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are trillions of galaxies in the

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observable universe, each containing billions of

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stars. There's

0:51

gotta be something out there. We can't be

0:53

alone. Wait, hang on.

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We need some appropriate music. Okay,

1:00

that'll work. Where

1:02

was I? Oh yeah. Organisms

1:04

floating in the acid clouds of Venus. Remains

1:08

of bacteria in the Martian soil. Creatures

1:10

swimming in the vast oceans below the ice

1:12

of Europa. Something lurking in

1:14

the methane lakes of Titan. And that's just

1:17

the start. Roswell. The

1:19

wow signal. Fast radio bursts. The

1:22

possibility of a Dyson sphere around Tabby's

1:24

star. Hints of something on the hydrogen

1:26

line frequency of 1.42405755177 gigahertz. And

1:31

now both NASA and the US government

1:34

have admitted that they don't know what's going

1:36

on with these strange objects that have been

1:39

buzzing the planet. Our

1:41

culture has absorbed these mysteries and

1:43

possibilities. And our music

1:45

reflects that. This

1:48

is UFOs, UAPs, aliens,

1:51

and rock. This

1:56

is the Ongoing History of New Music

1:59

Podcast with Alan That's

2:05

Babes and Toilens, covering

2:10

what they may have thought was

2:12

a carpenter song, but can

2:26

actually be traced back to a mysterious Canadian

2:28

band called Clattoo in 1976 that some

2:32

people believed to be a secretly reconstituted

2:34

version of The Beatles. Nope,

2:36

just some dudes from Toronto. Welcome

2:39

again, I'm Alan Cross, and it's time we

2:41

faced the truth. A lot of

2:43

rock, and I mean a hell of a lot, has

2:45

been inspired by the possibility of

2:48

extraterrestrial life. Themes of

2:50

aliens and unidentified aerial objects

2:52

are everywhere. This

2:54

isn't my imagination. What are

2:56

these songs trying to tell us? Are

2:58

artists being influenced by minds from outside our

3:01

time and space and dimension? The

3:04

idea of extraterrestrial visitations can be

3:06

traced back to ancient times. For

3:09

example, what the hell is

3:11

the biblical prophet Ezekiel talking about with his

3:13

vision of the Merkabah, a giant wheeled chariot

3:15

in the sky? There

3:17

are many ancient Roman accounts of things in

3:20

the sky that speak of phantom ships way

3:22

up there. If you're an art

3:24

scholar, there are paintings from the 1400s that seem to show

3:26

UFOs. Look

3:29

at Madonna with St. Giovanni or The

3:31

Miracle of Snow by Masoluno de Panacale.

3:34

By the time we get to the 1800s, there

3:37

are reports of strange airships, peculiar

3:39

visitors who speak in an unknown

3:41

language, and strange metals recovered from

3:44

crashed vehicles. By

3:46

the late 1940s, UFO

3:48

sightings were commonplace. There were

3:50

800 alone in 1947, including the

3:52

infamous UFO crash in Roswell, New

3:55

Mexico. Then came all the

3:57

alien movies. And then the

3:59

songs started coming. As

4:01

far as I can tell, the first

4:03

ever UFO themed song was by jazz

4:06

singer Ella Fitzgerald in Two

4:09

little minutes of flying

4:11

saucer flew down to

4:13

earth one day. Look

4:17

to left and right of it. In 1957

4:19

we heard from Billy Joe Fury with

4:22

Flying Saucer Rock and Roll. Well,

4:24

you all have all been a flying

4:26

river. I knew all the people

4:28

who were in the room. I knew I'd be with

4:30

all the boys and all the girls in the room.

4:38

And then in 1958, Chip

4:40

Willie and a big kid with the saucer. Well,

4:42

I know the things coming out of

4:44

the sky. It had a one long

4:46

horn, one big eye. I thought

4:48

the mist was shaking in the center of

4:51

the weeds. It looked like a person peeped

4:53

a leader to me. It was a one eyed, one horned

4:55

tiger. Since the

4:57

1960s, songs about space, UFOs,

4:59

and aliens have been very

5:02

common thanks to artists like Pink Floyd and Yes,

5:04

who were into a type of space rock. And

5:06

even Elton John, foreigner Neil Young got

5:08

into it. The birds had a hit with

5:11

Mr. Spaceman in 1966. Reg

5:13

Presley, the leader of the Troggs, remember the

5:15

song Wild Thing, was such

5:18

a devoted UFO investigator that

5:20

he hosted an English TV program

5:22

on the subject called Reg Presley's

5:25

UFO Show. He apparently invested

5:27

some of his royalties into investigating

5:29

crop circles. And he eventually

5:31

wrote a book called Wild Things They Don't

5:33

Tell Us, which was about UFOs,

5:35

of course. At precisely

5:37

9 p.m. on August 23, 1974,

5:40

John Lennon reported seeing some kind of

5:42

strange craft

5:46

above the Dakota apartment in New York City.

5:49

It was, quote, a thing with

5:51

ordinary electrical light bulbs flashing on

5:53

and off around the bottom, one

5:55

non-blinking red light on top, about

5:58

100 feet away and hovering above the an

6:00

adjacent building. There was a

6:02

row or circle of lights that traced the rim of

6:04

the aircraft. And if you go

6:06

back to the song, Nobody Told Me, which appears

6:08

on this posthumous milk and honey album, it

6:11

references that particular experience from 1974. And

6:16

Elvis was big into UFOs. His

6:18

father, Vernon, reportedly spotted a UFO

6:20

at 2am on the day Elvis

6:23

was born. According to

6:25

a person close to him, okay,

6:27

was his hairdresser and spiritual advisor,

6:30

Elvis believed that aliens began sharing

6:32

telepathic visions with him when he

6:34

was just eight years old. One

6:37

of those messages showed him as

6:39

old, wearing a white jumpsuit with

6:41

rhinestones. He claimed to

6:43

have seen UFOs above Graceland and while driving out

6:45

in the desert. Okay,

6:48

this is where we're going. And what

6:50

I'd like to do is look

6:52

at some artists who really want to believe or

6:54

at least profess to. And for

6:56

a starting point, let's go with David Bowie

6:58

and his alien alter ego Ziggy Stardust. Bowie

7:02

stumbled upon the character after a series of failed

7:04

attempts to come up with an image that would

7:06

get him noticed. After having

7:08

what was branded initially as

7:10

a novelty hits with his 1969

7:12

release Space Oddity, Bowie

7:14

began to turn his attention from Earth orbit

7:16

to the stars. Adapting

7:19

some costuming ideas and glitter dust used

7:21

by some of Andy Warhol's Alaud Guard

7:23

theater crew, Bowie capped

7:25

off his new look with a

7:28

strange striking orange puffball haircut, a

7:30

creation of a London hairstylist named Susie.

7:33

His wife, Angie, had become taken with a picture she

7:35

had seen in Vogue magazine. Bowie's

7:38

Spaceman became one of the most

7:40

influential characters music has ever seen.

7:43

Ziggy introduced a new sense of drama and

7:45

theater into rock and a new way of

7:47

promoting and marketing music. Ziggy

7:50

lasted only a year on Earth. He made his stage

7:52

debut on July 8th, 1972, and was retired forever on

7:54

July 3rd, 1973. He

8:00

kept all the costumes stored at a vault

8:02

somewhere in Switzerland. Some of them

8:04

were put on display as part of his David

8:06

Bowie Is Museum exhibit. Bowie

8:08

remained fascinated with extraterrestrials for some

8:11

time after his Ziggy phase. Although

8:14

his music moved on to different subjects, Bowie

8:16

was always watching the skies for

8:19

something. But then again, it

8:21

might have just been the drugs. He

8:23

eventually laughed about it, but there were times

8:25

in the cocaine haze of the mid-1970s when

8:28

Bowie really believed he was under

8:30

surveillance by aliens. For

8:33

example, between dates on the Diamond Dogs tour in 1974,

8:35

he'd sweep the sky with a

8:38

telescope that he took on tour with him in

8:41

hopes of communicating with these masters of the

8:43

universe. He was constantly sending

8:45

his personal assistant out to buy books

8:47

on UFOs. And when

8:49

he was offered the role as the mysterious and

8:51

doomed Thomas Jerome Newton, the alien in the movie

8:53

The Man Who Felt Earth in 1975, he jumped

8:56

at the chance. He

8:59

kept all the costumes from that project, too. And

9:02

if you had followed Bowie for the rest of his life, you'll

9:04

know that he maintained a fascination with

9:07

the extraterrestrial and the alien. Around

9:25

the same time Bowie was doing his Ziggy

9:27

thing, a five-year-old boy named Charles was out

9:30

playing in his yard with his brother in

9:32

Alliance Nebraska. Suddenly, something

9:34

appeared in the skies above them and flew

9:36

past. It was not an

9:38

airplane. And years later, he

9:40

remembered what happened. A big

9:43

silver rocket, silent, slow, no marking, low

9:45

to the ground, not very high up.

9:47

It was moving very slowly over the house. This

9:51

wasn't all that unusual for the family. Charles's

9:54

mother remembers seeing a UFO in 1965 when

9:56

Charles was a baby. She was with

9:58

several cousins. There

10:01

was a flying saucer floating above the house

10:03

for half an hour and everyone just stood

10:05

there and watched it. It was

10:07

hovering. Then the state police came and

10:09

chased it, but they couldn't catch up with it. My

10:12

mother's weird, but she's not that weird.

10:15

She's got no reason to make this stuff up." Charles

10:18

became fascinated with space. In

10:21

1986, when he was a student at the

10:23

University of Massachusetts, he had made

10:25

plans to fly to New Zealand so he could get

10:27

a good look at Halley's Comet. He

10:29

never made the trip and instead decided

10:31

to inform a band. He

10:33

changed his name to Black Francis and called his

10:35

new group the Pixies. And

10:38

if you know the Pixies' music and any of

10:40

the solo material Charles released under the name Frank

10:42

Blick, you'll know that there's

10:44

a whole lot of sci-fi in what was going

10:46

on. I quote Black Francis, "...we

10:49

tried to elevate the sci-fi thing, make it

10:51

more opera-ish, more of a serious rock thing.

10:54

We want UFOs to be an acceptable

10:56

topic. They're romantic." He

11:00

also says he's quite experienced with

11:02

UAPs, the current name for UFOs,

11:04

which stands for Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena.

11:08

I've actually had quite a few of them, mostly when I

11:10

was younger. A couple of them are fairly dramatic. That

11:13

gave me a little bit of license. The

11:15

culture of all that in the 1980s and the

11:17

90s, it was all still pre-internet.

11:21

You had to go to really strange AM radio

11:23

programs that were on late at night out of

11:25

Las Vegas. I used

11:27

to go to so-called UFO conventions,

11:29

these freeform gatherings of very oddball

11:31

people that were very caught up

11:33

in whatever it was that they were caught up

11:35

in, with outfits and songs and guitar sometimes. Some

11:39

of them were snake oil people that were selling crap,

11:41

but a lot of them believed in whatever

11:43

they were believing in. And

11:45

there are definitely people that

11:48

were really off, maybe mentally

11:50

imbalanced even, all gathered together

11:52

in a convention center at an airport. I

11:55

really enjoyed dabbling in that culture a little bit.

11:58

Here's a Pixies UFO track from their... Bossa Nova

12:00

album. It's called The Happening, which was

12:02

inspired by one of those radio shows

12:04

that covered UFO settings. They're

12:06

gonna put this down

12:10

right on the ground.

12:15

They're gonna put it

12:17

down on

12:20

the finger strip. We

12:23

have only just begun. More on

12:25

the connection between UFOs, UAPs, aliens,

12:27

and music coming up. Earlier,

12:30

I mentioned the Roswell incident. To get

12:33

everybody up to speed, here's an executive

12:35

summary. In 1947,

12:37

it seemed that everybody was spotting

12:40

UFOs. Like I said, there were 800 sightings

12:43

in the United States alone that year. In

12:46

early July, a rancher named Mark Barzill was

12:48

out for a ride on his horse. Strange

12:51

metal debris was scattered all over one of

12:53

his pastures. We didn't think much of

12:56

it, but the following Saturday, this would

12:58

be July the 5th, 1947, he went into town for a

13:01

few beers. When he explained what he'd

13:04

found, his buddy said,

13:06

hey, haven't you heard about them flying

13:08

saucers? Sounds like this could be one of them. Barzill

13:11

gathered up some of the debris and took

13:13

it to the sheriff's office, which then contacted

13:16

the local military. And within hours,

13:18

personnel at the nearby Army base in

13:20

Roswell, New Mexico were involved and

13:23

they were crawling all over his pasture. On

13:26

July 8th, the press officer at

13:28

Roswell Army Airfield issued a release

13:30

that a flying disk had been

13:32

recovered. That release was

13:35

quickly retracted, but not before

13:37

it caused a media sensation. Eventually,

13:39

though, the whole thing just kind of died out. It

13:41

was just a weather balloon, said the military. Okay,

13:45

fine. But starting

13:47

in 1978, ufologists resurrected

13:49

the tale with a series of

13:51

newspaper articles, books, TV shows and

13:54

movies. And so the

13:56

legend of Roswell began, 30 years

13:58

after the incident. The cover-up

14:01

has been one of the most enduring UFO conspiracy

14:03

theories of all time. The

14:05

military has always denied anything strange was found on

14:08

that day in 1947, and that includes recovered

14:12

alien bodies. No such thing.

14:15

A definitive report on the incident was released in 1997, 50

14:17

years after it all happened, but that

14:20

has not dampened any interest at all. Instead,

14:23

Roswell has become fixed in popular

14:25

culture. Which brings us to

14:27

the Foo Fighters. If

14:30

you check any Foo Fighters release, you'll see

14:32

that the name of Dave Grohl's record label

14:34

is Roswell Recordings. The

14:37

first album featured a suspicious-looking ray gun

14:39

on the cover. And

14:41

then there's the name Foo Fighters. Here

14:44

is the official story. Toward

14:46

the end of World War II, the U.S.

14:48

Air Force had special squadrons patrolling

14:50

the skies over Germany. Every

14:53

once in a while, they would run

14:55

into a strange aerial phenomenon over Alsace-Lorraine

14:57

and the Rhine Valley. Some

14:59

thought that they were flying soldiers. Others

15:02

believed that the highly maneuverable balls of light

15:04

were a new type of German weapon. The

15:07

pilots in this squadron became known as

15:09

Foo Fighters, after the French word foo,

15:11

which means fire. Pilots

15:14

who reported encounters with foos were

15:17

ridiculed by their fellow flyers and their commanding

15:19

officers. But there was still

15:21

concern about what was going on up there.

15:24

As a result, the story of the Foo Fighters,

15:26

the World War II kind, was

15:28

declared top secret for a while. Now,

15:45

Dave Grohl says that if he had to do it all over

15:47

again, he would come up with another name for his band. It

15:50

wasn't long before he got tired of telling the same story

15:52

over and over again. And I quote, every

15:55

time we get together to do an interview or every

15:57

time we read a feature on the band. It

16:00

was more to do with UFOs in science

16:02

fiction than music. I'm a big

16:04

sci-fi bug. I'm a UFO buff. So

16:07

people suppose I'm obsessed with outer

16:09

space, which I'm just not. I

16:11

love reading about it. I love science fiction movies, but

16:14

I don't pray to the alien god in my

16:16

pyramid temple. In response to

16:18

all this, Dave wrote a song called Enough

16:20

Space on the Color and the Shape album,

16:22

so please don't ask him about

16:24

it anymore. Here are

16:26

a few other artists who claim to have had

16:28

some kind of close encounter. Lemmy

16:31

of Motorhead. In 1966,

16:34

he was playing in a band called The Rockin'

16:36

Vickers, and he reported this. This

16:38

thing came over the horizon and stopped dead in the

16:40

middle of the sky. Then it

16:42

went from a standstill to top speed immediately.

16:45

We don't even have aircraft to do that now, never

16:47

mind then. So that was pretty eye-opening

16:49

for me. Keith Richards

16:51

of the Rolling Stones. In

16:54

1968, he was absolutely convinced that

16:56

UFOs were using his estate in

16:58

West Sussex as a landing zone.

17:02

I've seen a few, but nothing that any of

17:04

the ministries would believe. I believe

17:06

they exist. Plenty of people have seen them. They're

17:09

tied up with a lot of things, like the dawn

17:11

of man, for example. It's not

17:13

just a matter of people spotting a flying saucer. I'm

17:15

not an expert. I'm still trying to

17:17

understand what's going on. And

17:20

Jimi Hendrix was a believer. He

17:22

claimed that as a kid, he and his

17:24

brother Leon saw something weird from their bedroom

17:27

window. If you dig into

17:29

the meaning of the song Purple Haze, it

17:31

might have at least some passing reference to what he

17:33

saw that night. I

17:36

think this calls for more Bowie. I

17:53

have more rock stars who believe in UFOs. Mick

17:56

Jagger. In 1968, he was on

17:58

a camping trip to Glastonbury when he saw a...

18:00

cigar shaped ship in the sky. A

18:02

year later he saw some a craft. And

18:05

that prompted him to install a U F

18:07

O detector in his house. Okay,

18:09

so What was that? Well. Some

18:12

kind of detector of electromagnetic waves. He

18:14

said it would regularly go off, but

18:16

only when he was an home. Post

18:19

mom says that he seen you oppose

18:21

twice swishing until he saw some kind

18:23

of read or above were like in

18:25

California. Sun Ra, the

18:27

Wild About Guard jazz futurist at

18:30

several chats with aliens, all of

18:32

whom wanted him to accompany them.

18:34

Somewhere. To help the teenagers

18:36

have a distant. But. He turned

18:39

them down sings it wasn't interested. And

18:41

Sammy Hagar says he was abducted when he

18:43

was eighteen. This was nineteen sixty seven. And

18:45

I quote. I'm. In bed and all

18:47

of a sudden I see in my head I

18:49

feel that there's to aliens in a ship and

18:51

I could see that they had something plugged into

18:54

me. A web

18:56

semi get probed. And

18:58

this will come as no surprise to anyone

19:00

who is a fan of muse. Matt.

19:03

Bellamy is not only a student

19:05

of cosmology conspiracies. He's.

19:07

A believer in aliens. He

19:09

also believes that he might have been

19:11

abducted himself. Probably. Buy those

19:14

damn brace that are always probing one eyed. After

19:16

recording session Matt was driving home when he saw

19:18

flashing light in the woods at about one in

19:20

the morning and decided to check it out. The

19:23

next thing he remembers his wake me up alone

19:26

at home. Now. We.

19:28

Does admit that some recreational

19:30

substances were consumed at night

19:32

and what he saw was

19:34

probably helicopter bots. Still,

19:37

Believe. We

19:55

are far from dust and we haven't even touched on

19:57

two guys who have taken their U F O obsessions

19:59

to the next level. Hang. On.

20:02

It's. Not just rock stars who believe

20:04

in you Athos, Grimes, Dodger Cats and

20:07

Demi Lovato or on board. The

20:09

English singer Sheryl Crow is pretty

20:11

sure a planet is partly by

20:13

volunteers who arrive from space. Robbie

20:16

Williams, one of the biggest pop stars ever

20:18

produced by the Uk, is so convinced that

20:20

aliens exist that he made a documentary on

20:22

the subject. Which. Brings us to

20:24

Sean writer of the Happy Mondays. He

20:27

claims to have had multiple encounters with

20:29

flying saucers. I don't go looking for

20:31

aliens. Who says. They. Find Me.

20:34

And he was fifteen. He in a buddy were walking

20:37

to the bus stop. We. Just saw

20:39

these things zigzagging about. And

20:41

that was the beginning of a

20:43

lifelong obsession with all things extraterrestrial

20:46

and also multiple observations of you

20:48

a piece right from his backyard.

20:51

During a break with the Monday's show and made a

20:53

Tv series of the subject. Shown

20:58

rider as a sixteen year old body

21:00

so foot long before my oh raising

21:02

on Six and a Mondays. sort of

21:04

all of like. I've

21:18

always wanted to understand why saw that

21:20

day. I

21:24

missed. Hours of

21:26

us are. Always

21:32

most mysterious phenomena. Are

21:37

we meeting? Switches.

21:48

Say well why is this is one of

21:51

the census I'm seeing things that other the

21:53

same. Very

22:12

committed what it comes to his beliefs, new Ufos,

22:14

nail events, But. Out of all

22:16

the people we've talked about, no one has

22:18

gone deeper into the subject. And Tom Delong

22:21

a blink one eighty two. He

22:23

is a genuine serious you

22:25

have whoa researcher. His

22:28

fascination began in junior high. He.

22:30

Was a difficult rebellious to gotta do a

22:32

lot of trouble. The. Last thing

22:34

he wanted when he grew up was to be

22:36

stuck in a boring nine to five job. Then.

22:40

He saw Star Wars and

22:42

then Close Encounters. And.

22:44

That got him thinking about what might be

22:46

up there. He started

22:48

reading and researching as much as he could.

22:51

You of those were great, but he also got

22:53

into theories of paranormal activity. When

22:56

blink wanted to came together when he started making

22:58

some money, Is very first royalty

23:00

check went to buying a personal

23:02

computer which he immediately put to

23:04

work looking for more information on

23:06

aliens. He was known for spending

23:08

long hours in the tour bus looking at

23:11

the windows open to spot something strange in

23:13

the sky. He claims to have

23:15

spent a night in the desert where he saw

23:17

things zipping and zigzagging. roster stars. If

23:20

he had a chance, pete organize a big

23:22

foot search party. Tom accumulated

23:24

dozens and dozens and dozens

23:26

of books and videotapes. The.

23:28

Best Ones featured military types revealing the

23:30

strange things they saw and what they

23:33

knew. His obsession was

23:35

so great. It is said that his relationship

23:37

with your two guys in the band got

23:39

pretty strange. Simply. Because

23:42

he was always pursuing series and

23:44

conspiracies. And. Twenty eleventh,

23:46

he sounded strange times a website

23:48

devoted to the topic. He. Wrote

23:50

a children's book called the Lonely Astronaut

23:53

on Christmas Eve. or

23:55

separate from the bad he co wrote

23:57

a number of novels and nonfiction books

23:59

called see machines. That led

24:01

to a History Channel series

24:04

called Unidentified Inside America's UFO

24:06

Investigation. Also during his

24:08

time away from the band, he founded

24:10

the To The Space Academy of Arts

24:12

and Sciences, a company with both an

24:14

entertainment division and another

24:16

seriously devoted to aerospace, UAPs,

24:19

and technological research into theories like

24:21

zero-point energy as a method of

24:23

propulsion. This is no

24:25

minor undertaking. To The

24:27

Stars is staffed with academics, engineers,

24:30

NASA scientists, ex-government officials,

24:33

and at least one former member of the CIA.

24:36

The Academy has also been relentless in

24:38

demanding government institutions be more accountable and

24:40

transparent when it comes to what they

24:43

know. One of

24:45

the company's initiatives is the Acquisition

24:47

and Data Analysis of Materials Research

24:49

Project, which is devoted to examining

24:52

alleged exotic alien materials recovered from

24:54

crashed UFOs. They say

24:56

they've got some. And in

24:58

October 2023, a movie called Monsters

25:01

of California was released. This was

25:03

Tom's full-length directorial debut about a

25:05

couple of kids who get

25:07

sucked into a situation involving a missing

25:09

father, some paranormal activities, and

25:11

the military. These days,

25:14

Tom is pretty excited given that the U.S. government

25:16

and NASA have acknowledged that UAPs

25:18

exist, and that they

25:20

don't know what they are. Tom

25:22

took to wearing a T-shirt for blink shows that reads,

25:25

Tom was right. Then there's this song.

25:27

Tom has this to say. As

25:30

a hobby, all I ever do is read books

25:33

and study material on UFOs and government conspiracies. So

25:35

I wrote a song about a guy talking

25:38

about aliens as though he's had a weird experience, but

25:40

nobody believes him. They think he's full of crap.

25:43

But he's directing his angst towards the

25:46

government because the government knows there's something going

25:49

on. I think it's just a

25:51

cool song coming from that point of view. And

25:53

here it is. I got an

25:55

infection. I'm pneumonia. Here

26:06

is a finalist of Rock Stars Who Believe

26:08

In Aliens and U F O's. Billy.

26:10

Bragg will spend hours talking about the center.

26:12

His wife used to study crop circles and

26:14

she claims to have seen a you have

26:16

a making one. Stay. Mascot of

26:18

Dinosaur Jr. won't talk about his experiences,

26:20

but he's dropped hints that he may

26:23

have been abducted and probed at least

26:25

once. And peripheral of Jane's

26:27

Addiction and porn or for piracy is completely

26:29

on board with all this. He's

26:31

also into crop circles and believes that

26:33

aliens live among us so they can

26:35

research or behavior. They. Might

26:37

be time travelers he says. Very.

26:39

Once organized music festival called seen It

26:42

in addition to all the live performances

26:44

from all these different bands, part of

26:46

its purpose was to draw in these

26:49

alien visitors. But. As far as

26:51

we know, they did not show up. If

26:53

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