2:00

And it won't be worth it. It's much

2:02

better to be in a nice air-conditioned

2:04

gymnasium. Okay, so I

2:06

was looking over all this stuff about you,

2:08

which makes me laugh. It's funny when

2:11

I'm interviewing somebody that I know and love, but

2:13

then I get the fact to wait. Okay,

2:15

first of all, Tally Savalas really is

2:17

your godfather, really? Is that true? A

2:20

hundred percent. I have a picture I could show you,

2:22

but the people at home wouldn't

2:24

know what I'm showing you. Okay.

2:27

Yeah. And you wanted to be actors

2:29

when you were kids. Your

2:32

father was an actor, obviously, but

2:34

you knew you wanted to do

2:36

it. How young would you say? Eleven.

2:38

Eleven. So right off

2:41

the bat, what was the

2:43

early auditioning period like for you? I

2:45

love sharing audition horror stories. It's my

2:47

favorite. I want to do a coffee

2:49

table book. Wait, here's what I really want to do.

2:51

A coffee table book. Did you ever have what they

2:54

called a composite? When you were like doing your baseball

2:56

or your nerd look or the sort

2:59

of sciencey person. Yeah, no, I didn't

3:01

have that. My

3:03

mom took my headshot. Oh, you kept it in-house. I

3:05

like that. Yeah. But my

3:08

mom was a headshot photographer for a spell. She

3:11

did a lot of things, one of them being headshot

3:14

photographer for a period of time. So

3:16

it worked in my

3:18

favor. And then I remember moving out to California when

3:22

I was 20 and needing

3:25

new headshots. And I had to borrow

3:27

a hundred bucks from my friend to say,

3:29

can I please, I need, I have no money and I

3:31

need to get headshot. Did you have

3:33

somebody in your auditioning life that was always

3:35

like you're cursed, like foiled

3:37

again by so and so who got the

3:40

pilot that you didn't want? Because I for

3:42

a minute had a guy named Raphael Savarge.

3:45

Tim Hutton used to just kill me for

3:47

a long time. Yeah, Tim

3:50

Hutton, he was one to be,

3:52

he was a nemesis. Did you

3:54

have a nemesis? I didn't.

3:57

No. I don't really think, no, I didn't. I

3:59

mean, I. was definitely the callback

4:01

queen. I used to always get a callback,

4:04

always get a callback, and then

4:06

it was just, I was very

4:08

comfortable with never getting the job.

4:10

I wasn't like, oh god, again.

4:13

But I kind of, I don't, it was always

4:15

a shock when it happened. And the

4:18

same thing was whenever a show

4:20

would get picked up, I was

4:23

used to doing a show and having it go,

4:25

you know, six to 13 episodes,

4:28

and then they'd get cancelled and you'd do

4:30

another one. So like when Friends

4:32

was picked up for the back nine or whatever, I was

4:35

like, what's that? Yeah,

4:37

the back nine, we're going golfing? We're going golfing in the

4:39

back nine? What? It was

4:41

such a big deal. But auditions were

4:43

just awful. Am I wrong that

4:45

they really wanted you for Friends, but there was

4:47

some other really hot pilot who was hot, and

4:49

you were like, it was gonna happen and like

4:52

it was the thing and you were on it

4:54

and they're like, damn it, we got to get

4:56

an aniston for this. And then-

4:58

No, Friends was that hot pilot. I was

5:00

on another show. I was

5:02

on a show called Muddling Through. And

5:07

then we weren't sure if that was getting picked up, so I was then

5:10

auditioning. So I got Friends

5:12

in second position. We don't use these terms.

5:14

We don't say these things anymore, do we?

5:16

I mean, second position? Remember? Yeah,

5:19

I think to the uninitiated second

5:21

position sounds a lot more interesting

5:23

than Muddling Through. Yeah, literally.

5:25

I love that show. There was

5:28

nothing against that show. But when I read

5:30

that script for

5:32

Friends, it was all my contemporaries and

5:35

a group of- it was the life I had

5:37

actually been living at the time in Laurel

5:39

Canyon. With my friends, we all lived on

5:41

the same street in

5:43

Laurel Canyon on a street called Beach Knoll. And

5:47

we were all in these little rentals scattered

5:49

through this one street. And we would pop

5:51

over just to each other's houses randomly. And

5:55

then Friends came along, you

5:57

know, of course, in my brain, and the guy manifested this.

6:00

And then that was it. I always think

6:02

about because I'm so shallow and

6:05

narcissistic and all I care about is

6:07

my own

6:09

looks and other people's looks that I instantly

6:11

think about the Rachel, the famous Rachel haircut

6:13

and the day that I

6:16

just like to imagine you and Chris McMillan sitting

6:19

in front of a mirror going, what

6:21

do you think? Like this late? No, or what

6:23

about that? I mean... I wish it was

6:25

a conversation. I wish it was so much. I wish

6:27

it was that I was a... I

6:30

had literally no idea what even

6:32

getting your hair done was. I mean, except

6:34

for like walking into a random

6:37

store and like super cuts or

6:39

St. Mark's. What

6:42

was that? After place in New York

6:44

City? Yeah, totally. Yeah,

6:46

yeah, yeah. And you just go wait in line and someone would

6:48

just give you a haircut whether you didn't have... You

6:51

had no say in what it was. They just sort of did it.

6:54

And then when I met Chris, my

6:56

manager had sent me to Chris McMillan

6:59

basically saying like this is a disaster. You

7:02

need to go. We need to fix this.

7:04

And then... Make it look like a TV

7:06

star. Something, yeah. And then I went into

7:08

Chris's chair and he just... I said hi,

7:10

nice to meet you. And then he just

7:13

like Edward Scissorhands chopped it all up and that was

7:15

it. And then I was left

7:17

with it. It wasn't a very manageable

7:20

haircut to do on one's own. There

7:23

has to have been a men's version of

7:25

the Rachel, i.e. a haircut

7:28

that some actor showed up with, male

7:30

actor and people went, oh

7:32

my... You know what? It might be

7:34

your ex's Brad in the Tank movie because everybody had

7:36

to have that haircut. In the which one? The Tank

7:39

movie. Fury. Tank... Oh,

7:42

but the buzz cut? Yeah, the Fury

7:44

haircut. Yeah, everybody had that haircut after Fury.

7:47

Everybody. What about you though?

7:49

You know what? I watched recently because it's

7:51

one of my favorite movies of all time

7:53

and it literally... I

7:56

went through this period during the quarantine.

7:58

I mean, it feels like... yesterday but time

8:00

is really means nothing to me these days because

8:02

it's what was yesterday was actually a year ago

8:04

and what was a year ago was yesterday. St.

8:08

Elmo's fire. Oh. You

8:12

had that mullet. Remember how that look was

8:14

kind of a big deal in the 80s?

8:18

The mullet was big time. I mean... That

8:20

short on top and it tight kind of at the side

8:22

and then it went a little shaggy at the bottom. Yeah.

8:26

It was supposed to be hair extensions.

8:28

Joel Schumacher, the director wanted me to

8:30

actually have hair extensions and I got

8:32

lost on the way to the

8:34

hair extension guy's place in the valley. What? They

8:37

did that back then? Yes. I'd never even heard of

8:39

them. I didn't know what they were. Wow. But

8:42

apparently my hair was already... That was what my hair was like. So

8:44

what would they have extended it to? Like

8:47

my butt? Like how long would it

8:49

have been? Exactly. What

8:51

was Joel going for? And you know what? We watched

8:53

that. I'm sorry to go back to this. When did

8:55

he pass away? About a year ago. Just about

8:57

a year ago. Boy, I miss

9:01

movies like that. He wanted to

9:03

make a Manhattan for young people. And

9:05

so it sort of had that kind

9:07

of like... It treated

9:09

those people like... It's like same thing friends

9:12

did. Friends... It

9:14

treated those young characters

9:17

with respect. And

9:19

it was like... They were both funny

9:21

and goofy and all that stuff. But it wasn't like...

9:23

It didn't feel pandering or any of that. You know

9:25

what I mean? And I think that's why people like

9:27

that movie so much still. It was very simple. There

9:31

was something that was just very relatable

9:34

that you had... It was easily identifiable and

9:36

you kind of... It was you. It

9:39

was just an extension of the audience having an

9:41

experience, a human experience. Very

9:43

simple. Right? Yes. And

9:47

I think... Again, the same experience you had with friends.

9:49

I think you... They wanted you for a different part

9:51

but you wanted to play Rachel. Is that what

9:53

I'm thinking? Or are they... They wanted

9:55

me for Monica and they wanted court

9:57

for Rachel. So

10:00

that was the, so I got

10:02

the audition to, you know, and that was for

10:04

Monica Geller. And then I read the script and

10:06

I said, I feel like I'd have

10:08

more fun with Rachel. And

10:10

the court had the same instinct. She

10:13

read it and thought, I

10:15

feel a little bit more like

10:17

a Monica. I love that because they wanted

10:19

me to play the Judd Nelson part in C.

10:22

N. Elisaur. In fact, they didn't want to

10:24

see me at all. I was listening to

10:26

Molly Ringwald, by the way, speaking of this

10:29

period of time in those movies and Judd Nelson. You

10:32

wanted, you auditioned for the Breakfast

10:34

Club for the Judd Nelson role. Yeah, John Hughes

10:36

was not having what I was selling. That was the only

10:38

thing. Did you ever have somebody who just was not in

10:40

the Jennifer Aniston business no matter what you did? Oh,

10:43

everybody. I could

10:46

not get, you don't understand. I couldn't

10:48

get commercials. There was

10:50

like a period of time where I

10:52

just was like, I'm just going to be

10:54

a professional waitress who like auditions on the side. There

10:58

was nobody having what I

11:00

was serving up. I

11:04

mean, honestly, until I'm

11:06

trying to think of what my

11:08

first job was. Oh, it

11:10

was a Bob's Big Boy commercial. That was

11:12

the first job I got was a Bob's

11:15

Big Boy commercial. Did you have any dialogue? Shrimp's

11:19

up. The shrimp is up or something. And I

11:21

wasn't even Bob's Big Boy. I

11:24

was the fast food chain of not

11:26

to go to. So

11:28

I wasn't even representing Bob's Big Boy. I was sort

11:30

of the waitress at the not,

11:32

don't go to the same place. Oh, I see.

11:35

You should go to Bob's Big

11:37

Boy. One of my first was Carl's Jr. Oh,

11:40

wow. And my dialogue,

11:42

mine was I've got taste. The

11:45

little moment, the little tiny wins will

11:47

end up being a big, big win

11:49

eventually if you can. I

11:52

think it also has something to do with not really being

11:55

that attached to an outcome. Right?

11:59

Right. enjoy

12:01

where you're

12:04

at. I wouldn't say a lack of ambition, but I

12:06

didn't have that like, I've got to get

12:08

to that like, you know, that

12:10

place. I was just kind of enjoying

12:13

the ride. You have way better perspective than I

12:15

had. But you're chill. You're very

12:17

chill. I mean, that's my impression of

12:19

you. I think it's a good one, right?

12:21

You're chill. Yeah. Do you

12:23

practice TM? Did I see this right?

12:26

Yes. I am loving

12:28

TM, Transcendental Meditation. Wonderful. Yes.

12:30

Do you? Okay. I need to get some life

12:33

hacks, as they say. Okay. Okay. Do you

12:36

religiously do it twice a

12:38

day? No. Okay. Good. I feel good. Yeah.

12:41

No. It's something, you know, I

12:43

do notice when I do

12:45

it twice a day, there is

12:47

a noticeable difference. And

12:50

I can't put my finger on what that

12:52

is because it's not really tangible. But

12:56

I feel a difference. Same.

12:58

No idea what it is. And if

13:00

I'm not keeping

13:02

up with that practice, there's

13:06

a noticeable difference. And it feels something

13:08

just feels off. For me, what

13:10

it is is I'm just way less

13:12

irritable. Yeah. Yeah. Would you say

13:14

you're a structure, you like structure?

13:16

Yes. I don't idle well.

13:18

Let's say that. Do you know what

13:20

I mean? I'm happy in

13:22

my own company. Yeah. I

13:24

love Dev. I'm good with that. Yeah.

13:27

And I'm happy to sit in daydream

13:30

and do nothing. But. For only for

13:32

a period of time though. That's right.

13:34

Only for a very succinct period. How

13:36

did you get into TM? Who turned

13:38

you onto it? I would say it was

13:41

David Lynch benefit at Radio City Music

13:43

Hall in 2009 or 10. There was

13:46

like the David

13:48

Lynch Foundation. Paul McCartney and Ringo

13:50

Starr were going to be performing

13:52

for the first time together. Jerry

13:54

Seinfeld did some stand up.

13:56

And I remember just learning about it and

13:59

see. these films, this

14:02

clip that they put together of the

14:05

Beatles and I mean even

14:07

Howard Stern was there because he's a big

14:09

TM guy, you know. And

14:12

I was just taken by it and I thought this

14:14

is something I want to really look into

14:16

and then a couple of years later,

14:19

I think it was actually the next year I met,

14:21

I found a wonderful person

14:26

named Penny who came

14:28

and sort of gave

14:30

me my mantra and took me through a few days and

14:32

like an hour a day for five

14:34

days. You sit and you

14:36

kind of go through what it is, you learn

14:38

about it and that was it when I

14:41

got my mantra and it's my mantra

14:44

to this day and we're sticking to

14:46

it. My friend had

14:48

a frustrating experience because he really,

14:51

he got a mantra that he

14:53

cannot, the

14:55

mantra, he identifies it was something really

14:57

negative in his life. So

15:01

I remember him saying I need to

15:03

change my mantra and the person was

15:05

like, you actually can't, you're

15:07

stuck with it for life. I

15:10

didn't know that, really? Yeah. So

15:12

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17:16

Huh? Huh? Hey, I

17:18

need to. What on earth? People come in

17:20

and they go, I would like that body

17:22

type and then they kind of, yeah.

17:25

I mean, I understand that with a haircut coming

17:28

in and saying, you know, I did

17:30

that with Valerie Bertinelli. I walked into Vidao

17:32

session when I was a kid, right? I

17:35

wanted that little one day at a time shag.

17:38

She had that ingora sweater, red ingora sweater

17:41

on the cover of People magazine. Like

17:45

from 1912. And

17:47

I walked in and handed

17:49

that haircut. But I don't

17:51

understand that request. It's

17:53

sort of sad actually when you think about so many

17:56

people. And I think that's a bit of an unfortunate

17:59

thing. part of social media today

18:01

is that is creating

18:03

those kind of desires

18:06

of, you know, things

18:08

that are not real or attainable, you

18:10

know? Yeah. I'm

18:13

glad that my kids,

18:16

first of all, I think it's tougher

18:18

for girls than boys, and I'm glad that my

18:20

kids were the last

18:22

generation to really come up in

18:25

their formative years without social media. I feel

18:27

the same way. Aren't we lucky, though? I'm

18:30

so lucky. Apparently, when

18:32

you finally decided to break down and

18:34

join Instagram, that

18:37

you broke the world record for

18:39

fastest time to reach a million

18:41

followers on Instagram, five hours

18:43

and 16 minutes.

18:46

That was my goal, you know? I, you got

18:48

to have goals, and that was one of mine,

18:50

and I think I actually have a, I have

18:52

a plaque, actually, from the Guinness Book of

18:54

World Records. That's so

18:56

good. No, you can't. Isn't that

18:59

cool? I shouldn't

19:01

have it up in my office. Listen,

19:03

the great Ty Cobb said it isn't bragging

19:05

if you've done it. Just taking the facts.

19:08

Records are made to be broken, let's face it. Sure.

19:11

Yeah. And it says something like who breaks

19:13

the record is almost as important as getting the record

19:15

in the first place, I think. Check

19:18

this out. How cool is this? Your

19:20

record was broken by Sir David

19:22

Attenborough. That is absolutely

19:24

incredible, which also, I

19:26

find that that also says something. Right?

19:29

I think so. I recently

19:32

joined, and it's not coming out of

19:34

my mouth, it's just I want

19:36

to murder my own self. Just for what? TikTok.

19:40

I was at this dinner with a bunch of tech

19:43

guys, and they were like, look, TikTok

19:46

is it right now.

19:49

A lot of stupid dances and the

19:51

new iterations of Ice Bucket challenges and

19:54

dogs dancing and stuff, but what

19:57

it eventually is going to be is where you're going to get all

19:59

your news, you're going to get It's going to be the biggest thing

20:01

in the world. It is absolutely

20:03

going to be the biggest thing in the world,

20:05

the biggest company in the world. It already is

20:07

in China. It is not even

20:10

– in China, it's where everybody does everything. It's

20:12

like you get your news, you do everything. It's

20:14

not this goofy sort of adolescent thing that it

20:16

feels like it is here, and it's going to

20:18

age up into that eventually in

20:21

our country. So get on it now and do it.

20:23

But don't they just like – like

20:26

20-second clips? Yeah,

20:28

but you still get your news. I

20:32

got more information about pulling out

20:35

of Afghanistan off TikTok. Then I

20:37

have no idea what – if we're even talking about the same

20:39

thing because I am. No, we are, but I didn't know

20:41

that's what it was. I literally thought it was here's

20:43

a panda bear and he's dancing. And it

20:46

is that, but it's also as –

20:48

this happened five minutes ago at the Bagram Air

20:51

Force Base. I'm going

20:53

to do a deep dive on that. Do a deep

20:55

dive on it. Okay, I want to talk to you

20:57

about the morning show because I'm loving

20:59

it. Are you – did

21:01

you find it different at all coming back to

21:05

television and – it's

21:08

such a different world, don't you think, doing whatever, eight

21:10

or ten episodes, however many of you guys do, versus

21:12

22? You would sometimes do

21:14

22, friends, right? 22. We

21:16

would do 22 episodes and then

21:18

we would have what they call wrap

21:21

arounds, which were sort of –

21:23

you would shoot over a couple weeks and they

21:25

would piece it together and it would become one

21:27

show. But going back

21:30

to television, it doesn't – it feels

21:32

so different now because I feel like

21:34

we're just shooting a movie. It

21:37

feels like you're shooting a movie, but you're just doing

21:39

– there's way

21:41

more material in a day. It's

21:44

killer. Killer good

21:46

or killer bad? Both. It's

21:49

like it killed me. I'm still – we're still

21:51

in post on season two and

21:54

everything, you know, shooting a show

21:56

during a pandemic, especially in

21:58

that proportion. being

22:00

a news show within a show, it was

22:03

just like it's enough to

22:06

put you under your covers for a

22:08

long time. And you obviously produce the show

22:10

as well. So when, and

22:12

your post, is it very hands-on for you?

22:15

Do you enjoy post as much as the

22:17

rest of it? I love being in

22:19

an editing room. And

22:21

we get to, you know, that's

22:25

what the fun is. We

22:27

just recently had this creative

22:29

disagreement amongst our producers about

22:31

our finale. And it

22:33

was just, it was very exciting and

22:35

invigorating as well as frustrating.

22:38

But just to be able to have that conversation

22:41

and have that collaboration and respect

22:43

everybody so

22:45

much that, you

22:48

know, eventually when you say, okay, I'm going to lay

22:50

down my sword, I'm not going to fall

22:52

on it for this one. So

22:54

those are fun and exciting moments. And

22:57

I just love everybody that I get to work with, all

23:00

of, every single one of them. It's

23:02

a great cast. The other thing I love about

23:04

you is you really embrace

23:06

and enjoy your time away from work.

23:09

Like you have fun. I do. You

23:11

have fun. I know you've always been a big Cabo girl.

23:13

Do you like Cabo still as much as I do? I

23:16

do. Well, it's also

23:18

really easy to get you. It's a quick,

23:20

it's a nice quick, you know, flight.

23:24

But I haven't been on a plane since January 2020. I

23:26

haven't gone anywhere. No, really? No. Wait,

23:29

do you try that? Do you remember MGM

23:32

air? Yeah, we

23:34

just were talking about this. Was that

23:36

like the Concord you mean? No. No,

23:39

MGM air was, it was like

23:41

this late 80s, mid

23:44

80s, late into the 90s and then it was over and

23:46

it was like this, these planes that had

23:49

like state rooms in

23:51

them and like couches and

23:53

you would get on it, but you

23:55

would never know who was going to go in the private

23:58

plane. It was a plane. Anybody could buy a. ticket

24:00

on it was expensive but you never know who was gonna

24:02

be on it or more importantly

24:04

who you'd be trapped next to like

24:07

on a couch. I just

24:09

remember being trapped next to

24:12

Ed McMahon. Oh my god. And

24:14

his little daughter was like, Daddy are you drinking

24:16

another one of your stinky tonics?

24:19

And then looking over at me going, I don't

24:21

know what she means. Stinky

24:23

Tonics. Ed McMahon.

24:25

I do remember being on Mulholland doing a

24:27

hike when I used to live up in

24:30

Laurel Canyon and I would run

24:32

into he and his wife that would be on

24:34

taking their walks on Mulholland. Was he

24:36

drinking a stinky tonic? Not at that time.

24:38

It was usually pretty early. I wasn't

24:40

up on his habits and his

24:43

times of the day he began

24:45

his departure from his tonic but

24:48

I think at this point of the day and the day

24:50

he was pretty much cleaning out

24:52

the day before. Did you

24:54

ever have a disastrous talk

24:56

show appearance? Yes

24:58

and no. My very first time I

25:01

was on Jay Leno I remember the

25:04

guest who was, it was Michael

25:06

Keaton, was the guest before me.

25:09

Amazing. And he ran out my

25:11

time. You got

25:13

bumped. I got bumped by Michael

25:15

Keaton and I remember it was it was

25:17

the beginning of friends, it was the first

25:19

year of friends and of course I was,

25:21

I did my own hair, I did my

25:23

own makeup, I had my outfit and

25:26

then I was sitting and I was

25:28

just so nervous and a

25:31

ridiculous overwhelming feeling of relief came over

25:33

when they said you were bumped. But

25:36

also huge disappointment at the

25:38

same time and I took my little Jay

25:40

Leno basket of treats in my whatever little

25:42

flower baskets and I just was in the

25:45

limo that they had hired for me to get there.

25:47

And just remember sort of driving

25:50

back home and taking my basket

25:52

from the Jay Leno show and going through it

25:54

and then I went back and two weeks later

25:57

put the same outfit on, I did the exact same thing. And

26:00

I got the same basket. And you killed it.

26:03

That I don't know. I don't remember. I

26:06

might have killed it depending on what that means, but

26:08

something happened. You know, I did

26:10

Kudrow's Who Do You Think You Are? It was one of

26:13

the most fun things I ever did. I

26:15

cannot wait. Wasn't it? Did

26:18

you? And they really are lock and key.

26:20

Like, they don't let you know anything. Oh, they

26:22

are deadly serious about it. So for those of

26:25

you who may not have seen the show, Lisa

26:27

produces, still does. It's a

26:29

show called Who Do You Think You Are? And

26:31

they literally call you up and go, hey, so

26:35

we would like to put a team

26:37

of genealogists on you

26:39

for the next year. And

26:42

if they find something interesting, then

26:45

the protocol is you will have eight

26:47

days of shooting. You

26:50

won't know where you're shooting or what you're shooting.

26:53

All we will tell you is bring a passport, and

26:56

we will tell you what climate of

26:59

clothes to hair. That's it. That's

27:01

all they tell you. And it's eight days. It's like,

27:04

it's hard. I was like, dude, I really want that.

27:06

It's such a hassle. And yet it's

27:08

the best thing I ever did. If you haven't

27:10

done it and you have the opportunity, I'm telling

27:12

you. What if you have no history? Well,

27:15

you know, the worst thing is, and they do find this,

27:17

when they – the only thing worse than finding nothing is

27:21

finding out like your great-grandfather was

27:24

in the Gestapo, which

27:26

they also do. They find that stuff

27:28

for sure. There have been a couple of folks like where they

27:30

have the stories like, you know what we – We

27:33

won't be telling you the story. But

27:35

now are you able to have

27:37

them keep – I

27:39

mean, what does happen? It's

27:41

all happening live, I mean, on camera.

27:45

There's no bad surprise. Right.

27:47

They're never going to do that. I

27:50

have to say, your episode, I'm so excited

27:52

now. There's something I get to watch. It's

27:55

super emotional. It explained

27:58

so much to me about – Why

28:00

I think the way I think and

28:03

what I'm interested in. The really radical

28:05

thing was why I am interested in

28:08

specific things down to why

28:10

I designed my house in

28:13

the manner in which I designed it. That's

28:15

incredible. Was

28:29

the reunion for you everything

28:31

you thought it would be or what were your

28:34

thoughts on it?

28:37

Were you always down to do it? Did you not know what you wanted it to be like? What

28:39

was that like for you? We

28:42

didn't know what it would

28:44

look like. I mean we'd been cheering about

28:46

it for a long time. We knew that

28:48

people wanted it. Sam's really wanted some kind

28:50

of a reunion. But

28:53

I unwrapped it perfectly, packaged it. Leave

28:56

it where it was. That's not disruptive.

28:59

So when Ben Winston, our

29:01

producer director, kind of came to

29:03

each of us with his idea, it

29:06

just resonated with all of us. And it didn't

29:09

sound like something that would

29:11

cheapen or tarnish something that

29:14

was perfectly left in its place. But

29:19

I think it really took us all down

29:21

way harder than we anticipated. Really? Oh,

29:23

for sure. Because in your

29:25

mind, you think, oh, this will

29:28

be really fun to time travel. It

29:30

turns out, ooh, ouch. It's kind of hard

29:33

to time travel. Because you're going

29:35

back to a time. And mind you,

29:38

it is when I say the set

29:40

was put back exactly. It was the

29:42

exact same everything,

29:44

down to the little chachis on the shelves

29:47

and little tiny things that

29:49

had been in a storage space for this whole

29:51

time. All of a sudden, here you are.

29:55

And 16 years, a lot has

29:57

gone on for Each of us. Ten

30:00

years ago, we. Were all sort of wide

30:03

eyed, bushy tailed, and sort of had our

30:05

whole lives ahead of us even though we

30:07

were. Heartbroken to say goodbye

30:09

to. Beat these ten

30:11

years and this family and these people

30:13

and does. The the job the

30:15

on love to do and it brought

30:17

so much joy. To sands and.

30:20

And. Ourselves and beat it was just. it

30:22

was like having a happy til every single

30:24

day. And

30:27

then so simple. That your your ear

30:30

is it's just. I'll just get away,

30:32

that's that's kind of. Also, Of

30:35

melancholy. You know, Because

30:38

a lot has changed and we

30:40

had a we have all gone

30:42

down. Different rose. Not.

30:45

So easy and some easy and not some not

30:47

so easy for. Of for each of us, you know, He.

30:49

even for fence as a to watch it

30:51

and they go oh. Yeah.

30:53

This is. The use

30:56

of time trying to be a week before

30:58

you ask for asthma was grips of love

31:00

the obvious? Yep, but I think there's an

31:02

added. Second, Concussion

31:04

effect of like when you would when you

31:06

when you do Right now no one hundred

31:08

one hundred percent was to this brutal and

31:10

you also can't. Turn. It off You

31:13

know something you're like this is their

31:15

their cameras everywhere and I can't stop

31:17

running. Was was or

31:19

anything really really gnarly that they had to take

31:21

out with you. They are well, as you're sure

31:23

there. Was with. There is a period where we were

31:26

all kind of in a puddle. And that

31:28

that for sure. Maybe

31:30

Davidson's I don't think we'd for David.

31:33

Brooks Gees, At one

31:35

point you know Mr. Mr. Foster

31:38

home. Our our brother. Any trouble

31:40

in Mr. Impenetrable. Are dig in? a

31:42

brother who would kill anybody? They looked. At

31:44

you wrong He then he got to

31:46

see ah a very special recollection because

31:49

I was working on the West wing

31:51

yeah on the same blocks and I

31:53

just remember. you

31:55

guys would role in what wasn't of

31:58

it's use the boys the boys roll

32:00

in in the most amazing cars

32:03

like I really maybe around noon maybe one

32:05

o'clock you know. I'd

32:07

already I was I was already on my

32:09

fifth meal penalty lunch and then it was

32:11

like I was

32:15

like this is the charm like you

32:17

guys Friday nights you tape on Fridays correct? Yeah

32:20

yes. Friday nights I remember it well

32:23

you guys would come in you'd tape and that was

32:25

the big day. Friday's the biggest day of work right?

32:27

Well yeah. You said rapid. Yeah.

32:30

Midnight was an early night but

32:32

it was usually like two in the morning and then

32:35

we figured it out and you were there

32:37

for how many hours? So on the horrible

32:39

2 a.m. night

32:42

we were just warming up over on stage

32:44

24 because our first year

32:46

of West Wing on Friday

32:48

on Fridays we did not leave the

32:51

lot until Sunday morning when the sun

32:53

was coming up not once not

32:56

one Friday not once ever. So you

32:58

had a Friday basically? Yeah Friday. Man

33:00

that's brutal. I have to say

33:03

now with this kind of

33:05

television schedule that was that was an incredible

33:08

schedule to go in

33:10

at 10 a.m. you're done

33:12

by 5 and then

33:14

you know God forbid on Friday you have

33:17

a sort of little bit of

33:19

more than a 12-hour day which is

33:21

a luxury these days. So

33:24

you're in post now what's the next six months

33:26

what are you doing? Are you chilling? No I

33:29

start I'm gonna start Murder Mystery 2

33:31

with Mr. Sandler in January.

33:33

Okay where are you shooting it more importantly because

33:35

I know he always shoots in great locations. He

33:38

really does. That's kind of why I love I

33:40

mean not only do I just love him

33:42

as a human being and everything

33:44

he's about. We're

33:46

figuring that out right now but we are

33:48

hoping it will be in a tropical location.

33:51

Yes. And then in a European

33:53

location. Okay I vote for. Okay this

33:56

is good yes. For sure because I've never

33:58

seen a movie shot there. I

34:01

say the Maldives. Oh, we brought

34:03

that up. It's very hard. It's very hard. It's gonna be

34:05

very, oh, you know, the only thing we shot in the

34:07

Maldives is one of the one of the new Star Wars

34:09

did some stuff at the Maldives. But

34:12

you just go shoot, I think you should

34:14

shoot in George Clooney's guest house in Lake Cuomo.

34:17

We already did that. We

34:20

were literally, I mean we were in, literally,

34:22

just to sort of plug your shelf, in

34:25

Lake Cuomo for three weeks. That's right. You just

34:27

go back to sequel. You gotta have some of

34:29

the same stuff. I know. I know. And someone's

34:31

gonna die. It's gonna be a mystery. That we

34:33

know. And there's a bunch of other

34:35

things that are on the docket. I

34:37

am looking, would you say, what, the next six months? I

34:40

know that the next three months are just gonna be taking

34:43

a break. And I will leave the

34:47

house eventually. You're gonna have to get on a plane.

34:49

The question is... I'm gonna have to get on a

34:51

plane, but where is the question? Well, that's the thing.

34:53

I mean, clearly it's gotta be somewhere you wanna go,

34:55

not somewhere you have to go. I'd

34:58

like to go, I really wanna go to New York and miss

35:00

the city. Do you like New York City? I

35:03

do love it. How do you feel about trains? I'm

35:06

telling you, you've never done a train. Okay, yeah. Because

35:08

that's the best, is to get a sleeper car and

35:10

just go. That, I've never done a sleeper

35:12

car. But that's something that I actually would love

35:14

to do. Get a sleeper car.

35:16

It's so romantic and so old

35:19

school. And they're amazing. The

35:21

other thing you could do is you could rent

35:23

your own Pullman car. They'll put it on

35:25

the back of a train. And you

35:27

and friends can, you could like, yeah, it's

35:29

pretty, I had a friend who did it

35:31

was nuts. I've never heard of that. A

35:34

Pullman car? Yeah, yeah. You can get your,

35:36

there's different ones you can get. You can

35:38

get an observation car. You have three bedrooms,

35:40

a shaft. Wow. Well, you've just

35:42

followed my next three months. You've just literally

35:44

mapped it out to me. I feel very

35:46

critical. The only thing is you wanna do it before it snows. Okay.

35:49

You should seriously, I was so jealous of

35:51

you. I've always wanted to do it. I

35:53

was researched it. And I've never pulled the

35:55

trigger on it. Maybe it's something you need to do in

35:57

the next six months. It is something. Maybe I just

35:59

go. you. Okay, maybe we

36:01

just get all of our friends together

36:04

and get a Pullman car and we'll

36:07

hook our wagon to some wonderful train and then

36:09

there we go. I like it. That's

36:11

good. Um, my wife Cheryl sends her

36:13

love to you. Oh, I was just thinking about her the

36:15

other day. She has, she

36:17

said tell Jen, she said, I'm

36:19

under very specific instructions what I'm

36:21

supposed to say. Yes. She

36:24

has some new gold. She

36:27

wants to get to you. Is this code for

36:29

something? No, it's her new, it sounds like drugs.

36:32

Her fall line is built around gold

36:34

and she's like, I have some stuff

36:36

I specifically designed for her. I

36:39

really got to see her and I want to give her that.

36:41

Your wife has opened me up to so many

36:43

incredible experiences that I've had, I have

36:45

to say. Has she? Yeah.

36:48

I've met so many people through her who

36:50

have been life changing and I

36:52

just appreciate her and I

36:54

was thinking it's been so long. I mean, I

36:56

first met your wife Cheryl when she did my

36:59

makeup on a, um, she

37:01

hadn't done it was Paul Rudd. Yeah. Was

37:03

it with the Paul Rudd movie? That's right. And she

37:05

had not, and she had put down her makeup

37:07

brushes, but she kind of came out

37:09

of retirement to do my, to

37:12

do this pickup. I don't remember. She

37:14

was like, no one had ever done my eyebrows like

37:16

that. She's kind of a

37:18

genius. She really is. And

37:20

she just has her, she has her

37:22

hands in so many different areas of

37:25

life that, that makes

37:27

this one rich, wonderful, gorgeous human

37:29

being. I know. I know. She's,

37:32

she's pretty great. We miss you. So we,

37:34

we have to, you got to come up to Santa Barbara. I know.

37:37

There's like, you're all up in Santa Barbara now

37:39

too. So I feel. So many of your friends are

37:41

up there. I know it. It's, I

37:44

keep trying to get my butt up

37:46

there. I want to help you pick your Pullman car. I

37:48

really do. That's the first

37:50

thing I'm going to Google when we hang up

37:52

this wonderful conversation. All

37:54

right, darling. I love you. It was

37:56

so great to see you. You look amazing. This

37:58

is awesome. don't forget to

38:01

watch the morning show. When has the

38:03

new season come out so people know?

38:05

September 17th. September 17th. It's literally on.

38:07

That tells me you better get

38:09

the post finished. No, I'm literally going to go from

38:11

the, I have a meeting after this and then I have to go to

38:13

ADR for the finale and

38:16

then we'll, then we get, and then I think that's,

38:18

we're practically finished. Take

38:20

that round of applause. Round of applause. Thank you, Drowne.

38:22

That was great. She's

38:28

lovely, isn't she? She's pretty lovely.

38:31

And in celebration of having such a

38:33

great talk, I'm going to have a wig

38:35

made in the shape of a Rachel. The

38:38

shape of Rachel? No, the style of the Rachel.

38:40

I'm going to do that to honor her

38:42

and her graciousness for coming on literally. All

38:45

right, everybody. It is time for

38:48

the lowdown line. Let's do it. Hello,

38:53

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39:01

Here's the beep. Hello,

39:11

Mr. Lowe. This is Ryan Guy,

39:14

physical therapist here in

39:16

Kona, Hawaii. And I was

39:18

curious that when you make your

39:20

way to the Hawaiian Islands, what

39:22

is your favorite Hawaiian

39:25

fruit? Look forward to seeing if I

39:27

ever run into you out here. Take

39:29

care, brother. Well, hey, man. Thanks

39:32

for calling in from Kona. You know I love

39:34

Kona. I'm there a lot. I was just there

39:36

about 10 days ago. My

39:38

favorite Hawaiian fruit, man.

39:41

Well, listen, I'll get to that. But you know my favorite

39:43

Hawaiian thing is I go

39:45

to that little gas station right by the airport and

39:48

I get this spam. You guys

39:50

have a name for it. It's like a typical

39:52

local Hawaiian thing, but it's basically like a spam

39:54

California roll. Masubi, I

39:57

believe it's called. And it is

39:59

the most thing in the

40:01

world. Spam, wrapped

40:03

in seaweed, and

40:06

a little... you guys know what it is.

40:08

But that's my all-time favorite Hawaiian thing. But

40:10

fruit, you

40:13

know, I mean, you can't go

40:15

wrong with... anytime you get fresh coconut,

40:17

you can't go wrong. Coconut juice, you know, I mean,

40:19

I think I'm gonna go with that. I

40:21

have to say, I'm not a big fruit

40:24

person on food. I like

40:26

fruit as fruit. I like fruit

40:28

as dessert. I like fruit

40:30

as juice. Don't put it

40:32

in my salad. Don't put it in

40:34

my salsa. Every once in a while,

40:36

I can get with a fish taco. You guys are big

40:38

with putting it... you can make a... if anybody can make

40:40

a work as the Hawaiians, if anybody

40:42

can. But I

40:45

kind of like to keep things in their

40:47

lane. Fruit should stay in its lane. But

40:49

anyway, hope to see you in Kona

40:51

on the Big Island. It's one of my favorite places in

40:53

the world, and thanks for listening to Litrally. She's

41:04

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41:06

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41:09

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41:11

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