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supreme court nominee concerns you brown
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jackson has now finish the question and answer
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portion of her confirmation hearing after
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three days of absolute nonsense
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four primary here's how
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lindsey graham promise the
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hearing would go earlier this week
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for the public and respectful boss
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the we can meet the
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those criterion they
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, be a circus were out a good start
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and won't be a circus here's how it actually went good
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good under slab summer will go out
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there are to do not allow her
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to finish please help you go to jail for
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fifty years if you're on the internet
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trolling for images a children's insects
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a lot exportation six see don't
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think that's a bad thing as a dishonorable
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he would sit with the said look
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at said afghan government is made
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up a former detainees in gitmo
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this whole the bible laughed
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about this war a working
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did did he agree with this book that is being
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taught with kids that the babies a racist
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the year virtues and more of your habeas
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petition the government of acting as
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war criminals they're holding
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the detainees and i'm holding
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of the detainees by bar government
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that were acting as war criminals if
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it your personal hidden agenda to and
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core
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right critical race theory into
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our legal system when
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you accuse somebody of a crime are
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you calling them
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a criminal can you
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provide a definition for the word woman
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fucking nonsense nonsense
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what do we know about whether that rather
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sad display of asshole or he actually
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moved any votes or shifted
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public opinion anyway foot does
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not seems to have moved any votes
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and is votes from what we understand right
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now right think that
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jackson came into this hearing ah
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i'm a strong path to
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being confirmed as he first block of us from purchases
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country's history and none of that has changed in fact i
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think if any votes or moves they were they might
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have happened among the
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senate republicans who might be embarrassed
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to be dropping associate with question of dumb ass
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holes like a rob portman
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or arms mitt romney
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your lisa murkowski your susan collins who might
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have been on the fence this might help move them
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and direction voting for it's terms of public opinion
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that's shocking came into this as with the
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greatest base of support of any it's supreme
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court nominee since john
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roberts and i don't
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think she was any support it would not surprise me
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if opposition grew a little bit only
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because the right wing media
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sort of ah taken a pass on
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this confirmation hearing in this nominations
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for the beginning and so it's a lot of the republicans
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in the poll told gala who did the poll
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that they did not have enough information to make a decision
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and damn sure all these clips
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are all over facebook and fox
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news so there you may get may few but i don't think it changes any
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of the dynamics
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yeah the right wing media was like wait a minute a black
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woman being nominated of the supreme court we're not going to sleep
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on that he's a splitter we are you crazy
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when i say get out of on that know you're right
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amygdala body politic in march first the
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eighteenth and found fifty eight percent
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of americans support or jackson's confirmation
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as you said hi since john roberts or seventeen
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years ago though are pretty strong
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base of support a mansion in cinema
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seems solid
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debbie stabenow was the odd number for
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democrat in the senate or her job to count the votes
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ah she said i don't know if any of us
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will be able to sustain that with the grace the point intelligence
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that she showed if anything it's just strengthening
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how people feel about her on the democratic
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side you see no change in any the votes
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well i i write
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if you're the mega base your the mag
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of base you see this stuff on stuff on
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on your prime time fox and you know
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you're you're probably getting angry and outraged
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and suddenly you don't like can potentially brown jackson
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even though you never heard of her is how a
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for for in the i've
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been to be a few have fewer just a
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casual news consumers just
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happened to see you know turn on the news for
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a couple minutes or to scroll through some headline
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then you come away with the impression
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that
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the bunch of these animals were just yelling things
10:05
that her the didn't really make any sense like they sounded
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extreme and incoherent which
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, like you know you can do one or the other
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but you do both and i don't know if you're landing
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any landing any blows there on the supreme
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court nominee particularly because
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so many the issues they raised with her had absolutely
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nothing to do with any of the cases that
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she would weigh in on as in on court justice
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they didn't really link her views
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or judicial philosophy two cases
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that she might see when she's actually
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make year when she's a supreme court justice they
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basically just talked about random
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culture war said that they've been talking about for the last
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couple years anyway and that they wanna talk about
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in the midterms and they used they confirmation
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of the first black woman to serve
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on the supreme court as an
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excuse to bring up all the attacks
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they they want to bring up over the midterms that's
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that's basically what i thought i think it's actually pretty obvious
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to any sort of casual news consumer who saw
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that get there was no subtlety that there's
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no subtlety of in
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there was stiff competition between graham just
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holly marsha blackburn and
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tom cotton for the title of our biggest senate
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asshole that any and then none
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of them we're able to beat the man who's
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been training his entire life or
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moments just like
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under the modern left sensibilities
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if if i ,
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right now that that i'm a woman woman
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then apparently i'm a woman
11:31
tell me does that same principle apply
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to other protected characteristics
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were example i'm characteristics were a smack man
11:37
could could i decide i was an asian man the
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fine okay the
11:45
he is he having is he confuse what's going
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on his ceiling always had good he is being
11:50
his for ted cruz self i look at
11:52
it every so often takers issues from a never seems like
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of the washer via thing plucks
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you've lot of loss you wash your second
11:58
grade class live near a third
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they were flexing your fourth grade class elections
12:02
take last for everything in your life never won
12:04
anything until you realize the
12:07
only count as you can win they
12:09
never lose the biggest asshole so
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congratulations said chris
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you know and he just maybe mrs
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but he just came from there
12:17
the montana airport where he was screaming at a bunch
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of people do you know who i am covering
12:22
them into his every issue at the airports
12:24
precipitous that they did so funny
12:26
is the for ted cruz's he has
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spent his entire life be the most of my to a person
12:30
and any organization room whenever
12:32
he's whenever been in the only people
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who don't dislike ted cruz
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of the people who don't know him and now he's mad at people
12:38
for not knowing him see that's why don't you know
12:40
she's
12:42
the know him is to loathe him i mean that
12:44
is just the truth i thought that the best comment about
12:46
ted cruz's performance came from our own tommy vietor
12:48
who tweeted i know politicians nope
12:53
, is consistently looks as petty
12:55
and small is ted cruz the as the human
12:57
equivalent of a flaccid penis in a freezing cold
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pull this i
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would say i just think if you have a little
13:04
ah
13:05
the behind a curtain here when time he tweeted
13:07
that i texted it to him as he said
13:11
it is that okay aranda by john and
13:13
i said which john the
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subject of a real are you bother with
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lawyer finds out on a bad yes
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no i said because said said the time is it
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but there's
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no one no one is going to ever attack
13:24
you for whatever you say about ted cruz
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unless it's a compliment says you're correct not
13:29
it a free shot as has even
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republicans don't like ted cruz no
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one likes ted cruz i will say
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though and time his tweet total cowards ratio
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ten times the number of like when our teeth on
13:40
that are , guys like that three
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what is going going see what's
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see , takers quote is it lindsey graham who said
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that if ted cruz ah was murder
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on the for the center the one way
13:52
it was it yet it occurs murder the fourth set at no
13:54
one would testify against the murder correct
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correct that was lindsey graham everything
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the know about why republicans
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do what they did over the last three days in
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l a times photographer
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that a fantastic picture of ted cruz
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searching twitter for his own name
14:12
just after he finished yelling
14:14
the judge jackson including them
14:16
for ridiculous quote that we had that first
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clip which was do you think
14:21
the babies are racist
14:23
the egg he just i
14:25
wrote the first of all
14:26
yes it was a complete outrage what
14:29
republicans dead on the senate
14:31
it like everyone should be mad about i was mad about
14:33
it it was also fucking clownish
14:36
and ridiculous that i don't want to let that part go
14:38
either because ted cruz
14:40
is he didn't see it like blow
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up a picture the kid's
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book while the anti racists
14:47
baby more it up put
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it on and evil the as
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the supreme court nominee if she
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thinks that babies are racist
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it doesn't get more fucking nuts than
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that it does when
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there is
15:04
a more serious than got a most irresponsible
15:07
get some of the but it's many people pointed
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this out but i think we should just reiterate
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it which is
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the fact that jackson had to
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sit there and calmly take
15:18
all of this bullshit the is
15:21
the offensive to her as a person and
15:23
it bespeaks a larger double centered in this
15:25
country because take brett kavanaugh
15:27
for instance who got to take widget
15:29
admit lines of inquiry about
15:32
credible allegations sexual assaults throw
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a fucking hissy fit act
15:36
like a giant asshole on the stand
15:39
and in one him votes that
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is other thing a black woman could do in this country associates
15:43
you sit there and listen to these people
15:46
that your nicer demeaned hurts
15:48
demagogue her record and sit there and take
15:50
and how she did that i do not
15:52
know it is to her great credit i'm
15:54
sure it's probably it's spending an entire
15:56
weiss the into a bunch of vassals
15:58
like this maybe not always on national
16:01
television it's why she
16:03
was sitting there sitting there first place it's how she got
16:05
one for dallas and she'd also and in also recent
16:07
performances been through performances couple of confirmation
16:09
before so she's a pro
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in every way you know even the
16:13
new york times
16:15
not in an editorial and and analysis peace
16:18
got exactly what was going on or they
16:20
wrote the message from the texas republican seems
16:22
clear a black woman vying for lifetime
16:24
appointment on the highest court in the land would coddled
16:26
criminals go easy on pedophiles and subject
16:29
white people to the view that they were by nature oppressors
16:32
i'm not subtle there's not really
16:34
that subtle i'll tell you what was the least
16:36
subtle things are in case you're wondering
16:38
if if if the republican senators
16:41
were still a little too subtle for you what they were trying
16:43
to do ah here's mega
16:45
youth media start charlie kirk saying
16:47
the choir part out loud on his show this week
16:49
quote kittens you brown jackson
16:51
is what your country looks like on critical
16:54
race theory your children and your grandchildren
16:56
going to have to take orders from people like
17:00
and what's amazing is that she has kind of an attitude
17:03
to fucking gross
17:07
how do you think your jackson and the democrats
17:09
on the committee handled all this bullshit i
17:11
mean she did a phenomenal job
17:14
producers and we like who knows how to anyone
17:16
has the forbearance to put up with
17:18
these people in answer calmly and
17:21
try to make sense of these asinine
17:23
questions to make legitimate points about the kind
17:25
of justice she would be make the case recovery she did
17:27
a phenomenal job i think
17:29
some democrats did better than others
17:31
obviously senator book senator gave or gave that
17:33
was incredibly emotional and powerful
17:36
and ah the
17:38
very worthy of the moment i
17:41
think the
17:43
democrats could have done more to push
17:45
back on her behalf to call
17:47
out of the republicans were doing more explicit waste
17:49
cobb and sort of it's this
17:52
is the asymmetry of a lot of
17:54
these hearings for democrats either
17:57
whether the house and senate as republicans
17:59
treat them as this performance art
18:01
for social media cable television and democrats
18:03
treat them as a serious congressional hearing nama
18:05
think we should act like them but we shouldn't
18:07
we should i we need to be able
18:10
to anticipate and respond to their tactics
18:12
more aggressively and
18:14
cleverly the just suggesting that they have exceeded
18:16
for time with surfaced cities like the problem
18:18
is not the your ass over six minutes at a five minute
18:20
a lotta times the promise your ass all
18:23
right i think that somehow we have to call out yeah
18:27
i just want to one
18:28
i want to have a play couple clips here just
18:30
to get content you burn jackson's voice is
18:32
near and cory booker speech which was
18:35
i thought phenomenal ah this
18:37
is as close as judge jackson
18:39
got to annoyed during this
18:41
or entire three days of really
18:44
annoying bullshit from republicans people
18:46
committee gave him very months my question is
18:48
do you regret that are not sen
18:51
why i regret it
18:53
is that in a hearing about
18:56
mike wallace the key in too
18:59
the adjusted on the supreme
19:01
court we spent a lot of time
19:05
focusing this
19:07
small subset of my
19:09
sentences you know and she goes on
19:11
to talk about how you
19:14
know any judge who has
19:17
to decide a case that involves child
19:19
abuse like some of these
19:21
cases that they're questioning her about
19:23
it is a grueling thing to go through
19:26
you know and and if if you know what to do
19:28
the vet to do this and i do it is
19:30
like you have to you
19:32
have to look to the images you have to read the testimony
19:35
the case it is not easy and and she
19:37
spoke eloquently i thought
19:39
about how awful and
19:41
hard it was and how just
19:44
this despicable these
19:46
crimes are and see
19:48
in her sentencing is
19:50
just right in the center
19:53
with all these other judges republican
19:55
nominee to judges democrat nominated judges
19:57
judges the josh holly voted for to
20:00
in the same fucking sentences
20:02
as they have with all other judges have and
20:04
yet she has to deal with us because
20:06
josh holly decided that it would be
20:09
a good line of attack that it was not
20:11
just soft on crime but also soft
20:13
on child's crime which is a you
20:16
know dog whistle to the fucking q and on people
20:18
who by the way got it because it was all over their message
20:20
board so they heard it they heard the whistle
20:23
and here's cory booker his speech which i thought
20:25
was by far just the best of the week it's
20:27
hard for me not to look at you not see my
20:29
mom not to
20:31
see my
20:33
i got one of them who had to come here
20:35
and sit behind you the attribute
20:38
she had to have your back see
20:40
my ancestors and years nobody's
20:43
going to steal the joy that woman in the streets
20:46
or the cause it i'm getting where the texts
20:48
nobody's going to steal bachelor you
20:51
have on the spot you are worthy
20:54
you are a great american i
20:57
will just say that i thought no
20:59
one made republican
21:02
senators the smaller
21:05
than cory booker did the other
21:07
day
21:08
no expression of outrage know
21:10
burn know tweet know attack
21:12
on republicans from any other democrats
21:15
i i get what you're saying about
21:17
you know or other democrats definitely could have done
21:20
a little bit more and when you actually look
21:22
through the hearings you know they said it
21:24
was gross , beneath
21:26
that the hearings and how are we dealing
21:28
with this and you know you're putting words in the
21:30
witnesses mouth like they did all that
21:33
dick durbin do not get control of the committee
21:35
and you know let them keep going and probably could
21:37
have dabbled them in earlier for sure
21:39
but like they did attacked
21:42
the other public and centers but that's not what was
21:44
needed that doesn't necessarily what
21:46
was going to stick with people what was going
21:48
to stick with people stick people are going to take away from
21:50
this and remember if they remember anything
21:52
aside from those fucking awful gross
21:54
attacks is what cory booker said
21:58
and i think that only cory booker could
22:00
done that and i i i don't know that we needed
22:02
another impassioned speech from like
22:04
a white guy on the committee like i
22:06
what what we needed was what cory booker
22:08
said just and and said thought that well i i
22:10
buy cried now multiple times when i've heard that
22:12
which is just it was in it was an amazing speak the
22:14
i i think you're exactly right about
22:18
the power of booker speech why but
22:20
also the right approach
22:22
is to return to first principles
22:25
which is it is not like
22:27
this hearing is theoretically
22:30
about the qualifications of the of
22:32
this judge to become a supreme court justice
22:35
but what if you hit and this is sort of are probably
22:37
try to do is say in a very good as dragging us all
22:39
into the might end up losing sight
22:42
the bigger picture which is
22:45
it is are horrendous injustice
22:47
that for the history of this country there's never been a black
22:50
woman on the nazis report deaths
22:52
horrendous and that wrong is
22:54
being right here and is being ready with a tremendous
22:57
qualified brilliant woman
23:00
apparently incredibly patient woman to do
23:02
it adds that you
23:04
don't i think that's why the number you know
23:07
in that poll that we talked about earlier in the podcast
23:09
are so high for for a relative
23:11
to set you know whether it was
23:14
a lady kagan or the
23:16
of course it's for republicans or whatever else
23:19
was because this is a moment people recognize
23:21
that moment and cory booker reminded us
23:23
of that moment as a sort of or horse or try that's
23:25
part of the tactic years in in of
23:27
with some efficacy because it took us
23:29
and told us and i know city mid american
23:31
spike as to hear just jackson's force
23:33
right to talk about acts as
23:36
a know kudos a cory booker for
23:38
sort of thinking about politics in a bigger
23:40
way and reminder guess of the greater truth here
23:42
and that's what cuts through all the bullshit
23:45
i think we're democrats need to keep in mind is
23:47
that when the most important things he said
23:49
was i'm not letting anyone in the senate
23:51
steal my joy
23:54
the town's you brown jackson is going to get confirmed
23:56
she's fifty one years old the gonna
23:58
be on the supreme court for a long time should
24:01
be the first black woman to serve on supreme
24:03
court after far far too long and
24:05
she's going to have a huge impact i'm
24:08
not just a symbolic impact but in the actual
24:10
decisions that she hands down and hopefully
24:12
she can about some point when the
24:15
liberal justices or and majority but
24:18
we're going to get around the court and that's the when and
24:20
and people should feel very proud of that in
24:22
should not let yourself get dragged down in the moderate
24:24
republicans because that is what they want our friend
24:28
heather muggy really made me think what the a tweet
24:31
where'd she she tweeted a picture of cruz looking for
24:33
his own name and she said yeah this is why
24:35
i haven't the amplified
24:38
a lot of the republican comments over the last couple
24:40
days even to attack them even to disagree
24:42
with them because that's what they want they
24:45
want us to argue about the
24:47
bullshit that they said they want us to remember
24:50
that that's what they said and what
24:52
we should take away from this hearing is what the
24:54
time you brown jackson said about herself
24:56
about her record about her life but her qualifications
24:59
and what cory booker said about what this moment truly
25:02
means for her for black
25:04
americans and for the entire country and
25:06
that's what we should take away from me this this
25:08
period end of last
25:10
year or so has been incredibly frustrating for a lot
25:12
of progresses right a lot of the things that
25:15
we hope to get done have run into joe manchin
25:17
or cure some cinnamon all that but
25:20
that great two thousand transaction was sitting there
25:22
in that hearing room yesterday it's it
25:24
is going to be confirms from courts
25:26
is
25:27
only because of the work
25:30
people did in the presidential election
25:32
an interpreter so for whatever
25:34
things that we want to get them we have not gotten done yet
25:36
that usually
25:39
important incredible thing that is going to
25:41
last for decades happened
25:43
because a bunch of people did a whole bunch of really
25:45
important organizing work and like so if you're looking
25:47
for reasons to remember what felt so good
25:49
this is one of them yeah you wonder
25:51
why you did the work this is why did we've
25:54
got little bit about different uses pod but even
25:57
though a lot of the antics from the hearings were just republicans
26:00
republicans it also seem like they were testing
26:02
outlines of attacked for the midterms on
26:04
their favorite culture where issues crime critical
26:06
race theory chance transgender rights
26:09
or i know you were to message box about this today
26:12
, do you what are your thoughts republicans
26:15
has to
26:17
strategies for twenty twenty two
26:19
and one of them if they have to keep
26:22
their base at a fever
26:24
pitch and that's what all this culture
26:26
war stuff is about it's about
26:28
weaponizing race in
26:30
crime and demagoguing
26:34
the trans community and everything else
26:36
is to scare the living shit
26:38
out of
26:40
the airbase breitbart more overwhelmingly
26:42
white base but they want
26:45
to do that for their base and
26:47
dad which they believe they communicate
26:49
with directly through fox they spark whatever
26:51
observe right wing media machine then
26:54
also have a separate message that
26:56
is about inflation in gas prices
26:58
ads and wherever we are in
27:01
the pandemic on election day canton so there's
27:03
this is the this is that first part about trying to
27:05
keep people as fired up
27:07
the as possible to get as much for know they can
27:09
possibly get it which is why they
27:12
you know it's it's not an accident
27:14
that they made this explicit appeals to queue and
27:16
aunts because you know and is less
27:18
we should be very specific about what that what that is
27:20
she went on is a halt
27:23
to the f b i have gotten message earth and republicans
27:25
need them as further coalition because
27:27
for all of the discussion of the strength
27:29
they have in the selection because of inflation
27:32
or gas prices present binds of providing be
27:35
political position of republicans continues
27:37
to deteriorate nationally their bases
27:39
shrinking as a percentage of countries and so
27:41
they need to and on said this is
27:43
this is explicit appeal to keep those
27:46
people in the base
27:49
yeah no i think it's a very good point
27:51
that republicans just
27:53
get their base excited outraged
27:56
over all this shit they like to do
27:59
that's probably not enough what
28:01
they have also is this message
28:03
about
28:04
inflation and chaos
28:06
everywhere and aren't you just unhappy with the way things
28:09
are going in the country particularly the economy right
28:11
arm that of course they may
28:13
end up winning the midterms based on that message
28:16
that's not what gets them up in the mornings right would
28:18
would get some up in the morning is picking fights
28:21
about race and sex and gender
28:23
and identity and that's
28:25
what did and you saw me tearing for that's what they really
28:27
care about but it is it
28:30
is tricky for them because some of the voters
28:32
they may get
28:33
by saying aren't you just pissed off about
28:35
inflation of don't you think biden should have fixed it by now
28:38
not agree with them are all of these
28:40
positions that they took this week that people saw on
28:42
tv or and i actually think that i
28:45
did today over reached
28:47
a good deal in this hearing because
28:50
it's like they like think they seemed
28:53
the with race and sex
28:56
and gender
28:57
in a way where you know like i said had ted
28:59
cruz's blowing up a kid's book marsha
29:02
blackburn is asking a supreme court nominee
29:04
to define the word woman i
29:06
mean it seems like an
29:08
obsession and again i'm not talking about to the base
29:10
the base buzzes the base gets hit the
29:12
base get outraged over the shit but for
29:14
most people who don't follow this it
29:17
seems fucking weird it
29:19
seems like a weird fucking obsession and also
29:21
like your this was this was of the hearing but
29:24
mike braun a republican senator
29:26
from indiana
29:27
said during an interview about your jackson's confirmation
29:30
on tuesday that he'd be open
29:32
to the supreme court overturning
29:34
it's nineteen sixty seven ruling
29:37
but legalized interracial marriage
29:40
in he'd be okay with that with the supreme
29:42
court leaving that issue up to the states also
29:44
of contraception as well here's
29:46
a clip so you'd be okay with the supreme
29:48
court leaving the question of interracial
29:51
marriage to the states
29:53
yes i think that that's something that die
29:55
if you're not wanting to supreme court's
29:57
to wait and on issue
30:00
the like that where you're not going to
30:02
be able to have your cake and eat it too i think it's hypocritical
30:04
not going to be able to have your cake and eat
30:06
it too interracial marriage
30:09
or they went on to ask him about chris while vs connecticut
30:11
which case about contraception he said the same thing
30:13
with that too so that's contraception your kids
30:16
to ninety
30:18
five percent of americans support interracial
30:20
marriage dan just i'd never thought we'd have to bring up
30:22
that number sum of all for
30:24
just ninety five percent of people supports
30:27
interracial marriage seventy eight
30:29
percent support birth control access
30:31
to fucking birth control and this country's
30:34
armed and you know marcus a stern
30:36
at slate point something else out with sort of
30:38
got lost in the hearings john cornyn
30:40
during the hearing when after all burgers
30:43
which is the decision that legalizes same
30:45
sex marriage in this country and
30:48
less you think that because oberg for
30:50
was decided in twenty fifteen that republicans have given
30:53
up on attacking same sex
30:55
marriage not
30:57
so not so because john cornyn
30:59
during the hearing started going after oberg a
31:01
felon basically let them know that yeah that's
31:03
that's what they want their justices to do that's what
31:05
they want conservative justice to do is under his to
31:08
overturn
31:09
oh burger fell and that's seventy five
31:11
per cent support for gay marriage in this
31:13
you know i
31:16
wouldn't expect to hear all that this week especially of
31:19
my brand talk about interracial marriage where you
31:21
were it's what is debris more surprised
31:24
by that
31:25
someone named mike brown said that are that
31:27
there was some one day my brontosaurus necessary
31:32
i do not agree i agree with senator from indiana
31:34
apparently i guess apparently sorry us what
31:37
, mean it's he made of he made a lame
31:39
attempt to clean up the statement later on which you
31:42
all heard at eyes are
31:44
you know we played the clip we didn't have the club originally
31:47
i'm like you know what he tried to clean up
31:49
let's make sure everyone can hear it does that barry was
31:51
right there right don't think that was that are
31:53
they that was of was mistake or that
31:55
mistake or it was a yes or no question
31:57
he answered yes there is no it
32:02
i mean i think there is something to
32:04
be taken from this it connects
32:06
to the earlier discussion about how
32:09
the republicans have been trying to weaponize
32:11
race and class and what i was
32:13
most struck by other than a
32:16
city united set of the united center so he
32:18
be okay with states banning interracial marriage
32:21
is there's almost no democrats talked about the
32:25
came and went the and yeah
32:28
i i you
32:30
know you have the scottish on the you know there's nothing
32:33
i fucking hate more that the people who have never
32:35
worked in politics suitors have access to twitter
32:37
who constantly does yell about democrats doing more
32:39
it's quite hard or do more
32:42
have more press conferences those people the
32:45
old a have no idea what is that type the
32:47
decisions
32:48
politicians have to make them how hard you just get your message out
32:50
and they never sort of account for the
32:52
democratic messaging disadvantage
32:54
or that there's no one person in charge of the party
32:57
but this this of those situations where democrats
32:59
should have done the guys why
33:02
is as much as wine statement
33:05
by one random senator who discovered existed
33:07
twenty four hours ago
33:09
what he's this is essentially the truth
33:11
the underbelly of the entire
33:14
republican message the republican
33:16
messages make america great again it is a
33:19
restorative message is that the
33:21
argument is that america
33:24
is getting more diverse it's change we are
33:26
heading towards able to racial democracies
33:28
and that multiracial democracy is bad
33:31
for you like
33:33
and so we're going to return to the period before
33:35
that before voting rights before so rights before
33:38
the supreme court legalized interracial
33:40
marriage and when people your
33:42
opponent's tell you something that is supported by
33:44
five percent of the countries that is poor
33:47
to their message you have to share
33:49
with them over them fucking heads on impulse
33:51
yes there was there was going on there were
33:53
none of confirmation or supreme court justice
33:56
ukraine gas prices everyone
33:58
saying tacos or but that's but i then
34:00
there's his learned
34:01
hopelessness among democrats that is
34:04
if the topic is race
34:06
crime it's an automatic loser for a so we
34:08
have to immediately ignore it let the pitch
34:10
go by and try to get on a more favorable territories
34:13
and we know republicans because
34:15
of their messaging our dictate the terms of conversation
34:18
in put a preposition america us so we
34:20
have to figure out how to take those issues on and
34:22
win them and then be able to move to more favorable
34:24
to rate and sofa votes republican just
34:26
imagine for a second the she was on other sites
34:29
and a democrat said something like that imagine
34:31
what the republicans when adults what fox would have
34:33
died third and statements on the floor the senate
34:35
the tweets air and there was nothing
34:38
lots of democratic activists talked about
34:40
it's i'm a bit of democratic groups pushed
34:42
it bites the official establishment
34:44
democratic party with this pitch go by and
34:46
or them and he teaches left until twenty twenty two
34:50
the into the the problem is some
34:52
democrats tree all
34:55
of these cultural or issues the
34:57
same they may believe
34:59
that they are all
35:01
the advice is and that we shouldn't talk
35:03
about them because in some sometimes it's unpopular
35:05
and look there are some positions
35:08
that we hold his democrats on
35:10
cultural and racial issues that
35:14
aren't as popular but we hold them
35:16
because it's the right thing to do and that's
35:18
our values and we believe in them and good for
35:20
us this what
35:22
what we saw this week
35:24
the republicans going after interracial
35:27
marriage gay marriage birth control
35:30
that is not something anyone needs to be afraid
35:32
of that is something the democrats should be shouting
35:34
from the rooftops ninety five
35:36
percent support seventy five percent supports
35:39
eighty percent support these are issues
35:41
that we are on the right this is issue that splits
35:43
the republican party right this unites
35:46
democrats this is seventy
35:48
eighty percent ninety percent support among independents
35:51
and probably half repub half a republican
35:53
voters believe these things to and
35:56
democrats should absolutely march away from
35:58
these hearings been like we saw this week that republicans
36:01
told the country that of a return to power they
36:03
want to go after interracial marriage they were to
36:05
go after gay marriage they want to go after your
36:07
contraception that's the kind of judicial system
36:09
that they want in this country you
36:12
know it if you're not doing that what are you doing the
36:17
maybe they will maybe they will it's just been a week
36:19
ah let's talk about what else democrats can do to
36:21
respond to these lines of attack at of the midterms
36:24
the national republican congressional committee lead
36:26
to an internal pulled the political this week that showed republicans
36:28
ahead on the generic ballot by four
36:30
points and seventy seven competitive districts
36:33
the joe biden one by an average of five
36:35
point five points twenty twenty
36:38
seventy five percent of voters in his district say that democrats
36:40
are caught out of touch or condescending and
36:42
those who identify the economy or inflation
36:44
as their top concern support republicans
36:46
by over twenty point the
36:49
internal nrcc paul so obviously
36:51
to be taken with a huge grain of salt
36:53
but you're decouple see chair
36:55
sean patrick maloney and the democratic candidates
36:58
in those districts how if
37:00
at all does what you heard this week from those republican
37:02
senators
37:03
change or shape your campaign going forward
37:05
it is yet another argument for why
37:08
making this election more of a choice
37:10
and less of a referendum is too hard for matic
37:12
is at it's republicans have unpopular
37:14
positions they are obsessed with cultural issues
37:16
that are massively detached from the huge challenges
37:19
that american families are facing instead of worrying
37:21
about gas prices are the costs of things at the grocery
37:23
stores they are focused on policing
37:25
kids box overturn a getting
37:27
rid of gay marriage deciding who marries
37:30
who write gay marriage and or a summer's
37:32
we have to go on office
37:35
and that that may not
37:37
be enough this is a brutal political
37:40
why it sure as hell better than
37:43
what it is has been happening so we have to go on offense
37:45
we have to attack the republicans we have
37:47
to do it with a unified voice with a singular
37:50
message we have to do is where
37:52
there is no were running we're not running local campaigns
37:55
are not this isn't the to do this is generic
37:57
democratic it's you know if republicans people
37:59
actually
38:00
like generic democrat better generic republicans they
38:02
really like generic democratic policies that are generic
38:04
republicans and so let's go
38:06
have the argue yeah
38:09
it's actually a lot more simple than
38:11
people may get to beat me to remind
38:13
people of their extreme positions and remind
38:15
them they will turn those positions into laws if they
38:17
were these are extreme
38:20
right wing culture warriors the
38:23
will fuck with your life if they when
38:25
they will fuck with ah they will fuck with
38:27
you over who you are
38:29
well you love who you marry what
38:31
you look like what you do with your own body
38:33
what kind of healthcare you can get how easy
38:36
it is for you to vote whether your vote will even
38:38
count they will not take care of you they will not
38:40
protect you about
38:43
themselves themselves themselves
38:46
a of themselves as
38:48
a you're upset
38:50
the country things aren't going well understandable
38:53
this is the alternative they have
38:55
offered this pretty
38:58
clear message
38:59
the messages it could be worse
39:02
ssssss , i
39:05
mean do we wanna be on earth is everywhere
39:07
said deal with this viewers yes
39:10
yeah there's also a number of
39:12
wonderful policies the democrats have that
39:14
if only we had a couple more democratic
39:17
senators would make a huge difference
39:19
in people's lives for three other that's
39:21
the other messages well we had a lot of good
39:23
stuff other than the german
39:25
speakers and cinnamon fucking with that he give us to
39:27
more senators we could actually passed
39:29
into law so that's that's the other side your your
39:31
bumper stickers it could be worse in fifty two
39:33
is the new system has affected
39:36
us i when we come back
39:38
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today brooklyn the
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curators of comfort
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right now president biden as in europe for a series
44:51
of critical meetings were allies to discuss the russian
44:54
invasion of ukraine which is now entering it's
44:56
second month journey me now to discuss
44:58
by the strip of states berman counselor their choice
45:00
derek walcott deposit america he is
45:02
great we really agree to be off with the pod here
45:05
absolutely
45:06
the there can you let's start with the series
45:08
these this high profile series of meetings the president
45:11
is doing whatever he and the emission
45:13
from an accomplice abroad on this trip
45:16
sure a day and well today it's
45:18
been months since russia's
45:20
invasion of ukraine began
45:23
of course every day we see new images
45:25
of brutality and and terrible
45:28
things happening in you preach is so this was
45:30
a special nato summit normally as you know
45:33
the senate's take months and months and months
45:35
to prepare but this
45:37
is something that was not planned a month ago this
45:39
is just put together just really in the last
45:41
week and so it's opportunity the
45:44
president biden to be in
45:46
brussels with twenty nine other a
45:48
nato leaders and it also he's gonna
45:50
be seen meters of the g seven as
45:52
well as the european union so
45:55
really over the twenty four hour span here
45:57
this is a an opportunity for the president
45:59
said the signals with all of
46:01
our important partners who is
46:03
all be contributing to this effort to support
46:06
ukraine and punish russia but
46:08
also to chart a way ahead on some of
46:10
the things that were worried about happening
46:12
in the future we're going
46:14
those use as we sort of look at what's happening
46:17
they're sort of like two things that i think are true
46:19
with the same time one is anyone who works if the
46:21
sanctions that input into to put
46:23
into date by the u s nato
46:26
all of our partners that been very damaging
46:28
to the russian economy is to the oligarchs
46:31
who fun prudence efforts yet
46:33
at the same time it does not seem to
46:35
have stopped certainly not up the basin or even
46:37
it's really him the and some of the atrocious
46:40
and horrendous things that's ah
46:42
been present a prudent is doing in
46:45
you can other more levers the president wants
46:47
support as or thinks he's trying to get his allies
46:49
to agree to hear that were put additional pressure
46:51
on russia sure well
46:53
there's there's more sanctions that
46:56
are being outlined right now and effectiveness
46:58
today the president outlined
47:00
another three hundred some russian
47:02
individuals members of the duma other government
47:04
leaders
47:05
that united states gonna be sanctioning as well
47:08
as other defense entities as we
47:10
continue to though
47:12
it the various pieces of the russian economy
47:14
to fueling this conflict and also enabling
47:17
punto to stay in power on at
47:20
the same time the europeans are also going to
47:22
be putting additional sanctions on
47:24
which is particularly meaningful because the
47:26
extent of europe's economic relationship
47:29
with russia which is much larger
47:31
than the u s or relationship and
47:34
also importantly and this and this the presents
47:36
gonna be talking about with european union leadership
47:38
is working with europe on their
47:41
own energy independence because the area
47:43
where europe and russia have deepest
47:45
a relationship is on energy and
47:47
so europe gets a good
47:50
chunk of it's energy supplies from russia as
47:52
for many years so that is a point of
47:54
leverage that russia has over europe
47:56
europe is nevertheless move forward on
47:58
sanctions media which surprised
48:00
a lot of folks about the degree
48:03
of which europe was willing to go forward and meaningful
48:05
sanctions against russia and they're willing to do more
48:07
but apparently we're to talk to them about ways we can we
48:09
the united states can help european partners
48:12
become more energy independence
48:14
or less reliant on rush
48:16
that's more of a long term strategy to deal
48:18
with russia's influence of the recent correct yeah maybe
48:20
there's some short term things we can do to help
48:22
bridge you have these remaining
48:24
cold months to get to the summer and fall
48:28
but yes this is something that you're not going
48:30
to be able to wean europe
48:32
off russian energy and a matter of months
48:34
he gets could take years to do that
48:37
is there another important aspect
48:39
of this trip data do with the refugee crisis
48:41
in europe since i'm in prison by an intense to
48:44
address the reports today that united
48:46
states is super to accept that upwards of one hundred
48:48
thousand the ukrainian refugees
48:50
and make a significant resource commitment
48:53
to the region what can you tell us about that's
48:55
so in your i mean this is the largest
48:57
refugee crisis be seen in europe since
48:59
the second world war
49:01
there are more than three million folks who
49:04
left ukraine and and there's
49:06
than more than double that displaced
49:09
within ukraine so up at
49:11
this point about a quarter of ukraine's population
49:14
is displaced and what that means is that they have less
49:16
their home so they are either somewhere else in ukraine
49:19
seeking seeking shelter they have crossed the border
49:21
and become refugees on
49:24
, the brunt of that is being a
49:26
bore bind the polls and so the polls
49:29
right now have over two million refugees
49:31
from ukraine that's why prison biden
49:33
will be going to to meet most
49:35
of these refugees over the weekend and and also
49:37
meet with the polish government because
49:40
the polish government and or people are sacrificing
49:42
a huge amount so united states
49:44
we gotta do our part and so for that is
49:47
with the presence announced with that we'd be willing to
49:49
take up to one hundred thousand ukrainian refugees
49:52
are that's a significant number of units that
49:54
doesn't ever itself is more than refugees
49:58
all around the world that we take the year
50:00
annually on know
50:02
it is unclear frankly honey it is refugees
50:05
would want to come to united states at this point i mean
50:07
i think a lot the folks who let
50:10
ukraine because of the war that
50:12
they want to go back once the were in some big
50:14
since they want to go back to their own and so oh
50:17
but with nevertheless are willing to take up to
50:19
one hundred thousand and i think that's that's
50:21
the least we can do right now given the magnitude of this
50:26
another element of this is it i know is on the
50:28
agenda for dominion to go with nato
50:30
is the potential for russian cyber
50:32
attacks on us or nato partners ah
50:35
pniewska advisor jake sullivan talk more about this
50:37
the other day or what he tells her
50:39
with the united states is doing to prepare
50:42
for such attacks ads what
50:44
how we're seeking or with the discussions are
50:46
happy with our allies but what a response
50:48
to those attacks would look like sure on
50:52
obviously we've been worry about russian cyber attacks
50:54
for quite some time the preceding
50:56
this crisis and we've been the victim we're united
50:58
states have arrested cyberattacks of well as several
51:00
years or so
51:03
part of what we try to do is do is our resilience
51:05
and make sure that particularly
51:08
critical infrastructure is
51:10
protected as best we can are also the
51:12
us government these and we have information are getting
51:15
information out to industry and
51:17
to produce particularly those who would
51:19
be most vulnerable to arrest and cyberattacks
51:21
trying to build awareness among the american people
51:24
as well and so that's why glad you asked
51:26
me about it because i think you're
51:28
all of us ah could be victimized
51:30
by russian cyber attack in some shape or another
51:32
and so ah although we
51:34
haven't seen a silly evidence that one is moving
51:37
and we have to be vigilant and ready for one
51:40
arm , then also we've been very
51:42
clear to the russians that that
51:44
that would cross the line ah and
51:47
or your present biden when he was with
51:49
them up by to recoup last
51:51
summer in geneva when they had a summit meeting there
51:54
and it was shortly after the colonial pipeline
51:56
attack which , off
51:58
liner and the pipeline and
52:00
it was it was it was attributed
52:03
to to criminal network not
52:05
necessarily the back by the russian government
52:07
but yeah president present vine
52:09
said the president potent in the wake of
52:11
that lucky got a crackdown on these guys go do
52:13
something about this because you know you're gonna lie and
52:15
you pipeline soon where
52:17
would it would be pretty easy for us some
52:19
of those went offline though
52:22
i you know i think we're the
52:24
good news is we haven't seen evidence of that yet
52:26
the bad news with we have to be ready for it
52:28
and be vigilant in case one of those attacks were
52:30
to happen it's something for by talked
52:32
about with nato allies the
52:35
my years of going back and forth the nato
52:37
meetings and it's it's been an ongoing discussion
52:39
at nato for many years about what the alliance
52:41
conducive working with other countries
52:44
try to deter those attacks to then also
52:46
responded the thing will occur
52:49
yesterday secretary blinken reaffirmed
52:52
a statement of the president by did made ah
52:55
recently up are suggesting that
52:57
the russians had engaged in war crimes and
52:59
this was surgically can made a more formal
53:02
detail presentation of that
53:04
case can use what is the sort
53:06
of substantive legal value of
53:08
that and where is it go from here sure
53:10
well it it he said in that hope
53:13
last week the president and secretary
53:15
of state
53:16
they're did in their opinion they
53:18
work on to being committed inside ukraine
53:20
and we just needed it's use our own
53:22
eyes to see that happening with our is
53:24
hospital getting bombed the right shelters
53:27
that are clearly identified with children and and
53:29
being bombed us it's it is a war crime
53:31
to intentionally target civilian
53:33
areas and that is that is happening so
53:36
what was announced the other day you're at the state
53:38
department was the conclusion
53:40
of some evidentiary work that has done some
53:43
some research and gathering of the
53:45
data that couldn't could conclusively
53:47
say that were grinds had been committed
53:49
now there's various legal process
53:51
is underway and international community there is an international
53:54
criminal court which forced united states
53:56
is not part of but we can contribute
54:00
the didn't do it it it accent cases
54:02
are are , come
54:04
forward and so what
54:06
are the reasons why we did it yesterday is to make clear
54:08
that clear this that a and there's an evidentiary
54:11
basis for it the beaters
54:13
don't need to be accountable it
54:15
actually interesting the sweetest little off topic
54:17
but on monday of this week secretary blinken
54:19
with the holocaust museum here in washington
54:22
and announced a
54:24
conclusion that he had made the seats formatted
54:26
made formatted genocide had occurred in
54:29
burma ah several years ago
54:31
and that's something that's something that's of research and time
54:33
to come to that conclusion and
54:35
even though the these crimes that those crimes were committed
54:37
several years ago it was important for
54:39
us here today for years later to
54:42
talk about it if the show that that
54:44
we are watching and if there's accountability and
54:46
so that's part of what we wanted to make this announcement
54:49
yesterday that has been assertive process that
54:51
the us will be part of international community
54:53
to ensure that there's accountability for the
54:55
actions that are taking place today and ukraine dumb
54:58
so just so
55:00
the gonna do get on the suspects because
55:02
the us is not apart like russia not
55:04
a part of the international criminal courts the
55:07
if another country where a good for
55:09
maybe this is part of plan where to make
55:11
a findings to that court with us
55:14
would supply evident does he have it in akron for you
55:16
can we can provide information for
55:18
it it is for that case in
55:20
in so that's part of what we what we're
55:23
started do and it when the invasion started you put together
55:25
a team here in the us government to
55:27
to a crew the evidence and
55:29
sort of keep an eye on everything and he
55:31
said we had information that could corroborate
55:34
anything that were sitting on with
55:36
our own eyes me that's when it's remarkable that this war
55:38
is so much of it is unfolding
55:40
right unfolding front of us in real time either
55:43
from citizen journalists on the ground or
55:45
or the in an all of journalists we got the
55:47
out there in the field so this
55:50
was just the formal evidentiary basis
55:52
of of the war crimes
55:54
i know another topic of discussion among
55:56
the u s and in our allies over the course of
55:58
this twenty four hour period is about the potential
56:01
for russia to use weapons of
56:03
mass destruction there have been some concerns
56:06
, about the potential for using chemical
56:08
weapons and even nuclear weapons
56:10
and attacked attacked pretty disturbing reports
56:13
in a recent they are so that suggested that's
56:16
us military officials were unable to
56:18
get russian officials on the phone
56:21
to have conversations that may seem weird
56:23
to folks malik wow these are these phone busts
56:25
even in the height of the cold war find those
56:28
ten was very important keep those back channels
56:30
open so that no one misunderstood
56:32
something exact one had entered the
56:34
world and another was another accident occurred
56:37
yes exactly is earth
56:39
what is the level of concern about that are there other
56:41
back channels were unaware of were just communications
56:43
happenings that that are more
56:46
in the normal course of business here you
56:48
know what our flat what was the conversation like
56:50
about this concern so we
56:52
are very concerned about it in one of the reasons why
56:54
we're concerned is russes talking a lot
56:56
about it in as we've seen in
56:58
their playbook the to linda
57:01
the third that the ukraine is using
57:03
chemical weapons or ukraine and the us
57:05
are are creating chemical
57:07
weapons on their own the bio lab can scare
57:09
off for a wholly bogus right
57:11
and this is this is right out of their playbook but
57:13
that's increase a pretext or justification
57:15
in their minds the use of such weapons
57:18
so we haven't seen indications
57:20
that they're preparing for that however we are
57:22
hearing them say publicly and
57:25
, concerns about ukraine chemical
57:27
weapons which again is completely bogus
57:29
ah so that's why we need to be
57:31
vigilant about be vigilant it's
57:35
one of the things the president biden talked
57:37
about today at nato
57:39
and with other european leaders about
57:43
erie canal about their concerns with in also thinking
57:45
about what we may they do and response
57:47
or how we could how we could best prepare for that it actually
57:50
nato made some decisions today i
57:52
think i need was a military alliance and so
57:54
forth are nato military to coordinate
57:57
in response options
58:00
in terms of how if if if
58:02
god forbid a chemical weapon use there
58:04
could be a real danger to european countries
58:06
with you know plumes
58:08
of chemical weapons materials you know flowing
58:10
across borders about how we can best
58:12
defend ourselves from
58:15
the last question i know another huge
58:18
priority sector a blink end in the by
58:20
demonstration is trying to ah
58:22
reconstitute the nuclear agreement
58:24
with iran's what is happening in russia
58:27
the credit and complications are they really could tell me
58:30
about progress you're amazing and how you're navigating
58:32
the situation that russia is a poor was a part of the original
58:34
agreement plays an important role in
58:36
what a new agreement would look like yeah so
58:39
russia has been part of the of the
58:41
process going back to the original ran
58:43
agreement negotiated the obama administration
58:46
ah , for the negotiations with the iranians
58:48
to to curb their their nuclear
58:51
program program up until this
58:53
crisis up until the invasion they had they
58:56
a relatively constructive part
58:58
of those negotiations are they were throwing
59:00
up roadblocks or anything ah we
59:03
we hit a wrinkle a few weeks ago with
59:05
weeks but ah i
59:07
think it's that could be ironed out the we have we're
59:09
still not an agreement yes with a
59:11
return to that exists or called the jcp way
59:14
that the iran nuclear deal on
59:16
i think our perspective is dan first
59:19
that the policy that we inherited the policy
59:21
policy last several years now so
59:23
called maxim pressure against iran has not worked
59:25
at all it's made a runs program were dangerous
59:28
nuclear program more dangerous and it's made iran
59:30
and were dangerous actor or throughout
59:32
the middle east on so
59:34
we believe the getting back to the jcp away
59:36
with puts iran's nuclear program in program box
59:39
is the best way for i think particularly
59:41
given the moment where in where we were just talking
59:44
about the possible use a wmd in ukraine
59:46
the last thing we need is another nuclear crisis
59:49
in the world happen simultaneously so
59:51
we're not there yet it a deal on now i don't
59:53
know whether we will i be able to finish
59:56
the deal with the iranians because we still
59:58
have some details the to thing around
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for your weekend from nbc first read quote
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when donald trump travels to georgia the sunday for his
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latest rally he'll arrive in his weakest political
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position in months within his own
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party here's why in
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georgia poll showed the trump back
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david perdue trailing gov brian camp
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despite trump appearing in multiple purdue
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ads in missouri trump is now
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hinting that he may end his flirtation with endorsing
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eric great and after court filings
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revealed the former governors ex wife accused
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him of physically abusing her and
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their three year old son to the point where she
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slept in the child's room to protect i
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couldn't revolting arm and an alabama
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the former president made some news this week when he rescinded
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his endorsement of alabama senate candidate mo brooks
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because brooks' badly trailing his opponents
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but obviously from needed to concoct a better reason
1:05:21
than that so he released a statement saying
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that brooks who famously
1:05:26
urged january sixth rally going
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to quote start taking down names and
1:05:30
kicking ass have and
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trump's words the on woke
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them what's trump's evidence for moberg going
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woke
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this is probably my favorite stories
1:05:43
and months because
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most rocks at rocks at fat i
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am or now not as you look at the on
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the news we've been getting on thursday for while here
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have been referred to as my favorite
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thursday story there been a lot other good stories
1:05:56
but you know brooks is a
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fucking lunatic the place
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insane stupid things
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twenty four seven he
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says wine saying
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that is not insane and that is the donald
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trump there is not be legal authority to re
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in state donald trump and remove joe
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biden from the white house right here and
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now he says out one thing
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and to huddle dropped calls and woke in
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out and or system to discuss fucking
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nothing has ever better explained
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the state of the trouble republican party than
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that say one thing and
1:06:32
you are on the else it's a fucking
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great did you did you read the interview that moberg
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the day when he talked about this there was that that
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when trump was with him it was around labor
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day that last year in september
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and then he basically tells brooks
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i want you to rescind the twenty
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twenty election
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the and hold a special election in emergency
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like us to put me back in the white house get your
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by malevich and much he get more brooks
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one of the craziest fucking memorising congress
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be like whoa whoa whoa i
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, am i am just a i'm just
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a country lawyer lawyer i'd
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nazis i have the power to reasons
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to be trusted with
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that
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oh it's so good it's
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so good the
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i know we talking about trump's endorsement effect on other
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senate races last week but what do you think about how much
1:07:21
it matters in these three states georgia alabama
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in missouri
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apparently doesn't matter very much at all the
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medicare is alabama right
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he can not help know brooks even
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be arm of rough sweat walk on him ah
1:07:34
in georgia his candidate his candidate herschel walker
1:07:36
his senate and is doing very well but or torture walker
1:07:38
does not need donald trump's to be doing well i
1:07:41
mean there is real evidence
1:07:43
that
1:07:45
current support is not worth as much as everyone
1:07:47
assumed it was now that does it mean that
1:07:49
trump's active opposition might
1:07:51
be might not be very damaging
1:07:53
to people by simply
1:07:55
having donald trump indoor issue is not
1:07:58
the golden ticket to
1:08:00
congress fit at what potentially was a few years ago
1:08:02
that a chance for
1:08:05
the who's one more notable trump story
1:08:07
are we should talk about the broke late wednesday night
1:08:09
in the new york times this one is much more frustrating
1:08:12
than anything else
1:08:14
remember when the times reported last month it manhattan
1:08:16
district attorney alvin bragg had decided
1:08:18
to stop pursuing a criminal indictment against
1:08:21
trump for his corrupt business dealings well
1:08:24
the time to get a copy of the resignation
1:08:26
letter submitted by one of the top prosecutors
1:08:28
in the case mark pomeranz who
1:08:31
wrote in the letter that he believed
1:08:33
the former president was quote guilty
1:08:36
of numerous felony violation there
1:08:38
was enough evidence to prove from good
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beyond a reasonable doubt that
1:08:43
it with a quote grave failure of
1:08:45
justice for bragg not to hold
1:08:48
them accountable and move forward the indictment what
1:08:50
was your reaction to that story
1:08:53
why does as you read it was like scott
1:08:55
how to the time stumble on the resignation
1:08:57
letter to they find it in mark from ours is trash
1:09:00
it's watch isn't just say the mark palmer
1:09:02
is gave it to warm up act which if
1:09:04
he has every right to do and i'm glad he thought he
1:09:06
did six like you're not
1:09:08
woodward and bernstein getting something from dethrone
1:09:10
the parking lot russia six it's if likes of the
1:09:12
he emailed it to you know or , you
1:09:14
might have a he medical just read out the letter i know if
1:09:17
you what are they should just put it on a note that
1:09:19
but he never know he'd have a million twitter
1:09:21
followers right because the class that he would have
1:09:23
if he adjusts and runs at the time flies
1:09:25
be would be like occupy democrats
1:09:28
democrats see if you say that it's
1:09:32
say lot of a i just lot
1:09:34
envision people staring
1:09:36
at the supreme court and watching me personally
1:09:38
eagles fly head and city gets gonna
1:09:41
lie ahead of it gonna lie turns he goes right away with
1:09:43
your suppose i was as a rule pulled
1:09:45
up at the last minute there i
1:09:49
one did we learn from the story that with okay vegas
1:09:51
news the cyrus
1:09:53
vance the last year right
1:09:55
before he left office had in fact decided
1:09:58
to pursue a criminal indictment of donald it
1:10:01
was going to happen and then fuck and alvin bragged to
1:10:03
go over and backed off well what's going
1:10:05
on that like you know more about why
1:10:07
that happens library
1:10:09
bag of the i mean it
1:10:11
seems like if you're reading the it when you
1:10:13
when i read the story couple times try to figure
1:10:15
this out
1:10:16
it seemed like what they had decided to move forward
1:10:19
with it the case they thought was going to be the easiest
1:10:21
to prove his that trump had falsified
1:10:23
his business records
1:10:25
the prosecutors pomerantz and
1:10:27
or his partner both
1:10:30
believed that there was enough evidence
1:10:32
to prove that trump had knowingly falsify the
1:10:34
records it seems like bragg the
1:10:36
yes the records were were false but
1:10:39
that maybe it would be harder to prove that trump
1:10:41
new they were false or the
1:10:43
new at which you know clue the prosecutors
1:10:45
disagree now look in these cases
1:10:47
prosecutors disagree with their supervises all the
1:10:49
time sometimes supervisors don't bring a case
1:10:51
that prosecutors very much want them to bring it
1:10:54
very much out of school for than for than
1:10:56
to go out and
1:10:58
publicized the fact that they thought that someone was
1:11:00
guilty that they were going to charge without charging
1:11:02
them like you wouldn't want that to happen in many
1:11:04
cases exclusive say i
1:11:06
noted donald trump so we stay whatever but
1:11:08
like that's not that's normal practice but
1:11:11
it does also suggests that like brags
1:11:14
official line right now is oh we're continuing
1:11:16
investigation if you really
1:11:18
have continued investigation and there might be a chance
1:11:20
that he dates from
1:11:22
then pomeranz putting that letter out
1:11:24
actually harms that investigation
1:11:27
which makes you think that pomeranz released a letter
1:11:30
because he actually knows that bragg
1:11:32
is never going to bring the charge against
1:11:36
suck dan actually
1:11:38
, waiting so long
1:11:41
wayne for that piece regal to it's not even an impeachment
1:11:43
eagle that he didn't i visited sabadell we've
1:11:45
been doing this for so long i said it is yes
1:11:48
it is evolves into the indictment eagle
1:11:50
three sisters sort of tie this
1:11:53
in a bow ah
1:11:55
as as poker sir should citizens
1:11:58
visit it seems
1:12:00
at least somewhat adjacent to the fact of
1:12:02
the republicans are running around using
1:12:04
democrats are being soft on crime when their so's
1:12:06
in this party leader the person who
1:12:09
holds fundraisers for them who attends rally
1:12:11
for that's who they are willing to
1:12:13
storm the capital for is a
1:12:15
fucking criminal
1:12:17
elemental city other being
1:12:19
a trump enabling republic it means you
1:12:21
are soft on crime
1:12:24
right and yeah seems like of point we could
1:12:26
point out at some point addition to
1:12:28
yelling fund the place of the top of our lungs
1:12:30
we could point out of the republican party has been
1:12:32
helping their leader avoid
1:12:35
criminal prosecution for years
1:12:39
yeah they love they love crime when
1:12:41
it's one of the when it's
1:12:43
one of their own when it when it's when it's committed
1:12:45
by a powerful republican
1:12:48
whatever putting a white and white collar crime
1:12:51
the surface
1:12:53
i read cute top that yeah
1:12:56
about that thank you to they're actually
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