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All right, what's up? This is Michael Rapport. You are now listening

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to the Iron Rap Reports Stereo podcast. Today

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we are remembering Nipsey Hustle,

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talk about the few times I got to meet

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him, talk to him, my impressions of that, and

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just such a sad situation.

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The NBA regular season is coming

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to the end. Who is going

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to win the m v P and who really

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cares? Is I on Williamson?

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That dude I started

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working on a typical plus

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filmmaker, my man, documentary

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filmmaker. I've never met this guy, can't

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wait to talk to him. He directed Cocaine

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Cowboys Part one, Part two.

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He directed the ESPN documentary

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The ESPN thirty for thirty the You. He

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directed this dope ass documentary called

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dog Fight at His new film, Screwball,

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is all about the nefarious

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dark side of steroids in Florida

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and at time eyes in Alex Rodriguez.

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This guy is Mr. Sick Fuck

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of Florida himself. Billy

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Corbin is on the show talking about

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documentary filmmaking and his new film

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Screwball. All that and more on

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let's get into it right away. It's

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gonna be a dope episode, but such

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a sad

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uh loss um.

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Everybody already knows about this. Uh

2:15

rapper, uh

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businessman, activist,

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whatever, all these different things, Nipsey, hustle,

2:26

passed away, got assassinated,

2:28

got murdered, got killed, got shot and

2:30

killed, and it's just, man,

2:33

there's something about this that's very sad

2:36

um, very upsetting.

2:39

It's crazy because in hip hop, so

2:43

many stars going back

2:45

to Scott Larroc from Boogie Down Productions

2:48

to jam Master Jade, obviously, Biggie

2:50

in Tupac two,

2:53

Freaky Ta from the Lost Boys

2:56

to Just Friends. You

2:58

know, all the all the gun violence and hip

3:00

hop is this. It's crazy and

3:02

everybody understands why so

3:04

many rappers come up from hard

3:07

times and have one foot in the door one

3:09

ft out of the door, and the jealousy

3:12

and just the lifestyle and everything

3:15

that comes with

3:18

being a part of the hood, whether

3:22

you're uh still rocking,

3:24

still banging, still still thugging

3:26

or not. It's just hard to get away

3:28

from all that ship and the jealousy um

3:32

and the envy and

3:34

people's sensitivity and people's

3:37

miss misunderstanding of

3:39

what is ego and not ego. And it's just

3:41

a fucking sad day, uh,

3:43

said another sad loss. A sad loss.

3:46

Uh. For obviously this guy's family, his

3:50

friends, Uh. For I

3:52

mean, this guy had businesses, and all you heard

3:54

about Nipsey Hustle was this

3:56

dude is about business.

3:58

This dude is about buying. This

4:01

dude is about real estate. This is a dude

4:03

is about buying different buildings, different

4:05

houses. He was just all about, like you know,

4:08

doing ship in Los Angeles, um

4:11

and and and doing ship in his community.

4:15

And it's just sad. I was thinking, I

4:17

was trying to think the first I met him three

4:19

times, Nipsey Nipsey Hustle, and I

4:21

was trying to think the first time and

4:24

I and I remembered the

4:26

first time I met him was

4:28

about it's either seven

4:31

eight nine years ago with

4:33

my two sons when they were smaller, So

4:36

if it was like eight years, let's just say eight

4:38

years ago. I met him

4:40

at an event. There was some performance,

4:44

uh, some some hip hop concert

4:47

something. A bunch of acts were performing. I

4:49

think Cypress Hill was performing. I'm

4:53

pretty sure Kanye West was performing,

4:55

I think. And it

4:57

was a bunch of different acts, and I remember there was a ten the

5:00

v I P Tent, And

5:03

I didn't know what Nipsey Hustle looked

5:05

like. I knew his name because

5:08

you know, Nipsey Hustle, uh

5:10

is a play on the old comedian

5:13

funny comedian from the sixties and seventies,

5:15

even the eighties Nipsey Russell actor

5:19

comedian Nipsey Russell UM.

5:21

And I remember the first time I heard

5:23

that name, Nipsey Hustle, I was like, Oh, that ship's

5:25

funny, that's a that's a good name, that's a dope name.

5:28

But I didn't know what he looked

5:30

like. And my kids actually

5:33

hipped me to him, um

5:35

because at the time and even now, they're so plugged

5:38

into new music and younger artists

5:41

way more than I am. Um. So

5:43

we were listening to this mixtape. Uh

5:46

and and it's crazy because he only

5:48

put out one studio

5:51

album, which somebody

5:53

who did and accomplish so much in music

5:55

and his name and the respect

5:58

and just like the respect people liked,

6:01

uh nipsey um. But

6:03

his first record was this last

6:06

record, Victory Lap. That was his first studio

6:08

record. He had been on other people's joints, and

6:11

he put out the mix tapes and the

6:13

EPs and all this stuff. But

6:15

it just goes to show how he just was well liked,

6:19

very very well liked and

6:21

respected more than even

6:23

his music. Like people funk with his music

6:26

and loved his music, but everybody

6:28

liked him and loved him as a person.

6:31

And I remember being backstage at this

6:33

thing and this producer

6:36

of Chief Keief.

6:39

My kids were tripping off. This producer for Chief

6:41

Keief. I can't remember his name, Big kid hev

6:44

He said, Kid, they knew exactly

6:46

who all these people were. They knew exactly who this producer

6:48

was. And they said,

6:51

Dad, that's so and so, and we met

6:53

him. They got a picture with him. Then

6:55

my son, my youngest son, I remember distinctly

6:58

him saying, that's up. Se hustle,

7:01

and I was surprised how tall

7:03

he was, and you immediately

7:05

associated the way his body is,

7:08

tall, thin, extra thin, um

7:10

sort of Snoop Dogg. That's

7:12

who he reminded me of, just the way he looked.

7:15

He had a similar look, similar

7:18

body shape, you know, tall thin, really

7:20

really rail thin. And he

7:22

had on the chains and all that ship. And

7:26

I made eye contact with him because I wanted

7:28

to introduce him to my kids because they were just there to

7:30

take selfies and take pictures, and

7:33

he wind up saying what's up? He said. The three

7:35

times I met him, he always said to me,

7:37

what up O G? What up O G? And

7:39

I said, I'm a fan. I said, these are my kids. And

7:41

he said to my Mason, what a little man? Gave

7:44

my son a pound? What up? Man?

7:46

To to my biggest son. And it was brief,

7:49

and he was always cool. But I just I remember

7:51

thinking, like, this is a nice guy. This is a cool

7:53

dude, cool disposition, genuine

7:57

And I remember that night there wasn't

8:00

a big altercation, but there was a little skirmish

8:02

between security and somebody's people

8:04

and something and he was in the mix of it.

8:07

And it wasn't a fight it was just kind of like yo, push

8:10

and shove and they YO, chill, what the fund are you know? That

8:12

kind of like thing. And my youngest son,

8:14

Macio at the time, pulled out his phone

8:16

and he was like world star, world star, saying

8:18

it like and I was like, yo, don't do that, and like

8:20

I walked and was like, don't do that. Ship. And I remember

8:22

distinctly saying to him, YO,

8:24

when something's going on, don't film

8:27

it. Go the other way

8:29

because you never know what could happen. Um.

8:32

I probably shouldn't even had my kids at this kind

8:34

of thing because that kind of ship was

8:36

going off. And the last time I saw

8:38

a Nipsey was

8:41

sometime last year at

8:43

the Soho House UH in Los

8:46

Angeles and I saw him there

8:48

with his wife. I think that's his wife, Lauren

8:50

London. Um, it was the middle of the day.

8:52

Saw him. He said what's up, O G And

8:55

when he said you know Lauren, I said, yeah, how you

8:57

doing? I'm a fan? So I'm a fan And

8:59

it was like what's going on? Chilling blah blah blah blah

9:01

blah. And we actually talked about him being on the Iron

9:04

Rapp Reports stereo podcast and

9:06

UH you know that was the last

9:08

time I saw him. UM. Loved

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his last record. UM.

9:13

But like I said, I think the thing about

9:15

this guy, Nipsey Hustle

9:17

that resonated even more than his great

9:20

music was who

9:22

he was as a person. It resonates.

9:25

You look at all these old interviews of him now, uh,

9:28

and you look at all these old clips of him now and you

9:30

see like a guy who was smart,

9:32

who was forward thinking, um,

9:35

who was obviously hood, but

9:37

you also see a guy who talked about his vulnerability

9:41

and his fear of not making it and his fear

9:43

of uh not achieving

9:45

the success he wanted. And

9:47

it's just a fucking sad, sad thing

9:49

for for this to happen on a Sunday, in

9:53

the middle of the day, on a probably

9:55

the first beautiful day of spring. It

9:58

was a beautiful Sunday afternoon

10:00

in Los Angeles. UM.

10:02

And to be shot and killed in

10:04

front of a business that

10:07

you created, in the fucking

10:09

hood that you put people

10:11

to work in, it's just it's

10:13

sad. It's just really sad. It's

10:16

scary, and it's just what

10:19

a fucking sad, uh sad situation.

10:22

And a young guy who was just so really beloved

10:25

and respected, um and just

10:27

really seemed to have his eyes

10:29

on the bigger prize.

10:32

And as of this Iron Wrapper stereo

10:34

podcast based on everything I know, Uh,

10:38

they know who killed him, and

10:40

it wasn't some long standing thing.

10:42

Apparently it was just some real simple kind

10:44

of hood

10:47

ship, you know, some simple kind

10:49

of hood disrespect, you

10:52

know, ties to this, ties to that, and

10:55

you know, just the way it goes

10:57

down sometimes it's a really just

11:00

a sad thing. And and and what a loss,

11:02

And what a loss for his family, what a loss

11:05

for his friends, and what a loss for

11:07

the fans, and what a loss for what with the impact

11:10

that he already actually was making

11:13

uh in the world around him and creating around

11:15

him. So uh, shout out and respect

11:18

to Nipsey Hustle. Umm.

11:20

And it's just a sad situation, alright,

11:40

So moving

11:42

on because we gotta move on. You always

11:44

gotta move on in life. Unfortunately,

11:47

UM, here we are.

11:50

The n b A is is winding

11:52

down. The regular season of the

11:55

n b A is coming to

11:57

an end soon, really

12:01

fucking soon. So the

12:03

obligatory uh conversation

12:06

that is going to be going on for the next two weeks

12:08

because there's not really any real

12:12

playoff struggle. The Eastern

12:14

Conference has a little bit of playoff stuff

12:17

going on between the Miami Heat,

12:21

the Orlando Magic, and the Brooklyn

12:24

Nets. It's like the it could sway

12:26

a little bit right now. The Detroit

12:28

Pistons are in the sixth place,

12:31

six seed, Brooklyn Nets or seven seed Miami

12:33

Heat are the eighth seed. Orlando Magic

12:36

is the ninth seed. Um, so there

12:38

could be some shifting uh

12:41

and possibly the Orlando Magic uh

12:43

squeezing into the eighth seed

12:46

if Miami fux up. That's

12:48

the real gist of it. Other than that, the playoffs

12:50

are set and uh

12:53

starting. I believe it's April or

12:55

four or fift Listen, you know this

12:58

is the I M wrap Ports stereo podcast. What

13:00

is rule number one of the

13:02

I am rapp Reports stereo podcast?

13:05

What boom?

13:07

No fact checking? No fact

13:09

checking? But I believe the playoffs start

13:11

April. And I do know for a

13:13

fact. I don't know why I remember

13:15

this because I can't remember anything. The final

13:18

start May.

13:20

Okay, so from April until

13:23

May we have all sorts

13:25

of playoff action. And that first week of

13:27

the playoffs is probably my favorite week

13:30

of basketball.

13:33

Uh. That first round because there's

13:35

basketball games every single

13:37

night. It is basketball heaven.

13:40

Uh, if you're a true basketball fan. The

13:43

first round of the playoffs. Uh, the schedule

13:45

I believe is five nights a week of

13:48

n b A basketball

13:50

and NBA action is still. We

13:53

could complain about it all we want. I

13:56

could say, it's not this, it's not that, but NBA

13:58

action still is. What do you say,

14:01

fantastic? But the conversation

14:03

between now and the playoffs and

14:05

it's really whacked because remember last

14:07

year, it's the same thing. The the the NBA playoffs

14:11

will take place, we will have forgotten all

14:13

about the NBA regular season,

14:16

and then after inevitably all

14:19

people are on vacation. Uh. They've

14:21

gotten bumped out of the playoffs. Hearts have been

14:23

broken, stars have emerged, and

14:26

so on and so forth. In

14:28

June, which seems like a

14:31

long way from now, especially in basketball term,

14:33

in June, they will announce

14:35

the regular season m

14:38

v P, which is the

14:40

dumbest thing in the

14:43

world, with an award that is to me

14:45

meaningless. The regular season

14:48

m v P is a joke. It's a

14:50

totally overblown a

14:52

conversation. Uh. And the fact

14:54

that they wait until June to announce

14:57

the regular season m v P literally,

15:00

not figuratively, literally two

15:02

months after the regular season has ended is

15:04

a joke. But the two people, uh,

15:07

the two players, the two stars, and it's well

15:09

deserved. And I've broken James Harden's

15:11

balls. But even

15:13

somebody who is like, oh,

15:15

he doesn't do this, he doesn't do that. His

15:18

offense, the fucking

15:21

numbers that he's put up all season long,

15:23

you cannot argue he's

15:25

the MVP candidate along with

15:28

Janice Anthemacoomba a k a. The

15:30

Greek Freak. Now,

15:34

if I had to make a prediction on who

15:36

will win the m v P this

15:39

season today, man,

15:43

I don't know. I think I have to go with

15:45

the Greek Freak because

15:48

the Greek Freak and the Milwaukee

15:50

Bucks have a better record then

15:53

the Houston Rockets, led

15:55

by the great

15:57

and incredible and consistent and

16:00

unstoppable, that motherfucker's pretty much

16:02

unstoppable James Harden.

16:05

Fear the Beard. I Uh there

16:07

I said. I used to say shave the fucking beard.

16:09

Now I say fear the

16:11

fucking beard. But right

16:14

now, and it's gonna end this way, Uh,

16:16

the Houston Rockets are forty the

16:18

Milwaukee Bucks are fifty seven and

16:20

twenty and we could talk all this

16:22

ship about the Western Conference, this and

16:25

the Eastern Conference. That Houston

16:27

started off the season not correct.

16:29

Remember they had Carmelo Anthony. Seems like months

16:32

ago Chris Paul and

16:34

the Lakers were spitting on each other, and

16:36

Carmelo Anthony started the season as the

16:38

Houston Rocket didn't get picked up by another

16:40

team. J R. Smith started

16:43

the season as a Cleveland Cavalier, didn't

16:45

get picked up by another team.

16:47

Crazy to think that, Crazy

16:50

to think that Carmelo Anthony uh

16:52

is no longer in the NBA And I don't see

16:54

it changing if he didn't get picked

16:56

up by another team this year. I

16:59

gotta say, I don't think Karmla Anthony is getting

17:01

picked up by another team next year.

17:05

I mean he could if he wants to take a co minimum

17:07

contract, but they're letting him know. Like YO, life goes

17:09

on. Life goes on

17:11

in professional sports. The NBA doesn't

17:13

wait for anybody. Michael Jordan retired,

17:16

Magic retired, Larry Bird retired, Kobe

17:18

retired. At some point, Lebron is gonna be

17:20

done. They don't give a fuck

17:23

these pro sports leagues as

17:27

much as they are Star Driven, the Nobody,

17:30

Nobody, Tom Brady, Gronkowski,

17:33

Terry Bradshaw, Joe Montana, doesn't

17:36

matter, doesn't matter, Roger

17:38

Clemens, Sammy so So,

17:40

doesn't matter who the fuck you are. In baseball,

17:43

football, basketball,

17:47

the game must go

17:50

on and it doesn't stop for

17:52

anybody.

17:54

They might do a little halftime ceremony,

17:57

but it don't stop for any

17:59

by. But in my opinion, and it's a close

18:02

race. Um, I

18:04

think that the Greek Freak is gonna win the

18:06

regular season m v p

18:09

UM and I think I

18:12

think, I think the Milwaukee

18:15

Bucks are gonna make it to the NBA Finals, and

18:18

I think it's a sexy, sexy

18:21

finals in terms of what people will like, what people

18:23

will be excited about. You got the Greek

18:25

Freak and that crew verset

18:28

inevitably, I think the Golden State Warriors

18:31

now Golden State. And if they don't tighten

18:33

the fucking ship up,

18:36

the ship and the ship, they don't tighten that

18:39

ship and ship up, they're

18:41

vulnerable. They are

18:43

vulnerable. I know they could they could

18:45

go into that mode and really, you

18:48

know, DeMarcus Cousins and and

18:50

and the whole crew and everything could fall

18:52

into place and Boged to win him a game, and

18:55

I'm you're saying, what do you mean Bogan to win in the game. I'm saying

18:57

he'll have the game. Why they brought him back

18:59

and all the other guy Steph K, d Clay

19:01

and Draymond. Obviously they're

19:04

the front runner. But if they don't tighten

19:06

it up a S A P. They're playing

19:09

Oklahoma City in the first round. That

19:11

ain't no fucking cake walk right there with Paul

19:14

George, these guys ain't sucking around

19:17

Russell Westbrook. You know, all he wants to

19:19

do is fuck Kevin durant

19:21

No Bruno. But that is all that

19:23

Russell Westbrook wants to do

19:26

is fuck Kevin Durant. Um.

19:28

The crazy thing is is going back to the

19:31

reason why I brought up the NBA, is that this m

19:33

v P, this regular season m v P

19:35

conversation will be the

19:38

you know, will be the discussion definitely

19:40

for the next two weeks and even into the playoffs.

19:43

Uh as the contenders, the

19:46

Bucks, James Harden and the Rockets

19:48

are still in there and they don't get bumped

19:50

with any sort of crazy loss early in

19:53

the playoffs, this is gonna be the conversation,

19:55

and it's a boring conversation. All I care

19:57

about is finals m v P. Because

20:01

regular season m v P James

20:03

Harden won that year, Russell

20:05

Westbrook one another year. Means

20:07

nothing when you get bumped the fuck out

20:09

of the playoffs. Look at Dirk Navinsky.

20:12

That's the best case example. Dirk

20:14

Navinski lost to the

20:16

We Believe Golden State Warriors.

20:19

I was there courtside. I

20:21

was literally their courtside in Oakland.

20:25

I watched them bust their fucking

20:28

asses. Steven Jackson, Baron Davis

20:30

and them. They bust their fucking asses.

20:32

Two weeks later, Dirk Navinski,

20:34

who looked like he had been drinking again

20:37

his stout and eating uh

20:39

you know pickles, accepted

20:41

his award a few days later, and he wasn't

20:43

happy about it. I guarantee you he

20:46

regrets his m v P season,

20:48

his regular m v P season. I guarantee

20:50

you he doesn't look at that trophy and think

20:52

of fond memories. I

20:55

guarantee the thing he thinks about is

20:57

losing to Golden State

20:59

in the playoff. Anyway, Zion

21:02

Williamson and

21:05

the Duke Blue Devils,

21:07

Bye bye, bye

21:10

fucking bye. They got bumped

21:13

the funk out by Tommy

21:15

Izzo and the Michigan State

21:18

Spartans. Now

21:20

I don't hate Duke the

21:23

way I used to. It's just not the same. These

21:25

fucking kids zion, all of them.

21:28

They come and they go. We don't. We don't get to grow

21:30

to hate them like the good old days.

21:33

Grant Hill, fucking Johnny

21:35

Dawkins, Bob Hurley,

21:38

and that fuck Christian Latener. They'd

21:40

stay three four years. We we would,

21:43

we would grow to hate them. You know,

21:45

like you you you never hated Christian

21:47

Latener his freshman year as

21:50

much as you hated him his senior

21:52

year. Of course, as soon as you laid eyes

21:55

on him, you hated that fuck. Okay,

21:58

that's just the way it worked. Uh No one

22:00

liked him immediately. He just

22:02

had a fucking dickhead

22:04

disposition. But by the time it got

22:06

to his senior year, Uh, you

22:09

just you just fucking you really

22:11

couldn't stand Christian Lightner

22:13

and and fucking Bobby Hurley, who I

22:15

grew up watching. I saw him

22:18

play in Summer League games. I knew he

22:20

was nice from Jersey City, But as soon as he put on

22:22

that Duke Blue Devils h a Jersey

22:25

again. You just never fucking like that motherfucker.

22:28

Uh So it grew, But these guys you can't. Really It's

22:31

hard to hate Zion Williamson. He seems

22:33

like such a good kid and you don't know him.

22:35

If he stays and you could, like, you could

22:37

grow, and he plays for Duke, it it

22:39

could grow on you and you could create rivalries

22:42

and you know, they could win games and break

22:44

your heart, and then they could lose and you could break and

22:46

step on their fucking hearts. But with this one and

22:48

done thing, especially with the stars, you can't. You

22:51

can't really grow, uh to really

22:53

learn to hate player? Uh

22:56

specifically that being said,

22:58

bye bye asshole uh at

23:01

Duke. And now the conversation is

23:03

about Zion Williams. Is

23:06

it Williams or Williamson? I don't know. See

23:08

I don't even know his last name correctly, because

23:10

the point that I'm about to make now is that I don't know how

23:13

great don't get me wrong, Do

23:15

not get me wrong. I think this guy is

23:18

is it talent? I think this guy will

23:20

definitely be a good NBA player

23:23

for sure. He seems like a good kid,

23:25

an affable kid. But I can tell you the

23:27

first problem with Zion, let's

23:29

just say Zion, is that he doesn't

23:31

have that killer instinct in him.

23:34

He has a affable,

23:36

lovable, um sweetness

23:39

about him. He seems like a great kid.

23:42

He seems like he's excited about

23:44

the future. He seems like he knows he doesn't have it

23:46

all figured out. All those things are great, but

23:48

I think that's gonna wind up being to the detriment

23:50

of him because he doesn't have that I

23:52

want to step on your fucking head,

23:55

cut your fucking throat attitude

23:58

about him, and I just you like that's gonna be

24:01

his achilles his whole career. Is he mean enough?

24:03

Does he have that killer instinct enough? Is

24:06

he having too much fun? Is he too

24:08

nice? Uh? Does he not know when to step

24:10

on his step on your fucking neck? Does

24:12

he not know when to take over

24:14

games? And obviously he's a physical

24:17

freak. He's huge, he

24:19

could run, he moves, he's

24:21

light on his feet. He could fucking jump out

24:23

of the gym. I've never seen anything,

24:26

uh, anyone that big get up

24:29

as high. And he has a weird way

24:32

of of jumping because he looks

24:34

like it looks he has both both

24:36

grace like he kind of flies up and then

24:38

he fucking boomed down. None

24:41

of that matters in the NBA in terms of being

24:43

a great player. I'm not

24:45

saying he's not gonna be a great player, but

24:48

I think that Zion Williamson is

24:50

a work in progress. And

24:52

and I think that, uh,

24:55

I don't know, I don't know. You know, he couldn't

24:57

lead Duke to the promised Land. I know it's

24:59

a team game, it's a Mike Kraschowski

25:02

team, and it's a different way of going.

25:04

But Yo, Carmelo Anthony,

25:06

he was a man amongst boys. Dwyane

25:09

Wade when he played, they didn't go to the

25:11

finals. But Yo, when he was in his run

25:14

at Marquette, you were like, that motherfucker's nice.

25:16

Kevin Durant, that motherfucker's nice.

25:19

That's the best player on the court. I

25:21

got the impression he had, like Zion's

25:24

the strongest player on the court. Uh.

25:27

Zion's obviously, Uh, everybody's

25:29

paying attention to him because he has this star presence

25:32

around it. But I didn't feel like this

25:34

is a man amongst boys, This is

25:36

a star player who is going to

25:38

clearly dominate uh in the

25:40

NBA. That being said, I'm not saying he's

25:42

not. He's definitely gonna have a good career and

25:45

he's definitely gonna be a good player.

25:47

But what if he's ever that dude that

25:50

I'm not sure about. I'm

25:52

not sure if he's going to be that fucking dude.

25:54

Because when you saw Carmelo play for Syricuse,

25:57

Yo, he was that dude.

26:00

Uh. You see it with certain players, even certain

26:02

players that don't translate to the n

26:04

b A, but they dominate in

26:06

collage and and and I see him if dominating

26:09

moments, and I see him have incredible

26:11

highlights, but I didn't see like, Yo, this

26:13

motherfucker's just this motherfucker's

26:16

just on a different planet. I didn't see that.

26:18

I didn't see that at all this year. I didn't watch every

26:20

single game. Uh. And I'm

26:22

not fucking hating or any of that

26:24

stuff. I'm just saying, I don't

26:27

know if he's like a star,

26:29

star, game changing player

26:31

in the NBA, like a guy who's going

26:34

to come out there and and just be that

26:36

dude every single night. That's my take, and

26:38

I'm sticking fucking to it. Finally,

26:41

in the NBA, apparently

26:44

allegedly because he ain't suing me. Apparently

26:47

and allegedly, Uh Chris

26:49

Stop Porzingis

26:52

tingis pengis you know, uh

26:55

my old friend Chris Stop Porzingis

26:58

formally of the New

27:00

York Nicks now of

27:02

the Dallas Mavericks

27:05

is allegedly, but I'm

27:08

pretty sure this is true, he is

27:10

under investigation for a rape

27:13

or sexual assault in New

27:16

York City. Crazy

27:19

surprising. UM, let

27:21

me just be clear on this. I

27:24

have nothing personal against uh

27:27

Porzingis, and if he's innocent,

27:29

I will be touting his innocence

27:32

as much as I've uh you

27:34

know my history with Porzingis. But when

27:36

he got traded, I was like, fuck Porsingis.

27:39

But this is all again, this is all on the character of

27:42

the players. UM. I don't know

27:44

this dude personally. I wish him

27:46

luck and if he is not guilty,

27:49

I really hope that they find out

27:51

the truth of this. I will say, based

27:53

on what's been reported, this sounds

27:56

really questionable. This thing

27:58

with Porzingis sounds really the fucking

28:01

questionable. First of all, Uh,

28:03

they're saying that the woman who is

28:06

now accusing him of rape at one

28:08

point, and the NBA is well aware of this,

28:11

Uh tried to extort Porzingis,

28:13

because when these kinds of things happened, they reported

28:15

to the NBA. NBA securities like the secret

28:17

Service, they start protecting, investigating

28:20

and getting involved. A number two

28:23

and and this is the weirdest thing. When Porzingis

28:25

had that terrible injury the night when he

28:28

blew his knee out last year, the injury that's

28:30

kept him off the court until now, that

28:33

is when this woman is saying the

28:35

incident happened, so he had a

28:37

career threatening, season ending

28:40

injury, and then he came home,

28:42

had sex wasn't consensual,

28:45

and and raped based on

28:47

what I know, And

28:49

then she's saying he called her his slave.

28:51

And I listen, based

28:53

on what I know by what's being reported

28:56

right now with the alleged

28:59

extortion and alleged

29:01

trying to bribe Kristap

29:03

Porzingis and his brother or his agent or

29:05

whatever the fund is going on, and the fact that

29:07

they're saying that Kristop Porzingis, I

29:10

mean, he didn't just fucking tweak his knee. He didn't

29:12

sprain an ankle or sprain of thumb or

29:14

an elbow. He blew his fucking

29:17

knee out where he he

29:19

couldn't move, he couldn't walk. This big seven

29:21

foot three motherfucker was fucked.

29:24

And then on that same night, he

29:26

was alone. He wasn't with a therapist,

29:28

he wasn't with the doctor. He was all by himself,

29:31

and he got this chick and he raped

29:33

her. I don't know, I

29:35

don't know, but this is a serious allegation.

29:38

It's being taken serious. The District Attorney

29:40

of New York is involved, the

29:43

federal authorities are involved.

29:45

At the New York Police Department

29:47

Special Victim you didn't is involved,

29:50

and all this stuff, and and uh, the one thing

29:52

that I'm curious about is did the Knicks know

29:54

about this when they traded him?

29:57

Because a lot of times, you know, these things are looming,

29:59

these things are kept under wraps. You know, there's this

30:02

woman, she's making a case and blah blah

30:04

blah blah blah, she might accuse him of this. And you

30:07

know, the Knicks, this is a big corporation.

30:10

Uh, and they could have gotten a word that this was gonna

30:12

go down, and they were like, yeah, let's get rid of them before we

30:14

have to deal with any of this. Uh, the Knicks

30:16

can't have any bad press. Uh, this guy

30:18

doesn't want to be here. Let's trade him. I

30:20

I wonder this just me. I don't

30:23

know anything. I didn't hear anything, but

30:25

a lot of times you'll hear. Oh yeah, they knew about

30:27

this two months before it came out. YadA

30:30

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30:33

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30:46

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you something. I'm not gonna start naming

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names yet. But some of these fucking comedians,

32:00

with their fucking bullshit and

32:03

the player hating and all that

32:06

ship I got to. I

32:08

got too so far trying

32:10

to disrespect, trying

32:13

to play your hate to not one but

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two motherfucker's. I

32:18

got you, I got you, motherfucker's.

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you worrying about me? Why

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are you worrying about the gringo man

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dingo? I know I'm being

32:41

vague, but at a certain point,

32:43

you know, I'll start blowing people up. I

32:46

will start fucking blowing people

32:49

up. I'm hyped already

32:52

to come to New York City October

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32:56

ninete at Carolines. I've

32:59

never done stand I did stand up comedy

33:01

one time in my life,

33:04

in nineteen eighty nine, nineteen,

33:07

in June of nine, I

33:09

did stand up comedy one time

33:12

in New York City, Okay,

33:14

two thousand, nineteen, October seventeen,

33:18

Friday, October eighteenth, and

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Saturday, October nineteenth, I

33:23

will be making my mother fucking

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not fucking around, Okay,

33:43

when I come to New York, when

33:45

I come to Bellevue, Washington, I

33:47

am not fucking around.

33:50

I'm loving doing it. And

33:52

I appreciate all the fans that came out to Oxnard,

33:54

California, Ontario, California,

33:56

and Irvine, California the last few weeks

33:58

that came to see the shows. Um,

34:02

I know I didn't get to say hello to everybody. I got to say

34:04

hello to a lot of people, but you

34:07

know, so be it. Fuck. But I'm

34:09

really enjoying doing it, and

34:11

um, I'm having a good time at it. So

34:16

UM,

34:18

we started a Typical Season

34:21

three. We just

34:23

started shooting season three

34:25

of a Typical, which uh,

34:28

I'm excited about. UM. I have no

34:30

idea when the show will actually air. I

34:32

would guess sometime in the fall,

34:35

probably September October

34:37

at the latest. Um, but we

34:39

just started shooting, so I have no clue.

34:43

We're the last ones to find out. Well,

34:45

actually we're the first ones to find out when they announced

34:48

it. I'm sure they have an idea, um,

34:51

but it was cool to get started. It's

34:53

funny when you do a show for three

34:56

seasons and it's been

34:58

like three and a half years that we've been shooting a show,

35:00

you just kinda go prepare

35:04

and you fall right back into it. Um

35:07

like the character and the people and everybody's

35:09

rhythms and the beat of

35:11

a set, because every every set, uh

35:14

that you go to as an actor is different. Uh.

35:17

There's different energy, there's different pacing,

35:19

there's different uh volumes.

35:22

You know, sometimes you got loud people, Uh,

35:25

sometimes you got real quie. This is more of a quiet

35:27

set. I'm probably the loudest motherfucker

35:29

on the set. Now, you wise guys might

35:31

say, oh, you're probably the loudest motherfucker on every

35:33

set. That's not true. That is

35:35

not true. Sometimes there are a d s,

35:38

there are directors, there are

35:40

other actors that are even louder

35:42

than me, the gringo

35:44

man dingo. But I'm hyped, I'm excited,

35:48

uh to be working on season three

35:50

of the show. Um. It's good people,

35:53

it's fun and I'm proud of the show. If you haven't seen Uh

35:56

Atypical, Uh, Seasons

35:58

one and seasons two are

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available all at Netflix

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exclusively at Netflix.

36:06

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what I need now is

36:11

the sick Fuck of

36:13

the Week. So this

36:19

is an award that is earned, not given,

36:21

earned, not given. It's called the

36:23

sick the Fox of the He's

36:25

sick, really fucking sick

36:28

man, just fucking whack line. Make

36:30

them you smell like a sick fuck. You

36:33

look like a six is supposed to be on a plane.

36:35

You sick? You are you doing? Hey, man,

36:37

leave that chicken alone? Leave the chicken

36:39

alone? What are you doing to the chicken

36:42

that doesn't belong in a chicken? Yes?

36:48

There it is? Oh, yes, there

36:51

it's is. You are now

36:54

listening to the sick Fuck of

36:56

the Week theme song. The sick Funk of

36:58

the Week is earned, not given. It is earned,

37:01

not given. It goes to a certain

37:03

somebody with a certain How

37:06

did the French say it's uh? They

37:08

use a word, it's a certain. I'm not I'm not good

37:10

with French, but it's a it's a certain. Oh yeah,

37:13

a certain genes aqua Uh.

37:15

This is an award winning segment By the way,

37:17

the sick Funk of the Week is an award

37:20

winning segment, actually multi award

37:22

winning segment um brought

37:24

to you by me and the good people at

37:27

the I m rapp

37:29

Aboard Stereo podcast.

37:31

Let's jump into it.

37:33

A disgusting, filthy,

37:36

sloppy, dirty Manhattan

37:39

dentist with a an

37:41

appetite and in a disposition

37:44

for child porn and

37:47

crystal meth. Yes,

37:49

imagine your dentist is whacked

37:52

out on child porn and

37:54

crystal meth and you're in there talking about,

37:56

Yo, doc, can you fix my cavity? Yo?

37:58

Doc? Can to pull his fucking tooth.

38:01

It's hurt me. And the dentist is

38:03

hopped up on crystal

38:06

meth. Okay, right there in Manhattan,

38:09

doctor disgusting

38:12

doctor dentist John Wolfe

38:14

had over six hundred images and

38:17

two hundred videos

38:20

of disturbing, sick, unimaginal

38:23

child porn. He

38:26

was also hopped up and

38:28

arrested for being on

38:31

meth. Apparently his meth dealer

38:35

ratted him out. Listen, dentist,

38:37

dentist, Dr wolf You fucking you,

38:39

you, you scumbag. You listen. You

38:42

shouldn't be digging in people's mouth, Okay,

38:46

you're a dentist. You're on meth.

38:49

Let me see your teeth, because that's what

38:51

goes first with meth addicts. That

38:54

is exactly what goes first with

38:56

meth addicts. I don't want to meth

38:59

addicted. And this fucking with my

39:01

teeth, Let me see your teeth. Doc. This

39:03

sick fuck was sentenced to ten

39:06

years in prison for child

39:09

porn and various other charges.

39:11

Yes, you sick. Fuck you. Krispy

39:16

Kreme. I'm not funking with you anymore. Krispy

39:19

Kreme, I am not fucking

39:22

with you anymore. Panera

39:25

Bread all that. The family

39:27

that owns Krispy Kreme

39:29

Doughnuts, Panera Bread, preada manager

39:32

and fucking Einstein Brothers. You know those

39:34

bullshit bagels, the Einstein brother

39:36

bagels. I

39:39

hope you guys know better than to ever buy

39:41

an Einstein bagel. Even before this,

39:43

but the German family that owns those

39:46

companies, those stores has

39:50

finally come clean, has finally

39:52

admitted about their

39:54

reported connection to the

39:57

Nazis. And the guy said it's all

39:59

correct. Yes, there's nothing

40:02

to gloss over. We

40:04

have connection to those crimes,

40:07

and you fox got

40:10

the nerve to

40:12

sell fucking bagels you

40:15

Nazi cos. We've been buying bagels

40:17

from Nazis. We've been buying donuts from

40:20

people that are associated to the Nazis.

40:23

They've been trying to hide it. Now listen, I know it's

40:25

a long time ago. I don't care. You should have

40:27

came clean about this long

40:30

ago. You fuck you tried to hide

40:32

it. Okay, we

40:35

caught you, your Nazi cock sucker,

40:37

and I'm never ever fucking with

40:39

Crispy Cream, Panera, Bread prett

40:41

I'm manager, and Einstein Brothers

40:44

bagels the

40:47

funk out of here. Man. It was a three year

40:49

investigation, okay,

40:52

that tied these family together. They

40:54

got I mean, terrible times to the Nazis.

40:57

Now they're saying they want to donate eleven million

41:00

dollars to an undisclosed charity

41:02

in response to what happened. Fuck

41:05

your money, Duke, we don't

41:07

want your money. We don't want your bullshit bagels.

41:09

And fuck Krispy Creme Donuts. I'm

41:13

going back to Dunkin Donuts if I ever fun

41:15

with donuts anyway. But if you see a Krispy

41:18

Creme Donuts, keep it moving. You might as

41:20

well get yourself some Twinkies or some hostess

41:22

cupcakes, multi

41:25

award winning sick fuck. I believe

41:27

this guy has won sick fuck of the Week

41:29

twice. This is an international

41:32

six fuck. You know Alex Jones,

41:34

Mr info Wars, Mr Sandy

41:37

Hook, Uh massacre, Uh,

41:39

the guy who said that Sandy Hook massacre was

41:42

fake and all that ship. Mr

41:44

Conspiracy theorist, Mr. I I

41:47

think on on a different plane. This

41:50

cocksucker came out and said,

41:53

Uh, he's saying no because no one will, no one

41:55

will do business with him. He's off for social media. They

41:57

kicked him off of Twitter. I believe they kicked

41:59

him off a you tube that kicked them off of Facebook.

42:02

This guy was going around saying that the Sandy Hook

42:04

shootings at the elementary

42:06

school in Newton, Connecticut was a giant

42:08

hoax carried

42:10

out by crisis actors and so forth

42:12

and so on. Well, this piece

42:14

of ship is now claiming that

42:17

at the time when he was saying these certain

42:19

things and talking about these certain events,

42:22

it was a form of psychosis.

42:26

No shit, asshole, Too late,

42:29

sorry, asshole, he said. And

42:31

I quote, and I can't stand quote in this freak.

42:35

I have all I've had a form of psychosis

42:38

back in the past where I basically thought everything

42:40

was stage Duke, I don't give

42:42

a fuck. Okay,

42:46

I get that you're a pundant and all that stuff.

42:48

There's one thing to be a pundent, and it's

42:50

one thing to be a cynical and all that

42:52

stuff. You don't get that pass. Sorry,

42:55

asshole. Sorry,

42:58

And if it was a form of psycho hostis, let

43:00

me see some doctor paperwork. And even if

43:02

the doctor says that don't matter, you're still

43:04

a scumbag. O can't

43:07

you can't be trusted. How do we

43:09

know you're not gonna fall into some other psychosis.

43:12

Sorry, you're not getting back on Twitter, Duke. You're

43:15

not getting back on YouTube. Nobody's fucking

43:17

with you. The things that would that you said are unforgivable.

43:22

You didn't need to tell us that you were

43:24

psychotic. Motherfucker for saying those things

43:26

you're saying. And now, because it ain't sweet, what

43:29

were you hopped up on? What

43:32

were you hopped up on? Shame on you,

43:34

motherfucker too late. Sorry,

43:36

Alex Jones. Now this is the third time

43:38

you made it onto the sick funck of the Week on

43:40

the I Am Rapp Reports Stereo podcast.

43:43

You're welcome Florida.

43:46

Is Florida in the house. I

43:48

told you. Later on in the show, we have Mr Florida

43:51

himself, Billy Corbin,

43:54

guys made so many document he knows about

43:56

the degenerative disease of

43:59

the sick funck in Florida

44:01

more than anybody coming up later

44:03

on My guy, Billy Corbin in

44:06

Florida, a teacher

44:09

Mr. Zunga Aaron

44:12

Zunga, a teacher at a private school,

44:14

is accused of having sex with a student.

44:16

This is a male having sex

44:19

with a female student after

44:22

putting his baby down

44:25

for a nap. Yes, in Jacksonville,

44:27

Florida, Trinity Christian

44:30

Academy. This piece of ship was

44:32

having sex with miners. He

44:35

was having sex with miners while

44:37

his baby was in his house.

44:40

He's been fired, he's gotten arrested,

44:42

and he's probably gonna go to jail. And

44:45

you know what happens to people that have

44:47

sex with underage girls in jail?

44:50

Yes, the wonderbread

44:52

bag and the olive oil

44:54

treatment. Uh. In Ohio,

44:58

a couple, a couple of loving

45:00

couple, they weren't even married. A loving couple

45:02

was out at a carnival. You know, one of these

45:04

traveling carnivals. Uh. Michael

45:07

Matheson and Lauren Wilder

45:09

were arrested a few days ago six p

45:12

m. Okay on a ferris

45:14

wheel, the sky Star Wheel. Okay,

45:18

at the Great American ball Park

45:20

in Cincinnati. These two were fucking

45:24

on the ferris wheel. They were fucking

45:27

on the ferris wheel. Okay

45:30

while kids, children watched,

45:32

adults videotaped them. Six

45:36

p m. That's damn near broad day.

45:38

Like, get a room, sickos, I'm

45:41

kinky, I'm erotic too,

45:43

but control yourself, animal, control

45:47

your fucking self. Back

45:50

to Florida. We are back

45:53

to Florida. A Florida man accused

45:55

of killing a couple and attacking their neighbor

45:59

believed he believed

46:01

that he was half man, half

46:05

dog. What kind of dog did you think

46:07

you were? A duke? Uh? He

46:09

was discovered by authorities in his home biting

46:12

and ripping into the

46:14

male victims face.

46:17

How is this guy not shot? When the police

46:19

come and they see you biting uh and

46:21

chewing somebody's face and they can't

46:23

defend themselves, why don't they shoot

46:25

this fucking guy? This guy is saying

46:27

that you know this was that bath sult, you

46:30

know this was that good bath Salt

46:34

Austin horror Hoff whatever his name is, is

46:36

is facing murder charges and the deaths

46:39

of Michelle mich

46:41

Sean and John Stevens, as well as

46:43

attempted murder murder for allegedly

46:46

attacking the couple's daughter. This

46:49

is a sickle. This is a sickle. You

46:51

know. He he killed people with his bare hands,

46:54

and then he was trying to eat them, biting

46:57

him, chewing him.

46:59

He was he was. They threatened to shoot

47:01

him and taste him. They should have threatened. I

47:03

mean, they shouldn't have threatened. They should have shot him or at least

47:06

taste him. Apparently the cops kicked him in the

47:08

head. They couldn't stop this motherfucker.

47:10

And if you see him, I gotta be honest.

47:13

This guy don't look like your everyday sick funk

47:15

of the week. It looks kind of weird. But

47:17

when you're hopped up on that good good,

47:20

anything is possible. You feel

47:22

no pain. And

47:24

finally, in Alaska, this

47:27

video. I got a lot of requests for this. This

47:29

is this is terrible. UM

47:31

surveillance video in Alaska.

47:34

Uh to sick fox A father and son

47:36

sick fuck a record on

47:38

surveillance video. UM captured

47:41

the father and son kill a

47:44

black bear. They used handguns these

47:46

fox One of the guys had his shirt off, the other guy

47:48

was on skis. I don't know what these people were doing.

47:50

They had to be hopped up on something. Uh.

47:53

They shot and killed a black bear

47:56

and her newborn cubs for

48:00

no reason. What do you get out of this?

48:02

Shot and killed a bear and her newborn

48:05

cubs and then boasted about getting away

48:07

with the cruel act. Well, sorry, assholes.

48:10

The whole thing was caught on video.

48:12

Owen Renner eighteen and his

48:14

dumb fucking father, Andrew Renter,

48:18

are seen in the videotape shooting them,

48:20

then dragging the bears out, and

48:23

then celebrating high fiving where

48:25

you got locked up, dumb fuck, You're

48:27

shooting and killing bears. You're celebrating

48:29

that you're never coming

48:31

out of prison. Okay,

48:34

hopefully, hopefully your

48:36

jail cell, your jail cell mate

48:39

will be an animal lover. Okay,

48:41

Owen Renter and dad Andrew

48:44

Renner, and then you guys

48:46

will get dragged out. You guys

48:49

will be man handled. These guys were

48:51

bragging, don't funk around, don't funk

48:53

with me. They

48:55

were so hyped that they killed a black but they

48:57

looked like they were on that meth. And

49:00

they're in the snow there, they have no

49:02

shirts and these people are definitely fucking

49:05

crazy and they are definitely I am Rapports

49:07

Stereo Podcast Sick Fox

49:10

of the Week. All right, what can I say?

49:13

All Right, here we are. I told you, Mr Miami,

49:15

Mr Florida. This guy

49:18

has made a career off of finding,

49:21

exposing, discussing all

49:24

things Florida. So

49:27

many sick Fox coming

49:29

up next. Filmmaker,

49:31

director of Cocaine Cowboys, director

49:33

of The U, director of Dog Fight,

49:35

director of the new film that really

49:38

throws Alex Rodriguez under

49:40

the bus, Screwball. I've been

49:42

a fan of this guy's for a long time. Really

49:46

good filmmaker, all about Florida,

49:48

all about the sick Fox in Florida. Coming

49:50

up next, talking about all his films and

49:53

his new film Screwball, the

49:55

reality of Alex Rodriguez, steroid

49:57

involvement, and so much more. Coming

50:00

up next on the Iron Wrap for Stereo podcast. My

50:02

interview with my guy Billy Corbin.

50:08

All right, my man, Billy Corbin,

50:10

so let's jump into this. So,

50:12

since you are Mr Florida,

50:15

I need you, Mr Florida a

50:17

k a. Billy Corbin, to tell me what

50:20

are the three most sketchy

50:22

parts sketchy areas in

50:25

the entire state of

50:27

Florida. Let me tell you the one that you probably

50:29

least expect, but Orlando, home

50:32

of Walt disney World. First

50:34

of all, we live in a Florida's peninsula,

50:37

so which means it's surrounded on three

50:39

sides at least by nearly all

50:41

sides by water short of

50:43

an island, and you're

50:47

an hour away from the beach when you're in Orlando.

50:49

Why the funk would you be in a peninsula

50:51

an hour away from

50:53

the beach. People don't settle. It's a swamp,

50:56

is what it is. They drain the swamp and built, you

50:58

know, the happiest place on earth. But it's

51:00

shady as fuck. And the

51:04

only reason it's there is because basically Walt

51:06

Disney found a place where he could just

51:08

buy the place. When I say by the place, I

51:10

mean have his own government, his own laws,

51:12

his own rules. Because it was in the

51:14

literally in the middle of nowhere. Nobody wanted

51:17

to be there, so we invented this fictitious

51:19

place. That's thing about Florida. The whole story of Florida

51:22

is lies that came true. You

51:24

know, real estate hustlers who were like, you

51:26

know, by this lot of land for twenty dollars

51:28

down and twenty dollars a month till you're ready to retire,

51:31

have your own Florida dream. It was a fucking

51:33

swamp. It was nothing. And then

51:35

eventually the the Army Corps of Engineers did find

51:37

a way to tame God basically

51:40

and drain the swamp. And these are lies that

51:42

came true. I mean, it's amazing. You know,

51:44

we have a we have a city called North Miami Beach.

51:47

Ain't no beach at North Miami Beach. I

51:49

think it might be the only city in the country with beach

51:51

in the name where there ain't no beach. Okay,

51:53

yeah, there's there's maybe a manmade lake with some

51:56

crocodiles in it, but there's no beach. And

51:58

that was designed to basically full

52:00

servicemen who served during World War

52:02

Two, where you have wait, a military base, right and what's

52:04

now bal Harbor home to like one of the

52:06

most expensive and exclusive shopping malls in

52:08

the world. But there was a military base in World

52:10

War two and they were looking for fucking U boats

52:13

and Germans coming off off the coast on the

52:15

Atlantic, and then they went back to wherever they

52:17

wore in Middle America, and then they suddenly

52:19

started to see ads or they'd be like a table at

52:22

a shop as some you know, some Midwestern shopping

52:24

mall, like twenty dollars down, twenty dollars

52:26

a month, you know, a month for the rest of your life,

52:28

till you're ready to retire, and then you come down, have

52:30

you a lot of land to build your Florida dream you know,

52:32

retirement dream house. And it was just

52:35

lies we sold, We sell sunshine. That's

52:37

the thing about Florida's is that. And that's what Orlando

52:39

is. Orlando is like the perfect lie. It's

52:41

safe, it's happy. Come down

52:43

here on our fake beach at the Disney Hotel

52:46

and your kid gets eaten by an alligator. For Christ's

52:48

sake, that's not a beach. It's a ship lake

52:51

with man eating creatures in it. And

52:53

people come in from out of town they think, Wow, we're

52:55

in Florida. It's the beach. Let your kid play

52:57

on the seashore. Seashore and what do you

52:59

talk? It's and and and shady

53:02

ship goes down there. I mean for a while,

53:05

Um, the word was it

53:07

was Disney lobbying that kept this from happening, because

53:09

they're the most powerful lobbying force

53:11

in the state of Florida's you can imagine one of the you

53:13

know, certainly the biggest job creator and revenue

53:15

generator in the state. And we don't have a state

53:17

income tax, so we gotta we got we

53:19

subsist from hustle to hustle, right our

53:22

side hustles got side hustles in Florida.

53:24

And so the Orlando they

53:27

could not build, for example, a

53:29

rape crisis center because they didn't

53:31

want to send a message that people get raped in Orlando.

53:34

So they couldn't even help victims because

53:37

they didn't want that

53:40

would well, that would mean to crime happens here. It's

53:42

of course, and and because there's so many tourists

53:45

and so much tourists money coming in, crime happens

53:47

left and right. I mean, you come in from out of town,

53:49

you gotta target on your back. In Florida,

53:52

that's when they stopped back in the day. You remember, rental

53:54

cars had bumper stickers in the back. Said Alamo

53:57

said whatever, right, So in Florida,

53:59

we started having tourists who were getting killed

54:02

just for exiting the wrong hot you

54:04

know, the wrong exit off the highway. And so the first

54:06

thing it did was got rid of the bumper stickers

54:08

to try to say you couldn't tell right, you know, straight

54:11

away that these were out of towners. And then they

54:13

started putting Sun icons

54:15

this is back in the nineties on the

54:17

exit signs on the highway, so you would

54:19

know that was a safe exit if you were

54:21

from out of town. Follow the Sun and

54:24

so you weren't exiting in some of the rougher neighborhoods

54:26

like Liberty City or over Town or places

54:28

where these these mostly German tourists, sadly

54:31

we're getting we're getting killed, shot

54:33

and killed. There's a whole rash of that. Yeah,

54:36

and those are some of the the neighbor you know, like Liberty City, Optimist

54:38

Warriors were Uncle Luke shout out

54:40

to Uncle Luke represents uh and

54:42

and um. That's considered

54:44

one of the more dangerous parts of town. But

54:46

I wouldn't call it shady because we have neighbors

54:49

neighborhoods like that all over all over the country.

54:51

It's just the hood, but it's working class

54:53

people That's the thing too, is they just released

54:55

to study the United Way. That said six, that's

54:59

six zero six of

55:01

residents in Miami Dade County

55:03

cannot afford to make ends meet. So

55:06

of these are that or the working force?

55:08

These people who have minimum one job. How

55:10

shady is the city of Miami.

55:13

Remember so Miami Dade County is thirty four

55:15

municipalities. That's shady in and of itself.

55:18

This ship is like it's a game of Thrones

55:20

in Paradise with slightly fewer dragons.

55:22

That's what Miami's like. Everybody's got their fiefdom.

55:25

That means thirty four mayors. That's almost

55:27

thirty four different police departments. Okay,

55:29

you who drive up, down, left, right, sideways in this fucking

55:32

town for hours, l ap D pulls

55:34

you over. That's the way it goes. I

55:36

drive. I commute from like the North Miami

55:38

area to the Miami Beach to Miami Beach where

55:40

our offices every day. UM on a good day,

55:42

it's not a long drive to be twenty five minutes with

55:45

with with no traffic less

55:47

than ten miles. Depending on what

55:49

route I take, I can get pulled over by

55:51

any one of six different police departments.

55:54

It's all fiefdom. You gonna see which flag is

55:56

flying before you get into a road rage incident, you know.

55:58

And it's just because of

56:00

that, it becomes this very we self segregate,

56:03

and so nobody gives a shit about anybody else

56:05

because I'm in this little municipality, this little

56:07

place. So the city of Miami itself, which is obviously

56:09

the most famous, you know, of the

56:11

of the cities, is also one of the poorest

56:14

cities in America. When you look at City

56:16

of Miami and um

56:18

and we have a government that is just

56:21

like it's like a banana republic.

56:23

It's like a third world country. And I'm not if

56:26

you want to just go online and watch the

56:28

city Commission meeting, it's just crazy, Like

56:30

you'll be like, what the fuck, how

56:32

does this government function? And it doesn't.

56:35

It would be like if you went now to Miami to buy

56:37

a house or open a business or

56:39

make an investment, you gotta be out of your mind. That would

56:41

be like that would be like opening a business

56:43

in Caracas. It's an unstable

56:45

regime. It's like an unstable government, and

56:48

Miami is as a city and it's a shame

56:50

because there are great people there.

56:52

They're hard working people there, but they

56:54

can't afford to live there, and their government

56:56

doesn't give a ship about poor people. And

56:58

that's not new, that's true. Rewear okay,

57:00

cocaine cowboys in my In my documentaries,

57:03

I never try to interview people associated

57:06

with crime. That's just me, especially people

57:08

that are associated with crime and Florida. How

57:10

do you get to these people? How do you track these

57:12

people down to get them to talk on

57:15

film? Well, it kind of helps

57:17

living in that environment. I'm a native Fluoridian

57:19

and a lifelong Miami and and

57:21

so you know, one of my like my pastimes

57:24

in Miami. I'm not like a South Beach nightclub

57:26

guy. I don't like the trendy ship. I like dive

57:28

bars. That's what I like. Um,

57:30

real places with real people, that's all. So

57:33

one of my favorite things to do is just like go

57:35

to this just this, you know, this skieziest

57:39

bar. Just grab

57:41

a stool at the bar next

57:43

to the just like the crustiest I'm talking about,

57:45

like a fucking barnacle, you know, just like

57:48

growing on a dock, like that kind of guy, you

57:50

know, um who looks like he just was born

57:52

in this bar and has been there ever since, and

57:54

just strike up a conversation, and in Miami,

57:56

invariably he'll wind up having

57:59

just and released from prison. Maybe

58:01

he is a deposed Third world dictator who

58:04

fled his country. You just strike up a

58:06

conversation and you're like, I'm in the midst of a

58:08

podcast right now, I'm making a documentary.

58:10

It's just the thing, you know, I always say, it's an

58:13

old saying. I'm fond of that. L

58:15

A is where you go when you want to be somebody. New

58:17

York is where you go when you are somebody, and

58:19

Miami's where you go when you want to be somebody

58:22

else. Okay, but tell me about Cocaine Cowboys

58:24

specifically. How did that film come about and

58:26

how did you get to those different lists

58:28

of people in this film? Well, that was like our

58:31

childhood, you know. It was was growing up as kids

58:33

going like, what the hell is happening in this community.

58:35

I grew up in a working class North

58:37

Miami Beach and um this Highland

58:39

Lakes, Highland Gardens area, and

58:42

um, not far from the Miami Dolphins played

58:44

just east of there. Um, you

58:47

look around and very few

58:49

people, very few people that I was aware

58:51

of. It still to this day, we're in the drug business.

58:54

But everybody was doing well. Everybody

58:56

had a toy, a portion the driveway,

58:58

adding a second story to the house,

59:00

fixing up the pool, you know, getting a slide.

59:02

Put it just like fun ship. And what

59:05

it was is that it was.

59:07

I say that Miami during the cocaine boom

59:10

is the only successful case

59:13

study of Reagan's trickle down economics

59:15

because there was so much money being

59:18

generated that it trickled down

59:20

into every legitimate industry, into

59:23

real estate, into infrastructure. So whatever you

59:25

did for a living, legit sold cars,

59:27

sold jewelry. We're a grosser. That's what

59:29

I remember. I don't remember the drugs because

59:32

I was a kid, but I remember the affluence,

59:34

and I remembered the violence, like

59:36

there was my parents were scared, you know what I

59:38

mean. We you know, we had the alarm system,

59:40

we had they built a guardgate in our neighborhood.

59:43

Like people started to get concerned about

59:45

the violence and and and and the crime. Um

59:47

that's what I remember. And so we were were

59:50

always curious about that era and

59:52

this hypothesis of did

59:54

the drug boom helped to build the city

59:57

as we know it and love it? Today and or

59:59

look, no one love to hate it today, and so

1:00:01

we were always curious about that. But then it came down

1:00:03

to, like you said, access, that's what documentary, that's

1:00:06

whatever. That's not what you know, it's who you know. You know,

1:00:08

that's what life is all about. Access, access

1:00:10

to what anything, people, distribution,

1:00:12

equipment, a story, character, as you name

1:00:15

it. So I literally

1:00:17

get a call from my second cousin who's like,

1:00:19

Bill, you ever hear this guy John Roberts, And

1:00:22

I was like John Roberts. He's like, uh, let

1:00:24

me ask Alfred my producing more. You often you hear about, you

1:00:26

know, John Purnell Roberts. As he goes, he goes,

1:00:28

yeah, he was in the book Man Who Made It Snow by Max

1:00:31

Mermelstein, who was the snitch that flipped on everybody

1:00:33

in the Median cartel. But I'm like, yay, yeah, I'm like, why

1:00:35

you asked cousin Dave. Cousin. Dave's

1:00:37

like, because I'm at the pool in my condo and

1:00:39

Aventura and I'm chatting with him. He's a neighbor

1:00:41

of mine. This is what I'm saying, Like, this is just in Miami.

1:00:44

It's it's sucking, like six degrees of shady

1:00:46

people, you know. And so we meet with the guy.

1:00:48

He introduces us to Mickey Monday, the pilot, remember

1:00:50

the red yacht with long hair. And

1:00:53

we just got ruled like this is the story we've been like,

1:00:55

it's on the bucket list, you know, the project list,

1:00:57

and and now we had these interesting

1:00:59

guy used to tell it in the first person. That's our thing too,

1:01:02

is that we named the company Rack and Tour. But I one

1:01:04

of the proposed names of our company from me

1:01:06

was the first person productions. It's all

1:01:08

about I and we, not they in heat.

1:01:11

Of course his mouth maybe that they want to hear

1:01:13

about the people who lived it and experienced it, I

1:01:15

and we not they in heat. So when we finally

1:01:17

got the I and we were like, oh ship,

1:01:19

we started rolling. We started writing hit Men in Prison

1:01:22

as you do penn palelling, and

1:01:25

started to get some responses and

1:01:27

wound up, you know, hooking up

1:01:29

with these cops and these lawyers and these

1:01:31

journalists going into prison. Um.

1:01:34

The Florida Department of Corrections was very cooperative

1:01:36

and with our crew and and went in and

1:01:39

interviewed jge rivi Iala, the hit man. I

1:01:41

think three or four different times, Umo on,

1:01:44

Cameron off and Uh, to

1:01:46

me, cooking Cowboys is a mosaic

1:01:49

and all of these different people and characters

1:01:51

talking about their first person experience in Miami

1:01:53

in that era, whether they were uh,

1:01:55

they were you know, traffickers, wholesalers,

1:01:58

journalists, cop killers,

1:02:01

um, they're all individual

1:02:04

tiles. And then when you zoom out, they

1:02:07

have formed downtown Miami,

1:02:09

know, and this this mosaic of downtown

1:02:11

Miami. And that's what we wanted to do. I think with a lot

1:02:13

of filmmakers sort of like especially in Doctor

1:02:16

like we call like micro macro

1:02:18

Like, yeah, the micro is these individual people

1:02:20

telling their first person experiences.

1:02:23

But the macro is what's it really about. It's really about

1:02:25

how this industry, this illicit trade,

1:02:28

built a city built in American

1:02:30

city. And you know, they say, the great thing about Miami

1:02:32

is it's so close to the United States, all right. So

1:02:34

for for the people that you meet and that you deal

1:02:36

with while you're making a film, how do you detach

1:02:41

how do you deal with that? How do I deal with it constantly?

1:02:43

I deal with it constantly. It's part of the job.

1:02:45

And when you're a documentary filmmaker,

1:02:48

it's because you're you are curious

1:02:50

about people, and you love

1:02:53

to tell stories, but you also more importantly love to hear

1:02:56

stories. Uh and and so it's

1:02:58

just part of the territory. And I'm in

1:03:00

touch with people from our very first documentary

1:03:02

to this day. You know, you call them characters,

1:03:04

and I call them characters too, but

1:03:06

they're real people. So it's like it's

1:03:10

the answer is, it's very difficult and in

1:03:12

and in many cases often impossible to

1:03:15

detach yourself completely from

1:03:17

those people. Uh and and it's not that bad.

1:03:19

So what was the last time you got a call from a criminal?

1:03:22

From cocaine cowboys? Last week

1:03:25

was that we had opening night of

1:03:27

our play that I wrote co wrote

1:03:29

called Confessions of a Cocaine Cowboy in Miami

1:03:31

Beach and Griselle de Blanco, the Godmother

1:03:34

La Madina, her son Michael Corleone

1:03:36

Sepulvida was there with his wife with his new wife.

1:03:38

At the premiere, we got the guy Yancey areas

1:03:41

if if people watch um uh

1:03:44

Queen of the South on USA, he was like the evil

1:03:46

Mexican general for a couple of seasons, but

1:03:48

you got whacked spoiler alert. Uh And

1:03:51

he's brilliant he's plays Rivy the Hitman,

1:03:53

and it's like this dark comedy

1:03:57

and it's I wrote it with this guy Orange

1:03:59

Squire, who's a TV where he was on the first season of This

1:04:01

Is Us. He's now on CBS is The Good Fight,

1:04:04

and he's written thirty plays originally

1:04:06

from Miami. And I'm I've always

1:04:08

wanted to do this because when we first research Cocaine

1:04:10

Cowboys, the first thing I got,

1:04:13

um My Bruising partners went to like Central

1:04:15

Florida and and got this deposition

1:04:17

was seven volumes thirt hundred pages

1:04:20

of Riviaala and Jorge rival

1:04:22

of the hit Man. And I was reading this thing, and I went to New

1:04:24

World School the Arts, which is modeled

1:04:26

after the New York School of the Performing Arts, and

1:04:29

um that's where Terrell McCraney,

1:04:31

who won the Oscar for Moonlight, the Screenwriter, where

1:04:33

he went to high school. My claim to fame.

1:04:35

By the way, now this is gonna be on my two I thought Cocaine Cowboys

1:04:38

and that you were gonna be on my tombstone. But now

1:04:40

Terrell reminded me of

1:04:42

this that I was the only person at New World who

1:04:44

would drive him home to Liberty City because

1:04:47

everybody else was like, my parents won't let me drive

1:04:49

in that neighbor. My parents didn't know where the hell I was. And

1:04:51

and when I got my car and going to New

1:04:53

World, kids from all over the county went there.

1:04:56

So it opened up the fucking map for me. I was driving

1:04:58

everywhere, and he would dride his bike home

1:05:01

from fucking downtown Miami to Liberty City

1:05:03

and dangerous,

1:05:06

and I was like, dude, get in the car. And

1:05:08

I didn't remember. I mean, I remember driving him

1:05:10

home, but it was only in recent

1:05:13

years where he mentioned that, like, you were the

1:05:15

only guy who would drive me home delivered. I'm

1:05:17

like, now I gotta claim to fame, all right. So for your latest

1:05:19

film, Screwball, how do you avoid

1:05:22

getting lawsuit? Since it's about Major League

1:05:24

Baseball and big time players

1:05:26

like Alex Rodriguez and

1:05:28

more importantly, how do I avoid interviewing

1:05:31

you? And I don't want to get sued. It's

1:05:33

all true and

1:05:36

truth is absolute defense

1:05:38

defamation. I mean, we told the truth, and I'll tell

1:05:40

you. I've been making the documentaries now for christ

1:05:43

about twenty years, and Screwball

1:05:46

as ridiculous as it is, as farcical

1:05:48

as it is, as absurd and hilarious

1:05:50

as it is, it is all true,

1:05:52

and it is our most meticulously researched

1:05:55

documentary ever, in no small part

1:05:57

because we're dealing with some very powerful, healthy

1:06:00

and litigious people in both Major League

1:06:02

Baseball and Alex Rodriguez,

1:06:04

both of whom spent untold

1:06:06

millions duking it out with each other, you

1:06:09

know, back in when this scandal

1:06:11

exploded, and so we wore meticulous

1:06:14

We went out and we obtained uh,

1:06:17

sworn testimony under

1:06:20

oath testimony transcripts that had never been

1:06:22

released to the public, so we could cross check

1:06:24

some of the crazy ship that people were telling us,

1:06:27

just to confirm that it was, that

1:06:29

it was accurate, and so that

1:06:31

that's what I said, I'd say, I would say,

1:06:34

uh, you know, so

1:06:36

when you were making screwbol do you look at what footage

1:06:39

is available beforehand? Like b roll

1:06:41

In interviews, There was a lot of information,

1:06:43

but there was not a ton of

1:06:45

footage. Yeah, there was some archive ship about

1:06:48

the scale, you know, when the scandal broke itself,

1:06:50

but there was not a ton of

1:06:53

stuff. There was a lot of archive news

1:06:55

stuff about the scandal itself

1:06:57

once it broke. But remember the part of the story that we're

1:07:00

telling, it's sort of not about

1:07:02

all the famous people necessarily, it's

1:07:04

the shadier parts with the sort of

1:07:07

unknown characters. You know, these

1:07:09

like Elmore Leonard, Karl Hyacin

1:07:11

esque or even Cohen Brothers esque

1:07:14

kind of botched heist movie that we were

1:07:16

telling. I don't want to get too far ahead

1:07:18

of ourselves in the story, but I but I will say that to

1:07:20

answer your process questions, is a really good question

1:07:22

that I that I that I don't get asked very often.

1:07:24

Um, it's like it's really the it's the it's

1:07:27

the clear extra music. It's like which

1:07:29

came first. And the answer is almost like sort of, well,

1:07:31

everything happens at the same when you're inspired,

1:07:33

you know what all just happens. And it's kind of I don't want

1:07:35

to give an asshole answer like that, but like it's

1:07:37

kind of like that where, UM, you

1:07:39

know, you you gotta do research and advance

1:07:41

because you've got to prep for interviews, so you gotta

1:07:44

be asking smart questions and the right

1:07:46

questions and obviously teeing

1:07:48

up footage that you know exists,

1:07:51

um as opposed to, like you said, teeing up footage

1:07:53

that might not exist. Then they're like, oh fuck, there's no

1:07:55

there's no footage of this. UM. But it's a little

1:07:57

bit of both in that. Then we go into we

1:07:59

do this the you know, kind of the preliminary

1:08:01

research. Then you go into an an interview,

1:08:04

and then we do a radio cut. So really

1:08:06

we're letting the characters tell the story. And

1:08:09

Knockwood to date never used the narrator

1:08:11

in any of our docs. It's only been

1:08:13

told by the people. You know, what what we get

1:08:15

is what we got, and it's only told by those

1:08:17

people in the first person, and so that

1:08:20

becomes there are techniques to

1:08:22

ensure that you you get what you need and

1:08:24

that that's a whole other process issue. But here

1:08:27

we use their words to kind

1:08:29

of right the script, and that

1:08:31

want to write the documentary UM

1:08:33

using their words, and we do this what we call a radio

1:08:35

cut, because all the talking heads lined up

1:08:38

UM with them just telling the story, and

1:08:40

then we start to cut that, you know, to

1:08:42

to uh chisel that way, craft

1:08:44

that and then start adding the

1:08:46

b roll, some of which we knew existed and

1:08:49

are prepared for because we asked them questions

1:08:51

about it. UM. In the case of Tony Bosh,

1:08:53

he gave this hilarious, like shady,

1:08:56

sketchy interview with Pedro Gomez, the baseball

1:08:59

reporter for esp right outside of Monts

1:09:01

which is this famous old school

1:09:04

dock side dining place down by Miami

1:09:06

City Hall. And like this is in

1:09:08

the midst of like everybody was trying to

1:09:10

the scandal blew up. Everybody wants to find

1:09:13

this fake doctor and find out if he treated

1:09:15

these guys and everything, and so they

1:09:17

kind of stage this, Okay, you'll come out of the bar and

1:09:19

I'll be here waiting with the camera. And so

1:09:21

we knew that foot We had the raw footage of

1:09:24

that, so we're like, oh, shoot, we gotta ask them

1:09:26

about that obviously, because we're gonna do We're

1:09:28

gonna craft this whole segment around

1:09:30

that. So we we knew, and then some of the stuff

1:09:33

comes in later and like, oh ship, this is a cool bite.

1:09:35

This is a cool piece of archive. But ultimately

1:09:37

what we had in this movie. So you mentioned the U thirt

1:09:39

th So you've done sportstocks,

1:09:42

you've done music docs. I don't want

1:09:44

to begrudge anyone's hustle because

1:09:46

docks are hard to do, but I will say with

1:09:48

sports docks, it's a little bit more of a formula,

1:09:50

a little bit more paint by numbers. I mean, you

1:09:53

interview some sports guys, they

1:09:55

talk about some sports stuff and

1:09:58

some sports games. You go good footage of the sports

1:10:00

games and you integrate the sports game for

1:10:02

with the sports guys talking. It's we played.

1:10:05

We played the Gators. You know this bowl

1:10:07

and boom, you showed your cut to the game. I

1:10:10

scored this touchdown, I fumbled the ball here

1:10:12

you show the fucking footage. That's how that's

1:10:14

how the game is played. So here we

1:10:16

got these shady dudes in

1:10:19

you know, fake doctor's clinics at

1:10:21

Live nightclub in fucking

1:10:24

Fountain Blue Hotel and Mimbie Beach at

1:10:26

the Ritz Carl as he said, and keep

1:10:29

his skaing this sports bar

1:10:31

over here, this locker room over here, this

1:10:33

hotel over here. There's no footage of that. So

1:10:35

what are you gonna do? So we hadd a unique

1:10:38

challenge there, and we knew we had

1:10:40

to do recrease. And man, I mean it's definitely

1:10:43

risky because I mean it was really elaborate, you

1:10:45

know, and and really expensive

1:10:47

in the world of docks anyway, you know, that was a big thing

1:10:49

from you should have dock. I mean a big day

1:10:51

on set for us. We got six

1:10:53

people, right, the eight people is a

1:10:56

huge day for us. So when we're doing scenes

1:10:58

like live nightclub or Major League

1:11:00

Baseball headquarters in New York

1:11:02

board room during the arbitration when a rod

1:11:05

is appealing his the you know, the longest

1:11:07

uh suspension in the history of the game. We

1:11:10

were feeding for lunch a hundred people

1:11:12

that day. That is a huge footprint for us.

1:11:15

I mean his doc filmmakers, Jesus Christ,

1:11:17

you got the crew, the extras. It

1:11:19

was risky, man, but you know what you have to say. You can't you can't

1:11:22

win if you don't play the game. You know, you know, you

1:11:24

know, so um gotta play to win and

1:11:26

uh and and we roll the dice on this. I

1:11:28

think I thank you for saying so. I I

1:11:31

felt like it it paid off, but I

1:11:33

needed to do something. And as a doc filmmaker,

1:11:35

man, recrease, it's all about keeping it

1:11:37

real with docs and recrease your fav That's

1:11:40

Why'm like, I gotta do it in a creative way. I gotta

1:11:42

do it in a way that makes sense. Spike Jones

1:11:44

ninety seven, Sky's the Limit. R. I.

1:11:46

P. Biggie that was That was the sort of

1:11:48

seed in high school and college that was extremely

1:11:51

influential. I mean, what a brilliant

1:11:53

way to overcome that obstacle. You got

1:11:55

this posthumous video and

1:11:57

he's gonna be like, well, why don't we just do a

1:12:00

straight up classic like

1:12:02

art type of a Bad Boy

1:12:04

Records video of ninety seven.

1:12:06

And we always call this movie screwball. We knew what

1:12:08

was going to be this farce because the story is so

1:12:11

fucking ridiculous. It's so ridiculous.

1:12:13

If it didn't happen, you wouldn't believe it.

1:12:16

You think it's the dumbest thing you ever heard in your life. But

1:12:18

it did, and so I thought, like, you know what, let's drunk

1:12:20

history this. Let's have actors lip syncing

1:12:22

the dialogue. We had great. I mean, you

1:12:25

would appreciate this because we had the

1:12:27

two main guys, Porter Fisher and

1:12:29

Tony Bosh. We interviewed them. They're

1:12:31

absolutely in the film the most um and

1:12:34

uh. They have both have very

1:12:36

similar storytelling styles that are like they

1:12:39

both talked like I walked into

1:12:41

his office and I said I

1:12:43

want my money and he says, I

1:12:45

don't have your money, and I said, you

1:12:47

better get my money. He says, I'm

1:12:49

Tony Bosh, what are you gonna do about it? I said, I'm

1:12:51

a fucking choke you out

1:12:54

right here they talk in dialogue.

1:12:56

So that's where I was like, oh, ship, we could

1:12:58

make we could totally drunk history this and

1:13:01

have the actors, you know, lip sync to play back

1:13:03

on set, and

1:13:06

all the actors will be eight years old. That's

1:13:08

in lab coats and stethoscopes and facial

1:13:11

hair and copy uniforms and pin stripes

1:13:13

for a Rod. And it was just and that's when

1:13:15

you realized when I interviewed these two guys,

1:13:17

and I'm like, well, this is a story, like this isn't about a

1:13:19

Rod. Don't tell him that, but this isn't about a

1:13:21

Rod, you know, And this is about these

1:13:24

wonderful only in Miami kind

1:13:26

of characters. And a Rod was collateral

1:13:28

damage. So the highest paid baseball

1:13:30

player in history, his career was effectively

1:13:33

ended over a four thousand

1:13:35

dollar debt between a cocaine addicted

1:13:37

fake doctor and his fake tan addicted

1:13:40

steroid patient. I mean, it's just that

1:13:42

ship, four thousand dollar, four grande

1:13:44

and like a month a month's time, like m

1:13:46

one month and four grand. So have you heard anything

1:13:48

from Alex Rodriguez about about scowl Ball? Have

1:13:50

there been any threats, any lawyer letters? Well,

1:13:53

what's his response been. Just a few weeks

1:13:55

ago, UM our distributor,

1:13:57

Greenwich Entertainment just released free solo

1:13:59

one the Oscar for Best Documentary.

1:14:02

UM they dropped our trailer

1:14:04

for Screwball online. Starts

1:14:07

getting some traction, starts building over the day,

1:14:10

kind of kind of going viral ish the next

1:14:12

day Instagram,

1:14:15

A Rod's on his knee putting a ring on j Lo's

1:14:17

finger. I just say, I wanted to

1:14:19

tell I I know A Rod's publicist,

1:14:21

and I wanted to text him, well played. Bro

1:14:23

ha ha ha. I didn't what I wanted to. But

1:14:25

have you got any letters yet? No? Hell? You know

1:14:28

what you know what the strisand effect is. You know, it's

1:14:30

like what happened with Devin juniez Unez cow

1:14:32

Like. I think he feels

1:14:34

like if I ignore it,

1:14:36

it'll just go away. And guess what. To

1:14:38

date, he's been absolutely right about that.

1:14:40

I mean this this comeback story. You know,

1:14:42

Alex Rodriguez, his second act. Nobody

1:14:45

saw that coming, Nobody, unprecedented,

1:14:48

dude, Nobody liked him before. Everybody's

1:14:50

like, oh he's you know, he's made a comeback. I'm gonna come back. Yankees

1:14:52

fans booed the guy. I mean, it's those own fans

1:14:56

a rod the broadcast. I remember when

1:14:58

he first was doing the post season

1:15:00

and I was like, he's fucking great at

1:15:02

this. He's really fucking

1:15:04

good. He's great at it. I mean,

1:15:06

you can't you can't knock his hustle. I mean, Rodriguez

1:15:09

could have been the most endorsed, well

1:15:11

liked athlete if he was like

1:15:13

that during his whole time as

1:15:16

a player. I mean, you're a famous

1:15:18

person. You know a lot of famous people. When you get

1:15:20

caught up in the machine of

1:15:22

fame, when you are making yourself

1:15:25

and a lot of other people a lot of money,

1:15:27

it's it's a really stressful thing. People

1:15:30

think it's like, you know, to be rich and famous is

1:15:32

like to be rich, and it's like, it's fucking stressful.

1:15:34

If you're that famous, you could walk we could

1:15:36

walk into right Aid and grab some thrifty ice cream. He

1:15:38

can't go anywhere like for example,

1:15:40

you know when when when I did a documentary

1:15:43

Broke about athletes going broke for ESPN, and

1:15:45

and uh, I kind of put it into perspective.

1:15:47

And I had some addiction in my

1:15:49

family. One of the things they tell you that addicts, um

1:15:52

are emotionally stunted at the

1:15:54

age in which they started using. And

1:15:56

even though they get older, they don't really grow up.

1:15:59

They're always sort of like that fragile

1:16:01

thirteen year old who went into mom's

1:16:04

medicine cabinet or you know, or to the to

1:16:06

their parents bar or whatever. And and um,

1:16:09

I see that with famous people too. Whatever

1:16:11

age you are when you become that fucking

1:16:13

famous, that is, as Justin

1:16:16

Bieber, Michael Jackson, whatever age

1:16:18

you're at when you become that fucking

1:16:20

famous, you never emotionally

1:16:23

because we as human beings

1:16:25

exist because of our failures. We

1:16:27

exist because people tell us know and

1:16:29

we learn our boundaries from that. If you're

1:16:32

eight and you're fucking rich

1:16:34

and famous and everybody tells you yes

1:16:36

forever for the rest of your life, you're gonna be

1:16:38

fucked in the head. Agree. And So I think Alex

1:16:40

had it hard. I really do. I think

1:16:42

he had it hard. I think he's a really complicated, interesting

1:16:45

guy. Um. And I

1:16:47

think that that he just I think that finally

1:16:50

getting kind of squeezed out of the game in a way,

1:16:52

forced out of this game that he loved. That was the

1:16:54

only thing he knew how to do, That was the only thing

1:16:56

anyone ever told him he was any good at um.

1:17:00

I think it was liberating for him.

1:17:02

And yeah, he was no less rich, and arguably

1:17:04

he's more famous now, but he was able to

1:17:06

say, like, well, what else am I gonna do? Like you said, what's

1:17:08

my second act going to be? And I think it's been fascinating

1:17:11

to watch. It's certainly been a miraculous

1:17:13

public relations story that they're gonna be teaching

1:17:15

in fucking universities and PR courses

1:17:18

forever. I mean, Lance Armstrong went around,

1:17:20

he did the Mayo culpitour. Alex never

1:17:22

apologizes joked about it a little bit, which

1:17:24

is great, it's charming, it's funny, but he's

1:17:27

never really come clean about

1:17:29

what went down and what be Remember this guy went down

1:17:31

fighting. He went down lying, is what he did. And he never

1:17:33

really and he didn't have to. He just

1:17:36

knew that if I can, I guess, if I can

1:17:38

ride ride the South. That was the strategy, was

1:17:40

just you know, heading the sand kind of approach, and

1:17:42

man, it worked. And and MLB

1:17:45

has been brilliantly complicit in this. And I say

1:17:47

MLB now is like basically

1:17:50

it's like politics or anything in American life. It's

1:17:52

the w W E now and

1:17:55

they needed to heal back in. Bud

1:17:57

Seay was going to retire. He is the stair

1:18:00

roid commissioner. Everybody I believe

1:18:02

that he knowingly exploited and profited

1:18:04

from the steroid era. He needed

1:18:06

something to bring back to the game at the sport

1:18:09

after ninet, people thought America's pastime

1:18:11

was toast. After that, players

1:18:13

strike and day and they had

1:18:15

these fucking baseball monsters with their next

1:18:17

the size of my waist smacking

1:18:19

balls to Guantanamo and everybody's

1:18:21

like, this is great. You know, you had the home run

1:18:23

Derby and Sosa McGuire and

1:18:26

you know the home run race that captured the imagination

1:18:28

of the world, and we all knew what was going

1:18:30

on. You can see these guys, we fucking

1:18:32

we morphed them in the documentary. You see

1:18:35

Mark McGuire back to back with jose

1:18:37

Can Saco, these strawny little dudes

1:18:39

that all of a sudden turned into the incredible. To

1:18:42

see Lee was like, listen, I gotta go out the door here

1:18:44

looking like I did something. So this

1:18:47

what was the script? He was the Vince McMahon. I think

1:18:49

he's like, we're gonna what bigger scalp could

1:18:51

we get than a rod So they get in this battle

1:18:53

of the legacies, and then uh,

1:18:55

what happens he retires? They nailed. They run

1:18:58

biggest suspension ever um being

1:19:00

on Rob Manfred who was selling second

1:19:02

in command, who was in charge of this ridiculous

1:19:04

investigation which which some

1:19:06

people alleging the documentary was in a legal investigation,

1:19:09

and they broke the law MLB down there handing

1:19:11

over a hundred thousand dollars cash

1:19:13

from some fucking slush fund to a felon

1:19:15

and a diner in South Florida. And who's crazy

1:19:17

what they were doing down there, seducing nurses

1:19:20

from clinics from this guy Tony Bosch

1:19:23

literally like having affairs with them. It was

1:19:25

a Keystone Cops. It was this internal

1:19:27

organization. But then Rob Manford gets

1:19:29

the he gets the call he's the commissioner

1:19:31

now, and then what happens He goes, well, I'm dens

1:19:33

McMahon, Now what's the storyline? Now? Storyline

1:19:36

is higher Pete Rose and a rod to be

1:19:38

announcers and commentators for the game. Brilliant,

1:19:41

brilliant storyline, because the bottom line

1:19:43

is the bottom line. That's what they're there. Look at what

1:19:46

elevates, what raises the stock and raises

1:19:48

the revenue and interest in the game. It's it's fucking wrestling,

1:19:50

right, w w A Right. Is there anything you've

1:19:53

seen recently that you're hyped about? Documentary

1:19:55

wise? I mean finding Neverland, I'm sorry leaving

1:19:57

leaving Neverland. Finding Neverlands a very

1:19:59

different, very different story, but leaving Neverland.

1:20:02

Um. I really interested

1:20:04

in in this idea of of sort of reassessing

1:20:07

heroes because that's really what screwball. It's

1:20:09

kind of the victims. Part of the

1:20:11

reason why we use the kids is that they're the victims

1:20:13

in this story. Not only did Tony Bosh, for example,

1:20:15

have high school patients, which is not okay,

1:20:18

um and he rightfully went to federal

1:20:21

prison for that. But ultimately,

1:20:25

these kids look up to professional athletes

1:20:27

as heroes, as role models, and

1:20:29

many of them may not be worthy of

1:20:32

of of that, uh you know, adulation,

1:20:35

um and and they may not be people

1:20:38

worth looking up to. And and that to me is like

1:20:40

that's the state of of America right now.

1:20:42

I think screwball is ultimately to me about

1:20:45

what I call the new American values. And

1:20:48

we used to teach our kids to to

1:20:50

tell the truth, honesty, integrity,

1:20:52

do unto others as you'd have done unto you,

1:20:55

the golden rule. And now

1:20:58

the messages lie,

1:21:00

cheat and steel. And that's how you win, that's

1:21:03

how you get ahead, that's how you get rich. Lie

1:21:05

cheat and steel. And you

1:21:08

could be the highest paid baseball player of all time,

1:21:10

lie cheat and steel, And you could be the commissioner

1:21:12

of Major League Baseball Live cheat and Steel, and

1:21:14

you two kids could be president of the United

1:21:17

States. And I'm not saying

1:21:19

that that that's not how it's

1:21:21

been all along, okay,

1:21:23

But when the president says it's okay

1:21:25

and the president behaves that way, that

1:21:28

is a paradigm shift

1:21:30

in the values of a country. And

1:21:32

that is a message being sent to a generation

1:21:35

or more of young people that

1:21:38

is toxic. It is a toxic message that

1:21:40

I don't think we're going to fully comprehend

1:21:42

the damage that has been done. I

1:21:44

think it's going to be horrific, you

1:21:46

know, and and and I just I

1:21:48

think that the people at the top set

1:21:51

the tone and when at least they're pretending

1:21:54

that the American dream is alive and well, at

1:21:56

least when they're pretending to send a message

1:21:58

of hope, at least, when they're tending

1:22:01

that the that the that the game isn't rigged,

1:22:03

the system isn't fixed, there's a chance

1:22:06

for young people to feel like there is an opportunity.

1:22:09

But when they're basically saying the

1:22:13

rules don't apply to us, it's it's

1:22:15

the famous Nixon line, you know when he told

1:22:17

Frost he said, when the president

1:22:19

does it, that means that it is not

1:22:22

illegal, basically saying unequivocally, the

1:22:24

presidents above the law. That was the moment when

1:22:26

people like damn Nixon's garbage.

1:22:29

But now the president

1:22:31

doesn't just say that he hasn't

1:22:33

talked to talk. He walks the fucking walk. I am

1:22:36

above the law, and Congress says, oh

1:22:38

yeah, yeah, yeah, he is above the law. What

1:22:40

does that say? What does that say?

1:22:43

Now? I would say you are some sort of

1:22:45

steroid expert at

1:22:47

this point, if you bet the house,

1:22:49

the dog, the wife and the kids,

1:22:52

what would you say? Billy Corbyn,

1:22:54

the filmmaker, a k A steroid

1:22:57

expert, what would you say that Donald

1:22:59

Trump is on right now, just philosophically.

1:23:02

Is it steroids? H g H? I mean, what's

1:23:05

his mixed and he doesn't sweat,

1:23:07

he's blowing. I mean, what the fuck do you think Trump

1:23:09

has hopped the point right now? Well, listen, there's

1:23:11

no doubt he's he's spray tanning. I don't think

1:23:13

there's any question. You don't get those raccoon

1:23:16

eyes from from you know, natural

1:23:18

sun, like not to mention that color is not

1:23:21

human, but I would say, and

1:23:24

obviously he's got some kind of hair plugs or hair surgery,

1:23:26

and I think maybe adderall. I think it's a healthy

1:23:29

like horse pill size supply

1:23:31

of all allegedly. All right, look,

1:23:33

I I can really talk to you about each of your films.

1:23:36

I loved Dog Fight. I

1:23:38

I really enjoyed that film.

1:23:40

I think it's well made. It was a

1:23:42

great story. Uh, really

1:23:44

well executed and looked good. Do you

1:23:46

have any plans on what you're gonna

1:23:48

do next? Yeah, I we're actually

1:23:50

shooting right now Dog Fight. Round to talk

1:23:53

about not being able to detach from

1:23:55

the subject, I got.

1:23:58

Really we worked on that project for a long

1:24:00

time, for like six seven years,

1:24:02

and we couldn't get anybody to distribute

1:24:05

it, and I thought it was some of our best

1:24:07

work. And I had friends in the

1:24:09

industry who were telling we were showing rough

1:24:11

cuts and like, what do you think and they're like, I think it's

1:24:13

some of your best work. We will not buy it. And

1:24:15

I was like, so weird, so weird, and

1:24:18

I was like I thought and and I was

1:24:20

really attached to it because guys started dying.

1:24:22

One of them was shot and killed,

1:24:25

one of them was tasered to death

1:24:27

by police, and Hyaliyah and Miami,

1:24:29

and I was like, I got to get

1:24:31

this movie out before like the fucking end

1:24:33

credits are like an obituary section. I'm like, I'm

1:24:35

like, I was devastated by all this, and I was like,

1:24:38

before we're all dead, I want to get this

1:24:40

movie out and um, and

1:24:42

so people were telling us this is true.

1:24:45

Why were they Why were they rejecting this movie?

1:24:47

Uh? To Urban,

1:24:51

which which we know what asked code for to Jewish,

1:24:54

too too violent and

1:24:56

too real, And I was like, that doesn't

1:24:59

make those are legit things were

1:25:01

documentary, that's American pop culture,

1:25:03

that's football, that's fucking basketball,

1:25:06

that's right, Like two Urban two fol Like, what are you

1:25:08

talking. I was so pissed and I was

1:25:10

devastated by it too, and um

1:25:13

and finally Netflix was like, oh, we love this. Netflix

1:25:16

had the balls to to put it out all

1:25:18

right, dog Fight. For the people who haven't seen it, give

1:25:20

a quick, simple synopsis.

1:25:22

It's about the subculture of unsanctioned,

1:25:25

illegal, bare knuckle brawls

1:25:28

in backyards. Kim Mo Slice was the godfather

1:25:30

of that game. And this was the next generation

1:25:32

of guys who were in these really hopeless

1:25:35

communities, a lot of them ex cons, who

1:25:37

don't you check that box on the uh you

1:25:40

know on on on the job application.

1:25:42

You're not going to get that job you have you have

1:25:44

recently been arrested or you are convicted felon. And

1:25:46

so these guys thoughts and believe that their

1:25:48

best opportunity is to literally try

1:25:50

to fight their way out of their situation

1:25:52

to create a better life for themselves and their families. And it's

1:25:54

kind of like this brutal, beautiful,

1:25:57

tragic kind of look at a part

1:25:59

of Miami that when you think of Miami, think

1:26:01

South Beach and everybody thinks of those same ten

1:26:03

blocks, you know, um beautiful blocks.

1:26:05

But this is like twenty three miles southwest

1:26:08

and what's the part of Miami. It takes place in Perrine.

1:26:11

It's called West Perrine. I was not able to

1:26:13

detach myself from that show because and I

1:26:15

went with Dotta five thousand,

1:26:17

Daffier Harris, who's the fighter in the He's the don

1:26:19

king of the backyard who gets an opportunity to go

1:26:21

pro and make some real money and um,

1:26:24

and that's how the movie ends. But then he calls

1:26:26

out Kimbo Slice at the end is how

1:26:28

many people would like to see Dotta

1:26:30

five thousand versus Kimbo Slice because we all know

1:26:32

someone's going to sleep. That's what he said. That's

1:26:34

the movie ends. Spoiler alert. It's on Netflix

1:26:37

if you want to check it out. But then Bellatur

1:26:40

made that fight happen in real life. It

1:26:42

was one of the worst fights in history I think

1:26:44

of mixed martial arts. And we

1:26:47

went to Houston for that Bellotour

1:26:49

event following data with our cameras

1:26:52

and Dotta

1:26:54

basically died in the ring. It

1:26:56

was like Rocky for it was

1:26:59

just devastating eating and he coded and

1:27:02

they took him out of there an on a

1:27:04

stretcher and then put him in an ambulance. We followed

1:27:06

him to the hospital and we sat there

1:27:09

just devastated. I was in a state of just

1:27:11

shock and uh. For for

1:27:13

a while, they thought that they were going to pull

1:27:15

the plug, that it was over for him, that he was brain

1:27:17

dead, that he was not coming out of it. Um.

1:27:20

And he did come out of it, and

1:27:22

he's now promoting a fight

1:27:25

in a triangular cage in

1:27:28

Cheyenne, Wyoming. Uh

1:27:31

in a couple of weeks, like April fourth or fifth

1:27:33

or something, and we're we basically

1:27:35

followed data from that Kimbo

1:27:37

fight. And then of course Kimbo of course, like what two

1:27:39

months later dies. It's unbelievable.

1:27:41

So that's that's something we're working on. It's it's

1:27:44

Florida. Listen. The Florida today is

1:27:46

the America of tomorrow. I hate to tell you

1:27:48

so all right, Billy

1:27:50

Corbyn, Uh, thank you

1:27:52

so much for rocking with me on the I m Rapp Reports

1:27:55

stereo podcast. Check out screw

1:27:57

Ball, which is now out

1:27:59

on Deo on demand. I have been

1:28:01

a fan. I've been a fan for a long

1:28:03

time. It is nice to finally meet

1:28:06

you. I really appreciate you taking the time,

1:28:08

Billy Corbyn, watch out for all the Sick

1:28:11

Fox down there in Miami, and

1:28:13

Yo, thank you everybody. Check out Screwball.

1:28:15

I love this film. You are Rappaport

1:28:22

all right. I told

1:28:24

you it was gonna be a good one. I'm out. What more

1:28:26

can I say? The Iron Rapports stereo pockets.

1:28:28

I want to thank my guest Billy Corbin.

1:28:30

Check out his film that is on video on demand

1:28:33

now, Screwball. He hasn't steered

1:28:35

you wrong yet. Guy makes great documentary

1:28:37

films, funny, very smart,

1:28:40

great filmmaker, good guy. Um

1:28:42

so much more? What can I say? The Iron Rappors

1:28:45

stereo pond Because we ain't going nowhere, same

1:28:47

place, same time, same ship,

1:28:50

talking disruptive channel Miles

1:28:52

Jordan's get me out here with something real nice, some

1:28:54

real proper, but most importantly, what you

1:28:57

know what it is? Some real funk. Distinct,

1:29:03

distinct, made to

1:29:05

distinct, made distinct,

1:29:08

made distinct,

1:29:11

made a distinct,