it seem like nothing's

1:06:01

wrong. Right, yeah, yeah. Like, I remember I went to

1:06:04

a concert once when I was, like, I went to

1:06:06

see the replacements when I was in ninth grade, I

1:06:08

think, with a girl that I was like just so

1:06:10

in love with but who like thought of me like

1:06:12

a brother. And there were, the

1:06:15

band kept coming on stage and I

1:06:17

kept being like, this is them. But

1:06:21

then it was not because there was like

1:06:23

four opening bands. But there was such an

1:06:25

anxiety around which band is gonna be the

1:06:27

replacements and I kept being like declaratively like,

1:06:30

this is them and we would like enjoy a couple

1:06:32

of songs. I think I know this one, I think

1:06:34

I know that one. And then it was like, none

1:06:36

of them were the replacements. And then when the replacements

1:06:39

came on, it was very obvious it was the replacement.

1:06:41

Like, they made a big deal about it. Well,

1:06:45

do we cover everything that everyone wants to talk about? Anything

1:06:47

left? I think so. All right, well, I'm trying to think.

1:06:49

Die, you piece of fucking shit. Oh my

1:06:52

God, poor Chenoweth. Yeah, Chenoweth really- Oh,

1:06:54

Chenoweth's boyfriend seemed like a real piece

1:06:56

of shit. I felt really bad for

1:06:58

Chenoweth. He needed a boy next

1:07:00

door. I thought it ended very odd. I thought

1:07:02

maybe they- Oh yeah, oh yeah. They was gonna

1:07:04

maybe let us think like there was no body

1:07:06

in the barn and like, obviously it wouldn't make

1:07:08

a sequel, but it'd be fun to have that

1:07:10

little- Well, also- A jump up moment, anything. We

1:07:12

also don't see like any aftermath. You don't see

1:07:15

like them six months later like, okay, we're all

1:07:17

together now, we lived. The movie ended like someone's

1:07:19

like, hey, I gotta go, we gotta go, we're

1:07:21

outta here. Well, everyone like that. Well, all of

1:07:23

a sudden, like, we left, and the movie's over?

1:07:25

I literally was like- There is something missing. Just

1:07:27

a shot of them happy, or a shot of

1:07:29

the barn being burned, or a helicopter shot of

1:07:31

like- A helicopter, yeah. Just a pull out, yeah.

1:07:33

Just some artistic pull out, but it's just, it

1:07:35

was like, they get out of the barn and

1:07:37

the credits start to go. And they immediately go

1:07:39

back to the flashback scene so they can show

1:07:41

you more sex scenes again. Like, you know, immediately.

1:07:43

They get that, they make their money in that

1:07:45

sex scene. What a weird trailer thing to show

1:07:47

the sex scenes again. I've never seen anything like

1:07:49

that. Well, as the director pointed out, she's

1:07:51

got an amazing body for us. Oh yeah. 44,

1:07:54

got twins, and she still goes to gym. You know, I

1:07:56

like it. Oh yeah. Heather, anything

1:07:58

we could tell the- They can follow you on

1:08:01

Twitter of course Heather and Campbell at At

1:08:03

Heather Campbell on Twitter and you can kind of

1:08:05

get to everything from there. Yeah, the Instagram and

1:08:07

all that shit I don't know. Yeah, sure.

1:08:09

You can follow me on Twitter. I have this

1:08:12

Instagram called Kylie Jenner does stuff which

1:08:14

is bleeding followers, so Anybody

1:08:17

I want to get I would like to

1:08:19

follow that so it's just Kylie Jenner just

1:08:21

doing things I try to take her selfies

1:08:23

and then make it look like she's doing

1:08:25

something either more Satisfying with her life like

1:08:27

hanging a picture of Ruth Gator Vader Ginsburg

1:08:29

on the wall or or just like something

1:08:31

garbage that she would Never do like, you

1:08:33

know making macaroni and cheese eating pork rind

1:08:35

and it's just called the Kylie Jenner does

1:08:37

Kylie Jenner does stuff I'm gonna follow

1:08:39

that immediately Oh,

1:08:42

I oh I'm in an episode

1:08:44

and June is in as well

1:08:46

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1:08:48

great show. So it's Maria Bamford

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1:08:52

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1:08:59

yeah to be single. I did Jason's great in

1:09:01

it And I

1:09:03

told him that the other night in all honesty

1:09:07

Everybody is now watching that movie on planes. It's

1:09:09

so hilarious people keep coming to me. I just saw

1:09:11

you in some movie I was like, we're gonna play

1:09:15

Yeah, I want to get on a plane and watch me

1:09:17

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