0:03

The I Am Rapp Reports Stereo

0:06

podcast Live and

0:09

you're down with Rapp Report. Yes

0:11

I am I'm a Rapperport. Yes,

0:14

I am am a Rapperport. Yes

0:16

I am a Rapperport. Yes

0:19

I am at a tune in. I Am rapp

0:21

Report dot com is every single podcast

0:24

you know, we drops bombs. I've seen him on set

0:26

a season vet with True Town. Catch him on his way

0:28

to course fit rocking the new Balance. He asked

0:30

me to do the track because you know I round the leak. But

0:32

I'm just waiting for the Robert the Nero line of

0:34

the week Rightface the Champions hosted Bagel,

0:37

Cream, Cheese and Lock. This is I Am Rapp

0:39

Report. The show never stopped. Might catch the Mountain

0:41

Public stretching his knees. But if you don't

0:43

listen to the show, Yo, we're gonna pleading. We're

0:47

gonna please. Or

0:50

podcast what's

0:52

up? This is Michael Rapport. You were now listening to a brand

0:54

new I Am Rappaport Stereo

0:57

podcast. Today we

0:59

are are deep diving and remembering,

1:02

Uh, somebody I was a fan of, somebody

1:05

I got to work with, and somebody who

1:07

became a friend. H John

1:09

Singleton, the director of Boys in the Hood,

1:12

and so much more has passed. I'm

1:14

gonna tell you uh all

1:16

my stories and opinions and thoughts on

1:19

getting to know him, getting to know him as

1:21

a fan, uh and inevitably working

1:23

with him on higher learning and

1:26

uh, you know my mini part on poetic

1:28

justice. Plus, uh, we're gonna

1:31

break down Shocking Avengers,

1:33

the Final Call. I think that's what it's called.

1:36

You know, I don't funk with these movies, so he brought in the

1:38

resident I Am Rapports Stereo podcast,

1:40

Marvel Movie Film Critic. Plus

1:43

we're talking rockets, we're talking warriors,

1:45

We're talking Celtics, We're talking Celtics,

1:48

We're talking Bucks, we're talking Raptors,

1:50

we're talking seventies sixers, we are talking

1:52

Denver Nuggets, and we are talking Dame Dollar

1:55

and the Trailblazers. NBA Playoffs

1:57

are here and they are fantastic. All

1:59

that more on a really good,

2:02

big body banging brand new

2:04

I Am wrapp Reports Stereo Podcasts, Miles

2:07

Jordan, let me get something real nice, Yes, something

2:09

real proper. You know what I mean, It's

2:11

something real funk. Let's go all

2:24

right, this is the

2:26

I M rapp Ports stereo podcast. My name

2:29

is Mike Rapport a K. The Grego Man Dingo

2:32

a k A The White Chocolateito a

2:34

K. White Mike a k A

2:37

Mr. New York AK Mr

2:40

a k A. UM,

2:43

be honest, be honest with the

2:45

listeners today. It's been a tough

2:48

day, um, but the

2:51

podcast must go on as

2:55

usual. UM. But if I'm gonna

2:57

be totally honest with all you guys,

2:59

this is a tough day, um,

3:02

because of the

3:05

passing of John

3:07

Singleton, um,

3:11

who passed today earlier

3:15

today, and he's been you know, struggling

3:17

and fighting for about a week or

3:19

so now. Um,

3:23

but it was a real blow for

3:27

me as a fan first

3:30

and then somebody

3:32

who I worked with and inevitably someone

3:34

who became a friend.

3:36

Uh two really sort of

3:38

wrap my head around that,

3:41

um and

3:44

uh. Later on in the episode, we're

3:46

gonna talk about

3:48

the Avengers. Now, you know that

3:52

I don't funk with Marvel

3:55

movies. I don't funk with

3:57

comic book movies. I don't funk with E

4:00

see, I don't funk with Game of Thrones.

4:03

Um, but we are bringing in special

4:06

Avengers Marvel movie

4:10

correspondent and one

4:12

of the I M Rapports stereo podcast.

4:14

Infamous Dust Brothers from the Dust

4:17

Brothers production Miles

4:19

Davis and Jordan Winter. Jordan

4:21

Winter, who, as it turns

4:24

out, and I didn't know this about himuntil a couple

4:26

of days ago, is an Avengers

4:29

Marvel comic Marvel movie

4:32

nerd, a fucking

4:34

nerd. I called him on Friday

4:37

while he uh was in the movie

4:39

theory said, I'm in the movie theater watching Avengers. I

4:41

was like Jesus Christ. He like snapped at me, like,

4:44

dude, don't don't answer the phone, dude. Um.

4:47

And then when he got out, he just went on and

4:49

on and on and on. He was like,

4:52

I know didn't go. You don't like these movies,

4:54

but I gotta tell you it was

4:56

a cinematic experience, and

4:58

it was a cultural experien and she's going on

5:01

and on, and I'm like, bro, I

5:03

don't give a fuck about

5:05

what you're talking about. But you're so

5:07

passionate and so enthusiastic

5:09

about these films

5:11

and why they're good and what they mean

5:14

to you and the cinematic experience

5:16

you went and had seeing

5:18

the final Avengers movie, or so

5:21

they say, the final because because I

5:24

listen, it doesn't seem like it's ever gonna stop. These

5:26

are billion, literally billion

5:28

dollar of films. This is a

5:30

billion dollar industry, these Marvel and DC

5:33

films. So later on in the show, Um,

5:36

Jordan Winter a k one of the Dust

5:38

brothers. You know, as go Miles, Jordan,

5:40

give me something real, nice, real proper that Jordan

5:43

is coming on the show to speak

5:45

on the Avengers final chapter.

5:48

Um, and break that down his whole experience.

5:50

Why it's good. His takeaways very

5:52

thorough, very detailed, I

5:54

mean, very enthusiastic, with no spoilers.

5:58

We will not be doing any boilers.

6:00

Uh, Lashawn McCoy, You fuck shady

6:03

McCoy. The running back, he went on Twitter

6:05

and gave all sorts of spoilers after he saw

6:07

the movie. I don't give a funk about these movies.

6:09

But imagine you go to see Creed Too

6:12

and you get spoilers. Fuck you, Lashawn

6:14

McCoy, selfish cocksucker you. Um,

6:16

so we're not gonna have any spoilers show. Do not

6:19

worry. No spoilers will

6:21

be given. We're also gonna talk

6:23

about, of course, the NBA playoffs and

6:26

um some other

6:28

things. Um, listen, it was I had

6:30

a bunch of stuff. I'm gonna see how how I'm

6:32

feeling. But this was a tough day

6:35

um for me um with the John Singleton

6:38

passing, Um, because his

6:40

passing obviously made me sad for

6:43

him and his family and his

6:45

daughters. UM,

6:48

but it also made me sad for me,

6:51

and it really conjured up a lot of memories

6:54

of my fandom of first

6:57

when I saw Boys in the Hood in one

7:01

and it was a phenomenon. That

7:03

was when smaller movies would

7:06

be phenomenons and and some of those

7:08

are obviously Spike Lee, She's

7:10

Gotta have It, um,

7:12

John Singleton's Boys

7:14

in the Hood, Quentin Tarantinos,

7:17

Reservoir Dogs. This is when smaller

7:20

movies would get made and they

7:22

would supersede all

7:24

your expectations. Sex Lies and Videotaped

7:28

was another small indie movie that

7:30

went really big at the time, UM,

7:34

directed by Steven Soderberg, his

7:36

first film. But when Boys in the

7:38

Hood came out, it

7:40

was a fucking blockbuster, UM.

7:44

And I just wanted to talk to you about that and

7:46

and talked to you about then meeting

7:48

him and then talked about working with him, and just

7:51

really some of the stuff I might have tipped

7:53

on in other podcasts, But I just wanted to give you the full

7:55

John Singleton because it's so fresh in my head

7:58

and and there's so many great stories anecdotes

8:00

and about that time, you

8:02

know, I saw Boys in the Hood in the theater. Like everybody

8:04

else, I heard about it, um

8:07

before I saw it. You know, it'd gotten

8:09

so much excitement. It was at the Con Film Festival.

8:12

I remember seeing this picture of

8:14

John Singleton and ice Cube at

8:17

the Con Film Festival in France, and I

8:19

was like, how the fund did ice Cube get

8:22

to conin Like what the funk? Because obviously

8:24

ice Cube at the time was like this. He

8:27

was like this sort of mystery

8:30

bad guy. You didn't know anything about him. There

8:32

was no social media, you know, he had left n

8:34

w A and all this stuff.

8:37

Um. And and you just didn't

8:39

see black people at the Con Film Festival.

8:42

That's just the truth. There was no black filmmakers.

8:44

It was Spike Lee and then literally John

8:46

Singleton, um.

8:49

And then I saw the film, and like everybody else,

8:51

I was blown away. It was like an

8:53

entire new world. Obviously,

8:56

Colors had come out a few years before,

8:58

and Colors has some some great moments. It's not

9:01

a great film, it has some insight

9:03

into that world. But Boys

9:05

in the Hood brought this cinematic

9:10

reality about this group

9:12

of kids and their family

9:15

and really what life

9:18

was like for some people growing up

9:21

in South Central And

9:24

obviously the performances

9:27

were star making,

9:30

I mean Cuba Gooding, Cuba Gooding Jr.

9:33

Star He'd never stopped

9:35

working after Boys in the

9:37

Hood, beginning, middle

9:39

and end. He was launched in

9:43

Boys in the Hood. Morris Chestnut launched

9:47

Boys in the Hood. Nia Long,

9:50

beautiful, great iconic actress,

9:52

Nia Long launched by Boys in the

9:54

Hood. Lawrence Fishburn.

9:57

Let us not forget Lawrence Fishburn was in a pocolypse

10:00

now. He had was in Cornbread,

10:03

Earl and me Um as a kid

10:05

actor. And when he was doing before

10:08

he had done Boys and that, he did King in New

10:10

York. He had a good part in King of New York. He

10:12

was on Peewee's Big Playhouse.

10:14

He was on Pee Wee Herman's TV

10:16

show. No disrespect to Pee Wee Herman.

10:19

But one of the great actors of our

10:21

time now, Lawrence Fishburn, Larry

10:24

Fishburn. At the time he was just Larry Fishburn,

10:27

but went on to Academy

10:29

Award nominations and and is literally considered

10:32

one of the great actors of his

10:34

generation. With the

10:36

uh John Malkovich's, the Samuel

10:39

Jackson's, the John Taturos, the Sean Penn's,

10:41

the Denzel's, He's in that category

10:44

of wait, he needs no introduction.

10:47

But before Boys in the Hood,

10:49

he was on a Peewee Herman TV

10:52

show doing some rinky dinky

10:54

ship. John Singleton understood

10:57

his talent. He wrote the

10:59

Paul Art of Furious Styles, Cuba

11:02

Gooding's character his father

11:05

for Lawrence Fishburn.

11:08

By pure diligence,

11:10

pure uh gut uh,

11:13

pure strength, pure persistence,

11:15

pure talent and just the guy

11:17

who was meant to be a filmmaker. He was able

11:19

to get Lawrence Fishburn in the film again, and

11:22

it wasn't that big of an accomplishment because Fishburn

11:24

wasn't Fishburn that we know now. Um

11:27

ice Cube in the film

11:30

one of the first times. I mean, he

11:32

was so good in that film, and it

11:34

was one of the there'd have been other rappers that had been

11:36

in other films of colors, had Iced

11:39

Tea. I believe Iced Tea was in that

11:41

Um He was definitely a new Jack City.

11:43

But the way John Singleton

11:46

used ice Cube was perfection

11:50

to play the part of dough Boy, and

11:52

he had him be tough, he had him be hood,

11:54

but he also had him be very human and

11:57

ultimately very vulnerable when

11:59

he articulated one of the most iconic

12:01

lines in cinema history. If you

12:03

look at top a hundred quotes in

12:06

films, the line that ice

12:08

Cube says, uh to Cuba

12:10

Gooding and

12:13

he says, you know, they don't know, don't

12:16

show or don't care about what's going

12:18

on in the hood. Matter of fact, Miles,

12:20

please play that clip, that scene a

12:23

little bit longer than that line, but play

12:25

that line. It gives you chills every

12:27

time you see it. And

12:29

being up to sailing a long time. Turned

12:37

on the TV this morning, I

12:42

had to shut on about about

12:45

living in a violent, a violent

12:47

world. Shout

12:51

all these foreign places fun

12:55

is living on? Started

13:00

thinking, man, either

13:04

they don't know, Tom

13:08

show, I

13:12

don't can't about what's going on in the hood. Regina

13:14

King, she was on two to seven.

13:18

That character that she played, um

13:20

that Hucci dukie braid

13:23

attitude, Uh girl

13:26

never been on screen before he

13:29

introduced that that that character, that girl

13:32

that is so common attitude

13:34

Black Girlhood, Gum Smacking

13:37

Chick. That was John

13:39

Singleton, that was Boys in the Hood. That was

13:41

Regina king Um

13:44

and the way he used rappers

13:47

in his films throughout the years.

13:49

Poetic Justice, Uh

13:52

q Tip is in the opening

13:54

scene. I believe at one point

13:56

he was talking about having q Tip played

13:59

the the two upac roll. But

14:01

he loved rappers and he saw them as actors,

14:03

and he saw them and he got them as stars.

14:06

He didn't treat them like rappers. Bust

14:08

the rhymes in higher learning Snoop

14:11

Dogg and baby Boy um and

14:14

so forth and so on, And I

14:16

want to stay on Boys in the Hood. But

14:19

Boys in the Hood was a phenomenon. It got

14:21

now he got nominated for Best Director UM.

14:24

And you know, there was a lot of talk that ice Cube should

14:27

have gotten nominated. There was a lot of talk that Cuba Gooding

14:29

should have got nominated. There's a lot of talk to Morris Chestnut.

14:31

They didn't get nominated, UM, but

14:34

it was it was a big fucking deal with

14:36

that Academy Awards to have Boys in the Hood

14:38

be represented. It's a hood movie

14:41

with ice Cube that was

14:43

told honestly and cinematically,

14:45

and it was a fucking game changer. Um

14:48

And I got to meet John about

14:51

a year and some change after

14:53

Boys in the Hood came out. He had seen

14:56

zebra Head and I met him.

14:59

I hadn't and anything I had done, I hadn't

15:01

done true romance yet. Um. I

15:05

the first a D was a black first d D,

15:07

which is another thing that John Singleton. He

15:09

was big on having black crew members, big

15:11

on having black a d s, black

15:14

set people and at the time that it wasn't

15:16

common. Again, him and Spike were

15:18

big on this and they were they had big mouths about

15:20

it and and they were very passionate

15:23

about having a more multi cultural

15:26

sets. And the first day D from zebra

15:28

Head was the first day D from Boys in the Hood

15:30

and um and he was also the first

15:32

day D from Poetic Justice. And I

15:35

got to meet John when he was casting

15:37

Poetic Justice. He had seen zebra

15:39

Head. I was flipping out that I'm as

15:41

meeting John Singleton because he was a star director.

15:43

He was all over the press

15:46

and you know, he was just such a big

15:48

push for him and I swear to god,

15:50

he was like, you know, I'm a fan.

15:53

I saw your movie. You're really good. You know, we

15:55

talked, and you know, there

15:57

was He said, there's nothing for you in this film.

15:59

I don't have any parts. He goes, there's one mailman,

16:02

but it's not even a good

16:04

part. It's not a good enough part for you. I would love to

16:07

work with you someday, uh, you know, and do

16:09

something great, something that you know that you

16:11

could sink your teeth in. And I was like, I'll do anything.

16:14

I literally said that, I'll do anything in I'll do craft

16:17

service, I'll do anything. He

16:19

said, really, man, let let me think about it. Let

16:21

me think about it. It was nothing part.

16:23

The part was written as two or three lines. It doesn't

16:25

have a name. The part's name is the Mailman Um

16:28

and it's in silhouette that the

16:30

scene is shot in silhouette. You hear my voice

16:32

before you see me. It's over before you fucking

16:34

realize that it's me, the gringo man dingle A

16:37

k Michael rappaport Um. But

16:39

there was so much excitement about Poetic

16:41

Justice, There was so much excitement about

16:43

Tupac. There was so much excitement

16:46

about Janet Jackson, who at the time was

16:48

popping and she was at her apex,

16:51

she was at the she was the queen. There was no Beyonce.

16:53

She was the Queen of R and B. She

16:56

was you know, she was. She was

16:58

popping um and And

17:00

I got a call from my age and a couple of days later, is

17:02

like, John wants you to be in this little part. I was like, where

17:05

and when? Where and when

17:07

I'm down, I want to be in it.

17:09

I was thrilled. I was on it. I was like I

17:12

made I didn't give a funk that there was no

17:14

lines. I'm working with John Singleton and

17:16

Poetic Justice, and I have, you know, two

17:18

line exchange with Tupac um

17:21

And And that day I got to the set and

17:24

I still have the call sheet. I actually still

17:26

have the call sheet from that day.

17:28

You know, working with Tupac was exciting. It wasn't

17:31

very eventful. We didn't have like some big exchange.

17:33

It was boom boom, boom boo boom. He was tripping

17:35

out over my enthusiasm about doing

17:37

a small part. I remember him,

17:40

he was like, damn, you're like that that that that that

17:42

that that that that that that that that that that that

17:44

He said that. I literally remember

17:47

him saying that, like you know, you're coming on to

17:49

try to steal the scene, but not in a disrespectful

17:51

way or dissing me. He was just like, you're going for

17:53

it. I was like, Yeah, I'm going for it, you know. For him, it was just

17:55

a tiny little scene to get to another scene

17:57

in this big movie where he's working

18:00

every single day. But I was like, I was fucking

18:02

kid in the candy store. And my best

18:04

story about working on Poetic Justice,

18:06

if you could even call it working on it, because it was truly

18:09

a bit part. It's the smallest part I've ever had in a

18:11

movie. Okay, and I had already done

18:13

zebra Head, I started a movie, and I had done a

18:16

bigger part in another movie called I

18:18

Can't Remember I'm All fucked Up Today.

18:21

But I was that excited about doing it. But the

18:23

the coolest part about working on Poetic

18:25

Justice was the

18:28

the table read and the rap party. The table

18:30

read where the entire cast shows

18:32

up to read and

18:35

the entire entire cast being Tupac, fucking

18:38

Joe Tory, Regina King, Janet

18:41

Jackson, and and and there's dope people

18:43

in Poetic Justice. Rewatch Poetic

18:46

Justice. It's a fucking really good movie

18:48

with a lot of heart. In Tupac kills it Regina

18:51

King kills it. There's a lot of dope shit about

18:53

that movie. It didn't live up to the expectations

18:55

in the hype of Boys in the Hood. But

18:58

nothing could have nothing could. But

19:00

it was a good movie. It was received well. It was a box

19:02

office success. Um. But the

19:04

table read, I literally, God

19:06

is my witness, was the first person

19:08

to show up there. I got there. I got in this big

19:10

room, I believe, at the Sony lot. I

19:13

was the first one there. I was so fucking

19:15

excited. And they have place

19:18

cards for everybody, like

19:20

everybody's name, So it had Janet Jackson, Tupac,

19:22

Regina King, Joe Tory, this one,

19:24

that one, this one, and minds at the very end

19:26

of the table. I'm at the total the other

19:28

end with like all the other small parts. I moved

19:31

my fucking card to the other end because I was like, I want to

19:33

been at the cool table. I want to be next to Janet

19:35

Jackson. I want to fucking smell Janet Jackson.

19:39

And uh, I remember q Tip who

19:41

is in Poet Justice, Like I said, he wasn't

19:43

available. Uh to be at that

19:45

reading. Because this is when Tropical Quest was banging,

19:47

banging, popping, popping um

19:51

and they were the reading was there, and Janet came

19:53

and Tupac came and it was like a fucking party.

19:55

And it it lasted like two and a half hours and there was

19:57

food and people were laughing and everybody

19:59

was laughing and all the scenes and it

20:01

was like, Yo, I'm a part of something special.

20:04

I'm a part of uh,

20:07

something that people are gonna remember. I'm a part of

20:09

something that it's significant.

20:13

Um And and I you know, at

20:15

the at the end, I got invited to the rap party which

20:17

was in the Hood, and I

20:19

went down there. I probably was the first motherfucker

20:21

there. And I've told this story before. UM

20:24

at the Poetic Justice rap party,

20:27

UM, and ice Cube was there, and Tupac

20:30

was there, and Regina King was

20:32

there, and a bunch of other people were there.

20:35

But I got to meet Snoop Doggie

20:37

Dog for the first time. Snoop

20:39

had just come out, Um

20:41

Doggies Style hadn't come out. I'm not sure

20:43

if the chronic had come out, but Deep Cover

20:46

was out and Snoop

20:48

Dog was it and

20:50

he was hood as fuck. And

20:53

I'll just repeat the story one more time. I

20:55

went up to him. He knew who I was

20:57

and I was like, yeah, I'm a big fan up

21:00

with you, love your ship. And he was

21:02

like, you're from New York, right, And I said, yeah, we fucking

21:04

love you in New York. And he said they

21:06

like me in New York. They know about me New York. I said, fuck

21:08

here and he said I've never been there.

21:10

I haven't been there yet. And I remember being like, oh

21:13

shit. And then a few minutes later, Um

21:15

Tupac and his little crew uh

21:18

started rhyming on the mic, and then Snoop Dogg

21:20

and his little crew started rhyming on the mic, and

21:23

uh, they were like, you know, battling. It

21:25

was. It wasn't like fight tense, but

21:27

it was like I know who you are. You

21:29

know who am I who I am. Let's

21:31

get on this mic and let's let's battle it out.

21:34

And and it wasn't like there was a winner and loser, but they

21:36

were going back and forth. And I

21:38

watched Tupac. I saw it with my

21:40

own eyes. I watched Tupac

21:43

meet Snoop Dogg at the Poetic

21:46

Justice rat party

21:48

and then when I was on Snoop doggs g G and you

21:50

could hear the rest of the story that was

21:52

The first night that Snoop

21:54

Dog ever smoked a blunt

21:57

was the night that he met Tupac

21:59

at the Poetic Justice rap party.

22:02

And I was right fucking there.

22:04

And then I took this picture with which has been

22:07

posted a lot, and I posted it again and

22:09

and it was gonna be just Ice Cube, John Singleton

22:11

in Tupac, and I kind of squeezed my way into it, and

22:13

John was like, get in here, Mike, get in

22:15

here, and I'm in

22:17

that picture and I and I've been I've

22:19

been photographed and got my

22:21

picture taking for years, but I remember being

22:23

like, yo, you gotta get in the least one snap

22:26

of of these pictures, because you know it's

22:28

Tupac, John Singleton, and

22:30

Ice Cube and that picture of

22:33

of the four of us is at the Poetic Justice rap

22:35

party. And again I remember feeling like,

22:38

yo, this is this is gonna go down

22:40

in history. I swear I remember

22:42

feeling like that, you gotta be in this picture. And

22:44

sure enough, you know that picture is resurfaced.

22:47

And what a fucking cool

22:49

night, what a cool memory. And I

22:51

remember just Tupac

22:54

dancing with everybody friendly, dancing with

22:56

Regina king Uh, dancing

22:58

with just everybody was just so friendly and cool

23:00

and excited, and it was just such an exciting time.

23:03

And then I wind up um

23:06

working with John on Higher Learning, and

23:09

and I talked about this before, UM,

23:12

but I'm gonna talk about it again because it's

23:14

important to me and it's important to remember

23:16

this guy. Um. The original cast

23:19

of Higher Learning was Tupac

23:21

in the Omar Epps part as

23:23

Malik. Leonardo

23:26

DiCaprio was gonna play my

23:28

part of Remy Leonardo fucking

23:30

DiCaprio. Gwyneth

23:32

Paltrow was gonna play the Jennifer

23:35

Conley part. I remember

23:37

going out to dinner me, Gwyneth

23:39

Paltrow and John Singleton UM,

23:42

and inevitably Gwyneth Paltrow

23:44

pulled out. I think she got the movie seven

23:47

and her dates were fucked up. And then Leonardo

23:50

uh dropped out and and I

23:53

I started campaigning straight the funk

23:55

up. I started campaign And this is before email,

23:57

this is before text. I

23:59

called John. I was like, yo, you

24:01

know, I heard Leonardo's out. I

24:04

think I could play. Remedy was like, really, you think you could

24:07

do? And I was like, yeah, I could do. He's asking me about my New

24:09

York accident. I said I'll lose it. I'll

24:11

lose it. He was like, all right, let me think about

24:13

it. Let me think about it. Um. And then during

24:15

that casting process, tupac Um

24:18

had been getting into so much trouble and it

24:20

came down that he couldn't get the movie

24:23

finance. They couldn't get insurance. You know,

24:25

films have insurance, and the

24:27

studio Sony Pictures wouldn't ensure

24:29

the film with Tupac in

24:31

it because he had gotten arrested and I don't

24:33

know the dates in the time of all this, Um,

24:36

then he cast all our epps, and I kept

24:38

staying on him. I want to play I want to play Remy. I

24:40

want to play Remy. And he said, coming in,

24:43

UM, read for me, coming in and read lines to me. So

24:45

I went into the auditioned for John tore

24:48

it up. And then a few days later he

24:50

would call me like we would speak on the phone. Um.

24:52

He said, you know, come in and read. I'm gonna have

24:54

ice Cube come down, coming and read. You gotta

24:57

talk that ship to ice Cube. But what he meant by talked

24:59

that ship to ice Cube, all that racial

25:01

ship that that we were doing in the movie, all that Remy

25:03

stuff, all and we're this and you

25:05

know all that crazy ship that's in higher

25:08

learning. He was like, do that in front

25:10

of ice Cube. And this is when ice Cube was

25:12

not like family friendly ice

25:14

Cube. This is ice Cube, like fucking

25:17

you know, America's most wanted

25:20

you know, ice Cube. N w a ice Cube

25:22

Like you're like, what the funk? It's ice

25:24

Cube, Like you know, he's a little pudgy ice Cube.

25:27

And I went down to Sony and I read all

25:29

the scenes with ice Cube and we improv

25:31

and ice Cube read Omar Eps's

25:33

part because that part had him in cast.

25:36

They fucking didn't cast a part. So ice Cube read

25:38

that and he was like, do this, do that? Do

25:40

that stuff you were doing. He was basically saying, Cole

25:43

ice Cube a fucking you know

25:45

this and that. And I was like, you know, this

25:47

is my chance, this is my opportunity

25:50

to really become an actor, to really

25:52

play a part that's different from me. This is what

25:54

every young actor dreams of. And

25:57

and I did it. I went full fucking tilt.

26:00

And I remember John laughing. He

26:03

always thought that racial ship that

26:05

I was doing was so funny. He would laugh

26:08

and he would like giggle and he would like literally

26:10

applaud. He'd be like, oh shit, like glad. He would

26:12

clap and um

26:15

Cube not so much. He didn't laugh at it so

26:17

much. He he was intimidating.

26:19

It was like fucking ice Cube. Um.

26:22

And he had the little fro, the frow that he wound

26:24

up having in Higher Learning, because remember he went through

26:26

that little fro period. Um.

26:28

And then um he cast me, and

26:31

then I helped him recast the part

26:33

that I was gonna play, and all sorts

26:35

of people came in and read for that part. An inevitably,

26:37

Kohlhauser got the part

26:40

and we shot Higher Learning and it was a

26:42

fucking thrill. Busta Rhymes

26:45

was on the set ice Cube, Regina

26:47

King, Omar epps Um,

26:50

John Singleton was directing me. I

26:52

mean, I couldn't believe it. I was like

26:55

I made it. I literally felt like I

26:57

fucking like I made it. Like

27:00

this is it and I'm playing this fucking character.

27:02

I'm a real actor doing a real part that's

27:04

really not like me. This is nothing like

27:07

me. And I had prepared. We had a few months

27:09

to prepare, and I'm reading mind comf and watching

27:11

these fucking KKK documentaries

27:14

and um, it was just an

27:17

awesome experience. I talked a lot about it

27:19

when Omar episodes on the Iron Wrap pors Stereo

27:22

podcast. You could listen to the Omar Reps Iron Wrap

27:24

pors Stereo podcast. It's dope. And

27:26

I'll tell you a story when when we did

27:29

that scene where I pulled the gun

27:31

out on Omar Reps, that was one of the first

27:33

scenes that I shot. It was certainly

27:35

the first scene where my character was

27:38

saying racist stuff. Um,

27:41

it may not have been my first scene that I shot shot,

27:43

but it was definitely. I remember the first scene.

27:45

It was in the dorm room, which we shot

27:47

at U c l A. Even though John Singleton went

27:49

to USC. I remember that was a whole little minor

27:51

controversy. And we

27:54

started doing that scene and we started um

27:56

shooting that scene and

27:59

when I pulled the gun out

28:01

on Omar Epps and

28:04

I started calling the Malik and

28:06

most of the stuff wand up in the film

28:08

and some of it did it and I'm going

28:10

off the script and I'm riffing and

28:13

I'm saying you and we're this, you,

28:15

this, that and the other, and we're going

28:17

I'm going off like

28:19

I had been preparing to do this scene

28:23

and to do this part for

28:25

months, and I was focused on this scene. It's

28:27

a key scene and it's a key

28:29

part, and I was fucking I

28:31

was ready to rock. And and I did

28:34

the first take and I'm fucking

28:36

let Omar have it. I was saying, wild ship

28:39

cut. I

28:42

mean, it was silent, and then John

28:44

Singleton was like this, clapping,

28:47

hell yeah, hell yeah, that's what I'm

28:49

talking about, clapping for me, came,

28:51

hugged me, gave me five, and

28:54

it was just on in popping. Like

28:56

I I felt so confident. I was

28:58

so proud of myself, and I was so just

29:02

excited to be a part of it and

29:04

excited to work with a filmmaker that was

29:07

so excited to have me there.

29:09

And I felt like I would run through a fucking

29:11

wall for him and we would

29:13

do it again and do it again. And the whole

29:16

filming and the whole shoot

29:18

of that film was just it

29:21

was like that. And he was so enthusiastic

29:23

with all the actors. He loved

29:25

his actors, he loved his DP. I

29:27

mean I used to go to his house. I mean,

29:29

listen Raging Bull. Probably

29:32

one of the only people who would sit and watch

29:34

Raging Bull and break it down, beat

29:36

for beat with me, anytime, any

29:38

place. But he loved all film. He loved animation,

29:42

he loved kids films, He studied film,

29:44

he loved foreign films. He loves Steven

29:46

Spielberg. He loved film, he loved

29:48

actors, he loved music, he loved

29:51

art, and he loved most importantly the

29:53

artist. I mean when you were on his set

29:55

and you were kicking ask for him, he was literally

29:58

he he applauded me. He would have I

30:00

never had a director do that applaud on set,

30:03

and you literally felt like, yo, we could keep

30:05

going all night because he made you feel

30:07

so excited to be there and

30:09

and and and so confident, and he would give you direction

30:12

and try this, to try that, and he just,

30:15

you know, at that young age and being so new

30:17

to acting and having this opportunity to work

30:19

with someone who I was so hyped to work

30:21

with and who just had gotten an Oscar nomination

30:24

for Best Director, and to give me

30:26

a New York I was, you know, you think I

30:28

talked that New York ship. Now When

30:30

I was twenty three twenty four, when we did

30:32

Higher Learning, I was, you

30:34

know, I'm Mr New York Now. I was on

30:37

some other ship, for

30:39

him to give me that opportunity,

30:41

for him to believe in me, and

30:44

for him to give me that shot, and

30:46

and to remain in my life. You know, like that

30:48

dude was it was. It was a a guy

30:51

who he would check in on. You know, what's up, Mike?

30:53

Out of nowhere? How are you doing? You

30:55

know? He he was so supportive of me directing

30:57

and me doing the trip called Quest movie,

31:00

and when are you gonna direct again? You have to direct

31:02

again? When are you gonna direct again? And when I

31:04

saw him a few weeks ago, I saw him with

31:06

the Young Shooter. He came to see me do comedy,

31:08

Tell me about my comedy. Laugh, and you gotta do

31:10

this, you gotta do that. You can't guy did

31:13

some Michael Jackson jokes. He was like, no, people

31:15

are ready for Michael Jackson jokes yet, because

31:17

I was talking about Michael Jackson. But he just you

31:19

know, do this and people love you and just so

31:22

enthusiastic and made you feel so fucking

31:24

good about yourself and so confident, and

31:27

and when are you gonna direct again? Come see me on

31:29

the set. He's on the talking about the

31:31

going In the season three of the of the show on

31:34

FX Snowfall and ah,

31:37

Man, just a good dude, you know, just a

31:39

good dude. And Uh, I'm sorry to ramble

31:41

on about it. And I wanted to talk about all this other

31:43

stuff and we could talk about it the other podcast later

31:46

this week. Um, but what a good

31:49

dude. Um. And later this week

31:51

we we got Bunby in the house,

31:54

the Triple O G Trill O G

31:56

the guy Yo, one

31:59

of the reasons why the word trill should probably

32:01

be in the dictionary. And Statics

32:03

Selector. They're talking

32:05

about the new record Trill Static,

32:07

which I love. Uh. Bun talks about working

32:10

with jay Z, what that was like,

32:12

working with metha man, what that process

32:15

was like, and just dope ass stories. You

32:17

know, he campaigned sort of for Bernie Sanders,

32:19

he covered the Republican Party in

32:22

the two thousand and sixteen election. Dope

32:24

hit pop stories from him and Statics Selector,

32:27

working with Sean Price, working

32:29

with NAS and it's just a hip hop

32:31

lover's dream. Um.

32:33

And I'll be back to talking ship and ranting. I

32:35

hope, uh, I hope it's not disappointing.

32:38

I it's just been a fucking a

32:40

tough loss. Uh.

32:42

And a tough day to hear that. And

32:45

and when you when you find out about someone who's just fifty

32:47

one and just such a good dude, And

32:50

and when you when I think back on

32:52

my life as a actor, my adult

32:54

life, and my professional life, this

32:57

dude gave me the opportunity of a

32:59

lie of time and the opportunity

33:02

of a career. And um,

33:05

it just conjured up a lot of feelings and a lot of

33:07

memories, and um, you

33:09

know, Rewatch Bois in the Hood, Rewatch poetic

33:12

Justice, Rewatch baby Boy.

33:14

He he broke Taraji and

33:17

um, you know that's it. I'm

33:20

I'm gonna shut it down. We got

33:22

Jordan's uh coming in a minute.

33:25

Uh, the Resident Avengers. Uh.

33:27

Marvel Comics nerd breaks

33:30

down, loves the movie. I'm gonna see

33:32

how many thumbs up he's gonna give it. And

33:34

uh, I'm gonna talk to some NBA playoffs, Miles.

33:37

Let me get a little something real nice here, or something real

33:39

proper to take a little quick breather, a little

33:41

breath hopeless isn't too emotional.

33:44

Uh, And then we'll get into the review of Avengers

33:46

and game ones of the second

33:49

round series so far, which has been great,

33:51

and I need James Harden to stop that flop and

33:53

stay with me. I'll be right back all

34:09

right. So, as I said earlier, Um,

34:13

resident Avengers

34:17

Marvel comic film

34:20

critic Jordan Winter

34:22

of the Dust Brothers Dust Brothers

34:24

Production is going to join

34:27

me now to discuss his experience,

34:30

his history, his fandom

34:33

with the Avengers films. As

34:35

you know, I don't funk with these movies.

34:39

I believe I saw Iron Man

34:41

with my kids when it first came out, and

34:43

I know for sure I

34:47

fell asleep during the movie. No disrespect

34:50

to Robert Downey Jr. Or any

34:52

of the great actors and filmmakers that have

34:54

been a part of of any of

34:56

these Marvel and DC films.

34:58

I don't funk with it. But I spoke

35:01

to Jordan Winter, who went day one,

35:04

uh to see Avengers, and

35:06

he wouldn't shut up. He wouldn't

35:08

stop. He was going on and on and on, and

35:10

I said, you know what, we need to represent

35:13

the Avengers. I can't do it because,

35:15

like I said, I don't funk with these films.

35:18

So, uh, Mr Winter, Um,

35:21

First, how

35:23

was the Avengers? What is the Avengers finale?

35:25

Avengers dead End? What is it? Pleasure

35:28

to be here. Avengers end the game, Avengers

35:30

end Game, Avengers end Game. Now you

35:33

you were you just wouldn't stop. You were going

35:35

on and on and on. What's

35:37

so good about the movie? What did you love about the movie?

35:39

What were you you? I mean, you talked about it

35:41

is not just being a great movie. It was a

35:43

great cinematic experience, cultural

35:46

experience. And after you went on and

35:48

on about this, I saw on Twitter other

35:50

people were saying the similar type

35:52

of things. It wasn't just a great movie. It

35:55

was a whole sort of experience. Speak

35:57

on it. Absolutely,

35:59

they was a very special experience

36:02

that I had to go see

36:04

it day one, which was

36:06

the Friday. I didn't go for the pre screenings.

36:09

I went Friday afternoon, and

36:11

I had to go because these

36:14

jose ain't loyal out here on

36:16

Twitter, the snitches. Oh

36:19

Sean McCoy, Oh, I didn't even see

36:21

Leshaw McCoy because I strayed up, abandoned

36:24

all of my social media

36:27

because you started hearing about people giving away

36:29

the film. I knew I had to do it

36:31

because I started seeing people who I

36:34

respect and admire and follow on

36:36

social media who went to the premiere

36:38

fucked up that we started talking about

36:40

it given their whack ass ship. I mean, you

36:42

could give your opinion the premiere was great. I don't

36:44

have a problem with that, but when you start giving away

36:47

anecdotes from the movie, you're on some bullshit.

36:50

It is the type of thing that for

36:52

me. Last year, I went to the

36:54

same theater and saw Avengers

36:57

Infinity War, and I saw it not

36:59

on the Friday, on the Saturday, and

37:01

word hadn't gotten out about even though it was a

37:03

huge opening experience

37:06

the movie. The box office was

37:08

the all time greatest for

37:10

Avengers Infinity War, but

37:13

was smashed by Endgame. I want to talk

37:15

a little bit about that too, But

37:18

you know, I was seeing a

37:20

lot of discussion and I'm not I'm

37:22

the type of person I don't really

37:24

care for film critics, so

37:27

for us for our purposes, I

37:29

am the non fact checking film

37:32

critic who does not

37:34

care for film critics. My mother

37:37

loves film critics, and she'll always try to tell

37:39

me about her favorite film critics and

37:41

what they thought about the movie. I say,

37:43

I need to have my own opinion,

37:46

right, I get it and my own thoughts and my own

37:48

experiences, and that comes from me

37:50

as a pure fan

37:52

of cinema. And I want to preface this to

37:54

all the fans out there, because you know, I've seen a

37:57

lot of articles and a lot of YouTube

37:59

videos and such. I am coming at this

38:02

from someone who has seen

38:04

all the movies and has

38:06

the Avengers movies, every Marvel movie that's

38:09

been creating a fan. I'm a fan, but

38:11

I have not read a single word

38:13

of the comic books. I'm

38:16

not one of these types of people who is looking

38:18

at this like, oh, this character, they've

38:20

only been in this movie and in

38:23

this in this episode of the comic book and

38:25

this chat. Right, You're just a fan

38:27

of movies. But your hard body, karate hard

38:29

body. I've seen every single one of these movies

38:31

in theaters and have seen

38:34

them at least two other

38:36

times at home. Sometimes

38:39

I don't know about you. I love judging

38:41

you. I love these movies, and listen,

38:43

this is just the box that I've been put into

38:45

any But I know I'm in the minority. So when

38:48

I when I'm judging you, I know that i'm

38:50

judging myself because I know there's tons of

38:52

fans out there that not only

38:54

watch Avengers, they watch Game of Thrones. You

38:56

we know where I stand on this, So let's just get

38:58

to this. What is your takeaway on

39:01

Avengers. What is it Avengers end

39:03

game? Dingo, Yes, Avengers endgame,

39:06

Avengers endgame, and please refer to

39:08

it as Avengers Anger. Okay, you can't just say Avengers

39:10

no, no no, no, because there is a there is an Avengers

39:13

film the thing that really you

39:15

can offended what I say Avengers a little bit. I'm

39:17

a little offended, but that's okay. And just

39:19

no hashtag Avengers and game. Hashtag

39:22

Avengers and game. No spoilers.

39:24

I'm very much not going to spoil

39:27

either. I am going to speak you're not

39:30

spoilers. I'm not giving spoilers because

39:32

come on, what if you worked over the weekends?

39:34

I know people who were.

39:37

And also, don't even get me started on the

39:39

Game of Thrones snitches out

39:41

there, you know. And I'm not someone

39:43

who really has seen a ton of the Game

39:46

of Thrones, but I've seen enough that I know what's

39:48

going on, and I did watch last night, but

39:50

like immediately after

39:53

the I don't get why people wanted to ending

39:55

on the East Coast. There's memes going up

39:57

in videos like you know what happened with me

39:59

and Aim of Thrones last night, I was trying

40:02

to go to see my wife was watching that fucking

40:04

ship and I had a pillow on my

40:06

one side of my head and then covering my head with the other side

40:08

of the pillow, and I still couldn't sleep

40:10

through the fucking I don't know what it was, lightning,

40:12

thunder vibrations, It's

40:15

just I was just like, why would anyone watch

40:17

loud fucking ship and it was

40:20

so dark, and they whatever the funking

40:22

is, It kept me fucking up. It extended

40:24

my my tossing and turning ends.

40:27

So for me who went to go see Avengers

40:29

Endgame day one screening

40:33

one ish because I got there and

40:35

people right you were there early. I was

40:37

there early. I made sure that all

40:39

responsibilities were taken care of. And

40:42

you even called me during the movie. I know you

40:44

you you hit me back, y'a. I'm made adventures, Like you don't

40:46

even have to say, yo, I'm made adventures. Don't just don't pick

40:48

up the phone. But gun, So

40:51

I had to see it then, and

40:54

I think that this is going to be the type of movie that

40:56

people will be seeing multiple times in

40:58

theaters. I know I be seeing

41:00

it again in theaters and for

41:02

me, I got to see it in a sold

41:05

out screening, which was

41:08

phenomenal. People cheering, people

41:10

screaming, the way that movies were

41:12

meant to be made. And you say, you look at

41:15

me, and you say like, oh, like I'm judging

41:17

you. This is how I've been

41:19

made. Look at how

41:22

films are being being put out

41:24

today. And you've spoken on this before,

41:26

and myself, I am

41:29

a student of cinema. I went to film

41:31

school in New York which I would

41:33

have classes where I was legitimately just

41:35

watching movies all

41:37

the time. Big movies, small movies,

41:40

major productions and major

41:42

studios. And the

41:44

way that things are are going now is

41:46

that these studios aren't

41:48

going to be investing in films unless

41:51

they have a proven track

41:53

record of fan base, whether it's

41:55

based on an original book

41:58

or uh it's based on a comic

42:00

or graphic novel. Rarely

42:02

do these these producers,

42:05

directors, writers get a chance

42:07

unless there's someone special and they

42:09

just had a hit. Yeah. They call it the mid range

42:11

films. It's it used to be small budget,

42:14

mid range, mid range budget twenty

42:16

million, and then the big budgets. Now

42:19

it's just big budgets and they'll acquire

42:22

a small film here and there, but the majority

42:24

of the studios they don't make small films.

42:27

They might, like an independent company

42:29

might make one and then they might buy

42:31

it and then they might distribute it, but they don't

42:33

finance them the way they used to. There's no there's

42:35

no market for it. And it's very bizarre, especially

42:38

for me being such a huge fan of comedy

42:40

films because some

42:42

of my favorite films from growing

42:44

up they were made in the ten to fifteen

42:47

or even eight million dollar range.

42:49

They don't really make those movies anymore so, but they'll

42:51

make like a forty million dollar comedy.

42:53

But they would prefer for these Marvel

42:55

movies to make one million

42:58

dollar movie than twenty millions. They

43:00

want dollar movie

43:02

than than ten. That's

43:05

good point, right. So these films

43:08

I love them because they are just complete

43:10

and utter spectacles. There's no

43:13

stone left unturned, which

43:15

is a little bit of a pun because the movie is based

43:18

on the six Infinity Stones of power.

43:21

So that's that's a little inside joke

43:23

for the fans out there. Some of the fans got

43:25

that, yes, and some of the fans like, what are

43:27

you talking about exactly? But now, who's the star

43:30

of this movie. There are so many stars

43:33

of this movie. So basically,

43:35

here are the fear of the people that are

43:37

involved in the movie. And this is not

43:40

spoiler alert this this is

43:42

this is just we're not fucking spoiling

43:44

the movie for you. And also, and these are

43:46

the type of actors that on

43:48

their own are A listers

43:51

and could carry other films. And there's even

43:53

actors who were in even though I've seen all

43:55

the movies. There's one actor who

43:57

I was like, I had no idea that they were in this

43:59

MOVI movie just because she's

44:02

in just full costume the whole time. And I'm actually

44:04

a fan of hers, but I didn't know it was her. Okay,

44:07

No, these are no spoiler alerts. This is These are

44:09

all the people that you can tell. And and

44:11

also I'm glad that I saw it when I saw it, because

44:13

if you even look at the commercials, the fifteen

44:15

second commercials, thirty second commercials

44:17

that are running throughout the NBA

44:19

playoffs, you you're you can pick up on things.

44:22

You could be like, oh, there's a battle

44:24

going on here, and this this character

44:26

talks to this character. I'm not with all

44:28

that just put up fifteen

44:30

seconds go see Avengers Endgame.

44:33

It made one point to billion dollars one

44:36

point to billion dollars in the box office.

44:39

It's the biggest domestic ever

44:42

in the US three hundred and sixty million

44:44

dollars. And guess what it almost

44:46

made that much in China, three

44:49

hundred and thirty million dollars.

44:51

These movies are hard body

44:53

karate. This has been going on since two thousand

44:55

and seven. There's twenty two films

44:58

in this. They made twenty two films. Any

45:00

two of these films, which is you know, it's

45:02

a little but they're they've made more

45:04

of these Marvel but twenty two that they

45:06

put into this, like M see

45:08

you the Marvel Cinematic Universe bubbles.

45:11

They don't they don't include like the Venoms

45:14

or some of the early Spider Man's. It's weird

45:16

how they like categorize because I've

45:18

seen all of them. I've seen every single one.

45:20

But they talk about the ones that are

45:22

that are in these this

45:25

little junk and I'll get into that. But here are the actors

45:27

that like right off the bat and big stars

45:30

that you could be excited about as just

45:32

a fan of cinema that I would love

45:34

by the end of this, I could convince you to go see this

45:36

movie in theaters. So like

45:39

you said, Robert Downey Jr. Jeremy

45:41

Renner, Scarlett Johansson, Chris

45:43

Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Breed

45:46

Larson, Paul Rudd, Mark

45:48

Ruffalo, Don Cheatle, Karen

45:51

Gillion. That's who I was talking about.

45:53

The person I didn't know. She hasn't been in probably

45:56

half a dozen of these movies. She plays the

45:58

blue robot nebula. No

46:00

idea was her. And if you guys are trying to visualize

46:03

who this person is, if you've seen Jumanji,

46:05

the movie with the Rock and Kevin Hart, she's

46:08

the girl. There was a little bit of a controversy because

46:10

she had the midriff. Fantastic actress.

46:13

You're gonna see her all over as

46:16

There's gonna be another controversy

46:19

about you being the resident Avengers

46:21

film critic. Good. I welcome it, and I'd

46:23

love to speak with any you're Do you feel

46:25

confident to debate anybody. I've seen all the

46:27

movies so many times and I see it from such

46:29

a such a different lens,

46:32

and I really I'm

46:34

young, I'm excitable. I'm ready

46:37

to talk to anyone. About

46:39

this at any time. Also some

46:41

characters and even though you know it's it's

46:43

a raccoon or it's not

46:45

a raccoon, raccoon like, it

46:47

looks like a raccoon, but it's really a genetically

46:49

engineered raccoon look alike from space

46:52

voiced by Bradley Cooper. You know that's

46:54

this is in the movie. This is in

46:56

the movie Holy fuck It.

46:59

And then also so someone who's relatively

47:01

new to the space but you know, looks like

47:04

is gonna be in it for the long

47:06

haul. Is Tessa Thompson. Who wh whoa whoa whoa

47:08

whoa whoa whoa whoa what? Long

47:10

haul? I thought it was the end. She was

47:12

just when does it end?

47:15

There's more of this ship? She because

47:17

I gotta have to fucking if they're gonna keep going, I'm

47:19

gonna have to fucking change my tune and

47:21

get it. Get in one of these motherfucker's. I

47:23

actually have the film that you

47:26

need to get in. I already know which

47:29

films. You know a part. I

47:31

don't know what the part because I'm not very established

47:34

with the comic books, but it's

47:36

actually one of, if not my favorite,

47:39

of the not the Avengers movies,

47:41

but a side character. And actually

47:43

I know for a fact, so you're not saying

47:45

so you're saying I shouldn't go for a lead. We're

47:47

just gonna just be happy to be in and get a side

47:49

character. You I think you, well,

47:51

who knows. Maybe the character that they put

47:54

you off exactly, Maybe

47:56

he's got a spin off, maybe he's

47:58

got a role that's growing. But the movie

48:01

that I think, or the franchise that you should be involved

48:03

with, is Doctor Strange. I

48:06

can see you involved in Dr Strange. That's the Benedict

48:08

Cumberbatch movie.

48:10

And I know for a fact that the director

48:13

fucks with you hard body karate. I've

48:15

seen I've just cut this ship out. Scott

48:17

Derrickson, he has, He has liked

48:19

and commented and tweeted at

48:21

you, And I said that to you in the past, and you're like, I

48:24

don't I don't even know. Okay, okay, I gotta

48:26

stop playing games with these people. So dorse

48:28

fuckers are like, oh, this is my last

48:30

Avengers movie. Like I'm like, They're like, I've made so

48:33

much money, I'm just gonna step away from

48:35

it. It is a little strange because

48:37

there is more films

48:40

to come and that's not a secret. So is

48:42

Jason Momoa in this or is that d C?

48:44

That's d C and that's a whole other, same

48:47

thing but different. Yes, it's like another league.

48:49

It's like if there's two NFL's, Yes,

48:51

it's now is d C? Is

48:54

like, if you're a Marvel person, can you funk with d

48:56

C? And what is generally

48:59

more? Respect? Did marcause I literally

49:01

have no idea Marvel and d C.

49:04

You can be fans of both, and

49:06

I think that Marvel the movies

49:08

are a little bit more serious

49:11

at but also very cheeky and

49:13

and comedic and fun. DC is

49:15

definitely playing catch up. Marvel has

49:17

been around for longer. They have

49:20

been building this

49:23

collective, interwoven universe

49:25

that's just unmatched. Honestly, I've

49:28

seen all of the d C films

49:30

too. I is that like Superman and Batman?

49:32

Yeah, it's it's Superman, Batman,

49:35

Aquaman, Wonder Woman.

49:37

Which a rat or

49:40

not? Not not the one you just mentioned, there's another one with a

49:42

rat. It was like a space space

49:45

rat or something. I don't

49:47

fucking no, go ahead, I don't want to interrupt

49:49

you. You're very excited about this super

49:51

but I'm excited that you're excited about learning

49:54

more about d C and Marvel because I'm just trying

49:56

to get a job and I'm just trying to get a

49:58

job from that's know. I'm just like, you know

50:01

what, I've stood my ground with this long enough.

50:03

I feel like it's like that I need to jump

50:05

in. The jump in because it's

50:07

it's too much. There's too many opportunities

50:10

out here for me to be It's not that I don't get it, I

50:12

just don't. I'm not interested. I don't go to

50:14

see them as a film as a fan, know that

50:16

there's roles for you that are available.

50:20

Strange doctors, doctor Strange to Black

50:22

Panther two is coming, right,

50:24

there's definitely Was there any white people in Black

50:26

Panther? Yes, there were. I gotta try

50:28

to find out about that. You can definitely

50:31

have a role in Black Panther too.

50:33

I mean, it's and this is all c G I heaven,

50:36

it's a lot of it. But that's also

50:38

what's so great about the Marvel universes.

50:40

It's all to me. The

50:43

majority of the films and the Marvel Universe

50:45

are very grounded in

50:49

human reality. Now, I'll

50:51

break down the movies that I like the most,

50:53

and I like the Thor movies,

50:55

but they're not my cup

50:57

of tea because it's got that like

51:00

fantastic fantasy,

51:02

out of this world mythology,

51:05

immortal, you know, and who's

51:08

Thor's Chris Hemsworth, you

51:10

know. And and Injuris Elba was in those

51:13

films. He got killed off in the last Infinity

51:16

War movie. In the that was the last

51:18

Avengers movie, he was killed off in the beginning.

51:20

So that's not a spoiler. Um,

51:22

it's the type of thing that there is room

51:25

for you. And also you

51:27

know, just so you know, and something

51:30

that I didn't know, which is I didn't look into any of this

51:32

stuff. I didn't even want to know what movies were coming.

51:34

But now that I've seen it, I know when movies

51:37

are coming. But also there's going

51:39

to be made

51:41

for TV, made for

51:43

streaming, which they've done a little

51:46

bit in the past, Agent Carter and

51:48

there was another TV show that was an ABC. But

51:51

with the Apple Plus streaming coming,

51:53

there's when it's you know, I was thinking about

51:55

that today. Apple Plus. You

51:58

know, Apple and Mac is usually

52:00

ahead of everything. They're way

52:02

behind on this streaming ship. Remember,

52:04

like about a month ago five weeks ago,

52:06

they had a big announcement where where where's this? Where's

52:08

the ship at? Normally they announced

52:11

and then put it out, where's your shows that I know. I

52:13

know it's coming in the fall, but why

52:15

announce it now? Like when they when they say a watch

52:18

is coming, the fucking watch comes. They

52:20

say the phone's coming, the phone comes,

52:22

Like they don't even have a date on this ship. It's

52:26

different now. Now is Samuel Jackson

52:28

a part of what Samuel Jackson

52:30

is a part of the Marvel universe?

52:33

Now? He is killed at

52:35

the end of Avengers Infinity

52:37

War, right, so he is

52:39

not listed in the beginning of

52:42

this film with all the

52:44

other characters I've listened. But you know, he was

52:46

just prominently featured in Captain

52:49

Marvel, the movie that just came

52:51

out with Bree Larson as

52:53

as the star and Samuel Jackson is the

52:56

second was a big hit also, it was a big

52:58

hit. All I'd rather watch Painter and

53:01

Samuel Jackson one of my favorite actors. I'd rather

53:03

literally sit in here, repaint

53:05

the gloom to him and watch it dry then watch

53:07

those movies I have. It's

53:09

it's like watching old

53:13

people speak Portuguese to

53:15

one another. I have no idea what it is,

53:17

no clue you're missing out. I'm

53:20

just telling you. I'd literally sit in the gloom

53:22

to him and repainted and watched the paint dry. I

53:24

understand. I bet you, based on

53:27

what I know about you and your sensibilities,

53:29

that I could hand pick which

53:32

films you might actually get down

53:34

with, because it's some

53:37

I saw a black panther, Yes, yes,

53:39

it was fine. Yeah, black pants. It

53:41

didn't, it didn't. I'm not relating

53:44

to any of this, right, and Black Panther,

53:46

that's the That film

53:49

was only the second time we had seen

53:51

that character throughout the whole

53:53

thing. He was in the Civil

53:55

War movie, which was one of the Captain

53:58

American movies, which also was kind of like a Vengers

54:00

movie because it had probably a

54:03

dozen or more of characters that

54:05

were in and out. They just they do a really good

54:07

job of balancing out

54:10

characters and and building their arcs.

54:12

You know, this one is in this movie, and this

54:14

then he comes into this movie, but he's not in this movie.

54:17

And obviously, since you know behind

54:19

the looking glass, you know, if an actor is not

54:22

in this movie, it's because he's out filming another

54:24

movie. For this this project,

54:26

this this Marvel, the m c U universe.

54:29

So there's a lot of really

54:32

good films. Some and some people have different

54:34

tastes, like, for example, I love the

54:36

Original Captain America movie, which

54:38

takes place in the forties, has a lot

54:40

of you know, intrinsic history

54:43

and he's fighting the Nazis and

54:46

you know the Nazis. They kind

54:48

of pair with Hydro which is like Marvel's

54:51

version of the Nazis type of thing

54:53

that that that spans multiple decades

54:55

and comes into the present day and other films.

54:58

So I really like that. So, but you see

55:00

certain lists and they're different. This is my list.

55:03

These are the movies that I will watch anytime

55:05

it's on. This is resident I

55:08

am Rapports stereo podcast Avengers

55:11

film critic slash producer,

55:14

slash Dust brother Jordan Winter's

55:16

favorite Avenger films go ahead,

55:19

okay. And this also has to do with

55:21

just the experience and how it made me feel

55:23

seeing it, because as a fan of film,

55:26

I had such a blast that

55:28

I'm not going to tell you which is one or two.

55:30

I'm just gonna say one A, one B Infinity

55:33

War and Endgame. Those are the latest

55:35

two Avengers movies. I

55:38

loved both of them. They were

55:40

just so much fun, completely

55:42

worth the price of admission plus the popcorn,

55:45

plus the butterfinger, plus the soda, plus

55:48

the parking, totally worth. It. Would

55:50

do it again, hopefully when I see it again, it's with

55:52

a pack theater. It was just everything

55:54

you could hope for and more. It's it's

55:57

amazing. It's such a cinematic

55:59

achievement. And people are so

56:01

about this, you know, greatest of all time

56:03

culture or we may never see

56:06

this again. But seriously, we may never see this. Is

56:08

that what people talk about this movie? And they're like talking

56:10

about it like it's like Jordan or Lebron or Kobe.

56:13

It's so amazing

56:15

because people are are so invested. Rap

56:18

we're talking about twenty two films

56:21

that I didn't know two thousand and seven.

56:23

Yeah, that's I didn't know there was I would have said six

56:26

seven, twenty two. And it's you

56:28

forget about a lot of the

56:30

films because you kind of compartmentalize,

56:32

and then you know they some end up in syndication.

56:35

There you'll see him on TV a lot. They run

56:37

them on t NT or US say I flipped

56:40

the channel. They do it before

56:42

basketball games. I flipped the funk, I won't watch

56:44

for a second, and then next is loud.

56:46

For a while, had all the movies, but

56:49

they don't anymore because they pulled them because

56:51

now it's going to Disney Plus, another

56:54

streaming service that's coming out, you know.

56:56

So that's where it's all going down. The whole

56:58

world is going to all card on demand.

57:01

Same thing for the podcasting world, same thing for

57:03

the arm Rapports Stereopluminary. We

57:05

are ahead of the curve. We are

57:08

the Disney Plus, we are the

57:10

Apple Plus, we are the Avengers Endgame

57:13

of podcasts, that's

57:16

no doubt. All right, do your list? You didn't even you

57:18

get you get so excited, like your face

57:20

turns red. Do your fucking lists.

57:22

So those are my one, A, one B the Avenger. So those

57:25

lived up to expectations. Absolutely,

57:27

Wow, absolutely lived up to expectations.

57:31

So much fun. And honestly, I don't

57:33

think that if you saw

57:36

either Infinity War or Endgame,

57:39

you don't have to see any other movies.

57:41

It's just it's such a well

57:43

done spectacle. It's honestly probably

57:46

the best computer graphics

57:48

I've ever seen in any movie ever.

57:51

I would love to know what the budget

57:53

for this film was, because I think it's way more

57:55

than two hundred millions, probably in the three million

57:58

dollar range. It's absolutely

58:00

fantastic and you can't you can just see

58:02

it and just enjoy it and be like,

58:04

wow, unbelievable how far

58:07

movies have come, and

58:09

just appreciate. Who's the

58:11

director, the Russo brothers,

58:14

and they've been doing and the movie that I talked about, the Original

58:16

Captain American movie, the Russo brothers

58:19

directed, so they've been in this for a

58:21

while. They also did the Infinity

58:23

War movie. Um, so

58:25

let's talk about some other movies. I really like the

58:28

original Avengers movie. I love that

58:30

movie. And look, it's funny because that movie

58:32

was on TV last night that I was watching,

58:35

and it's funny. There's there's

58:37

little like idiosyncrasies or

58:40

like some people would say plot holes, like a character

58:42

says something and then you remember it from this

58:44

movie be like, oh, that doesn't exactly match up.

58:47

They didn't know that they were going to be making

58:49

twenty two of these things, but

58:51

they didn't know that every single

58:54

detail of what it was, how it

58:56

could go. So you got to be able to

58:58

like just sit back, can enjoy and not

59:01

be taken notes about plot

59:03

holes and things of that nature,

59:05

at least from me. I mean, look, if you're die hard comic

59:07

book I get it, you're invested. My uncle

59:09

tried to get me into comic books. I wish I

59:11

would have because I'm like, okay, okay, give

59:13

me comic books. I put it in the closet. Wasn't

59:16

my cup of tea. So I already talked

59:18

about Captain America. I really liked that first

59:20

one Doctor Strange movie that

59:22

I think there is a franchise in. So that's

59:24

Benedict Cumberbatch is the

59:26

main So

59:29

he what does he do? He is

59:31

He's just a weirdo. He is a

59:33

weirdo, but he's awesome. He's an awesome weird

59:35

fly. He can fly. Yeah.

59:37

So he has what's called one of the to the

59:40

Stones, which is called the Time Stone,

59:42

and basically he can control time and

59:45

he can do all kinds of mystical

59:48

and magical things. There was a role

59:50

in the original Doctor Strange movie which I think,

59:53

you know, potentially you

59:55

could be in the same universe.

59:57

It was given to Benjamin Bratt. He was a

1:00:00

actor. Doctor Strange goes and find

1:00:02

like kind of oh like you were paralyzed,

1:00:04

and but you're not. Now you're playing basketball

1:00:06

in the park, and let me ask you something,

1:00:08

so you could be it's based in New York, so

1:00:10

that that could okay,

1:00:12

Okay, he's from New York, even though he

1:00:14

goes to strangers. Yeah, he's from

1:00:16

New York. He's he's a big surgeon

1:00:18

in New York. And a lot

1:00:20

of the Avengers movies and

1:00:22

all the Marvel movies they take place in

1:00:25

New York, which ends up being a pivotal

1:00:27

piece in Endgame. Not it's not spoiling

1:00:29

anything. I got down and you

1:00:32

could just so easily get it because I stay

1:00:34

there's scenes that are in Central Park in

1:00:36

in Infinity. I'm not gonna play a fucking frankfort

1:00:39

the guy. I want to be able to be able to fly but

1:00:42

run fast, and that disappears. They're

1:00:44

so smart something. Maybe

1:00:46

in one movie you're you're the Frankforter

1:00:48

guy, and then they're like, oh, but you gotta look out because

1:00:50

that Frankfurter guy he becomes the villain

1:00:53

in the New Spider Man movie. So just

1:00:55

let it be put out. I'm gonna put it out

1:00:57

there and putting it out there, making official make in

1:01:00

an official soon exactly. And then another

1:01:02

film that I really enjoyed was the first

1:01:04

Guardians of the Galaxy movie, and

1:01:07

that film for me, has not Isn't I have a rat

1:01:09

in it? That's the raccoon. There's a there's

1:01:11

a Spinicio del Toro play a raccoon. No, he's

1:01:13

he's in those movies, but he's not.

1:01:15

He's he's not a rat. He's not raccoon or a

1:01:18

band guy or something. He is

1:01:20

in the bad guy space. Also

1:01:23

Black Panthers, phenomenal original

1:01:25

iron Man where this all started. That's

1:01:27

what Robert Downey, That's what Robert. I

1:01:30

saw it at the grove. I went to Sleep, directed by

1:01:32

John Favre in the theater,

1:01:35

right sleeping, right, bye bye

1:01:37

fucking naptime exactly exactly,

1:01:40

And that's no clue in

1:01:42

it. Yes, bye bye, went

1:01:44

to sleep. I love them all. Bye Bye Naptime.

1:01:48

Aunt Man's also fantastic. Ants

1:01:50

the sequels, you know, they're hit or miss,

1:01:53

Like aunt Man two is fun.

1:01:55

Iron Man too, not in

1:01:58

the background, first of all, like what it? What is he? What

1:02:00

is he? He gets in a costume? Iron

1:02:03

Man? Because I'm sitting there looking

1:02:05

at these guys and I'm like what are you talking about? All right, they're

1:02:08

all pretty much most of them are. I mean, they're

1:02:10

all in costumes, all of them. It doesn't matter if

1:02:12

they have superpowers. Some of them the costumes

1:02:14

give them superpowers. Others the

1:02:17

they're just amazing and they wear costumes.

1:02:19

Okay, Now let me just ask you your takeaway.

1:02:23

How many thumbs up do you give Avengers

1:02:25

Endgame? How many thumbs do I get? Fuck

1:02:29

Jesus Christ, I don't know. You're a superpower

1:02:32

guy. You get twelve, you

1:02:34

get you get twelve thumbs twelve thumbs

1:02:37

up, twelve thumbs up. It's beautiful

1:02:39

across the board. And you said that people

1:02:42

were lingering around the theater in

1:02:44

in Like they didn't leave. They

1:02:46

didn't. No one left the theater. I mean I

1:02:48

would said, get the funk out, everybody gotta

1:02:50

go. We got another screen, we got

1:02:52

more money to make, get the funk out of. Some

1:02:56

theaters did that. Some theaters posted

1:02:59

signs that say there is no end

1:03:02

of the credits scene, because that's the

1:03:04

way like five minutes to think like another's

1:03:06

if the movies over this

1:03:09

place, like fifteen minutes of credits too.

1:03:11

It's all that and people think like a pop up thing's

1:03:14

gonna happen. Yeah, which they do. They they've

1:03:16

done in like pent

1:03:19

of the movies. There's either a mid

1:03:21

credit scene and ed credit scene

1:03:23

or mid and an ed credit

1:03:25

scene. So people are waiting out mid credit

1:03:28

scene. Yeah, in the middle of the movie, and

1:03:30

when the movie's over, they'll have the credits,

1:03:33

and then in the middle of the credits a sceno

1:03:35

pop up from the next movie. The next movie.

1:03:38

People must just lose their mind when

1:03:40

they they go right to Twitter and my

1:03:42

god, I didn't look at any of that. I didn't google

1:03:44

if there was an Okay, there was a nice

1:03:46

tribute at the end that you know, had

1:03:49

autographs of all the characters and all

1:03:51

the actors got stuff like that, but no

1:03:54

end of the movie scene, which

1:03:56

is not a spoiler. All right, Listen, this

1:03:58

was a fantastic review,

1:04:00

fantastic insight to something that I have

1:04:03

no uh take on, but

1:04:05

I know that I am in the minority. So

1:04:08

this is very enlightening for me. Now, dub

1:04:11

since we talk NBA all the time, and

1:04:13

uh, you give me so many hot

1:04:16

takes and so many point of views on the NBA.

1:04:18

Let's talk about the next two game.

1:04:20

Two's of the

1:04:23

UH Round two of the NBA

1:04:25

Finals, First Warriors

1:04:28

verse the Houston Rockets.

1:04:31

Now I have a study this

1:04:34

in in nauseum

1:04:36

um. The big controversy after

1:04:38

Game one was whether or not James Harden

1:04:40

was foul. Now I've done deep research,

1:04:43

I fact checked, and I'm saying deep. I'm

1:04:46

talking about as deep as as we can go. Now

1:04:48

I have sources, and I just put

1:04:50

it out there that I do have sources, and

1:04:52

I will say this. I was gonna do

1:04:54

a rant about James Harden and

1:04:57

fucking Chris Paul with his fucking bullshit,

1:04:59

and they're they're essentially it's a jump

1:05:02

shot. It's not along

1:05:04

jump. You're not jumping forward, it's not

1:05:06

a triple jump. You're not Mike Conley sr

1:05:09

um. But I am wrong. I am wrong.

1:05:11

The NBA and my sources

1:05:13

have confirmed based on the

1:05:16

tape, and I'm saying I have

1:05:18

sources that those three calls

1:05:21

that were controversial in the first

1:05:23

half UH with Clay Thompson and

1:05:25

James Harden were in fact

1:05:28

should have been called as fouls. I

1:05:31

disagree, and I think they're gonna make another amendment

1:05:33

because if the offensive

1:05:35

player is UH shooting a

1:05:37

basket and they're jumping forward and

1:05:40

the defensive players going towards him and

1:05:42

they're jumping forward. They're both the sort of meeting

1:05:44

in the middle. Um, how

1:05:46

do you call the foul? But this is the

1:05:48

thing I learned. A defensive player cannot

1:05:51

interfere and can't interrupt

1:05:53

um and cannot be called for an offensive

1:05:56

foul if they're going towards the rim.

1:05:58

And that's what games Harden is essentially

1:06:01

doing. Like so he's taking a deep three

1:06:03

and he's jumping forward towards the rim.

1:06:06

Clay Thompson or the defender has

1:06:08

to give them that space. I think that

1:06:10

that's bullshit. I think that they're gonna make it a

1:06:12

rule on another rule because James Harden is

1:06:14

so tricky, such a master, and

1:06:17

and James Harden is so hard

1:06:20

to defend um,

1:06:22

and he's so hard to officiate because he

1:06:24

does all this KG ship. He's

1:06:27

that old guy in the gym who's

1:06:29

slow, who's got all the tricks,

1:06:31

who's got all the moves, who will frustrate

1:06:34

you, who will bust your ass. He's that

1:06:36

guy at twenty whatever years

1:06:39

old. He is now that motherfucker's gonna

1:06:41

be doing this ship until

1:06:43

he's forty and he's learning tricks

1:06:45

from Chris Paul, who's also phenomenal

1:06:48

at doing that. Yeah. He both

1:06:50

of them are so good at

1:06:53

knowing where the defender's arms

1:06:55

are, where their hands are, where the space of it

1:06:57

and playing with it and complaining and whether

1:07:00

like it. And I'm like, listen, it's the playoffs.

1:07:02

I don't like it. I don't like the flopping.

1:07:05

I don't like the games, especially

1:07:07

Game one, like arguing about the coals and then manipulating

1:07:10

afterwards. Just I just want a fair shot

1:07:12

to win. I don't like any of that. I also

1:07:14

want the Warriors to win, so that my

1:07:16

preferences for the Warriors. But I just

1:07:19

all this ship like and it becomes a two day

1:07:21

discussion. Was it a foul not a foul? The NBA

1:07:23

comes out and said it wasn't a foul, But then

1:07:25

I know for a fact that that's

1:07:28

not the truth, and blah blah blah

1:07:30

blah blah blah blah blah blah. So, aside

1:07:32

from the foul stuff, what was

1:07:34

your assessment of Game one heading

1:07:37

into Game two of the Warriors versus

1:07:40

the Rockets dub So, the

1:07:42

thing about the Rockets is they just shoot,

1:07:44

so many three pointers every

1:07:47

game. They're they're trying to shoot over sixty

1:07:49

three pointers on average. That's

1:07:51

what they want to do. They want to they want to push

1:07:54

the pace, and there are so many

1:07:56

different players on that team that are just gonna be launching

1:07:58

from different places. People who watch

1:08:01

the games and love the Rockets, love the Rockets

1:08:04

versus Wars never talked about Eric

1:08:06

Gordon. Eric Gordon

1:08:08

is launching from everywhere.

1:08:11

And he did not have

1:08:13

a good game, and especially on the first

1:08:15

half. I think he was over seven from three

1:08:17

point range. He finished with I

1:08:20

think four for thirteen from three point

1:08:22

range. And the

1:08:24

thing that really struck me was that,

1:08:27

you know, the Warriors played great

1:08:29

in the first half. Kevin Durant was phenomenal.

1:08:32

Steph was off kind of like

1:08:34

in the sides, Clay Thompson a little bit. Draymond

1:08:36

was great in the first three Draymond

1:08:39

is the key. I mean, he's not the best player, but that that

1:08:41

energy and that triple double, that

1:08:43

ten, twelve and eleven,

1:08:46

it's monstrous. And you know when he's

1:08:48

making a step back, fade away,

1:08:51

uh long twos in the first half

1:08:53

was like within the first ten point you're like, okay, Draymond

1:08:56

is locked in his energy and starting

1:08:58

a gu Dolla was was a eight

1:09:00

idea by car I mean, because he really brings

1:09:03

stability to that, you know.

1:09:05

But the thing that really struck me was that the Warriors

1:09:07

completely outplayed the Rockets and

1:09:09

it was tied at half. So many, so

1:09:12

many turnovers, it's there's

1:09:14

no way they won't win this series. If they

1:09:16

don't, they don't pull that back. Absolutely

1:09:18

too many fucking turnovers. And again

1:09:21

you hear it in my voice. You guys know, I

1:09:23

want the Warriors to win this series. So yes,

1:09:26

you are hearing a preferential treatment.

1:09:28

I'm not sucking the same ESPN, the same n

1:09:31

B A T. It's better. I'm I

1:09:33

want the Warriors to win. I am

1:09:35

saying that, but I also want a great series.

1:09:38

And the Rockets ain't going nowhere. No,

1:09:40

they never say die. They

1:09:43

ain't going anywhere, right, And the

1:09:45

lineups that the Warriors are playing

1:09:48

really does play to the strength of the Rockets

1:09:50

because they're not gonna take out

1:09:52

Clint Capella. They want Capella

1:09:55

in there and they want him to be

1:09:57

available to get those lobs.

1:10:00

James Harden and other than Kevin

1:10:02

Durant, there's no one in that core

1:10:04

starting five that could even

1:10:07

get up high enough at the

1:10:09

apex of Clint Capella and

1:10:11

also something that needs to be monitored throughout

1:10:13

this series. And you have

1:10:15

sure clay And and Steph.

1:10:18

They looked like themselves, even though we were a

1:10:20

little concerned about their injury

1:10:22

status heading into game on. Their

1:10:24

rotation is probably the thinnest

1:10:27

that we've seen in this

1:10:29

run of the last

1:10:32

few years of the Warriors. I think Jonas

1:10:34

in certain games, Jonas Jerebko

1:10:37

maybe not in this series, he'll come into

1:10:39

play. And if I was if I was Steve Kerry,

1:10:41

I'd let Jonas. Remember when we really

1:10:43

fell in love with Jonas when he was with the Celtics

1:10:46

and he was fucking knocking people around. Steve

1:10:48

Kurt needs to have him go go out there and do a little

1:10:51

bit of that, and he could do some dirty Draymond

1:10:53

type of she He's nowhere near Draymond, but

1:10:55

Jonas can make He's got great floating jump

1:10:57

hooks and he'll fucking he's scrappy

1:11:01

stereo podcast and he's Swedish and

1:11:04

he has experienced playing against the Rockets in the playoffs

1:11:06

when he was on the Jazz last and he likes to bang.

1:11:09

He's tough and scrappy and he'll do

1:11:11

dirty shit. Um and he could give you

1:11:13

five hard fouls. Not says a game

1:11:15

changer, But just like Schumpert and I said

1:11:18

it, I fucking said

1:11:20

it, and no one listened to me. And

1:11:22

yes, Austin Rivers was hurt, I

1:11:25

mean he was sick. But iman

1:11:27

Schumpert again, he's not gonna stop Steph

1:11:29

Curry. He's not gonna stop Clay Thompson.

1:11:31

But he's a good defender. That's

1:11:33

all they need for him. And that's the

1:11:36

only reason why I'm on Schumper got got

1:11:38

picked up by the fucking Rockets was for

1:11:40

this series because he does a formidable

1:11:43

job. He's long, he's tall,

1:11:46

and at this point, that's the only thing he has

1:11:48

to do is give six minutes he or five

1:11:50

minutes there, three minutes there on those guys,

1:11:52

and this Rockets team should

1:11:54

be the team that we're rooting for because they're

1:11:57

very disruptive. They are disruptive, and

1:11:59

they get under your skin and

1:12:01

they get in your head. Yes, I mean,

1:12:04

I'm not with that kicking and flopping, but

1:12:07

you know who, every time I see him play,

1:12:09

I'm so impressed by you know

1:12:11

how much he's able to do with his

1:12:14

limited skill set is p J. Tucker.

1:12:17

The amount of offensive rebounds

1:12:19

that this guy gets in traffic in big

1:12:21

games is phenomenal, and he sees

1:12:23

there on the corner threes. He's constantly guarding

1:12:26

the best defender, speaking

1:12:28

of defense, because he guards Kevin Durant,

1:12:30

but we see Kevin Durant guarding James

1:12:32

Harden like. This is this

1:12:35

series And if there was anyone,

1:12:37

and I know that there are fans out there who believe that

1:12:39

the NBA should do away with

1:12:41

the conferences in the playoffs and allowed

1:12:43

to be the one through the sixteen seeding,

1:12:46

this is the type of series where that could

1:12:48

be an example, because I

1:12:51

truly wish that. And especially

1:12:53

whether you're a die hard fan or a casual

1:12:55

fan, you watch the Rockets versus

1:12:57

the Warriors, and you think, wow, this looks

1:13:00

like the NBA Finals. Yes, this is what the

1:13:02

NBA Finals should be so far.

1:13:04

Yes, I will also say this, Kevin

1:13:07

Durant, this is the

1:13:09

first time I believe this all

1:13:11

year. He's leaving the Warriors win loser

1:13:13

draw. And the reason why I say that

1:13:16

is because he's playing so well

1:13:18

and he's so focused that if they win,

1:13:21

great, If they don't win, he's like, it ain't on

1:13:23

me. He's unbelievable. He's

1:13:25

playing the best he's ever played, defensively

1:13:27

and offensively and offensively. He's

1:13:29

so confident, and we're talking about

1:13:32

years and years and years of being confident.

1:13:34

But it's like he truly is

1:13:37

like in a in a place where he's like, I

1:13:39

could score when I want to score, I'm scoring

1:13:41

thirty plus forty on your ass,

1:13:44

and if we do lose, you

1:13:46

ain't gonna be able to blame me, like he

1:13:48

I'm telling you. I think something clicked in his

1:13:51

head, like after that, uh, you

1:13:53

know who I am. I'm Kevin Durant. After that game

1:13:55

with the Clippers, He's like, if we lose, you're

1:13:57

not pointing fingers. There's no cupcakes.

1:14:00

You could say what you want, but the stats will

1:14:02

prove because I'm not coming back. If

1:14:04

we win, terrific, we won three in a row.

1:14:06

If we lose, I average forty, suck

1:14:09

my dick. He's he's gone. I love everything

1:14:12

about what Kevin Durant is doing, has

1:14:14

been doing. He clicked into another

1:14:16

gear Patrick Beverly situation,

1:14:19

and I think for himself, like I think truly,

1:14:22

it's like bye bye, I'm out of your assholes,

1:14:24

and he can do whatever he wants.

1:14:27

It is such a joy and a privilege

1:14:29

to watch Kevin Durant play basketball. He's

1:14:31

stupid and anyone who

1:14:34

is against Kevin your snow with your

1:14:36

cupcakes and all they move forward. You

1:14:38

have had some of the best tweets of the playoffs

1:14:40

about Kevin Durant, that he's the best

1:14:43

player in the world. He is the best play period

1:14:45

world. If you don't like Kevin Durant, you

1:14:47

don't like yourself. You don't like Kevin Durant, you

1:14:49

don't like yourself. Now Boston

1:14:51

versus Milwaukee. Milwaukee came

1:14:54

out with a flurry in the beginning and then Boston

1:14:56

fucked them right uman. You know,

1:14:58

everybody's like, oh, that series is over. Paul

1:15:00

Pierce says it's over. The great Paul Pierce.

1:15:02

I knew he was gonna say that. He's so his

1:15:04

his takes. I like Paul Pierce. He didn't give

1:15:06

a fuck. His takes are way out

1:15:08

there. Um, but what did

1:15:11

you get from that? Uh? That first, it's

1:15:13

one game. By the time this podcast

1:15:15

goes, it'll still be one game of that

1:15:17

series. You know, and it's tough to make

1:15:19

that type of prediction, especially the fact that both

1:15:22

of those teams were off for six days

1:15:24

because they both made mince meat

1:15:26

of their competition Indiana

1:15:29

and Detroit bye bye with

1:15:33

this matchup. And it was also it was an

1:15:35

early start. It was really

1:15:37

early for a playoff. Let these guys rest, Golden

1:15:40

state that fucking twenty four hours to rest,

1:15:42

right, it's thirty six hours to rest. Just

1:15:45

jamming into prime time. I mean basically,

1:15:47

that Boston Milwaukee series was at

1:15:49

noon, one o'clock.

1:15:52

It was, well, it was one o'clock Eastern, but they

1:15:54

played in a Milwaukee that's Central

1:15:56

time, so it was noon in Milwaukee.

1:15:59

Let people get their fucking brunch. People

1:16:01

in Milwaukee like bagel, cream, cheese, and lots. Let

1:16:04

these fucking people finish their brunch, right.

1:16:06

And I was up watching that game,

1:16:09

very excited because my thought

1:16:11

process going into this series, and I

1:16:14

do not like the Boston Celtics.

1:16:16

For you you guys out there, we don't know. I'm a New York

1:16:18

Nick fan, born and raised New York Nick

1:16:21

fan, and obviously Boston in

1:16:23

the same division as the Knicks. Never

1:16:25

enjoy their success. And

1:16:28

you know, going into this season, everyone

1:16:31

felt like Boston should be the favorites

1:16:34

in the East. They have the talent, they

1:16:36

have the ability, and you

1:16:38

know, they were really hot and cold

1:16:40

this year throughout the whole season, mostly

1:16:43

Kyrie was hot and cold. And

1:16:45

obviously Gordon Hayward coming

1:16:47

back off of that God with the good

1:16:49

hair, Gordon with the good hair, as you coined.

1:16:52

And you know the thing about

1:16:54

the first game and the

1:16:56

demolition of the

1:16:59

Milwaukee Bucks, which I think they have to go back to

1:17:01

the drawing board with their

1:17:03

rotation, because I thought

1:17:05

that Milwaukee was just gonna goon the

1:17:08

Boston Celtics, especially with Marcus

1:17:10

Smart most likely not playing in this series.

1:17:13

You just gotta goon that team, and

1:17:16

the Goons got goonened. And I

1:17:18

said this earlier in the year and then I stepped

1:17:20

away from it. Janice looked

1:17:23

very regular in that game, because without

1:17:26

you know, that fucking Tasmanian devil

1:17:28

in the open court uh

1:17:30

ship going on where he's at his very best

1:17:33

when it's time to do um skill

1:17:36

based moves where

1:17:38

you need more counters and and

1:17:40

um it's not just like physical domination,

1:17:44

he looks I'm gonna say regular

1:17:47

al horfor and it's just one game, but

1:17:49

that game he looked regular. I don't know what

1:17:51

his stats were, but he wasn't getting any

1:17:53

of that slashing to the basket. There was no open

1:17:56

court running, dunking, cutting,

1:17:58

slashing, running away from the basket,

1:18:00

dunking with like all that crazy shit. And

1:18:03

this was the thing that I saw earlier in the year. I was

1:18:05

like, this guy needs a skill set,

1:18:07

a skill set to go get a basket other

1:18:09

than just being fucking freaky athletic.

1:18:12

And that flurry that you talked about in the first

1:18:14

half of the game, the fourteen old run happened

1:18:16

by Milwaukee with Janice on the bench, and

1:18:19

that was, you know, aggressive aggression

1:18:21

by George Hill and you know, bringing

1:18:23

Nicolo Meritage, who you don't even recognize

1:18:26

because he doesn't have the beard. He's

1:18:28

just bombing threes. But those are the type

1:18:30

of guys that they're gonna need to have big series.

1:18:32

And you look up and down the Milwaukee

1:18:35

Bucks roster, there's really not a ton

1:18:37

of playoff experience. And the

1:18:39

Bucks they steamrolled

1:18:42

through the regular season this year, and there

1:18:44

were some amazing games and and some tight

1:18:46

games that they had to step up and they

1:18:49

were fantastic, But this is a seven

1:18:51

game series and you're going against

1:18:53

a team and a coach that's gonna

1:18:55

throw the kitchen sink at you. They've

1:18:58

got a lot of length and a out

1:19:00

of talent, and they were just double team in your honest,

1:19:02

NonStop. I mean, you know, Marcus

1:19:05

Morris Senior, I said, because that's what's on his

1:19:07

jersey. And Jalen Brown get

1:19:09

in the minutes, Jason Tatum,

1:19:11

they're coming at you that they're gonna let

1:19:13

Aaron Bains come give you five six

1:19:16

hard ones. You know, it's the type

1:19:18

of thing that Boston is not going to

1:19:20

back down at all. And

1:19:22

the thing that really struck me in Game one

1:19:25

was that every basket that

1:19:27

Milwaukee made was difficult,

1:19:30

and every basket that Boston made looked

1:19:32

easy. What is your prediction

1:19:34

on the other series? We have Philly versus Toronto,

1:19:38

we have the Blazers versus

1:19:40

Denver. Give me your prediction on who's going to

1:19:42

win? Who gives it fucking how many games? I

1:19:46

think that the Blazers will beat

1:19:48

the Nuggets, and I think the Raptors

1:19:50

will beat the Sixers. Do you want to say

1:19:52

how many games? It's hard, but

1:19:54

it's so hard to say. I would feel confident

1:19:57

that both of those series will be over in six

1:20:00

um. I gotta

1:20:02

tell you something, the fucking Raptors, when Kawhi

1:20:04

Leonard is like fully engaged.

1:20:06

This isn't like some fucking like hot take,

1:20:09

but when Kawhi Leonard is fully engaged

1:20:11

and Pascal Siaka friend of the Iron

1:20:13

Rappers, Terry, remember last summer we

1:20:16

had Pascal siakimon and everyone's

1:20:18

like, who the funk is that? Well,

1:20:21

now you know who the funk he is. I'm so

1:20:24

happy at how good he's

1:20:26

become and how beloved

1:20:28

he is in Toronto, and people are starting

1:20:31

to see around the league just how good that guy

1:20:33

is. And whatever happens with Kauai

1:20:35

over the summer as a free agent, I

1:20:38

mean, Toronto is so lucky to

1:20:40

have Pascal Siakam. He is

1:20:43

phenomenal. And

1:20:45

And what's your prediction, based on everything we know

1:20:48

right now, who's gonna make it

1:20:50

to the NBA Finals? Dub My

1:20:54

fandom thinks

1:20:56

it's going to end up being the Golden

1:20:58

State Warriors. Very says the Toronto

1:21:01

Raptors. You know that's if that happens,

1:21:04

the Warriors are going to have to really,

1:21:07

really outdo themselves because

1:21:10

Kawhi Leonard is a motherfucker and that

1:21:12

team is longer than the Warriors, they're

1:21:14

tall. I do think that they have to work

1:21:16

Jeremy Lynn into the rotation. I'm not sure

1:21:18

why he's been buried and you could

1:21:21

say, oh this that in the third, but I

1:21:23

mean, Jodie Meeks is getting time for

1:21:25

the Raptors. I don't understand why Jeremy Lynn isn't

1:21:28

getting time. But my

1:21:30

fear is that it's going to end

1:21:32

up being the Golden State Warriors versus

1:21:34

the Boston Celtics. I

1:21:37

do not want to see that. And

1:21:39

the Celtics are just looking like

1:21:42

they're clicking at the right time. If they get Marcus

1:21:44

Smart back to that team is just really

1:21:46

deep and really good. But how do you think they could beat

1:21:48

the Warriors. I don't think that they

1:21:50

could beat the Warriors, but I think that

1:21:52

if there's any team from the East that the Warriors

1:21:55

don't want to see, it's the Boston Celtics.

1:21:57

They've said that, they said when they played

1:21:59

this Kyrie he loves to fucking

1:22:01

go out the Warriors, loves to

1:22:04

go at the Wars and they've got guys on that team

1:22:06

who you know. They've got the mama mentality,

1:22:08

They've got they want the big moment, and it's

1:22:11

it seems like so long ago, but the

1:22:14

Celtics were in a Game seven

1:22:16

against the Calves in the Eastern Conference Finals

1:22:18

just last year. They're fucking good

1:22:20

and and I listen, I'm rocking

1:22:22

with the Warriors all the way through.

1:22:25

I want them to win. Those are my guys.

1:22:27

That's my adopted team. Yes, I'm

1:22:29

a New York Knicks fan. What am I supposed to do? Am

1:22:32

I supposed to sit here and watch all

1:22:34

tapes of the Knicks from seven?

1:22:38

Is that what you want me to do? We

1:22:40

had to Is that? Is that what I'm supposed to do? Sit

1:22:42

here and watch all the troll spree wall games.

1:22:44

Sit here and watch when when Bernard King scored

1:22:46

sixty. I can't do that, or when Carmelo

1:22:49

Anthony got blocked at the rim by Roy Hibbery.

1:22:51

Yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm a basketball

1:22:53

fan. That's my adopted team. It's always

1:22:55

been my adopted team. And that's what I'm

1:22:58

doing. I need to be emotionally involved.

1:23:00

All okay, you don't like

1:23:02

it. I don't know what people want me to

1:23:04

do. That's what I'm doing. Um

1:23:06

dub what a pleasure. Um,

1:23:09

what a pleasure. UM I'll wrap this up,

1:23:11

UM banging big body. I am wrapped

1:23:13

for stereo podcast. UM,

1:23:16

Miles, you're not here, so please

1:23:18

uh take us out of here with something real nice, uh,

1:23:20

something real proper, and most importantly, something

1:23:23

real funky. That's it.