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Hey, it's Allan, and I just wanted to
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let you know that you can now listen to the ongoing
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history of new music early and add free
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on Amazon music, included with
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Prime. Like Homer Simpson, I
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love my TV. Without
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my local channels, my networks,
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cable access, on demand and
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streaming shows, none of us would have made
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it through the pandemic. The
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downside is that in order to remain
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distracted and entertained, I became
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oversubscribed. Mixed with
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my perpetual fear of missing out, I've
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ended up paying for more cable channels
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than I need and I'm subscribing to
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streaming services I don't even watch.
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I'm just too lazy to go through my credit
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card statements, find the offending charges, and
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then go through the hassle of calling customer
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service and cancelling my subscription. Note
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to self, you you gotta do that. But
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I've been a TV junkie since I was a kid.
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And one of the things that's always fascinated
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me are TV theme songs.
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Some are bespoke compositions commissioned
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specifically for a show, others
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are formally standalone songs that
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have been licensed for a program. In
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both cases, being the writer of a theme
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song can be extraordinarily lucrative
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is especially if the show is a hit and
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goes into syndication. Every
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time the theme you wrote gets played on
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TV, broadcast, or streamed, anywhere
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in the world you get paid every
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single time. And
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since you're having your song played as
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part of TV show, you're constantly
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advertising its existence and
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your existence to the world. If
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you're lucky, it'll blow up into something much
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bigger. And although that doesn't
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happen much anymore, your label might
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decide to release your TV theme as
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a single. And if it becomes a hit,
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wow. What I'd
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like to do is look at the history
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of some of these TV themes focusing
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on rock bands who have made some very
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good money sometimes and
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sometimes very insane money from
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somehow ending up being associated
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with
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television. This could
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very well alter the way you listen to TV
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from now on. This
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is the ongoing history of new music
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podcast with Alpros.
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Shataway men on a shadowy planet, an indie
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band that originally was from Calgary, and
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got into Toronto in nineteen eighty four.
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In nineteen eighty eight, they released
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an album called savvy showstoppers, which
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contained this surf rock like song,
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entitled having an average weekend. On
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the original Vinyl version, it was tucked
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right at the end of side two, so pretty obscure.
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But then an improv comedy group
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from Toronto called The Kids in The Hall
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ended up with show on the CBC, and
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they asked the shadowy man if they could use
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this instrumental as their theme.
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Two guys in the band grew up with kids member Bruce
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McCullum. He would occasionally tap
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the men if the troop needed some music
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for their live performances in clubs. Having
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an average weekend, the band's first ever seven
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inch single, was used a lot.
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So when it came time for the kids to move to
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TV, it only made sense to bring that
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de facto theme song with them. Great.
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The song was licensed and the band was paid
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royalties. Once more
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people started hearing the song via TV,
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having an average weekend became something of
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hit which boosted the band's fortunes. Enough
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money came in that they were able to quit their day jobs
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and go into music full time. They
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did that until nineteen ninety six before they broke
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up. But the money from the kids theme
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still comes in. Hello, again.
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I'm Ellen Cross, and I have more stories like
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that for this show. If you're
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developing a TV program and it
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doesn't matter if it's for network, cable,
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or streaming. One of the things you
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need to consider is a theme song. A
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catchy musical thing that will
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grab the viewer's attention and become forever
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associated with the program. These
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catchy bits of intro and extra music
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are as old as television itself. There
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are two ways you can do this. First,
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you can get someone to write something brand
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new. Or you can repurpose
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something that you found somewhere else.
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We'll cover both on this program. Take
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the case of Larry David, When he was developing
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Seinfeld with Jerry, a guy
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named Jonathan Wolf was contracted
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to come up with some appropriately quirky
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music. Now, Wolf knew
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about music and TV having worked on seventy
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five different shows. Wolf
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realized that TV themes had become
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stale and boring. So, he
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started searching for a sound and approach.
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That would sound fresh and distinctive. He
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began by listening to hours and hours of Jerry
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Seinfeld stand up, and he discovered
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that Jerry has a particular rhythm
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to his delivery running at about
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one hundred and ten beats per minute. Using
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a preset on a Korg m one
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synthesizer, out of base guitar is a lot
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of people think. Wolf created
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this, which runs at, around
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a hundred and ten BPM. That's
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easily one of the most familiar
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TV themes of all time. Slap
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base sounds were still brand new in the show debuted.
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And the beat boxing rhythm track really
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made it stand out. NBC
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hated it and wanted it upgraded. But
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Larry David stood firm saying that he liked
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the theme's annoying qualities, which is
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something Larry David would probably say. And it
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was a good call. Now
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fast forward to curbier enthusiasm, which
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also has a piece of music that can be annoying
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to some. Its official name is
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frolic, a once super obscure
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piece of music dating to nineteen seventy.
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It was written by an Italian composer named
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Luciano Macholini, for a movie
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called La Bessolima estate. Frolic
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didn't do anything for decades outside of
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being used in a few European TV
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commercial and in an Italian TV series
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that nobody remembers. Larry
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first heard the song in a commercial for a Los
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Angeles bank around the time he was developing
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curbed for HBO. When
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the show became a hit, frolic blew
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up. Somewhere, Luciano
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Michelini, who as far as I know
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still hasn't met Larry in person, loves
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getting the royalty checks in the mail. Okay.
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Hold on back up. We we need to cover some television
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history. In the old days, which
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really wasn't that long ago, TV
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shows have theme songs written for them.
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We had this, And
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this Boy no way
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Glen Miller played. And
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this. Some
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TV theme songs went on to become hit
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records on top forty radio. Like
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this instrumental piece by Mike Post that
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opened the Rockford files. Or
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even the greatest American hero,
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It was a giant top forty smash in nineteen
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eighty one. And
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this is the TV theme that rock my
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world when I was a kid. I
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learned much later that the composer was
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a guy named Neil Hefti, a jazz trumpet
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player for Woody Hermann's Big Band, and
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a collaborator with Duke Ellington, Count Bassy,
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and Frank Sinatra. By the nineteen
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sixties, he was deeply involved in TV
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and movie work. When he was asked to write
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the theme for Batman, he must
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have just dashed that off in a couple of minutes.
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I mean, it's really just a standard twelve bar blues
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thing with some horns and an eight member
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vocal corps singing Batman eleven
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times. Since nineteen sixty
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six, that theme has been parody
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thousands of times and released
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as legitimate singles by other artists.
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Here, for example, is the jam
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doing a version. The
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Batman theme, originally by Trumpator
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Neil Hefti, who made good money each
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time that song was played. He also wrote
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the theme for the odd couple TV show,
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by the way. Today though,
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things are much different. Why write
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a theme song when you can just license
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something really cool from an indie artist?
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The game changer was in nineteen ninety seven.
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When David Chase was looking for some appropriate
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music for the opening sequence of his new HBO
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series about a New Jersey gangster. That's
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when he heard a track by an English group
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called Alabama three that had been released
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earlier that year on a record entitled exile
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on Cold Harbour Lane. It had been released
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as a single and received a little airplane, an
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alternative in campus radio, but it wasn't
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anything that you would call a hit, not even close.
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But Chase thought it was perfect.
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The song had menace and hinted
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of violence. The song
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was written by Alabama frontman Rob
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Sprague after reading about a nineteen eighty nine
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English murder case involving a woman who stabbed
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her husband to death after being abused
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for two years. She was first sentenced
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to jail and then later freed upon appeal.
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At first, Chase wanted to use a different
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theme song for every episode of the show.
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But that was a licensing nightmare. Best just
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settle on one song and be done with it.
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From what I understand, Alabama three
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received a flat forty thousand dollars
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for the song. Hey, listen, it seemed
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like a good idea at the time. Who would have guessed
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that the show would have become one of the most
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praised TV productions of all
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times? When you woke
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up and Alabama
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three or a three as they're known in
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the US for legal reasons. With woke
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up this morning, a song they sold to the Sopranos
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for about forty grand in nineteen ninety seven.
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And this, for better or worse, was
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the real beginning of shows on
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premium television using indie
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songs for their themes. Here's another
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example. The refreshments were
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a post Grunge ban from Tempe, Arizona,
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who scored a one hit wonder in nineteen ninety six
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with a song called Banditos, from
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their debut album, Fizzy, Fuzzy, Big and Busy.
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Things weren't going well until it came time for
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their second album. That's when their
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record label lost all enthusiasm for
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the band. There were internal problems,
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guitarist Brian Blush had substance abuse
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issues, and they were basically cast
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adrift, breaking up in nineteen ninety eight.
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Just before that happened though, Mike
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Judge and Greg Daniels and a new
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adult animation show for Fox in development
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called King of the Hill, and they put
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on a casting call to indie bands who might want
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to submit something for consideration for the theme
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song. The refreshments were
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on tour in San Francisco when they got a call from
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their manager. It was suggested that they enter
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a track called Yahoo! And triangles
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that they often play during Soundcheck. The
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band figured, alright, why not? And
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at a gig in Wichita, Kansas, they
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told their audience what was happening. At
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the end of this instrumental they said from the stage,
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whoop and holler like you're having good time at a
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Texas barbecue. The performance
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in the hallow ring was recorded and a tape
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was sent off to Fox. Two
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weeks later, Fox called and asked
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them to come to LA and record for the TV
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show, and we've been hearing it ever since.
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Here's where things get kinda sad.
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The refreshments got the king of the hill gig
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on a work for higher bases, meaning
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that they recorded the song for Fox
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and Fox ended up owning Yahoo!
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And triangles. They received
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a one time buyout and that was it.
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The refreshments do not get any further cash
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from that theme. The group still exists
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under the name Roger Klein and the peacemakers. And
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when guitarist Brian Blush left the band,
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his share of the song was bought out
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for twenty five hundred dollars. Let's
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go through a few more acts who managed to snag
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a TV theme song gig. Do you watch
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Shameless with William h Macy? The
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opening song is called The Luck You Gout
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by a Detroit Garage Band called The High
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Strung. That song was plucked from their two
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thousand six album Moxie Bravo. True
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blood starts with bad things by
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Jayce Everett. He released the song in two
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thousand five. If you remember
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HBO's Hung, The block keys
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did the theme, as long as I'll be your man.
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We have true detective, which begins
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with far from any road, a two thousand
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three track by the handsome family. It was
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on a record called singing bones. And
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here's a good one. The Brian Jonestown
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massacre was a band that had been
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around for a long, long time, but never seemed to
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catch any kind of a break. They were formed
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in nineteen eighty eight and had gone
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through dozens of members over the course of more
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than a dozen albums. Lots of indie
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cred but not much in terms of financial success.
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Then Martin Scorsese decided
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to get into TV. He
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wanted to do a gangster film set
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in Atlantic City during prohibition. He
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got together with series creator Terence Winter,
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a guy who worked as an executive producer and
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writer on the Sopranos. After
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combing through lots and lots of records,
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He went through the Brian Jones town massacre's
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discography. He'd always been a fan
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apparently. And when he reached their nineteen
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ninety six album to take it from the man, He
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was immediately attracted to track
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six from the record, which he
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says created a feeling of the unexpected.
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A deal was done, and the Brian
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Jones down Master got their big break
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using a song that was more than fourteen years
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old. It's called straight up and down
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and the series of course is worldwide
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impact. More
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stories of TV theme songs coming up.
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Welcome back. We're going through some stories behind some
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familiar TV theme songs. That were either
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composed for or licensed to shows
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that we all know. It can sometimes
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take years for a song to end up being
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resurrected for television. In nineteen
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seventy one, Harry Nielsen, an American
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songwriter and good drinking and drug taken
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buddy of John Lennon, released
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an album entitled, Nielsen Schmeelsohn.
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At the time, he was considered to be one of rock's
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top songwriters. He had top ten
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singles, a Grammy Award, and lots
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and lots of money. Which he spent on
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booze and drugs. His
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biggest single came from this particular
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record. It was a cover of a song
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where British band bad finger called
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without you. And the
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b side of the seven inch single featured an
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album track called Gotta Give Up.
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The song came and went as did Harry
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who died of a heart attack in nineteen ninety three.
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However, the album, Nielsen Schmillsen,
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lived on in the hearts of those who loved
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early seventies rock. That
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apparently included actress Natasha
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Leon who was working with Amy Poehler few
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others on this new mystery comedy show for
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Netflix called Russian Doll. Now,
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if you remember the show Nadia, played
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by Natasha, repeatedly dies
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at a party, only to be reincarnated
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to exactly the same time and place.
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And every time she returns, gotta
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give up is playing at the party. Russian
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doll debuted on February first twenty nineteen,
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and people immediately began
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searching out that song. Streams
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went through the roof resulting in nice
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payday for the Nielsen estate. Meanwhile,
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the producers of Russian Doll played the song
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so many times that had pretty much destroyed
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their musical budget. It
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also limited the number of times Nadia could be
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reincarnated because Nielsen's estate
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said that the song could only be used so many
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times. Let
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me ask you this. Is there a time anywhere
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on the planet where an episode of
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the Big Bang Theory is not running?
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There were two hundred seventy nine episodes,
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more than enough keep the show in syndication
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for years. And few
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people are happier about this than the Bear Naked
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Ladies. They, of course, wrote and formed
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the theme song for the show. Couple of facts
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about that. First, it does have
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a title. It's called the History
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of Everything. Second,
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the band didn't think they had a chance of getting
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the gig in the first place. They had been asked
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to write for movies and television before, but nothing
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had ever really worked out. In
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two thousand seven, the band's manager brought
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them another opportunity. Take this
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conference call. He told the group said Robertson,
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Ed's reaction was, yeah, well, you know,
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we're we're we're busy touring. I can't be
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bothered. The subject came up
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with Ed's wife, Natalie. Who's the call
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with she asked? Oh, some guy named Chuck Lohrey.
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She immediately recognized the name. I
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think he better Google him. So
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Ed did and, oh, wow.
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Okay. This this guy is a player. I
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I better pay attention. It
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turns out that Lori was a fan of the Bear
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Naked Ladies and wanted them and only
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them to write a nerdy song for
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a TV show about a bunch of nerds. When
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Ed realized what they were being offered, he
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then had to convince the other guys in the band
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and they weren't all that interested. They
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were living all over North America time and the idea
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getting back together for a quick piece of music wasn't
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all that appealing. Drummer Tyler
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Stewart was especially reluctant. Finally
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though, Ed convinced him. Tyler's reaction
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was and I quote, I won't do
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it, but this had better be the next
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effing seinfeld. The
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song itself came to Ed in a five minute
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shower. He got out, put
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on a bathing suit, recorded himself singing
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into his laptop using just the built in mic
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and emailed it away. Laurie
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got back to him immediately with just
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one note. Can you end it with a
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phrase? It all started with a big bang?
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Sure. No problem. Two versions were
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recorded, a band version, and an acoustic
19:17
one. And when the show debuted in September two
19:19
thousand seven, everything was in place.
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And the song is a lot longer than what we hear on
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TV. Here is the full version
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of the history of everything, the official
19:29
theme song to the
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big bang for it. The ocean's adventure
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to see you wouldn't gotta be a set
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motion by the same big bang. It
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all started with the biggest bang
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is standing ever out.
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One more thing about the Bear Naked Ladies Big Bang
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Theory theme song. Ex Bear
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Naked Lady Steven Page filed
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a lawsuit over the song in twenty fifteen,
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claiming that he'd been promised twenty percent of
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the proceeds. Something must have
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been quietly settled because Page later ended
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up performing live with the band a few times.
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There can be a lot of money in TV themes
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especially if the show lasts a long
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time. And some of the highest earning themes
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come from late night TV shows and
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game shows. For example, Johnny
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Carson asked Canadian Paul Anchor
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to come up with something for his new program called
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The Tonight Show. Paul
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Ankega paid four hundred dollars
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each time that got played. And the Tonight Show
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ended up running for almost thirty years,
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four and five nights a week, with
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ANCA earning close to a million dollars
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annually. Merf
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Griffin composed the music for both Wheel
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of Fortune and Jeopardy. The opening
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themes have changed But the most
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enduring is the piece called THINK,
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which runs for above thirty seconds when the players
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are putting down their answers in final jeopardy.
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Merve Griffin originally wrote that for his
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five year old son in nineteen sixty three
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to help the kid fall asleep. So yeah, it
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started out as a lullaby. The arrangement
21:10
has been altered and updated a number
21:12
of times over the decades, but it's still essentially
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the same. Of
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course, Murphy Griffin got royalties
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from that. His estate has
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banked close to a hundred million
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dollars from the Jeopardy Think
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Music. And although
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Alan Thick was known mainly as an actor,
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he also wrote TV theme songs. He
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wrote the themes for growing pains, different
21:52
strokes, and the facts of life. He also
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wrote four game shows, The Joker's Wild
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celebrity sweepstakes, and the original
21:59
theme for Wheel of Fortune. There's
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Walter Murphy, As part of a TV
22:04
commercial project in nineteen seventy six,
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he created a disqualified version of Beethoven's
22:09
fifth symphony. It was released under the
22:11
title a fifth of Beethoven. Back
22:25
got the ball rolling and offers to write for TV
22:27
and film King pouring in. His
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best known theme these days is
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probably the opening for family
22:34
guy. And then there's Danny
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Elfman He's written music for over a hundred
22:38
movies and TV shows, including a bunch
22:40
of Batman movies, men in black, good
22:42
will hunting, desperate housewives. And,
22:44
of course, the opening theme for
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The Simpsons. Over more than
22:49
seven fifty episodes of the show, he
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has made a fortune. His net worth is
22:53
around fifty million dollars. That
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theme has to be one of the most
22:57
recognizable in the entire universe
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now. And remember the time Green
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Day recorded a version for a Simpsons movie back
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in two thousand seven, and it all the way
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up to number seven on the Billboard Hot one hundred
23:08
charts. Green
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Day earning Danny Altman just a little
23:21
bit more for his Simpsons theme.
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We're not done yet. Stories behind more
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TV themes in just a sec. Let's
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go through a few more notable songs that ended
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up being associated with TV shows. They
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might be giants, made some good cash,
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with the song boss of me, which was
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the theme for Malcolm in the middle, that ran
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for seven years. It was originally written for
23:42
a radio contest with a different course before it was
23:44
picked up for the show. In two thousand
23:46
two, they want a Grammy for best song written
23:48
for a motion picture or television.
23:51
It remains their biggest hit. John
23:53
Macrae of Cake managed to recycle
23:55
his song short, long jackets
23:58
several times. It first appeared on a
24:00
two thousand one album entitled Comfort Eagle,
24:02
And then for five seasons, it was the theme for the
24:04
spoofy spy series Chuck on NBC,
24:07
and it can also be heard in a number of
24:09
movies and at least one Apple commercial. In
24:13
two thousand four, the Von Bondi's,
24:15
the Detroit band, who was a fierce rival of the
24:17
white stripes in the early days, Release
24:19
their one commercially successful single
24:21
on an album entitled, pawnshop Heart.
24:24
Denis Leary chose that song for his
24:26
FX series Rescue Me. It
24:28
ran for ninety three episodes over seven seasons.
24:31
And then there was the Lock Jane's addiction head
24:33
with the HBO series on to Raj. For
24:36
eight seasons and ninety six episodes, each
24:38
show opened with a track for the band's two thousand
24:40
three album Strace. It was never
24:42
a single But because of its inclusion
24:45
in the opening sequence, it became a fan favorite.
24:47
It's called superhero. Here
25:04
are a couple more proper songs that ended up
25:06
as TV themes. The Danny Warhols,
25:09
earned a little extra coin when their two thousand
25:11
three song we used to be friends was
25:13
picked up as the theme for the series Veronica
25:15
Mars. Remember the band Remi
25:17
Zero? They had moment in the early two thousands,
25:20
and their song Save Me was used for the series
25:22
SmallVille. Washed out
25:24
the blissed out electronic band and
25:26
their song feel it all around used for the
25:28
Kerry Brownstein, Fred Armisen series, Portlandia.
25:32
If you're fan of peaky blisters, you'll
25:34
know the menacing song that opens each episode.
25:36
That's a nineteen ninety four track by Nick Cave
25:39
in the bad seeds called red right hand.
25:41
If you're a fan of Nick, you'll know that that's
25:43
probably his most popular song. After
25:46
that song started being used in peaky blinders,
25:48
the song reached a whole new audience. In fact,
25:51
it became so popular that it was re released
25:53
as a single in twenty fourteen and
25:55
has been covered by everyone from the Arctic Monkeys
25:57
to Snoop Dog. And still
25:59
in the UK, I want to finish with something that
26:01
might be a little under the radar for some people.
26:05
In December nineteen ninety four, Oasis
26:07
released a CD single for whatever, a
26:09
standalone song that fell between the release of
26:11
definitely maybe and the watch the story
26:13
morning glory album. It came with three
26:15
bonus tracks, one of which was a non album
26:18
track sung by Noel entitled Half
26:20
the World Away. It remained
26:22
known only to the Oasisfaithful until
26:24
nineteen ninety eight when the creators
26:26
of a BBC comedy series called The Royal
26:28
Family asked to use it as a theme.
26:31
The show featured a lay about working class
26:33
Manchester family, so why not have
26:35
a song from a local band with working class
26:37
roots? Nall was a bit
26:39
confused at first thinking that the BBC wanted
26:41
another song called married with children, but no, no,
26:43
no, they wanted half the world away. Okay.
26:46
Fine. A special edit was created and
26:48
the song ran over the closing credits for
26:50
the show's twenty five episodes as well as
26:53
few specials. The song became
26:55
so popular as the result of its inclusion
26:57
with the royal family that had sold
26:59
more than six hundred thousand copies and has
27:01
been covered by a couple of other artists. Again,
27:05
nice unexpected windfall for
27:07
Nodalica. I
27:31
want to end with something tangentially related
27:33
to TV themed songs, and and you'll
27:35
see it by this as an important story. It
27:38
begins with a label called TVT.
27:40
That stands for TV Toons Inc.
27:43
The founder was a Harvard grad named
27:45
Steve Gottlieb, who started the company in
27:47
nineteen eighty four in his New York apartment.
27:50
He was fascinated by the music he heard on
27:52
television, especially theme songs. The
27:55
first thing he did was collect sixty five
27:57
themes from shows that were big in the fifties
27:59
and sixties under the title, television's
28:01
greatest hits. You know, the Flintstones, Beverly
28:04
Hills Billies, both the Munsters and
28:06
the Adams family and dozens more. Now
28:08
remember that this was the era before
28:11
the Internet, so Although this
28:13
was a niche market, Steve's compilation
28:15
was the only place anyone could get this
28:17
music, and Steve sold quite a few copies.
28:20
This got him thinking about branching out.
28:23
With his TV theme song compilation funding
28:25
things, TV tunes morphed
28:27
into TVT records. Steve's
28:31
first signing was, wait
28:33
for it, nine inch
28:35
nails. At the time,
28:38
Trent Resner was an unknown commodity
28:40
from Cleveland who couldn't find any other
28:42
record label interested in releasing his music.
28:45
Steve, having heard the demos and determining
28:47
that nine inch nails was the new Depeche
28:49
mode, signed them up. The
28:51
result was the pretty hate machine out one
28:53
of the great debut records in history of Alt
28:56
Rock. However, Steve
28:58
did not like the final version submitted by
29:00
Trent, Again, he thought
29:03
he had signed a dancy, dipesh mode
29:05
like band. Well, no.
29:07
He he got something far heavier far
29:10
angrier and way more aggressive than
29:12
he bargained for. He went so far
29:14
as calling the album an abortion, that's
29:16
a quote. The result was
29:18
a legal war that went on for
29:20
years. Trent was allegedly underpaid
29:23
while simultaneously being pressured to come up with something
29:25
more commercial for a second album. Trents,
29:28
anointed everything, especially Steve's meddling
29:30
in his creative process, basically
29:32
went on strike and refused to give TBT
29:35
any more music. Oh, he was recording
29:37
stuff, but in secret. It
29:39
wasn't until Trent met Jimmy Ivy of
29:41
inner scope records that the stalemate was
29:43
broken. Steve and TBT were
29:45
paid off. Trent moved to InterScope and resumed
29:48
his career. As part of the deal,
29:50
TBT gets cut of some nine inch nails
29:52
royalties. Now, as you listen to
29:54
this, it's instructive to remember
29:56
that this album and the start
29:58
of nine inch nails as an institution
30:00
in old rock, was financed by
30:03
the resale and distribution of
30:06
TV themes like Green
30:08
Acres and The Jetsons. The
30:21
music industry is a very different place
30:23
since we all started moving away from buying our music
30:25
and pieces of plastic. It's all
30:27
about digital files and streaming now.
30:30
Artists have had to get very creative when it
30:32
comes to finding new sources of revenue. And
30:34
if they have the good fortune of being offered a chance to
30:36
be part of a TV show, well, they're
30:38
most likely gonna take it. I
30:40
once asked Ed Robertson of the bare naked ladies
30:43
about their good fortune with the big bang
30:45
theory theme, and he just smiled
30:47
and said, Yeah. That paid for
30:49
a few mortgages. I'm sure some
30:51
of the other people mentioned in the show can say the same
30:53
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