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You're listening to our Mama

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waters that this podcast is recorded on. Hello,

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it's Jessie here dropping in on a public

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holiday. We have a special gift for you,

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little treats, I might say. We

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are dropping an episode of Cancelled

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all about our good friend Bella

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Hadid, who we have

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talked about recently on the podcast

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when she did her fantastic morning

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routine that we found incredibly inspiring,

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especially with her moss sea

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gel, which was maybe from the oceans

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of a desert. I don't know, but

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it makes her beautiful. So we were like, we

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want to know more about Bella Hadid. Luckily, a

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while ago, Claire and I put Bella

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Hadid on trial. We looked at her

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life and crimes, and then we offered

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her a charge and a sentence. So

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here it is. Please enjoy your

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public holiday. And we'll be back in your

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ears on Wednesday. Hello

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and welcome to Cancelled, the podcast that looks

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at silly celebrity crimes and assigns charges and

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sentences to them so that we can all

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move on with our lives. I'm

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Claire Stephens and I'm joined by

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Jessie Stephens. And Jessie, I've

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actually got a lazy girl story for us

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today because you are a very lazy girl

1:24

and couldn't even bring a

1:27

lazy girl story. Yeah. So

1:29

that's okay. I told this

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story on Mama Mia Out Loud, and I'll

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just put it here on the table, about

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the girl I saw who stacked it in

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public but continued to text. I

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can't work out if it's an ultimate lazy

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girl move or maybe the

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opposite. I think it's a lazy girl move. She

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stacked it, appeared to break her leg, and

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I went to help her, but she was very

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busy madly texting while moaning in

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pain. And it was one of the most

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confusing, confronting sites I've ever seen. live

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in the real world they live on

2:02

their phones. Yes. And so when something

2:04

happens she's like, oh I better send

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a message about this. She's commando crawled

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across a crossing and she was holding

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up traffic but she didn't appear to

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be in an emergency situation. Laser girl.

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We need to be present. Yeah, yeah.

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Actually. Laser girls break bones. Yeah, I've

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broken many a bone. Jessie, this comes

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from Miranda. Laser girl story.

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So last year I heard some sounds in my house while

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I was in bed. Oh, is this a ghost story? Uh,

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ish. Not really, no. It sounded

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like I could hear my back door. I

2:33

heard some banging and some rummaging and definitely

2:35

some foot hair. Okay, so you had an

2:38

intruder. I also heard my cat

2:40

meowing super loudly. So is this an intruder in

2:42

your home? My first thought was not

2:44

home invasion, it was ghost. So I

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listened a bit from bed and then

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decided to help. Definitely a home invasion.

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Something was being stolen

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in capital letters for sure. But

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I really, really didn't want to get out of bed. So

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I convinced myself my cat had the

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two AM zoomies and she was

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responsible for all the noises. Good

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point. Anyway, long story short, my

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car got solved and... Laser

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girl. She's a laser girl. And basically

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she lost a car. Because she couldn't

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be bothered getting out of bed. But

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also, have we evolved

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into laser girl mode? Is

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it an evolutionary... Because is it helpful for her

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to get up and say, maybe if she got

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up it could have been dangerous? Stop stealing my

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car? That's not why she didn't get up. But

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there was an instinct that told her stay in your warm

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bed. Stop your cat's doing the self defense. Your cat's got

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this. I like that the

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cat meowing. Get out. Get out.

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Actually, one time we were robbed

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and our dog did nothing. Didn't

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make a peep. Slapped heavily the

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whole time. Barked that. You know,

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the other issue with lazy girls.

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They don't lock their doors. They

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forget. So they get into bed and they go...

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Nothing to steal. Recipe for

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home invasion. Jessie, on today's

4:04

episode, we're talking about Isabella,

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Korea, Heddid. Korea?

4:10

Korea. I looked

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up how to pronounce it. It's not like Korea. It's

4:14

Care-Ria? No. No. Like,

4:17

Korea. It's

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K-H-A-I, like K-I-R-I-A-H. She's

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a 26-year-old model who's broken record.

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Isabella Heddid. Isabella Heddid, yeah. Sorry.

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Short-haired. Short-haired. Short-haired. Hi, Vogue.

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This is Bella Heddid. Now, Bella, I have to say

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that it's so cool to be able to

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ask you 73 questions at a horse stable. How

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cool is this? It's- Whoa! We have horses that

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are- Good morning! No, Bella loves a little raspy

4:41

towel. She loves a little raspy towel. Doesn't she?

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She needs it. She's a 26-year-old model

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who's broken records for appearing on so

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many magazine covers and is, according to

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science, the most beautiful woman in the

4:52

world. We have done her a mother, haven't

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we? Yolanda. Yolanda hates. She's

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a middle child. Her oldest sister

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is Gigi. Gigi

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Heddid. Her younger brother- I thought- I

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know. I get them mixed up. I would have thought

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Gigi was younger. Yeah, I know. And

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her younger brother is Anwar. Oh,

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we know all about Anwar. Yeah, yeah.

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He's the Rob Kardashian of the Heddids.

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Yeah, he released music recently. It's really

5:20

bad. Okay. Yeah, it's horrible. I find

5:22

it really hard to do any sort

5:24

of recap of a model's career. Because

5:27

it's like she's walked it all the

5:29

fashion weeks and from- For most, it's

5:31

not all of the brands. And

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she's on the cover of that

5:37

one too. Yeah, Victoria's Secret cover

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of Elle Bologari. Yeah.

5:41

Paris. That just reminds me of that.

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Maybe not. How do people find that interesting? I

5:45

don't. They're like Balmain. Who's

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Balmain? I don't think you say Balmain. I

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don't think you say Balmain because it's French. So

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I feel like they say, I'm Balmain. I've

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always said Balmain. Yeah, same. Obviously.

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I'm when I say always. I

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mean, I'm mostly referring to the suburb I've

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never bought the product. No. But

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Bella is a very successful model and

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that deserves to be respected. But

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importantly, she needs to come to the

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cancel courtroom for reasons that include awkward

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videos, lying and cosplaying

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as Paul. Jesse, my

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structure for today is as follows. It's

6:20

a junky one. Having a

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new face. Two very

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different videos. Lying about

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pizza. Allegedly growing up

6:29

Paul. A problematic TikTok sound and

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a photo of a shoe that broke the

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internet. Because when we did

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Yolanda, we referred to the nose

6:38

job. Is it me? Because Yolanda was looked at her 14

6:40

year old and went, let's get that nose job. It went,

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come on, I'll take you to the nose job shop. Yeah.

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To me. That's a Yolanda who did cry.

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Yes. Because she, see, Bella was

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under the age of culpability. Yeah.

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Exactly right. Yeah. As

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previously stated, Bella is the most

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beautiful woman in the world. A

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study was carried out by Dr. Julian

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De Silva, who is described as a

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gold medalist plastic surgeon. Jesse,

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there are no medalists for plastic surgery. And

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if there are, that is a problem.

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He's just some guy in LA who has had too much

7:16

surgery himself. Yes. He applied. Is he

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a botch? I don't know. Probably

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have more authority if he was. But

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he applied the golden ratio, which

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is a ratio devised by the

7:27

ancient Greeks to measure physical beauty

7:30

to various female celebrities. Apparently. Brad

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Pitt's got a good one. Yeah,

7:34

obviously. I thought Angelina Jolie was the

7:36

most beautiful person in the world. But anyway, a

7:39

visually balanced face is meant

7:41

to be 1.6 times longer than it is wide. Okay.

7:46

It's as you're reading this, I'm reminded of a message

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I was sent on Twitter this week. I

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wrote a story about having the flu and

7:55

having COVID and

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I had a person slide into

8:00

my Twitter DMs and say that from looking

8:02

at my face, he could tell that I

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had a deformity, which meant

8:06

that I had some illness that he

8:09

believed would make me more susceptible to

8:11

COVID like long-term effects

8:13

and that I would pass it

8:15

on to my baby because it's

8:17

genetic. But when you looked at

8:19

the condition, he was like, he

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listed a whole lot of things about all

8:24

these things are wrong with your face,

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which are all symptoms of this condition

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and I think you should get it

8:30

checked out. A cardinal symptom of which

8:32

is extreme flexibility and you are the

8:34

least flexible person. He was

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like, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's why your eyes are so

8:39

far apart. I was like, I've never thought my eyes

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were that far apart. He was in control.

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He also had a golden ratio. Yeah, your

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own golden ratio. So 1.6

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times longer than it is wide and

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the distance from the top of your

8:52

nose, our producer caught me this morning,

8:55

from the top of your nose to

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the center of your lips should

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be about 1.6 times the

9:01

distance from the center of your lips

9:04

to the chin. Oh, wow. I can't

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say you don't have enough chin. Hey

9:09

now, the extent... You've got

9:11

too much mid-face. That's too

9:13

much mid-face. Oh, no, no, no,

9:15

sorry. I've

9:18

too much forehead as one thing. But

9:21

the extent to which my measurements

9:23

would upset this doctor, he'd be

9:25

like, so 1.6 is the

9:27

ideal? Yeah. And

9:30

all of a sudden, he'd be

9:32

screaming and things would be on fire

9:34

and smoking and the experiment

9:38

required no equipment. So why is there a

9:40

chemical reaction happening in the background? He would

9:42

just be duller science. He'd be really

9:44

upset by my face. Yeah. And

9:47

he'd be like, come on, I'll give you all the surgeries. And I'm

9:49

saying, no, I can't afford them. Anywho,

9:52

Bella wins. The winner of

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best face

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is Bella Hadid. got a

10:00

rating of 94.3. That's right. And her face.

10:02

She got the nose job when she was

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14. I'm looking at her face right now

10:07

just so that I can decide whether I

10:09

agree. Well, second was Beyonce, then Ariana Grande,

10:11

Taylor Swift, Scarlett Johansson. And

10:13

just as a side note, speaking

10:15

of people we can't follow along the way, Dr.

10:18

Julian De Silva. Shut

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up. Could you not be doing... Nada. I

10:22

agree. ...Benther research with your research

10:25

field? You're not kind of a medical doctor.

10:27

Go find a cure to cancer instead of

10:29

looking at people's faces and be like, you're

10:31

number one and you're number six. Or do

10:33

plastic surgery that's like important instead of being

10:36

like, Bella Hadid is beautiful. I

10:38

know. I know. But

10:40

yes, Jessie. Yeah, her face is different to yours. I

10:42

can see that. I can see that. You raise a

10:45

good point, which is it's not her

10:47

OG face. No. So

10:49

she did say last year in a Vogue

10:51

profile that she had the nose job at

10:53

14, as we discussed, on

10:55

your lander. Bella has

10:58

denied having any other cosmetic procedures. Oh,

11:00

that's not what I'd do before. No,

11:03

no. She says she hasn't had filler. She

11:05

says... Didn't she say she didn't have a nose

11:07

job until... Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That

11:09

seems to be the case. They're like, stop accusing me of

11:11

having plastic surgery. And then they have something to promote. And

11:13

they're like, I heard all of it. In fact.

11:16

I did have all of it. Yes.

11:19

I mean, for that, her lips are completely different

11:21

to what they were. I'm

11:23

actually not going to go deep into

11:26

her face and how

11:28

it has changed because...

11:30

Really? Because that's all you've

11:33

talked about. So far. Because I

11:35

don't know what it feels like to grow up with a GG.

11:38

No offense. No

11:41

offense. And as a

11:43

Yolanda, who's like, come on, in the car.

11:45

Are we going to get eye cream? Mom,

11:47

no, we're going to fix your nose. It's

11:50

going to hurt. And now I have two daughters

11:52

in the car. And only one of Jenny and

11:55

Noah's job today. We don't bother with Anwar. No,

11:58

he's fine. He needs help. a sock

12:00

line. So

12:02

I think the ultimate criminal here,

12:05

as previously stated, is Dr. Julian.

12:08

And to a lesser extent, Yolanda. Yolanda. Jesse.

12:12

Two very different videos. One

12:15

of our favourite things in the cancer courtroom is

12:17

when people put on different accents. Yes.

12:21

So Ilaria Baldwin, Lindsay Lowen,

12:23

Liam Payne. It makes

12:25

us feel funny. So I need

12:27

to talk about two... Shows that people aren't sure of

12:29

who they are. I need

12:31

to talk about two Bella Hadid videos that give

12:33

off very different energy because in one she's an

12:35

American woman and in the other she's a French

12:37

woman. First, Bella

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the American. In 2017,

12:42

this video is

12:44

released where Bella Hadid

12:47

is going sneaker shopping. It's

12:50

like this segment. And she's

12:52

giving off gangster vibes. I'm just gonna play

12:54

you a little bit of it. And I

12:56

don't mind dirty sneakers but they better refresh.

13:00

If Homeboy's coming through with these, it's

13:02

quiet. Yeah, no, it's quiet for him.

13:04

But if he comes through

13:06

in these, Homeboy's

13:09

gonna get it.

13:11

She's quite ghetto American.

13:14

She uses the word dope a

13:16

lot. And she does say, Homeboy's

13:18

gonna get it. Yes. Very

13:20

LA. And who is Homeboy?

13:24

She also has 200 pairs of Nike's at

13:26

home, which is super relatable. But Jessie, there

13:28

were lots of memes that came out of

13:30

that video. I just want you to read

13:33

out just these three here.

13:35

I guess they're mixed up with like,

13:38

Hayley Bieber. Yes, they're very similar. I

13:40

think they're friends. And someone else. They're

13:42

just the same person. Okay, so Bella

13:46

Hadid talk like an undercover cop. That's

13:49

very true. Like, how do you

13:51

do, Bella kids? I

13:53

see Bella Hadid in the corner of my

13:55

room repeating dope and Homeboy when I'm having

13:57

sleep paralysis. I agree. Bella

14:00

had said, dope, fresh and homeboy within

14:03

a five second span. There has to

14:05

be a law against that. That is

14:07

very true. That is a

14:09

case for the council. Yes, that

14:11

is criminal. I remember when we

14:13

were in maybe year 10 and

14:15

you started dating a skater boy and

14:17

we started using the word rad. Oh,

14:21

I started saying yo. No,

14:23

no, no, no. My way. I remember I was

14:25

trying to be cool in front of somebody on

14:28

MSN and you said be

14:30

cool and I put yo and you went. And

14:33

I kept saying that's rad. Yeah. And people

14:35

would make fun of me. You had a

14:37

skater girl for a minute there. I did. I did. In

14:41

2021, she debuted her

14:43

French accent. So Bella goes

14:45

French. Had she been spending

14:47

a lot of time in France? Not particularly.

14:50

She lives in the US. Obviously

14:52

she does a lot of travelling, which is lovely.

14:54

But she's in Paris coming out of a show.

14:58

And this is what she sounds like. One

15:00

is the best. And this collection was to die

15:02

for. No kisses. No,

15:05

like a chef. No,

15:07

no. Here's

15:10

another one. It was

15:12

amazing. Beautiful. The wedding

15:14

dress. And I might have to say that. I

15:18

can't. She has like a broadly European

15:20

where it's like her mouth can't quite

15:23

get around the English words and

15:25

it's deeper. Yes. It's like she's

15:27

a homeboy and then she's like,

15:30

oh, the dress is so nice.

15:33

I'm in Paris. What

15:35

I will say, Bella can speak a

15:37

little bit of French because I have

15:40

seen clips where she was at

15:42

Cannes and she speaks in French, but

15:45

I still think the

15:47

contrast between French Bella

15:49

and American Bella is

15:52

incredible. She looks like a

15:54

completely different person when she goes French. To

15:56

sack your lander's daughter when she's going

15:58

full homeboy. Yeah. It's a

16:00

very European catwalk when

16:03

she goes to France. Which was on her Paris, yeah. Everyone

16:06

on Twitter is just always

16:08

thinking about Bella Hadid's French

16:11

accent. And here's a meme

16:13

that went viral at the time. Okay

16:15

it says, when you've been in Paris an

16:18

hour and already forgotten you're American, and she's

16:20

got those little sunglasses on that only Europeans

16:22

can wear. Is she saying

16:24

Saint-Monde is the best? Yeah, no. Ah,

16:27

no. No. That's when

16:29

I got back from London. I was like,

16:32

Poop of the morning to ya. You

16:34

reckon? Yeah. Actually,

16:36

okay, that is something I forget about Bella Hadid. Quite

16:39

young. Quite young. So

16:41

we feel weird about Bella

16:43

Hadid's fake French accent. Jessie,

16:45

lying about pizza. Okay. In

16:48

2022, in an interview with ID,

16:50

the publications she gets interviewed for

16:53

are so left of centre. But

16:55

Bella is asked about her favourite

16:57

go-to snack. And

16:59

she says the following.

17:01

My favourite go-to snack, probably

17:04

a pizza, at least once

17:07

a day. Jessie, did she go

17:10

to say once a week and

17:12

then change today? Once

17:14

a day. There's so much wrong with what I

17:16

just saw. Yeah, go on. She's

17:19

clearly lying. Okay. B, pizza

17:21

isn't a snack, it's a meal. Everyone

17:24

knows that. Even when you're

17:26

eating it in a snack capacity, it's a meal. When

17:28

someone says, what's your favourite snack? The answer is chips

17:30

or chocolate. Or, no, you get

17:32

more specific M&Ms. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just specifically name

17:34

a snack. I mean, slice. But

17:37

it's like, what's your favourite snack? Burgers once a day.

17:39

Calm down. I

17:43

have burgers every day, but call them a

17:45

meal. She's gone pizza

17:47

once a week. She's realised that's not an

17:49

impressive thing to say, especially when it's just

17:51

a snack. So, everyone's assuming

17:53

you're having half a piece of

17:55

pizza at four? And

17:58

then she's gone. Got to be related. be

18:00

relatable every day I'm having pizza as

18:02

a snack. She's

18:04

clearly had a glitch. Yeah.

18:08

And gone, how often do these regular

18:10

people eat pizza? Yes. She

18:12

almost wants to stop someone on the street and

18:14

say, hi, hi, you're a normal person. How

18:17

much pizza do you eat? It's

18:19

relatable. How often? How

18:21

often? Are we talking a

18:24

weekly, a monthly basis? A monthly,

18:26

daily, hourly? Because even

18:28

saying, I have pizza once a week is

18:30

just not an interesting sentence. No. So

18:32

clearly she went, day. Which is, as before, much. Too much.

18:35

She's just too much. So you don't believe that Bella

18:37

has pizza once a day? I

18:43

don't believe that Bella has pizza once a day.

18:45

And this is why. Pizza

18:48

as a snack is

18:51

too hard to get your hands on for a snack

18:53

once a day. You generally, I

18:55

know that she lives in America, but she

18:57

is French. So there's also

18:59

that. But like in Australia, you'd

19:02

have to buy a whole pizza. Yeah. To

19:04

then have a snack of that. To

19:07

then hold on for a week and really after two

19:09

or three days. Are we getting sick?

19:11

You think, so what you've done, I imagine

19:13

you live either alone or with a partner. You've

19:16

bought a whole pizza. You

19:18

put it in the fridge. And every day, I

19:20

don't know, one. But that

19:22

clashes with one time. You're having

19:24

a slice. Yes. As a

19:27

snack. How long does that last? I just don't think that

19:29

by the sixth day, it's appropriate. I would have pressed. As

19:31

an interviewer, I would have pressed. And

19:35

I wouldn't draw. Oh, sorry. What time do you

19:37

have your snack pizza? When did

19:39

you have your pizza today? Today. What

19:42

was on it? What consists

19:44

of a snack? A whole piece

19:47

or a quarter? Just a gasp. She's

19:49

a liar. She's lied. She's lied about

19:51

her pizza. She's

19:53

lied about her pizza consumption. She's misinterpreted

19:55

what the word snack means

19:57

from the perspective of being on.

20:00

How the average person behaves. Growing

20:10

up poor. In 2021, Bella

20:12

did an episode of Vogue's Life

20:14

in Looks series where she goes

20:16

through 15 of her past looks

20:18

and she talks about them. One

20:20

of the looks she talked about was this

20:22

one from Khan. And

20:25

look, I'd ask you to say something about it,

20:27

but I don't know what there is to say.

20:29

This is on her leg with a leg and

20:31

shoes. You know, I don't have a lot of opinions

20:33

on shoes, but I don't like those shoes. No. They're

20:36

song heels. I'm never lying to them. No.

20:39

Because they go in and out of fashion very quickly. What do

20:41

you think of the dress? I can't

20:43

really see it. Yeah, pink and short. And

20:46

she's in France and it's 2021 and you

20:48

just know that she's leaning over the balcony

20:51

going oui, oui, oui. Oui, oui. Un

20:53

beau beau. She looks

20:55

lovely. And it must have been a designer

20:57

outfit because she went on to tell the

21:00

interviewer about this photo. Hey, it must be

21:02

mama. Mama. She

21:04

said. I never growing up had

21:07

anything designer. You know, my mom wouldn't

21:09

let me. I think I got my first pair of Louboutins

21:11

when I graduated high school.

21:14

It makes me emotional actually because I'm

21:16

like so happy in this picture.

21:18

Claire, when did you get your first Louboutins?

21:20

I have never owned a pair. I would

21:22

not know what they look like. She

21:25

said, I feel so good about myself.

21:27

I felt so beautiful compared to my younger

21:29

self. She was so sad and currently is

21:31

so content and happy. We

21:34

actually can relate because we also

21:36

grew up with nothing designer. Yeah. And

21:40

that includes like pumpkin patch. I

21:42

thought that Billabong was designer. How about

21:44

that? I thought that I

21:47

thought a brand name. Yes. I

21:49

think remember Hamer or Target has like

21:51

hot piping hot. Yeah. That's

21:53

a brand. Yeah. Maha

21:56

Woodrow is having a hot. I'm a brand gal.

21:59

And then I'd want. shoes with three stripes. Well,

22:01

you always end up with four and you

22:03

were like, what was this reveal? Or

22:06

alternatively income? Yeah. Very

22:09

publicly. Jessie,

22:11

the reason we grew up with

22:13

Nothing Designer wasn't because our

22:15

mum wouldn't let us. Or

22:17

was it? She wouldn't

22:20

let us because it would have

22:22

plunged our family into her horrific

22:24

debt because like most people,

22:26

we absolutely could not afford it.

22:29

Bella's mum, Yolanda, has

22:32

an estimated net worth of $45 million. She

22:36

was a top model

22:39

and doesn't her dad like a tycoon

22:41

or something? Yeah. So her father, Mohammed,

22:43

a luxury real estate developer, has an

22:45

estimated net worth between a hundred and

22:47

two hundred million. In Santa, if

22:50

my parents were that rich and they weren't buying me,

22:53

I'd be like, Jess,

22:55

they grew up. Like

22:58

Bella grew up in an $85 million

23:01

custom built mansion. As

23:03

a teenager, she was really into equestrian and

23:06

wanted to compete at the 2016 Summer Olympics,

23:08

which we've said it once, we'll say it

23:10

again. Only rich people can be into horse

23:13

riding. Yeah. So

23:15

she's being delusional, poor person who's

23:17

the best at horses. Correct. Louboutin

23:20

start at $695 and the most expensive

23:22

pair is nearly $6,000. Can

23:27

you imagine mum buying a... Twins?

23:34

She would have said the following, you're only going

23:36

to grow out of them. Yeah. We

23:38

can't afford it. We can't afford it. They don't sell

23:40

them a paper. She wouldn't know where to get them.

23:43

That's actually really true. I don't know where to get them. David

23:46

Jones? I don't know. Surely.

23:48

Online? Yeah. This

23:51

isn't the first time Bella has talked about

23:53

how hard it was to grow up without

23:55

buying designer items. Well,

23:58

yeah, it makes her emotional. L

24:00

in 2017, she said, I

24:03

know all the secrets for how to shop for

24:05

good stuff on a budget because I didn't buy

24:07

anything designer until I turned 18. When I was

24:10

18, I finally let myself

24:12

buy a designer piece. I

24:14

bought a pair of Louboutins because that's what

24:16

you do when you're 18. Jesse,

24:19

is that what you do when

24:21

you're 18? We used to go

24:23

to direct factory outlet, where something

24:25

like a brand name such as

24:27

Bons was having

24:29

a sale on hoodies before

24:32

winter. In which case we

24:34

would go hard. Or

24:36

mum would say, you want a formal dress? Buy

24:39

it yourself and you can only spend $80. It's

24:42

like, and I'm going to make you feel guilty for

24:45

it. Yes, she can. A

24:47

little sick look. A sick look on

24:49

everyone's face. When mum, I can't afford

24:51

shoes. Money

24:54

is dying. Jess,

24:57

Bella cosplayed.

24:59

She's continuing to cosplay, being

25:01

poor, growing up. And

25:04

sweetie, you have absolutely no

25:07

idea. Jesse, a

25:09

problematic TikTok sound. You've

25:12

probably heard the sound on TikTok that's

25:15

like, so my name, my

25:17

name is Bella Hadid. So

25:20

my name, my

25:22

name is Bella Hadid. The idea

25:24

is that it's a sound that goes

25:26

over the top of videos when people

25:28

are being skinny or like doing skinny

25:30

behaviour. So when they're eating a

25:33

salad or drinking a green juice or trying

25:35

on a really small t-shirt that's snacking on

25:37

pizza and then it fits. There's

25:39

one that has millions of views where a

25:41

guy takes a glass from a cabinet, fills

25:44

it with water, drinks it, and then puts

25:46

the empty glass next to a piece of

25:48

uneaten pizza. And the audio

25:50

says, so my name, my name is Bella

25:52

Hadid. There's been

25:55

panic because

25:57

everyone thinks the sound is promoting.

26:00

dangerous food habits. Is that

26:02

Bella's fault though? Do we know that Bella

26:04

has dangerous food habits? Well I

26:07

think it is a little bit awkward given

26:10

that Bella Hadid has been

26:12

quite vocal about experiencing

26:15

anorexia. So she spoke

26:17

to Vogue last year and

26:19

detailed how little she would eat and

26:21

what it was like to feel like

26:23

Gigi Hadid's uglier sister. So

26:26

it does feel a bit odd to make a joke

26:29

out of eating disorder behaviours and then

26:31

use the voice of somebody who quite

26:33

openly suffered from an eating disorder. Yeah

26:36

but I think what this all comes

26:38

down to is that people want some

26:42

honesty reflected about

26:44

what it takes to be Bella Hadid. Yes

26:46

what it takes to be Bella Hadid but

26:48

also they want to call out the

26:50

pizza bullshit. Yeah no I get that.

26:53

Yeah but this is not Bella Hadid's

26:55

I think that we cancel TikTok in

26:57

such a case is not Bella Hadid's

26:59

fault. Yes correct. Jessie

27:01

a photo of a shoe that

27:03

broke the internet.

27:06

In 2019 Bella Hadid posted a photo

27:08

of her foot and was accused of

27:10

being a racist. And

27:13

doesn't that sum up the internet?

27:15

She posted an Instagram story at

27:17

an airport looking out

27:19

at the big windows towards the planes.

27:22

Which really you only get in a lounge. Yeah. Yes. Yep.

27:26

And we had to wait till she was like six to go into a

27:28

lounge. Oh don't it's too sad. In

27:31

the photo her shoe which is a

27:33

black boot is resting against

27:35

the window with the soul face

27:38

towards the planes. And

27:40

if you look closely the planes are

27:42

from Saudi Arabia and the United Arab

27:45

Emirates. In

27:48

some cultures showing the bottom

27:51

of your feet or the soles of your

27:53

shoes is considered offense. Never heard

27:55

of it. People. Not that it's

27:57

not true I've just personally never heard of it. imagine

28:00

that Bella Hadid had never heard of it. People

28:03

cannot seriously have thought she

28:05

was making a statement with

28:07

this photo. The hashtag Bella

28:10

Hadid is racist started to go

28:12

viral and people started calling on

28:14

the brands she works with to drop

28:16

her. She ended up- Imagine

28:18

you're like a brand manager at Balmer and

28:20

you're living your life and they call and they're like Bella

28:22

Hadid's a racist and you're like, oh, well, we're going to

28:25

have to drop her, but we should probably know for what

28:27

she did. Well, she posted a picture of her shoe.

28:29

Did her shoe have a Nazi sign on it?

28:31

No. No. Did it say I hate people

28:34

who don't look like me? No, her shoe did

28:36

not say that. No. She had the bottom of

28:38

her shoe. It was your okay plane. Had

28:40

she stepped on people

28:43

of colour? No, she hadn't. It's

28:47

the bottom of her shoe is offensive

28:50

custom. Is faced towards planes,

28:53

which now represent countries. According

28:55

to the apparently she

28:58

ended up posting this big apology

29:00

to Instagram where she said it

29:02

was a quote, an honest mistake

29:04

on an early morning, which I'm

29:06

like, honestly, the mistake made on an

29:09

early morning so much. The weird thing

29:11

is that the way the media works,

29:13

all the headlines were like Bella

29:17

Hadid responds to backlash over

29:19

offensive Instagram photo or Bella

29:21

Hadid forced to apologize over racist Instagram posts.

29:23

You think that she's at the window like

29:25

putting a few united Arab Emirates being like,

29:27

nah, you're the worst country. And it's like

29:29

we just took for granted that it was

29:31

offensive racist and that there was some intention

29:34

behind it. It is a thing. Okay, it

29:36

is a thing. And it was a lot

29:38

of people from the Middle East

29:45

saying this is a custom.

29:48

But I think it has to be understood

29:50

that that was not what she meant. And

29:53

that surely calling

29:56

that out and bringing it was a story. It was an Instagram

29:59

story. It was only going to last for 24 hours.

30:01

By calling it out, it's

30:04

blowing up the elates racism. And

30:06

it's garnering a whole lot more

30:09

attention towards something you find offensive.

30:11

But Claire, the next time you're

30:14

at an airport in a business land, looking

30:16

at three planes

30:19

that are all from the Middle East with

30:21

the bottom of your boot showing, you'll think twice. Exactly.

30:24

I thought this

30:26

comment in response to her apology really

30:28

summed things up. It said, we

30:31

don't care if you did it by

30:33

mistake or not, but you are famous.

30:35

You should be more carefully. You

30:39

should be more carefully. And

30:41

that's it. I care. Well put. Point

30:44

is you're famous and therefore I will

30:46

hold you to standards that change often.

30:49

That I do not mean myself.

30:51

I have only just learned that this is

30:53

not a good thing to do. You should

30:55

have known because you are famous and

30:58

therefore have access to all of the knowledge in the

31:00

world. I hate the internet. Jesse,

31:07

it's time to charge in sentences.

31:14

My charge is this. And

31:16

it hits a little bit closer home. Something that

31:19

often happens in court is that when you

31:21

bring a charge, it is something that is

31:23

personal to you. So you look at

31:26

a case and go through, you could only ever

31:28

look at a case through your lens. Yeah. There's

31:30

no objective way to do law. Yeah. It's

31:32

based on things such as mood, vibe,

31:35

attitude, and your experiences.

31:38

How I feel today, which

31:40

is a bit off. So

31:44

Jesse, my charge is pretending

31:46

to be

31:48

poor in her life. That

31:51

really upset me. Yeah. Because as

31:53

I mentioned, we used to have to and we brought

31:55

this up before, but we will bring it up again.

31:58

Sometimes we had to get a weekly a new release. Yeah.

32:01

I just knocked my water bottle out of

32:03

frustration because it made me sad. We

32:06

did have to get weeklies and weeklies

32:08

weren't as good. And we would,

32:10

you know, go for a day out

32:13

doing some sort of activity like going to

32:15

a park. Yes. And we'd

32:17

get hungry at lunchtime and mum would have packed

32:20

sandwiches. And that was horrible. She

32:22

would have packed sandwiches and fish and

32:24

chips like everyone else and pop-tops that

32:26

were warm. And

32:29

the pop-tops had actually already

32:31

been drunk and now they just had replacement

32:33

cordial. Yes. And it just

32:35

was not the same. She would say if you're thirsty

32:37

drink water. And

32:39

then you'd go to like sport like Jack

32:41

and Nick would be playing rugby league and

32:44

everyone's going to the canteen. They're getting a powerade.

32:47

Not unless. No, no, no, no, no. Have some

32:49

water. I don't want it. Sometimes

32:52

I'd get like 20 cent red frogs. Yeah. And

32:55

to be clear, we weren't poor. We

32:58

were just probably normal. Yes. That

33:00

is what it's like to live as a normal person in the

33:02

world when you don't live in an $85 million house. Correct.

33:06

Just my sentence. Bella

33:08

Hadid is known for her fashion and

33:11

her style. I

33:14

do not know

33:16

the difference. And she

33:19

clearly thinks that she was

33:22

disadvantaged by having not

33:24

had designer clothes before That

33:27

is something that really held her

33:29

back in life. So what

33:31

I want is that for the

33:33

duration of our childhood, which was let's

33:36

say 10 years. I'm

33:38

going to need her to be dressed by mum. By

33:42

our mum. My mum's all say,

33:45

what are those? What

33:47

are those? Oh, honey. No,

33:50

no, no, no, no, no.

33:53

Remember the time she took you to Target, bought you the matching

33:55

velvet track thing? That's what she'll do. Bella,

33:57

come on. Come on. By

34:00

the way, they weren't cheap. They

34:02

were not cheap. No. An elastic

34:04

waistband so that as you grew, so

34:06

too did the petting. Because

34:09

it can't be getting, and

34:11

remember every time you get a school shoe, the

34:14

big fuss, it's like, yo, your shoes, your feet

34:16

are gonna grow. What? I'm sorry.

34:19

I'm really sorry. I'm sorry. That

34:21

I'm growing. And that you need to keep

34:23

purchasing things. The thing about-

34:25

We don't buy designer shoes for children.

34:27

The thing about Bella Hadid is that

34:29

the quality of every item of clothing

34:32

that she wears must just be so

34:34

good. And people often look

34:36

at her, and they do the same thing

34:38

with Hailey Bieber, and they say, is she

34:41

good at fashion? Is she stylish or is she rich?

34:43

Great question. No, well, three things.

34:46

Is she stylish? Yeah. Or is

34:48

she just rich? Yeah. Or is she just really

34:50

thin? Oh, great question. And the

34:52

thing is, mum will test that. Mum

34:55

will test that because she'll go, here's

34:57

some low quality cotton. You

35:00

can wear that- I'm wearing an iron in this home. No,

35:02

no, no, no, no, no, no. So

35:04

you wear that. And you silk shirt, Now

35:07

it's a different fabric. It's

35:10

ruined. How about that? And

35:13

when Bella Hadid goes to

35:15

Cannes. Yeah. Well, it's okay.

35:17

Mum's shop for formal dresses, of course. She'll get

35:19

you something. She'll get you something nice. You

35:22

would not believe what you can pick up

35:24

at Vinnie's. No, no. I believe. So

35:27

that's just throw something around the middle. That's what

35:29

mum needs to say. Yeah. You just

35:31

need the belt. What?

35:35

Mum, it's meant to be knee length,

35:37

this is down to my ankle. Just wear a belt.

35:40

You'll be fine. So that's what she needs. Just

35:42

so- I like that. She

35:44

can really start to understand what

35:47

it's like to not be

35:49

wearing designer brands. Yeah. Yeah.

35:52

Okay, I like that. Jessie, what's your charge on sentence? It's

35:55

pretty simple. And I'm not sure

35:57

if it's one that we've properly

35:59

prosecuted. It's come up a lot, but

36:01

I'm not sure if it's a crime that's

36:04

officially been added into the rule book.

36:06

But it's in regards to accents. And

36:09

we can't just be trying on accents

36:11

because it's embarrassing and cringe for those

36:13

reasons. It's confusing in

36:15

terms of a coherence. And

36:18

so my sentence is pick an accent and any accent.

36:20

Pick to it. Yep, just one. Happy

36:22

for her to be French. Happy for her to

36:24

be Get OLA. Get OLA. Absolutely.

36:28

But we've got to have some consistency long

36:30

term. We can't be going to Paris, putting

36:33

on an accent, going to London. Then

36:36

what? We go to New

36:39

Zealand. I can't

36:41

do a New Zealand accent. Sex. One,

36:44

two, three, four, five sex. Exactly. Oh,

36:46

come on Bella. No, Bella. No.

36:49

You get OLA. No. Everyone

36:51

has to pick an accent, stick to it. Yes.

36:55

Otherwise, I... It's the first...

36:58

It is. It is. It

37:01

is to the French people. To real French people.

37:04

Yeah, yeah. Real French people everywhere

37:06

deserve to be respected for

37:08

their accent. You can't cosplay poor and

37:10

you can't cosplay French. Great

37:13

lessons out of today's cancel. Jessie,

37:15

that's all we've got time for. We

37:18

will put the receipts on

37:20

the twins underscore thoughts on

37:23

Instagram. Jessie's doing a bit of a shady

37:25

look, but she will at some point. That

37:27

is convenient to her. And

37:30

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37:33

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37:35

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