This episode was recorded in a van beside a road in London with performer and actor, Griffyn Gilligan.

We talked about children.. about what it is like to raise a small one, what it’s like to teach not-so-small-ones and about our experiences of being children.  Also about the moments when we stop being children and become something else..

And we talked about Paw Patrol…

Griffyn Gilligan is a performer and actor, theatre maker, writer, sound artist, and sometimes-director.  So far, this year has also found him doing a lot of stage managing and gardening for his supper. Griffyn's work (and play) centres around gender, science, sexuality, and dissonance. He is a founding member of the ensemble Ponyboy Curtis and has an MA in Advanced Theatre Practice from RCSSD. 

And you can keep up to date with Emma's movements through the None of Us is Yet a Robot project at www.notyetarobot.co.uk or @elbfrankland on twitter.

Opening music was by Visitors and Closing music by… Paw Patrol!

Some things we mentioned in the conversation were:

Paw Patrol

Cubs and Brownies 

Ponyboy Curtis

The Yard Theatre

Blue’s Clues

UK Age of Consent

Nina Simone Mississippi

TransActing Workshops

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