0:02

I don't. I mean, would you ever do that? I never do that.

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We don't roll like that. I mean, what do

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you need to do that fire? I mean never ever have

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even considered looking ship up

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though, I mean just in general, it's

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just not something I do. No

0:20

fact check it do

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that, ain't no

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0:29

fact check it. I don't want to know where you a

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little bit a little fain no

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we just we just proved it. That's the a no

0:58

fact checking theme song. Uh.

1:00

This is the Iron Rapports Stereo podcast.

1:02

This is in Michael Rappaport. And sometimes

1:04

I am just fucking ready

1:06

to pod out, And this

1:09

is one of those times. Um, I'm

1:11

getting ready to interview Little

1:13

Dickey, who is a

1:15

rapper who I like, who's

1:18

got a great story and

1:21

some great music. A new album out came

1:23

out last year two

1:26

thousand and fifteen. But I like his whole story,

1:28

his whole perseverance, and I'm

1:30

gonna interview him and pick his brain and

1:32

find out what what he's

1:34

about. Um,

1:38

the Oscar nominations were

1:41

given, and of course there's

1:43

the Oscar snubs, which

1:46

I think is a bunch of bullshit. And

1:48

I think that the whole Oscar And then they're like saying,

1:50

there it wasn't enough black

1:53

actors and nominations and

1:55

and and here's the fucking deal, man, there's

1:59

not a there's not a quota that

2:01

needs to be met on black actors,

2:04

black actresses, black directors. UM.

2:07

Some of the uh, the the the concerns

2:10

and the problem. That's just the way

2:12

it is. There's that I know, like, well,

2:14

what do you mean? That's just the way it is. There's not a quota.

2:16

They don't have to nominate a certain amount of Jewish

2:18

actors, they don't have to nominate a certain amount of Latino

2:21

actors, and they don't have to nominate a certain amount

2:23

of black actors. That's just not

2:25

part of the fucking uh the Academy Award

2:28

rule book. Now. I get it, the

2:30

you know, blah blah blah blah blah and all the fucking

2:32

regular ship. But as far as making you

2:35

know, some of the snubs that they're talking about a straight out

2:37

of Compton. Now, I love Straight out of Compton.

2:40

I love the film. I thought it was very

2:42

It's not an Oscar film.

2:45

It's it's a great film. It's not the

2:47

best picture of the year. UM. To some

2:49

people, it maybe, and I get

2:51

that too, But as far as when it comes to Oscars,

2:54

it's not. UM. I think that the

2:57

the the film was is is very good,

2:59

very all directed, very very

3:01

well acted. I think the kid I can't remember his name

3:04

who played Easy could

3:06

have possibly, possibly possibly

3:09

got nominated for Best Supporting Actor.

3:11

But now that all the films and all the performances

3:13

are in, I don't think he deserved it. So I don't

3:15

consider it as snub. I don't

3:18

consider it a snub. I don't consider

3:20

it. It's something where it should be like Oscars are so white

3:22

and these hashtags and everybody's got their fucking hashtags.

3:25

Um Idris elbow Um

3:29

in Beasts of No Nation, I

3:31

would possibly say

3:33

that's a quote unquote snub. He

3:36

I think there's he should have there should have been more

3:38

consideration to possibly UM

3:41

nominate him for Best Actor

3:43

in the film and Beast of No Nation, Idris

3:45

elbaw killed the performance.

3:47

Great film, very very very

3:50

very well directed. I can't remember the guy's

3:52

name, but it's the director who created

3:54

and directed fun is the name

3:56

of the show on HBOD True

3:59

Detective and and if

4:01

anything, they should be complaining about him not getting

4:04

nominated as well. But I'll tell you

4:06

the reason why they didn't nominate anything

4:08

for Beasts of No Nation, I'll tell you straight up,

4:11

is because it was made UM

4:14

and aired on Netflix. And

4:16

and I don't think UM that the Academy

4:19

good, wrong or in different UM

4:22

looked at it like a film. I think

4:24

they would look at it like, you know, a made for cable

4:26

film, right or wrong. I know it

4:28

was released in theaters and you know it

4:30

went through all the protocol, but if you're just released

4:33

in theaters just to get nominations, you

4:35

might not get them. And then it was put out, you

4:37

know, on on Netflix. So I

4:40

would say, Idris elba strong

4:42

argument UM for for not being

4:44

UM nominated had nothing

4:47

to do with fucking race. I think it had more had to

4:49

do with the way that film was put out. It was it was

4:51

financed by Netflix and put out on Netflix.

4:53

The director of that Beasts of No Nation

4:56

certainly should have been in the category the

4:59

conversation of being nominated. Um,

5:01

Will Smith, Yo, Uh,

5:03

I love Will Smith, big fan. I called it.

5:06

You will not get the nomination just for

5:08

doing the accent. It

5:11

doesn't mean you'll get nominated. Tell

5:14

the truth, Tell the

5:16

truth. If anybody should get nominated, I

5:18

would have gone with Idris over Will Smith.

5:21

If you want to talk about, uh,

5:23

black actors not getting nominated, Um,

5:26

I think the film it wasn't well reviewed.

5:29

Um. There was a question about the accuracy

5:31

of the film Concussion. Um, and

5:33

I think that, uh, you know, as

5:36

far as accuracy that the real dude who

5:38

Will Smith played was a dark

5:40

skinned brother and Will Smith is not dark

5:42

skin brother. So right there, you could say the accuracy

5:44

it's a joke. Um.

5:47

Michael B. Jordan's excellent in Creed

5:49

not Academy Award nominatable performance.

5:53

The director Ryan Coogler. I hope I

5:55

saying his name right because I want to work with you. I'm

5:57

a big fan and you're a badass

5:59

motherfucker of the director of Creed. Uh

6:01

not an Academy Award film.

6:04

Um, you know

6:06

you can't argue about race with that. I would

6:08

say, Uh,

6:10

the my the

6:12

people that got really shifted on the most

6:15

is Quentin Tarantino, Samuel

6:17

Jackson, and Walt Coggins

6:19

from Hate Philate. Walton Coggins,

6:22

who I worked with Unjustified, who played Boyd

6:24

and who slam danced it

6:27

in Hate Philate, he should have definitely

6:30

gotten nominated. Now, who is

6:32

the lead actor of Hate Philate? It's an

6:34

ensemble cast. I think screen

6:36

time probably the person who's

6:38

on screen the most. I don't

6:40

know, but I bet it was Walton or Sam

6:43

Jackson. So I think

6:45

that Walton and Sam Jackson

6:47

from Hate Flate kind of canceled each other out. Sam

6:49

Jackson is getting to the point where he's so good

6:53

and in every film that he could be nominated for

6:55

everything, So I think he's getting sort of taken

6:57

for granted, Walt Walt Coggins

7:00

should have got nominated as well. So

7:02

you talk about snubs, and that's a black guy and

7:04

a white guy. So I think this whole

7:06

snub thing and the the the race

7:09

behind the snub thing, I

7:11

think I think we're looking into it and

7:13

and and there's there's bigger fish to fry

7:15

um In regards to that, I think that

7:18

they tell what Amy Schumer definitely not

7:20

an Academy Award. Uh

7:22

performance motherfucking Star

7:24

Wars is never gonna get really looked

7:26

upon as as an Academy Award film

7:28

as far as acting and and direction.

7:31

It's just just not looked upon it that way.

7:33

UM and and um, you know obviously

7:35

special effects and and all the set

7:38

design and all that sort of thing. Um,

7:40

but that's my whole thing. They shooted on. Really

7:43

Scott for the Martian, I think he should have gotten nominated.

7:46

Um, And I don't know, I

7:48

don't know. I I think that the Oscars are

7:50

fantastic. I think any anyone

7:53

will admit that they would love to be nominated and

7:55

and love to win one. I'm glad Sevester

7:57

Sloan very very very totally

8:00

warranted to win um uh

8:03

to get nominated, and I think he's gonna win Best Supporting

8:06

Actor. And that's my my deal about the Oscars.

8:08

I don't think this race thing. Every year there's

8:10

not enough black people nominated. Every year, there's not

8:12

enough Puerto Ricans nominated. If

8:15

yo, if your performance is really dope, you're

8:17

gonna get nominated. I think the only

8:19

sort of real thing, and it has less to

8:21

do um with race, and has more

8:24

to do with how the film was presented his

8:26

Adris Elba and Beasts of No

8:28

Nation, and he's the lead actor, but he's not

8:30

even the star of the film, so I think he

8:33

might even been supporting actor. However

8:35

that works out. So that's that. That's all

8:37

I'm gonna say about about the the acting

8:41

and the Academy Awards. I hope Leonardo DiCaprio

8:43

wins, hope Stallone wins. Um.

8:46

I honestly, as much as I love what's

8:48

her name, Rachel McAdams, I don't think she deserved

8:50

Best Supporting Actress for

8:53

um uh funk

8:55

is the name of the movie. Damn it the

8:57

movie with Leev Schreiber and Mark Rufflo. It

8:59

just I don't fact check. I'm not fact checking,

9:01

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10:16

we're starting the you Talking

10:18

to Me segment. You send me questions,

10:21

you send me emails, you send me tweets, Time

10:23

Rapport dot com or Michael

10:26

rapp Report on Twitter, um

10:28

or Michael Rapport on Facebook. You asked me civilized

10:30

questions in a civilized way, and I

10:33

will answer them some of the questions

10:35

that I've gotten asked. This is not an official

10:37

You're talking to me, It's an unofficial

10:40

sort of preview of the you talking to me

10:42

segment. Um uh,

10:45

but uh, you know, uh, I'm gonna

10:47

give you some of the examples of some of the questions. All Right, this

10:49

guy, Jade Slicks at

10:51

Jade Slicks j underscored J four

10:54

four, huge, huge fan, blah

10:56

blah blah. My question is I'm twenty four year old white

10:58

kid from North North Dakota. Originally

11:00

I've been writing lyrics for six years, but

11:03

now I doubted uh that I'll be accepted

11:06

in the hip hop community. I'm a fan of true

11:08

hip hop and not the ship today. As

11:10

a true hip hop fan, I know I can write my ass

11:12

up, but would I be taken seriously given where

11:14

I'm from and me being white? Now, first of all,

11:17

you gotta defeatist attitude, Jade

11:19

Slicks, you can't. You can't think

11:21

that way. Okay, you can't think that way. You

11:23

gotta do your thing. As far as the white rapper,

11:25

of course, that's always gonna be going against you. But

11:28

if you're nice, you're nice. Look at

11:30

Action Bronson, look at Um

11:32

mac Miller, look at the Beastie Boys,

11:35

and of course look at M and M. So

11:37

so the the I'm a white rapper thing. You

11:39

know, you gotta you gotta go harder. But

11:42

I think that we're past it. If you've got skills, you've

11:44

got skills. I don't think it matters where

11:46

you're from. Also, North Dakota.

11:49

You know, no one would have ever thought that

11:51

Thuggers shruggish bone would have been put on. Now you've

11:53

got Ja Cole, he's from down

11:56

south. Hip hop is universal.

11:58

So to answer your question, I think if you if

12:00

you come correct, don't you you

12:03

just you can't dip your toe in the water. You

12:05

gotta be all in uh

12:08

or all out. Okay, So that's

12:10

the answer your question. I wish you'd luck and my suggestion

12:12

is do your thing. All right, here's a question,

12:15

Adam Scott. Adam Scott

12:17

one, here's a few

12:19

questions for me. Says, would you say television is

12:21

in better state than the movies today?

12:24

Who's your favorite British actor? And

12:26

what's your favorite current television

12:29

series? All right, those are good questions, Adam I like those

12:31

this is that you talking to me segment

12:34

of the Iron Wrap por podcast. Um.

12:37

Yes, I think that television is in a better state

12:39

than the movies creatively. Um.

12:41

You have shows like Transparent,

12:44

you have shows like the new Scorsese show,

12:47

The Vinyl. Of course, you have the

12:49

classic shows in the new generation

12:51

of television, the Sopranos, six

12:53

ft under Um,

12:55

Madmen, Uh, you know, Breaking

12:57

Bad, whatever, you're into girls, you

13:00

know, Um, they're They're

13:02

all I'm not I'm not even naming half

13:04

of them. So I think in general, television,

13:08

UM, if you, if you line up the great television

13:10

stuff, and that's that's the reason why. Um

13:13

uh, so many, so many well respected,

13:15

great actors are doing television shows. I think it gives

13:17

you more creative freedom. I think that the jobs

13:19

are are far and few between for good

13:21

stuff and films. There's only a

13:23

few uh movie

13:26

stars, but there's a lot of television stars.

13:28

That has something to do with it. Sort of um,

13:31

a dirty secret in Hollywood. You know, people

13:33

want to say it's all creative, but at the end of the day,

13:36

great actors, no matter how

13:38

are rich or successful. They want to continue

13:40

making a living. But I think in general yes

13:42

to answer your question. TV is in a better state

13:44

than movies. Another way to

13:46

to ask me questions is on Truly, the Truly app,

13:49

which I have no financial staking, but I love Truly.

13:51

I love the Truly app. Great conversation

13:53

starter. You could get it on iPhones. It's not

13:56

available on everything, but it's definitely available on

13:58

iPhones and iOS nine

14:00

Truly t r u E. Why

14:04

I love this for the podcast because when

14:06

we run out of topics or things to say,

14:08

or if Gmonetti, uh drink

14:10

a little bit too much of that that good rum

14:13

or we just you know, it's just a good way to start

14:15

conversations. UM. And you could

14:17

go on Truly and you ask questions.

14:20

It asked you questions and you answer yes or

14:22

no, or you agree or disagree. So, for

14:24

instance, the question right here that I'm

14:27

opening up the Truly app right now is

14:29

I think Donald Trump would be a great president.

14:31

I think that Donald Trump would be an

14:33

interesting president. I don't think you would be great.

14:36

I don't think someone. It's like saying,

14:38

would you do you think Donald Trump would be a great

14:40

train engineer? He's never ran a train. Do

14:42

you want to be on the train that Donald Trump? Is

14:45

driving. I don't, so I want a guide with a

14:47

little bit more political experience. Question

14:50

is it wrong to take drugs? Uh? That

14:52

depends agree. Seventy of

14:55

the people disagree. Uh so is it

14:57

wrong to take drugs? That's kind of vague. You gotta be a little

14:59

bit more specific with your questions on Truy,

15:01

But in general, I think, listen, if

15:03

you're responsible and you're not a fucking animal, and

15:06

go crazy on that k too, like

15:08

Chandler Jones of the New England Patriots.

15:10

Probably uh, probably, Yeah, It's okay

15:12

to dip in, dab in a little something, but I'm not

15:14

into the synthetics. I'm not into popping

15:17

pills, and I don't funk with needles. Okay.

15:19

Uh, next question on Truy the true re

15:21

app I don't like coffee. I

15:23

don't agree. I don't agree. S

15:26

of the people disagree. Of

15:28

the people disagree, do agree. I

15:31

didn't start drinking coffee until about five or six

15:33

years ago. We literally never had it in my life. Now

15:35

I'm addicted now. I don't know if it's uh

15:37

the Starbucks that I'm into or but I like the coffee

15:40

flavor. I don't like coffee breath. If

15:42

you have coffee breath, don't speak to me. Um,

15:44

I will give you a piece of gum and tell you about

15:46

it. Um. But this is why I like the True Reapp.

15:48

It's I could do a whole episode

15:51

of the Iron rapp por podcast fucking

15:54

around with the True re app t r U e

15:56

y. Here's another question. You don't need a degree

15:58

to be successful. To really agree,

16:02

the people agree, of the people disagree.

16:05

UM, I agree, But you know,

16:07

different strokes for different folks. And there's no playbook

16:10

on being successful in life. And if

16:12

you're a young person you don't know what to do with yourself, why

16:14

don't you take a class at a college and uh,

16:17

you know, maybe just do exactly what you want

16:19

to do in college. Try to do it that way. Go slow.

16:22

You don't have to graduate in four years. Take your time.

16:24

That's my little advice. Have you ever intended

16:27

a w NBA basketball game? Yes?

16:30

Of the people have said yes. Of

16:32

the people say no. I understand why most

16:34

people would not like to go to an NBA a

16:37

w NBA basketball game, but I have been to

16:39

a game. UM. I don't have to give my whole

16:41

explanation on true I just have to answer the question.

16:44

All right, I've skipped school to

16:46

have sex when I was in my

16:48

school days. Yes, I did skip

16:50

school to have sex. And fifty percent

16:52

of the people agree. Of the people

16:55

do not agree. Um,

16:57

all right, and this is the final question I'm gonna ask

16:59

on my truly uh app a

17:01

segment of the of the week. I picked my nose

17:04

when no one is looking. Of

17:06

the people agree, of the

17:08

people disagree. Now, if

17:11

I was answering this question, I not

17:13

only picked my nose when no one's looking. I

17:15

picked my nose when people are looking. I

17:17

picked my nose when I'm talking to people. I

17:20

picked my nose when I'm listening to other people talk

17:22

to me. I see no problem in picking

17:24

my nose around people that I love, and then I feel

17:26

comfortable with Now. Uh, if

17:29

I don't know you, I'm most likely I'm not gonna pick

17:31

my nose. But anybody that knows me, well,

17:33

we'll we'll tell you that I'm a nose

17:36

picking motherfucker. And that's

17:38

just the way I am. And I'm not saying that's right or wrong. I'm

17:40

just trying to be as honest as I possibly

17:42

can with my answers to the truly segment

17:44

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the NFL playoffs are amongst amongst

18:18

my my, my, my sights. I cannot wait

18:22

for the for the games this weekend. And uh,

18:25

once again, once again,

18:27

those rotten, dirty Patriots are

18:30

all tied up into it. Now. I

18:32

know that there's a lot of fans of the Iron rap Corps

18:34

podcast that are Patriots fans. Stay

18:37

with me. Just the other day, my

18:39

friend and and and and and someone

18:41

who I admire um and respect

18:43

a lot, Bill Burr. I I texted him, I

18:46

will I will post that. I will post the

18:48

text if you don't believe me, I texted

18:50

my man Bill Burr, and I said,

18:52

Bill Burr, I want the

18:55

Patriots to win the game this week and versus the Chiefs.

18:57

He was confused. I could feel it in his text

19:00

back. Why do you want them to win? Why

19:02

are you saying this? I said, because I like them.

19:04

I like the Patriots. I want to see them win. I want to see

19:06

Seattle versus the Patriots. He was I

19:08

could feel it. He was so confused

19:11

and so perplexed by why I would

19:13

say this to him. And then boom

19:16

the next day, yet

19:18

another crazy controversy

19:21

by one of the Patriots and the Patriots

19:23

way fucking defensive lineman

19:26

Chandler Jones, whose brother is John Jones,

19:28

the UFC fighter. And then

19:30

then there's another Jones from from the

19:32

Them Jones Boys who plays

19:34

professional football. Cameram his name right now?

19:37

Not fact check at all. I am freestyling

19:39

this entire episode. Alright, this is

19:41

a solo episode. But Chandler Jones

19:44

was on that Flocca that

19:46

K two and and he

19:48

he brought himself to a police station.

19:51

This is this is during his off week of a football

19:53

or football season, brought himself to the

19:55

police station. He was all banged out of his mind.

19:57

I don't know if Flocka is that K two or

20:00

K two is that flocca or they're two

20:02

totally different drugs, synthetic drugs.

20:04

But you need to stop working with that K two. Kids,

20:07

Go get yourself some wine. Go

20:10

to Club W and order yourself some

20:12

wine. Okay, if you're if you're over, if

20:14

you're of drinking eight. Because these synthetic

20:16

drugs, they're making people nuts.

20:18

This is a highly trained

20:21

physical specimen. You've ever seen. Chandler

20:24

Jones. He's a fucking beast,

20:26

and that K two literally

20:29

literally brought him to his knees,

20:31

brought him to a police station. Now you

20:33

know, if you're a professional football football

20:36

player for the New England Patriots, the last

20:38

thing you want to be doing is

20:41

be so whacked out of your tree, so

20:43

banged out of your fucking mind that

20:46

you have to go to a police station. They

20:48

all know that it's Chandler Jones. He's

20:51

a football star, he's an All star, plays

20:53

for the New England Patriots. You think that Chandler

20:55

Jones is he for him

20:57

to be so scared and banged out of his

20:59

mind to have to go to a police

21:01

station. He's praying, he's saying all these

21:03

religious things and he basically was saying,

21:06

they said the police. Police were saying he was looking

21:08

for help. He was distraught and looking for help.

21:11

Now you know, if you're a

21:13

famous person in your own

21:15

town of New England or Boston.

21:17

I don't even know if there's a difference. The last

21:20

place that this guy wanted, how bad

21:22

and how fucked up was Chandler Jones

21:24

to have to do that. He was in such

21:26

bad shape that he had to do that the Patriot

21:29

way once again. Now it's going to create

21:31

controversy. Now now

21:33

we have to start evaluating the talent. Okay,

21:36

we have to start evaluating who's doing the psych

21:38

exams. We we know that Aaron

21:41

Hernandez. Of course, we beat

21:43

the Tom Brady thing to a pulp there.

21:45

There's been so many infractions by Patriots

21:48

players. At some point, somebody's

21:50

got to lose their job. Who's giving the psych

21:53

exams over there? Why is Chandler

21:55

Jones on that UI or

21:58

that k too, that synthetic

22:01

during his off week during the NFL

22:03

season? Why why

22:05

I don't get it? Okay,

22:08

and I just the other day went public with my man

22:10

Burne. I said, I want the Patriots doing but

22:12

these guys are a bunch of creeps over there. Tom

22:16

Bill Belichick showed up to the press conference the other

22:18

day with a black guy. I don't know if he owed somebody

22:20

thirty five bucks or something like that, but somebody

22:22

punched him in his fucking face or something. How

22:25

does Bill Belichick show up to the press conference

22:27

with a black eye and like he acts

22:29

like nothing happened. Did Chandler Jones give

22:31

him this black eye and his k to uh

22:33

string out? I don't know what's

22:36

going on in Patriots Country,

22:38

but once again, come playoff

22:40

time, it's not the deflated balls. It's

22:42

it's it's Chandler Jones on that

22:45

that that flock of Flocca, that waka floca

22:48

that oh we that

22:50

patriot way, that

22:52

nice patriot white had

22:56

his balls all deflated, all

22:58

fucked up. Why we're

23:00

gonna get more into this. This story is gonna have

23:03

legs, So I'm not gonna beat it with

23:05

a dead horse, but I'm gonna tell you that this the Iron

23:07

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23:12

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23:14

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23:16

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23:28

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23:30

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23:41

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23:43

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25:12

this guy I'm very interested in and I sought him

25:14

out. I read his story. I

25:16

know it's pedigree, and we're getting ready to

25:18

get into a little dickie. All

25:22

right, this is the I

25:24

Am Wrappport podcast, coming

25:27

live and direct from the gloom

25:29

Tomb in Los Angeles, actually the gloom

25:31

tom living room. It's not that gloomy in here. It's

25:33

not that gloomy. It's pretty pretty regular in here.

25:35

But we don't don't suck up my my image.

25:37

O. Um, I'm in here with little

25:41

Dickeye Dave, sir.

25:43

What's your last name? Bird? B u r

25:46

d okay bu r

25:48

d but pronounced bird like Larry

25:51

right, or like robin or

25:54

um uh sparrow sparrow

25:57

or um humming. Alright,

26:01

so, little Dickie, so I'm gonna

26:03

call your name is Dave. Your real name is Dave. At times

26:05

if I call you a little dickie because it

26:07

because I mean, how could you not little Dickie?

26:09

I mean, I'm sure is it gotten to be like funk?

26:13

All right? Maybe I shouldn't have went with a little dickie like you

26:15

gotta pay you literally had to pay

26:17

the costs to be the boss with that. Yeah. To

26:19

some extent, I have trouble introducing myself. It's like, oh, hey,

26:21

it's a little Dickie. Hey, I'm a little Dickie. I don't

26:23

regret the decision. I think it's sticks like I think it's a

26:25

good rap man. But you know what I'm saying, totally

26:28

and yeah for sure. All right, So I'm gonna just tell

26:30

you how I discovered you. I discovered you a

26:32

couple of months ago. Right when I reached out

26:35

to you. I was probably a little bit behind the times because

26:37

you know, I'm I'm how old are you?

26:40

I'm forty five, and I don't know how much you know about

26:42

me, but I'm definitely I would I wouldn't

26:44

say I'm a hip hop snob,

26:47

but I'm definitely kind of stuck in my ways. I'm

26:49

judgmental, I'm a hip I'm a judgmental

26:52

hip hop ahead. So

26:55

I don't know how the funk I found your video, but

26:57

I found the video I was. I was in the

26:59

bed with my girl and I was like, yo, laughing.

27:02

She was like, what is this show? I said, Yo, check this ship? I

27:04

was and it was huh

27:06

saved that money video? Go

27:10

laver. We're

27:12

going b

27:16

You don't ain't trying bloater Money

27:27

was saying, can't got it all wrong.

27:30

We ain't about to goss spare money just to flex

27:32

on the We really gotta lie yer. I'm

27:35

a type of motherfucking dad I'll check the check, do

27:37

the manfine never getting right because

27:39

markel read is not going on my car. I

27:42

ain't about to split the damn thing for convenience.

27:44

Say come at the restaurant working that way.

27:46

Try. You ain't heard a little day you held

27:48

the Jude is major, you know by

27:50

the word he raised up. I've been saving money since

27:53

a motherfucker thirteen. I wearing the same

27:55

pair of Jean's every day. We sad with

27:57

just hungry to SAMs away flight

27:59

this, but but I leave in the trucks

28:01

out to net rate but still the same. I get

28:04

notet for Netflix for my consin

28:07

and I just was like, what the fund is it? Um?

28:11

What's going on here? For sure? Is that

28:13

is that the video? Is that the thing that sort of

28:16

mainstreamed it? Yeah, that kind of took it

28:18

to the next one. Yeah, but so so tell me how

28:21

that video happened and and is

28:23

it really all like you showed up on because

28:25

the way it looked, I was like, this

28:27

is like these are the two things that stuck out to

28:29

me is that you were showing up on people's sets

28:31

when other people were filming videos.

28:34

And then the coffee table

28:36

rhyme when you're when you're ordering

28:38

the coffee, and I was like, Yo, this ship, this

28:41

dude, that verse, that coffee

28:43

table verse. Because I'm such a snob

28:45

about what I listened. I was like, Yo, my man is really

28:47

flowing and this ship is funny and you were going

28:50

on for so long like that versus like, I

28:52

don't you know, I don't know how many of the charge for coffee

28:54

if I'm like that ship is crazy his

28:57

coffee and filling that with all

29:00

aboard the caution when you get you can

29:02

see double charging for the call free years. You told

29:04

him there's the polls through the long largement. So

29:06

I mean, I was like, Yo, this ship is funny. I

29:08

like this and I just like to send to humor

29:11

about it. But also I thought it was an

29:13

interesting thing to have a sense of humor about

29:15

it, but also skills. Yeah, that

29:17

was kind of my whole angle going into it, was you've

29:19

seen guys that are funny and not necessarily

29:22

the most skilled and rapped. You've seen guys that are

29:24

really skilled and not like the funniest. I

29:26

just thought there was like a really interesting place

29:28

that no one's really played in, you know what I

29:31

mean? And I to me was quite

29:33

frank. I started rapping because I wanted to be a comedian,

29:36

and like, fortunately for me, I chose

29:38

rap, and like learned that I was a good rapper.

29:41

Like it was not I could have gone through life. I

29:43

had no idea that this was possible, right, and it

29:45

worst like a sport, the more you do it, the better you get.

29:48

And uh, I just found out through

29:50

the process that I meant to be a rapper as well. Hopefully

29:52

I still can be a comedian. But like it's bizarre,

29:55

like I could have never known and and and okay,

29:57

so how did that particular video

30:00

get me? So it's really like

30:02

what you're what you're seeing is real. So the song, it

30:04

all starts with the song and the songs obviously, and I

30:06

knew that this song, of all the songs I've ever made,

30:08

was like the most radio friendly. It had the biggest features,

30:11

and I knew it was like my moment, so I needed

30:13

to I had videos before this that were pretty viral,

30:15

but I need it wasn't mainstream America. It

30:17

was like, you know, a niche following, and I knew that

30:19

this was my song to hit me in the mainstream,

30:21

so I needed to do something a little bit over the

30:24

top for the video. So I wanted to

30:26

take like a unique approach rather than just making like a

30:28

traditional video, and I wanted it to have to

30:30

do with saving money. So

30:32

it all kind of just fell pretty logically into

30:34

our life. Like you know, my the guy who directs a lot

30:36

of these, his name is Tony as Senda. We

30:39

were talking about the the irony of like making

30:41

the most ball or rap video, but like while

30:43

I'm just rapping about saving money and

30:45

that felt very expected. And then he was like, well,

30:47

what if we did it without having to pay anything? And

30:50

then I didn't think it was possible because

30:53

you know, I just you know, I guess I'm

30:55

cynical and I didn't have faith in humanity to that extent,

30:57

and boy was I wrong. So

30:59

you just so so tell the people if you

31:01

haven't seen the video, who makes

31:04

features on the song and then whose

31:06

video shoots you basically stole footage

31:09

from not stove, it's found footage, stole footage.

31:11

I mean you showed up obviously they at a certain

31:13

point you told him like, yo, this is what we're doing. Yeah.

31:15

So the song features Fetti Weap and Retell

31:17

me Kwan and what I did was so I you

31:19

know, we thought about what are the elements

31:22

to like an epic rap video, and it's like mansions,

31:24

cars, boats, fat asses,

31:27

girls. It's gotta be fat ass for sure. So

31:30

our plan was to go like door to door, like

31:32

at houses, and like, you know, see if we can get into a mansion,

31:34

same deal with a boat, same deal with a Lamborghini.

31:37

Like, as we were doing this stuff, the thing you're

31:39

referencing is there was a music video shoot by

31:41

T Payne And this wasn't even an idea

31:43

we had. We just simply were shoot.

31:45

Like it was day one of Save that Money video shoot

31:48

when I'm like going around door to door and T. Paine

31:50

texted me asking if I would come to his video

31:52

shoot just to do a cameo in his ship

31:55

and his ship yeah, And then I

31:57

thought, well, what an interesting opportunity

31:59

this is because I've got on my hammer people here and like what, I'm

32:01

sure he's got cars there, I'm sure he's got girls there. It

32:03

would be so epic to use his stuff

32:06

as a part of the thing. And the whole thing was shot very

32:08

documentary style, so like I knew that, you

32:10

know, so we went I explained the idea

32:13

to him pretty delicately, because you know, te Pain has a big

32:15

deal to me, it is like a legend, and he thought it

32:17

was the funniest thing I earned. He allowed it and it

32:19

worked out great, and like every like, you

32:21

know, I got rejected from houses.

32:23

Let's say, but did you really I was gonna say how

32:25

many houses did you go? And think it was probably fifty. When

32:28

you were like, yo, can we shoot in your house and get the funk

32:30

out of here? It was less get the funk out of

32:32

here than you'd expect. It was let's just say,

32:34

get the funk out of here just because it sounds bad. Like

32:37

you, it was get the funk

32:39

out of here, pussy,

32:41

I'll call the fucking cops on you. Was

32:43

all that kind of thing is dangerous, fucking leave

32:45

the premises of the dogs

32:48

for sure. Guns guns.

32:52

And then finally, because at the end of the video

32:54

that you kind of showed the outtakes so that one lady

32:56

was just like she just let you in, yeah, and

32:58

were you like what the fund? Well?

33:00

I didn't want to be like you know,

33:03

when we were finished, I walked out and

33:05

then she and I was like, what the funk? But like that whole time,

33:07

I was playing it super cool because this was like, you know, this

33:09

was We've been rejected for the entire day,

33:12

and I know that we're shooting all this stuff,

33:14

and just in theory, the premise of an old woman

33:16

being the one that allows it is just that much more compelling. So

33:18

it's like this is perfect. So I was pretty

33:20

like trying to play it as cool as I could while I was there,

33:22

And when I left, I was like, I can't believe that this has happened. I

33:25

mean everything in the video I couldn't believe it happened. Tea Payman

33:27

couldn't believe it happened. The cars I got

33:29

rejected, I had no shot, but I walked into

33:31

a Lamborghini dealer and the fucking guy is

33:33

a little Dickie fan, which is like the shocking to me. The

33:35

hardest thing to do was actually the club, which you would

33:37

think would be the easiest for a rapper to pull off, but it was

33:40

by far the hart. They let them let you into the club

33:42

to shoot, and all that ship and

33:44

and and so what has been like the

33:46

uh, all right, so let's go to like to again.

33:48

So how did you get started? And like you

33:51

know, sort of make a mark in hip hop,

33:53

like like what's been your sort of like your

33:55

your trajectory, like what's been like your path

33:57

to get to where you do? Because like your we did

34:00

now like you respected you,

34:02

you you carved out your your own niche. You

34:04

know. I I read somewhere. I don't know if it was you saying

34:06

this or someone to like the Corta kind of compared you,

34:08

like to the Larry David of hip hop, Larry David

34:11

of rap, because it's definitely you don't take yourself seriously

34:14

and and um like so so just explain

34:16

to the people like how you got started? Explained to me because

34:18

I don't know that much. Yeah, So, like I said,

34:20

you know, growing up, I always felt are

34:23

you from Philly? And uh, people

34:25

seem to laugh at my jokes? And

34:28

I always knew that I was going to make

34:30

some sort of attempt at like doing something

34:33

professionally where I'm using my sense of

34:35

humor as my job, you know what I mean? And

34:37

so I graduated, I still you know, I don't I'd

34:40

never like was in theater or anything. And I just didn't

34:42

really I couldn't tell my parents, like I'm not gonna go to college,

34:44

you know what I mean. So, like I went to college, graduated

34:46

college, got to I had to get a job out of college too.

34:49

I worked in an ad agency, which to me was

34:51

like in Philly, No, in San Francisco

34:53

and what college University of Richmond in Virginia.

34:57

Um, So I got good grades, graduated,

34:59

got like a really good GENI not wrapping at this point

35:01

at all, not even fucking around,

35:03

sucking around always like as a human being, but like

35:06

no, like really not like sitting down and writing stuff.

35:08

Yeah yeah, um

35:10

and advertising

35:12

from like a corporate America standpoint is like one of

35:14

the best realms where you can actually use

35:16

your creativity, you know what I mean. But it still is that

35:18

living your dream certainly not. So

35:21

I thought about ways to get

35:23

noticed by people like you, like for being funny, you

35:25

know what I mean. And I thought, you know, you see

35:27

Lonely Island and their mega

35:30

things, right, and I

35:32

didn't, Like, I knew that I could wrap better than that, and

35:34

I believe that I could be as funny as that. So I

35:36

just thought that there was a big

35:38

that was and you know, at my ad agency

35:41

actually ironically, so I've always wrapped

35:43

casually, right, so like one of the things I had to do. I

35:45

worked in the Derrito's account and I had to

35:47

give her like a report every three months on like the

35:49

chip sales and how our ads were impacting sales.

35:51

And it was like a word document, painfully boring. Nobody

35:53

cared, and it went to like the top people

35:56

at the company, and I was like the low like man.

35:58

It was like the twenty two year old that nobody even you know, the bitch.

36:01

And I knew that this was my one chance to get

36:03

noticed by like the you know partners.

36:06

So instead of doing a word document one time, I just made

36:08

a rap song about the chip sales, and

36:10

like the whole agency loved it, and like actually

36:12

just from that alone, got my

36:15

job switched to the creative department. And then like

36:17

I started like one, I had this assignment where

36:19

I was supposed to make a rap video for this client

36:21

who was leaving, and we made it in a day at

36:23

my agency, and it was so easy to make and

36:25

like it looked like you know when you grew up. When I grew up,

36:28

I'm seeing these million dollar puff Daddy videos

36:30

and thinking that like this is you can't possibly

36:32

do something like this. But when I worked at this agency. In

36:35

a day, we made these like really legitimate looking

36:37

rap videos, and I thought, wait a minute, like the technologies

36:39

here right now where you can do this all yourself. So that's

36:41

probably what inspired me to choose rap as

36:43

a means to break into comedy. And

36:45

then you know, I took it two years, a

36:47

year and a half or whatever and just kept

36:49

making music that you know, the

36:51

first eight months sucked, but

36:54

then it just like there was I don't there was no real moment,

36:56

just like a slow evolution where things just got better and better.

36:58

You immediate as a rapper, understanding

37:01

how to make a song and all that. Yeah, you know, I have no

37:03

musical background, like I'm not like a music guy. Like,

37:05

like I said, this is a very happy accident. And

37:08

the first day I put anything online, So

37:11

you know, I finally am at the point like all my friends

37:13

are thinking that I'm insane. You're like, where is Dave gone? He's

37:15

been rapping for a year and a half, Like I haven't seen

37:17

him, Like I don't know where this is coming from. My girlfriend

37:19

thinks I'm crazy. My parents are begging me not to put this stuff.

37:21

And you come from your Jewish I'm Jewish,

37:24

So so you got to Jewish parents to

37:26

like, you know, my mom's a therapist, so like they're like really

37:28

like real, like you know, like

37:31

a Jew like like a Jew plus like

37:34

a Jewish therapist. It's like you you get like

37:36

one and a half year, you get more extra credit.

37:39

And so you're you and your parents

37:41

were together, so you got to Jewish

37:44

parents that that didn't get divorced, which is also

37:46

like extra credit again for sure, because

37:48

I wonder with the divorce raids amongst Jewish

37:51

it's better than the rest of the No, I

37:53

feel like it's it's worse. I think it's probably worse.

37:55

Well, actually, no, the they'll they'll they'll hammer

37:57

it through out of guilt and regret

38:00

at and they'll

38:02

just fucking hammer through it. Um So,

38:04

but I guess I'm just you know, I don't know, I don't I

38:07

don't know what the ratio weighs on that. I want to presentage

38:09

of Jew on jew marriages that

38:11

are working and failing in this country. So

38:14

so your parents are like, what the funk are you doing? Yeah,

38:16

Like I was in Hawaii with my parents and my girlfriend at the time,

38:18

and there was a borderline intervention. They were like, we

38:20

just want to be on record saying we don't think you should

38:22

be doing this because this stuff is pretty racy. And it's

38:25

like, you know, if it doesn't go well, then

38:27

there's the internets forever. What about how are

38:29

you gonna get other jobs? My girlfriends like what about

38:31

your kids? Like you want them like seeing you like rapping about other

38:33

guys dicks like when they're and I'm like, I didn't really

38:35

take it seriously. The beautiful thing is the first day I put anything

38:37

online, I got a million views? Are you serious?

38:40

And like in one day? One day, which

38:42

is like crazy? Which video was called ex Boyfriend.

38:45

It's like the story yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're

38:47

like I meet my girlfriend's ex boyfriend.

38:49

He's got like a huge dick. Yeah,

38:52

And it got a million views in the first day

38:54

And were you like, holy shit, Yeah, it was the

38:57

best day of my life. It always will be. It was

38:59

like the day. It was the day that like you

39:01

are who you thought you were. That's fucking cool. Yeah,

39:03

that's really cool. How many views is it up to now?

39:06

Like flat twenty

39:08

million? Maybe that's fucking cool. Man. When

39:10

did this become something where you realize you can

39:12

make money because you put something online, you put

39:14

it up there for free, people watch it for free. And

39:16

like when did you become a professional

39:18

rapper? So like, you know, the internet is crazy,

39:21

So all of a sudden, I've got a fan. And how many years ago

39:23

is two years? Two and a half years

39:25

ago? That is yeah, I think I

39:28

love that about the internet. And and

39:30

and you know, obviously like Bieber is probably

39:33

the biggest sort of for sure, you

39:35

know. And I'm waiting for an actor because you

39:37

know, people a lot of times will say to

39:39

me, uh, you know, and a lot of comedians have gotten

39:41

you're not you know, funny people viral funny people.

39:43

But like a lot of people, you know, like a

39:46

lot of people people ask me sometimes, well, how

39:48

can I get discovered? How could I'm like, yo, get on the

39:50

get on the internet. Do Shakespeare?

39:53

Do fucking your favorite monologue?

39:55

Do your favorite scenes as an actor, like

39:57

because because you can get discovered like if

39:59

you do as an actor, if you did, like, well,

40:01

I'm gonna do you know, this monologue from

40:04

One Full of Cuckoo's Nest And I'm gonna do this

40:06

monologue from Malcolm X, And I'm gonna do this

40:08

monologue from Gone with the Wind. I'm

40:10

winning for an actor to get discovered

40:13

like that. You know, it's I don't know that an act like

40:16

it could happen. The thing is comedians

40:18

for sure, even like the Broad City girls

40:20

like that, they had their stuff and I went to overnight camp with one

40:22

of them actually, which is fun. But you

40:25

know, and like the something

40:27

is to be very shareable for this to work. And

40:30

what makes stuff sharable typically it's like shock

40:33

value or humor. So like

40:35

the monologue have to be like shockingly interesting or

40:37

it's really good, but like it doesn't. I'm not

40:39

saying it has to be three millions so you know

40:41

shared, but if you're good and you put

40:44

it up there, and like yo, they're doing casting, a casting

40:46

director will get wind of it, like yo, look at this fucking guy

40:48

looks like al Paccino or you know this

40:50

this guy could be the next whoever. I just

40:52

I don't know. I just think it's an interesting way, so so go ahead.

40:55

So I agree. I'm of the mindset that the cream rises right

40:57

now, that's like what drove me to do. Um

41:00

the cream does ri? I mean the cream also

41:02

the ship rises to because it's diluted.

41:05

It's fucking diluted. The Internet

41:07

is diluted with cream and ship exactly. It makes

41:09

for more ship that you probably can't stand. But I'll tell you

41:11

what, Like ten years ago, if there was no Internet, like

41:13

what, someone's gonna walk around and have seen

41:15

me in the suburbs wrapping and discover me. No, it wouldn't

41:17

happen. So the crazy

41:20

thing is so all of a sudden, you know, I've got millions of views

41:22

on ship, I've got like a forty five thousand

41:24

person fan base, and there's

41:27

demand for a concert, like there's demand for

41:29

live shows. And I've never wrapped

41:31

in front of like anybody, so like

41:33

the first concert I ever did was headlining t l

41:35

a theater Living Arts in Philadelphia, a thousand cap room,

41:38

so it's like a thousand people. The first

41:40

show, Yeah, it was the worst. That was the worst

41:42

day of my life because I was like so nervous

41:45

and and and what how did that show go? And

41:47

how many songs did you have prepared for a full

41:49

hour? Like in fifteen minutes set?

41:52

And I remember specifically like being

41:54

so tired, like I didn't know how to pace myself, Like I went

41:56

so hard on the first song that was the first time you

41:58

perform ever, and it's like, you know, the

42:00

beautiful thing is that I never had to do like the

42:03

fifteen person dive far. But

42:05

it's also jarring when you've never even done fucking

42:07

karaoke and all of a sudden you're doing this

42:09

in front of like your hometown and

42:12

because you had, because you you people knew

42:14

you in your in your hometown. Yeah, they

42:16

came to New York to like New York Soda. The first

42:18

three shows I did, we sellouts like in New York, Philadelphia

42:21

and bar Are you? Like? What the fund is going on here?

42:23

I'm thinking, you're this is a Bieber fan, That's

42:25

what I'm thinking. And you made some money

42:27

off these shows, and and and then

42:30

and then what happens? And then I did

42:32

a kickstarter So yeah,

42:34

so I so I spent all my barmits for money

42:36

ironically on like the first wave

42:38

of there Are You? Is that for real? Or is

42:40

that just like a good good story for real? You

42:43

spent your that's fucking

42:45

that. That's like super

42:47

Jewish for sure. My parents wouldn't let me touch it

42:49

until after college. Like

42:52

that's again, that's extra credit right

42:54

there. I know, thank God for my I think they were right.

42:56

What am I gonna do to spend eight thousand dollars and like

42:58

a great couch, I'm forty or fucking

43:00

pursue my dream? You know, that's that's what That's what bar

43:02

mitsvers affod to save your money to become a rapper?

43:04

Who I mean, why then would all

43:08

right? So so you you you you spend thy money

43:10

to do the first round of things right out of

43:12

money, and like you know, I didn't want to keep

43:14

working at a job because I just didn't have time to do the

43:16

job and have this other job. So I knew

43:18

that Kickstarter was the logical stat

43:21

because crowd like you know, to me, it was a no brainer,

43:23

and I thought, and I was getting messages. You know, I didn't

43:26

charge for anything because I honestly didn't even known the rights to anything.

43:28

And initially, you know, I don't have any

43:30

producer friends back then, I don't I'm not in the

43:32

studio, like I'm just at my computer downloading

43:34

other people's beats illegally and there's rapping over the fire

43:36

beats. So I don't own the rights, so I can't in

43:39

theory sell the ship. So I'm doing everything for free.

43:41

And you know, I'm getting all these emails saying like how can we

43:43

help, Like I want to pay you to do this, like we

43:46

love this. And I thought, well, this is an interesting like

43:48

psyche people definitely would contribute,

43:50

And I launched a Kickstarter, and

43:53

I conservatively put seventy thousand dollars because

43:56

I thought that should definitely. You know, if

43:58

I got sixty nine thousand, I get nothing, right

44:00

if I had to get it exactly, but

44:02

if I got if I got half a million, I got half a million,

44:05

um, and I got a hundred and thirteen thousand and

44:07

how long twenty days? Damn

44:09

yeah, kickstart as a motherfucker. I

44:11

mean, if you haven't a Kickstarter yet, you should do one. At

44:13

that point, my partner actually did one for

44:15

he did a go fund me for ten thou dollars to

44:18

fix his house and all that ship.

44:21

My my, my, my partner. Uh, his

44:23

name is Gimo Nettie Ak the black

44:25

Ed McMahon um and we were building

44:27

the Bronx Gloom to him a k his house

44:30

um and and he collected the money,

44:32

well he hasn't collected all of it. But but then the Gloom

44:35

Tom in the Bronx just burnt down the whole

44:37

block of the Gloom tom Burn. That's a whole

44:39

story. Yeah, it's all right. Luckily

44:42

no one was injured, but there's a lot of people displaced. It's

44:44

a whole other story, all right. So so

44:46

so then then what happens? So

44:48

I raised that money, I now have that money, and you have a hundred

44:50

thirty thousand dollars. What does that allow me to do? It allows

44:53

me to go to guys like Fetti Wop and get them on songs,

44:55

you know, and so but you read how do you reach how does

44:57

one reach out to Fetti Wop? You know, I got a

44:59

manag manager than emails Fetty

45:01

WAPs managers you know, says hey, I

45:03

represent little Dick. He here's his one sheeeter My one sheet

45:06

is pretty impressive at this point, like it's not like crazy,

45:08

but for the coming rapper, it's like it's

45:10

minimally worth passing on to his client Fetty

45:13

Wapp. Then here's the song. You know, I'm sure

45:15

these guys get tons of feature requests

45:17

every day and this one probably stuck out. It's like a really

45:20

unique cool thing, and they respect, you know, these

45:22

guys respect art and they

45:24

were in and I was for save that Money and

45:26

then you didn't, So that was so you you made

45:29

that first or that was part of the whole record. So

45:32

the hundred and thirteen thousand that I differ Kickstarter

45:34

was designed to like help me

45:36

create my album. My album then

45:38

had a bunch of had sixteen songs.

45:40

Save that Money is one of them, and had like professional rapper with Snoop

45:42

Dogg on the one with t Paining some guys

45:44

you know, we're just like tea paying for example,

45:47

was just a fan of what I was doing and just said like,

45:49

I'd love to get on a song with you. That a guy like Snoop

45:51

dog he'd probably never heard of me until I reached out, but then when

45:53

I reached out, he'd heard of me, and he was like this is dope and and

45:56

so that's Snoop Doggs on which I really like professional

45:58

rapper? Did you record that with him?

46:00

Because it's it's about if you haven't heard the song,

46:03

here it is right here. Grab

46:06

a seat. Thanks. Some days very nice to me,

46:08

Dave, what they do you can call me dog. Let

46:10

me just check your sheet, no problem, certain. Let

46:12

me just say I'm a big fan of jan

46:14

May. I can't lie. I would think about us all day.

46:17

Oh good, there's a reason that we call day. Let me

46:19

start with your back man. When you come from shore, I

46:21

was on a grad down there in Richmond. Are

46:23

you talking about my hometown? I was born out of Philly,

46:25

grew up in a little silly all town called Cheltenham.

46:27

Listen the suburbs. I ever metal wealth around the real

46:29

ship. We never had to struggle for. I want to say

46:32

like that, we just had a different kind of trap, elaborate

46:34

the things that I like about it. And it's unusual for a

46:36

snoop song, or I think, um

46:39

hip hop in general today is because from what

46:41

I know, I'm not a rapper. I'm just a rapp aport.

46:44

But what I know is that people send the tracks,

46:46

they get on it, then they send it back, and

46:48

no one's really in the in the studio together. But

46:51

you guys, I mean it's you know, you guys are flowing,

46:53

You're going back and forth um and

46:55

and it feels like you're together doing it. Obviously

46:58

it's rehearsing, it's written and all that stuff. But

47:00

like, tell me about the snoop song professional rapper,

47:02

Well, I'm happy that it feels that way

47:04

because it wasn't. It was another like a

47:06

lot of what you said is true in terms of like there aren't

47:09

a lot of people that are getting in the studio just because everyone's schedules

47:11

are so crazy. So in this case,

47:13

if I'm being completely transparent, like I pretty much

47:15

wrote the song and it was like, you

47:17

know, Snoop, like here are some holes for you

47:19

to fill in blanks, and he definitely like took liberties

47:21

and did his own thing to understanding sounded like it's

47:24

a concept song. Yeah, I just knew that I wanted to

47:26

have a job interview like be like my entryway

47:28

into rap. How funny is that to treat it

47:30

like corporate America? Um,

47:32

So you know, luckily he was down and but

47:35

no, it wasn't like a situation where me and Snoop like carved

47:37

out a week and like went over like not like you guys doing the studio

47:40

with shirts off, like you know, like still

47:42

haven't smoked with that guy? Yeah, but smoke was Loop do. Now.

47:44

I'm not gonna say whether I have or I haven't, but

47:46

I know that it's like sort of a mountaintop. I

47:49

can't wait um for for people. I mean,

47:51

if you're a weed smoker, um,

47:54

you know, smoking wheat with Snoop Dogg. You know, I was

47:56

Actually I was

47:58

there the day

48:01

Snoop dog met Tupac. Wow.

48:04

I watched them meet each other. And then consequently,

48:08

after that conversation, with the same evening

48:11

Snoop dog Tupac rolled Snoop

48:14

Dogg his first blunt, to

48:16

which I said, that should be a national holiday. So

48:18

this all happened in one night. Neither

48:20

Snoop Dogg or Tupac remembered that I was there, but

48:22

I remembered it. And then when I told Snoop Dogg, he

48:25

it was. It was. It was at

48:27

the Poetic Justice, the John Singleton

48:29

movie rap party, and

48:31

and Snoop had just come out with Deep Cover. Tupac

48:34

was, you know, Tupac and they knew

48:36

each other were and you know, it's sort

48:38

of tense at first, not tense tense, but

48:40

it was like kind of like sizing each other up, and

48:42

then they were battling, rhyming and ship like that.

48:44

I watched the whole thing and then Tupac

48:47

rolled Snoop Dogg his first blunt. What a memory,

48:49

and that crazy, I know, so I was

48:51

like, and then so and then like. The rest is history.

48:53

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49:53

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49:55

your tax returns all based

49:58

on being a professional? Now? Are

50:00

you fucking serious? So? All the money.

50:03

This is what you do. Yeah, it's been that way

50:05

for like a good year. And so so tell me about

50:07

your last year. Tell me where you've been, where you've

50:09

toured, what's the like, tell me some of your

50:11

mountaintop Holy sh it, I can't believe

50:14

this is my life moments of the last year,

50:16

of this, of this whole ride. So that you

50:18

know, I've toured three or four times, like across

50:20

the country, like even Canada. And

50:22

have you been to Europe yet? Know? Like that's really

50:24

and I've never been there as a human being either, So I

50:26

need to go. But are they ready for Little

50:29

Dickie in Europe? I think so? Like over

50:32

there right definitely, like uk Um.

50:35

I don't know if I can go everywhere, but

50:37

like yeah, I think I think if I went there, from

50:39

what I'm told, like any American, I can go over there and do

50:41

pretty well, That's what I'm told. I think I could

50:43

go over there and do solidly for sure. I'm excited. Like

50:45

I've never been to Europe. I really want to go. I'm not

50:47

like I'm not the rapper who when he goes on tour

50:50

ends up doing cool things that have great stories,

50:52

Like I have very few great tour stories like

50:54

I wish I went out and I got blacked out and like

50:57

fucked four girls. But like typically it ends, how many

50:59

is the most fun the ones? It's got to

51:01

be. No, come on, man, it's gotta have been

51:03

least two, not even two

51:05

on tour. How old are you?

51:08

You didn't freak off on tour yet? This

51:11

is the time to do it, okay, because you're a nice

51:13

Jewish kid from Philadelphet,

51:16

you probably even do the one on one. No,

51:19

you have it in you. You have it in you, and if

51:21

you don't have it in you, I could. I feel like your manager

51:23

he has it in him. And

51:25

if not, I know some people that will come in, you know

51:27

phil In But but all right, so

51:29

so go ahead. So so tell me tell me someone like just

51:32

the old ship moment. It doesn't have to be for

51:34

two. It is sex and all that crazy.

51:36

So, like, you know, your mom is probably listening to this,

51:39

so you tell me that off camera. What's your mom's

51:41

name, Jane? Jeane? What Jean? What's your last name?

51:43

Bird? Gene Bird? If

51:46

she's listening to this, Yeah,

51:48

don't worry. I feel like he's telling

51:50

me the truth. That I don't feel like anything. You know, all

51:52

right now, so go ahead, so tell me. So one like

51:55

one moment that was awesome was like I'm

51:57

a big sports fan, so like Andre Ether invited

51:59

me to the Dodger game and then I'm just down there

52:01

and like all the padres are stretching

52:04

and like, uh, Matt Kemp, who's

52:07

on the padres? Who like literally two years ago. Like

52:09

I'm sitting out with my friends when he was on the Dodgers,

52:11

and we're like like doing hypotheticals like

52:13

if you could be one player in the NFL, who would you be? Blank, I'd

52:15

be like Tom Brady, Like if you could be one player in baseball would

52:17

you be? And I was like Matt camp he's star field for the

52:19

Dodgers, and he's like fucking Rihanna, and

52:22

uh he was and then he

52:25

he got out of there like in the nick of time

52:28

and then he uh basically like

52:31

I don't mean to make it sound like he's

52:33

a pussy because he's not. Like I love him, but he like was like

52:35

a fanning out about me. And

52:38

that was like a surreal moment because I'm like, dude, like he

52:40

gave me his numbers, like you better text me, And

52:42

I'm like, dude, you're met camp, Like you're

52:44

like the coolest guy I've ever met that I wouldn't

52:46

be concerned about me texting it right, I'm gonna

52:49

You're gonna change the number when I'm finished with exactly

52:51

yeah. And it's just like you know, he's like everyone said with suthing

52:53

a lot, Biggie, like the padres are all just stretching and like

52:55

they all like look up and like I'm just like on the field.

52:57

Like that to me was like a very surreal moment. Uh,

53:00

Sasha Baron Cohen came to my l a ship

53:03

and like lighted enough to where he invited me to his house

53:05

the next day. So I'm just like at Sasha Baron Cohen's house

53:07

drinking red wine with him. That's fucking

53:09

Crazyha. Baron Cohen

53:11

is borat, That's dope.

53:14

I know. I get, you know, for every

53:16

like I'm obviously a huge Rat fan, but

53:19

I think I get more moved by comedians

53:21

like well, yeah, I mean because then it's outside

53:23

of the things like how the funk do you know about me? How?

53:25

How did Sasha Baron Cohen know about you? I

53:27

don't even know just the same probate way,

53:30

but you found out. I think it just like gets the people and then

53:32

see one thing. They're pretty much like on board. It

53:34

just has to get to enough people, right and

53:37

then so who and what else? Who? What other people

53:39

have like have have have besides

53:41

myself? Because I'm sure me Michael Rapport

53:43

reaching out to was like that was cool. Shockingly

53:45

it was really cool and way more than Matt Camp

53:48

and sucking borat And I'm explaining, but

53:50

but so what other people have reached out to you? Like where

53:52

you were like, how do you even know that? I'm like, I'm alive?

53:54

Like that tripped you out? Man? I

53:56

mean Amy Schumer, Holy

53:59

shit? Uh?

54:01

Kevin Durant when Kevin Kevin Durant was like

54:03

so early to like there's a lot of like post save

54:05

that money, like acknowledgment Kevin Durant

54:08

was like a full year before saying that money hit

54:10

you? Like what did he hit you? On Twitter? He So I have a

54:12

song called Russell Westbrook on a farm. Okay,

54:14

I didn't hear that. It's actually it's not even a joke

54:16

song. It's like a dead serious song. It's like a big analogy

54:19

for like what if Russell Westbrook never knew

54:21

he was with a basketball, can we play that? Yeah,

54:25

uh, ain't no doubt about it. It is coming,

54:28

and I'm just praying that little Dickie Lovett always

54:31

told myself that just the type of ship I wanted. I

54:33

was being honest, even made a promise,

54:35

not with anybody else. This was in the conscious

54:38

talking to him, my f her self. That's a little bonkers.

54:40

I know I still got a lot of ship to conquer.

54:43

I hope that ain't even my concerned though,

54:45

do you know, I'll be working toil. Let's get what I deserve.

54:47

Whatever told him is like a person. You know why

54:50

my earn knows. This ain't even about some

54:52

ship up on a check list. This about

54:54

the fact that I'm about to test this. So

54:56

Kevin Durant then Instagram's

54:58

tweets and Facebook messages like

55:01

his expressing his adoration for the song,

55:03

which was like he was the first I think celebrity

55:05

to even acknowledge And You're like, and this is Kevin Durant,

55:07

This is like the coolest guy. It's like, besides maybe

55:10

Lebron, I don't even know if I would have preferred Lebron, like

55:12

Kevin Durant might be even cooler than you

55:14

know what I mean, and that that was mind blowing

55:17

that happening. I mean, I met Bieber the other day and he

55:19

like was like just jumped out of his chair to express like

55:21

how much he enjoys what I did. It's crazy, man.

55:23

Yeah, it's cool that I now feel

55:26

like post save that money, that I'm

55:29

living in a very good dream at

55:31

all times. It's like feels like everything. It's like it's

55:33

like those moments like Tupac and Snoop, Like I'm now having

55:35

my version of those moments, and it's like when they

55:37

happen, they're just the coolest things ever. I'm sure.

55:39

Man. One thing I'm always fascinated about

55:42

when rapper friends that I know, musician

55:44

friends that I know, particularly hip hop, is

55:47

that like I'll be like, yo,

55:49

where where's the craziest place you toured? And they'll

55:51

be like Switzerland or I was in Sweden, or

55:53

we were in Brazil, or we were in South American. And

55:55

I'm always fascinated that

55:58

music, especially pop,

56:00

because for me, it's still although

56:03

obviously it's global and that's beautiful,

56:05

but for me, it's still like you know this, yeah,

56:07

this small thing. So like when I hear like, yeah, we were in

56:09

Sweden, we had a show for twenty people,

56:13

you know, and from groups that are sort of

56:15

forgotten about in the United States, you

56:17

know, get treated like the way they should be

56:19

in Paris and London and Sweden

56:21

and all that stuff. But like, like, do

56:23

you do you have plans to go to like you know, foreign

56:25

cities and like because that might be where you might

56:28

have your your your freak off, that's where you

56:30

might get your two. But I'd love to, Like

56:32

I've I've studied abroad in Australia, I've

56:34

toward in Canada. Aside from that, I've never been outside

56:36

the country. So like the concept of doing

56:39

that is great. But like you said, I mean, rap

56:41

at this point is the new rock. Like absolutely

56:43

just absurd, Like I'm essentially a rock star, which is like crazy,

56:46

it's crazy because rap is

56:48

the new rock. I mean, And and you know I knew.

56:51

I saw jay Z two summers

56:53

ago close this show in

56:56

Central Park and Sting and

56:59

Gwen Stefani amongst other people went

57:01

on right before him, and then jay Z went and

57:03

I was like, this fucking guy

57:06

closed the show that Sting went on before

57:08

him, I don't think there's a show you could put on the chases

57:10

in the list that he wouldn't close. He's he's

57:12

shutting everything down. He's shutting

57:14

every show down. And it was in the whole

57:16

Central Park. So I just you know, I mean, it's

57:19

it's a beautiful thing, all right. So I'm gonna ask you the

57:21

obligatory and I know it's interchangeable,

57:23

so you don't have to think too hard about it. The obligatory

57:25

top five dead or alive

57:28

list? Actually you know what top five alive

57:30

because I like to exclude um,

57:32

Tupac and Biggie because um, you

57:34

know, I feel like they're on their own list, like the Tupac

57:37

and Biggie list, and because they're for me, like their

57:39

careers were so short. The

57:41

body of work is is well Tupac's you

57:43

know, went on. But so give me your

57:45

top five artists, um,

57:47

you know, solo dudes, and then your top five groups

57:50

go. And it's interchangeable, see like you don't have it's not

57:52

etched in stone. I

57:54

mean, I go jay Z one,

57:56

yep, do I need to do this in order? Or no? Five?

57:59

You know, five just five names jay Z

58:02

nas Um.

58:05

I mean I know that Drake

58:07

will end up there for me, and I think he's

58:09

at the point where he has enough work in too

58:11

where I feel comfortable putting him in there. Okay, so

58:13

I'm putting Drake in there. Problem um,

58:16

you know, from like a a skill perspective,

58:19

I don't see how you don't put eminem in there. And

58:22

then I need one more. I

58:24

mean this is typically where i'd say someone like Biggie,

58:27

but man, I mean, I love Loe

58:29

Wayne. He's good. I do love lo Wayne.

58:31

Do cherry on top. I'll give you a cherry on top. You could

58:33

do six. You don't want

58:35

to get jumped a little dickie. You're out there with these dudes.

58:38

You might piss somebody off. Many many people

58:40

listen to the Iron Rapports podcast. You don't

58:42

put so and so in there. They see you at the

58:44

club, y'all. I heard you on Rap Reports

58:46

podcast. You didn't say me YadA, yadda yadda.

58:48

Next thing, you know, you got beef manager

58:51

Mike is standing there. He's got two girls fucking

58:53

things going to ship now. I guess Andre

58:55

three thousand. He's pretty good. All

58:57

right? Groups Top five groups, Vault

59:00

rap groups not fucking you know not the Rolling

59:02

Stones Wrap groups were talking hip hop. I'm gonna

59:04

be quite honest with you, like I couldn't really

59:07

do the group thing justice. Like when I was growing

59:09

up, I was listening to like, you know, John Mayer and the Google

59:11

Doll. So it's like I wasn't like the guy who was listening to tribe.

59:15

Yeah. Like, if I'm just being completely true, but are

59:17

you are you listening to them now? Like if you familiarize

59:19

yourself, I've certainly made the effort to go back

59:21

and listen, Like I'm just not moved

59:24

by it. Really, WHOA, hold

59:26

the funk on? Hold the

59:28

funk on? You're not moved

59:30

by a tropical quest? I

59:32

mean, now you listen to the I

59:35

haven't done my due diligence to the way that I should. But like I

59:37

when I listened when when I knew that I was becoming a rapper,

59:39

I knew I was gonna be in like a lot of podcasts and be interviewed

59:41

by like, you know about all these things. So I went back and did

59:43

it like my homework and listen to things, and I just,

59:46

yeah, I wasn't cast. I mean outcast.

59:48

That's not old to me. I mean that's like that's a Beastie

59:50

Boys. Yeah. I respect beast Boys. I'm

59:52

just not like I don't listen to their music. M

59:55

yeah, but once again gang Star

59:58

yeah day La yeah

1:00:01

yeah. I mean you're like, yeah, like

1:00:03

it like that. Respect these things, I

1:00:05

do. I respect them all. But have you absorbed it not? Probably

1:00:07

not like to the extent that I should. You know, you need to

1:00:09

have that ship, man. I mean, I appreciate that

1:00:11

you're being honest about and and and

1:00:13

and I mean I think the music

1:00:16

is great, and it's not that these guys can't wrap

1:00:18

it. Certainly can wrap. Like I totally like think

1:00:20

they can wrap. You know, you're fucking bugging me out

1:00:22

right now right, I'm gonna compare it to this, even

1:00:26

when I go back and watch old NBA footage,

1:00:28

right honestly, even like old like what

1:00:30

even like back when I'm watching jan No

1:00:33

pre Jordan's Bird like Bird

1:00:35

Magic, Like I'm watching the Celtics play the Lakers,

1:00:37

right, I'm watching that. I've watched those games and

1:00:40

it feels like a slower game. It

1:00:42

feels like that's just I'm watching it. And

1:00:44

that's kind of when I'm listening to the rap that's how I feel.

1:00:46

I feel like Dave. Yeah, that's how I feel, Dave,

1:00:48

Dave Bird. Let me tell you something. And I don't even think rap

1:00:50

is better now. I'm not saying that it's better

1:00:52

now. It's not because it's like I

1:00:56

gotta help you help yourself here, Dave.

1:00:58

Do you know the records that know the records that you

1:01:00

have to listen to? Right? Okay, Well

1:01:02

you gotta first of all, you

1:01:05

gotta have you gotta listen to the first Jungle

1:01:07

Brothers album. You gotta listen to Gang

1:01:09

Start, just get the Gang star fully gloated

1:01:11

clip. You gotta get the first three Tribe

1:01:13

albums people Intinct of Travels, low

1:01:16

end theory. Wait, you fucked

1:01:18

with min You sucked with the thirty six

1:01:21

Chambers, right, that was the first top to bottom.

1:01:23

Yes, that was the first move I made. Okay,

1:01:25

but have you fucked with it? Though you're saying that I love it?

1:01:28

Like, have you have you fucked with it? Like? If you have

1:01:30

you fucked with it? You didn't love thirties six Chambers?

1:01:33

You're bugging, Dave, Dave, Dave,

1:01:36

you know what I love in this? I have a playlist

1:01:38

for you. I mean it's not but

1:01:40

it's not it's not like anything. It's not like anything

1:01:43

that you you you know, it's not like I'm gonna pull

1:01:45

some ship out of you, like, you know, like some rare ship.

1:01:47

But like here's as far as groups, Jungle

1:01:50

Brothers first album, Funk with the Jungle Brothers

1:01:52

first album Straight Out the Jungle, the first three

1:01:54

Tribe albums, low end theory, people's

1:01:56

instinctive min that Roordies like, it's not just listen

1:01:59

to the two the first you

1:02:01

wait, hold up, you never listened

1:02:03

to Midnight Marauders. We need to

1:02:05

we need to stay in touch and we need to. Yeah, but

1:02:07

I know you should make me the playlist, and I think, no

1:02:10

matter what, I should definitely be listening to all this. It's

1:02:12

just I'm at the point now where all I do is work on music

1:02:14

all day. So like when I actually have free

1:02:16

time, the last thing I want to do is listen to music. That's why

1:02:18

I don't listen to music anymore. You're done.

1:02:21

Done. But it's like it's become almost in

1:02:23

a sense, it's work. It is work, and it's like now when

1:02:25

I was in the music I'll try to like really understand the current

1:02:27

curve of rap because that's where I'm playing here, so

1:02:29

like you know, there's just only so much time

1:02:32

I'm not making No, I got you, I got

1:02:34

you, But no I should. You know,

1:02:36

it's important, it's important, and I think that I

1:02:38

hear that it's important and it's important, like you know, like

1:02:41

like those are fundamentals, like all those groups,

1:02:43

those names that like that's like you know, like talk

1:02:45

about basketball or baseball. That's like pitching,

1:02:48

hitting, catching and you know, or you

1:02:50

know, passing, rebounding and

1:02:52

shooting. Though, those are like the fundamentals. And I think

1:02:54

also, I think like it might even be fun for you to,

1:02:57

like if when you get more familiar with it,

1:02:59

because there's beat and there's just flows,

1:03:01

or you're just gonna be like what the funk? Like especially,

1:03:03

I think it's almost it would be fun

1:03:05

for you who's in it to

1:03:08

to to to learn it, because you

1:03:10

know, it will just be an interesting time to sort of

1:03:13

learn that stuff. No, it's yeah, it's no

1:03:15

one really would learn it, like yeah, being in it and

1:03:17

then yeah, totally I think it's no. I think

1:03:19

I should. I think it's irresponsible that I haven't yet.

1:03:21

I'm just explaining why it hasn't happened.

1:03:23

I hear you, Man, I just hope you don't run into like Mellie

1:03:26

Mell, Like if we see, if you see Mellie, Mellie Mell is ready

1:03:28

to fuck some ship up. Man. You know,

1:03:30

like I mean Caress One is ready to He's ready

1:03:32

to suck some ship up. Yeah, I know. I think I really I'm gonna

1:03:34

actually ask you to make me like a great I got

1:03:36

you, I got you, I gotta spotify ship and it's

1:03:39

it's good. But I'm gonna. I'm gonna and it's again. It's

1:03:41

not like I'm like, you know, unearthing

1:03:43

ship you haven't heard, but I think it's collectively a good

1:03:45

nus. Um what else?

1:03:47

Man? What else? So you so you're a Philly dude? Yeah?

1:03:50

Top five athletes from Philadelphia,

1:03:52

from or that have played on the side. Yeah, played

1:03:55

in the loss in the in the Philadelphia area. That

1:03:57

that means that most to you, Alan Irison means

1:03:59

the most. Man. I go with Allen Iverson. Yeah.

1:04:02

Um, Like, I don't think i'd be who I am if Allen Iverson

1:04:04

didn't exist. Um, I hear you. Um

1:04:07

you know Rocky Bob Bola, Yeah,

1:04:09

it's count Rocky can we count Rocky.

1:04:12

That's count Rocky. How could you not?

1:04:14

I don't know. He's a fictional character, but let's at this

1:04:16

point it's it's up. That's that's

1:04:18

that's not really he may or may not be at

1:04:20

this point. I love Brian Dawkins.

1:04:24

Um. I love Chase Utley

1:04:27

And that was another thing. When I was on the Dodgers field, I met

1:04:29

him and that was like crazy, I've

1:04:31

never like, you know, it was like talking

1:04:33

to like the hottest girl you've ever talked to you, Like,

1:04:35

you know what I mean. It was like that, I've never been so nervous having a

1:04:37

conversation. Okay, you got one more dr

1:04:39

J. This is before No, I'm

1:04:42

just throwing there. Who Like, Nab

1:04:44

is pretty big for me, but like yes, it's like, I

1:04:46

mean, Nab was pretty big for me. I can't lie. Nab

1:04:48

was pretty big. But I don't have another sixer

1:04:50

that like did anything for me besides I Everson.

1:04:53

I mean, Kobe Bryant is from Philadelphia and he

1:04:55

like is another guy that I like. I'm the biggest Kobe

1:04:57

fan. I wouldn't be who I am if Kobe didn't exist, So

1:05:00

like I'd be fine putting Kobe in there, all right, Kobe,

1:05:02

he's Philly. I mean he's Italy via

1:05:04

Philly, but he's Philly. I mean, you know,

1:05:07

and and uh. I was at the All Star Game

1:05:09

because I haven't spent I love Philadelphia because

1:05:11

I grew up like my first sort of superhero

1:05:14

was Julius Serving, Like I didn't

1:05:16

give a funk about Batman or Robin or any

1:05:18

the like. Dr J was my dude. And then

1:05:20

I saw Rocky, So I have a

1:05:22

sort of kinship with Philadelphia from

1:05:24

that. But I was at the All Star

1:05:27

Game the year that Kobe won the m

1:05:29

v P in Philly and watched

1:05:31

the Philly crowd boo him during

1:05:33

the NBA All Star Game, and I was like, these

1:05:35

motherfucker's are savages out here, Like

1:05:37

it's an All Star game. He's from Philly.

1:05:39

Technically was shooting so frequently. I

1:05:42

remember that game. It was just like shooting a lot. It's

1:05:44

All Star game, exactly passed the ball. But

1:05:46

who even has the energy to boo during

1:05:49

for an m v P. I I get it, But I was like, even

1:05:51

New Yorkers aren't like crazy like that. Kobe

1:05:54

up until recently had said a lot of things like,

1:05:56

uh, like that didn't really make it seem like he

1:05:58

felt that he was from Philly, right, you know,

1:06:00

and like I don't know, and recently he's

1:06:02

changes tune a bit, but I understand

1:06:04

there was I mean, and he's also the anti like he's

1:06:07

like Mr Hollywood, of course, but

1:06:09

deep down, like he described

1:06:11

it, well, actually like when I was just at I was at his last

1:06:14

game, was there? Was it fun? He was amazing?

1:06:16

And I remember the press conference he said like he went back

1:06:18

to that game and he said he brought up

1:06:20

the exactly and what he said

1:06:23

it was like two battering rams,

1:06:25

like you know, I'm this way, they're the exact

1:06:27

same way, and we hit and he said, it's

1:06:29

a beautiful thing thing.

1:06:31

I think it was like honestly like respect. It's always been

1:06:33

respect for It was like the reason that he gets the most

1:06:35

impassionate. But it's an All Star game. It's

1:06:37

like, what the funk he shot like thirty five times?

1:06:39

All right, it's an all star game? Do you everybody?

1:06:42

Everybody? Another thing I'm

1:06:44

gonna suggest, since we're talking about Billy

1:06:46

is far and I'm sure you're some sort

1:06:48

of a fan. The roots black thought

1:06:51

is like a great rapper Black Thought. Get

1:06:53

download this for me. Two thousand and fifteen

1:06:55

Performance of the Year Black

1:06:57

Thought, j period

1:07:00

e Jing over all James Brown Beats.

1:07:03

You could download it on SoundCloud. Black

1:07:05

Thought All James Brown Beats,

1:07:07

the d j J period. Fucking

1:07:10

it's like fifty minutes of him, just all over

1:07:12

James Brown. It's just he's

1:07:14

sick. And I think he's always left off

1:07:17

a list because he's associated with roots. Um,

1:07:19

but band to that exactly.

1:07:22

But he he you should check that out,

1:07:24

UM, And I think and

1:07:27

I love that he he was rocking off all James Brown

1:07:29

beats because there, I mean, that's like kind of like

1:07:31

as basic as it gets. All

1:07:33

right, little Dickie, this has

1:07:35

been good for him. You definitely threw me

1:07:38

for a fucking curveball with your group. Shit. But

1:07:40

I'm not judging. Um, I

1:07:43

judge a little bit. I judge. I'm judging.

1:07:45

But but it's called Jean Bird. Listen,

1:07:48

when I come back to the East Coast, I might need a therapist

1:07:50

to talk to. Um. You know,

1:07:52

so I'll be reaching out to you. And

1:07:54

UM, she's gonna retire soon. No no, no no, no

1:07:56

no no, I'll tell her things

1:07:59

that she it'll it'll spawner.

1:08:03

Um, but I appreciate this, and uh, you

1:08:05

know, I wish you luck with everything, and

1:08:07

um, you know, hopefully the next time you

1:08:10

come back on them Wrappport podcasts, we'll have some more

1:08:12

sex capaede of you know, from your your

1:08:14

World tour. And then I'm gonna give you so much

1:08:16

analysis on like the old school rap that

1:08:19

that's for sure, and anything like anything

1:08:21

that's too aggressive in your wrap just send to

1:08:23

me the ship, all

1:08:26

right, cooler out, Thank you,