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breaking news and i don't

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think we can use this say are you said

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his parents were targeted at it this it this

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at we a nice big at all

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pregnant

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the didn't monday afternoon him and allowed to in

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and four pm pacific sister hampshire

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as you're hearing this tuesday morning but just

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minutes ago before we walked into

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the studio

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we got word that the spss

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is searched moral aga the

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reason we got word of that is because there

3:14

were some reporter from florida who couldn't quite

3:16

confirm it mm donald trump confirmed

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it via state with a long statement

3:21

as is are reporting on want to get some highlights of the

3:23

same reporter from said i'm

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hearing reports that marla doesn't rated but

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i'm not a strong enough to confirm it and

3:30

see anybody do that before i really respect their humility

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is that that has been killed in this instance and

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he knew die cut that out there and then trump

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got a out and he said that they've even know

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they've even even into his city syria

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doing they got his i catch abstained porn us

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by with read about on else see i

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mention wings mention mean you probably all know by know

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but bullets were bullets were

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in this and surprise territory right here where

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your as you're listening to us i mean the just

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as is mad they broke into citizens

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that hillary clinton still furniture from

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the white house decades ago as if apparently

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has hillary never had a run in with the of the i i'm

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that's about it pretty remarkable although you

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know or friend of mine are met the pope

4:13

pass on twitter amy

4:16

, he avoid that to

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get a search warrant what it means

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is that is a to get a federal search a

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federal agent submit an affidavit under oath

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to a federal magistrate judge ah

4:27

setting what they want to search for what items

4:29

and what probable cause there is odd

4:31

that of probably federal crime

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then a magistrate tends to require

4:36

thorough specifics well documented

4:39

applications to prove it and

4:41

then you can get the search warrant so someone thinks

4:44

there's something there the criminal justice

4:46

system is

4:48

physically this physically this you get from us at this

4:50

moment we could spend the next half hour

4:52

just reading takes on twitter it's main

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lies is just happening i was feel by

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tomorrow right now be fun are

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there is a piece of me the wonders if this is specific

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to the classified material

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that how he was just had sitting in boxes because i gotta

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be something that can be sometimes seems like something

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you'd rate again this will date itself poorly

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probably this got me a yeah maybe but like

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you know we the american girl and a lotta shit but he's eating

5:13

some he's definitely a taken his legal bluetooth

5:16

and he's getting yeah

5:18

and he's he's up i this is the dark

5:20

brand and lose this is going to take them up to a new level

5:22

how blinds that has some bills trump's passing

5:24

of the agent in the hallway and on yeah

5:29

a little giddy okay

5:31

well as he got them the people we ought to anyway

5:33

we'll talk about everything else great everyone

5:36

continue to monitor a huge your

5:38

monitor twitter meanwhile is determined to have to do like millennia

5:40

shoe brand or something yeah yeah right

5:43

other news on sunday the

5:45

senate passed the inflation reduction act of twenty

5:47

twenty two a bill that will do more to fight change

5:49

than any action by the us government

5:52

and history will allow medicare to negotiate

5:54

for more affordable prescription drugs for the first time

5:56

in history it will prevent health insurance premium

5:58

increases for people who get coverage through

6:00

the affordable care act to reduce the deficit

6:03

and will pay it all cracking down

6:05

on rich people who cheat on their taxes and billion dollar corporations

6:08

the don't pay any the final a

6:10

fifty fifty split the required vice president

6:13

kamala harris to break the tie came

6:15

after a few days of last minute negotiations with

6:17

pearson cinema and republican antics

6:19

that almost derailed the bill multiple times

6:21

but it's done it's to pass

6:24

the house later this week and then had to president

6:26

biden desk or he will sign

6:28

it into about

6:30

that cause i know we talked through most

6:32

of the provisions in the initial mansion schumer deal

6:35

on last week's episode but

6:37

sorry both feeling about the yeah the final

6:39

prada the sum it

6:42

is surprising feeling that it dot i

6:45

didn't completely collapse right we were like once

6:47

again presented with a mansion compromise

6:49

it's impossible and then we were

6:52

waiting see what cinema would do obviously cinema

6:54

did require that it be worse

6:56

ah answer that's the deal she

6:58

may that he passed private equity and the

7:00

devil but ah it largely

7:03

remained intact from what they announce their some of

7:05

their tax changes tax couple things ah

7:07

which

7:08

it's a bit it son

7:11

good

7:12

it's were around earnest

7:14

not as station around homicides

7:19

won't you may be required to give a reaction to

7:21

the behalf of the summit for lyme however

7:23

i don't know i bought a something better than come out with

7:27

get it of springs eternal just

7:29

you heard it here first folks as the analysis

7:32

the come for it's good the the

7:36

ones we when we heard the deal was announced that think we

7:38

were surprised by how good the climate provisions

7:40

were on the whole and how how much

7:42

of was indo back better was preserved

7:44

i think we were nervous about what would happen next you were

7:46

nervous about what cinema would do you were nervous

7:48

but would happen it hit a voter rama and

7:51

republicans were a bunch of amendments

7:53

that could could have derailed the whole thing i think it was

7:55

ah ah it's play a

7:57

pleasant surprise that democrats held together

7:59

and that cinema did

8:02

make some demands for

8:04

changes that mates in the tax provisions worse

8:06

but ultimately left the larger

8:08

structure of it and tax i think that

8:10

that's really positive and there's

8:13

plenty of criticisms that we can talk about and

8:15

we will talk about but like the fact

8:17

that we were able to get this done when a month ago

8:19

it dead it was dead a month

8:21

ago and then in a matter of days we find

8:23

out the deal and is now heading to

8:25

the house and likely to see in a bind to sign

8:28

i bet that is great

8:30

that is a great thing that this happened because

8:32

the was it not happening and

8:35

, of europe's people seem to forget

8:37

there goes that your baseline to zero two that's

8:39

kind of way we're coming from it's much like a

8:41

recovery act as built has really into three parts

8:44

long as a joke for four people are yeah

8:46

what to the right here and i target assistant professor

8:48

since the climate isn't

8:50

or it gives us eighty percent of the way to the pledge we

8:52

made at the paris climate accord so costs huge

8:54

step forward obviously rent the dot on but that's

8:57

a big deal i mean reduces at emissions

8:59

by forty percent below two months

9:01

as it doesn't side when we pete

9:03

not of the country as a bad year the

9:05

elevator i personally was getting

9:07

five was bread and jam divorce russell crowe through

9:09

a phone at the front desk hotel and then tom

9:11

cruise bounce on a couch oprah scouts while

9:13

i was two thousand and five ghana why would a year

9:16

early aughts sucked

9:17

what are you

9:18

that would it be commissioned was

9:20

i'd i don't over the government of people we've been

9:22

going on around that time and and

9:24

you know we this will help get hopefully

9:27

forty percent reduction we were our way probably

9:29

something like i've thirty already so it's

9:31

a it's a big forward on of

9:33

we're having and also i mean

9:35

the us is responsible for a huge chunk

9:37

of a missions through the industrial revolution

9:40

but per year it's about fifteen percent global missions

9:42

and so that means other countries are obvious going to make cuts

9:44

to get to where we need to go disinvestment

9:47

should lead to new technologies that we sell

9:49

or give to other countries and help them reduce

9:51

emissions and and the u s biden has that

9:53

the next cops and if clinton summit in egypt

9:56

and like three months and now we go and

9:58

say hey look we actually did something input

10:01

other country to do more to rush it enormous

10:03

and there's also like sixty billion dollars worth of money

10:05

for environmental justice provisions there's

10:08

there's some things you know that zoc the leasing's frustrating

10:10

abdus some things the will increase

10:12

fossil fuel use in the short term by

10:15

, think on balance renewables

10:18

will hopefully reduce demand

10:20

for fossil fuel the us government

10:22

spending four hundred billion dollars

10:25

to fight climate change is going to be transformative

10:28

and reason i know it's gonna be transformative is because a

10:30

bunch of independent experts people who do

10:32

this for a living who study this for living ran

10:34

the numbers and say that and they all kind of sound

10:36

same saying yeah you know the really winding

10:39

the like expert groups that are model you know like

10:42

you know i always i of course think we need

10:44

to do more i think everyone who pass the bill

10:46

knows that we need to do more but or he

10:48

said it wasn't a choice between more

10:52

, bill it was a choice between nothing

10:55

nothing amiss bill and this in

10:57

the reason we have this bill is because because

10:59

guy from or coast the donald

11:02

trump won by thirty points or

11:04

was willing to basically sign the for

11:07

the biggest industry in his state are

11:09

because this is gonna make clean energy

11:11

more profitable than fossil fuels even

11:13

it does help fossil fuels in the term unfortunately

11:16

but in the long term it's gonna make a clean

11:18

energy more profitable by dumping

11:20

all this money into the economy and

11:23

joe manchin was willing to go along with it state

11:25

senator that for know a state

11:27

that when for i point so that's pretty amazing

11:30

amazing have already made it was also you know that

11:32

the healthcare be assuming the prescription drugs pieces

11:34

huge it is it is just that

11:36

our own laws prevented medicare

11:38

from negotiating better drug prices for

11:40

prescription drugs but it did republicans

11:43

block of forever and now there could be able to slowly

11:45

start to think that a thing it's ten specifics

11:48

tbd and twenty specifics tbd that they can negotiate

11:51

for and will increase to twenty drugs

11:53

so style save us lot of money thirty

11:55

million will be able to not

11:57

see a premium increase of the get there healthcare

12:00

insurance through the a cia and then the

12:02

tax provisions i think are really interesting and

12:05

transformative than the fifteen present minimum tax

12:07

minutes excise on stock buybacks

12:10

on his ex estimated to raise seventy

12:12

three billion

12:14

or more over a decade yes a decent

12:16

people so you're so cinema demanded

12:18

that the remove this under move the provision

12:20

closing the carried interest new post as as a favorite

12:23

of private equity ah but in it's

12:25

stead they put this one percent the

12:27

facts on stock buybacks stock buybacks

12:29

or something were basically companies kind of enrich

12:32

themselves and by by their stock back

12:35

on and so and sense to me that

12:37

helps or share

12:39

or large shareholders are people that have you die your own

12:41

sox have a sewer shares outstanding to the price goes

12:43

up until it basically something that benefits

12:45

sent the wealthy people so they replaced

12:48

attacks that we really should fix

12:50

that benefit extremely wealthy people for a

12:52

different tax that will also tax really

12:55

wealthy people both should be in there we should be doing all

12:57

of them ah but i didn't see actually

12:59

ah lotta people reporting that that yeah this journey

13:01

but also have we incentivize actually investing

13:04

rd or topics like apple spent

13:06

ah over four hundred billion dollars

13:08

on stock buybacks over the last decade that's

13:10

nearly double with is spent on our double or capital expenditures

13:13

so hopefully this means they'll incentivized

13:15

to spend more money on things that create more jobs

13:17

see have so she helped the help

13:19

a hedge fund a folks with the carried

13:22

interest loophole

13:24

, held some private equity folks by by

13:27

them from the corporate minimum tax but

13:29

then she back in the stock buybacks vegas

13:31

with mark wonders idea yeah going back in the to

13:33

have to fill the hole that hole left

13:36

and she took out of stuff out see also by

13:38

the way more climate money for drought mitigation

13:40

in western states i billion a good thing that

13:42

hits and they're not the other thing

13:44

that changed from the initial deal

13:48

republican successfully killed a thirty

13:51

five dollar cap on insulin from

13:53

or per month since it didn't qualify

13:55

for reconciliation under the budget rules and

13:58

he didn't qualify democrats decided

14:00

to keep it in the bill anyway which then

14:03

would require sixty to not fifty

14:05

it didn't comply with reconciliation rules and

14:07

democrats got fifty seven they at seven republicans

14:10

on board but they needed three

14:12

more some people are like why didn't she

14:14

murmured just ignore the parliamentarian well

14:17

they did they put it in the

14:19

bill they needed sixty or otherwise

14:21

you can't just if is the only way you could

14:23

do that otherwise as if you ignore the proletarian but than

14:26

mentioned cinema have said if you ignore

14:28

the her in the room and ever the reason we can't

14:30

do it discusses same fucking mess we've been

14:32

in for years yet him same any

14:35

get the deck clever that clever what

14:37

we failed to do was kept out of pocket insulin

14:39

costs for people with private insurance rates dead

14:41

cap it for a medicare very good

14:43

points yeah and in similarly another

14:45

thing the parliamentarian did a democrats wanted

14:48

to require drug companies to pay rebates if

14:50

the price of medicine rise is faster than inflation

14:52

and they wanted this to cover patients under both

14:54

medicare private insurance parliamentarian

14:57

ruled it can only apply to medicare patients

15:00

are so the rebate goes to medicare patients to again

15:03

anything that affects the federal budget is

15:05

what is fair game and reconciliation that

15:07

goes to the private they have a harder

15:09

time passing through reconciliation unfortunately

15:12

bernie sanders not thrilled

15:14

with the final bill it even though he's still voted

15:16

for it and you know we saw we saw of progressive

15:18

activists share a similar on

15:21

twitter and what would you guys say

15:23

to people who might be disappointed by where we ended

15:25

up

15:26

when we view view looking for

15:28

he actually said in fall i'd be like

15:30

there were sort of two kinds

15:33

of criticisms that i saw was

15:36

you know bernie largely he criticized the fossil

15:38

fuel subsidies and the parts of not of this

15:40

of this that are i am will

15:43

do increasing and fair enough though

15:45

the line service criticism is basically saying which

15:47

between go back better there are a lot of really important

15:50

in better things there is both a policy critique a

15:52

political critique critique is that

15:54

these things that country needs things is inflation

15:56

is are incredibly high cost we ah

15:59

feelings the dress them up because

16:02

we lack two votes and he's

16:04

very frustrated by that and he just wanted to

16:06

make a kind of final plea for doing

16:08

the larger bill back better plan and fair

16:10

enough there was a really good stuff in that plant for pre k

16:12

for for our child

16:15

care for for health care across

16:17

the board ah there's then there's this

16:19

criticism on the climate versus ah

16:22

and the fact that this is a climate crisis

16:25

this is you know the biggest investment

16:27

in history but in reality

16:29

we haven't made very many investments in this in the past

16:31

and when you compare to other things we call

16:34

like the military ah it's still

16:36

a paltry amount compared to the scale of the crisis

16:38

and and and and fair

16:40

enough my view on this is yet

16:42

we should do more but was in built back better we

16:45

need more centers to do it and on

16:47

the question of these climate reasons themselves

16:50

looking at the climate proposals themselves

16:52

i actually think it's important that declare

16:55

a victory not the victory not

16:57

the final victory but after such

16:59

a long time i'm being unable to do anything you

17:01

want congress to do more absolutely congress

17:03

to do more in safety net absolutely on climate

17:05

absolutely but like i get saying they don't

17:08

go far enough of course we need to do more but

17:10

i do think it's important as a movement that we take moments

17:12

to kind of celebrate victory is to celebrate hard

17:14

fought

17:15

when that will make a difference like it's

17:17

we just no one wants to be part of a movement

17:20

where every every happy moment is

17:22

cringe and every victory as a secret loss

17:24

it's just not a to do politics

17:26

that brings more people in as persuasive

17:28

that makes people want to be part of your movement we should

17:30

declare a victory not the final

17:32

victory but a nonetheless this gonna say

17:35

the celebration is not about the job

17:37

being done the celebration is to

17:39

tell people that you can make progress and

17:41

to inspire people to continue making progress

17:43

because we can actually see the games

17:46

which is what this bill is doing right now we're actually seeing

17:48

real progress happens and that's why celebrate

17:50

you don't celebrate to say we did enough and that said

17:52

you can sweep the you like maggie new

17:54

album that not a criticism

17:56

of beyond a new album piece you didn't also

17:58

tweet about that

17:59

british

18:01

is it is a guy might got a little she

18:03

gets her amount of the best i saw

18:05

him is that it's okay but again related

18:08

democratic house we had to more democratic

18:10

senators who are willing to get rid of the filibuster

18:12

or gonna get more progressive policies you know how we know

18:14

that everyone on

18:16

the democratic party and congress signed off on

18:18

the three and a half trillion dollar bill is

18:21

germs that like so we know that it's not we

18:23

don't have to take them for their word they all voted for the shirts

18:25

were to were two senators away now if we're if

18:27

we're real like the democratic out so that's good

18:29

news and to clarify his arms us

18:31

arms break i think so too i want that want yes

18:33

or no or no wouldn't either i think the lessons

18:35

for me are the climate activists

18:37

again they should take the win because they want something

18:40

which was drive climate the top the agenda

18:42

while all this other stuff is cut outs medicare

18:45

expansion to include dental vision hearing

18:47

paid medical leave i also think that stripped away

18:49

the climate state in and now because of great

18:52

work and and because the planet's burning ah

18:54

to having majorities in the senate and house

18:57

is everything everything we we can't kick

18:59

your mates in as party we need as though this

19:02

is why lastly the thing that frustrates

19:04

me to the most in all politics is

19:06

the people who say

19:08

our politicians are bad all the parties

19:10

are bad they're all the same

19:11

no they are not every

19:14

republican voted against his bill within the

19:16

democratic party there are really gray politicians

19:18

and their some kind of shitty ones anyone who

19:20

tells you all the same is lazy stupid

19:23

are trying to mislead you do not listen to them

19:25

with into the climate experts in what

19:28

they're saying about the impact of this bill

19:30

also there are some politicians who are

19:33

are really great sometimes and shitty

19:35

other times and great on some issues

19:37

and see another she's people are complicated

19:40

you don't have to have them be your heroes or villains

19:42

they work really are they work for you are instruments

19:45

of progress or not and it's it's

19:47

our job to continue pushing them and guess what

19:49

that happens on election day it between election

19:51

this voting is important public

19:54

pressure is also important and the see just gotta

19:56

keep up the organizing keep up the pressure so

19:58

biden

19:59

the

19:59

oh bite and heard of

20:01

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20:03

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20:06

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20:08

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you know neither

20:39

and he bind thousand bills trump's doesn't have the

20:41

ages in the hallway

20:43

eliminated earlier measured and okay

20:45

to get a contest also in

20:48

just last ten days

20:50

i'm also took executive action to protect

20:52

abortion access announce the successful

20:55

mission to kill an al qaeda leader and as presiding

20:57

over an economy where inflation is still high but gas

20:59

prices are falling and unemployment is at record lows

21:02

everything's coming up random guys and

21:04

any deal everything's coming up brandon he did

21:06

a when he uncovered like i will be

21:08

cook is us up some meme meme

21:12

, story with it said defeated

21:14

cove it twice twice

21:17

fast as i mean that's it others accomplishment

21:19

they finally found a meme that works for matter

21:21

is settled it yet the dark not easy to and

21:23

have a dog brand of thing for zeigeist had barely noted

21:26

as i had to read plate story about a

21:28

about i only

21:30

i only understand it just a little during or now aired

21:32

on the white house has tweeted out against they

21:34

get joe biden with glowing eyes and you

21:36

know layers of irony on irony

21:39

he had been week at his think pieces about it you're

21:41

separatists pieces about the

21:43

dog brandon meme anyway i i

21:45

would i would a lot of money to hear someone in the way

21:47

has explained to joe biden the

21:49

dark branded me night when i will these were that

21:51

explanation begin like what is a meme

21:54

what is the brandon webb

21:56

that what's that will you i why did you tweet

21:58

oh my eyes like that with a tweet

21:59

the letters mean partly made some he called the enigma

22:02

machine

22:03

there are

22:05

, more series of her so

22:08

obviously we have no idea whether the

22:10

string of good news will

22:12

affect the mid term but if

22:14

you in the white house or if you're running a democratic campaign

22:17

how do you talk about all these accomplishments how did

22:19

they change your strategy if at all

22:21

back to or hash tags democrats

22:23

deliver a physicist not

22:26

, now not get the it yeah i

22:28

was everything but as i guess there's a spectrum

22:31

and it runs from a

22:34

early two thousand early two to trump

22:37

all the time like obama thousand

22:39

nine is having an incredibly

22:42

successful legislative period passing

22:45

recovery act passing a student loan bell passing

22:47

in health care bill passed on wall street bill

22:49

spoke we we were we went

22:51

through this and

22:53

where the that the current economy is still doing

22:56

terribly couldn't tell people that you solve

22:58

their problems and also can't brag

23:00

about how much worse things could have been for your interventions

23:03

as he really careful that you talk about your accomplishments

23:06

that runs all the way to draw so many caveats

23:08

so many copy of i mean are you that under

23:10

threat bearing about how bearing how tough it

23:12

is out there before you before you before say what year

23:15

before that three parts of the never shirts and by the time

23:17

the gets in there hung in and as switched the and

23:19

seen as gone are out there out so

23:22

and then you have just declared victory

23:24

of course they didn't really work for him people see with

23:26

their eyes to does it really works you need to find them

23:28

find them and middle do think that

23:30

and how republicans have been behaving ah

23:33

at with a kind of like imperiousness

23:35

and assumption that they will face no political

23:37

repercussions virtually any decision i think it's just about

23:40

the choice he just ladies things out

23:42

democrats more you're all of these bills

23:44

even the ones that had the most bipartisan support

23:47

were opposed by the majority republicans right you

23:49

can you think you can try to call them they are

23:51

on some level bi partisan but republicans

23:54

whipped against the the the manufacturing

23:56

belt they they have tried to stop every single one

23:58

of these a loss and people but they did

24:00

try to stop them as you just make the choice here's what we

24:02

tried to do they tried to they

24:05

they stripped out ability make insulin cheaper for

24:07

everybody we want to make america more competitive they

24:10

voted against the bill we want to

24:12

stop gun violence most of them voted against the buddhist

24:14

paint the picture of the choices are making they

24:16

threw making fit of pique tried stop us from helping veterans

24:18

right that's what to say

24:20

yeah i mean the harper lee go lucky you alluded

24:22

to that

24:23

like the affordable care act that the it it

24:25

will take years be self daughter years ago

24:28

into effect so that like you can run on

24:30

your i'm joe biden sent you a check

24:33

catcher's demi vote for me or whatever and

24:35

so we have to solving a narrative democrats

24:37

get things done while the republican party's

24:40

obstructionist and extreme in all

24:42

these ways we try to have kept the cause of insulin

24:44

republicans blocked it republicans voted against

24:46

healthcare from veterans who got sick inhaling

24:48

toxic fumes iraq and afghanistan

24:50

democrats got it done and so i

24:53

think that's the core messages or

24:55

talking about momentum and all the things the democratic

24:57

party then i think that's kind of where the take

24:59

the when message comes and we had we the buck

25:02

our own party up salaam people are understandably

25:05

bummed out in in disappointed about

25:07

the lack of progress out of

25:09

a a year of getting mentioned but

25:11

just i got the the contrast in the

25:13

choice mindy that's what elections are it's about

25:16

you , imperfect choices and i think enforce

25:19

a of this will be a little bit of

25:21

luck because we need gas prices keep going down

25:23

the short term and that probably

25:26

gonna have less to do with anything happens in washington

25:28

them like china's policies

25:31

and whether they still have a covert zero policy and they

25:33

locked down their economy constantly in advance

25:35

it disrupts demand but hopefully

25:37

, adds interest rate increases

25:40

will work out inflation will go down

25:42

jobs numbers were really good but there is a bit

25:44

of like us a sentiment feelings

25:47

about the economy that is hard

25:49

to drive if you're the

25:51

president but his goes a long way towards

25:53

contributing towards whether people think the on

25:55

the right track of the wrong with a sport you they don't

25:58

and that's why thing too as as president

26:00

your job is not to be the the

26:02

daily barometer ,

26:05

how the economy's doing or not spam

26:07

who's fighting for rape democrats are fighting

26:09

for what people care about rape your

26:12

number one issues inflation absolutely were trying

26:14

to lower the cost your energy bills bullet cluster

26:16

healthcare bills your prescription drugs

26:18

and republicans voted against all that shit

26:21

and you know what they care about their out there trying to criminalize

26:23

abortion the come in after gay marriage right

26:25

they're not they're not even attention

26:28

to the issues that you care about

26:30

most which is the cost of everything

26:32

in your life right now which democrats the front forks and

26:34

they're off because they're so extreme they're

26:37

trying to do all this other shit and that's what they're going to do

26:39

if they if they take power it's a funny they were tagamet

26:41

have joe biden said sell

26:43

like the greatest legislative success

26:45

since fdr trump's out there announcing enough

26:48

be irate on himself physics had

26:50

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30:39

let's talk about the conservative political

30:42

action conference known as see past that

30:44

was held in dallas texas over the weekend i

30:46

see is for the hardest

30:48

of hardcore mega fans donald

30:51

trump spoke and was once the overwhelming

30:53

favorite of the attendees sixty nine percent

30:55

nice said they from to be the g o p nominee

30:57

and twenty twenty four or twenty four percent

30:59

shows rhonda santas at a bigger margin

31:02

for trump that he got it february's see

31:04

pack conference orlando a straw poll conducted

31:06

by his pollster sit at a conference

31:08

was run by match slap and

31:11

his wife mercedes slap to

31:13

also worked for trump so i don't know that we put last

31:15

stock in this know well okay

31:17

well of the all the ball the public also have met

31:19

him some piano but the fellow authoritarian

31:22

who stole the see pack spotlight from trump

31:24

wasn't to santas wasn't a potential

31:26

twenty four arrival of the prime minister of hungry

31:29

viktor orban here's a clip

31:30

hungary shop protect the

31:32

institution of marriage as

31:35

union of one man and

31:37

one woman the don't need

31:39

more genders any more rangers

31:43

or , drag queens and more trough

31:45

notice notice goal bullies

31:47

can all go to house i

31:49

have come to texas we must

31:52

coordinate the movement of all troops

31:55

because you face the same spellings

31:58

you have me too

32:00

and the be real heavy

32:03

like seen in the european parliament same

32:05

year these two locations

32:07

will be fine the to france

32:09

in the battle being fought

32:12

for best of civilization today

32:15

because neither of them yeah

32:18

we need both

32:20

tommy or why the hell was the hungarian prime

32:22

minister invited to see pack and for our listeners

32:24

who aren't yet world as i can you

32:26

talk about why or bonus at a dangerous figure

32:29

sure what is it attacked or smooth

32:31

but more it he was china

32:33

he's trying to texas it up a little bit so

32:35

many said he said we

32:38

need not more genders more rangers

32:41

and then he said not more drag queens more

32:43

chuck norris is man that's a really didn't

32:45

dated it's dated little complicated

32:48

according to the first google result

32:50

on duck duck go the chuck norris me

32:52

i'm also emerged in two thousand and five so

32:55

thrilled theme a viktor orban

32:57

socks he a prime minister hungry

33:00

spent the last crushing their

33:02

democracy he basically took over the free

33:04

press by putting his i'm his a

33:06

sec fence charge he their elections

33:09

in april his party fifty

33:11

four percent of the vote but eighty three percent of the

33:13

district something far more extreme gerrymander

33:15

than ours gerrymander he's changing the constitution to

33:17

trenches power and stuff the courts full

33:19

of his cronies and you know basically created this

33:21

kleptocratic mafia like state where

33:24

businesses to support the fit

33:26

as party political party or else

33:28

party they can get taken over shut down

33:30

or harassed by the tax authorities

33:33

he'd anti gay he's anti immigrant he's

33:35

any demagogues george soros in a way that it's incredibly

33:37

anti semitic and so or bon none

33:40

of this none of and he's been like this for a long time

33:42

but a few ago gave a speech where he

33:44

said we hungarians are not mixed race

33:46

and we do not want to become a mixed race

33:49

that's pretty startling a civic yeah i

33:51

mean his own advisor called that quote

33:54

a purely nazi diatribe where the of joseph

33:56

goebbels ah but see tax or welcomed

33:58

him and that doesn't really surprising

33:59

be a complex where bonnie endorsed i'm

34:02

i'm argonauts wanna or bon and

34:04

do what he did too hungry

34:07

the

34:08

and he or been is in many ways and much smarter

34:10

more effective drum

34:12

some always we really worried about

34:14

from provided him to bedminster on tuesday

34:16

yeah only go up on seat was like we basically

34:18

autocrats these like white nationalists

34:20

need coordinate the crusher enemies the democrats

34:23

and and that's steep egg is

34:25

where the republican party's going you know the more extreme

34:28

more authoritarian it's if ashes are his agency backers

34:30

now fashions is agency outposts for international

34:32

fascism this was an international fascists

34:34

conference that's why have fascists to money sudden mounts

34:37

a international fascist taking

34:39

that he wants to connect and collaborate between

34:42

european states european around the world ah

34:44

this is you know saying we saying know attacking

34:46

transgender people say we need fewer draglines

34:49

and more rangers or whatever it is pure fascist

34:52

ah that's what the commerce has that's

34:54

why you see that's kind of and and it is

34:57

you know like fascism

34:59

is it isn't coherent doesn't have to be

35:01

it's a permission structure for people to be

35:04

their absolute most vile cells and

35:06

that is why a kind of spreads the

35:08

top down it's why you see reporters

35:11

being harassed at this conference in being kind yelled

35:13

at and followed around by people smiling

35:16

and enduring anthem is a

35:18

kind of spreading vicious ideology

35:20

and this is the outpost the and says america

35:22

and some

35:24

we we should just communist

35:26

they're interviewing attendees about

35:28

or bands mixed race comments to

35:31

and he had a bunch attendees hang things when

35:34

i know but that that's that's a little uncomfortable

35:37

and the make because went back and look for you know

35:39

he's pretty otherwise a pretty great out

35:41

the whole package is great are about that the

35:43

put your you see how it's just like yeah yeah

35:45

that's fine i wouldn't know that's your thing about a to

35:47

is that they're all part of a team that there is part of the know

35:49

that the defending themselves there's no no

35:51

comments that starts to extreme

35:53

and is into and it's also a very old idea

35:55

they're both in on a joke and there you

35:58

know the attendees it's he packed they are both

35:59

the misled but they know it and they are part

36:02

of the they feel as though they're part of the team doing a misleading

36:04

and they love it and twenty fifteen he the

36:06

harshest are on migrants

36:09

places like syria afghanistan in between

36:11

muslims and him and in twenty fourteen

36:13

he said the new state the we're building in

36:15

hungary is an illiberal state so that the hardest

36:17

gerrymandering and term you

36:19

know legalized autocracy

36:22

is kind of what he's overt before

36:24

i think what what orleans one and

36:26

also why you see now increasingly

36:28

republican candidates when you're not

36:31

vilifying reporters from mainstream outlets

36:33

they're no longer in talk to them you don't even get

36:35

they don't let the men they don't let into their events

36:38

it's all part of his the same kind

36:40

of permission structure for abandoning

36:42

all the kind of liberal values that have been at the core

36:44

of

36:45

you know

36:46

the thing we pretended america was at least for a while

36:48

also yeah speaking of

36:50

america trump delivered a version of the

36:53

new stump speech he for stephen d c a few weeks

36:55

ago where he now proposes

36:57

the death penalty for drug dealers and ten cities

36:59

for people experiencing homelessness j priced

37:01

from rodrigo detect a of in the philippine rights

37:04

course ah here's a clip of all of

37:06

of trump's almost to our speech

37:08

at the time

37:09

they blue instituted the death penalty

37:11

for drug dealers traffickers

37:14

i believe that

37:15

the dealing with go down

37:18

fifty percent on day one i'll

37:21

you one thing if i'm a drug dealers say

37:23

no thanks i'm going someplace else is

37:25

the only way you're going to remove the encampments

37:29

and replay more downtown's is

37:31

open up large parcels parcels

37:36

ten cities you have them we

37:38

have to abolish

37:41

green new deal ronnie

37:43

, my doctor doctor

37:45

loved look it up my body was so strong

37:49

iran iran won twice

37:51

as much better the second time that

37:53

the didn't suffer is getting me

37:59

do it again

38:02

i did not looking at my body that looking

38:04

at it when i think he's been being

38:06

that that trump where he's actually charming and

38:08

funny he's like making fun of himself as a good joke

38:11

yeah he made it yeah yeah you were saying oregon's

38:13

a more effective trump but i do think for a trump's funnier

38:16

yeah urban's and command i do

38:18

neither celebrity oh that

38:20

was a i did not a watch this

38:22

speech in order to i'm but i saw

38:24

i was scrolling through twitter what it was on and

38:26

and are peloton millar said i hate to

38:28

ruin everyone's weekends this is absolutely

38:30

the speech if someone who was running for president

38:33

again down and a indefinitely

38:35

in in pole position leading the field

38:37

here has a very strong grip on the party or

38:39

something more about it for the bulwark today and could not

38:41

agree more i was definitely like over the

38:43

last couple of months flirting with the like can to

38:45

do it kansas and it just take them down i

38:48

dunno i dunno you watch the speech like that and you

38:50

see the crowd and i know that is the pack and i know they're like

38:52

special maga hardcore fans

38:54

but that's a a it's going to be tougher run

38:56

just angeles to take [unk]

38:57

i think this other guy magazine try them maybe

38:59

get do it i think the question well trump

39:02

run again to me the way to answer that

39:04

is what does he have to do it's

39:06

a better use of his time it has enough as f

39:08

b i read goes really really well thrive

39:10

in a suggested osborne us scenario

39:13

, going to do the yeah the

39:16

he basically says he says america's on the edge of an abyss

39:18

and our movement as the only force on earth that can

39:21

it has so not something he's planets

39:23

that and so i'm it over to run the

39:25

santas think so while and

39:27

one of the f b i or it is brandon sanderson like a f

39:29

b i

39:30

computers are you are in this

39:32

in this like are bizarre horse race speculation about

39:34

it but the did real danger here is

39:36

that the republican is

39:39

gonna end up being a could end up being trump

39:41

the santas and others just

39:43

trying out each oh absolutely i love we

39:45

there are it's it's does all these forces are just

39:47

pulling them further and further

39:49

to the right further extreme so that each

39:51

one of them has to paint a darker image

39:54

of america her shirt you know i mean this that's what's really

39:56

scary but that yeah i mean look at you know we did

39:58

was his little you obvious his his come from

39:59

that a d triple see running ads

40:02

for for a right wing a goon

40:05

and in michigan and

40:08

the problem here is there plenty of places

40:11

all across the country with a digital didn't to run an

40:13

ad for the republican base

40:15

to choose the most despicable vile human

40:17

beings on earth you know we talk a lot

40:19

about what we need you to preserve democracy but

40:22

this larger threat it is hard have democratic

40:25

society in a country where

40:27

huge of

40:29

aren't democrats small the democrats

40:32

and like the republican primaries

40:34

across the country are now fucking pasta makers

40:36

that taken dough and extrude this fucking

40:38

fascists matter what they went in

40:40

looking like a at the risk of getting

40:44

the job and the new york times are bad page

40:47

i duke i'm concerned that both sides the

40:49

rhetorically that the right there but v

40:51

that this apocalyptic vision like the great

40:53

face in theory the left is going to destroy

40:55

us and then on the left or like these people

40:57

are trying to destroy our democracy

41:00

i i believe that very much to be true

41:02

put is it's frightening to hear these

41:04

two competing visions of like the world

41:06

ending well you're ,

41:08

sure how about strikes like the average voter who don't

41:10

touch the politics for like the two weeks before

41:13

an election i think about that a lot because

41:15

i like you genuinely believe that

41:17

this is a threat to democracy as do not

41:19

just a bunch of like wild eyed liberals like

41:21

us but a lot of former republicans

41:24

our friend tim miller like other people who had once

41:26

been conservatives and are people like liz

41:28

cheney who are still extremely conservative

41:30

on most issues but still worried

41:32

that that donald trump and in the maga movement

41:34

is a threat to democracy h victor yeah

41:37

we got fucking someone we'll dick cheney out

41:39

literally he was yeah took him out of a fucking

41:42

that fucking giant mechanical advisory

41:44

sending yeah so sending know but i i

41:46

i wonder you know i think average people

41:48

going about their day may not see that

41:50

threat who don't pay close attention to the news

41:52

is we do and don't consume this stuff day long

41:54

and don't pay attention to what's happening etsy pack but

41:57

i'm ray people should start paying attention

41:59

be the or

41:59

numbers and about hawker see is not you declare

42:02

an emergency a state of emergency you send

42:04

troops into the streets units like lcc

42:06

in egypt it's you are

42:09

get a , thirds majority

42:11

in parliament you could change the constitution see

42:13

gerrymandered districts you pack the courts

42:15

and ignore the you don't like in york's cronies take

42:17

over media and known her son the opposition like that's

42:20

the slower long lead time

42:23

of and ill liberal state

42:26

law and and and you know you you poses thing well

42:28

what are we doing it that you know the to visions are

42:30

these two extremes one as if for cystic vision the

42:32

future this country the other is a

42:34

group of people desperately trying to raise alarm

42:36

about the fisher stick threat to this country is it

42:38

will how do we enter how do we end up in this like

42:40

what were the weaknesses allowed

42:42

us be in a where it's basically a controversy

42:45

right which of these two poles and kind of went out

42:47

and one of the reasons we were weak to fascism

42:50

is because the mainstream press

42:52

in his country cannot be honest about about

42:55

the threats that we face they are a narrative

42:57

a kind of objectivity that has left

42:59

us vulnerable that it is it seem as though it's

43:01

a person exercise to defend democracy

43:04

and when we look back on this era we see ah

43:06

mainstream outlets many way much time

43:08

worried about trans swimmers and pronouns

43:11

and woke politics and cancer culture

43:13

on college campuses and what happened to dave chappelle

43:15

because these people know they're fucking enemy

43:17

staring them in a this will be

43:19

why is we one of the reasons a either got

43:21

so close are we celebrate yet or of yeah of

43:24

i think that's

43:27

fewer people are reading those terrible new

43:29

york times op eds than you might imagine no

43:31

than no might i've argued i target much bigger

43:33

problem is not like weekend i'll yell about the mainstream

43:35

media and i have beg you heard me do it and plenty

43:37

of times there are two

43:39

the new an enormous number of people

43:41

in this country who are not that

43:44

media and if maggie haberman

43:46

and peter baker at all the rest them get together and said

43:48

trump is a fascist let's put it on the headlight

43:51

of the new york i do not know that

43:53

it would make much of a difference at this point with the

43:55

people in this country are consuming all

43:57

kinds of horrible propaganda father of

43:59

course of course i'm not saying these specific

44:01

things would solve the problem bliss part of a collective

44:04

failure all that

44:06

kind of institutions that inform people

44:08

to be honest about the threat to focus on

44:10

a threat that involves yet like look the

44:12

new york times remains the kind

44:14

of like assignment editor for a press

44:17

across the country what how it affects

44:19

what becomes the lead story about national politics

44:21

on local news happens on local news station many

44:23

are now conservatives ah is a lot of ways

44:26

people get information all of these different things

44:28

are failing to properly about the threat that

44:30

is one of the great weaknesses we have and the facts

44:32

it's all of our news is than of mediated

44:35

through the social media platforms that only

44:37

that that only exists that only done a new from ticked

44:39

off whose whose daughter is now and right that only

44:41

when our dynamo is raymond here we are there and

44:43

up are branded runs that shit now that's it's

44:45

know that the solution is we democrats need

44:47

to make sure that we attack others

44:50

within our party who have marginally different

44:52

policies sms all day everyday

44:54

that is how we're going to get seven effects that

44:57

as a we get the bill dance the

44:59

is of the fights about it was like instantly

45:02

utterly everyone take a fuckin breath for ten

45:04

seconds to just i think that's what's your point

45:06

i mean that's like a hundred people that decide if it

45:08

it it's one people but that unfortunately they're people

45:10

who have some influence on me as if

45:12

we could opinions are speaking

45:15

to trump we're somehow still getting new tell all

45:17

books about him speaking of insular conversations

45:20

maggie haberman will be out in october or

45:22

i'll read it up and actually as reported

45:24

today that her book will include a story but other white house resident

45:26

staff periodically some documents that trump

45:28

tried to flushed down his toilets i

45:30

unfortunately for all of us there were pictures

45:33

who snap that photo

45:35

it you eat is a the president

45:37

shit earns a piece of emphasis on a gonna take

45:40

pictures pictures a picture at ease have corsi

45:42

what that wears aswell as

45:44

the other way i'm a scoop we're we're

45:46

included the story this morning i feel as if

45:48

the i read really overshadow the so i

45:50

think i remember the sitter stories i think i said

45:53

thought your say browns about assessment of

45:56

meanwhile mag his colleague at the time peter baker

45:58

of us to just mentioned along his wife susan

45:59

of the new yorker are they have a new book

46:02

out that as trump ones as chief

46:04

of staff john kelly why can't you be like

46:06

german generals in world war

46:08

two we did that

46:10

are funny because kelly kelly the next sentences

46:13

are you do know they'd tried to kill times

46:15

is a funny response and i hope he actually says

46:18

but it's a funny saved me to step back obviously

46:20

it's it's madness but it's like

46:22

they tried to kill hitler and and a this

46:25

a movie about it

46:26

the know that whereas had went out of the he was thinking that

46:28

far have you home and rent a valkyrie for the guy yes

46:30

to think and i need generals like that early

46:32

everything what about three like this time next

46:34

month gonna get of time i know that i hear

46:36

me better courses which is having like a see

46:39

like the shock of these resolutions

46:41

just it's wearing off but by

46:43

that the same time the guy seems

46:45

like he's ready to run again and they should and

46:48

we should figure a way to make these revelation years

46:50

of thing so that the new the new yorker piece it's

46:52

an excerpt from book leads with a scene where

46:54

trump tells his team he wants an independence

46:56

day was a military the washington dc

46:58

like tanks and sheds like a good old dictators

47:01

in a quotes from st louis she the stats on kelly

47:03

i don't any wounded veterans in the prayed

47:05

that doesn't look good for me we've

47:07

seen that reported before but it was like kind

47:09

of not unquote to his background it john

47:11

kelly four star marine

47:13

general who lost a son in combat goes

47:16

on tv does he interview

47:18

about trump saying this to him on

47:21

camera that is powerful could

47:23

be potentially for trump's but if the committee

47:25

to save america guys just go to

47:28

what's the fancy place and yourself called the we all have

47:30

your mom thank you john out

47:32

of i'm whisper on background to new yorker

47:35

feature writers it's just gonna be

47:37

the endless cycle of everything is

47:39

every bad revelation that trump is fake news

47:41

and it gets denied and then than york

47:43

times as a diner in cleveland is full of people

47:45

who have never heard the story in their rights and branded

47:47

the next thing i guess what i feel about this a

47:50

lot of this is actually to sort of

47:51

giving more color and kind

47:54

of detail the stories with arena own me we

47:57

are were are nerd to it but they're been many reports of

47:59

have

47:59

trump having collected works of hitler

48:02

his bedside table the one book he went back to

48:04

israel and it's ah

48:06

ah the summer of twenty twenty two

48:09

so it's like a if we're going to hear more from kelly

48:11

if you can hear more from madison were to hear more from from

48:13

from any of these generals a i'm

48:16

all for it lets i love to see it in september

48:18

of twenty twenty four of [unk] museum and i was going to say i that

48:20

think the key is not a you're right

48:22

time we the people that john kelly have to like go out and say

48:25

this publicly but he's just needs to be a constant

48:27

drumbeat all the time every

48:29

day were a couple of weeks out from the last

48:32

a episode of insurrection doesn't it

48:34

already feel like it's starting to become

48:36

a too distant have a memory the a

48:38

the the here the january six hearings and i'm like

48:40

no no we were we had it for a moment

48:43

it felt like yeah right there

48:45

are there are starting to it's like i ll liz

48:47

cheney should run a hearing every day can we haven't run a hearing

48:49

every day from now until twenty twenty four

48:52

i , she does there's a there's

48:54

this book by she grew a called the

48:56

very giant and it's about and it's that falls

48:58

over england that makes them all lose their memories

49:01

and we live under that fuck oh god we have yeah

49:03

every day and it's just fucking we we

49:06

under it and

49:07

they do not last and so it's like whatever

49:10

is gonna we're gonna do with trump it does not in matter

49:12

for a year or more

49:15

one he goes if i can jump and

49:17

without legit get any update

49:19

any of the as well and when he let me refresh perhaps

49:21

less and less garland someone's compound

49:24

z and second drags trump at

49:26

a fuckin goes hotel was

49:28

roseman a second cel when it comes

49:30

and vicky it's the it's the it's the liquid

49:33

from my the boys that makes you super hand

49:35

with the boys us and the , place

49:37

or or behind him last last

49:40

one right wing monster who didn't attend see packed

49:42

with alex jones who juri just ordered

49:44

to pay forty million dollars in punitive damages

49:47

to the parents have a six year old boy who was murdered

49:49

in sandy hook shooting jones had previously

49:51

been liable for defamation and quote intentional

49:53

infliction of emotional distress against

49:55

the parents for repeatedly lying

49:58

and spreading conspiracies about the mass the

50:00

victims and their families including

50:02

that they were all just crisis actors who

50:04

made it up and it was a false flag operation

50:06

by the federal government ah here's a clip

50:09

of the judge a dressing gowns during the

50:11

trial

50:12

we're not your show

50:14

the you understand what i

50:16

have said yes i believe

50:18

us abstruse

50:19

though i can you believe everything

50:21

you say true but it is

50:24

that what was euro with you reacted

50:26

that either very interesting that ship to point out

50:28

this is your shell

50:29

yeah inertia first of all it

50:32

seems really hard to he should

50:34

be charged with perjury and it's he will

50:36

be strange if that doesn't happen given how times

50:38

the judge had to instruct alex jones to stop

50:40

lying on the sands there's something

50:42

that

50:43

you know

50:44

obviously under oath in a courtroom

50:46

but also just beyond that there

50:48

is a kind of rhythms to a

50:50

court proceedings it can't be kind of overwhelmed

50:53

by like pizzazz and showmanship

50:55

and lies you know like you can go

50:57

on television even sale you want the two plus

50:59

two equals five two plus two equals five but then

51:02

you get in that courtroom and you have that

51:04

you are under oath your ah

51:06

your lawyers or officers of the court are

51:08

these they are these it's this bastian

51:11

where the kind of grab the

51:13

rules of gravity being suspended no longer

51:15

apply and one sister a little bit

51:17

of their fucking coke gets caught in the decree gears

51:19

the justice system they get kind of ground up you

51:21

know discovery happens the lawyer hands over

51:23

the fucking text now those go to january

51:26

sixth ah you know that that the big

51:28

why attorneys the know the crack and attorneys

51:30

they go in front of a judge's judge says have you

51:32

found fraud they have to say no right

51:34

like once that kind of it's ,

51:36

to get these people in a courtroom and it's been hard to get trump

51:39

in a courtroom into the hard to the giuliani in a courtroom but

51:41

once we get them in a fucking court room

51:43

their powers or leave them

51:46

are you think what i took away from this

51:48

trial was alex jones

51:50

did what he for money there was

51:52

a point where in for worse is making

51:54

eight hundred thousand dollars a day

51:57

the day and what would do

51:59

sell his listeners on his barrage of be

52:02

paranoid delusional fantasies

52:04

and then he'd sell them supplements or like doomsday

52:07

proper packs or whatever other gold

52:09

like apocalyptic fantasies in our

52:11

i was i should apply to cook for you guys are officer

52:13

lurks in may he literally paraded his

52:15

audience for not spending enough in the info or store

52:17

saying we don't support us you're helping the enemy

52:20

and then what we learned this

52:22

trial if he lied about everything pieces

52:24

business he idiot turned

52:27

over

52:27

here's a copy of his phone for two

52:30

full years to the since i've

52:32

yet to has a good week other council for some reason

52:34

and what we know is no algerians

52:36

lives of the press he lived his audience you like the lawyer

52:38

said the seine parents arm he lied to

52:40

the court he is the scum of the earth

52:43

and and i think what

52:45

drives me crazy about alex jones

52:47

is there is a there's a group of people

52:50

who treat him like he's funny or harmless

52:53

or you can ironically like him

52:55

because he's putting on show that joe rogan as

52:57

cannons categories know this tortured

53:00

the families of six year old kids who

53:03

were murdered people went to their homes and harass

53:05

them and them uses insane conspiracy

53:07

theories to bilk theories audience he's

53:09

he's constructed through these theories for cash

53:12

and he's cash scumbag and he's

53:14

he i agree think keepers himself he will likely

53:16

get prosecuted for this but he deserted

53:19

him for worse should be shut down is nothing first

53:21

the men are protected about spreading

53:23

knowingly spreading lies spreading the death six

53:26

year olds and now we know that his texts or

53:28

turned to the january six committee there's

53:30

committee report in there's daily beast or tucker carlson is terrified

53:33

about his tax chains with alex jones leaking

53:35

so the alex lot more could come from this hearing

53:38

this v m the daily episode about it and

53:40

daily guess it's heartbreaking it as that's

53:42

what it's took this whole thing is i mean i

53:45

knew all this of course like you but often

53:47

so think that

53:48

media coverage focuses on alex jones

53:50

and his conspiracies and disinformation that it

53:52

sort of dislike esoteric concepts

53:54

and you here the father

53:56

of the six year old talk about dropping

53:59

him off and who's dead but i mean it it

54:01

was he got crisis actor the a it

54:03

is horrifying what like these

54:05

are just lies lies seem like to to

54:07

to a benign have a word conspiracy

54:10

seems like to benign of or you know it's like when you

54:12

when you hear what these parents with these

54:14

families who have lost their children have

54:16

gone through because this fucking man who

54:18

was just trying to make money off

54:21

it is horrific for rec

54:24

coming years

54:25

they're gonna here is the just scarier

54:27

the guy alex jones bag it also like

54:30

you we make in for worse was seen as friends

54:32

and didn't matter buddy it really did

54:34

drives a narrative

54:37

in it in a subset of like the maga

54:39

for chance she went on

54:42

world that is it did to damage to

54:44

the contrary you know and i'll show that's what's called that's

54:46

the media that cousins asses and oh in the clips of alex

54:48

jones on january fifth and sixth like

54:50

how many people are going to war you know cheering

54:52

them into your attack the capital the keys if

54:55

you must have their preying on their blog

54:57

there there are these and disenchanted broken

55:00

mostly man up

55:02

ah of who are looking for someone

55:04

to confirm they're kind of violent

55:07

angry solipsistic

55:09

worldview and the far right

55:12

is co opting these people are

55:14

and kind of slowly pulling down the rabbit

55:16

hole from you know and shapiro to tucker

55:18

carlson are some of them out help

55:20

a while the algorithm it's out until they get down

55:23

to alex jones again i don't actually

55:25

i don't think that like this is what is

55:27

venus is is it is is like that

55:30

this is what makes a group of fascist dangerous this

55:32

is not what is look fox news and the

55:34

larger right ecosystem is what

55:36

is propelling the rise of fascism this country

55:38

with alex jones is doing is capitalizing on that

55:40

audience and making a part of it far more

55:42

dangerous and caustic and violent well

55:44

you know who's going to take care of [unk] brandon

55:47

the being

55:48

yeah and you won't be able to take care of it if you're not caffeinated

55:50

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55:53

, coffee we come

55:55

back he he's moving a lotta immerses fucking

55:57

asshole where are we

55:59

doing get gotta get going

56:02

, runs out it was and they run this

56:04

i don't we should do that when we come

56:06

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56:08

to governor mandela barnes

56:10

who is about to be the nominee

56:13

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56:18

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joining us now is wisconsin's lieutenant

58:32

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58:34

mandela barnes welcome back to the fuck gravity

58:38

back present the of by really

58:40

happy thought about this race yeah

58:43

i mean before he gets to the race or one

58:45

ask you the senate just past

58:47

the inflation reduction acts

58:50

of twenty twenty two on sunday ah

58:52

center you're running to replace ron johnson voted

58:55

against it we think about the bell i'm

58:58

so shocked that he voted against it

59:01

, i'm it's ridiculous anything that of

59:04

good for people especially young

59:06

people ah or just the future

59:08

this country at any given

59:10

the fact that he attack greedy medicare

59:12

you for ah or even population

59:15

is not the in their works but i'm incredibly

59:18

excited that the senate has death

59:20

of to get to work for the american people our boys

59:22

live with the back of the senate is broken as

59:25

the real perspective and american

59:27

experience missing is

59:29

i can think of me for auditors places

59:31

right the millionaires

59:33

club and that's just not the

59:36

reality where majority of people say

59:38

it was path or reality

59:40

for majority of people across the country

59:43

and to see this and acknowledge such

59:45

as significant piece legislation this of it

59:48

doesn't make you tried it but it also it

59:50

give me ff worth the work this to

59:53

work have to come yeah i want

59:55

to ask as yet another senator who

59:57

has endorsed you bernie sanders voted for

59:59

that it would have minimal impact on

1:00:02

inflation the turned it's back

1:00:04

on working families what do you make of bernie's

1:00:06

criticism and just you know progressive

1:00:08

activists who might be out there and say you know

1:00:10

where to little i wish we could have done more

1:00:13

while to there's always more to do and we been

1:00:15

held up prefer progress from far

1:00:18

too long have the always sit out in

1:00:20

wait to wait for a deal that works

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workers and cinema or a deal that worth the

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jealous and when so many more

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people across this country

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be overwhelming majority of

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people across the country

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that's what it's really important that's why the

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cycle is so important out of certainly

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motive for it with the understand with

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the idea that yet we push

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remorse or we will get more until

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we have a i us senate

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that is more of are

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who we are of the country and that start

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this november eighth when we flip pennsylvania

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we flip wisconsin and or

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whatever other state that fly into cars

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worst but there's lahore work ahead and people

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get ah people get with the stay

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here and the fact is

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rajasthan is going to be a

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reliable know anything that

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moves us forward and i'm incredibly

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proud of supported have gotten all throughout

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this campaign your bernie sanders was an indoors

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of a we have ah we have expanded

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our support to include the entirety

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of the democratic party people like

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house majority whip gym kleiber ah

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in sen elizabeth warren sen cory booker

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and i'm excited to have the chance

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to work with them to push for

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a push forward word

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people this country who have been waiting

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for much more that we've been good

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there was being a ron johnson as a reliable

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no votes ah your

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future colleagues and are tammy baldwin

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introduce that respect for marriage act she's

1:01:51

trying to wrangle up ten republicans and of

1:01:53

a sudden you see ron johnson say he sees no reason

1:01:55

not to support it which was surprising because

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of fucking dip shit so with

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and all newsweek you starting to backtrack

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were you surprised that ron johnson to

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be open to

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or does it feel like now and a don't

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enter the feeling i was returning to form what would you think

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luckily i was surprised me you

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are open to it is it has been

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it was a very i character and

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overlap couple days you see now rajasthan

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soothing i did position

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that we always expected this is another

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case where we have adults in the united

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states senate attack like children i

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think ron johnson one of the

1:02:32

challenges you'll have with him as he gives you kind

1:02:34

of a target rich environment there's there's

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quite a few ways you go with him ah

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what do you think is the most the sink and effective

1:02:41

case against run john

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inability so on sites like that the problem

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here it just the couple months ago not

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sure you are caught it but there was the ask

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us defense they got the

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contract with the next generation both the vehicles

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and

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our job is from ashcroft in

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this company decided that they wanted

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to send those jobs is suitable for with

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cost of workers out about realized

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are analogous south carolina what i'm saying i'm

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running represent was half governor

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was considered by both shop here

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rise up his response was we

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have enough jobs i cannot

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of a more added stress position to have lower talk

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about one thousand bailey sustaining

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union draft this is a person

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who cannot be more added such in

1:03:27

it feels every ,

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there is something as you mentioned we

1:03:32

had him voting against happen instantly

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can cause i just last week there

1:03:36

was a threat to so threat also

1:03:40

on against benefits for our

1:03:42

veterans and were impact about burn

1:03:44

pits but he has left every single

1:03:46

community single this up

1:03:49

but again and his two years

1:03:51

our thing though the campaign as much

1:03:53

as there is ah you know against

1:03:55

him he is truly benefit

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a poor representative after

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people the state but we have to leave with our guys

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the of li with our visit our because

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are going to decide at the ballot based

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solely on how bad you know

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we need to know we stand for his democrats

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anathema thing i feel that ah

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weeks or a struggle with the previous election cycles

1:04:16

where people don't necessarily know the recovered

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from what we're opposite of suits and

1:04:21

are taken that times you define us

1:04:23

where the american people for we've had a chance to

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do it so we get now friends were

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talking about our plans rebuild the middle class

1:04:30

to bring back pains asked to

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bring back opportunity every corner the

1:04:35

of wisconsin all across this country must the really

1:04:37

theory the cause a story my granddad

1:04:40

milwaukee after serving a world where to be

1:04:42

get a job as a steel workers walk

1:04:44

into the factory walk out thirty five

1:04:46

years later they will lay a foundation for the family

1:04:49

my dad followed his was desk with the opportunities

1:04:52

for people my generation eyes

1:04:54

you get into the middle class the

1:04:56

appeal by ghosts go there they are fewer

1:04:58

and fewer feel like they're significantly

1:05:01

less entry to the middle class in there were

1:05:03

even back then and asked the real problems

1:05:05

were experiencing right now but it's democrats

1:05:07

yeah the health plan or or phrases accountable

1:05:10

that's in our jobs overseas and also

1:05:12

me through that welp european their fiercer

1:05:14

so everybody has fears that the american dream

1:05:17

so we're talking about our our jobs

1:05:20

from his content across the country can we please put the map

1:05:22

up ah we have an important map any to show

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you is a current

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map of covers locations

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in the united states are right now

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they've expanded his content based covers they

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have butter burger they have cheese curds it's

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amazing it's fantastic do you see

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that there's these big states new york

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and california ah some my favorite

1:05:42

places to live exclusively for

1:05:45

a year that you're currently lieutenant governor got

1:05:48

a great job and representing wisconsin building

1:05:50

wisconsin or what's here what

1:05:52

what do we need to do to get this map but more

1:05:54

blue map blue places

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you gotta you gotta get mad the so the phantom

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last four years as we've been

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is it taking

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credit for the callers experience i have

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a widow it is due to put you either culver

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in los angeles in can live like this anymore

1:06:10

well as a man we we we win

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the senate race with i was i thought the expansive

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and dad and for all out the

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for all the other fast food restaurants out there

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this is our great replacement theory right you

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can be covered on every corner that's

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right that's right don't hear ron johnson

1:06:26

talk about that never talks about that's for sure

1:06:29

he's afraid of

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i do it for

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another minute derail the interview of know why

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did you know that did sidle i have and myself

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to this interview has added myself for this purpose

1:06:40

of the go the segway back into back cloud

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only one hiking it's been to become much as have

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you know tom address so clearly

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ah yes as you may the case against ron johnson or

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republicans have already preview the casings

1:06:51

had to make against which that the

1:06:53

going to say you're too progressive on issues like immigration

1:06:56

and policing you're too close too progress as like

1:06:58

bernie and as see in the squad know

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you said this isn't about labels but would

1:07:03

you characterize your views as progressive

1:07:05

what a republican said the same thing

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about any ball which represents and

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you been proven wrong ever

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since and i've seen some

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very

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still define lottery candidates

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get the same effect lobby

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bill in way we overcome this

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by generate a real enthusiasm

1:07:24

across the orchestra and of people

1:07:27

wanna know who has your back right like as

1:07:29

i was coughing goes it's so many different

1:07:32

directions behalf heavy ball and and

1:07:34

rides out and us happy

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you know we like robots

1:07:39

ways voted for donald

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trump we went from scott walker it's only years

1:07:43

the fact is people are going to show up

1:07:46

with a person they know is gonna show up

1:07:48

for them and him with cards

1:07:50

and is that about in other urban versus

1:07:52

rural with not always lever right it's

1:07:54

about the people with consistently been at the top

1:07:56

and everybody else is the left bad at the bottom

1:07:59

in we go to actually show up

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works i've worked for the population

1:08:04

that is easy to be ignored

1:08:06

there was a real powerful moment during

1:08:08

my the primary debates where you shared your mother's

1:08:11

abortion story what prompted you to

1:08:13

share that and and central of an

1:08:15

issue do you think should

1:08:17

be in his campaign has central do you to make

1:08:19

it yeah be very out his own

1:08:22

so he first came up we've been holsters

1:08:24

a series it discussion about

1:08:26

many different issues either this campaign

1:08:28

we did have an abortion routes able

1:08:31

and in that discussion i shared

1:08:34

my mother's three there was a reporter there

1:08:36

was very you know

1:08:39

you it's very professional about it he said

1:08:41

that you without right about it unless like others

1:08:43

approve boil it i known about it he hoped

1:08:46

for a while and added up with

1:08:48

hurry she was more than willing

1:08:50

to share story she actually cheese feature

1:08:52

in one of our most

1:08:55

well received commercials actually ah

1:08:57

she said that she shares her story

1:08:59

so others can know that they are not alone

1:09:02

and i think that i

1:09:04

haven't heard of strength hurt her

1:09:06

it has helped me throughout this campaign

1:09:09

and able to share that on his

1:09:11

face was certainly

1:09:13

very intimate moment ah but i view

1:09:15

of people to know how serious this issue

1:09:17

is how both idiots each and every

1:09:19

single one of us and i do think

1:09:22

ah that this is this is

1:09:24

a issue i this in this

1:09:26

election cycle now he says we're taught

1:09:28

me a fundamental right across to

1:09:30

snow right fifty years of president been

1:09:32

overturned you take away people's right

1:09:35

to bodily autonomy bodily ugly

1:09:38

people's rights make their own decisions

1:09:40

ah people show up in time

1:09:42

and saw that and can

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the

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you been serving as lieutenant governor in a state where

1:09:48

one of the most gerrymandered

1:09:50

legislatures in the country has

1:09:53

tried to strip democrats have all power including

1:09:55

the governor yeah you look at wisconsin

1:09:57

people say that back could be the future for the

1:10:00

the rest the united states off we go

1:10:02

to that if we go down that anti democratic past

1:10:04

how does wisconsin get of this man

1:10:06

if republicans have such a lock on

1:10:09

the legislature i'm sure you've thought a lot about

1:10:11

this in your time is lieutenant governor the

1:10:13

it a sample of worth the com i

1:10:15

don't think we would have been a president donald trump

1:10:18

if the were not more gov scott walker

1:10:21

or the state it was cause and a person made

1:10:23

his whole political career on

1:10:25

the backs of work on division

1:10:27

keep people separated making a

1:10:30

working people enemy of one another

1:10:32

and say if you get all the time

1:10:34

if you're ready for the chaos

1:10:36

or the us in our the chaotic eight ago

1:10:39

thing we mostly have fun with gun but

1:10:42

the way the way out of that the

1:10:45

through , through the us senate you know

1:10:47

if we can pass a troll that we can a

1:10:50

significant democracy or floor that includes

1:10:53

ah outlaw and banning the partisan gerrymander

1:10:55

will be in a much better place ah as

1:10:57

as a country medicine know vr this

1:11:00

sort of representation we've been getting i can

1:11:02

tell ya no se and twenty twenty

1:11:05

ah assembly democrats line

1:11:07

over fifty percent of the popular vote

1:11:10

came away with that thirty eight

1:11:12

percent of seats that would you even

1:11:14

or had that this thing has led

1:11:16

to a very extreme

1:11:20

extreme coming out of the

1:11:22

assembly and the senate fortunately we do

1:11:24

have been hoping that that much of that for

1:11:26

becoming law ah bless again

1:11:29

now the people with god look awful people's

1:11:32

cars as a for universal background

1:11:34

checks for a firearm first fan of

1:11:36

the soul as people support marijuana

1:11:38

legalization ah people's for

1:11:40

higher minimum wage we have wage seven dollar twenty

1:11:43

five seven always wisconsin know

1:11:45

all issue that an overwhelming

1:11:47

majority of the people years of work but

1:11:49

do not even get a public hearing because

1:11:52

the gerrymander and any from people

1:11:54

asking any was whole no progress it is quite

1:11:57

simply the legislature and also

1:11:59

the supreme court the act of the

1:12:02

wow the supreme court at the same time

1:12:05

we have rajasthan in us

1:12:07

sen iselin same exact thing

1:12:09

that they join in the capital

1:12:12

and he must as the a partisan take of

1:12:14

our ally says he was a buddy worse they are

1:12:16

not bad enough for rides are

1:12:18

, bad enough so it but it

1:12:20

sounds like the then is

1:12:23

got to get bad enough that people vote and enough

1:12:25

numbers overcome the gerrymander

1:12:27

well that the being be happy with

1:12:29

the things that we get a majority of the couple

1:12:32

extra seat get rid of a filibuster

1:12:34

is worth see significant

1:12:36

democracy reforms including benefit of

1:12:38

banning a partisan gerrymandering ah

1:12:41

through congress then are mass

1:12:43

will change

1:12:45

though ah you'd be the second youngest

1:12:48

united states senator after that haircut from georgia

1:12:50

and us who

1:12:53

, just it it as

1:12:55

to still got us i will a loss of us

1:12:57

are you double the number of younger

1:12:59

than me into a lesser extent john ah

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fuck ah us

1:13:04

there com

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i would also allow out

1:13:08

of the ones the net worth

1:13:10

the media network by you would descend

1:13:13

like so bar was let's

1:13:15

, at it as such so

1:13:17

i bad at like

1:13:19

you don't we talk a lot about the dangers

1:13:21

of living in a gerontocracy why does it matter

1:13:24

the have

1:13:25

a new generation in the senate

1:13:27

what's the difference between having

1:13:29

having representative a new represented someone who's

1:13:31

been in the senate for very long

1:13:33

it's all about prospectus you know any

1:13:35

governing body nice an accurate

1:13:38

ah the people that are being represented

1:13:41

now the fact is our generation you

1:13:44

know the first is gonna have to refer to not even

1:13:46

the law before us and if are

1:13:49

in veto power we are in positions

1:13:51

of power none of that change unless

1:13:53

they will need a whole milenio i

1:13:55

did he take over what i am saying is

1:13:57

that was doing the job lethal voice

1:14:00

they will now i don't think of good idea

1:14:02

with the people who understand a

1:14:05

thing by social media understand what

1:14:07

it's like to have gone through are

1:14:09

more like an alley crazies haven't lived

1:14:12

through pandemic having all these

1:14:14

sort of all he thinks throw enough to made

1:14:16

life there's way more difficult

1:14:18

without leadership and place i'd

1:14:21

say help was truly see it through

1:14:23

and ban on topic all working class

1:14:25

perspective that is miss and as well

1:14:27

we we we see the senate typically

1:14:30

stall he comes to bowl

1:14:32

legislation it comes out of the house and it's because

1:14:34

they're working class perspective isn't

1:14:37

there things like a child tax credit a

1:14:39

fan of the earned income tax

1:14:41

credit the nypd get substantial

1:14:43

immediate action on climate crisis

1:14:45

you name it is because

1:14:47

of people haven't had to experience

1:14:50

ah life as the majority of people

1:14:52

do in our generation is right

1:14:55

right leaf had a cover the most

1:14:57

they give her i'm including me in your generation

1:15:00

ah it works the engine of the i i agree

1:15:02

that know you and i contemporaries completely love

1:15:04

it will be forty and just a few weeks yeah

1:15:06

but like a young forties and l a forty but

1:15:08

it's an l a forty honestly it's good

1:15:10

a west coast forty as a mid west forty

1:15:12

seven if let's face it as wow take

1:15:15

it it

1:15:16

the that rates from the see us is because

1:15:18

of autopsies as to the

1:15:22

middle of our existence big thank

1:15:24

you for joining whatever this was thank

1:15:26

you are being good to see i grads in

1:15:28

advance on advance on tuesday and

1:15:30

tuesday luck in the in the months to come

1:15:32

and wait what woman does will end up working

1:15:35

people do right now is yeah

1:15:36

to help your campaign what's the what's the best

1:15:39

thing people across the country can do

1:15:40

absolutely you can go to the website

1:15:42

mandela barnes dot com au social

1:15:45

media as well

1:15:47

that be other mandela's the

1:15:49

twitter and instagram and of yet perfect

1:15:52

or i retire thank you so much agree falling

1:15:54

on

1:15:59

thank

1:16:02

you to mandela barnes for joining us today

1:16:04

and a

1:16:05

well be in nashville friday

1:16:08

friday night for so so that's the next

1:16:10

step had a murky you'll hear that's right

1:16:12

we'll know more about the heading yeah

1:16:15

we welcome at how can really bring a little more what

1:16:17

i do that more information context knowledge

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by maybe they will bring popup it's

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, pop out on the block puppet for

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us to get her cut that is cut its

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