Matt and Jonny start things off by talking about their favorite post-apocalyptic literature, for no particular reason at all. Then they get into the thick of it, talking about one of the first Christian Punk bands to ever exist, The Crucified. We talk about their first and second albums, comparing the lyrical content to other classic Christian texts. Finally we look at the long and varied career of Christian punk legend Mark Salomon, from The Crucified and Stavesacre to his other professional accomplishments.