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episode of Literally with Me, Rob Lowe,

1:03

is presented by the Kia EV6 GT

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and Sirius XM. I

1:11

can't be in a classroom. I can't

1:13

be in a lesson. I

1:15

can't be at a piano class. I need to

1:18

be on a set where

1:20

I can let it loose. And

1:22

you're how old at this point? I'm 11 years

1:24

old, man. Wow. Hey

1:40

everybody, welcome to Literally. Jerry

1:43

O'Connell is here. Or

1:45

as I like to say, kush from

1:48

Jerry Maguire. People forget

1:50

about Jerry O'Connell, like some

1:52

of the disparate stuff he's been in.

1:54

Jerry's got Season 14. Season 14 of

1:56

The Talk. episodes

2:00

air weekdays at 2 p.m. on

2:02

CBS and Paramount Plus and

2:05

he's also notoriously just one of the

2:07

great dudes so let's get

2:10

cracking with Jerry save

2:19

the gold this is gold this is I don't

2:22

know if it's gold it's gold by the way see

2:24

you've got that watch what do you got going on

2:26

it's a time X it was it's amazing that's amazing

2:28

though that's so sick I know a $40 time at

2:30

I know

2:33

you you know what it is I took it

2:35

to my I took my watch my other watch so my watch

2:37

guy and he went no charge he changed

2:39

the battery and I was like dude you gotta charge

2:41

me something you could have charged me $100 I would have paid it

2:45

and he was like no there's no charge and I was like oh

2:47

god I gotta buy a watch now so

2:49

he had this and I was like oh let

2:51

me get that and I really like it I

2:53

know I it's really good it's so good I

2:55

know I know I know I mean I brought

2:57

in the bad boy today I love it I brought

2:59

in the pole I love it Paulie Newman baby

3:01

I love it to sync up here we're good

3:04

so this is all in I love it my

3:06

man Jerry's wearing a time X yeah gold it's

3:10

not real gold it's like you and I but

3:12

we take a lickin we keep on ticking yeah

3:14

it's a um no it is a digital watch

3:16

I was telling you I had another watch that

3:18

I got a battery changed in and they you

3:22

know wristwatches are like it's

3:24

just not happening anymore you know I think everybody

3:27

has clocks on their phones yeah they don't really

3:29

need them and so anytime I

3:31

have anything that's wristwatch related I try and

3:33

give this guy in my neighborhood money you

3:35

know I say there and

3:37

I brought my watch in and he changed the battery

3:39

and he told me no charge and I was like

3:41

dude you gotta charge people you can't do this there's

3:43

no way to run a business I know and he

3:45

was like no it's okay I didn't really do anything

3:48

and I was like oh gosh so I had to

3:50

look at all his watches and I saw this digital

3:52

gold Timex I'll I'll throw it

3:54

up on your Instagram it's really really good

3:56

man it's really good I've gotten

3:58

into the watch game game a little bit

4:00

recently. It's a, it's a, it's,

4:03

it's, cause you know, guys, we have, you

4:05

know, our girls is

4:07

Rebecca like a shopper. So Rebecca

4:10

is my wife. Um, my wife,

4:13

uh, my wife, um,

4:16

pretty woman. My wife is a, um,

4:20

is a shopper. My wife, I took

4:22

her as a shopper. My wife shops,

4:24

uh, a little obsessively. It's

4:26

a, uh, it's

4:29

funny. It's, and talking to her about

4:31

it, you know, we all have, uh,

4:33

our obsessions. Everyone's

4:37

compulsive about something. And, um,

4:40

my wife is compulsive about shopping and now

4:43

it has taken the form of, uh, boxes

4:45

coming to the house and packages. And

4:48

I know I'm in trouble if a

4:50

package needs to be signed for it

4:52

can't just be left at the front

4:54

door. And so you know,

4:56

it is interesting. My wife makes, uh,

4:58

uh, earns a living. My wife earns

5:01

more money than me. So I'm really not in

5:03

a position to say, you know,

5:06

you have to stop this, but I do

5:08

say, Hey, is everything okay? There's a

5:10

lot of boxes that I'm signing for.

5:12

Do we need

5:14

to talk about something? Yeah. How many kids

5:16

Jeff? We have two kids. We've a set

5:19

of twin girls. They're 14. Oh my gosh.

5:21

Um, they're right in it. It's really crazy.

5:23

What are they into? You

5:25

know, um, the big Taylor Swifties for sure.

5:27

They are. Uh, Rama, I

5:29

don't want to start any fights here.

5:31

They are not Swifties. Wait a minute.

5:33

Yes. My children are not Swifties. How

5:35

can that possibly even be? You know,

5:37

there are some kids out there. I

5:39

know because my daughters and their friends

5:41

are not Swifties. They all went to

5:43

the SZA concert the other night. Okay.

5:45

Um, they're Lizzo fans.

5:47

They like Frank Ocean. They like Childish

5:50

Gambino. No, who doesn't? You know, I

5:52

don't want to offend any fan groups.

5:54

I especially don't want any, I are

5:56

coming your way. I know, uh, your

5:58

podcast is very popular. But

6:00

my children have no interest

6:03

in in Swifty's at all. I said when,

6:05

you know, it was an event when dealers came to

6:08

town and all that stuff. And

6:10

I said, you know, should I be saving

6:12

up for tickets? And they went, we're

6:14

not interested. We don't want to go. We're

6:17

not into that. I don't know if it's because they're

6:19

14 and a little mature. No, they're

6:21

14 and they're iconoclasts. I can

6:23

get, I get all of them. Like, you know, that's for

6:26

everybody else. That's what you want. When you're 14 and when

6:28

something's things can be too

6:30

popular. Yeah, maybe it's that. You know, I

6:32

do find if I see any teenage

6:35

girl these days walking anywhere,

6:37

I immediately think it's my children. They

6:39

have this look now where they let

6:41

their hair air dry. They wear baggy

6:43

pants, very loose fitted jeans and

6:46

crop tops. And

6:48

they wear chunky sneakers, big chunky

6:50

sneakers or Adidas Samba's. That's the

6:52

look. And they

6:54

don't wear belts. But

6:56

they will use a shoelace as a belt.

6:58

I'm not kidding. This is what the kids

7:01

are doing now. I'm trying to keep you up

7:03

to date here. A shoelace. I swear to you.

7:06

Someone give me, has anyone seen a shoelace

7:08

as a belt? Oh yeah. There's a

7:10

lot of hands going up in the booth. That's what

7:12

they do. It's insane. I've offered to

7:14

buy my, it's not like I'm not allowing them to

7:16

use belts. I offered

7:18

to buy them belts. When we go out and they

7:21

buy jeans, I say they're very loose fitted. Would

7:23

you like a belt to go with that? And

7:25

they go, dad, no one wears belts. I'll just

7:27

borrow a shoelace. Everyone knows that. Okay.

7:31

So that's what they do. Okay. Do

7:33

you have the balls to take that trend

7:35

on your show? I

7:37

do not. Oh, you should though. That's

7:39

a whole segment. Look, I know

7:41

how hard fought segments are to come by. You

7:45

should be at a podium telling us what to

7:48

do. You're absolutely right. I mean... Somebody's

7:50

been doing this a minute, everybody. Come on. You're

7:52

absolutely right. What we just did is

7:55

that's what I want the talk

7:58

for. You're right. That's it. Jerry

8:00

O'Connell, this gorgeous man, comes out

8:02

with a shoelace belt. Dude,

8:05

I wanna unpack that. You know what? It's

8:07

gonna be a segment tomorrow. But I will

8:09

say, not to make everything serious here,

8:15

my children are also, and you're very

8:17

open about everything, my

8:19

children are also at the age where they're starting

8:21

to go to parties and drink a little bit,

8:23

Rob. And it's really, it's funny, that's

8:25

a new chapter for my wife and

8:27

I. And

8:30

it's funny, just this weekend, I dropped them off

8:33

at a party and I

8:35

was beforehand, I have to say, hey

8:39

guys, I can't tell you what to do and what not to

8:41

do, but try not to

8:43

get wasted. And I see a lot

8:45

of their friends getting really wasted. One

8:47

of my kids got really wasted once.

8:49

And I was like, hey guys, it

8:51

runs in the family and we all have

8:54

issues. And just know you're doing it because

8:56

you don't feel comfortable in a situation. Try

8:58

to be who you are and

9:01

know it's gonna be nervous walking into any

9:03

situation. If you see new people, try

9:06

to introduce yourselves, don't use

9:08

alcohol as a crutch. I

9:10

realized, because we all remember

9:13

when we were young and

9:15

we felt uncomfortable as everyone does,

9:17

and then you had a drink and you

9:20

were like, oh, this is who I am.

9:22

Okay, this is, oh my gosh, this is

9:24

the real me. This is the

9:26

real me. I wasn't, I can't believe

9:28

I never did this before. I

9:31

tapped into who I am finally. Hey

9:33

everybody, I'm here, I'm me. And

9:36

I try to explain that to

9:38

my teenage daughters as much as

9:40

possible because my kids are, there

9:45

are no saints, but they have a

9:47

couple of friends who just hit it

9:49

hard a lot. And

9:51

I try to explain like, hey

9:54

guys, this is like straight up

9:56

being uncomfortable in situations, I know

9:58

exactly this feeling. And

10:01

if you can figure out how to get

10:03

through that uncomfortable feeling without

10:05

a substance, by the way,

10:07

it ain't just alcohol these days. So

10:10

funny, I'm going to sound like a

10:12

real geezer now, but because marijuana is

10:14

now legal, which is still new to an old man

10:16

like me. I still can't, I

10:18

still have to remind myself that the reason the

10:20

traffic is so slow is that

10:22

marijuana is legal. By

10:25

the way, I don't want to

10:28

be a nerd with anybody. I don't

10:30

smoke, sorry everybody, but I have

10:32

such a keen smell. I can smell

10:34

it. If I'm doing 70 on

10:36

the highway, I can smell the cars that

10:39

it's coming from on the highway. Like I

10:41

said, every car. Every

10:43

car is like a Cheech and Chong sequel.

10:48

But there's a lot of that with

10:50

the kids because it's legal, so they get it in gummies

10:52

and all that stuff. I

10:55

can't tell them what to do. I can't stop

10:57

them from going to parties, but I can tell

10:59

them about my insecurities when I was their age.

11:01

That's all I can do. Yeah, the

11:05

kids figuring out their relationship. I talk about a lot

11:07

on the show. Their relationship

11:09

with drugs and alcohol is such a big, big, big,

11:11

big part and such a big part of parenting.

11:15

And it isn't one size fits

11:17

all. Everybody's different. Every kid is

11:19

different. They're just naturally going to

11:21

not have an issue. Others are

11:24

born to have an issue. It's

11:27

so great that we

11:29

live in this time because in my time, my parents,

11:31

I love you guys if you're

11:37

listening, but they party pretty

11:39

hard. When

11:42

I started partying, no

11:46

parent pulled me aside and said like, maybe.

11:48

No, no. It would

11:50

have been like, hey, what are you doing? Stop that. Cut

11:52

that out. It was, I'm

11:55

trying to be insightful. You know what I'm

11:57

saying? As parents without having any guidance. Yeah,

12:00

it's and it's also like

12:02

you said the Huh

12:06

the peer group, you know, I mean

12:08

I'll never forget rolling

12:10

into Malibu from Dayton,

12:12

Ohio As a teenager

12:14

in the eighth grade cool girl birthday

12:16

party and her big birthday give us

12:18

a like two grams of coke And

12:21

I was like what the living hell? Yeah,

12:23

is it going on here? Yeah,

12:25

it's crazy. It's crazy I

12:28

mean is it I guess it's different than

12:31

no I mean, I think it's the same I think

12:33

these are problems that everybody runs into though. I don't

12:35

think it's just oh for sure I think

12:37

teenagers are teenagers anywhere you go, you know, and it's

12:39

all a function of what you get your hands on

12:41

I believe me if people could have gotten their hands

12:43

on, you know, Mc Fleetwood's bag

12:45

of coke in, Ohio They would have by

12:47

the way, no disrespect I at

12:50

Mc Fleetwood just got taken down on this

12:52

podcast for no good reason at

12:54

all just now He has

12:56

nothing to do with anything, but you know what

12:58

I mean a bit in Ohio it was

13:00

what you get Johnny benches You

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13:11

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13:13

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me about what's going on over at the talk. So

14:57

I work on a talk show

15:00

on CBS called The Talk. It

15:02

is a panel of five of us and

15:05

it's a daily show and I love

15:08

it. It's funny. I came into this business

15:10

as an actor, as a young actor, as

15:12

a very young actor. I was in Stand By Me. And

15:17

I never thought I would be doing this. And here

15:20

I am. You

15:23

know, it really happened. What

15:26

was the genesis of it? Kelly Ripa. I

15:29

love Kelly. I

15:31

was doing a play in New York, a

15:34

Broadway play. Yeah. You

15:36

got it. You got to do it. Broadway play.

15:38

They'll never take it away from you. I

15:41

was doing a Broadway show and this

15:45

was back when Regis, God Rest His

15:47

Soul was her co-host. And

15:49

Regis had to take a little time off and

15:53

they called me to a co-host.

15:56

I mean, I'll tell you the long-sorted... You're

16:00

kind of describing what

16:03

to me would be kind of a dream

16:05

scenario. You do whatever

16:08

the, what's the name of the show now?

16:10

Kelly and Rip, they've changed it a thousand times

16:12

now. It's Kelly markets or Husker markets. Kelly

16:14

markets, yeah, okay. So you do that show

16:16

in the morning and then you do

16:18

your play at night. That

16:20

would be the dream career actually. Yeah, it

16:23

is. It really would be. Because you know,

16:25

you make your money and have fun and

16:27

talk politics and riffs and

16:29

satisfy your curiosity and then,

16:32

you know, make your money and then you go

16:34

and lose your money, but have your artistic thing.

16:36

I'm going to actually, I'm going to actually give

16:38

you my drunkologue here. That's a good story. I

16:40

was booked on as the third

16:43

guest on Kelly and Regis. This

16:45

is 12, 13, 12 years ago.

16:50

And they bumped me. Now for

16:52

those at home who don't know what bumping means,

16:55

it means you're at the end of the show, the last segment,

16:57

and I was there to talk about this Broadway

16:59

show. I said it was Broadway, right? Yeah, it was

17:01

on Broadway? It was on Broadway. It was on Broadway.

17:03

Okay, Broadway show. And they

17:06

ran out of time because, I don't

17:08

know, Frank Drescher went over, like whoever was

17:10

the first guest, Jim Belushi went over. Yeah,

17:13

they're the perfect names for that time. What time is

17:15

this? Yeah, it was like

17:17

90. You know, those are great. You can't do better than Belushi or

17:19

Drescher. No, it was somebody famous. It was like Wilf. It

17:22

was somebody famous. No, it's really for Wilf. It's

17:24

really for Wilf. I got

17:26

bumped. And when you get bumped, it means

17:28

you woke up early, you brushed your hair,

17:30

you put on makeup, you waited in the

17:32

room, you chit-chatted for an hour, and then

17:34

someone came to see you probably along the

17:36

last 30 seconds of the show and said,

17:39

I'm so sorry, we're not going to get

17:41

to you today. We

17:43

ran out of time. We have

17:45

to do a cooking segment. We have to do a

17:47

kitty litter segment. It's a product placement thing. We have

17:49

to. It's a must-hit. It's a must-hit.

17:52

And I was livid. I

17:56

was really angry. I got back on the subway and

17:58

I was like, I'm allowed to curse. here.

18:00

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like fuck this shit.

18:02

Yeah. Fucking shit. And I got on

18:05

the train and I was like,

18:07

I'll never do that show again. Fuck those people. I'm on,

18:10

I was doing a Broadway. Yeah. I told you Broadway.

18:12

Um, and I

18:14

left and I was

18:16

on Broadway and I was drinking very heavily in

18:18

these days. Um, and then I, um,

18:20

went out one night after our show and I was drunk

18:25

and my phone rang and it was the Booker

18:27

of, uh, Kelly and

18:29

Regis, uh, still the Booker there. I'm sure you've

18:31

met her Kelly Burkhardt. She's got, uh, yes, you

18:34

know, forever. Yeah. She talks sort of like this

18:36

a little bit. She talks like the

18:38

person who ran the, uh, the men's

18:40

warehouse. Uh, I was, you're gonna like

18:42

talks like, uh, you're gonna like the way you look when you

18:44

come and do this show. Um,

18:46

no, I was going to say, uh, uh,

18:48

Catherine, um, of, of romancing

18:51

the stone. Uh, Kathleen Turner, Kathleen Turner,

18:53

Kathleen Turner. And

18:56

she called me up and it was around 1am and she went, um,

18:58

uh, NPH Neil

19:00

Patrick Harris, Mr. Slight, I need you to come

19:02

in tomorrow. And I went, I was like in

19:04

the back of like, in my

19:06

head, I was like, no man, fuck you people. I

19:09

told you I'm done with you. Like, I didn't say

19:11

that. I was like, it's 1am. I'm drunk.

19:14

Like, no. And

19:16

she was like, please, this is a favor. I'm so sorry about

19:18

last week. It won't happen again.

19:20

I promise it won't happen again. And

19:23

so I was like, Oh man. So like, you know,

19:25

I still went out and drank all night. And then

19:27

the next day got up a little late. You know,

19:29

the show starts at nine. It's live. It's called live

19:32

with Kelly Mark

19:34

or Kelly Regis at the time.

19:36

And I got on a subway and I went

19:38

up there and I like like to arrive just before

19:40

nine. Cause I didn't want to like deal. I was

19:42

also hung over. I was still probably still drunk. I

19:45

didn't want to deal with everybody. And um, everyone

19:48

was like, really like in my business, putting makeup on me

19:50

and putting mics on me. And I was like, guys, I

19:52

have an hour and I'm probably

19:54

getting bumped for Fran.

19:57

And um, Kelly came out,

19:59

Kelly Ripa. Grabbed my arm a were walking and

20:01

she's like wow you smell like you been partying and

20:03

I was a killer. was out late like you call

20:05

me one what you want. And.

20:07

She said okay we'll we'll just have been out

20:09

there and does she was a zoo know we're

20:12

talking about Know was like oh no not not

20:14

really. I have some things and she went awry.

20:16

We'll just wing it. And. Then

20:18

I was standing with her and he said Live With

20:20

Kelly Regis. Are filling in for

20:22

regis. Today is Jerry and I went.

20:24

Up. I'm hosting. The show was

20:27

just you're hosting and then we

20:29

walked out. And my first

20:31

time doing it, I was. Not.

20:33

Sober, I'm real. And I was. I

20:35

had a slight panic attack slice like.

20:37

you know how like when you wake

20:39

up in the morning after a night

20:41

of drinking and your heart is racing

20:43

in. The best fear is the fear.

20:45

That's the craziest thing about partying. Is

20:48

when you wake up the fear the next morning

20:50

for a beer hit me. On

20:52

television. But. I took

20:54

some breasts and I was like now is not, don't

20:57

have a panic attack and sees the best that old

20:59

Kelly started talking and then I fell into a rhythm

21:01

and said a cup of funny things in. at the

21:03

time I had to very young children. And

21:06

dumb. I just told

21:08

stories about them poop and themselves and

21:10

Nino being a dad of the babies,

21:12

med stuff and. Till. He

21:14

said to me a listen. You. Really good

21:16

at that. Some good ask you to come back a bunch times.

21:18

You're really good. I really enjoy this with you. And.

21:21

I was like I'm sure he said something

21:23

like i'm in play. And

21:25

Broadway, Broadway, and. Kelly

21:27

said to me that be dead Me I

21:29

and grab me because he's an actor. Actress

21:32

Young actress, young actor just like you Young

21:34

actor Just like me Young actor till he

21:36

grabbed me When a man I'm telling you

21:38

this is a good gig don't. Like

21:40

it. If if you're as to come back comeback

21:42

you're good at this and you should do it.

21:45

And that really. It.

21:47

Dumb. It.a motivated

21:49

me he held. I did it.

21:53

say over one hundred terms of bioware was our

21:55

new you i knew you had done it i

21:57

wasn't aware was that might elicit this is weird

22:00

This is where I was never interested in

22:02

co-hosting. I was an actor. And by the

22:04

way, Rob, you and I come from a

22:06

time where you either did movies or TV,

22:08

let alone hosting and

22:10

acting. That was not even a

22:13

possibility. Rob, there was

22:15

a time when you and I were coming up where

22:17

we wouldn't do talk shows because you wanted to seem

22:19

mysterious. You know what I'm

22:21

talking about. Yeah, totally. Oh, God, yes. And

22:24

here I am in Kangaroo Jack telling

22:26

my publicist, I don't know if I can do

22:28

Leno, like, I mean, I

22:30

want to, don't I have like, what if I want

22:33

to play the, I want to play serial killer. I'm

22:35

going to go there and tell a funny story

22:37

about the kangaroo. Like, do I have to do this?

22:39

The studio making me do it. So

22:42

anyway, I did

22:44

it a bunch of times. Kelly was looking

22:46

for a new host. And

22:49

listen, Rob, you're not the only one in the

22:51

room with a manager. I have a manager too.

22:53

Okay. So actually, I saw your famous manager on

22:55

the phone there. But

22:57

I have a big time manager. And my

22:59

big time manager said to me when one of

23:01

her co hosts stopped working with her, he

23:04

said, I got to tell you this,

23:07

they're going to ask you to cohost a bunch. This

23:09

is your job to lose at this point. That's what

23:11

he said to me. And I

23:14

had never been the front runner for anything

23:16

in my career. Rob, I'm, you

23:18

know, not to get

23:20

too inside baseball, but when you're

23:22

an actor, you either audition

23:24

or you don't audition, field offer only.

23:26

But I've always been an auditioner and

23:29

I've always been someone who, all right,

23:31

I guess we'll see him. And then they see me.

23:34

And I mean,

23:37

I'm not saying this to be boastful, but

23:39

I'm very good at auditioning. It's something that

23:41

I don't get nervous auditioning. I

23:43

did get very nervous for an early screen test

23:45

I did once. And I swore I would never

23:47

get nervous in an audition. Again, I would just,

23:50

I would just almost like beta block that out

23:52

of my system. Yep. And,

23:54

um, so I try to be loose

23:56

and try to like, I Audition for

23:58

a lot of commercials in my. The time. I don't

24:01

know if you ever did commercials, but when

24:03

you audition for commercials, this is when commercials

24:05

in their heyday, you would go on. Quite

24:08

possibly Twenty commercial auditions a week.

24:10

And a few books two year you were

24:12

making. Paint. Suge

24:15

Money. And so.

24:18

Two point where I didn't care about commercials

24:20

and I knew how to quickly. And

24:23

deeds and get a job like I become

24:25

very good A job interview closer. That's.

24:28

Not even a closer. I wouldn't like golf

24:30

so Glengarry on it aside just of I

24:32

know what they're looking for and I could

24:34

give it to him and room and. I'm

24:37

easy, you know? That. Said

24:39

I'd never been the front runner for

24:41

a job. And I'm. You.

24:44

Know I spent a lot of months. I'm.

24:47

Co. Hosting with her. And

24:50

are. I didn't get

24:52

that job. Ryan Seacrest got that job.

24:55

And he's very good bird talented birds

24:57

rational. Bomb. The ratings were

24:59

great. The was obviously the correct choice. I would have

25:01

been a mistake. Arm. But.

25:06

After that I was like I. Know

25:09

I have to succeed a bit. Six It's

25:11

so funny how it's like get like it's

25:13

almost like. A it's

25:15

it's almost like I don't know. Like

25:18

dating someone, like asking someone out and

25:20

then. You're. Right as

25:22

Mm. Legally knowing that you're like

25:24

obituary things. Be with you. please.

25:26

I love you a message. Yeah,

25:28

I'll do anything. Oh God, be

25:30

with me. Please leave an orchid

25:32

Cbs Radford. I mean, it's the

25:34

it's It's as though I love

25:36

it, but it's some. Then

25:39

determine be team sort of bar or. Something.

25:42

I b team of I studied and

25:44

I wanted to work him. And

25:47

I'm so sorry. the stories taking so long cut

25:49

me off. I'm. But. Does during

25:51

the pandemics. I'm. They. Had

25:53

a change of tasks at the talk get.

25:56

Arm and are. They.

25:58

ask me to come in temporarily

26:01

and I came in temporarily

26:03

and soon after they

26:06

asked me to come in permanently and

26:09

I really enjoy it I really have a fun time doing

26:11

it it's really fun it's really interesting you and I are

26:14

I mean we're not saying my whole I'll

26:16

just say for the sake of my

26:18

my ego we're the same Rob you and I

26:20

are the

26:23

same man but anyways when you're an actor when

26:25

you're a gig actor you have no idea where

26:28

your next job is next week I mean look

26:30

here's Rob Lowe here his manager calls him and

26:32

he's picking up his phone he's like whoa what

26:34

is it is it a job like that never

26:36

leaves you it never leaves you Rob no never

26:39

it never leaves I mean it

26:41

doesn't matter Henry Fonda thought he'd never work

26:43

again to the day never leaves you so

26:45

the fact that I've had a job for

26:48

three years at the same place every day

26:50

I've been on a few series where I've had that

26:52

but in this day and age

26:55

and I say in this day and age because when

26:57

I came to Los Angeles as an actor series

27:00

had 25 episodes of season they

27:02

all shot either Warner Brothers

27:04

or at Radford or within a three-block radius

27:07

yeah those days are over those days are

27:09

over now everything shoots out of state out

27:11

of country out of continent and

27:14

I'm very grateful to work a few exits

27:17

away from where my children who are

27:19

beginning to drink go to school and

27:22

I go to work

27:24

every day I have a lot of fun and

27:26

it is fun to talk about topical stuff you

27:28

know I mean like what happens that

27:31

day you get to go and say

27:33

a couple things about it no it's

27:35

for sure it's it's in

27:38

the few times that I've done that

27:40

it's been really really really fun yeah

27:42

you just and I'm

27:44

gonna tell you something crazy though being

27:47

that we're

27:49

all very honest here I do feel like

27:51

I failed as an actor a little bit isn't that crazy you

27:54

just saw plenty of time I know but like you

27:56

know I've had a few television shows

28:00

that have been canceled early and that like

28:03

i'm not going to talk about them because it's so funny

28:05

when i hear other actors talk about that. Well you're going

28:07

to talk about one of them because it's

28:09

on my nose. Oh gosh please i've tried to like

28:11

not talk about them. It's like it's circled. You know

28:13

because i do feel like i do

28:15

feel like it is an obsession with self when

28:18

i hear actors talk about a show that got

28:20

canceled years ago and how it still

28:22

bothers them because no one knows what they're talking

28:24

about and so i

28:26

mean i will answer any questions that you

28:28

have but it is funny it's um it's

28:31

like doing the talk and i do have a fun

28:33

time doing it it's so funny

28:35

maybe it's just a like a discontentment i

28:37

always have with myself like i'm never happy

28:40

i i mean i swear this is the happiest i

28:42

get. Here's the ego hey Jerry so i got a

28:44

movie for you you get

28:46

to play uh uh a checklist

28:49

lavakian double amputee okay he's shooting

28:51

and uh shooting is in the

28:53

process of transitioning shooting in moldova

28:55

right and it's shooting in moldova

28:58

yeah it's shooting in bratislava let's go

29:01

and i'll do it it's 16

29:03

days i don't need the whole movie it's in

29:05

16 days and

29:07

you're getting schedule f congratulations you're back in the

29:09

movie business i mean i yeah

29:11

i know and and that's what you're

29:14

saying but i mean i'm just talking

29:16

one way it's never going to be released

29:18

i'm talking one actor to another it's you

29:20

know it's like i'm i'm what i'm trying

29:22

to do is connect with you through the insecurities

29:24

that never leave you know what i'm saying it's

29:26

like funny it's really i got another offer for

29:28

you it's coming in hey this is it's good

29:31

the marvel universe though so it's um you're going

29:33

to be shooting for 37 weeks

29:35

okay um in atlanta okay

29:38

starting in the summer of course um you'll

29:40

be in a full rubber suit um

29:43

they're only paying you uh 75

29:46

000 dollars for and um and

29:48

by the way if you ask for more money they're

29:50

just gonna put somebody else in the rubber suit congratulations

29:52

you're back in the movie i'll do it i'll do

29:54

it i'll do it it is

29:57

pretty interesting um okay interesting

29:59

so i am very grateful and I love

30:01

the talk. Okay, well here we are, Camp

30:03

Wilder. Oh boy. Jay

30:05

Moore. Yeah. And

30:08

Hilary Swank. Correct. Yes.

30:11

Hilary Swank. That's two Academy Awards.

30:13

Yes. Also a former member of

30:15

the Lowe family. Yes, yes, that is correct. I

30:17

actually, that's the first time I met your brother.

30:19

That's right. He was dating my

30:21

co-star Hilary Swank. It

30:24

was a TV show. It was called TGIF. It

30:27

was a comedy block that they had

30:29

on ABC on Friday nights, TGIF. Well,

30:31

nothing says comedy like TGIF. Right. Thank

30:33

goodness it's Friday. Not thank God it's Saturday. Thank goodness

30:36

it's Friday. And

30:39

it lasted, I think, 16 episodes and it

30:41

got axed pretty quickly. That was not me.

30:43

I take full responsibility for that one. It

30:46

lasted two seasons if it were a Netflix

30:48

hit. 16 episodes. That's

30:50

two seasons, bro. Yeah, it is different. What

30:52

Rob is referring to is that we used

30:54

to work basically 10 months a

30:57

year on a television show and that is

30:59

no longer the case. It's now two to

31:01

three months a year. So Hilary Swank. Right.

31:05

I'm still very friendly with her. She's the best.

31:07

So I remember vividly

31:09

this moment in her career

31:11

and it's a great, it's

31:13

such a great, it's why

31:16

we at the end of the day love what we

31:18

do and why this business for all of its problems

31:20

and there are so many of them. But

31:22

why it's still kind of magic. I

31:25

remember she could not get arrested

31:28

after this fiasco. It

31:31

was my bad. It was my

31:33

bad. And I

31:36

remember she read, she had this pilot she

31:38

wanted to do. Big, big,

31:40

big, big, big, big, big pilot. We were all

31:42

like on tenterhooks hoping Hilary would get this pilot

31:45

at CBS. And she did, it was

31:47

between her and one other person. I can't remember who it was.

31:49

Are you running lines with her? Is your

31:51

brother running lines with her? Running lines, she's doing

31:53

the whole thing. Propping her up, doing the whole thing. And

31:56

she doesn't get it and the feedback from

31:58

Les Moonves who is then the key. king of

32:00

everything with Hillary Swank. She

32:03

can't do drama. She's just too

32:06

multi-camera. Wow. She won two Academy

32:09

Awards immediately after

32:11

that. It is pretty funny. It is pretty funny. It's, um,

32:14

yeah, you hear a lot of that

32:17

early on, especially with failure. Um,

32:20

but you know, it's funny. Um, I'm

32:22

a man of a particular

32:24

age now. And, um, I'd

32:27

say 99% of it, man.

32:32

And, you know, I mean, it's just, it's

32:34

coming. And, um, I

32:37

don't know when I became okay with failure. I

32:39

guess it comes with age. I don't know what

32:42

happened. You know, um, I, I,

32:44

I am not. Okay. Wow.

32:46

You're maybe you're more competitive than I am.

32:48

Oh, bro. Oh,

32:51

bro. Yeah. So competitive.

32:53

Don't you think there's nothing more you don't. You

32:55

do the best that you possibly can do. And

32:57

then if it fails and that's well, that's a

32:59

different thing. That's success. That is success. It's

33:02

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33:04

is. Right. So we're going to do

33:06

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40:00

studios. It's really great.

40:03

It's renowned. And I

40:06

did a weekend, like, teen

40:09

class there. And then

40:11

I went to an open call for

40:13

Stand By Me. Wow, an open

40:15

call. And I got called back. Wow.

40:18

And I got called back. And

40:21

I got called back. And then I

40:23

got flown out to Los Angeles to screen test. And

40:26

I got it. Wow. You

40:29

know, I didn't just get it. I,

40:32

there was an actor who lived on my block.

40:34

You know, New York is a very, I grew

40:36

up in the West Village. It's very artistic. Chelsea.

40:38

Yeah. So there was a

40:41

guy who was an actor named Blake Brocksmith, who

40:43

lived on my block. He was in the Flamingo

40:45

Kid. Remember that Gary Marshall movie? Of course I

40:47

do. Difficult to find. You can't find it streaming.

40:49

Really? I looked for it. Yeah. Really

40:52

interesting. You can only buy it on DVD. Wayne Gretzky's

40:54

wife on the diving board. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

40:56

Janet- Janet Jones. Yeah.

41:00

Sweet Ginger Brown. Remember he gets, he gets

41:02

in at the end of it. Sweet Ginger.

41:06

But he was an actor in that. And my

41:08

mother said, hey, he's going to screen test. Will

41:10

you work with him for

41:12

a couple of weeks on this script? Like I

41:15

have no one in my family who was

41:18

in entertainment. My mom was a

41:20

teacher and he really worked with me for

41:22

two weeks on the two or three scenes,

41:24

sides, they called him. And

41:29

he gave me tips like, hey, when you fight with

41:31

Corey Feldman's character in the audition, don't talk to him

41:33

until you have the fight scene. And then even

41:35

if he tries to talk to you in the hallway, then explode

41:37

on him when you see him, you know? And,

41:40

you know, I'm telling you, that'll get

41:42

you the part if you just unleash on him. And

41:46

I got the role. Amazing. Go

41:49

out to Oregon. Yeah. Rob

41:53

Reiner, River Phoenix,

41:56

Corey Feldman, Will Witten, Keifer

41:58

Sutherland, Casey Schimasco. Casey Schimasco.

42:00

I'm still good friends with him. Love

42:03

him. And

42:06

we do the movie. And, Rob, I got to tell you, I

42:11

was a child

42:13

who was, they called me

42:15

hyperactive. That was the term then. No, I

42:17

guess it's ADHD. They don't

42:19

say hyperactive anymore. And

42:21

every school, every class I

42:24

was in, there were conversations that I

42:26

should be on Ritalin. There were conversations.

42:29

He doesn't sit on it. He

42:31

speaks out of turn. He blurts

42:33

things out. He's never

42:36

quiet. He's unable to focus.

42:39

I mean, so many conversations with

42:41

my mom leaving principal's

42:43

offices, like with her, saying,

42:46

can you just fucking

42:48

sit on your hands? Can you shut

42:50

up? Can you be

42:52

quiet, please? Can you

42:54

not blur things out? I mean, what's

42:57

going on? And

43:00

I got to set. And,

43:02

I mean, we were probably

43:04

shooting the first day. And it was the scene where

43:06

we're throwing stones in the can. I don't know if

43:08

you recall, we're like goofing around in the junkyard. And

43:11

I ad libbed. We

43:13

were rolling and we're four boys. And

43:16

I was goofing around and I got into it.

43:18

And I ad libbed something. And

43:21

everyone was laughing. I got a laugh, you know? I

43:23

was familiar with that. And

43:25

then Rob Reiner went, cut, cut, cut. And

43:28

I was like, oh shit, here it comes, you

43:30

know? Here comes the principal. Here it comes. Like

43:32

sit on your hands, Jerry, don't do that. Say

43:34

the line, all that stuff. And

43:37

I was like, here it comes. And Rob Reiner came

43:39

over and went, Jerry! Big booming,

43:41

you know, big booming voice, Rob

43:44

Reiner. And I was like, yeah,

43:46

Rob. And he went, more

43:48

of that. I love that. Keep going.

43:50

Keep going. Take it

43:53

further. And I got to tell

43:55

you, Rob, a light bulb went off of me. And I went, this

43:58

is my spot. This

44:00

is me. I need to be on a set. I

44:03

need to be on a set. Yeah. I

44:05

can't be in a classroom. I can't be

44:08

in a lesson. I can't be at a piano class.

44:10

I need to be on a set

44:13

where I can let it loose.

44:15

And you're how old at this point. I'm

44:17

11 years old, man. Wow. 11 years old.

44:20

And I got to tell you, the light bulb went

44:22

off. So anyway, we do the movie. Rob,

44:24

it's the best summer of my life. It is

44:26

the best summer of my life. There's soda and

44:29

I have people telling me to go

44:31

crazy. It's hilarious. I have adults

44:34

coming up to me, adults who are big

44:37

time sitcom stars, Meathead, all

44:39

in the family. Yes. Saying to me,

44:42

that was so funny what you did. Do

44:44

that again. More like this.

44:46

Why don't you try this? Say this line.

44:49

And it was my spot. It

44:52

was my spot. Immediately. No

44:54

parents who were in the business. I

44:56

mean, I guess a weekend class,

44:58

but just it's where

45:01

my energy needed

45:03

to be and where I felt most comfortable. And

45:07

it was funny. I came back home for the summer. Both my

45:09

parents worked. So my grandparents came with me and

45:13

my father who was in advertising and I

45:15

think probably had aspirations to be in the

45:17

business or whatever he really does. You know,

45:19

everyone's got a script or something. I

45:22

remember I came home and I was telling him stories that

45:24

they let us ride on the crane and let us. I

45:28

did a stunt and they gave me a stuntman patch

45:30

and it was so great. And it starts off. You

45:32

do a master dad and then they come in for

45:34

closeups. And you know,

45:36

you play things broadly in the master, but then when

45:38

they come in for closeups, you want to take it

45:41

down a notch. I was explaining to him everything I'd

45:43

learned, everything I loved. My

45:45

father said, don't, you're

45:48

going to go back to school.

45:50

I mean, public school in New York city at this time. He's

45:53

like, don't go around telling people you're

45:55

in a movie and everything. This movie

45:57

is never coming out. It's never getting least,

46:00

no one will ever see it. You had

46:02

a great experience and

46:05

it's over and like, enjoy

46:07

the experience of that. And,

46:09

you know, don't talk

46:12

about the movie all the time. It's never going

46:15

to see the light of day. And

46:18

I remember being so bummed out, like, I really

46:22

thought people were going to go see this movie.

46:24

And really felt, listen, it felt good when we

46:26

were doing it. I mean,

46:28

I thought, I thought we had something

46:30

dad. And my father was like, it's just not, it's

46:32

not going to happen. Just let it go. And

46:37

so I spent a year trying to get it out

46:39

of my head a year later,

46:41

a year later, it came out a year later. I

46:44

saw the matinee with my grandparents who came to

46:46

the shooting with me in an empty movie theater

46:48

on Madison Avenue. And

46:51

it was the first show. It was in noon. And

46:54

I remember, uh, the

46:57

only person in the theater was the

46:59

young lady who sold us our tickets and

47:03

we sat there and the movie was good. You know, I mean,

47:05

what do I know? But I'm 12 at the time.

47:07

My grandparents were talking the whole time like, Oh,

47:09

that's, that's where they had lobster

47:11

for lunch that day. I remember that day. Um,

47:15

Oh, that was the day they had ribs. Remember the barbecue they

47:17

had for lunch? That was a great day. But

47:20

the lady stopped me when we were walking

47:22

out. It was an empty theater. And

47:24

she went, were you in that movie? And

47:27

my grandfather said, yeah, we were there for the shooting. They

47:29

shot it in Eugene. It was great.

47:32

They serve ribs. And,

47:34

um, she said, come here, come

47:36

with me family. And it was my grandparents and I,

47:39

and she went to the ticket office and gave

47:41

my grandfather, the matinee money back. It was probably

47:43

like, we're talking like 15 bucks tops. And

47:47

she was like, movie, she was like, movie stars don't have to pay.

47:49

Come on, man. You don't have to pay for that. And,

47:52

um, she stopped me and

47:54

she went, Hey, that was a really good movie. And

47:57

I went, Oh, thank you. And she went, no, I'm telling you. all

48:00

the movies that come here. That was a good one.

48:02

That one's gonna last. And

48:04

that was the first glimmer of hope. I was like, oh,

48:06

maybe people will see this movie. Like, I mean,

48:08

first of all, it was in the theater. So

48:10

my father was wrong there to the theater. But

48:13

her saying, Hey, that was, I see all the movies that

48:15

come here. And that was, that was one of the good

48:17

ones. It was really funny. But you

48:19

know, what's funny is I

48:22

talk about what a wonderful experience it was. It was

48:24

actually a real man. This is I

48:26

hate to get I

48:28

hate to bum everybody out. But

48:31

afterwards, I didn't really work. You

48:34

know, I mean, I didn't again, my parents weren't

48:37

you weren't in LA, right? Wasn't in LA

48:39

11 year old kid. You're not gonna know,

48:42

you know, and

48:45

I didn't really work after that. And I

48:47

gotta say, I couldn't believe everybody

48:50

just moves on after that. I thought they

48:52

were all gonna be my best friends forever

48:54

and ever after that, you know, and yes,

48:56

yes, I know exactly what you mean. You

48:58

know, it was at a very early age.

49:02

I don't want to say I

49:06

became a little cold, you know, I was like, Oh, so

49:08

you're like the Grinch your heart just went

49:11

from you know, it just I couldn't believe

49:13

we were such best friends. And

49:15

listen, this happens in our

49:17

business because you work so intensely for

49:19

such a short

49:21

period of time. And now I'm

49:23

more used to it. And listen,

49:26

I'm sure I work with young people now and they're

49:28

like, Oh, this is the best two months ever

49:30

working on this movie with you and Moldova. Um,

49:33

yes, but if only I

49:35

could see you without the rubber suit. But it's um,

49:38

it's funny, I

49:41

couldn't believe everybody just goes their separate ways

49:43

after that. That amazing. I remember that. And

49:45

I think it has to do with the age. I mean, you were

49:48

11. I was just turned 18

49:50

out on and it's the same with and

49:52

it was boys outsiders stand by me they're

49:55

very similar thematically. And those

49:57

are your they're your like beyond your brothers.

50:00

It's next level and then it's

50:02

over. And that,

50:05

I had the very, very similar

50:07

experience. How did it affect you? I

50:11

cried like a baby the day I

50:13

left the set and went home. Like,

50:17

in some part of me knew

50:20

that it would never be like it was, because we were like a family,

50:23

like an actual

50:26

family. It was super intense,

50:28

super emotional, super long shoot and

50:30

ginned up by Coppola

50:33

to make us even more emotionally entrenched in

50:35

the process. Sorry

50:39

to pry, but entrenched

50:43

in the process, the rehearsal process. All

50:45

of it, like hanging out afterwards. All

50:47

of it. Going to dinner process. All

50:49

of it, yeah. And

50:52

so we've- Before

50:54

shooting, after shooting, during-

50:57

We rehearsed for a month. Wow. Let

51:00

me just interrupt you there for a second.

51:02

People always ask me, like, tell

51:04

me about Stand By Me. They wanna know about it.

51:07

As I'm sure people say the same thing about outsiders

51:09

with you. Rob Reiner, for

51:11

two weeks before we shot anything, we

51:15

rehearsed, we

51:18

hung out, we played games the first week. Then

51:20

the next week we went to every location and

51:23

we blocked every scene out. Now, looking back, I

51:25

think it's because he came from sitcoms, which is

51:27

you rehearse for four days and then you shoot

51:29

on Friday nights. So I think he

51:32

felt most comfortable as a director blocking

51:34

things out. But these days, with budgets

51:36

and how they make movies, you get

51:38

there the day of. I mean, I'm talking huge

51:40

movies here. You get there the day of and

51:42

they go, they say, okay, let's put this on

51:44

its feet. And that's the first time you're meeting

51:47

someone you're having an intimate lovemaking scene with. I

51:49

mean, there's no- Rehearsal's gone.

51:51

Gone. So

51:53

I think that's a testament to young filmmakers

51:56

out there that you

51:59

want the- You know what the real stuff? Get

52:02

some rehearsal time. It's just tough to

52:04

pay people. You know, it's tough. Like

52:07

Rob, could you imagine

52:09

trying to say, hey Rob, will you

52:11

come to, where did you shoot outsiders,

52:13

Marfa or something? Yeah, Tulsa, Oklahoma. Tulsa?

52:16

Will you come to Tulsa a month early and

52:18

rehearse for these kids? You mean like, dude, I

52:20

got a podcast. I got to go get a

52:22

new battery in my watch. So

52:27

it's just changed. The business has

52:29

changed, you know, but it's so interesting to hear

52:31

that. There's two films, classics. Sorry, I'm allowed to

52:33

say it. I'm in one of them. You're in

52:35

two of them, as far as I can tell.

52:39

What's the other one? Jerry McGuire. Oh, I

52:41

thought you were going to say Kangaroo Jack or Camp Wilder.

52:43

Camp Wilder, man. No, Jerry McGuire is one of my favorite

52:45

movies ever made. It is

52:47

in my top 10 of all

52:49

time and might even be in my top

52:52

five. Yeah, it was a good one. It

52:54

was really exciting to watch that. It

52:56

was also exciting because it was my

52:58

first film after

53:01

Stand By Me. That is

53:04

insane. So now

53:06

mind you, I know you're saying that is

53:08

insane, but I was only nine

53:11

years older. I mean, only nine

53:13

years in between Stand By Me and Jerry McGuire. Crazy,

53:16

right? That is really, really interesting story.

53:18

And by the way, a good audition

53:20

story, young actors, if you're listening, listen

53:23

up. I went in

53:25

there and auditioned on tape and for

53:27

Cameron Crow to play the agent, Bob

53:29

Sugar, played by the aforementioned Jay Moore.

53:32

It all comes back to Camp Wilder,

53:34

everybody. And

53:37

I auditioned a number of times and then

53:39

I auditioned with the star of Jerry McGuire.

53:43

And it was deemed

53:46

that physically I

53:49

looked more like a football player. And

53:54

so I auditioned for the agent, by

53:56

the way, killed it, nailed

53:58

it, very loose. got

54:00

notes, did their notes, a little tip

54:02

everybody, if you

54:04

get notes in an audition, do

54:07

them almost to the nth degree to like

54:09

almost like a joke because it

54:11

shows every like directors as a trick, give

54:14

you a direction like oh play this sad. Even

54:17

if it's like a happy scene, play a little more

54:19

sad, like start to cry because it shows them that

54:21

you listen to them and can take direction because a

54:23

lot of actors sort out what they're

54:25

doing and are only able to do that. And

54:28

so I got some direction where

54:30

I was told to take it away and I

54:33

did it and James Brooks, the famous producer was

54:35

in the room and everything and everybody loved

54:37

it and I killed it. And then I

54:41

was asked some questions about like my physical appearance

54:43

and everything and they were like Jesus, you know

54:45

I'm a tall guy you know and they

54:48

were like man you look, did you ever play football?

54:50

And I was like no you know no and then

54:52

I left and I could tell they were like not

54:55

feeling it. They didn't think I looked like an agent.

54:57

I remember

55:00

walking in my car in the structure and I was like what

55:03

a bummer that was my shot. It would have been so

55:05

great to follow up stand by me with Jerry Maglire. I'm

55:08

gonna do like Kubrick every

55:10

nine years. And

55:14

somebody ran out and said hey will you come back in? And I

55:16

went back in and they said hey can you do a

55:18

Southern accent? And you

55:21

said no. I said can I do

55:23

a Southern accent? And they said we'd love

55:26

you to read for the quarterback. And then

55:29

I went in and did it and gotten

55:33

another, I mean Rob Lowe called it a

55:35

classic. You'll either surf or ski. Yeah that's

55:37

right. That's what my character said he was

55:40

a quarterback. We

55:42

are singing that ridiculous song with the

55:44

guitar. So I love

55:47

that movie. Like you can't even imagine. It's

55:49

all camera crow. He writes it. He's

55:53

there for every minute. He lives it. He

55:55

breathes it. He notes every moment. He

55:58

worked very closely with Tom Cruise. It was really

56:00

amazing to watch a star work. You

56:02

know, the only job I

56:04

had done, you know, only film I had done before

56:06

that was stand by me and, you know, I, uh,

56:08

stars, you know, it was just kids, you know. Um,

56:13

sorry, keeper, you know, I mean, it

56:15

wasn't a star yet, but, um, it

56:19

was amazing to watch, um,

56:22

just Tom take his time.

56:25

Read through things. Just be a star, you

56:28

know, be really nice to everybody. Be gracious.

56:31

Show me what a star does. Um,

56:34

um, he wears it extraordinarily well. He's

56:36

a star. He's a face. He's a

56:38

real leader, you know, because,

56:40

you know, we've also worked with stars and listen, I get it.

56:42

We don't want to be bothered, you know, and, uh, uh,

56:46

listen, they have a lot to deal with and Tom Cruise

56:48

is not that guy. He's really, um, he's,

56:51

uh, generous, generous with

56:53

everything and works everything out. And it

56:55

was funny, like watching

56:58

him and Cameron Crow work out

57:00

like, Oh man, you know, I really, um, I picked

57:03

something up when I worked with, with Tom cruise

57:05

and that was, um, Tom cruise

57:08

plays a lot of his emotions

57:10

through smiles. Like his,

57:13

he's obviously got the

57:16

best smile ever in the history of mankind.

57:18

Um, of all humanity.

57:20

And, uh, I remember like my

57:22

character, he's listening to Jay Moore's

57:25

character talk to him and he knows I'm not

57:27

signed. My character is signing with him. It's amazing.

57:29

And if you watch him, he's like smiling through

57:31

it. So he's doing Tom cruise. He's

57:34

doing, but he's playing it and

57:36

you can see the vein in his head. And it was

57:38

just, I was like, wow, look

57:40

at him doing him,

57:42

but doing him while ingesting this

57:45

terrible news. It was, um, sort

57:47

of my favorite scenes of the movie. Yeah. It was

57:49

a real, real experience. Don't you pick the phone up

57:51

at first? Uh, is

57:53

your, or, or, uh, he picks the phone up

57:55

and it's Bob sugar saying, Hey, is he in

57:58

there, you know, let me know. And he. hear

58:00

him. That's right. And it was just

58:02

like, just grunt if he's there. Yeah,

58:05

it was just a great experience. It was really funny. It

58:07

was, it was really interesting

58:09

too, because I went to, I just

58:13

got to see a set that was like, you

58:15

know, you rehearse it, and then they light

58:17

it for a couple hours. Yannish

58:19

Kaminsky shot it, the Academy Award winning

58:21

director of photography. And I

58:23

remember we did one scene on a plane, and

58:26

they had like, like,

58:28

like the sun was like moving, like, so they had

58:31

someone moving the sun and it was like, fucking

58:34

beautiful. And I was like, it was

58:36

like, it was like, a, like a

58:38

Hallmark card or something. And I was

58:41

like, this is a scene where we're talking

58:43

about football. It was just, it

58:45

just it's, it's, it's just how it's done. It's

58:47

just it's the a, it's the a game. It's

58:49

the game. It's the NFL, you know, and I've,

58:52

you know, I've since worked on television

58:54

shows where, you know, you're doing airplane scenes

58:56

and it's, you know, some

58:58

grip next to you going through someone

59:01

with a flashlight, like, you know,

59:04

we're dry. I got special effects. You got the

59:06

dry eyes now. Yeah. And it's like, it was,

59:08

it was fun to see how the big leagues

59:10

do it, you know, I made

59:12

it to the big leagues. That's a great it's

59:14

just one of the great. And

59:16

that movie, it's one of those movies that

59:19

never again, never gets made today. If it's

59:21

a, it gets made, but it doesn't

59:23

get made like that today. And it doesn't get made with

59:25

those people today. You know, it's funny not to diss on,

59:27

I'm going to sound like an old man now, but you

59:30

know, scripts are different now. Scripps

59:35

in my day were heavily rewritten.

59:38

They went through passes. People did

59:40

passes of scripts. And

59:42

I think because a lot of movies now are made

59:44

for streaming. I think

59:47

scripts are just put

59:50

together differently. I'm not saying one

59:52

movie is better than the other. I'm just

59:55

saying that the process is the development process

59:57

is very different than it was in my

59:59

day. You know, I

1:00:02

also wrote a screenplay that went through a number of

1:00:05

rewrites and it was in the studio system and

1:00:07

eventually got made. So I saw the old school

1:00:10

system and I don't, I

1:00:13

haven't developed through the streaming service but I gotta

1:00:15

think that they don't develop things the way they

1:00:17

used to. It's just, it's a different development process.

1:00:20

Sorry for getting so deep. No, it's all of

1:00:22

it is all of

1:00:24

it. I just can't, I just, sorry, I can't get over

1:00:26

the visual of you with the

1:00:28

guitar. I'm singing the Cushman

1:00:30

theme. Yeah. Cush, Cush, Cush,

1:00:32

Cush. Yeah, Cush Lash. Cush, Cush Lash, yeah.

1:00:35

Did you make, was that in the script? I

1:00:39

couldn't play guitar and I was asked to and

1:00:42

I said to Cameron Crowe, I was like, I can't play

1:00:44

guitar. I still can't play guitar and he

1:00:46

was like, I don't care. That's

1:00:48

what was amazing about it. He was like, what do you know? I

1:00:50

was like, oh, he wanted me to sing the

1:00:54

Nirvana song, Something in

1:00:56

the way. Ooh,

1:00:58

yeah. Underneath

1:01:01

the bridge, something

1:01:03

caught a leak, Tarpeh's caught a leak. It's

1:01:06

okay to eat fish cause they haven't

1:01:09

got no feeling. Oh yeah, yeah. And

1:01:12

he wanted me to sing that. So

1:01:14

I had to go to a guitar lesson and the

1:01:16

guy was like, hey, it's an easy song. It's three

1:01:18

chords. And I was like, I can't fucking

1:01:20

play this man. Like I'm not Johnny

1:01:22

B. Goode. I'm not John Mayer. Like you got

1:01:25

the wrong guy. And

1:01:27

Cameron Crowe was like, no, it's good. It's like, I don't care.

1:01:29

And I was like, you don't care if this sounds terrible? And

1:01:31

he was like, it's okay. More

1:01:34

than okay. Something in the way. It

1:01:36

was really fun. Nirvana was so popular. If you have not seen

1:01:39

Jerry Maguire, I'm sure everybody, I cannot

1:01:41

recommend it highly, highly enough.

1:01:49

This was great. Thank you for coming, man. Oh man, this

1:01:51

is a lot of fun. Sorry. The

1:01:54

tables are usually turned. I'm rolling up to

1:01:56

where you shoot the talk and it's one

1:01:58

billion degrees all the time. there in that

1:02:00

parking lot and I'm coming in getting getting ready to come

1:02:02

see you in the gown. No way! I'm a big fan.

1:02:05

I love you. It's

1:02:07

an honor to be here. You're

1:02:09

an inspiration. I

1:02:11

love it. Keep going. And vice versa. And I know I'll

1:02:13

be seeing you on the talk because I love coming and

1:02:15

talking to you guys. So next time,

1:02:18

get your questions ready now. Start thinking.

1:02:20

I am. Okay. Start thinking. Thanks,

1:02:29

everybody. Don't forget Jerry's got season 14.

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beep. Hello,

1:03:09

Rob. This is Deanna, originally from

1:03:12

New York, now living in New Hampshire. I'm

1:03:14

a longtime fan and a faithful listener. I

1:03:17

typically don't enjoy those cheesy holiday type movies,

1:03:19

but I will admit to watching them during

1:03:21

the holiday season. One

1:03:23

of my favorite go-to holiday type movies

1:03:25

is Holiday in the Wild. This

1:03:28

is a movie that, no matter how many

1:03:30

times I watch it, it absolutely just warms

1:03:32

my heart. Africa is at the

1:03:34

very top of my bucket list and so are the

1:03:36

elephants. When I am finally able

1:03:39

to visit Africa, I would love to

1:03:41

have an experience in a raw natural

1:03:43

way. I wonder if you'd

1:03:45

be so kind and talk about the movie,

1:03:47

your experience in Africa, your experience working with

1:03:49

the lovely Kristin Davis and your son. Thank

1:03:52

you, Rob, for creating that beautiful

1:03:54

heartfelt movie. Oh, thank

1:03:56

you. I love that you love that movie

1:03:58

so much. You can find

1:04:00

it on Netflix. It just

1:04:02

has an amazing life. It's taken on a life

1:04:04

of its own, and its success is something

1:04:07

I'm very proud of. For the reasons

1:04:09

that you articulated beautifully, it's

1:04:12

Africa. It

1:04:14

is filmed in the

1:04:16

wild. I mean, I think that seeps

1:04:20

into the DNA of the picture. Africa is,

1:04:22

it defies words.

1:04:26

And I've been very lucky to have traveled there

1:04:28

a bunch and to make a movie there. Oh

1:04:30

my, I mean, what a mess. Like,

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we would literally stop

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shooting for the day and on

1:04:38

the way back to where we were staying, we have, do

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you want to go on a safari? Yeah, let's take a

1:04:43

little drive. And we would, I

1:04:45

safari'd every day making that movie. All

1:04:48

of the elephants in the movie are

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real wild elephants.

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And that is all Kristin Davis, who has been

1:04:56

one of the elephant activists

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since day one. She produced the

1:05:00

movie. It was her idea to

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raise awareness on the plight facing

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elephants in Africa. So

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that is also a reason that the movie works so

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well. And she

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fought to have us shoot

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in Africa with real live elephants

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as opposed to like Agora Hills,

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California with Hollywood elephants, which we

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could have done for sure. So

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my hat is off to her because she is an amazing,

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amazing woman. And I'm glad you liked it so much. And

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if you haven't seen it, check it out. It's a very

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sweet movie. So thanks for listening and we will

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