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never forget that day. Hello,

1:09

everyone. Welcome to Literally.

1:13

This is a super fun one. Darius

1:16

Rucker. He's not Hootie. He

1:18

actually is not Hootie. Hootie

1:21

is like, it's like saying

1:23

David Bowie is Ziggy Stardust. They're

1:25

not the same person, but they are the same person. It's kind of

1:27

cool. Anyway, I was always a

1:29

big Hootie and Blowfish fan and I'm

1:31

a huge fan of Darius's transition into

1:33

country music. He's

1:36

just a stud and he's a golfer and he's

1:38

a Cincinnati Reds fan. What more

1:40

does a guy want in another guy? I

1:42

don't think much. Here we go. Well,

1:52

first of all, you got your PXG hat on,

1:54

which makes me very happy. Yes,

1:57

yes. I

1:59

love my PXG hat. Who

2:01

doesn't? Yeah, they're great aren't they?

2:03

They're great. You know what, whenever I pull

2:06

them out of my golf bag they go,

2:08

oh, those BXGs, they're worth it. They're so

2:10

good. 100%

2:13

worth every penny. I've never proved my

2:15

game so much. It's crazy. No, it's

2:17

unbelievable. Do you notice what I got? What I got

2:19

on for you? Yeah, I

2:22

see that. That's very nice. That's very nice.

2:24

Have you played? I'm

2:27

wearing my Augusta hat and I

2:29

did. I finally got to play

2:31

Augusta this year and

2:34

it was, you know, it's

2:36

like playing in a Sistine Chapel or

2:38

the church. 100%.

2:42

People always ask me what my favorite golf course

2:44

is. I say my type top three are Augusta,

2:46

Augusta, and Augusta. It's just that place

2:48

is special, man. It

2:51

is. It is. But I'll tell

2:53

you something. Are you ready for my hot take? Yep.

2:56

Here's my hot take. I have, let's

2:59

say, I only have one round of golf left

3:01

in my life. Where are

3:03

you playing? I'm playing Cypress Point. Wow,

3:06

really? That's impressive. I'm

3:09

playing Cypress Point. I love

3:11

it. I love it. I think it's a wonderful,

3:13

wonderful golf course. But I

3:15

understand, you know, I understand, but

3:17

it's Augusta for me, but I understand. I know. I know you can't

3:20

go wrong. What is, what

3:25

are you playing to these days? How?

3:28

Three seven right now, I think it is. I'm

3:32

not playing to that. I can shoot 85 right now, but that's

3:34

what it is right now. I

3:36

love that. Geez, the weird. So

3:38

you've done AT&T, I'm assuming, all

3:41

of it. You've done all of it, right? Yep.

3:43

I play them all pretty much. Yeah. Okay.

3:46

So the most insane obviously is the

3:48

Lake Tahoe one, right? That's mental. I've

3:50

only played that once and that's a straight

3:52

out party right there. Yeah. That's crazy. I,

3:55

okay. I haven't played it,

3:57

but I, this is the best. So I. was

4:01

there years and years and years and years and

4:03

years ago when all the guys I'm about to

4:05

mention were still playing their

4:07

sports so I ended up at

4:10

a table gambling table

4:13

with Barkley, Sampras,

4:18

Lemieux and there's I

4:20

want to see this and there's one other person

4:23

and these guys were betting like that place

4:25

is it goes off it's

4:28

a great place to be I'm gonna try to

4:30

play next year we should play together next year

4:32

that'd be okay if we see I'm gonna try

4:34

to get freed up this that it's funny that

4:36

the actors strike has screwed up everybody's schedules because

4:38

this was the year I was

4:41

officially going to ask off to play

4:43

AT&T this was the year I was doing it

4:46

and now I can't there's no way I can't yeah

4:48

but but that one's during

4:50

the hiatus in theory it is because

4:52

yeah I'm gonna play for a whole

4:55

this year okay who's your who's your

4:57

favorite celebrity and then your favorite athlete

5:00

to play with oh my

5:02

favorite athlete to play with this tiger I love playing golf

5:04

with tiger oh okay we had to talk about tiger I'm

5:06

glad okay good I'm so glad you brought this cuz I

5:08

have it in the notes you guys

5:10

are close you've been close for a long time we've

5:13

been friends a long time right yeah

5:15

we were 18 did you sing it

5:18

as wedding or something I did I think it

5:20

was wedding Wow I

5:22

sang at his father's funeral Wow

5:26

yeah tiger's my god man that's my

5:28

brother right there dude yeah

5:30

okay there are very few

5:32

people that I have never met that

5:35

are that are my like my

5:38

idols very in fact I

5:40

don't know he might be the only one I've never met

5:42

him really he's love them and

5:45

I know I would I just know I

5:47

actually followed him at the genesis yeah

5:50

and I was got to go actually

5:53

between the ropes but he's you

5:55

know he's so locked in so though

5:57

you know like I've met other guys like that

6:00

Like in you know like at the

6:02

FedEx Cup. I walked with the leaders one year

6:04

down in Atlanta and People

6:07

might acknowledge you Tigers. He's

6:09

locked in he's got the idea. He he's

6:11

very when he's when he's playing a tournament

6:14

He's very uh, yeah, he doesn't know

6:16

anybody else's around. Yeah, I'm gonna go of

6:18

course, you know He's I guess that's why he's a

6:20

great as a whole time What did you I gotta know

6:22

so what did you sing at the wedding and what did you sing

6:24

at the funeral? Oh? The

6:26

wedding was a bunch of hoodie played

6:29

basically. Oh you I was we played

6:31

a concert. Yeah, you know, yeah You

6:34

know, you know, it was a

6:36

great day with his family. I don't want to

6:38

go too much Do

6:44

you think he will

6:47

ever have another win You

6:49

don't want to count him out You

6:51

don't want to count him out because he's Tiger Woods and

6:53

if he could go in one of those runs like he

6:55

did in Augusta you know

6:57

and and win, but uh,

7:00

you know with the injury and everything I Hope

7:03

he wins again, you know, but I

7:05

don't know how much more he's going. I don't

7:07

know much more he wants to play How about

7:10

this? How about if he goes to the champions

7:12

and can ride? Then

7:14

what do you think? Oh He

7:16

would win every major illness. Yeah, he would

7:19

I think he'd up he dominated Champions League

7:21

for a minute. Absolutely Yeah,

7:23

he's gonna be 50 in three years It's

7:28

it's unbelievable he's my favorite by

7:30

far my favorite athlete by

7:32

far you know of of the

7:35

Jenner of this Last

7:38

25 years like there's nobody close

7:40

who I'd rather watch electrifying

7:43

You know he's I'm So

7:46

you'll have to introduce me. Okay, that's that's that's gonna

7:48

be on you. It's gonna be that's my ask Deal

7:55

I you have had done

7:57

so many amazing things in your life and

7:59

in your career, you've

8:01

raised so much money, and we'll get into that for

8:05

amazing causes, mostly in South Carolina,

8:07

but not just in South Carolina.

8:10

What... I was gonna

8:12

say, I was gonna say, and you've conquered

8:14

such and such genre, and then you've conquered country. But

8:17

we got to figure out what the genre of hootie

8:19

was. What would you call that

8:21

genre? I

8:26

guess people call it pop rock, but you know, I

8:30

don't... We were playing rock and roll and got real popular,

8:32

so yeah, pop rock, we'll go with that. You

8:34

know, yeah, that

8:37

was a different time, man. That was a different

8:39

time. It's so... I think I would... if I

8:41

had to pick a band that was emblematic of

8:43

that time, for sure, I feel like it's you

8:45

guys. For sure. You

8:47

know, that's one of the

8:49

things that's

8:52

crazy to me, because, you know, I mean, Crack from the

8:54

Blofish, I've used the biggest selling record of the decade. And

8:59

it's... I don't know. I

9:01

mean, you know, Grunge will always be remembered as

9:03

the big thing, and you know, but there was

9:05

a moment there where, you know, Hootie the Blofish

9:08

was having a real good time. Oh, dude, listen,

9:11

without Hootie and the Blofish, there's no Dave Matthews

9:13

band? Yeah. We

9:15

used to play frat houses with Dave. No

9:18

way. Yeah, that's

9:21

how long we know each other. Yeah.

9:23

How? So you guys

9:26

were... did you form the

9:28

band in college, right? You formed in college.

9:30

Yeah. So you guys actually went? Yeah.

9:33

Oh, we all went. Yeah. We actually met in a dorm.

9:36

Yeah, it was crazy. You

9:39

know, none of us was really looking to play.

9:41

They just ended up that way. Unbelievable.

9:44

And you're on your...

9:46

is it the 30th anniversary of Cracked Review?

9:48

Is that right? Yeah. Just

9:51

think about that. It's crazy, man. Next

9:53

year will be 30 years. Yeah. I love the

9:56

fact that it's like your alter ego. It's like

9:58

you're not Hootie, but you are who. So yeah,

10:00

you're touring with hoodie and yet you are hoodie,

10:02

which I like. Yeah, you know The messed up

10:04

thing is when I named the band who didn't

10:06

a blowfish. I never thought people would call me

10:08

hoodie. I'm a friggin idiot Idiot

10:13

I'm so bad at myself right now, but uh, yeah,

10:16

you know, it's actually You

10:18

know, I you know, I thought about you know, say

10:20

to the guys, you know, let's just call it and

10:23

stop you know doing these things but We

10:27

do it so little and when we do it, it's so much fun Then

10:30

I can tell myself why quit it when you know, we

10:32

could do whatever we feel like doing it. That's pretty cool

10:34

thing Well, yeah, I mean a you

10:36

guys are all you have a history it's not like

10:38

you answered in an ad and billboard to

10:41

form the band you guys are old-school

10:43

homies and and people

10:46

love it that they're never gonna not

10:48

love that music ever and but

10:52

we are in an era man where It's

10:54

like I remember Mick Jagger saying I don't

10:56

want to be playing satisfaction at 64 well Yeah,

11:04

and great and doing a great and great

11:06

but it isn't it interesting how when you

11:09

think like I mean guys

11:11

are a generation or two older than you and

11:13

me are Reinventing

11:15

what it means to be a rock star. Oh

11:18

Absolutely, it's totally uncharted territory for

11:21

guys in their 80s and there's Bruce Springsteen

11:24

He's still out there doing this thing, you

11:26

know, he's it's unreal 100%

11:29

man, like I went to see kiss the other way Why

11:31

and you know in gene

11:34

74 gene 74 and they

11:36

were friggin unbelievable I

11:38

mean, I'm I've seen him, you know

11:40

four or five times We were managed by the same guy

11:42

for a long time and it's like they

11:44

were so amazingly great I'm like he's 74

11:48

And he's up there on those platforms and he's

11:50

they're bringing it and Paul's up there dancing his

11:53

butt off at 70 Whatever he is and

11:55

I'm like man, that's because cuz for me,

11:57

I never thought about playing at 74 I

12:00

mean, you always think, nah, man, my

12:02

60s, I'm done. But like, now you

12:04

look at those guys and you go, wow, you know,

12:07

they can do it like that. I hope I can still do it like that

12:09

when I'm 74. You think you're

12:11

mad at yourself for calling yourself Hootie. Can

12:13

you imagine how mad at themselves they are for

12:16

going, we're only going to wear makeup. But

12:21

it works so well. I know

12:23

it does so well. Am

12:26

I crazy? Am I imagining this? Didn't they have a

12:28

moment where they're like, fuck the makeup. We're done with

12:30

it. But they were still kiss. Years.

12:33

This is a true story. I mean, you're

12:36

right. They were still kiss and free years,

12:38

more than a decade. They went

12:40

without makeup. And you know, the first

12:42

time they put the makeup back on

12:44

was at the Grammys when they were

12:47

presenting an award with Koopuck and

12:49

it was an award as Hootie the Blowfish won. And that was

12:51

the first time they were in makeup since like 79 or something.

12:54

It was crazy, man. That was so awesome.

12:57

I mean, look, it's like Tiger

12:59

in his Sunday red. Like,

13:01

yeah, you want to see kiss with

13:04

the makeup. You want to see Tiger with

13:06

the red and black. You just do. Absolutely.

13:08

Absolutely. And that's what, and watching, you know,

13:12

it was just watching kissing those,

13:14

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13:17

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13:19

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Do you find that when you sing songs

14:48

that you wrote when you were a much

14:50

younger man that the meaning changes for

14:52

you when you sing them? Because I find that

14:54

with artists that I've loved and grown up with,

14:57

is like I know the lyrics, they're the same lyrics that I

14:59

was listening to when I was 18. They

15:01

haven't changed them, but now I'm hearing them

15:03

sing them as a

15:06

different place in their life, I'm hearing it in a

15:08

different place in my life, exact same song means a

15:10

completely different thing to me. Oh,

15:12

all the time. You know, for me,

15:14

like when I wrote a song, I let her cry.

15:17

I was such a different guy, I was a

15:19

young drunk kid, you know, and I sing

15:21

that now with two daughters and,

15:24

you know, after living all the, you know, it

15:26

just means something different. And, but

15:28

that's the, that's the great thing about music. That's

15:30

the great thing about lyrics. I agree with you

15:32

all the time. You know, all those bands I

15:34

used to listen to back in the day is

15:36

REM and the dead and all those bands, all

15:38

those lyrics that I thought meant something, mean something

15:40

totally different. I just saw Neil Young play at

15:42

the Roxy. It was like, it was insane. And

15:44

he's in his eighties and you know, he's out

15:46

there with that guitars like, you know, is

15:49

gnarly. He's one of the best shows

15:51

I've ever seen. Neil? Yeah.

15:55

Yeah. One of the best shows I've ever seen. Great.

15:58

It's interesting because he's a showman in such. a

16:00

different way than other people because

16:02

he gives off very much, I don't give a

16:05

fuck energy. It's like, do you know

16:07

what I'm saying? It's like, and

16:09

yet he is a showman. By the way,

16:11

what's the opposite of tight band? Like,

16:17

because, bro, dude, I'm

16:19

telling you. I'm

16:24

no aficionado. I know my way around

16:26

music a little bit, but it, I

16:29

mean, ragged doesn't even begin.

16:32

Like, Bruce Springsteen, who I know well, he

16:35

would commit ceremonial suicide

16:37

before he would play

16:39

a set like Neil Young did. You

16:42

know what I mean? You're both great. Yeah,

16:45

I know what you mean. I know what you mean. I

16:48

know exactly what you mean. But that's

16:50

what, that's one of the cool things about

16:52

Neil. They play so loose and, you know,

16:54

his voice carries it all. I mean, that's

16:56

Neil. But I know exactly

16:58

what you're talking about. So David Foster, the

17:00

music producer and great arranger, he's an old,

17:03

old, old great friend of mine. And

17:05

he did the Canadian We Are The World

17:07

song. Do you remember this? Yeah. Everybody

17:10

did their We Are The World. There's the Irish, the

17:12

Canadian, there's like, apparently a thousand of them. So

17:15

David produces the Canadian and

17:18

he's got Neil in the vocal booth. Now

17:21

David famously doesn't get

17:24

three chord rocker. Hates it. Like

17:27

proudly doesn't get, same

17:30

three chords over and over and over

17:32

again. And he has perfect

17:34

pitch. So this is

17:36

the worst marriage ever

17:38

made. Yes, ever. Ever

17:40

made. Yes. And

17:42

sure enough, Neil, on

17:44

line three, you're flat on the

17:47

word bill and then a little

17:49

pitchy on the second lyric.

17:52

And Neil's like, it's my style, man. But

17:54

I just love the notes. You're

17:58

flat and you're pitchy. Absolutely.

20:02

Like that song. Right? Do you know

20:04

what I'm saying? I'm with you 100 percent. That's

20:06

the beauty of it. People say you never know

20:09

what a hit is. It's

20:13

a hit. I mean, it's

20:15

a song that everybody's going to want to listen to. It's

20:19

going to be so big people will get tired of it. No.

20:23

That's what happened. It's just

20:25

an amazing song. It is interesting, the

20:27

songs that you don't get tired of. I don't

20:29

know what to attribute. I can hear Rocket

20:32

Man by Elton. A million times.

20:35

I agree. A million times. It doesn't matter. I've never

20:37

turned it off. I agree. I've never changed

20:39

the thing. Never. I

20:42

agree. I know. They're just songs

20:45

like that. I don't know what to attribute

20:47

it to. Is it when we heard them?

20:49

What they imprinted on us the first time

20:51

we heard them? Or is there something

20:53

now? I mean, music is now. I

20:56

wonder if you want the AI

20:58

super computer to run

21:01

all of those together and find out what cracked

21:03

that code. Can you imagine if you had that

21:05

code? Oh, yeah. Can

21:08

you imagine? Yeah. Some people have it. I

21:12

always thought guys like

21:14

Sting, Sting literally, I think at

21:17

one point said, I have to

21:19

stop myself from writing hits. I

21:21

have to. I remember that. Yeah. Do

21:23

you know what I mean? Absolutely. I

21:26

really do think that some people just can't help them,

21:28

so they just write fucking hit after hit. Yeah. And

21:30

they're like, they're just like, I'm not doing this anymore.

21:33

And you say Sting, that was always

21:35

one of those things about the early

21:37

police records. And the songs that they didn't

21:39

put out of singles were just amazing.

21:43

It was like, wow. Being

21:47

in that room trying to decide what a single is must be

21:49

pretty hard. But great songs

21:51

are great songs. The Dylan,

21:53

I actually went back and found and

21:55

listened to the Dylan wagon wheel. And

21:57

you're right. It's just that chorus. basically.

22:00

Yeah. That's all it is. And

22:03

it's from the sessions of Billy the

22:05

Kid and Pat Garrett. Pat

22:08

Garrett, which Knock on the Heaven's Door

22:10

comes from. Yeah. That's a really good record. And

22:13

that's a great record. That record is literally all just

22:15

choruses. There's not a bridge in it. Yeah.

22:17

I mean, literally, there's no bridge

22:19

in that song. It's chorus, chorus,

22:21

chorus, chorus songs over. Yeah.

22:24

Yeah. Yeah. Who

22:29

is your favorite? You've written with everybody.

22:31

Who blew your mind

22:33

when you sat in a room

22:35

to write with? Actually,

22:38

Gorley really blows my mind every time

22:40

I write with him. He's such a great songwriter. Ed Sheeran

22:42

blew my mind. I was going to ask you

22:44

about Sheeran because he seems like an

22:47

absolute genius, obviously. He's a

22:49

genius. He really, his melodies

22:52

and the way he sees lyrics and

22:54

sees things. The kid's a genius. I

22:56

was just blown away right with him.

22:59

Yeah. He's one of

23:01

the guys. He's an instant all-timer. Right?

23:03

I mean. Absolutely.

23:06

Instant all-timer. That's the best way to say

23:08

it. Instant all-timer. Right. He's great. Yeah.

23:11

Oh, why are you

23:14

a fan of the Cincinnati Reds? Now, the reason I ask

23:16

you this is I

23:19

grew up in Dayton, Ohio, during

23:21

the Big Red Machine. So I

23:23

lived, breathed, and I

23:25

know, and I'm still friendly with the current

23:27

owners of the Reds. And I will always

23:29

love the Reds, but eventually living in LA

23:32

and then living through the

23:34

Marge Shot Reds era, eventually the Dodgers beat

23:36

me into submission. And I'm now a Dyer

23:39

Dodger fan when they were rivals. Interestingly enough, they're

23:41

not rivals anymore. They're not in the same division.

23:43

There's a lot of reasons, but it's not what

23:45

it used to be. How did you get

23:47

to be a Reds fan? Because there's not so

23:50

many of them nationally, really, I don't think. You

23:52

know, when I was a kid, I guess

23:55

around six and seven, I started playing

23:57

all the organized sports. The

24:00

Big Red Machine. You know,

24:03

my favorite player ever is Dave

24:05

Concepcion. He's still my favorite, right?

24:07

Dave, could you come at me

24:09

with Dave Concepcion? He's my

24:11

favorite man of all time. Dave? Absolutely. Why?

24:14

Okay, hang on. Yeah. Why

24:16

Dave Concepcion? Listen, I love Dave

24:18

Concepcion. Who doesn't? I

24:21

mean, first of all, he was a vacuum, but every

24:23

time I played baseball, I

24:25

always played in the infield. And no matter where I

24:27

was, when the ball was hit to it, that's why I

24:29

always said Dave Concepcion. Oh, Dave Concepcion. That's him. And he

24:32

was my favorite player. Absolutely. He's

24:34

my favorite. And so I'm pretty

24:36

loyal to my teams. And I started liking them when I

24:38

was like six or seven, and I've been a big fan

24:40

ever since. Did you ever go to

24:42

Riverfront back in the day? Oh, yeah. I'm friends with,

24:44

back in the day, I went to a couple games,

24:46

but I'm friends with the owners. And I go to,

24:48

I try to go to a game or two every

24:50

year. I didn't get to get there this year, because

24:52

I was touring so much. But

24:55

I love them. You know, I was hoping they got

24:57

into playoffs this year, because I know. Yeah,

24:59

that would have been so awesome. But of

25:01

course, it didn't happen. I need to look

25:03

up your swag. I need to look up

25:05

pictures of it. What your sports swag? You're

25:07

doing all, there's some new launches. Are you doing

25:10

now all 30 NFL teams? Is

25:12

that what it is? All 30 NFL

25:14

teams. Yeah. All

25:17

major league baseball teams with

25:20

fanatics. And so

25:22

to select colleges. What's

25:24

your take on it? What's your secret

25:26

sauce? The

25:28

one thing I always do is like, I got to

25:30

want to wear it. So you put

25:33

it out there. So that's a big thing. That's

25:35

a big thing. But you know, I don't

25:37

know. It's just, I love what

25:39

we're designing. I love what we're putting out. I

25:41

don't know if it's a secret sauce or anything,

25:44

but it's just, it's stuff that you would want to wear

25:46

to the game. What do you mean?

25:48

That's important to me. So when you make, yeah,

25:50

for sure. So when you make a license agreement

25:52

with NFL or MLB, what

25:54

stipulations, if any, do

25:56

they have? There has to be some creative guy

25:58

like, like you can't. turn the Cincinnati

26:00

Red Sea backwards. I mean, there has to be

26:03

something, right? No, you know, you have to be

26:05

true to all the logos. You know, that's part

26:07

of the deal. And you can't, you know, you

26:09

can't mess with anybody's brand or anything like

26:11

that. It's got to be and when

26:13

you do it, it all has to be uniform. If you do it for

26:15

one thing, you have to do it for all. And

26:18

so that, you know, that's, that's pretty

26:20

cool. And for me, I wouldn't, you know, I

26:22

want to go do all the throwback stuff. Okay,

26:25

okay. This is my thing. Okay, I just, I

26:27

told the owners this. I don't

26:30

like the reds

26:33

yield, like sideshow

26:37

Barker, riverboat,

26:39

gambler, with a

26:41

passion. I

26:44

know what you're talking about. I

26:47

want, I don't like Mr. Red

26:49

with a handlebar mustache. Yeah.

26:51

I want the old school Mr. Mr. Red, where he's

26:53

running. Yep. That's what

26:56

I'm talking about. I know, you know what

26:58

I'm talking about. I know exactly what you're

27:00

talking about. I want those like road, the

27:02

slate road, gray uniform. Oh yeah. Absolutely.

27:05

Absolutely. 100%

27:09

with just Cincinnati over the front. That's all we need. That's,

27:12

and the low stirrup sock,

27:15

cause you love sports and you love sports uniforms.

27:17

You're the perfect guy to ask about this. Um,

27:21

you look at, um, the

27:23

Laker era and those guys were this

27:25

super, super tight, tight, tight, tight, tight,

27:28

tight, tight, tight, tight, tight shorts. Yep.

27:30

And then all of a sudden they

27:34

were like balloon shorts that almost went

27:36

below the knee. Yeah. And,

27:38

and it, it probably came in

27:40

with Jordan. Yeah. And do you know

27:43

why Jordan was the first guy

27:45

cause he, he came up in the era where

27:47

all the stars were wearing tight, tight, tight, tight, tight.

27:49

Absolutely. Do you know, the tight ones

27:51

in North Carolina, you know, the tight ones on a

27:53

North Carolina and in

27:55

North, and isn't in the NBA. Do you know why?

27:58

Have you ever heard why? Never heard the story. No,

28:00

why? He refused to play

28:02

without his North Carolina shorts on.

28:05

Oh, under? Yeah. So they

28:07

had to be longer to cover his

28:09

North Carolina shorts. Everybody

28:12

sees that and now you have, you know, the Fab Five

28:14

and on and on and on. Isn't that cool?

28:16

Wow. That is cool. I never

28:18

do that. I never heard that story before.

28:20

That is cool. It's one of those things where like I've

28:22

heard it, I know it's true, but then it's been so

28:25

long since I remember where I heard it that I'm wondering,

28:27

I'm doubting my own. Oh yeah. I

28:29

got those stories. I have decades like that. You

28:33

kidding me? Yeah, I know

28:35

what you mean. Entire,

28:37

entire decades. Oh,

28:40

you sang at

28:43

Frank Sinatra's 80th

28:47

birthday party? Yeah,

28:49

that was one of the great days of my life, man.

28:52

I'd say. I

28:54

became kind of friends with George Slater. And

28:58

George asked us, we were hot. We were so

29:00

hot. So he asked us, we'd play. And

29:04

I was like, please. And so they

29:06

asked the song I wanted to play. I said, ladies, a trap. And

29:08

so they sent us this tape and I got to hand it

29:10

to the guy. The arranger

29:13

did a great job. He arranged it. He

29:15

arranged it. And it sounded like the only one

29:17

we would do. I mean, it really did. It

29:19

was a really cool. It was a rock and roll

29:21

arrangement of the song. And we

29:23

listened to it. And I was like, I don't want to do that. So

29:27

I called George up and I go, hey, man, we

29:30

want to do that Clint T. Jones

29:32

thing from 64. I

29:34

was like, let's do it with the big band, Woolworth Suits,

29:37

and Sony will play the drums. And well, let's do

29:39

it like that. He said, OK. And

29:42

so we get there. We rehearse it. It's

29:44

great. And so the

29:46

show starts. And

29:48

I mean, everybody's there. I

29:51

mean, everybody's, Dylan, Springsteen,

29:55

Rose, everybody

29:57

is there. So

30:00

where are you? Where in LA? And

30:05

so the show starts and Frank's sitting there

30:07

with Barbara and the show

30:10

starts and Frank's 80. He's not

30:12

really paying attention to the guy. Backstage he's

30:14

got like five TVs up

30:17

and one of the TVs is always on Frank and you can

30:19

see it. And

30:21

he's not really paying much attention and Barbara's like

30:23

hitting him and he's watching and thinking along. We're

30:26

like we're thinking this is going to be a

30:28

disaster. He's going to hate us. And

30:31

so we get out there man and

30:33

we do ladies of travel. We kill him. I mean the horns

30:36

were amazing. Everything was just perfect. It

30:38

was great. And

30:40

we finish and Mr. Sinatra stands

30:43

up and he makes me come over and

30:45

he shakes my hand and says son

30:47

that was great. And it was unbelievable.

30:50

It was just one of the great days of my life. I'll

30:52

never forget that day. Oh that's

30:54

pressure. How fun is that though

30:56

right? That was fun. That was one of

30:58

the best things I ever got to do.

31:00

That was so awesome. And the best

31:03

part of it is we're taking a big picture and

31:05

Don Rickles comes in the room and does

31:07

15 minutes on Hootie the Boat. It

31:10

was awesome. He crushed us. He

31:12

just destroyed us. He destroyed you right? It

31:14

was awesome. It was like yeah I went

31:17

to Frank's the other day. Frank said well Frank what are you doing? He

31:19

said call my Hootie. It was awesome. It

31:21

was really awesome. Yeah that was a great day. By

31:24

the way another great cultural thing is

31:26

in one of my favorite

31:28

movies ever Jerry McGuire. Oh yeah

31:31

yeah that was that was cool. That was

31:34

cool. Okay were you in the did were

31:36

you like in the theater unsuspecting Lee watching

31:38

or did you hear about it before you

31:41

saw? Oh we heard we heard about it before. You

31:43

knew it's goddamn. Yeah no we didn't hear

31:45

about before the movie. Like the movie had such a big opening

31:48

that all of our friends were calling us

31:50

about it. That's how we

31:52

heard about it. Yeah yeah. It's such a

31:54

great moment. It was

31:56

funny because when I met Cuba you know

31:58

it was like you You're Hootie, and he's

32:00

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32:02

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32:05

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36:20

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36:23

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36:25

know a little bit about Grand Ole Opry, but

36:27

it was the famous radio show

36:30

across the South, right? Every,

36:32

what, Saturday or whatever it was, right? Absolutely,

36:36

every Friday and Saturday. And

36:38

it was just a big radio show. Everybody,

36:41

back in the day, early on, it

36:43

really was the catalyst to make country music a good place.

36:45

And I think that's what I'm talking about. I

36:47

think that's what I'm talking about. It

36:50

really was the catalyst to make

36:52

country music as big as it is. That

36:54

show had all the big stars on, and you could

36:56

get it all over the country on AM radio. But

36:59

yeah, it is... It's

37:02

the heart of country music, really. It

37:04

is. And the building's still there, right?

37:06

It's still the original... The

37:08

Ryman, yeah. The Ryman's still there. The

37:11

Opry's built their own place up at the Opry House,

37:13

but they have it at the Ryman like a couple

37:15

weeks every year. Amazing. Tell

37:17

me about the next tour that you're going out on. When

37:20

do you head out? Well,

37:22

you know, next year's the 30th anniversary

37:24

of Cracked Review, so

37:26

I think Hootie's going to go out and do another tour. We haven't

37:28

been out since 19. And

37:31

19 was so successful, so I think we'll get together,

37:33

go out and do a couple months out there. That's

37:36

great. It's probably too small a venue, but hopefully you

37:38

come to Santa Barbara and play the Santa Barbara Bowl.

37:40

I love that place. Isn't it

37:42

great? I love it. I

37:45

love that place. Tell them to book you.

37:49

I mean, that's my neighborhood, and

37:51

it's the best. It's

37:53

one of my favorite venues ever. I

37:56

love that place. It's really awesome. I'm

37:59

going to try to get in there. I like that place a lot. So

38:01

you'll come up and we'll do Santa Barbara Bowl. I'll

38:03

take you golf. We'll golf Deal.

38:06

We'll do golf day there. We'll do the bowl.

38:08

There's a lot of good golf up in Santa Barbara.

38:10

Oh For

38:13

sure for sure and

38:15

we'll wear our team PXG

38:17

shit And and you give me

38:19

a red set you give me a red set. I will with

38:22

no handlebar mustache. Mr. Red I You

38:26

did you listen to the the Reds on

38:28

the radio as a kid? No,

38:31

we we were uh, you know The

38:33

only way I saw them were the

38:35

back then was the game

38:37

of the week. Oh the game or the game

38:39

of the week Yeah, yeah,

38:41

I saw the red Week

38:44

and then the playoffs but we were the playoffs every year.

38:46

So oh I got to listen to him It

38:48

was great at Marty Brenneman

38:50

and Joe Nuxall the two best and

38:53

Joe Nuxall just hammered always

38:57

And he had and he had the greatest sign-off ever Because

39:00

he was he was the youngest pitcher still is

39:02

the youngest pitcher ever to pitch professionally in the

39:04

major leagues He was 17 really? Oh, wow in

39:06

the run up to World War two. There were

39:08

no men like

39:10

everybody's fine, so he was 17 and And

39:13

but his sign-off will be this

39:16

is a left-hander rounding third and

39:18

headed for home Pretty

39:24

sick Yeah,

39:29

yeah, so good and then we'll get a real

39:31

good maybe do a red thing any anyway lot

39:33

You and I have a lot in common. It

39:35

was great having you on this. I was super

39:37

psyched To do this man,

39:39

and I'm I'm so happy that you guys are

39:41

gonna be back out on tour

39:43

That's really gonna be great for you guys

39:45

and for the audience are gonna love it. Well,

39:48

thank you, man Great talk to you. I'm a huge fan dude.

39:50

Yeah, I want to play golf if you got a place to

39:53

golf together Yeah, no for sure. Yeah,

39:55

you've you've inspired me to do to

39:57

do Tahoe because Yeah,

40:00

it's beblem. It is

40:03

the other ones are so buttoned down. It's like like

40:05

I get odd just thinking about

40:09

AT&T. Yes What

40:13

about the one at the memorial because I actually

40:15

do think I'm gonna do the one at the

40:17

memorial this year Cuz my friend when he he's

40:19

gonna get me he this is um my

40:22

guys who started Work

40:24

week he that's his like he's the funder

40:26

of it and he says I'll get you in and out and

40:28

I can do this I think that one I am gonna do

40:30

this year. You sure that's a lot of fun. I played it

40:33

before it's a lot of fun You know, what's

40:35

one those really cool laid-back ones. It's not really stuffy at

40:37

all. It's a lot of fun, right? Awesome.

40:40

All right. Well try to get

40:42

in it. Well, we'll meet up on the on

40:44

the practice tee for sure All

40:46

right, man. Thank you so much. It was great.

40:48

Really good. Great talking to you. Thanks, man. Take

40:50

care I

41:00

What a great dude, that was so fun.

41:02

I hope you all learned a lot about golf and

41:06

swag On

41:09

that one. Oh my goodness. Anyway,

41:11

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Samadhi client from Santa Fe, New

41:44

Mexico And you may

41:46

have mentioned this on your show before but

41:48

what is your go-to karaoke song?

41:53

Have a nice day. Oh, okay.

41:55

Hang on. Can um, can you bring me

41:57

my phone in to the booth? Okay

42:00

Robin, I have it on my phone. I

42:04

decided this year, because I

42:06

don't know about you, you decide you

42:08

want to karaoke, you're out, you didn't plan

42:10

for it, and now the pressure's on. And

42:12

maybe they have one of those awful books and you're going

42:15

through all the songs and you don't know what's in your

42:17

key and then you default to something you've done a thousand

42:19

times before. So not that I

42:21

take it seriously or not, but I have it on

42:23

my phone. So I'm gonna open up my notes and

42:25

I'm gonna answer you. Literally,

42:29

I'm literally gonna give you the answer. Okay,

42:31

hang on, bear with me. Karaoke, there it is.

42:35

Karaoke. Now, I'm just warning

42:37

you, don't judge me. The

42:39

thing about, I think there's a certain thing

42:43

one needs to be cognizant on

42:45

of karaoke. You have

42:47

to know your audience. Nobody wants you

42:50

to sing I Will Always Love You from

42:52

the bodyguard unless you can really sing. Usually

42:55

it has to be upbeat, but

42:58

I don't wanna sing some

43:01

hacky thing that 70,000 people have sung.

43:05

So with that, Werewolves of

43:07

London, Throwdown,

43:10

Cracklin' Rosie, Neil Diamond,

43:13

notice it's not Sweet Caroline. No,

43:16

no, that needs to be retired from karaoke. No

43:19

one should ever sing that song again. It's a great

43:21

song, I love that song. Enough. Come

43:24

Monday, Jimmy Buffett. Notice

43:28

it's not Margaritaville.

43:31

It's Come Monday, great song. And Come Monday

43:33

is as close to taking as

43:35

a serious song as I think anybody should be allowed

43:38

to sing. Fins,

43:40

Jimmy Buffett, Deep Cut, Runaway

43:42

Train, the 90s song from the 90s,

43:44

that's a good one. And

43:46

then I have two Deep Cut one-hit

43:48

wonders from my childhood.

43:52

It never rains in California, and

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the song Indiana Wants Me.

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Probably never. I've never heard of some of them. Look them

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up. That's my list. Great

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question. Thank

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you for listening. And as

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always, this show doesn't exist without you

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guys out there. And it's really

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appreciated by me. And I love being

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to literally. Warms

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my heart. So please keep it up and join

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us next week. We've

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got some really good guests coming up. And next week's a

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doozy. See you then. You've

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been listening to Literally with Rob Lowe,

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44:43

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