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Well,

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of a serious universe. Season twenty

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eight episode twelve. Coming up on this show,

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got the ancient God King of the North

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Pole. The cult of the black

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cube and the ambiguous genitalia

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of the onsen men in black.

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My Benjamin Grundy joining me is Aaron Wright. I

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did wanna title that the smoothie onset

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of Japan, but then it just doesn't have the same ring to

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ambiguous genitalia. You have to be a

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pretty hardcore MU fan to get

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the term smoothie and understand that

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it's not a fruity drink that you're

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consuming in the onsen in Japan. It's something

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else. Well, it's coming up in our plus extension, so

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normally if you're in plus, you probably aren't gonna be

0:52

aware as to what that is. But, yes, I've got some wild

0:54

men in black encounters coming out of Japan in a

0:56

plus extension. What is this wrong? Japan.

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Oh,

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where's his story from? Brett Swanson. Okay.

1:01

Thank you. Our source. Our number one

1:03

source in Dehan. Thank you. Yes.

1:05

He is an excellent source, isn't What have you got

1:07

coming up? I went down a deep dive

1:10

into the cult, the

1:12

cult of the black cube. Oh, I've been

1:14

seeing this on social media recently. It's a bit

1:16

of a meme you see these occasional posts

1:19

where people give you

1:21

pictures of black cubes on people's

1:23

hats and black cubes out this

1:26

outside of companies and --

1:28

Yeah. -- the the black The black

1:30

cube, mecca -- Yeah. -- it's some

1:32

ancient mysterious cult. of

1:35

baby eaters? Yes. Because it's

1:37

always referred to as being some type of satanic

1:39

because it links to satin and it's a representation

1:42

of satanic forces What's

1:44

this? Well, I'll tell you where I started today.

1:46

I I went to this really interesting

1:48

book called The Cult of The BlackCube by

1:51

this character or controversial

1:53

character known as Arthur Morris. Mhmm.

1:55

It's a full full title of the

1:57

cult of the Black cube, a saturnian

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grimoire. So it's like a

2:01

it's a magical thing. Yeah. And and

2:04

what pulled me into it was this guy's

2:06

personal story, which then

2:08

led further into this

2:11

cult of Saturn and further

2:13

into ancient history. So I ended up

2:15

going into the work of David Talbot today

2:17

-- Oh, yes. -- the idea of this

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Saturn being an ancient

2:23

sun god and it was worshiped

2:25

by cultures all around the world going into

2:27

the distant distant past. and that

2:30

further into the idea that perhaps the

2:32

order of the cosmos was entirely

2:35

different to the ancients as to the way

2:37

we see it today. like, we look into

2:39

our skies today and we presume that

2:41

the ancient sword in the same way

2:43

that, you mean, like, the planets you have the

2:46

sun and the moon and you have the constellations

2:48

and everything's rotating at a certain speed.

2:51

And we just assume that it's always been that way or

2:53

it's at least been that way for as long as humans

2:55

have been on this planet.

2:57

But

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some scholars argue that

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that it's not the case that the

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order of the heavens went

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through multiple cataclysmic upheavles.

3:08

in the memory of humankind. And

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this memory has come to us

3:13

through myth. Oh. So when you look, they

3:15

were talking far greater than just

3:17

recorded history. Yeah. Like a myth. When you

3:19

look through myth, you see all this symbolism

3:21

of, you know, the gods fighting, like Zeus,

3:24

fighting the titans and then banishing them

3:26

to tartarus. For example, we we see these

3:29

in the upanishads, and it's all across

3:32

the legends of Asia, and even if you go

3:34

to Polynesian tribes, they have similar kind

3:36

of stories. And the idea is

3:38

that they're portraying something that

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they experienced. It's not all

3:42

just some kind of

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metaphysical explanation

3:48

for an idea. It's it's a description of

3:50

something they witnessed. It's something they saw

3:52

in the sky. And so it's

3:54

funny how I went from this grimoire

3:57

to this deep dive into history, but

3:59

I'll I'll explain how that happened. But

4:02

I wanted to start with this guy's story because

4:04

it is really intriguing this Arthur

4:06

Morris. And there's all this debate

4:09

about whether he's

4:10

real

4:11

about who he really is. So it's like a pseudonym

4:14

is using. Maybe it's a pseudonym. But

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in the introduction to this grimoire, he

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says, look, when I asked what particular

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spiritual tradition I follow. He says I

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often have to resist the urge to say,

4:25

satanine nosis, you know, the following

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of the day that he satan. He

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says this because the experiences, rituals,

4:32

and practices that I follow are ultimately connected

4:35

to Gothic entities and their ruling

4:37

intelligence. That fundamentally

4:40

is not a good or kindly

4:42

being, namely the

4:44

Saturnian deity. So a photonic

4:46

entity is something of

4:48

the underworld. It's a it's a being of the underworld.

4:51

Mhmm. It's not something of the Elysium

4:53

or something up higher. It's something from down

4:55

below. So we would today would probably

4:58

call it a demon or something like that. And

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he says, like, explaining myself and

5:03

my views and practices is often more trouble

5:05

than it's worth. And frankly, for years, he

5:07

says, I didn't feel any inclination to

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codify or share my understandings

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with anyone else. But he says,

5:13

however, in the last several years, a series

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of events, coincidences and

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synchronicities have run together

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in such a way that I believe the

5:22

saddening deity wishes

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these things to be shared. So

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he's saying he's being commanded.

5:32

to write this grimoire. So is that

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suggesting that he's possessed

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or that it's a channeling of some

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kind? Well, we'll get into that.

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He he says I'm going try and relate a series

5:42

of occult teachings and techniques gathered

5:45

from over twenty years of serious academic

5:47

and esoteric research. But he says,

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look first, I need to tell you little bit about

5:51

myself. And this is the story that

5:53

sent me down this rabbit hole. So he says

5:55

when he was in his senior of high school,

5:58

He was in a really bad car accident, shockingly

6:01

bad. He damaged his

6:03

spine, his right leg was

6:05

completely crippled. when he

6:07

got the the x rays back, they showed

6:09

that, you know, the section of his spine

6:12

that connects to his hips, his cocky legs, It's

6:14

completely obliterated. It's like

6:17

a million paces. It's pieced. And

6:20

he's in terrible constant

6:23

pain. And probably would be for a long time

6:25

and this this pain

6:27

stays with him during the day.

6:29

and it stays with him and

6:31

never goes away. It's impossible to sleep.

6:33

He can't study. He can't concentrate. He

6:36

can't even move without tons

6:38

of medication. This is how bad it is.

6:41

And he says he's sitting in agony

6:44

and the damage caused

6:46

to his spine or sitting towards agony. Sorry.

6:48

And the damage caused to his spine may

6:51

made him lose control of the

6:53

leg that was damaged. So he could

6:55

only hobble around and he was at school at

6:57

the time, I like the late teens. And

7:00

he had to start using a cane as well. So

7:02

imagine he's just, like, drugged out

7:04

from, you know, from the painkillers. He

7:07

can barely walk around. He's in pain

7:09

all the time. He looks like crap because he's

7:11

you know, lost so much energy and he can

7:13

barely sleep so he can't rejuvenate himself.

7:16

And he's obviously he went through

7:18

all the the advantages of

7:20

the medical system. And he said it was

7:22

good. It was efficient, but nothing worked.

7:24

None of treatments worked. You need to alleviate

7:27

the pain. While to solve the issue to

7:29

alleviate the pain to to fix what had

7:31

been damaged, he said he's

7:33

a spinal specialist. was

7:35

concerned that if he had any more

7:38

surgery than he'd already had, there

7:40

was a really strong chance that the nerve servers

7:42

would be damaged even further, and he would just be a

7:44

quadriplegic or not? No parriplegic. So

7:48

total paralysis blow the waste. He

7:51

spent months in physiotherapy. No

7:53

change. Just pain twenty four hours.

7:55

Chiropractic didn't work. He even tried yoga.

7:59

None of it helped. And ultimately,

8:02

the solution was his doctors just prescribed

8:05

larger and larger doses of opiates.

8:08

to dull the constant pain. It was just you

8:10

had to try and dull it to do anything.

8:12

And obviously, that's a danger in

8:14

itself. Opiates are highly addictive

8:16

as we know, but he's saying back then,

8:19

like, he was eighteen years old at the time and

8:21

this is, like, nearly thirty years ago now.

8:23

The The understanding

8:26

of how bad these pain killers are

8:28

in terms of addiction wasn't really widely understood.

8:30

But you know what, he's also facing? He's facing

8:33

a paranormal danger here because there's two

8:35

factors that we've only been talking about recently, particularly

8:38

in reference to Spirit Position, for example,

8:40

one, heavy amounts of

8:42

of pain can cause psychological trauma,

8:45

which weakens you, or

8:47

heavy amounts of opiates also according

8:49

to some sources claims that that weakens you

8:51

to, you know, being vulnerable to spirit possession.

8:53

Well, it weakens your energy field. Yeah. Your energy

8:56

field is what protects you from spirits. that's

8:58

we've heard from our other research. So

9:00

anyway, he's eighteen years old. He's walking with

9:03

a cane, but he's just

9:05

going between extremes of

9:07

pain from this spinal damage and

9:10

extreme fogginess from

9:12

the the morphine that he's on. So he's just

9:14

in a a Hughes. He's just completely

9:17

in a days all the time. And this is

9:19

obviously miserable. This is a miserable state

9:21

of affairs. And it lasts

9:23

until he's midway through his undergraduate studies.

9:25

So amazingly, he got through high school

9:27

and he got accepted into university. And

9:30

he's like, I don't even know how it happened. I was so

9:32

drugged out most of the time. I don't even know how

9:35

got accepted. He couldn't

9:37

drive. He slurred his

9:39

words all the time. But the only

9:41

thing that kind of kept in going was that he

9:43

loved learning. He loved going to

9:45

university. The stimulation

9:48

of his mind was really all he lived for.

9:50

He did an undergraduate in humanities,

9:53

and he was able to try psychology

9:55

and philosophy. He said he did

9:58

also Latin and religious studies.

10:00

And he said at this university, he

10:02

went to the Department of Religion, it

10:05

had courses on death

10:07

and dying magic and the

10:09

occult and ancient myths and

10:11

semiotics. And

10:13

it seemed to be they had just

10:16

nearly started offering these things.

10:18

They had never offered these things in the past, and

10:20

it was like a bit of a change in that department

10:22

and all these new courses popped up.

10:24

and he was fascinated by them. And he

10:26

said, on a whim, he signed

10:28

up for magic in the occult. And

10:31

when I say, on a whim, it's not like he was

10:33

particularly interested in these things. He had a

10:35

like, maybe a curiosity. But

10:38

he basically needed an elective and

10:40

this one just had happen to fit in his timetable

10:43

and he's like, oh, it sounds kinda interesting. I'll

10:45

do this. I need something to do. So he

10:47

signs up for magic in the occult and he said, The

10:49

instructor, the professor, was actually very,

10:52

very good, very knowledgeable. He

10:54

had really interesting discussions with this guy

10:56

about the history of magic, about the ancient

10:58

world, the mechanics of spells,

11:00

demonology, are ceremonies

11:03

and ritual. And

11:05

as the middle of the term got closer,

11:08

This professor reminded this

11:10

class that there wasn't going

11:12

to be a final exam. But

11:14

instead, everyone everyone would

11:16

have to do a research project. Now

11:19

Arthur, he decides to do his essay

11:22

on the concept of Blackmagic in antiquity.

11:25

And he says that the reason he wanted

11:27

to do this is just because he loved

11:29

the Conan movies with Arnold Sorternega.

11:31

You're right. And the whole, you know, the

11:33

whole ancient Miss Sorter of motif

11:35

in the aesthetic he just love that stuff.

11:37

He's like, this will be cool. You know?

11:40

So he spends a few days in

11:42

the university library, and he starts

11:44

digging into different texts. And he says it was strange.

11:46

This is the first thing that's odd. Is

11:49

the this particular university had

11:51

tons of texts on

11:54

necromancy, black magic,

11:56

curses, demons, all this material.

11:59

And he thinks back on entities like,

12:02

That was a surprisingly good

12:04

collection of a cult literature for this

12:06

this university. You never names the university.

12:09

But he assumes after thinking

12:11

about it that there there must have been members of

12:14

the faculty who were a cult practitioners.

12:16

Yep. Is why would you have that much cult material?

12:18

Exactly. Or someone at the library was a

12:20

cult practitioner, and they they had all these

12:22

books in there. They placed all these books in there. I was

12:24

through some weird serendipity perhaps he

12:27

went to, you know, a college that had it donated

12:29

to them. It was like a collection -- Yeah. -- donated. That

12:31

bit possibly happened. bit weird though.

12:33

Anyway, he says, One day, he's going

12:36

through this French monograph on

12:38

Roman Necromancer and he says French. He later

12:40

explains French was his first language. And

12:43

it comes across this particular ceremony

12:45

that's designed to placate the phonic

12:47

gods, remember the gods from the underworld in

12:49

exchange for favors. And

12:51

it's a very typically

12:54

Latin idea that there's

12:56

a term for do this, which

12:58

means I give I

13:00

give so that the deity will give,

13:02

so that you, the deity will give, it's an exchange.

13:05

Is it kinda like selling your soul to the devil? That's

13:07

probably where the term comes from. That's where the saying

13:09

comes from. So the ceremony is really

13:11

complex. And it seems to you

13:13

based on this sonic ritual where

13:17

a ditches dug so that

13:19

black colored animals can be sacrificed

13:21

and have their blood flow down into

13:23

the earth. I remember

13:25

that's come up in some of our previous

13:28

research with ancient cultures, how

13:30

that remember there was this city.

13:32

I can't remember where it was, but it's

13:34

like thousands years ago, there's a city. And in their

13:36

central section

13:39

in the city, there was a giant pit

13:41

where they basically did sacrifices. Was

13:43

that the one with that through a whole heap of cats in?

13:46

Probably. Yeah. Probably. Then eventually

13:48

people and everything else. But this is the idea. They

13:50

dig this ditch and then sacrifice the

13:52

animals, the whole point is that the blood flows into

13:54

the earth. And there's like a demon or a

13:57

god that consumes it, similar

13:59

to what the Aztecs were doing and

14:01

again, blood. I would say, note that because

14:03

that's gonna come up in a story I've got coming up

14:05

in plots. Well, when he's reading it,

14:08

he fills this strange sense

14:10

He doesn't know what this thought comes from, but

14:13

he has this idea that

14:15

what he's reading isn't just superstition.

14:18

And he starts to explain the rationale

14:20

of this because obviously the ancient

14:23

people weren't stupid. You just have to look

14:25

at their achievements. to understand this.

14:27

Look at what they built, look at what they constructed. And

14:30

also magical ceremonies in in the

14:32

ancient past were incredibly costly

14:34

to perform. like,

14:36

sacrificing a bunch of horses would

14:38

be like burning your car on fire,

14:40

like setting your car alight to the gods. Mhmm.

14:43

And they

14:44

they would repeatedly spend large amounts

14:46

of resources and money on these practices.

14:49

And why would they keep doing it if it generated

14:51

no results? And he says in all of

14:53

the ancient cultures, magicians were professionals

14:55

too. They had clientele that and

14:57

they were just as respectable as a doctor or

14:59

a lawyer. And

15:01

With

15:01

this in mind, he started

15:04

us to find himself contemplating the

15:06

possibility of trying

15:09

Some of these rituals dedicated

15:11

to the Sonic Gods Oh. -- how foolish,

15:14

how irresponsible. Well, is he wanting

15:16

extra, like, credit? Well, he he's

15:18

saying, look, it's not

15:20

that I believed in magic. He said, I

15:23

I was in the the kind of pain

15:25

that you can't even describe. Like, you gotta

15:27

desperate. Yeah. You gotta put yourself in this guy's

15:30

frame of mind. He's in

15:32

a sense of pain that you can only

15:34

describe as transformative. Like, everything

15:37

around him, everything he experiences his

15:39

entire experience of the

15:41

world is through this red haze

15:43

of constant pain. And

15:47

he adds that through the different courses he was

15:49

doing and all the research he was doing. He

15:52

kept on hearing these instructions, these professors,

15:55

discussing magic as an actual

15:57

force, the could be studied,

15:59

could be tested, and it had a real tangible effect

16:01

on the world. But they didn't sugarcoat

16:04

it either with the research he was

16:06

doing and what the professors were saying, they

16:09

all pointed out that

16:11

magic was a force that tended to

16:13

scar the people who used it.

16:14

Oh, so there is a warning on it. There's always

16:17

a cost. And he said,

16:19

those who contact the spirit world tended

16:22

to be sick or damaged individuals.

16:24

And he said there's a body of research behind

16:26

this. It's got an academic name.

16:28

It's called the Shamanic illness. And

16:31

he says, this is because most cultures

16:33

that have shamans. believe that

16:35

the spirits contact the potential shaman.

16:38

Usually during some kind of sickness,

16:40

they're on the the edge of death or there's

16:42

some kind of accident where they nearly lose their

16:44

life, and we know this from the stories we've covered,

16:47

the there's great tribulations that are faced

16:49

before a shaman kind of gains his power.

16:52

that's part of the tradition no matter where you look in

16:54

the world. Mhmm. And since he had

16:56

exhausted all conventional medical

16:58

options to resolve his pain, he's like

17:01

Well, this is what I'm going through. Like, I'm

17:03

on this maybe I'm on this Shamanic path. I'm

17:05

going through this horrible transformative illness

17:08

and pain. I'm not constantly on the edge of death.

17:11

So he starts to do his research and

17:14

he had taken Latin so he knew

17:16

a bunch of Latin and he essentially reconstructs

17:19

the basic ritual that

17:22

would put him in touch with the demoness,

17:24

the the ghost gods of the Roman Netherlands.

17:28

And he he thought, okay, this is probably the direction

17:30

I need to go in. I I can contact these Roman

17:32

ghosts of the Netherlands, because

17:34

he said I knew for a fact I had Roman

17:36

ancestry. And in theory,

17:38

he says that his ancestors must have

17:40

sacrificed to these entities for centuries.

17:42

So there's some kind of familiarity there.

17:45

There's a blood line there. And

17:48

he thought, I'll just approach these entities

17:51

for help. What's the worst that could

17:53

happen? mean,

17:55

you're right. I mean, I'm shaking my head, but I guess

17:57

if you are going through so much trauma

17:59

and medicine has failed, you and

18:02

you are desperate, I guess you'd be doing anything

18:04

you can. It's like yeah.

18:06

So he said I understand that

18:08

magic involves a trade.

18:10

So he said I was prepared to offer

18:12

the virtually whatever they asked for.

18:15

So along comes the night for the ritual, he's got

18:17

everything set up. He doesn't all Ditch doesn't.

18:19

All prepared. Well, no. I'll explain that. It's all

18:21

prepared very carefully. The ritual

18:23

text is all in Latin. He's

18:27

he's relayed to John Gager's

18:29

cursed tablets and binding spells for

18:31

some of the passages, so he's kind of

18:34

pulling from existing sources. He

18:36

he's got an altar. It's got off brings of

18:38

wine, water, bread, and other gifts.

18:40

And he does his research, and these are things

18:43

that a Roman, theonic

18:45

entity would probably want. and

18:47

he didn't have a funeral pit

18:50

to pour blood into. So

18:52

he has this big glass bowl

18:55

that will receive the offerings. And

18:57

he's even kid it out. He's

18:59

wearing a full toga and

19:02

he's got a hood on because he knows from his research

19:04

that you have to cover your head to show

19:06

humility to the deities. So

19:09

he begins this ritual in the dark. He's

19:11

got candles lit. He's got

19:13

just enough light to see the text. And

19:16

the house is pretty warm. It was, you

19:18

know, like the the beginning of fall.

19:21

And he starts reciting this litany

19:23

in Latin. And

19:25

he starts pouring the offerings of the

19:27

wine, in the water, then he adds the bread.

19:30

and then using a knife, he cuts

19:32

his left hand and he allows his

19:34

own blood to trickle down his fingers

19:36

and into this glass cauldron. And

19:39

he says this act was

19:41

perhaps the most significant thing he'd ever done

19:44

in his life. Because

19:46

immediately, as the blood hit

19:48

this receptacle. Things

19:51

started to change in the room. He

19:53

said the temperature immediately dropped.

19:55

Very sharply, the candles all

19:57

start to dim. The flames,

19:59

he said, it was strange. The flames didn't flicker.

20:02

It wasn't wind. It's like they just

20:05

drop it in energy. They would yeah. Like,

20:07

there would someone turn down a knob.

20:09

And

20:10

they became so weak

20:12

that the dark like the darkness in

20:14

the room got stronger, rather than

20:16

the candles losing brightness, the darkness

20:18

got stronger and started to feel oppressive, and

20:21

suddenly he's aware that

20:23

he's not alone. He can feel

20:25

the presence of multiple spirits

20:27

in the room with him, and he

20:29

says they did not feel friendly. Now,

20:32

he had assumed that since he was

20:34

drawing on ancestral gods and

20:37

freely offering his own blood,

20:39

that whatever showed up would be friendly.

20:42

And I'm just, why

20:44

why would you think of that? Yeah. Why would you make that assumption?

20:47

He says stupidly, I had not imagined

20:49

that whatever whatever

20:51

had come through would be malevolent

20:53

or just angry at being disturbed. Then

20:57

something unimaginable happens. The

20:59

the giant glass bowl he's got

21:01

explodes. and

21:04

shards of glass I'm

21:06

assuming, shards of glass and

21:08

water and wine and bread and bees

21:10

blood just goes flying around

21:12

the room in this big explosion. He

21:14

says it didn't crack. It's all like it cracking

21:16

and fell apart. It literally detonated

21:19

into tiny glass fragments And he's

21:21

like, that's when I felt real tremendous

21:24

fear because I didn't know what to do.

21:26

And he says suddenly it became hard to

21:29

breathe as if some force is crushing

21:31

his chest and his

21:33

careful preparation of, oh,

21:35

Dominic Dominic, like reading the lesson,

21:38

that's out the window. And now he's

21:40

like, Jesus, please help me. Jesus, fuck out. Jesus.

21:42

Yeah. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god. Jesus, please

21:44

help me. He's just praying in

21:47

in his native French for these spirits

21:49

to forgive him. For

21:51

disturbing it, they're slumber. But isn't it

21:53

a steiner that said that French was like a

21:55

destructive language, it will bring you about spiritual

21:58

death. Yes. That's

22:00

just making it worse.

22:03

And he's afraid to move the entire

22:06

flaws in darkness. There's got lots

22:09

of glass everywhere. And

22:11

he's like this, like just praying

22:13

out loud for fifteen minutes

22:16

as this, wow, this presence,

22:18

this is just overbearing,

22:20

crushing his chest. It just feels

22:22

darker and darker and slowly. Thankfully,

22:26

it starts to fade. The

22:28

room becomes warmer. The the candles

22:31

regain their brightness. And

22:33

finally, he feels like it's safe enough

22:35

to limp across the room and turn the lights on.

22:38

And, of course, he cuts his feet and it's, you know,

22:40

it's gross grossing a

22:42

mess. But he cleans everything

22:44

up and immediately regrets trying this ritual

22:48

and promises himself, okay, this is

22:50

just purely academic now. I'm never

22:52

dabbling in this again. That's it.

22:54

Too

22:56

late. Too nights later, he has this

22:59

incredible lucid dream. Like,

23:01

it's not even a dream. He's somewhere

23:03

else. He says it's so unique, I'll never

23:06

forget it. He suddenly finds

23:08

himself on a mountain in this really

23:10

strange place. It's mostly

23:13

desert. He says, the colors are all

23:15

wrong though. It's like an alien planet.

23:18

The sky and the sand, they're all hues

23:20

of red and orange, it it

23:22

just doesn't look like earth. And

23:24

there's a sense of hostility towards

23:27

life. that just hangs

23:29

in the air. It's hard to explain, he says,

23:31

but it's like a general hostility. And

23:34

he didn't really pay much attention to the surroundings

23:36

though because in front of them in

23:38

front of him, is this gigantic

23:41

pulsing black energy mass?

23:44

Just this throbbing kind of wall wall.

23:46

Does it have a shape to it? Or is this in a morph It's

23:49

like in a morph for sometimes it's a cube,

23:51

sometimes it's a blob. It

23:53

occasionally ripples with color. Like,

23:56

you know how you see oil, have

23:58

those rainbow sheens on it Yes. --

24:00

like that. And

24:02

this black walk this throbbing gross

24:05

alien blob

24:08

starts talking to him. telepathically.

24:10

It's beaming thoughts and words into

24:12

his head. And he says, look, I can't

24:15

go into detail. Like, I'm forbidden.

24:18

But in essence, it said that

24:20

his ritual had gotten this thing's attention

24:23

and that it had decided to bring

24:25

him there to its realm to its

24:28

world. And this day,

24:30

he telepathically gives him

24:32

a choice. First, it said

24:34

that he could return to his normal life.

24:36

and it could go on as if this

24:38

never happened, take the blue pill, basically.

24:42

But the problem was He

24:44

would still be in the same continued pain

24:46

and misery. Fastening, it should give

24:48

him a choice though. It's like that whole idea of

24:51

inviting entities in. It's like he has to

24:53

do it voluntarily. Yeah. Humans

24:55

have to agree to what they get.

24:58

And the

25:01

alternative, his other choice, is

25:03

that this entity, this horrible

25:05

pulsing blob, alien blob thing on

25:07

another planet, can fix him.

25:10

It can stitch his damaged spine back

25:12

together. It can devour

25:14

the trauma and completely heal

25:17

him, but it will do much more than this.

25:20

It's going to send him it says on a

25:22

different path than his

25:24

original fate, where

25:26

he'll live an incredible life. he'll

25:29

travel to interesting places. He'll learn

25:31

to do strange powerful things. And

25:33

he'll have a generally powerful fulfilling

25:37

interesting life. In

25:39

return, he has

25:41

to serve as a messenger

25:43

of this entity in our world, carrying

25:46

its essence with him Almost

25:50

as if it's like a virus, like it's running

25:52

through his damaged tissues. It's in

25:54

his body. It's a part of him. That's the deal.

25:57

His own agenda's ambitions would come

25:59

second to this because nothing in life

26:01

is free. He would be a

26:04

servant to this entity.

26:06

Now, he doesn't even blink.

26:08

He doesn't even think. He's

26:10

just slight. Yep. Yep.

26:13

Sounds

26:13

good to me. Doesn't

26:14

even consider it for a second.

26:17

Let's do it. He's Is there a part

26:19

of the contract that he hasn't read? Because normally,

26:21

it's more than just like what it he sounds

26:23

here being a messenger, what what the

26:25

long term? What happens when he passes from this

26:27

plane every hour? Well, again, the pain in the trauma

26:30

has so much hold on

26:32

his life and his psyche that

26:34

the idea of going back to that is

26:36

not something that he can conceive of. It's

26:39

it's almost like an obvious choice that

26:41

he would take this deal. and

26:43

probably the entity knows that he would

26:45

never say no to this deal. You also have to

26:47

wonder though if this is some type of I mean, we're

26:49

only recently talking about Karma. Is this some

26:51

type of challenge. Is this some type of

26:54

test? Yeah.

26:55

And then if he says, no, III don't

26:57

want to become a messenger for you that then he

27:00

would have greater rewards. But obviously, he

27:02

can't get past that. No. I don't think it's that. It's definitely

27:04

not that. No. No. It's it's definitely

27:06

demonic. It's upsetting him up to take this

27:08

deal because he immediately accepts And

27:11

as soon as he accepts, he feels this

27:13

energy pouring into him,

27:15

he says it feels like ice water in

27:17

his veins and he feels the

27:19

essence of this thing crawling

27:21

into his spine. He says it felt

27:24

almost like the steroid injections he

27:26

would get from doctors, but he

27:28

feels it working its way up

27:30

in between the cracked vertebrae in

27:33

his spine. And he said he just

27:35

started to scream because it was the most

27:37

intense pain, and this guy knows pain.

27:39

It's the most intense pain he's ever

27:41

experienced and he's and

27:44

then he wakes up in his bed. Still in

27:46

pain? Well, he says,

27:48

look, I'll keep this bit short because,

27:50

you know, he doesn't wanna it's like

27:52

he doesn't wanna reveal too much, but he's been

27:54

commanded to reveal it. he says,

27:56

within a week, the pain

27:59

in his spine is completely gone.

28:01

Within two weeks, he throws

28:03

out his cane. He doesn't need it to walk anymore.

28:06

within a month, he doesn't

28:08

need any medication. All his medication is

28:10

in the bin. He's completely off it.

28:12

He's complete one hundred percent

28:15

healthy. Any doctors

28:17

have no explanation for it.

28:19

They're calling it a miracle case. They're

28:22

saying it must have been misdiagnosed or

28:24

the scans. We're wrong. We can't explain this.

28:27

And as you can rightly imagine, it's it

28:29

is, I guess, it's what you would call a

28:31

miracle. And

28:33

and He

28:34

says, look, it it would be exciting for me

28:36

to say that, you know, I started

28:38

to receive all this razor sharp no

28:41

Nosis from this entity. I started to leave

28:43

all this instruction. But he says, that's

28:45

not how it worked. He

28:47

claims this thing communicated with him

28:50

through nudges. Intuitions.

28:53

A lot of unusual synchronicity, like,

28:56

you know, like books falling off the shelves that he

28:58

should read or running into people for certain

29:00

reasons. So no direct communication, no

29:02

telepathy, your thoughts, voices. Well,

29:04

it did eventually talk to him directly.

29:07

When he was ready, it allowed him to

29:09

know that it was Saturn, the Black

29:11

cube, the Lord of Time. That's

29:14

the entity he had made this pact with.

29:17

It did never seem to give him any work.

29:20

But it did force him to undergraduate

29:22

school and eventually into a doctorate program

29:25

in mythology. He claims he went to an ivy

29:27

league school. he said he he

29:29

says he's been studying the various cults of satin

29:32

in his many

29:34

cultural guises and manifestations ever

29:36

since. And it's interesting he

29:38

says it hasn't been a solitary road

29:40

because along the way he's been guided

29:43

to meet certain people who

29:45

he studied under. So he claims

29:48

this entity has directed him to people

29:50

who are also under its mission,

29:53

I guess. And he says

29:55

each of them was so deeply devoted

29:58

to this deity to satan.

29:59

But

30:00

he says some of them were public

30:02

figures and you would be shocked if

30:05

you found out who they were. No. That wouldn't

30:07

be, to be honest. It's like if that

30:09

way, if his, like, part of his deal was

30:11

to be a messenger. I mean, it's kind

30:13

of worked right because we've just told his

30:15

story. Now where messages I

30:18

don't wanna be a messenger. The dark alien

30:20

blob Lord. No.

30:22

We we might be warning against the message. You

30:24

never know. That's right. Well, we could be advocating Warning.

30:26

Eyeboarding. You have to listen all the way to the end and

30:28

sign up for plus to find out if

30:30

we're advocating or denying.

30:33

We'll leave it ambiguous at the moment. if we're

30:35

disavowing or advocating. So

30:37

twenty

30:38

five years later, he says, the

30:41

deity held up its part of the agreement.

30:44

He's led an incredible life, traveled the

30:46

world. You know, he knows people

30:48

in circles of power, you

30:50

wouldn't believe. and he lives

30:52

this life of privacy and comfort

30:54

and wealth. And he says,

30:57

that was all going fine until

30:59

this last year. He says the day

31:01

as he sat in has now made it clear

31:03

to me that it is finally time

31:06

to write.

31:07

And He

31:08

says, look, I don't like writing about the occult, and

31:10

he explains that it doesn't feel right

31:13

to share your secrets and insights

31:15

that you've worked so hard to accumulate

31:18

and just give it out freely to strangers.

31:21

You know, it's two decades

31:23

of work. You have to suffer and travel and

31:25

go through great hardship to figure these things

31:28

out. You made a deal with a demon? Yeah.

31:30

Doesn't sound like much hardship does it? No.

31:32

You just signed on the dotted line. But

31:35

more importantly, he says, these practices, this

31:37

knowledge, it's all deeply personal. He says

31:39

to me, it's sacred. And much

31:42

of it is beyond conceptualization. So he says

31:44

any kind of way to try

31:46

and write it down. It's

31:49

bound to fail like it'll be misunderstood. And

31:51

he says he didn't really want that to happen at all.

31:53

And if it was up to him, he just wouldn't

31:56

write book at all. He would never do it. But

31:58

as he said, he

32:01

says some decisions aren't mine to make.

32:03

He's driven

32:05

by this entity. So what

32:07

kind of entity is saturn? And

32:10

obviously, I'm not gonna explore an entire

32:12

magical grimoire for you because it's It's

32:14

full of weird stuff, but not

32:16

that that's ever stopped us before, but it's just not

32:18

generally something I wanna wanna share with people.

32:22

But we will have a look at

32:24

the nature of this alien blob

32:27

entity that you -- Yes. -- made a

32:29

deal tube. So he starts going

32:31

into the medieval Islamic

32:33

cosmology for answers, and

32:35

the Arabic word for the satan

32:37

deity is Zuhal. which means

32:40

the one who is far away or

32:42

the alien. The satanic

32:45

deity, he says, becomes the campaign of

32:47

the desperate, the greedy, the rebel,

32:49

and the vengeance driven. The

32:51

oldest of the primary text considered in

32:54

what is studying is the words of

32:56

Ivan Wash Yar's

32:58

treaties, the Navitan Agriculture. And,

33:02

yeah, again, this is an old medieval Arabic

33:04

text. And this author

33:06

washer writes, beware

33:09

the evil of this god when he

33:11

is angered or to the west of the

33:13

sun or vailed in its rays in the middle

33:15

of its return. pray to him

33:18

this prayer which we have just given here.

33:21

While you were praying this prayer, give a burnt

33:23

offering to his idol consisting

33:25

of old hides grease,

33:27

strips of leather, and dead bats.

33:31

Burn for him fourteen dead

33:33

bats and an equal amount of rats.

33:36

Then take their ashes and prostrate yourself

33:38

on them in front of his idol. Pestrate

33:41

yourself to him in the form of

33:44

a black stone on black sand

33:46

and seek refuge from him against his

33:49

evil because oh my brethren and

33:51

beloved ones he is the cause

33:53

of the perishing of all the perishes.

33:56

The cause of decay of all that

33:58

decays. The cause of petition

33:59

of all that is destroyed.

34:02

The cause of sorrow of

34:04

all the sorrowful ones and the weeping

34:06

of all the weeping ones, he is the

34:08

lord of evil and sin and

34:10

filth and dirt and poverty. Oh,

34:14

that what a great deity to make

34:16

a deal with. Sign here. It'll

34:19

be fine. Yeah. It's

34:20

just get rid of your pain.

34:22

Sounds like a good deal.

34:24

So finally,

34:25

he says if you pray to him or pray

34:27

to him so that you might escape his evil.

34:31

And obviously, there's more

34:34

cult references that are similar

34:36

to this. He mentions this cult book

34:38

called The Picatrix. where Satan's

34:40

power is cold, stinky, he's

34:43

associated with misfortune, betrayal,

34:45

viciousness, terror, separates

34:49

and scares. He's involved

34:51

with depression, grudge, cunning,

34:55

negativity, old age, fatigue,

34:58

sadness, death, you

35:00

get you get the idea. And

35:03

later on, very much later

35:05

on, he says because he's discusses all these

35:07

cultures like he goes into the Hindu mythology

35:10

of Saturn. He talks about the Greek mythology

35:13

of Saturn. And in

35:15

all of these cultures, he says

35:17

satin's physical presence, his

35:19

idol, is a black

35:21

stone, a black cube, or an obelisk.

35:24

And the current idol, of

35:26

Saani at one of his most prominent

35:29

temples continues to be the black stone

35:31

even now. The carbon itself, which

35:33

is the stone mecca. was

35:36

originally an icon of the time deity

35:38

of Saturn. It's another prominent example

35:41

of the black cube. He says

35:43

it is significant that the black stone at the

35:45

heart of the harbor is said to be black iron,

35:47

fallen from the stars, which according

35:49

to Islamic law, makes it

35:51

satin or satin esque by definition.

35:54

The cube represents the maiming and constraining

35:57

of Saturn and the prison the

35:59

prison dimension tartarus to

36:01

which the deity is confined. And

36:03

that is it's interesting because that's a continued

36:05

theme throughout all cultures that this

36:08

great god was killed

36:10

by another god, sometimes his son,

36:13

sometimes a relative, sometimes

36:15

just another god, but cast

36:17

away. sent away into

36:20

the darkest depths because tartarus is

36:23

like the very lowest level

36:25

of the Greek underworld. Right. It's

36:27

like the hell of hells. And

36:30

it's considered in some cult

36:32

circles, it's considered like a prison dimension

36:35

where

36:35

where

36:36

The most powerful enemies are sent

36:38

because that you can

36:40

get no access to it. Once you sent there,

36:43

you can never escape. Does it have similarities

36:45

to God casting out, Lucifer? Is

36:47

it the same kind of thing?

36:49

You know, I haven't actually looked at that. I'm not

36:51

sure if it's from the same mythology.

36:54

But yeah, it's obviously connected in

36:56

some way perhaps. And

36:58

and again, he says the black cube appears in

37:00

contemporary art, in media projects.

37:03

It's often a symbol of alien menace.

37:05

He talks about Clive Barker's hell riser

37:07

cubes, the Leviathan deity itself.

37:10

Even a Google search for black cube, he says,

37:12

shows an extensive list of corporations that

37:15

use the black cube as a symbol. And you'll

37:17

see this if you do search You want me

37:19

to search a black cube. You just see all these,

37:21

you know, corporate plazas where they got

37:23

a giant black cube. And this of

37:25

course has led to all these conspiracies. that

37:29

the black cube phenomenon is

37:31

like a subtle tip

37:33

of the hat

37:34

to

37:35

this cult of satin.

37:37

that

37:38

has remained kind of secret

37:40

and in the shadows for

37:42

very very long time.

37:44

So

37:46

I wanted to dig into this further. I wanted to

37:48

dig into the whole black cube thing, the

37:51

the satin myth the

37:53

cult of satin. I wanted to see where this

37:55

goes. And I ended up grabbing

37:57

an old copy of David Talbott's

37:59

book from nineteen eighty, The Satin

38:01

Myth. And

38:04

again, he starts talking about this idea

38:06

that most of us, when we think about

38:09

the heavens, we think that it's

38:11

been the same again for our

38:13

ancestors. They look up in the sky and

38:15

they basically see what we see today. Yeah.

38:18

in primitive times. He had the sun, the moon, the

38:20

planets. They all appeared just as they do today.

38:23

But he says the evidence indicates that

38:25

within human memory, extraordinary

38:28

changes in the planetary have occurred.

38:30

In the earliest age recalled by man,

38:33

the planet satin, was the

38:35

most spectacular light in the heavens

38:38

and its impact on the ancient world

38:40

was overwhelming. In fact,

38:42

he says, Satan was the one

38:44

great god, invoked by

38:46

all mankind. The first

38:49

religious symbols were symbols of satan.

38:51

and it was so pervasive that the

38:54

planet god's influence made

38:56

the ancients see him as the creator,

38:58

the king of the world, and Adam

39:01

as the first man. Now

39:03

he mentions that there's hardly an

39:05

ancient tale that doesn't speak of

39:08

some kind of world destroying upheaval shifting

39:11

of cosmic orders. Like, world mythology is

39:14

full of this as we know. And Talbot

39:16

points out that, like, only a handful

39:18

of scholars in the past three hundred years have

39:20

tried to make a connection between these

39:23

myths to talk about these cataclysms and

39:25

actual real catastrophe, like something that

39:27

really happened. Like he mentions

39:30

William Weston from sixteen ninety

39:32

six who first argued

39:34

that the deluge resulted from a comet --

39:36

Oh, yeah. -- comet's cataclysm? Yep. No

39:38

one cared. No. No. No. Okay. In eighteen

39:41

eighty two and eighteen eighty three, Ignatius

39:43

Donnelly wrote two books, Atlantis and the

39:45

Antodaluvian world, and Ragnorok, the

39:47

age of fire, and gravel. He

39:50

claimed that a massive continent called Atlantis

39:53

once had, you know, the story and ancient amazing

39:55

civilization but sank beneath the sea.

39:58

And it was real it's based on a real history.

40:01

sold a bunch of copies, but obviously

40:03

no one cared. Like, didn't change any views

40:05

on history. And then he had Isaac

40:07

Vail around the turn of the century argued

40:09

in a bunch of academic papers that

40:12

myths of cosmic upheaval are related to

40:15

the collapse of ice bands that you surround

40:17

used to surround the planet, nolik had. Nineteen

40:19

thirteen, he had Hans Hallbigger who

40:21

wrote glacial cosmogeny.

40:25

And and basically, he argued

40:27

that the earth

40:29

captured another planet in ancient history

40:32

that became our moon. Oh, yes. Yeah.

40:34

Nobody can. And then he have Velekovsky

40:36

-- Mhmm. -- came comes along in nineteen

40:38

forty. And he first wondered

40:41

whether there was a cosmic disturbance

40:44

that accompanied the Hebrews leaving

40:47

Egypt, the great exodus. Yeah.

40:49

He thought it was a comment, didn't he? Well,

40:51

you know, he talked about massive plagues

40:53

and cyanide erupting and a pillar

40:55

of cloud fire moving through the sky.

40:58

And he started to investigate this. And basically,

41:00

Many of you will know Velocosophy, but but he

41:03

he did the survey of world mythology,

41:05

and he came to the conclusion that ancient

41:08

myths were a collective memory of some

41:10

celestial disorder. The

41:12

great gods he observed appear

41:15

explicitly as as planets. and in

41:17

the Titanic wars from Greek mythology,

41:21

the planets moved on erratic

41:23

courses, their orbit changed.

41:26

It's almost like they had battles with each

41:28

other in the sky. There was electrical

41:30

discharges between them that

41:32

would menace the earth as well. And

41:34

he wrote world's inclusion in nineteen

41:37

fifty proposing that

41:39

Venus and then Mars from

41:41

fifteen hundred to six eighty six

41:43

BC actually

41:46

disturbed the Earth's axis and caused

41:48

massive destruction. And a huge

41:50

seller like obviously, Velekovsky, hugely

41:52

popular, very controversial. He

41:55

actually got people to debate

41:57

the idea. which is a huge achievement.

41:59

People started to take note, but obviously,

42:02

as we know, it didn't change conventional understanding.

42:05

So Talbot says the reason he's mentioning

42:07

these authors and especially Velekovsky.

42:10

It's because it was Velekovsky who

42:13

directed him to Saturn. And

42:16

there's this manuscript, and I think

42:18

It was around nineteen eighty when Talbot

42:20

wrote this and at the time this wasn't

42:22

published. So I don't know if this eventually came out,

42:24

but there was this manuscript that

42:26

Valkovsky was working on that

42:29

satan was once the dominant

42:32

heavenly body. and he

42:34

identified satan's epic

42:36

with the golden age, with the legendary golden

42:39

age that almost all cultures speak of. So

42:41

by heavenly body, does he

42:43

mean more so than the moon or

42:45

closer than the moon? Like, it's --

42:48

Really? it's very close. like Saturn

42:50

is the biggest thing in the sky, basically.

42:53

So we could actually see it in the rings. Oh,

42:55

I don't know if it had rings back then. That goes

42:57

into a long story. So It's

43:00

the preeminent light in the heavens, but

43:02

that idea inspired Talbots

43:05

to start looking into this and

43:07

he expected to find maybe faint

43:10

echoes of Saturn or maybe nothing at

43:12

all in

43:14

in the ancient writings. you know,

43:16

looking back to the beginnings, he thought, you know, maybe there'll

43:19

be mention here and there. But when he actually started

43:21

to look into it, he said the ancients were

43:23

obsessed with satin, absolutely

43:27

obsessed with it. It was

43:29

by far the most worship,

43:31

the most written about, the most central

43:34

deity in almost every ancient

43:36

culture. And they were

43:38

obsessed later on in

43:40

ways thinking of ways to

43:42

relive satan's epic to bring

43:45

back the one great god

43:47

satan that was always satan. And

43:49

the most common symbols of antiquity are

43:52

solar emblems. Right? And we think of

43:54

them today as, okay, the ancients worship

43:56

the sun. They had all these emblems of the

43:58

this disc, this sun, and

44:01

a lot of the translations of that. It's like Helios

44:03

is the sun.

44:05

But He says a lot of this

44:08

came later. And when you actually

44:10

go to the original age of the myths,

44:13

They don't refer to the sun. They refer

44:15

to Saturn. They refer explicitly refer

44:18

to the planet Saturn. So why has

44:20

it changed? Why did we did history

44:22

messes up somehow. Well, because

44:24

later, people will look in the sky and go,

44:26

well, obviously, that they're not talking about

44:29

sun because it's just this tiny prick of

44:31

light up there in the sky, so they must have been talking

44:33

about, you know, the sun. So Helios

44:35

must mean the sun. Mhmm. They couldn't possibly

44:37

talk be talking about that a tiny pinprick of light.

44:40

So the

44:43

whole point he's saying is that it wasn't a pinprick

44:45

of light though. It was like the

44:47

biggest thing in the sky. And

44:50

he says if we are to believe the widespread

44:52

accounts of Saturn's age, the

44:54

planet God's home was the unmoving

44:57

celestial pole, the pivot

44:59

of the heavens, far removed from

45:01

the visible path of Saturn today. So

45:03

again, it's almost nothing to do, and it's

45:05

completely unrelated to where satan is today.

45:08

So he starts going into this mythology.

45:11

And one of the first kind

45:13

of

45:14

universal themes you see with satin

45:16

is this idea of the great father. Like,

45:19

anyone attempting to trace

45:21

the Saturn legend with the

45:24

primordial god figure he says. All

45:27

these different races call them the great the

45:29

great father. He said to

45:31

have first organized the heavens, founded

45:33

this kingdom of peace and plenty, the golden

45:35

age. And and he

45:38

says, these early astro religions

45:41

insisted that this planet god

45:43

was the all powerful ruler of

45:45

heaven. But again, today, You

45:48

assume it's the sun. Well, you would just who's

45:50

who can pick out satin in the sky? I

45:52

I don't know where it is. No. I mean, you can you can

45:55

see a bright player, but normally, isn't that Venus?

45:57

Or Yeah. It's like a bright star up there somewhere,

45:59

but how would it

46:01

how would it serve to create a mythology

46:04

that encompasses the entire world? unless

46:07

there was some type of, I don't know,

46:09

belief system at the time that had caught

46:11

on and had spread out. Maybe, is that

46:13

possible? No. There would have to be something that

46:15

everyone could see shortly back then. Yeah. That's

46:17

I mean, that's getting to the key of his argument.

46:20

But the paradox here

46:22

is that the ancient people also declare

46:25

that this god king satan

46:27

was the biggest thing

46:30

in the heavens, but also

46:32

resided on Earth as a great king.

46:35

He was the father both of gods and

46:37

men. There's this jewel character in Talbot

46:40

says it's been a debate for

46:42

centuries. Like, it's very confusing. like,

46:44

was he a living ancestor or was

46:46

he, like, this cosmic divinity? Like,

46:49

which one is it? Well, sometimes he's given human

46:52

proportions, but also he's this

46:54

giant thing in, like, in the sky, in the heavens

46:56

that people can see. So

46:59

he'd start to describe what the ancient myths

47:01

say. It's

47:04

all to do with a great god. So the

47:06

myths say that the god emerged alone

47:08

from the Cosmic Sea as a preeminent

47:10

power in the heavens. out of watery

47:13

chaos, he produced a new order.

47:15

The ancients worshipped him as the creator

47:17

and the supreme lord of the cosmos. Number

47:20

two, this solitary god according to

47:22

the legend founded a kingdom of unparalleled

47:25

splendor. He was the divine ancestor

47:27

of all earthly rulers his kingdom,

47:29

the prototype of the just and prosperous

47:31

realm. Throughout his reign, an unending

47:34

spring prevailed, the land produced

47:36

freely and men knew the labor nor

47:39

war. So golden age.

47:41

Number three, in the god king's towering form,

47:44

the ancients perceived the heaven

47:46

man. A primordial giant

47:48

whose body was the newly organized

47:50

cosmos. The legends

47:52

often present the figure as the first

47:54

man or the primordial man whose

47:57

history personified the struggle of

47:59

good and evil. And

48:01

four, widespread traditions pro proclaim

48:03

him to be the planet Saturn.

48:06

He's satan. So

48:08

the best material he says is the oldest.

48:10

To understand this, you gotta go to the oldest

48:12

stuff. He says, you gotta go to Egypt. you gotta

48:14

go to mesopotamia. What age

48:17

are we talking here? Three thousand? Roughly

48:19

years ago? Older. Okay? Older. What's like

48:22

seven thousand, six thousand, seven thousand, eight thousand

48:24

years, but now we know it's it's older with Quebecli

48:26

Tuppy. Well, that was twelve thousand, wasn't it? That's

48:28

twelve thousand. So you gotta go back really far

48:30

back. And the way

48:32

we think of monotheism today,

48:35

there's like an evolutionary understanding like

48:37

there is with everything. There's the idea

48:39

that human beings when

48:41

they're backwards, they're

48:43

uncivilized, they have multiple

48:46

gods. They have spirits

48:48

for everything. Right? They have this kind of pan,

48:50

theistic idea. And

48:53

as civilization develops, this

48:56

slowly evolves into monotheism.

48:58

So you have one god.

49:01

But Talbot says the there's no

49:03

evidence for this. like, this also

49:05

rests on the assumption that civilized

49:09

races of old had to pass

49:11

through primitive phases. But he says, actually,

49:14

There's not really evidence for this because

49:17

before the Hebrews, Greeks, or Hinduus developed

49:20

their monotheistic ideas of this

49:22

supreme God, they

49:25

must have possessed beliefs that

49:27

were similar to, like, African tribes or Australian

49:29

aborigines, but The

49:32

problem is there's there's no evidence of this,

49:34

the older you go back.

49:36

They always talk about this one god,

49:38

like Egypt and Mesopotamia, they

49:40

have this tradition of a great god

49:43

revealing like it goes back into prehistoric

49:45

times. So if you actually look at

49:47

the historical record, monotheism was

49:50

first. That was the first

49:52

thing that people believed in is this

49:54

one great thing. Well, that's interesting because you'd

49:56

expect if there were different cultures that they would

49:58

come up with their own gods. So

50:00

that's where your I can see this evolution where

50:02

you would go from, you know, polytheistic ideas

50:05

to the monotheistic. So that

50:07

that kind of makes sense. Unless,

50:09

there was something that was universally seen

50:11

in different culture. Unless there's one thing

50:14

that no one could ignore is, like,

50:16

right up in everyone's faces. So

50:19

Let's look to Egypt. They he talks about

50:21

Adam

50:22

and

50:23

the ancient Egyptian texts have

50:26

this this figure atom was a god

50:28

born in the abyss before the sky existed,

50:30

before the earth existed. He in

50:32

the pyramid text, the really ancient pyramid

50:34

text, he says, I came into being of myself

50:36

in the midst of the prime evil waters. In

50:39

the book of the dead, it states that Artem was

50:41

alone before he had repeated himself he

50:43

was alone in the prime evil waters. The

50:46

followers of our men proclaimed their

50:48

god, the ancient of heaven, father of the

50:50

gods, the splendid god who existed alone

50:53

in the beginning, so it's like this one singular

50:55

thing. And there's

50:57

different names of this primeval deity throughout

51:00

Egyptian God's like

51:02

as you progress through history, but it's

51:04

still the same entity. Yeah. The whole idea

51:06

is always the same. It's the god one,

51:08

the only one, the father of beginnings the

51:10

supreme lord, the singular god.

51:13

Does this become Rah? Yeah. This is eventually

51:15

Rah came out of this. Right? And

51:17

the important thing to note is

51:20

that everyone can see him. He's

51:22

literally there all the time. And

51:25

Talbot says, look, if you go into the ancient past

51:27

and you look for an unseen creator.

51:29

some kind of metaphysical acycal

51:32

influence. You'll be

51:34

disappointed because this god

51:36

is a visible concrete power.

51:39

He's a lord of terror, the great terror

51:41

they call him. The memory he says

51:43

of this solitary light god and creator

51:46

was as old as the most ancient Egyptian

51:48

ritual. So perhaps I'm I'm getting ahead

51:50

of you here, but you'll obviously explain it. The fact

51:53

that he was this god of terror does

51:55

that imply from, you know, more

51:57

kind of I don't know, was it

51:59

that satin was much closer to earth

52:01

and it was causing some type of environmental disruptions

52:04

because of gravitational field effects? Like, is

52:06

that what was being interpreted as an angry

52:08

terror god? Well, when they say terror, they

52:10

just mean powerful. Right. They don't mean that

52:12

it's necessarily more than cataclysm, evil,

52:15

or actually, it's

52:17

the opposite. he's causing the golden age.

52:19

Right. It's great powerful, which terror is

52:21

like powerful. But

52:23

again, this is the the theme is that the

52:25

this great god brought the golden age brought

52:27

to age where there's no suffering and med

52:30

lift for a thousand years and all that sort of stuff.

52:33

But the thing is this have obviously eventually

52:35

ended and the departure

52:38

of this great god, satan, brought

52:41

about great destruction, brought

52:44

about chaos. And so also

52:46

if you move to Mesopotamia, there's

52:48

this great research of Stephen Langdon.

52:50

He did this prolonged study

52:52

of submitted and Sumerian sources,

52:54

and he concluded that the veneration

52:56

of spirits and demons had nothing

52:58

to do with the origins of the Mesopotamian religion.

53:02

He wrote that both in Sumerian and Semitic

53:04

religions monotheism preceded

53:06

polytheism. It preceded any

53:08

belief in good and evil spirits. there was always

53:11

just this one giant thing that everyone

53:13

believed in. And he says if you look at

53:15

the pictographic tablets of the prehistoric

53:18

period, there's a picture of

53:20

a star that repeatedly appears. And

53:22

this song, this religious symbol,

53:26

it's it's a star symbol, but

53:28

it's also the ideogram for God,

53:30

high heaven, and bright. And

53:33

it's also the symbol for

53:35

Saturn. and it's a giant circle

53:38

with like an eye in the middle of it,

53:40

a big dot in the middle, this universal symbol.

53:42

And then you got Arne or Arne who came

53:44

later, the far other of the gods. Again, terrifying

53:47

splendor, the central light in

53:49

the in the universe. He

53:52

governed from his heaven, from his throne

53:54

in heaven in the cosmic see. And

53:56

then you go into Babylonian PATHION,

53:58

you've got ANCHIE and the

54:00

NURTER and all these evolutions of

54:02

the same God. But each

54:04

shares the same character, the oldest ruling

54:07

universal lord, that

54:09

emerged from a celestial ocean

54:11

giving radiating light in the heavens

54:13

and brought on a golden age.

54:15

And again, they

54:18

this god created created

54:21

the earth and the heavens. Right? So if

54:23

an ancient group of people could have seen

54:25

this thing being close in the heavens like satan

54:27

being close, what took

54:29

place to push it out of that

54:32

orbit, to that position? Well, this

54:34

is really important because What

54:38

he's saying is this is something that people experienced

54:40

and saw. This is something our ancestors

54:43

witnessed. And and when

54:45

the ancient myths say that

54:47

the god created the heavens, this

54:50

one god created the world. It's

54:53

it's this weird paradox because the ancient

54:55

texts write it as if

54:57

they were there watching it with their popcorn

54:59

and binoculars. Mhmm.

55:01

Like,

55:02

The pyramid texts say hearts

55:04

were pervaded with fear, hearts were pervaded

55:07

with terror when he was

55:09

born in the abyss. The

55:12

solitary god in the presence of the ancestors

55:14

brought forth the prime evil world

55:17

or earth.

55:18

And this

55:20

tradition, it it really

55:22

you've got to understand it in the way

55:24

that they're obviously not talking about

55:27

our earth. Because

55:29

if

55:30

there's people around to witness it, okay,

55:32

that doesn't make sense. Okay. It's

55:34

not the the old texts can't be talking

55:36

about our world and us.

55:39

It's talking they're talking about something that they

55:41

saw, something they saw in the sky, something

55:43

they saw in the heavens. He

55:46

says the subject of the original creation legend

55:49

is the formation of the great god's

55:51

visible dwelling above. Something

55:54

they saw. The legend records that

55:56

when the creator rose from the Cosmic Sea,

55:58

a great band or revolving island

56:01

congealed around the god

56:03

as his home. The band

56:06

appeared as a well defined, organized,

56:09

geometrically unified dwelling,

56:12

a celestial land fashioned

56:14

by the great father. And all

56:16

space outside this enclosure belonged

56:19

to unorganized chaos. And

56:22

he says, like, the words in

56:25

ancient languages that are denoted to

56:27

heaven, cosmos world land Earth,

56:29

Netherlands. In their original

56:31

sense, these words meant the

56:34

same thing, a band of light which

56:36

appeared to set apart the sacred ground

56:38

of the great god from the rest of space.

56:41

What could that be? So the great god, it sounds

56:43

like a heavenly body and they've explicitly

56:46

say that it satan in these texts.

56:49

But there's some kind of celestial

56:51

phenomenon that the ancients driving.

56:54

They're describing like a belt or

56:56

a band, and they're describing

56:58

that the God is coming out of

57:01

the ether, like it's coming out of this ocean,

57:03

so it you get the sense of

57:05

some kind of energy in the sky?

57:07

Well, it's a gas giant, isn't it? So if something

57:10

hit it or struck it, perhaps with enough

57:12

force, it could cause it to seem like an ocean, it

57:14

could force something out. Yeah. And

57:16

then it gets into this idea of the universal

57:18

monarch.

57:20

So this cosmic figure, all the older

57:22

races, call it the creator god, the supreme

57:24

god. Again, he

57:27

reigns over the golden age. and

57:29

he governs over the entire

57:31

world becoming the model of a good king.

57:33

Every terrestrial ruler receives

57:36

his charisma and authority he's

57:38

the divine predecessor.

57:40

So this

57:42

isn't really interesting because ancient people

57:44

trace their ancestry to this god.

57:46

But again, it's like it's

57:48

paradox. Like, if it's a god

57:51

in the sky in the heavens, how is it

57:53

also a monarch that

57:55

rules on the earth. So

57:58

Osiris, for example, the ruler who led

57:59

the Egyptians out of barbarianism

58:03

and Reigned as the king of the entire

58:05

world. Who was that? Who was anky?

58:07

Who the ancient Sumerians revered as a universal

58:10

lord and the founder of religion? And he

58:12

starts going through all the different cultures,

58:14

and we know many of these names, like we know Ketsuguadil

58:17

from the Mexicans, we know the Hinduars

58:19

have Yama, the Greeks have Kronos,

58:22

the Chinese have Wong d. And

58:24

it goes through all these other examples from

58:27

North American tribes as well. And

58:30

this universal monarch idea

58:33

forms the first chapter of chronicles of

58:35

kingship no matter what culture you

58:37

look at, and this

58:40

theme emerges that in the original age

58:42

of cosmic harmony. The

58:44

gods dwelled on Earth. And presiding

58:46

over the epic of peace was the universal

58:48

monarch. He founded temples and

58:51

cities, taught humanity the Prince of

58:53

agriculture law, writing music, and

58:55

other civilized arts. This

58:57

golden age ended though

58:59

with the god king's catastrophic death.

59:02

And

59:03

again, this ruling on Earth while

59:06

being a God in heaven,

59:08

how did the ancients come up with this paradox,

59:11

like, what does it actually mean? This is really confusing.

59:14

So he starts going through the

59:16

age of Kronos, and this is, like, the

59:18

the Greek legends, this mysterious era

59:20

of Kronos where he's

59:23

the creator god. But in

59:25

the old tradition of Kronos, that

59:29

there's deathless gods who dwell on Olympus

59:31

made of a golden race of mortal men.

59:34

They live like gods without sorrow of heart.

59:36

They're They're free from toil and

59:39

grief, and the earth is fruitful, and the

59:41

land has many good things and everything's blessed.

59:43

And you see the same story with the Egyptian They

59:46

talk about this paraleasal age, this

59:48

peaceful airpock under Kronos, but

59:50

it's like different title. Eventually, it becomes

59:52

Ra or Osiris. But

59:55

in each tale, no matter where you look in

59:57

the world, whether it's China because eventually

59:59

Huangdi lost his kingdom

1:00:01

and the empire fell into destruction,

1:00:04

you look at the Greek mythology.

1:00:06

The story is the structure.

1:00:08

The story is the same. Yeah. Eventually, the God

1:00:10

is murdered. And this brings

1:00:12

worldwide destruction. Doesn't matter where

1:00:14

you go, like you go to Chaudhaya, he's got examples

1:00:17

there, he's got the Babylonian examples

1:00:19

of Anke and his wife, that there's pure

1:00:21

paradise than it's destruction after

1:00:23

they've they've gotten rid of. And it's

1:00:25

all over the world. Ketsugawadil,

1:00:28

India, has Bramba, Iran has

1:00:30

Yima.

1:00:32

And in

1:00:33

each in each description

1:00:36

of this heavenly king, this

1:00:38

heaven man. Like even if

1:00:40

you go into Adam, he starts talking about Adam.

1:00:43

Like according to Hebrew legends, Adam

1:00:45

Stacia was so great that he extended

1:00:47

from Earth to the center of heaven. His

1:00:50

countenance obscured the sun.

1:00:52

Adam was lord on earth to rule and

1:00:54

control it. The myths

1:00:56

say that the The

1:00:59

the people took him to be their creator and they

1:01:01

all came to offer him adoration. But

1:01:03

in the gnostic and mystic texts, Adam

1:01:06

is not a mortal. He's a cosmic being.

1:01:09

Whose body contains the seed of

1:01:11

all later creation. He's a man of light.

1:01:13

occupying the center of the cosmos, radiating

1:01:16

energy along the axis of the universe. He's

1:01:18

the creator and supporter of the world,

1:01:20

his body encloses all elements

1:01:23

of life. It's

1:01:24

actually

1:01:25

not talking about a man. It's like a

1:01:27

heavenly prototype of him.

1:01:30

And the

1:01:31

modern day man

1:01:34

Mandayans of Iraq, no Adam as the king

1:01:36

of the universe. the personification

1:01:38

of a spiritual man. And he goes

1:01:41

through all these examples like Hindu Yammer

1:01:43

and Manu and all these examples of the symbolic

1:01:45

man. And

1:01:48

his body essentially forms

1:01:51

a circle of lesser gods.

1:01:54

So again, there's this idea of a circle

1:01:56

forming with all these other

1:01:58

gods, and sometimes the gods are called his

1:02:00

arms or his legs. But

1:02:03

again, no matter which culture you look

1:02:05

at, you're getting this symbol, you're

1:02:07

getting picture of a giant

1:02:10

god in the sky. the band

1:02:12

around it. With a band with a circle around

1:02:14

it, and this god

1:02:16

was killed and this celestial order

1:02:19

collapsed. And again, you

1:02:22

could see it. Like, everything, if you

1:02:24

dig into its roots, he claims it's about

1:02:26

seeing something. So even if you look, you know, how

1:02:29

like the word of God is the creation, like

1:02:31

God speaks and the

1:02:33

the world is created. This

1:02:36

this idea is in a lot of cultures,

1:02:38

but the root meaning of the Greek and Hebrew

1:02:41

of Word actually means

1:02:43

visible speech. And

1:02:46

there's similar ideas in in Chinese history

1:02:48

as well. There's

1:02:50

this philosophical idea

1:02:53

in ancient history that And

1:02:55

this is from John Allegro, another researcher

1:02:58

who says, the creative word of

1:03:00

God originally wasn't an abstract motion.

1:03:02

You could actually see it. You could see the

1:03:04

word of God. So in the Hebrew

1:03:07

Creation Legend, the speech

1:03:09

of the creator is poured out a

1:03:11

spittle or or seed. You can see it.

1:03:13

It's the spurting out is

1:03:15

is associated with thunder

1:03:17

and shrieking wind. It's like a phenomenon that

1:03:19

can be observed. And in most

1:03:22

Christian legends, he points out in Egyptian and

1:03:24

some area as well. This great

1:03:26

father of this god in the sky has these

1:03:28

life bearing rays, and his

1:03:30

word, his voice, all

1:03:33

appear as powers that are seen

1:03:35

and heard. So again,

1:03:37

it's not It's not a metaphysical

1:03:40

thing. It's not a it's not just an

1:03:42

idea. No. It's it's very much

1:03:44

physical and and further to what I said little bit

1:03:46

earlier there, with the suggestion of it being, you

1:03:48

know, terror, but you're right, maybe it's not terror, maybe

1:03:50

it's power. But if it's a celestial body

1:03:52

that large and that close, surely

1:03:55

it would be having a significant impact upon

1:03:58

Earth, which will be witnessed by people. And

1:04:00

again, if you go back and it goes back

1:04:02

through all these cultures in each great god

1:04:05

they're all talking about. It always

1:04:07

goes back to satan.

1:04:09

It always goes back to the gods satan

1:04:11

in in various different ways. like

1:04:13

he talks about the Latin poet Ovid,

1:04:15

who spoke about the first millennium was the age

1:04:18

of gold to the golden age. Then

1:04:20

living creatures trusted one another, People

1:04:22

did well without the thought of ill,

1:04:24

but then overrights. Old

1:04:27

satin fell to death's dark

1:04:29

country.

1:04:31

It's always saddened that

1:04:33

and and if this was a if this

1:04:36

was about a religion that worshipped the

1:04:38

sun, It

1:04:41

does doesn't make sense. It doesn't like,

1:04:43

this is this weird paradox. And again,

1:04:45

like, people have obviously other researchers have

1:04:47

noted this through history. But

1:04:49

they've always just gone hard. Isn't that interesting

1:04:51

that an ancient cult revolved around satin

1:04:54

when it's just this weird light in the sky,

1:04:56

like this tiny little prick of light.

1:04:58

But to enhance his argument, wouldn't there

1:05:00

be some I mean, I noticed that you said there

1:05:03

before that, you know, there was a lot of obsession

1:05:05

in the ancient world with Saturn. But

1:05:07

is there any type of astronomical

1:05:10

evidence that some type of event took

1:05:12

place? Is it recorded somewhere that there was

1:05:14

massive explosion in the sky by a a different

1:05:16

cultural Like, what's happened for this thing

1:05:18

to leave? Everything I'm saying to you is

1:05:20

the record. It's the recording. Right. Every

1:05:22

every myth is the description of what happened.

1:05:25

But they personified it as a god. Yeah.

1:05:28

Yeah. This is just well, it was their

1:05:30

god. Like, if it's the the biggest thing

1:05:32

in the sky, the most incredible thing that you

1:05:34

can see every day you wake up. And

1:05:37

again, he goes through all, like, the Hindu

1:05:40

king of the world was Satya Vrata,

1:05:42

satan. the Canonites, the Hebrews,

1:05:45

they had corresponding with the Samiri

1:05:47

of Babylonian Ahn, their god

1:05:49

satan. Yima, the Iranian

1:05:51

transcript of the Hindu Yamah, God of

1:05:54

the Golden Age, was Saturn. The

1:05:56

Zoran's new Saturn as the heaven

1:05:58

sustaining Zirvan, the king and lord

1:06:00

of the long dominion. The Chinese

1:06:02

Huangdi, mythical founder of the Dow's religion,

1:06:05

is acknowledged to be Satan, even

1:06:08

the Tahitians talk of

1:06:10

Fetotayya, which is Saturn

1:06:13

and that he was the one king. Can't

1:06:17

why? It's so bizarre. So

1:06:20

let me give you the myth in a nutshell. In

1:06:23

the earliest age recalled by the ancients,

1:06:25

the planet, or protoplanet,

1:06:29

came forth from the cosmic sea to dominion

1:06:31

over the prime evil cosmos. This

1:06:33

planet god ruled as the solitary

1:06:36

central light, worshiped as

1:06:38

the god one, the only god in the

1:06:40

beginning. Saturn's epic

1:06:43

left a memory of such impact that later

1:06:45

generations are esteemed

1:06:47

to the god as the universal monarch,

1:06:50

the Ideal King, and

1:06:52

throughout satan's era of cosmic harmony,

1:06:55

no seasonal vicitudes threatened men.

1:06:57

They had no seasons. the temperature

1:07:00

was universal, the entire world. Everything

1:07:02

grew all the time. There was no hunger, no starvation.

1:07:04

There was no labor, no war. It was like a

1:07:06

perfect paradise. Now

1:07:09

that let's just stop for a moment and think about that.

1:07:11

What would cause a

1:07:14

universal temperature around

1:07:16

the entire earth, if not,

1:07:18

a different sun. Yeah.

1:07:21

Good point. A different sun or some type of

1:07:24

possible influence of

1:07:26

another heavenly body. In the

1:07:28

creation, satan, the primal

1:07:30

seed, ejected the fiery

1:07:32

material which congealed into

1:07:34

a circle of lesser lights the cosmos

1:07:37

this is referred to. The myths

1:07:39

describe this resounding birth of the

1:07:41

secondary gods as satins speech

1:07:44

as the word, the voice of heaven.

1:07:46

The ancients conceived satan as the visible

1:07:49

intelligence bringing forth the cosmos

1:07:51

as his own body and regulating its revolutions.

1:07:54

Thus, was the planet denominated as

1:07:56

the heaven man, as Adam as the primordial

1:07:59

perfect man. and eventually

1:08:02

thought of as our ancestor. When

1:08:04

satan departed the world and

1:08:07

it's different depending on which mythology were the

1:08:09

Zeus killing his dad or Zeus

1:08:11

attacking the Titans. Once

1:08:14

the Saturn is deposed, the golden

1:08:16

age catastrophically ends. So

1:08:19

if the Earth is under the influence of

1:08:21

a different heavenly body, And

1:08:23

it's creating this perfect environment of even

1:08:25

temperature that the quality of the light is

1:08:27

different. Things grow in a different way.

1:08:30

And suddenly, that's gone.

1:08:33

And where now under the influence of a different

1:08:35

heavenly body, it would

1:08:37

create chaos, everything that

1:08:39

grew naturally under the

1:08:41

light of that other heavenly

1:08:44

body, now the will. Their environmental

1:08:46

conditions changed. It's like completely changes.

1:08:50

So This is remembered as catastrophes

1:08:53

by the people that witnessed it. This

1:08:55

is the first universal tale of a dying

1:08:57

god the overthrown first king,

1:08:59

the fallen first man.

1:09:02

And the

1:09:04

result is the same, a corruption of nature,

1:09:06

progressive worsening of the human condition.

1:09:08

And Talbot

1:09:10

says this story, one

1:09:12

could say, is perhaps the

1:09:15

only theme of tragedy and drama in antiquity.

1:09:17

It's like this universal theme. And

1:09:20

each culture refers to it as

1:09:23

satin. Saturn's golden age came

1:09:25

to a sudden and catastrophic end, either

1:09:27

caused by or accompanied by the fall

1:09:29

of the great god. Following this, is there

1:09:31

any connection to flood myths? Yeah. The

1:09:33

floodbeds is is a big part of it, which I'll

1:09:35

get to in a moment. But

1:09:37

again, yeah, how can this be reconciled?

1:09:40

How can this be explained? So

1:09:43

again, saturn is the speck of light in the sky.

1:09:46

Could a tiny speck of light really be responsible

1:09:49

for driving All the these

1:09:51

myths of world mythology, could it

1:09:53

really be behind it? This tiny little

1:09:55

prick in the sky? This tiny little prick. It

1:09:58

doesn't make sense. It would

1:10:01

only make sense if our ancient skies

1:10:03

were different if the cosmic order

1:10:05

was very very different.

1:10:08

And that's what we're gonna talk about after

1:10:10

the break in our plus extension. Because

1:10:12

obviously, if any of

1:10:14

this is true, if any of the mythology

1:10:17

of the ancient is to make sense if they

1:10:19

really are describing things that they're

1:10:21

seeing. We have to be able

1:10:23

to understand How

1:10:25

it took place? Yes. How

1:10:28

If if the ancient world was different

1:10:30

to the cosmos we see today, How

1:10:33

did we get here to where we are today? How

1:10:35

did we go from the one god

1:10:37

which everyone says is satan? How

1:10:40

did it end all the way about there?

1:10:42

And also, what type of event could have

1:10:44

possibly have taken place, which is

1:10:46

powerful enough to move a planetary body

1:10:48

as far away as it is but not affect

1:10:51

the earth severely and wipe us out. What

1:10:53

kind of explosive powerful event could

1:10:55

take place that has that ability and notice

1:10:57

in like the myths again, to go

1:10:59

back to Zeus taking

1:11:01

on Kronos and sending him down

1:11:03

to Titus. Titus is

1:11:06

is a prison. It's a prison dimension. Yes.

1:11:08

It's the furthest away you

1:11:10

can get from our world. And

1:11:14

it's the opposite of Elysium,

1:11:16

which is, you know, the heavens. And

1:11:20

it's the idea of Kronos satin

1:11:23

being cast out sent

1:11:25

far far away -- Oh, wow. Yes. It

1:11:27

is. -- locked away in a prison. And

1:11:30

when we look up in the skies today, we're a satin

1:11:32

compared to the Earth. It's way far out.

1:11:34

Yeah. Let's look at the orbits way

1:11:36

far out. like it's being cast away,

1:11:38

like it's been imprisoned in the

1:11:41

furthest reaches of our solar

1:11:43

system. like

1:11:44

tartarus.

1:11:46

So we're gonna

1:11:47

investigate that when we come back

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for our plus extension after the break, and

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we're also going to discover

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what actually happened to

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the cult of the Black cube and

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Arthur Morris. Okay. What

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happened to this guy? He wrote this interesting

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book. He wrote this grimoire. He told

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us his story of making this deal

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with a giant scrubbing.

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like cube. Black is The wall of

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goo on an alien planet. He

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made a deal with it. What happened to the

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guy? Did he write a follow-up?

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Did he get his message out? Is he still out

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there today? What does his Twitter account look like?

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There's lots of pictures of black cubes? That's

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all it is. Blackvue. He's

1:12:31

selling blackvue. Maybe he's the one

1:12:33

that's promoting all those conspiracy theories that

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