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to save his ever since we're doing good have good have hear

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it on a lot know but did you guys decide in advance

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of amount of people are whereas i as an ally

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it's not it's because of an eye on is a survivor

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come well yeah i'm gonna do you can still

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it can be as high though we vote counting yeah and

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uh let's say what i'm talking about

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today show or republicans getting nervous about

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the midterms the senate tries to pass same

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sex marriage protections and economic expert

2:41

lindsay owens joins to talk about inflation

2:44

then the new game were calling

2:47

who takes in effect i think either

2:49

we're gonna pioneered by dan pfeiffer real yet

2:51

within conversation or this is on the pod

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dame team up with this game the refs

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and does it or else him oh so there

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is no are housekeeping today but i'm just

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going to abuse my position where yeah those are

3:02

the wilderness without sort of using anything

3:04

john society i didn't very hard on

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i worked for your pockets did a bunch of focus

3:08

groups talk to voters even send a spare

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minute in in las vegas

3:13

every day in atlanta in pittsburgh

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in virginia in orange county these

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are all voters who they voted

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for joe biden and twenty twenty one they're not

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sure what they're doing the midterms so i

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talk to us to everyone get very annoyed about

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that's why assists

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to discuss the out of twenty i tweet

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about this and twitter what

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people don't know people have it made up their minds yet

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what is wrong with everyone what is wrong

3:37

the people have not made up your mind why are we wasting

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their time on these people might well because they're voted

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there might how we were betrayed us and they shut

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up and twenty twenty to vote for joe biden so we can either

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right if you are listening to this podcast

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you are i'm probably not

3:51

a swing voter but we need them and

3:53

then the fun part was after the focus groups

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are in each city i had a panel of

3:57

experts and we talked about

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we heard in the focus group so people that you've heard

4:02

in the wilderness the you are being experts react i had to

4:04

keep your , group in that's right

4:06

he did they were campaign experts and they did really interesting

4:08

dan i'm going to be on campaign feeling a lot

4:10

from damn gonna be on guys i got invited to be on

4:12

campaign expert that's because of the wilderness

4:15

and i know looking it's been this long i haven't gotten invaded

4:17

in the real show anyway let's get to the news with

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less than sixty days to the midterms we've

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got ourselves the narrative shift

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on your hat i love narrative aired of shifts

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he is awash in person this weekend republican

4:31

leaders are scrambling to syrup their

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chances to win back both the house and senate

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as inflation concerns fade democratic

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enthusiasm for protecting abortion rights

4:39

surges and new fundraising challenges

4:42

emerge in challenges crucial final months

4:44

of the campaign if when you can do we get

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excited about we'd like that because i imagine

4:48

them about enterprise is again how annoyed

4:51

i am and how over simple it is over

4:53

to all of us the overlords or the and you felt them

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searching for a third one yeah and he went on fundraising

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which is a real concern but it's not as it's is not

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as high level as the other ones were going talk about it's of

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the night the knives or out for rick scott who

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republicans are blaming for bad senate

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candidates and money troubles parties

5:08

also upset about falling gas prices are

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in a starting to make their negative ads about crime

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instead good luck trying to take out bricks god

5:15

we don't even know where half the her classes are as

5:19

, can make having a hard matter of it's and back to

5:21

go and even like harry potter potter by

5:23

transferred i may have helped your noticeboard

5:26

you're required to have to say that every time but harry

5:28

potter i really feel it does and still

5:31

have or

5:33

an internal republican polling is showing that some

5:36

house races are getting tighter because

5:38

of increase enthusiasm and approval for

5:40

democratic candidates guys let's start with

5:42

rick scott the people going up the

5:44

republican senate chances or as he just and

5:47

unfortunate looking scapegoat how

5:49

how real are these money challenges i mean i think

5:51

that when you say he was to blame for

5:53

bad candidates that's the one i think is completely unfair

5:55

mean trump is to blame for most of the candidates

5:57

but i might my take away from

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in republican voters oh yes of course

6:02

of a question of of course right

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i i think rick scott is legitimately

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bad as his job arrogant you prove

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points and farm i would say we're releasing

6:11

an economic plan that would raise taxes on half

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the country

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that idea

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even mitch mcconnell me that a lot while sun

6:18

setting medicare answers good right of every

6:20

other government program very it's i would say attacking

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joe biden for going on vacation in

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delaware before getting on your private jet

6:27

to a yard in italy that idea

6:29

i also it's very clear that the nrsc a spend

6:31

way too much on strategies as

6:33

a digital ads and serve like a hyper aggressive

6:36

fund raising digital tactics that

6:38

are completely unethical that of not pay dividends

6:41

as a think to a point on rickson

6:43

i put himself in his plans

6:45

in plans audience who have the most unappealing things unappealing

6:47

can think of think the same add and

6:49

so also i ate i don't think is very smart idea

6:52

for him to go nuclear in response

6:54

to mitch mcconnell no me like

6:56

do that after you win

6:58

but don't declare now the your candidates are good

7:01

he didn't it i thought originally when i heard

7:03

that story that he just like some reporter asked

7:05

them and he heard he wrote an opportunity

7:07

i wrote an op ed and a h

7:09

saying that anyone who criticizes him as a traitor

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to the cause traitor bar he

7:14

also said about mcconnell trash talking a republican

7:16

candidates with an amazing act of cowardice

7:18

they are not on bear not friendly know that only

7:20

to british guy mitch mcconnell three scott also of

7:22

he's just he's like flying iowa is

7:24

it is like the rick scott show was also like

7:26

not even like there's no can pet that he's not he

7:28

things while highly of himself yeah i was like like

7:31

hey hey rick scott somebody

7:33

but your personality university president my

7:35

friends monogamy press basically and

7:37

also by the way that we don't do a lot of predictions

7:39

i'm going to predict rick scott's like be president iowa

7:41

trip right before you don't win the senate

7:44

it also not a really weird not a winning formula

7:46

it does seem as though he's played out pretty good hand

7:49

very poorly what's gonna happen

7:51

with can have into this tape were known as republicans

7:53

were good habit of the other way of doing it i know this

7:55

course say when they oughta with scott the

7:58

yoyo it doesn't make your he doesn't lower let

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it be a whoop it will not be rick

8:03

scott victory of democrats managed to lose

8:05

we've lost before rick scott and will lose again

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but i the question the money challenges as

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have wanted to answer i mean clearly

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the nrsc is not raising as much as they

8:14

hoped they are spending more than they should

8:16

buy like any billionaire can swoop in any time and

8:18

cutter a big super pac check and

8:21

level the playing field and then added the two

8:23

hundred not like they're really struggling to raise

8:25

the from like this are the lower dollar donors

8:27

and i don't know whose fault that

8:29

is but i think it sort of coming to for it like be

8:32

we've been talking about this absolutely bananas

8:35

conservative and and republican emails

8:37

kind of kind of cattle prod their base

8:40

donating money and it seems like maybe

8:42

they just you

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can have grown resistance yeah basically they're doing

8:46

is they'd send a text or to their lesson would say

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hey do you think joe biden should resign

8:50

are right yes to donate and

8:52

then you've and you text back yes and it automatically

8:55

donate to twenty five dollars without telling you where it's guy

8:57

says scott steal your systematic

8:59

that is the same thing as the tax

9:01

i literally just got from someone telling me to click

9:03

this link to this been suspicious activity

9:05

on my amazon so you're not as to quit this

9:07

nor did not look at things up by the end

9:09

of july the nrsc spent more than ninety

9:12

five percent of what it brought in that is

9:14

so they spent so much money must surely

9:16

and all they have to suffer does all these like really bad

9:18

can it's against they could win it's like as it but

9:20

spending ninety five percent of what you brought in by the into july's

9:22

just i don't think it's good at a good practice other by the

9:24

way like as dot if that like hopefully doctor

9:26

oz loses a right best

9:29

rick scott's fault because they didn't nominate the other

9:31

godforsaken candidate who is just as unappealing

9:33

item on cormac as mine had as chasm connecticut

9:36

and be brave and that's brave trump thing a baby and like

9:38

mitch mcconnell is complaining

9:40

of he wants peter thiel the swoop in and say blake masters

9:42

and read him another big checks in in

9:45

arizona and it's it's these guys talk about

9:47

paying for senate seats like we talk about

9:49

splitting about tab at a restaurant it is is crazy

9:51

is do think it's interesting the peter thiel has

9:54

so far they decided

9:56

not to put money into that pack there's a couple

9:58

at like another million have one that pack

10:00

but it was from sources that weren't peter tell apparently

10:02

he's like a a bang for your buck investor

10:05

know you want to get an early and a primary we can

10:07

really is fifty million dollars can really move the

10:09

needle applied doesn't in the general that but if you're

10:11

putting in millions of dollars into a primary

10:13

and and sitting out the general not

10:16

a great use of money yeah i guess they're gonna that

10:18

the mcconnell phone is going to run ads

10:20

in that race starting in october so they can get

10:22

an early but they're going to get in towards the end i do

10:24

we like look guilty group activities with the polls

10:26

in arizona like kelly , this big

10:28

lead it's arizona it's close i feel

10:30

like that's businesses gonna close us

10:34

so there are few republican economists in

10:36

this piece saying that inflation might not

10:38

be the silver bullet republicans

10:41

thought it would be ah what did you think

10:43

about that personally my favorite thing was

10:45

how they're just replacing gas

10:47

prices with crime in the ads voice

10:50

is it is what is like so you feel in pain

10:52

at the pump i met you get robbed at the pump

10:54

were put on the greatest hits yeah

10:56

you know again it does feel all feel all

10:59

late we should it be very careful

11:01

to first of all trust republican

11:03

strategist to make us feel better about what can happen

11:05

in the fall but also it's absolutely the gas

11:07

prices are coming down coming talked about this with when the islands

11:10

inflation islands still high year over year

11:12

it's not continue to rise

11:14

a it might be as simple as gas

11:16

prices have prices have impact on how people

11:18

perceive economy and

11:20

that's having a positive impact for prices it

11:23

it's still potent it's still a really big issue

11:25

yeah i think the issue in june when

11:27

the average gas

11:29

prices over five dollars a gallon it

11:32

was everywhere in the media it was everywhere

11:34

on tic toc it was on his like everyone

11:36

is talking about gas time he didn't turn out like that listen

11:38

i know reminded you of his prices

11:41

have been falling every day since we're

11:43

now down to three eighty a gallon

11:45

is the national average split still over

11:47

a dollar a gallon higher than we were

11:49

in january twenty twenty one so the question is

11:51

cities is a cat is better not

11:54

necessarily is better

11:56

good enough if a brussels are going up prices

11:58

that are pretty high and prices are also high

12:01

hopefully gas prices will continue to go down

12:03

but we'll see me up on republican

12:05

i'm still trying to blame high gas prices

12:08

and high food prices and democratic party like them too

12:10

hard on the crime as i said stiller a

12:12

younger that's a great as it were adding it's heartening

12:14

about this sort of debated

12:16

are having is how unclear they

12:18

are and on what they should like be really are over

12:20

all over the place they're all over the place on abortion their

12:23

one of the one of the consultant said something that would that was

12:25

like adding very heartening to here which is like each

12:27

of these individual candidates knows the race they want

12:29

to run that's what you say when

12:31

a race is nationalized and you think you're about

12:34

to lose a sound like losers there

12:36

are thrown back to like keystone pipeline

12:38

attacks the go back to you know

12:40

immigration attacks that goes all

12:42

the hair will be a caravan and

12:44

is finally got him going to try me matter as another

12:47

i just wanna be clear that doesn't mean that going to lose

12:50

your record both versions they oh no i just

12:53

a here i'm leaving here olivia market and the

12:55

tell him his have assessed knows only put this on

12:57

the put their correct predictions and or

12:59

it is if you look at bidens approval

13:02

and gas prices over the last month the

13:04

relationship is wait correlated

13:07

depressingly so he has his brother

13:09

though because there's very little red carded a

13:11

president can do about gas prices

13:13

and so you just sorta your approval rating

13:15

is you know it's up or down based on me to

13:17

suspended and again because it's a

13:20

because it is i an immediate

13:22

finding a narrative it's a job vines approval

13:24

rating skyrockets from thirty eight

13:26

to forty four forty four still not that

13:28

great people is under fifty it's

13:31

it's a disapproval rating that such yeah

13:33

well i great it's better than was better that

13:35

it's a could get you through a kick it

13:37

was about joe biden right now and it's more

13:39

about these democratic candidates

13:42

you got a job i'm sitting at forty four forty

13:44

five you can plausibly outperform

13:46

him you gonna joe biden sitting at thirty eight thirty nine

13:49

gonna be really time even if you're the best candidate running

13:51

against a really bad republican a be a tough to a performance

13:54

what if anything should democrat was about democrats

13:56

because we can tell there were no control republicans which

13:58

democrats do about lower inflation

14:01

and gas prices brag about it through said say

14:03

now we were look at joe biden fix everything

14:05

stop talking about the issue focus on abortion

14:07

instead what you think is there a third way love

14:10

it when a very red eye he does come up with whatever you want

14:12

my where i wrote i realize you're out of the no labels

14:15

and i love it's malaria democrats

14:17

were fighting the war in inflation republicans

14:20

were declaring war on women

14:23

therefore i target ever want let us are in the

14:25

world dnc now so okay

14:28

you worse we can look we can work at beacon

14:30

whatever i meant remember when

14:32

economists and others were making

14:34

fun of joe manchin on twitter for naming

14:37

the basically climate change bill be inflation

14:39

reduction act not as we've been defending jim henson

14:41

since the beginning will have time

14:43

i lived i'm glad he needed that i think

14:45

that sick like i think every democrat they should bundle

14:48

up all the economic proposals they've already made

14:50

and and put them into a package

14:52

that they call their like inflation plane and our gas

14:55

prices plan and and talk about it on the stamps

14:57

maybe it's part of your ads but you know if

14:59

dobbs an abortion is the most important issue

15:01

in your state than you should run on that and focus

15:03

on that but have this in your back pocket

15:06

and then wrap the rick scott tax

15:08

increases in round your opponent's next adam

15:10

about it i i would yeah i would nonstop

15:13

remind people that are republicans

15:16

wanna help rich ass holes who are

15:18

gouging consumers during inflation

15:21

and when all the liberal economists whine about that

15:23

i would ignore them here the things were doing to take

15:25

make inflation better hear things rex gonna

15:27

publicans would do to make your life your

15:29

economic situation your prices were so we've been

15:31

working hard with liberal hero joe manchin

15:33

lower your energy costs are your prescription drug costs

15:35

like health care costs or rex guy

15:37

was helping jeff bezos constructors

15:40

mega yacht and and and make sure

15:42

the enough to pay a single dime

15:44

in taxes that

15:46

important but it is okay

15:49

this coming down from his fucking

15:51

cloud bunker to like tweet

15:53

at random professors or yeah the billionaire

15:56

it really is i guess sucks yup i sense

15:58

in which is a busy

15:59

the board you clearly look at those men she's an

16:02

and get office or it one

16:04

, for democrats to stay terrified

16:07

is the fact that no one six the polling

16:10

problems from twenty problems from

16:12

meet cone has peace in new york times today about her

16:14

democratic senate candidates are out running

16:16

expectations in the same

16:18

places don't done

16:21

ah where the pulled over estimated

16:23

biden in twenty and clinton

16:25

and sixteen places like wisconsin

16:27

nevada in ohio or what

16:29

are you guys things going on here sure we'll cancel nate

16:31

cohn for telling us this yeah the blue

16:33

the thing you do with information the don't like

16:35

as you attack the messenger fiercely

16:38

personal terms of you

16:40

starts like guy they

16:42

gonna camera i don't know how to dragons

16:44

character's name yet but matt smith

16:47

beaten up the guy that told him that his brother was innocent

16:49

troops you know whether we want to do to nate cohn

16:51

you does you will learn any lessons

16:53

dozen others pointer snuff wailing that nothing

16:56

for cycle know what about smith no one even knows what

16:58

method as i get it prince philip from the crown

17:01

unbelievable of will now you've done now

17:03

enough about it

17:06

we don't have enough wouldn't take off and on

17:08

here so here's what i wanted to sort of the freebies

17:10

visitors or x s that a systematic

17:15

physics we should all just assume all the polls

17:17

are wrong the one thing that i sort of was stepping back there

17:19

with what we had something that's better than polls which is

17:21

alexis and we've had ah

17:23

for special actions since

17:26

, handing down and ah

17:28

in all of them democrats have outperformed by

17:30

twenty twenty showing now there's some question as to what

17:33

kind of voters are in those districts maybe they look

17:35

more like the college educated voters that

17:37

will help us in those places but will show us

17:39

underperforming in some other places

17:41

where we had this sort of pulling era that need talking about

17:43

that's fine about that's the

17:46

thing about point years as you don't know because

17:48

we won't know until we run the election at it we should

17:50

assume there is one and act as if it'll

17:53

be a public polling her and the

17:55

you never knows that the parties are using

17:57

the determine resource allocation especially

18:00

we were gets millions eyes of of

18:02

tv ads a are based on something

18:04

a little more updated so that's my concern that

18:07

the popular vote the help of older or fun for us

18:09

and whatever we can tell people to ignore them in their media

18:11

posts and can make fun of the media from doing good job and

18:13

post but the problem and twenty was

18:16

reflected in internal polling and it

18:18

was also reflected or internal on both

18:20

sides here's what you don't even like republic of none

18:22

of us republicans worrying about shit they're

18:24

polls could be shit too we

18:26

just call that a trough of hundred and

18:29

twelve argue your , one hundred

18:31

thousand or thank you the the problem

18:33

here here or one of the the

18:35

one of the a the theories here

18:37

or what the problem is is that it wasn't necessarily

18:39

and twenty like trump voters lying to pollsters

18:42

it was trump voters being less likely

18:44

to talk to pollsters at all sponsored

18:46

by and biden voters were sitting home during

18:48

the pandemic you know what their marathon inside

18:51

very excited a to talk to pulsars

18:53

about how much they hated donald trump they couldn't use every

18:55

every call every pulsar call they got on

18:57

the phone you're talking about how excited they were

19:00

room or , well

19:02

that's called that is called non response bias

19:04

but it's there is a concern that it's a

19:06

more structural problem now which is people who

19:08

don't have as much faith in institutions don't

19:11

trust the media don't trust politics at all whether

19:13

it's trump voters whether it's

19:15

non college voters that uses for democrats

19:18

are just not answering pulsars calls and

19:20

if that's the case and there's too many college educated

19:22

voters getting into these polls

19:25

or that's now going to help democrats because weird now

19:27

the party even though we used in abby now

19:29

where the party overwhelmingly of college educated voters

19:32

and so we can get non college voters in there is

19:34

going to be problem and i i go back to my

19:36

main concern here for the fuck

19:38

is answering their phone so i know i don't

19:40

know a guy john other drugs hex polling as

19:43

well as noted as you getting more you're getting better him

19:45

on years with tax better responses are mine

19:47

have my phone call say potential

19:49

spam i know i don't

19:51

know there's only were a warranty for a car i didn't

19:53

buy eighty three i don't understand

19:56

that i don't understand why it rings at all

19:58

he doesn't even say a number you can say with

20:00

unknown caller know but i do have a video phone

20:02

but if the phone knows it's potential spam

20:05

then they don't even tell you who it is anymore the

20:08

contract you just filed away for me or you

20:10

don't need to make a ring i'm ok here's the

20:12

question the tigris mr mr

20:14

dodd later i'm presumably

20:17

the bias would be the

20:19

relatively consistent overtime right like a six

20:21

month period the bias would not change that much

20:23

directly so you'd know you have

20:25

a sense of how the polls are

20:28

moving direction we re like if democrats are

20:30

doing better or worse that

20:32

would hopefully be because of actual

20:35

responses not necessarily because the biases

20:37

here's ranging overtime here's the concerned so

20:39

dobbs happens and right

20:41

funds are on their mileage educated political

20:44

are like rocket i

20:46

am i can i am energize i am mad

20:48

i'm going to go vote it's happening in so they they're

20:51

more likely to answer post was called and

20:53

republican voters like through the media narratives

20:55

not good for us because people seem to in the

20:57

upset when they're up when the right when

20:59

abortions taken way and they're like i don't want to talk to a pollster

21:02

and then there's this mirage of

21:04

i have a of about that's not really there that

21:07

would be the fear or vote or that assesses

21:09

it's it's not the size that we've seen because

21:11

there is of course that enthusiasm

21:13

is reflected in the outcome sixteen is ranked in

21:15

voter registrations affected him what we saw in kansas

21:17

affected it's it's it's with seat in the new york nineteen

21:20

per the problem here is like

21:23

the poll that happen in the run up to an election

21:25

or not a perfect our are snapshot

21:27

in time days weeks before

21:29

the actual election that happens

21:32

and so yeah these polls can be off

21:34

the average can be off even in the days leading up to an

21:36

election but it's really hard to the even

21:39

know what you're measuring what you're really comparing

21:41

are you comparing that's ah democratic

21:43

enthusiasm was not as high as we thought it was

21:45

or republicans to build an incredible

21:47

turnout machine right that turns people out in the

21:49

mile days of an election a solely on a laxative not

21:52

don't know not the size of the margin of

21:54

error the motion of the closure people

21:56

get his and here we don't we don't do that kind of innuendo has

21:58

been heterocercal as crush of the im

22:00

what's your denominator like vote you can you made

22:02

up with a very good point about the special actions

22:04

the only thing that keeps me up but the special elections it

22:07

special elections in primaries tend

22:09

to attract voters who pay a lot of attention

22:11

to politics voters who pay a lot of attention to politics

22:14

tend to be college educated therefore

22:16

again it's easier and as it might it

22:18

might be easier and a special to get the

22:20

kind of result of course it's true i'm most size right the

22:22

draws out and look when also changes the

22:24

way in which this mid term is going to be run

22:26

in any way we're this is a midterm that's going to have an

22:28

electorate that may look a lot more like a presidential we

22:30

just have no fucking idea especially

22:33

yeah i'm not trust in a single pull out of wisconsin

22:36

know , wouldn't wouldn't

22:38

mean that was a big miss not wisconsin

22:41

has neither good track record their two

22:43

best friends or gideon about pulling no

22:45

later than people in and eighteen holes

22:48

were pretty right there right you know tammy baldwin and eighteen

22:50

the baldwin and we're pretty close the twenty

22:52

first the right right so you don't have

22:55

or it so if republicans are actually polling

22:57

worse of , it'll be because

22:59

of their extremism on issues like abortion and

23:01

same sex marriage marriage

23:03

is the week we'll find we'll if

23:05

there are at least ten republican senators

23:08

who are willing to vote for a bill that would protect

23:10

same sex marriage after clarence

23:12

thomas of course wrote in the dobbs decision that

23:14

oberg fell should be overturned nearly

23:17

sixty republicans voted for this bill when

23:19

it passed the house but so far only

23:21

susan collins rob portman and thom tillis

23:23

have said they'll definitely go for it in the senate some

23:26

republican senators are saying the bill of unnecessary

23:28

and others are trying to include religious exemptions

23:31

to same sex marriage protections you

23:33

guys think republicans enjoy being on the losing end

23:35

of a of a seventy thirty issue a few weeks out

23:38

from the midterms what we think's going on here not and seventy

23:40

thirty issue a and if you were

23:42

fifty five percent of republicans the

23:44

port magical this issue is done no

23:47

not a question at the risk of

23:49

being sent to the island with nate

23:51

cohn c we worried dewey wonder

23:53

at all how many california new

23:55

york based respondents are in that seventy thirty

23:57

number and whether it's tighter and states the

24:00

my question posed with i think there's no

24:02

doubt that this

24:05

being against marriage equality is underwater

24:07

in every state but questions how much

24:09

i think i think that's all you can say is that it's

24:11

under in at reset yeah you know or just

24:13

about every said if it's a seventy third yes it's

24:16

me like the i'd like think these guys are trapped between what

24:18

the majority the country wants and what the maga

24:20

base once which is you know

24:22

pretty fervent bigotry well

24:25

in also i think to the challenge here

24:27

is or why this is happening

24:29

with republicans is ron johnson is the is

24:31

really the most endangered i'm

24:34

in ah , guess you

24:36

can make a case but maybe marco rubio to

24:38

but the rest of them don't

24:40

have them don't where they have to face a general

24:42

electorate that that would probably be favorable

24:45

toward same sex marriage what they have is

24:47

potentially a primary coming up and some

24:49

race in the future of where they're worried about the base

24:51

so they are all things like i also

24:53

think something happening works bail want to jump

24:55

together so you could end up getting a bunch

24:58

more republican but they don't want to say it now and make

25:00

themselves the target so they're just going way for the actual that

25:02

was white schumer said we're doing about

25:04

yes ah and you know johnson's in a

25:06

bid is his it is his senate colleagues as

25:08

leading the effort who is a lesbian

25:10

women ah and she isn't really

25:12

smart and we talked about it when she went on for the america

25:15

obviously we're you know what we're

25:18

soulless political operatives who is he an opportunity

25:20

to kind of drive a wedge issue

25:22

that we're finally on the right side of as republicans him over

25:24

extended cellphone because we're not are center tammy baldwin

25:27

this is the issue of the harper he

25:29

wants to ensure our marriage equality and i think that

25:31

that's that's righteous and good ah but

25:33

getting a bunch republicans on the record refusing

25:36

to support the equality of gay people in their states

25:39

ah is or a helpful thing as we haven't to the

25:41

fall an ancillary benefit of was obviously a moral

25:43

precepts in regimes on mars like god

25:45

knows with that as catches as he says that creepers

25:47

spent about his brother he said he

25:50

originally said he saw no reason to

25:52

oppose the bill and then a few weeks ago claimed

25:54

he never said he'd support the bill and just me that earlier

25:56

statement to quote get the press office best which

25:59

will anyway there is a him he does not bright you genuinely

26:01

stupid yeah love it did you see that that so

26:03

ken mehlman is leading this

26:05

like letter of with a former republican

26:07

support same sex marriage and i'm like i'm glad he's

26:10

still a toning for his the i'm so glad

26:12

wow but i charlie baker gov

26:14

massachusetts wildly popular ratty

26:17

is running like seventy percent approval is on the bills but doctor

26:19

oz i think as sign this letter ah

26:22

i'm in our of marriage equality which

26:24

was interesting to add is very that as that i

26:26

think does tell you something about what a genuine

26:28

with the politics are any genuine swing states

26:31

it's to be for marriage called which

26:33

is why think the ron johnson thing as a little weird yes

26:36

because i don't think wisconsin that much different in pennsylvania

26:39

that on an issue i would however the

26:41

either offered to sort of ask

26:43

them to i'm

26:46

giving in to a democratic position

26:48

as wildly popular you know to sort of out of editor

26:51

it's out of runs under cover comfort zone ought

26:53

, do something right on this yeah and i do also wonder

26:55

to it's like or

26:59

we talked about this a lot on the show that living we

27:02

want republicans we believe that they've gone too far

27:04

in a culture where they overextend themselves that taken

27:06

on freedom there they are way

27:08

over their skis they're obviously

27:10

ah have an incredibly unpopular position they're

27:12

trying to run away from on abortion that's also true on

27:14

contraception it's trying to on marriage equality

27:17

two and a host of other a culture where

27:19

issues was in let's get them on the record over

27:21

and over and over again to a large extent that

27:23

is what this does it has to purposes obviously

27:25

we want marriage equality are protected

27:28

in this country but just as much we want to use

27:30

this oh no i'm not

27:33

just as my times as much more important for take marriage equality

27:35

but us again cynical operative might say

27:37

if it fails because they can't get ten fucking

27:40

republicans to support the equality gay

27:42

people in this country and assembly thirty issue will i might be useful

27:44

to us even as sad as we are to build a

27:46

successful in the sense that it tells the american

27:48

people yeah we're the politicians they're voting

27:51

for stand on a very important issue that

27:53

they might not have known where they stood yes

27:55

that's why you do these like rubio like i'm

27:57

glad suction was holding the vote this is all the democrats

27:59

could do that oh what a little figures they going to go over

28:01

and not try to convince

28:03

marco rubio to not be an asshole like

28:06

rubio said everything he could possibly

28:08

say to avoid saying what is actual position

28:10

as position this issue or this issue unnecessary it's

28:12

unnecessary waste of time hey man yes oh to nova

28:14

siggy the same amount of time if it's a waste

28:16

of time when time just put people's we don't need

28:18

this there's no threat to marriage equality well the

28:20

leading conservative jurists says

28:22

that it's out next why not put you put your

28:24

gate constituents gate ease the reason

28:27

marco rubio is in for this for this his position

28:29

is unchanged he is against marriage equality it's

28:31

he has four justices that oppose marriage

28:33

equality that as his position he doesn't want to say

28:35

it to fucking weenie he's in a rage and

28:38

anger a tough race suffer all the time

28:40

we don't have done we don't trust the post i i

28:42

would say a and in florida on this issue i

28:44

would yeah he doesn't

28:46

want this to be an issue in for it though

28:49

that's ah that's where they are a big gays

28:51

in miami there you go there

28:53

you go economic and probably all over for everyone

28:56

to wherever absolutely are , ah

28:59

, on alligator did apple

29:02

in florida and for you're saying in florida i'm

29:04

saying in florida i think some gay people to augurs well

29:08

near their homes your thought if they're we them

29:10

with us we're done when

29:12

we come back can

29:15

find a segway there's no segue from that

29:17

cy young we got back military the hawkers

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joining us now to talk about inflation and gas

32:27

prices i have a tesla it's executive director

32:29

of ground more collaborative when the

32:31

oh and say someone on the pod

32:33

thanks for having me i'm a big fan of the sell us

32:35

so last spring ah

32:38

that you're saying that by the way the

32:40

bigger to have even if you aren't last spring gasoline

32:42

was averaging five dollars a gallon republicans

32:44

are promising to destroy democrats are inflation

32:47

fast forward and republican strategists

32:49

are warning their can visit any to broaden their message

32:52

but even as gas prices have fallen inflation as

32:54

a whole has only really gifted still near

32:56

forty your heists what is the impact

32:58

of inflation right now how is it actually

33:01

impacting people's lives

33:03

yeah so we're definitely not out of the woods yet

33:05

on inflation as you mention

33:06

the no hitter

33:08

already your highs in june and

33:10

then in july started to see some cool

33:12

and right that we got those gas prices down

33:15

which is a huge relief to families

33:17

and then we actually thought zero in place and in july

33:20

so on average you know prices did not

33:22

increase at all and you know

33:24

going forward were actually anticipating

33:26

a little bit of the fleas and and so we

33:29

may see in the august numbers price

33:32

level cooling a little back in a negative

33:34

point one something small still

33:36

that will still be in the eight percent

33:38

range year over year and which

33:40

is a big change from year

33:43

his have low inflation and

33:46

i think you know how this affects family

33:48

is of course these high prices are

33:50

really pinching families food prices are still

33:52

at and that's hurting folks particularly

33:55

on fixed incomes you really

33:56

a board and to drop down

33:58

much to increase

33:59

the decrease their demand for food and

34:02

and we're seeing you know still car

34:04

prices are up although we do you anticipate

34:06

used car prices to drop attached

34:09

and this next prance and but

34:11

i think you know overall the outlook

34:13

is starting to look good and it's very

34:15

promising although course you know still

34:18

and a lot of uncertainty

34:19

in there and the months ending and weeks ahead

34:23

these are the little bit about what it's been like trying

34:25

to understand the economy in

34:27

the wake of the pandemic like how do you know

34:30

and to apply like quote unquote like normal

34:32

rules and had he known to sort of throw

34:34

them out the window and say we have no clue

34:37

it's a once in a century pandemic

34:39

yeah i mean so much about this

34:41

moment has called into question

34:43

the conventional as them and that

34:46

sort of econ one or one with than

34:48

that you learned and you know your freshman year college

34:50

a lot of that has been out the window since the pandemic

34:53

head and the supply chain sorrow

34:55

that we've seen are really unprecedented hands

34:57

covered zero policies in china and

35:00

in those are things that really have an impact

35:02

it as ever yes we

35:04

didn't have the same global trade system the last

35:06

we had a global pandemic a hundred years ago

35:08

rage

35:09

the shift that we saw this the

35:11

store except we saw i'm spending

35:13

and services to spending and guides

35:16

and that was really unexpected

35:18

well and again kind of good news on that

35:20

front where things and more i think there and

35:23

the soft actually that right now we're experiencing

35:26

price declines alongside

35:28

low unemployment rates and

35:31

that's and baghdad and it suggests

35:33

we may not have to make that sort

35:35

of hard swayze potentially that's

35:37

false choice between lower

35:40

prices and one employment

35:42

and we maybe had it's you an economy

35:44

where we can both and so so

35:46

much about this moment is unexpected

35:49

and and i think you know

35:51

that the president and the by demonstration

35:53

is really and unchartered territory and

35:56

so far it looks like they may be

35:58

during a chef

35:59

drew you know three these turbulent

36:02

waters and at in a really great

36:04

way and obviously you know the period of high inflation

36:06

of last year really task

36:08

and but really great policies

36:10

on the recovery we had this really historic

36:13

recovery and you know

36:15

on friday the vitamin c some really is

36:17

their economic blue pants and enact

36:19

numb and blueprint was this incredible charts

36:22

and that looks that that the peace

36:24

ever covering jobs in a recession

36:27

what you see on that chart is

36:29

that despite the fact that we law the

36:32

mossad and have any

36:34

of the for recent recession and during

36:36

this code recession we actually recovered

36:38

the job loss is the fastest

36:41

any of the recent recession celts you

36:43

know the cove interest san and bidens

36:45

response beats that you know jobless

36:48

recovery of the great recession by a mile

36:50

and but it also be the dot com

36:53

the dow by the a match and

36:55

in the two thousand and then it also actually

36:58

beats by just a hair and eighteen

37:00

many years as and even now the ninety nine

37:02

years recession had significantly lower job

37:04

losses though really just

37:07

and you don't incredible achievement their which is

37:09

you don't see your point way outside of the norm

37:12

refund recovery and i think actually

37:14

you know rate setting a new pays for

37:17

what americans should expect from

37:19

their president from congress when

37:21

we have we have when we have mass joblessness

37:24

going forward

37:25

so you you talk about the five

37:27

years there has been this inflation but as a time the speedy

37:29

recovery there are certain economist at the other

37:31

things are tied together they're indestructible linked

37:34

is he some people saying well what would you rather have

37:36

would you rather have people come in misery

37:38

did him without jobs or would you rather

37:40

have a situation where we got everybody back to work

37:42

but there are these rising costs ah

37:45

and that affects what happens next because the debate

37:47

has now turned to what do we do

37:49

to get him place under control is it necessary

37:52

or good to try to control inflation

37:55

if that causes that causes kind

37:57

of a downturn like what

37:59

what are you

37:59

about that to be do you make that connection

38:02

ah are you you know are you one of the people

38:04

that was are marching on larry summers

38:07

his house

38:08

what's happening right now

38:10

yeah well fortunately for larry i don't know where

38:12

he lives

38:13

do that

38:15

nine i have not more the

38:17

i married cause i have taken him to tough and

38:19

twitter a couple times i guess that's the sort of san

38:22

you know moderate modern version bashers

38:25

you know i yeah i have a lot of thoughts

38:27

on that debate i think you know i

38:29

think americans should be incredibly

38:31

incredibly wary of for spelling

38:34

unemployment as the cure for inflation

38:36

fuck selling mass unemployment and

38:39

recess and as the cure friendly sense

38:41

and that if a cure worse than it is the is the

38:44

tempo and if a false choice

38:46

we don't have to choose between low prices and

38:48

and low unemployment we can have both and

38:51

and you know the only thing worse then

38:54

high inflation is high and police and and

38:56

millions of people out of work woah

38:58

vulgar shop though one hundred percent

39:01

i don't think we need to be in a world

39:03

where we are die dialing

39:05

up dialing up interest rates and

39:08

to destroy demand than

39:10

to try to fool inclusion what we're

39:12

seeing here is actually some normal

39:15

surveying of the of the forces underlying

39:17

of leash and the supply chain and

39:20

you know shock that we saw some of

39:22

the gas prices in the commodity sox that

39:24

we saw and not

39:26

yet are we thing cooling on the for profit

39:28

sharing and he does a cute the quarter to

39:30

data came out and you know again or

39:32

at seventy or higher on the profiteering and

39:35

but the good musicians there's a lot

39:37

of room for cooling without destroying

39:39

demand if we just take on some of that

39:42

the take on some of that profiteering so

39:44

i think there is a lot of room

39:46

for for inflation to cool and

39:49

normalize he then you

39:51

know even without a i

39:53

, understand what's happening under your pod there's

39:56

i forgot seems as though several pairs of fallen

39:59

out of your years and i

39:59

the unit understand how that's possible keep this

40:02

abraham and such as the same

40:04

pair and then i'm not touching them as they fall out

40:06

of remember reading them when isis

40:08

is said and the caught up with other yep

40:10

so can you talk about the i'm like interests

40:13

it does

40:14

the honor on the question of of how

40:16

much corporations have been profiting from

40:19

these high prices again see this

40:21

debate about whether or

40:23

not that's driving inflation whether

40:25

or not that taking advantage of inflation cutest

40:27

talk a little bit about the relationship between

40:31

we're inflation is that right

40:33

now people's expectations of

40:35

prices in what they should be and

40:37

how corporations are using that

40:39

the either maliciously or

40:42

just sort of practically to kind of make more

40:44

money

40:45

though as a drummer collaborative which is the

40:47

organization i ranch we have spent the last

40:50

year just pouring over corporate earnings

40:52

calls and so either listening

40:54

and listening to the recordings are aware

40:56

and you know usually reading to the transgressed

40:59

little faster and and and what

41:01

you saw particularly in early

41:03

and mid twenty twenty one when when and

41:05

fleas and started to pick up you know what

41:07

you saw his company ceos

41:10

coming to their shareholders come into the market analysts

41:13

on there gurley earnings call and thing

41:15

things like you know papers

41:17

are are taking up a little bit and

41:19

folks are kind of expecting it so

41:22

we're we're taking advantage of that

41:24

we're raising our place you know where we're not sure how

41:27

we need read them a little bit but we're raising them

41:29

the little bit more

41:30

and that little bit more that sort of gilding

41:33

of the lily that was going i am

41:35

under the cover of inflation rate they would say things

41:37

like you overcome it or the reading prices

41:39

so way they are we feel really good

41:41

about raising prices to ours you know

41:43

we expect that you know consumers

41:46

are getting used to death and we we think they're going

41:48

to pay at the we're gonna go a little further what

41:51

that there is a don't drive up prices

41:54

right and accelerate the underlying and fleece

41:56

and that we were are you seeing but be

41:58

it drove profit

41:59

that

42:00

so if you're passing along

42:03

rising and put past but then going

42:05

for more you're really expanding your minds

42:07

and and what we saw ready it's historic

42:09

profit margins yes seventy year high as we

42:11

head and twenty twenty one and we're still

42:14

there after cute you have twenty twenty two

42:16

and so what that means the good

42:18

news is though it's sort of mark ups rate

42:21

which is the amount of money a company

42:23

charges for a good above their input costs

42:26

those markets mean that there's room

42:28

the drop prices and without

42:31

destroying demand right and

42:33

will brainerd

42:34

and you know at the sad sad

42:36

what just last

42:37

let's see the is one of the real

42:39

tail latins for cooling prices

42:42

to be the fact that there's actually quite

42:44

a bit a room for prices to come down

42:46

because of these historic markups we've seen

42:49

over the last year and so this is

42:51

really important and you

42:53

know often poorly understood aspect

42:55

of the inflationary environment where and but

42:58

it is and it is a critical

43:00

wine and to the launch work

43:02

and it's one and i will say that you know president

43:04

biden and folks on the hell understand

43:07

i mean we saw we've seen you know

43:09

a half a dozen hearings in congress on corporate

43:11

profiteering and inflation the

43:14

of books are running campaign ads on that all across

43:16

the country and and president biden has

43:18

taken it on number of times on the podium

43:20

yeah setting up things to go after meatpacking

43:22

monopoly is that are driving up prices asking

43:25

the federal trade commission's take the sign

43:27

am and a number of other initiatives

43:30

i don't i don't understand about it is like

43:34

so i i understand whether they're oh we can we

43:36

can raise prices a little bit more than

43:38

people expect i don't understand

43:40

is why does it work why did that actually

43:42

work in producing because it seems like self

43:44

a feeling right liked the reason people

43:46

they read the reason they think they can read this what i found baffling

43:49

i'm of other people listening fun as babbling it's like oh

43:51

people expect prices to be higher for

43:53

some reason these companies take advantage

43:56

raise their prices even higher the

43:58

because people expected they

43:59

hey

44:01

what causes that kind of a maniac still

44:03

like worked on was it feels like a collective

44:05

delusion likes prices are artificially

44:08

high even above and beyond what you'd expect

44:10

based on supply chain issues and and

44:12

supply and demand but that works because

44:14

we're in a moment where people expect inflation

44:17

if not of inflation expectations that are

44:19

driving that sort of profit sharing we're talking

44:21

about the other saying his mother

44:23

power and is placing power

44:26

so if you only have two or three or four

44:28

players in a space like we have with

44:30

the meat packers you've got the big four are now

44:33

i'm they all can keep prices high

44:35

because they're not worry the about undercutting each other

44:38

right and you know if you've got

44:40

artificially high places you should have a competitor

44:42

com in and drive down prices

44:44

offer i'm a lower competitive price

44:46

you don't see that in places

44:49

where you don't have a lot of market competition and

44:51

you also don't see that and

44:53

in a world and it's

44:56

you know folks are you

44:59

know folks are just a operating us and information

45:01

asymmetry here like you like you reference

45:03

with okay but like i

45:05

i'm i'm all aboard making this argument

45:08

but so i guess like what i what i want understand

45:10

his

45:11

though we've seen corporate consolidation

45:13

and a ton of different industries right and

45:15

that's been happening over the last the think

45:18

thirty forty years

45:20

and then all of a sudden this pandemic happens

45:22

it causes a spike in inflation is it that

45:24

there prices rose dramatically

45:27

and quickly and dramatically faster than you

45:29

would have expected the consolidation didn't

45:31

happen at that pace the consolidation has been taking place

45:33

slowly it's is it that there's a impact

45:35

that basically consolidation

45:37

now means we should come to understand that moments

45:40

of inflation or other kinds of economic crises

45:42

these companies can exert more power is it is

45:45

it is it the two things connected to each other

45:47

absolutely i linked talk about means

45:49

motive and opportunity the profit motive

45:51

has not changed the profit motive is secular

45:54

you know i believe that corporations are alpha make

45:56

about before the pandemic and or other day about

45:58

now and the

46:00

consolidation and was also

46:03

there before right and it was you know in

46:05

some senses the pricing power was laden raid

46:07

it was it was exist and it was there

46:09

sam since and many cases people

46:12

were using their sir there's

46:15

size and their market share and

46:17

to to undercut competitions

46:19

in a world in which supply is

46:21

plentiful you might want to pick up market

46:23

share and part by driving down your place

46:26

in a world in which supply is scares

46:29

you can go build that second third

46:31

fourth shot to pick up more market

46:33

share so instead you flip he

46:35

sees the opportunity the means motive

46:37

and the pandemic supply shortages being the opportunity

46:41

to go for place to drive margin

46:44

up to drive profit margin that by increasing

46:46

there and so that's what we saw in this period

46:48

and i think you know you're a hundred percent correct

46:51

this is not something that we saw in that

46:54

inflation and of the of the late nineties

46:56

monday if we didn't have the kind of consolidated

46:59

and you know market that we have today

47:01

and so this is i think in many ways and

47:03

poorly understood in part because it's a relatively new

47:06

phenomenon i think the other researchers

47:08

starting to bear this out there's new research by the

47:10

roosevelt institute that you know find

47:12

their at ya a sizable role for

47:14

market power and there are other economists

47:16

taking the signs today i think it

47:18

will be taught there for the next decade and

47:21

but it's really important part of that for

47:23

of constellation of of

47:26

causes that thriving that underlying and fleas and

47:28

fleas and is accelerating not

47:30

sort

47:31

primarily coughing and place and

47:33

yeah because if you see some economists to

47:35

say all right i get that progressive

47:38

would like to blame corporations rather than

47:40

say you know ah it's

47:42

inflationary monetary policy or

47:45

of inflationary fiscal policy but corporations

47:47

haven't gotten greedier didn't greedy the whole time

47:49

so that's an explanation for why even

47:52

opened audacious been happening over time this was a unique

47:54

moment which they could take advantage

47:56

yeah i mean what they've been running a pretty

47:58

like aggressive straw man can

47:59

in where their ally agree that like dc

48:02

building greed increased and like

48:04

you know twenty twenty two and inside

48:06

you know like either the second more and suffer

48:08

for five years like of course i think corporations are greedy

48:11

and twenty twenty one may they are not my

48:14

you know that's not my mentality and then the

48:16

second one as you mentioned oval consolidation

48:18

has an increased well you know dynamics

48:21

is that right and you can have can

48:23

interaction of that for was and

48:25

people around like was trial they

48:27

literally thing that in the earnings call their like they're

48:29

like we've never really injuries france's before because

48:31

like i really like what we did

48:33

right week you know he we went with low low

48:35

prices and discounting and and you know

48:37

picked up market share

48:39

like but we've been exploring the full price

48:42

increases saying and it's like pretty great like people

48:44

are

48:44

so like know they say the

48:46

like we're going to keep going and you know

48:48

i mean they use euphemisms

48:49

like you know further pricing accent

48:52

should be expected in the next quarter or likes

48:54

sports the cell man or reach our

48:56

full potential of pricing accents

48:58

but all those urges euphemisms for lights

49:01

were just gonna keep going until we fucking test the

49:03

stove right right right to employ

49:05

people are buying the one thing one thing to ask you

49:07

are because you'd do you know that the ground where collaborative

49:10

is about figuring out sort of

49:11

broad base prosperity prosperity that shared

49:13

we talk a lot about economic inequality

49:16

but when the i wanted

49:17

that your thoughts on his geographic equality

49:20

and how gross has been

49:22

distributed over the past several

49:24

years and how this recovery has been

49:26

distributing economic growth there that

49:29

that we've seen that lot of the growth

49:31

go to sort of major metropolitan areas places

49:34

that have been growing the urban areas places where rents

49:36

are out of control and and kind of kind and permanent

49:38

recession in whole swaths of

49:40

the country has that trend continued

49:43

in his recovery have you seen any signs that

49:45

there's any kind of shift

49:48

yeah so we're in some some early indications

49:50

of other chefs there's the i would point to

49:53

to sort of two factors the first as we did

49:55

have some you know some movement out

49:57

of the major metropolitan areas and part

49:59

because the opening up of remote were

50:01

a great so we're seeing found some

50:04

sort of noom newer metropolitan area

50:06

the and

50:08

the and and new economic opportunities

50:10

in some areas outside of your you know

50:12

your coastal new york sand and california

50:15

and but the second thing i think that may

50:18

you know accelerate that china it's a little bits

50:20

you early that's how you know but the

50:22

by the ministry and industrial policy

50:24

a i'm is really target bad

50:26

at rebuilding some of that and

50:29

last manufacturing capacity

50:32

on that we that we are soared

50:34

over the last few decades

50:35

the that ladder

50:36

then to they're very precarious bread

50:38

all and supply chain that lacked

50:41

any resilience right the pandemic

50:43

heads and we can even make pp you're covered

50:45

has because we can't make anything right because weeks

50:48

the the big bad on the high wage and knowledge

50:50

economy in the low wage service economy and were like

50:52

full a lot of people make the thing the great i'm

50:55

and it's are now we need to make something so i

50:57

think you know the by the most recent industrial policy

51:00

and is really am targeted

51:02

towards the building some of that manufacturing capacity

51:05

and and in geographic loopholes

51:07

and that then left behind so biden

51:10

within ohio on friday and

51:12

opening up an intel plants and

51:15

you know yellen with into trait last

51:17

weeks at a for a plant rates

51:19

and really trying to use use

51:22

the we have of government but

51:24

the summer moscow and rebuild

51:26

that and diverse economy that

51:28

works for all of us and and that includes

51:31

am in a rebuilding some of that last manufacturing

51:33

capacity in areas that

51:35

have been left behind and

51:38

because of offs right

51:40

when i questioned so oh we

51:42

just went through this whole ah a

51:44

congressional debates about build

51:46

rak better which then became

51:49

ah mostly a climate focus

51:51

bill was some some healthcare and tax policy

51:53

i do to zia they

51:55

agreed of joe manchin interest in cinemas moods

51:59

as we look

51:59

two

52:01

next year what are some

52:03

of the policies either that sell

52:05

out of of bill back better or

52:07

that were never in in the first place

52:09

that that make you excited either about

52:12

what joe biden can do it just

52:14

hundred executive level or what democrats could do

52:17

if we retain control congress

52:20

yeah i mean it's it the

52:22

last month or suspended incredible reversal

52:24

of fortune on the policy friend and

52:26

you know what was a fairly you know

52:28

graham twenty twenty two right we had

52:30

this big moment at the beginning of twenty twenty one

52:32

with the american rescue plan and then

52:35

or sort i was waiting for

52:37

for the next and you know

52:39

moment said to make a difference in people's lives

52:41

and you know just in the last couple weeks straight it

52:43

had been for him reduction asked and the student

52:45

loan forgiveness and in when really

52:48

affecting millions and millions of

52:50

families and but there's a lot

52:52

of unfinished business am unfinished think

52:54

there's definitely more that the me down on the tax

52:56

code and we got those that

52:59

book minimum tax and that fifteen

53:01

percent rate we got you know

53:03

the ira and force match and but we

53:05

didn't get the corporate rate back to

53:07

where it needs to be there's that there's a lot of unfinished

53:09

business on the top side i'm obviously

53:11

need congress to do that but other

53:13

few taxed

53:15

the reasons looming that are always nice

53:17

opportunities for for revisiting

53:19

tax policy and

53:21

i don't think we did enough on the care economy that

53:23

and piece of the go back better agenda with

53:25

complete

53:26

the jonathan we will not

53:28

the at a full strength economy and how we have

53:30

affordable careful thought handsome

53:32

gotta do something they're something they're next couple years

53:35

and i think the other thing that was

53:37

left on a build back better which for hawking

53:39

enough about is having an

53:42

ear the times as adults massive

53:44

amounts of additional and housing supply

53:46

and particularly affordable housing supply it's

53:49

probably a decade ago but

53:51

it's never too late and we're gonna have

53:53

to move on move on how banks

53:55

at something that maybe has bipartisan appeal

53:58

and so i think that's gonna be critical important

54:00

and many others the time on the regulatory

54:03

side and there's is awesome

54:05

leadership of the yell at the consumer

54:07

financial protection bureau at the federal

54:09

trade commission i don't think you

54:11

know rohit so brian unicorn are going to be

54:13

slowing down anytime soon and

54:15

years or decades of work to do

54:17

on on both of those the series and that ain't

54:20

quite a bit to do on that the

54:22

labour front as wow and there's there's

54:24

a handful of things that can happen at the department of

54:26

labor am including increasing the

54:28

overtime wage to something

54:30

you know that our as that that obama made a run i

54:33

am at the very tail end of his presidency

54:35

and just you know wasn't able to get over the finish

54:37

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his little hand to get some member of his team

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to our lives but not our queen elizabeth

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number to a new topic that

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is disgracing the institution of

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the prime time presidential address

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real first election deny years

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with in , to

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or any comment on the state of democracy

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a real on twitter to betty thousand sexy

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people in a mindset or just like loving queen elizabeth

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and i think this is our friend are americans just wish to

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be fucking rules and

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item you to consider okay the

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on it as instructed

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right before we move on the last

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round to recap

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the arrows are pursued a one to one they

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realize with a flash how do you guys think this is going

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so far v segment straight really good

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really good really good little slow result

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, that that

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try to bring a little base yards as you move

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on a topic numbers ladder should

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be a home game for tommy so

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yeah war in ukraine

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the the world are not as is from ukraine the

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survivor i'm i'm russian access

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there's a wide topic for the final one great job

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see guy it was something you their start out sooner

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to sort out the painter and with

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the with the queen by anyone when

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you friend

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this weekend ukrainian fun a stunning counteroffensive

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they retook houston's territory from the russians

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and outperform most expert expectations

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let's look at some takes about it take number

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one

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let's be clear

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no biden already lost somewhere for western

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civilization

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having dinner with south i'm after

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then

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whodunit a teaching critical race theory and russian

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schools

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the number two jesus

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right now things are going very going very

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which is why the ukrainians are so desperate

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the pine administration is trying to figure out how

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they retreat from their dumb position that i've

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taken

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now take number three

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russia wages war united

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states army is training officers on

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gender identity thousand soldiers

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to accept that one can choose their gender

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restrictions within an organization that

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has depended on unity

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which one is the fake

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man does all seemed so real

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i'm versions of them out there i feel

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one or two a day i am

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i'm gonna go on with you can you think

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v re the first you're gonna read a for vivid or yeah we

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need a phone a friend front front okay

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let's be clear joe biden has

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already lost the war for western civilization

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couldn't didn't withdraw from afghanistan

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odin isn't teaching critical reached theory

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and russian schools to put stuffed

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us for it's ah it's take

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them brazil right now things are going

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very very badly which is why the ukrainians

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are so desperate

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the an administration is trying to figure out

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how they retreat from the done position that they

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teach

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that you sound like something tucker carlson

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gonna go to a i can't really torn i

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feel like i'm are now and i just

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don't want it does note i'm going to just

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because it's only way to come back wow favour

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strongmen two point when bar

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out that i felt that i saw this take

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some reason why do is from

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douglas mcgregor who receives a

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more expert he said on suffer carlson show

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right of the started off as i wouldn't

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have had he had and we had and

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cigar once you've got man and then the third most

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basic ted cruz had something similar that

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have been all over the other ones in our bed yet another

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bad press on the washington free beacon yeah

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i'm sure once i saw you are this

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is great yeah the russian army is not showing

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up i love this game this played all the time the time into

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i'd also like to know anyone like to

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implore pro

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ukraine twitter that

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a successful ukrainian offensive

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is not a moment to retweet yourself

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from a few months ago to show how right you are

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that's a weird with your way

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into the air with your twitter pick that says

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really upset them so now decision for some

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real people it's not a tv show awesome with people

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to stop just constantly tweeting videos

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of

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soldiers getting killed on either side like it's that

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system

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snuff a game out game a fight

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wars not not ever ever about men

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and all no long term are more time internet

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is fucked up gifts or anyway that's

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a serious a close thera mail that was my death upon

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my phone records out tomorrow so doses

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of facts and from the fuck rather counteroffensive

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there we go alija thank you for

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our for our inaugural round

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of the to takes and takes fake or

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have throughout the play with dancing and

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also thanks to our when the owns

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or for joining us today is thanks

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