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1:34

Welcome to Pod Save America John Favreau.

1:36

I'm John Lovett. I'm Tommy Vitor. On today's

1:38

show, our final pre election

1:40

pod. We'll talk about how both parties close

1:43

with dueling rallies in Pennsylvania featuring

1:45

Joe Biden, Barack Obama, and Donald Trump,

1:47

what we'll be watching for an election night and what

1:49

it felt like on the ground in Nevada this

1:51

weekend. You also hear from some of the organizers

1:53

and candidates we talk to in Las Vegas. And

1:56

later, we'll play a little game

1:58

about Elon Musk's Twitter. should

2:00

be fun. But first, if you are listening

2:02

to this before polls have closed, you

2:05

can still make a difference in this

2:07

election We are heading down to Irvine

2:09

after we finish recording to help get out the for

2:11

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dot com slash volunteer, We'll have

2:15

all kinds of ways for you to channel your anxiety

2:17

into actual useful action

2:20

right up until the polls closed. So do

2:22

it right now. It matters. Come

2:24

right down to the wire in a whole bunch of different races.

2:27

Alright. Let's get to the news. Three

2:29

presidents, two parties. one

2:31

perennial battleground state of Pennsylvania

2:34

to where all the action was in the final weekend

2:36

of the twenty twenty two midterms in Philadelphia.

2:38

president Biden and Obama spoke a rally for

2:40

Josh Shapiro who was a healthy lead

2:42

over Doug Mastriano in the governor's race

2:44

and John Federman who was somehow tied

2:47

with doctor Oz. Here's

2:49

some of what they said at the event. Oz.

2:52

And

2:52

pension vanion.

2:56

Look,

2:58

I've lived I've lived in Pennsylvania

3:00

longer than Oz

3:01

has lived Pennsylvania.

3:04

And I moved away when I was ten years

3:06

old. This

3:08

guy loves to talk a good game about

3:10

freedom. Right? Let me tell you

3:12

something. It's not freedom to tell women

3:14

what they're allowed to do with their bodies. That's

3:16

not freedom.

3:21

It's freedom to tell our

3:23

children what books they're allowed to

3:25

read.

3:25

It's

3:31

our freedom when he gets to decide

3:34

who you're allowed to marry. I say

3:36

love is love.

3:37

And about

3:39

fundamental values that

3:41

my grandparents from Kansas taught

3:43

me,

3:43

values I grew up with.

3:46

values you grew up with, values

3:48

we try to teach our kids, values

3:51

we learn in churches and my masks

3:53

and synagogues and temples,

3:56

honesty, fairness, opportunity,

3:59

hard work,

3:59

values the gospel zero, and

4:02

John's Federman stand for.

4:04

Values that Joe Biden

4:06

stands

4:07

for. Would you guys think of the Democrat's final

4:09

rally in Philly that the Josh Shapiro.

4:12

Speech got quite a bit of traction. Yeah.

4:14

Seems like that's

4:16

one message box subscriber that we can

4:18

count at least. That was a very fight for

4:20

rift. Yeah. It was great to you know, like, I think because

4:22

Doug Mastrono is such a terrible candidate,

4:25

I think, like, Josh Shapiro has

4:27

had a little bit of space. hasn't

4:29

been sort of covered for how kind of disciplined

4:32

and excellent campaign he's been running.

4:34

But I'm glad to see because he did he's been doing

4:36

a riff like that for quite some time, and it was nice

4:38

to see it get a little

4:39

national attention because I think it

4:41

it wasn't just that it was on message and covering

4:43

a lot of issues that we all think is important.

4:45

It was it was sort of, to me, like,

4:47

oh, like, when when we talk in

4:49

the abstract about Democrats

4:52

trying to take the mantle of freedom and using that as a

4:54

big part of our argument, it's easy to

4:56

imagine it. It's nice to see it in actual practice.

4:58

And it was like, oh, that is like a really powerful

5:00

argument, a broad, big argument

5:02

for a kind of like,

5:04

kind of freedom politics that I think is very

5:06

exciting for us to use going forward regardless what

5:08

happens. Yeah. I

5:09

mean he's a good candidate and it

5:12

was great to see him. I mean, also think there's

5:14

some truth of the fact that you can use

5:16

the same lines on a bigger stage and it just

5:18

sounds bigger and better when you have, like -- Yeah. --

5:20

seven thousand people or whatever it was cheering

5:22

for you. Also the Biden sounded great

5:24

at this event. The line about doctor Oz

5:26

not living in Pennsylvania any

5:28

longer than Biden did and Biden moved when

5:30

he was ten was like funny and effective

5:33

and a good hit. Obama was great.

5:35

So, yeah, I was I was excited to see like a big event

5:37

with a lot of energy at the end of the campaign. one

5:39

of Biden's best lines in the campaign. Yeah.

5:41

It was great. On the Josh Shapiro

5:43

thing, yeah, we have talked a lot about John Federman

5:45

because he's been such an exciting candidate. Josh Shapiro has been

5:47

running a fantastic stick race.

5:49

You're right, he's had an opponent who is

5:52

extreme, has not, like,

5:54

spent any money on television ads,

5:56

has been sort of one of the few Republicans

5:58

that's been kind of sort of abandoned

6:00

by the national party because he said he was gonna

6:02

do forty days of prayer. Yeah. I mean,

6:04

he is like yeah. He like,

6:06

confederate cosplay and everything. And so he's not

6:08

he's not a he's not a great candidate.

6:10

But I would say, like, you heard that riff

6:12

from Shapiro in the clip we just played. There was

6:14

another one where he also said, like, If you

6:16

don't look like Doug Mastriano, if you

6:18

don't vote like him, if you don't read the

6:20

books he reads, he doesn't respect

6:22

you. You're not for him. I just think it was a great we

6:24

talk a lot about how to make democracy

6:27

real and tangible for people and

6:29

how political identity

6:31

is become so powerful as an indicator in

6:33

this country of what you do. And that was a way

6:36

to sort of use identity, but

6:38

also do it broadly. Right?

6:40

Yeah. So there's a wide swath of

6:42

people that Josh Shapiro is is trying to

6:44

appeal to there by saying, like, look, I'm

6:46

the one the Democrats are the one who

6:48

are tolerant of every kind of person here.

6:50

And Doug Mastriano is the one who

6:52

just wants people exactly like him. And

6:54

it's funny. I because I I talked to Joshua a

6:56

couple of weeks ago when we were in I

6:58

guess

6:58

that was the the Philly show, and he

7:01

used all those lines in conversation. he

7:03

used all those riffs in conversation and it's a

7:05

good example of just a politician who's just

7:07

been working it on the stump and kind

7:09

of grinding it out and figure out what works because

7:11

I saw you know,

7:13

I saw him do those lines and I saw them

7:15

really, really work -- Mhmm. -- unlike just

7:17

sort of Philadelphia, our kind of progressive

7:19

audience. But clearly, like, I think he has

7:21

been kind of very, you know,

7:23

smartly kind of really honing

7:25

this message quietly for the last six

7:28

months and he's just so disciplined.

7:30

Even when we talk to him, you just see that he's

7:32

just a incredibly

7:33

disciplined politician. We talk to

7:35

him on Pod Save America, can't get them

7:37

off message. Couldn't get them off message. And we're like, oh, man.

7:39

That guy couldn't we couldn't get them off message. That was

7:41

that was, you know,

7:43

as hard as we pushed. reminds me of what in 0401I

7:46

would be in the office and Obama will walk out to me and

7:48

be like, we worship an awesome God in the blue states. And I'd

7:50

be like, right, but room for cream. or

7:52

you're taking it. And he was like, or Hey, hey, out

7:54

of many one. Right. I'm like Just again.

7:56

Tell me, I could just turn I could just turn my

7:59

my grandmother. To Obama's point that he may

8:02

in the Pod Save America interview where the

8:04

which got a lot of traction when he talked about the Democratic

8:06

Party sometimes being a buzz kill. The antithesis

8:08

of that was Josh Shapiro's message. that

8:10

it that that we are the party that is like Like,

8:12

I'm Trump is open to everyone. That

8:15

is open to everyone. And and Doug Mastiano's

8:18

party is the Buzzkill because they want you

8:20

to think exactly like they do. Like that was

8:22

such a good example of that. On the other side

8:24

of the state, just outside Pittsburgh, Donald

8:26

Trump spoke at Reilly from Mastriano and Oz, where

8:28

he, of course, focused almost

8:30

entirely on his own ambitions and petty

8:33

grievances. Here's a clip. They must think I'm

8:35

going to announce for president, and that that's

8:36

That's a lot. There's

8:39

a lot of people.

8:40

I promise you. In

8:42

the very next very,

8:45

very, very short period of time, You're

8:48

gonna be so happy. Okay. Trump

8:50

at seventy one, Rhonda's

8:53

sanctimonious at ten

8:55

percent Mike Pence, it's heavy.

8:57

Oh, Mike's doing better than I thought. Mike's

8:59

doing better than I thought. It's so

9:01

funny. the first

9:03

of all, I saw so much coverage

9:05

of, like, just sort of getty

9:07

sort of rock hard journalist

9:09

saying he called them to think demonious all

9:11

through the same ceremonies. And

9:13

I thought it was like, when I went to watch the clip, I

9:15

was like, oh, it's gonna be in a riff. But no, he

9:17

just sort of tested it out. He threw it in.

9:20

He's he looked from the camera while he did, he didn't want

9:22

a clip of it. He was just trying to just

9:24

sprinkle it in. It's it's it's the

9:26

difference between, like, so

9:28

many politicians who they got a good line

9:30

from their speech writer or someone, and then they

9:32

deliver it and then look like, I didn't like it.

9:34

Like, he just sort of. Yeah. Yeah.

9:36

Oz has been trying to full people

9:38

into thinking he's a moderate. Why do

9:40

you think he decided to show up with Donald Trump

9:43

the weekend before the election? Kind of

9:45

think he had a think Donald Trump does

9:47

what Donald Trump wants credit for

9:49

any and all victories, and he's starting to smoke

9:51

blood in the water. So he's gonna show up wherever he wants

9:53

to show up to claim credit is my

9:55

guess. Yeah. But, like, I mean, also doctor Oz is

9:57

not smart. He told people that same

9:59

rally. Tomorrow morning, I

9:59

want you to contact ten people, do it before the

10:02

Steelers game.

10:03

Dealers have a buy this week. Okay.

10:05

Amazing. That's outrageous. What does Scott Everybody

10:08

I heard about that from more people than I did.

10:10

Everybody knows it. The dealers have a buy

10:12

game. The Steelers suck. but they had a bi week. They have a

10:14

bi week. They couldn't live. I think someone would let him know

10:16

that. You'd you'd think. The I

10:18

mean, he also went to, you know, the accretive

10:20

thing. Yeah. It's it's also part

10:22

of the sort of dynamic that we've seen for the

10:24

last couple weeks, which is Republicans

10:26

are viewing kind of base

10:28

events that turn out their base

10:31

as worth it even if they're in some ways alienating

10:33

to some of the independents. Like, you have

10:35

these big rallies for

10:37

for JD Vance. You have Trump out

10:39

there, but then Tim Ryan doesn't want the Democrats

10:41

out there. You have kind of it's just a we're

10:43

it's just they're playing for different people, and I think,

10:45

what we've all set, you know, if if Republicans

10:47

have this massive turnout machine in the midterms and

10:49

if we can match it, we can match it, but

10:52

they're relying trying to get that whole whole

10:54

base out. Yeah. They're relying on a base only strategy. Yeah.

10:56

And especially doctor Oz, because doctor Oz

10:58

took some it took him some time to consolidate the

11:00

Republican base longer than a lot of the other

11:02

candidate, so he probably felt like he needed this in the end.

11:05

And their bet is probably that, like, if he

11:07

ends up winning independent, it's gonna be larger

11:09

forces that help him win the independents.

11:11

Like, people just being pissed about the

11:13

economy, and so whether Trump is there or not, it's not

11:15

gonna make a huge difference to him.

11:17

NBC reported that Trump very

11:19

seriously considered announcing for president at that

11:21

rally, but advisers convinced him not

11:23

to. Though as you heard, he did say he

11:25

will very, very probably do it. And

11:27

also, we're recording this Monday

11:29

morning. I just saw Jonathan Swan

11:31

from Axias Report that

11:33

a bunch of Republicans think

11:35

that he possibly Trump possibly could

11:37

announce that he's running today or

11:39

tonight at the JDV Antarelli in

11:41

Ohio. I think they got, like,

11:43

he's a TV guy. He's a TV producer. He's just, like,

11:45

to tease and tease and tease. But at this

11:47

point, it's, like, you know when watching a show

11:49

that was written for network or for

11:51

some sort of like a show with commercials.

11:53

And you're watching on Netflix. and

11:55

it'll repeat the last, like,

11:57

minute of whatever you just watched after the where

11:59

the commercial break was supposed to be. That's what I feel

12:01

like with Trump. every time --

12:04

Yeah. -- repeating, teasing, teasing. It's not gonna happen. He's

12:06

gonna do it at some point. He's gonna do it at some point. I I just

12:08

think that there's, like, we've been wondering lost

12:10

in the, like, last couple weeks of the midterms

12:12

is, like, John's gonna run for president president. Yeah. Like the The

12:14

the paperwork he's sending in to the FEC

12:16

is gonna, like, pass the justice department

12:19

paperwork in the mail. but they're like,

12:21

hey, he's in a race against time. Yeah.

12:23

Look, III do think that, like,

12:25

if he's not I'd be I'd be very surprised,

12:27

you know, prove me wrong. This this whole episode is gonna turn

12:29

to fucking Brown banana in seven seconds anyway.

12:32

Yeah. But but, like,

12:34

if you're gonna announce, you don't know, it's Monday night.

12:36

You announced on Tuesday night when the whole country is

12:38

watching. He's seen good returns come in. He goes to

12:40

Mike and he does it. But he clearly wants to

12:42

do it fast because if he's gonna get

12:44

indicted, he wants to be indicted for

12:46

political purposes. Yeah.

12:47

Or he can do it after he gets indicted either. He's

12:49

Yeah. Either way, there's a case for him. Yeah. Yeah.

12:51

There's triple, like, we gotta invite him first. I'm like, guys. No.

12:53

He doesn't. I'm not saying No. I don't have the

12:55

same person. So everyone else because we have been getting some

12:57

questions about that. It's like, no. No. If he gets in debt, he's still gonna

12:59

run for president. No. No. No. No.

13:01

No. No. Yeah. Well, I'll I'll always be chastened.

13:04

Speaking of Jason, do you think Ron DeSantis is Jason

13:06

after that? I I heard some there are a lot of

13:08

Republicans close to DeSantis who are

13:10

outraged outraged that try lump did this.

13:12

Republicans love sanctimonious

13:14

politicians. What are you talking about? Have you seen Mike

13:16

Pence? They're all sanctimonious. They sound like

13:18

criticism. you know what? I know we've gone back and

13:20

forth a few times at least I have on, like,

13:22

could DeSantis do it? Could DeSantis take

13:24

Trump down? It doesn't seem like he's even

13:27

gonna run at this point. Tom Cotton's

13:29

out. I I

13:29

love the Tom Cotton's out. I like the Tom

13:32

Cotton things he decided to not become

13:34

president as opposed to the entire country. being like you

13:36

have a repellent personality. Yeah. Yeah.

13:38

I don't know. I mean, we'll see. We'll see what the

13:40

we'll see what happens with the sanctum on it. It was

13:42

it was good timing. I wonder if Trump saw

13:44

that that video, that

13:46

the DeSantis campaign made saying that

13:48

God created Ron DeSantis

13:50

on the eighth day -- Yeah. -- which is

13:52

one of the most sanctimonious things -- Mhmm. -- I've

13:54

ever seen in my entire life. So it was

13:56

AAA fitting nickname. Two

13:58

sets of footsteps. One of them run

14:00

to Santa Cruz. Yeah.

14:02

Oh, mom was carrying On the eighth

14:04

day. Imagine

14:05

imagine your job is to pave

14:08

roads and keep the schools funded. And you put out

14:10

a fucking ad that says on the

14:12

eighth day, God created

14:14

me.

14:15

Would you read the game? Is he is he is he is he

14:18

begging the voters? He's like he's a

14:20

most disgusting thing. He's a weird

14:22

guy. Yeah. It is a nickname that does

14:24

draw quite a sanctioned and put the

14:26

charisma that Donald Trump has versus the

14:28

lack of charisma the right to say. I

14:30

still I still like miss Florida.

14:32

Yeah. I think you can be syncedimonious

14:35

with a lot of charisma. Look at, like,

14:37

every bible thumping preacher

14:39

on TV on Sunday. Right? I mean, I don't

14:41

know. We'll see we'll see if this sticks. Alright. We

14:43

got one last set of polls and predictions from

14:45

pollsters and forecasters over the weekend.

14:47

The consensus is that Republicans are favored to

14:49

win the House the forecast for the

14:51

number of seats ranges from the low teens to

14:53

the forties, so everyone

14:55

knows the average loss for a president's party in

14:57

their first midterm is twenty seven.

14:59

Clinton lost fifty four, Obama lost

15:01

sixty three, and Trump lost

15:03

forty. But the generic

15:05

ballot polling average right now also has

15:07

Republicans ahead by just one point. So

15:09

who knows? The senate is a real

15:11

toss-up with margin of error races for

15:13

Democratic incumbents in Arizona, Georgia,

15:15

Nevada, and New Hampshire. as well as the open Senate

15:17

seat in Pennsylvania. There were also tight

15:19

governors races in Arizona, Michigan, Wisconsin,

15:21

Nevada, and even New Mexico,

15:23

and Oregon. we, of course, don't do

15:25

predictions here. kinda damn one or not.

15:27

So instead, I will ask you guys how

15:29

you're feeling and what you're watching for in

15:31

election night, what races are you going to be

15:33

paying close attention to? What trends are you looking for? What are

15:35

some of the big questions you want answered? I

15:37

mean, I'm emotionally prepared for some

15:39

losses. just gonna throw that out there because that tends

15:41

to happen in the first midterm of a

15:44

a president's first term.

15:47

So I'm really watching

15:50

closely Pennsylvania because

15:53

I feel like there's sort of choose your own

15:55

adventure vibe to the polling coming out of

15:57

Pennsylvania, the senate race there in

15:59

Georgia. We just got back

16:01

from Nevada. We

16:02

got to meet some really great candidates. I

16:04

want all of them to win the

16:06

United States, Susie Lee, we

16:08

saw Jackie Rosen. while we're

16:11

some tater tots at a restaurant to listen to the

16:13

airport. So I don't know. That's those are

16:15

the those are the races I'm watching. I'm also

16:17

watching to see the hijinks that occur

16:19

in the days after the election when we're still counting mail

16:21

in votes. So I'm getting increasingly anxious about

16:23

that. Yeah.

16:24

I'm I wanna understand

16:27

I know we won't know this for a while, but

16:29

I'm most interested in

16:31

seeing in detail

16:33

how

16:35

abortion and choice played out and

16:38

where it drove engagement and where it didn't. You know, we've

16:40

been talking about this in a couple of different places that you

16:42

start to see that you know, we had hoped, I

16:44

think, especially right afteroms when there was this

16:46

moment of enthusiasm that it really might lead

16:48

to kind of a wave of

16:50

engagement and voting for people coming

16:52

to kind protective abortion rights.

16:54

And my concern is in

16:55

places where, like, California where we

16:57

can put prop one through

17:00

and protect abortion rights in the States? Did it

17:02

not have as big of an impact on

17:04

other national races? In a

17:06

lot of places you see

17:08

kind of signaling from Republican politicians to

17:10

let their voters to let voters know that

17:12

they're not as big of a threat to

17:15

abortion rights as national Republicans are,

17:17

like, will that have an impact? Are people voting

17:19

this as a values thing

17:21

as a practical protection

17:24

in where they live thing or some combination.

17:26

So that's like the I wanna understand how that

17:28

plays out because especially if Republicans

17:30

take the house and

17:33

or the senate, we will have national

17:35

Republicans pushing for a nationwide ban. I just wanna

17:37

understand how important and salient that's gonna be

17:39

for people And the other piece of it is, you know, you see these

17:41

polls. They are have not

17:43

been great. But,

17:45

like, I wanna I'm I'm curious

17:47

how Gen Z turns out in this midterm.

17:49

Do they overperform? Do they underperform? Do

17:51

they hit what we expected? That is the

17:53

thing that I am most interested in.

17:56

Yeah. So you have all the the forecasters

17:58

and the polls and stuff like that. There's also

18:00

a political scientist do these

18:03

predictions. and they do it like

18:05

a year in advance. And it's based on

18:07

sort of the president's approval, historic trends,

18:09

the economy. And for

18:12

this midterm with inflation like this

18:15

and it being president Biden's first

18:17

term, they predict,

18:19

like, you know, forty something seats

18:21

that Democrats would lose. Right? And then lose the Senate

18:23

for sure. And so I am

18:25

very inter and and I would say also that

18:28

in the last couple basically, ever since twenty sixteen, twenty

18:30

sixteen, twenty eighteen, twenty twenty, I think

18:32

sometimes at the end of the race, the

18:34

narrative in the polls sort

18:36

of mismatch the fundamentals. And

18:39

so, like, in eighteen, we thought it was gonna

18:41

be a huge blue wave, and it

18:43

ended up like the Republicans kept the senate. in

18:45

twenty. It suddenly looked like Biden was, like,

18:47

up by eight, nine, ten, and some of these states

18:49

ended up being a super close race. So

18:52

the standard of, like, where the

18:54

baseline for this race is, democrats

18:56

lose up to forty seats and probably

18:58

the senate. If we beat that, it's

19:00

gonna be interesting to see how much candidate quality

19:02

really matters because we have talked all

19:04

through this election season that we

19:06

have nominated some really fantastic Democratic

19:09

candidates on especially watching Federman in

19:11

Pennsylvania, Warrnock in

19:13

Georgia. We all love Katie Porter

19:15

here in California, right in

19:17

Southern California. and and they have

19:19

nominated some truly terrible candidates,

19:21

especially in the Senate. And the question

19:23

is, how much does candidate quality matter?

19:25

Or is this just gonna

19:27

depend on the national environment in fort

19:29

larger forces. New Hampshire is a big example of

19:31

that too. John Baltic is a

19:33

certified lunatic up to the Republican

19:35

running up there. And by the way, I mean, it's it's not

19:37

just that republicans have nominated terrible people

19:39

in the Senate. They've nominated absolutely

19:41

abysmal candidates in the House, and you

19:43

even have Mitch McConnell, when

19:45

he was asked, why is Kevin McCarthy seeming

19:47

to be doing better in the polls than you are? And he

19:49

said, well, because the candidate quality in

19:51

the senate matters, what he was saying is Oh,

19:53

Kevin McCarthy's running a bunch of fucking morons,

19:55

dope, and goons, but nobody knows who's running

19:57

for the house. They vote more like by the ticket. Yeah.

19:59

Like, masters and the one up. But guys forget about the

20:01

house, the senate. the future of

20:03

the democracy. The the pollsters are the ones

20:05

on the hot seat Tuesday night. You know what

20:07

I mean? The

20:08

nates are on the hot seat,

20:10

Harry Yantin, We're watching

20:11

you, G Elliott, guy

20:14

at the

20:14

-- Tom and I -- G Elliott. --

20:16

sleep with one eye open. I think that

20:18

basically For fall gear, I think

20:21

I think all the nates I think there's I think there's what

20:23

ten nates at this point. Right? They've been whatever

20:25

number of nates, basically. But ebbs and flows by

20:28

the day. But I think that all

20:30

nades should have basically you should

20:32

have, like, a a long board

20:34

and the edge of the board should be

20:36

hanging over a pool -- Mhmm. -- and you

20:38

should be standing on the board, and they should have to take a step further

20:40

and further out on the board as the night

20:42

moves along, and whoever's model is

20:44

better gets to walk back off. But

20:46

otherwise, you jump off your side. I'm sorry. Are you a

20:48

pirate? Are they walking the plane? It's a pool. I'm not

20:50

trying to kill anybody. What is the pool? The

20:52

refreshing dip. Yeah. It's just a kind of dump

20:54

tank situation. and just have more sound

20:56

good. Sounds fun. What's seriously in the

20:58

polls? If they are wrong again in the same way

21:00

they were wrong in twenty eighteen and

21:02

twenty twenty, Like No. There's very poor.

21:04

And everyone's like, well, they were pretty right in twenty

21:06

twenty. Yeah. In in twenty eighteen. Yeah. They were

21:08

pretty accurate in twenty except

21:10

in certain places where then they were very wrong again in twenty

21:12

twenty and had been wrong in the same trip. It's nonresponse

21:15

bias with noncollege educated voters. If we have

21:17

that problem again, time

21:19

to fucking We're so to do what? What do you

21:21

want them to do, John? Well, just admit that that's the

21:23

problem because every time after the election, a

21:25

bunch of you'll heal from a bunch of nates that

21:27

are like, well, it's just sometimes

21:29

the directions the the polling errors in the other directions,

21:31

like, it hasn't been in the other direction for a while. Yeah. I

21:33

just don't know what I wanna under we'll see, but it's

21:35

a sort of, like, Like like, it just seems

21:37

like each time they should be correcting for that. And

21:39

the next time it should be corrected for it.

21:41

I'm also wondering, like, does the twenty eighteen

21:43

anti Trump coalition show up -- Right.

21:45

-- in the midterm. It was a record turnout in twenty

21:48

eighteen, and people who turned

21:50

out people turned out in the midterm that usually just

21:52

turned out in presidential elections on the

21:54

democratic side. Will those folks still show

21:56

up? Will the Trump voters from

21:58

sixteen and twenty who often don't vote in midterms

22:00

show up? And then make it

22:02

another extremely high turnout election

22:04

Obviously, I'm gonna be looking at how many election

22:06

deniers win. Very interested, and

22:08

this is one we'll it'll also take some time

22:10

to figure out Like, how do

22:12

Democrats do with working class

22:15

voters, especially working class Latino

22:17

voters and black men who we've

22:19

seen some some losses

22:21

with recent elections. And

22:23

then, do we have trouble in blue

22:25

places like Oregon, New

22:27

York, the mayor's race here in Los

22:30

Angeles, which I know is between two

22:32

Democrats. Yeah. They were in big trouble. I mean,

22:34

the the the mayor's race here in Los

22:36

Angeles speaks to the broader problem

22:38

that we're all just in nerd to and don't talk

22:40

about anymore, which is the utterly broken

22:42

campaign finance process that we have

22:44

that leads to a Georgia race, I think,

22:46

costing two hundred and fifty million

22:48

dollars all in. Yeah. A quarter of a billion

22:50

dollars. A quarter of a billion dollars.

22:52

and it's brand and it's gonna go to run up. Very likely to

22:54

go to a run up. Oh, god. It's gonna run

22:56

up and just keep getting more emails. It's like, hi,

22:58

John. It's Rafael. I'm holding a doc

23:00

and off the edge of a cliff. I do donate

23:02

seven dollars and fifty cents right

23:04

now. Guys, I gotta admit something really

23:07

embarrassing. I I saw

23:09

an email in my my

23:11

Gmail the other day from

23:13

Adam Schiff, and it was, like, hey, hope

23:15

you're well -- You got caught. -- and the trick

23:17

or treaters you know, have been fun. And

23:19

I was like, oh, cool. Adam Schiff emailed

23:21

me fundraising. And you know that's not Jennifer

23:23

Lopez in your DM. Right? Even

23:25

though she did send an old picture of

23:27

her. weird. Actually, when usually when

23:29

people text you, they send a picture of themselves. Right? In

23:31

the text, and they don't have they don't ask for your

23:34

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23:34

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let's do something

26:55

useful for people listening. Like, when should people

26:57

expect to know the results in some of these big

26:59

races. Go to

27:03

bed. Wake up. Do a day of

27:05

work. Go to bed and then

27:07

wake up. and then we should know. Okay.

27:09

That's good. I I have I have a

27:11

list. Big states will know an election night,

27:13

New Hampshire, Florida, Virginia,

27:15

the account of it's pretty fast. We'll probably know everything. In Virginia, there

27:17

will be some swingy districts that will

27:19

give us a signal about where everything's going

27:22

very important what time he just said. Dave Wasserman

27:24

says, these are the ones to watch in Virginia.

27:26

So if Elaine Luria holds on

27:28

in Virginia too, It should be

27:30

a better night for Democrats than expected. If

27:33

Abigail's Spanberger loses in Virginia

27:35

seven, it's likely that Republicans

27:38

win over twenty seats if

27:40

any coaster in New Hampshire or Jennifer

27:42

Wexen in Virginia lose -- You're on the nerves?

27:44

-- Republicans are likely to win over thirty

27:46

seats. This all according to, you know, it's

27:48

Dave Wassa, man, who has seen enough. John could have slipped in

27:50

a fake race there, and we would have No.

27:53

No. No. cool. Yeah. Those are the big ones. We'll

27:55

know in election night. Wednesday,

27:57

Not until Wednesday, Pennsylvania,

28:00

Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin. It's

28:02

likely that not until election day or

28:04

even on Wednesday, some of those states can

28:06

even start counting in ballots and absentee

28:08

ballots because of which And

28:10

Republicans passing laws to make it so Pennsylvania

28:12

Republicans. Yeah. And then even

28:14

longer than Wednesday, Nevada.

28:16

Mhmm. They their account balance up until

28:18

November fifteenth, Arizona, which

28:21

is basically a mostly mainland state.

28:23

And right here in California, Covered --

28:25

Sure. -- California. The mayor's

28:27

race, the congressional races here, it could

28:29

be a couple weeks. So just so everyone

28:31

knows. There are gonna be some hot

28:33

takes about what's happening in California. Some will come from us.

28:35

Some from us in the northern. We'll try to keep

28:37

them cooler. If it's really close from us and we need

28:39

to do kind of like Brooks

28:41

Brothers' riot, insurrection kind

28:43

of thing. Yeah. Mhmm. Meach you had blue ribbon sushi

28:45

at the grove? Yeah. For sure. What kind

28:47

of insurrection would just We're just

28:49

doing a sit in a Understood. And it's looking like Russo's winning. We're gonna

28:51

be like, we were always for Rick Russo. Our wonderful

28:53

day. I'm not I'm not going to the grove anymore.

28:56

We're going

28:58

to grove. It's where we keep our cheesecake factory.

29:00

Yeah. It's a great

29:02

cheesecake factory. Finally, we're about one

29:04

of the Americana. So

29:07

just two of them.

29:09

Alright. We're about to hear from some

29:11

of the organizers, volunteers and candidates we talked to

29:13

in Nevada over the weekend. Before we do, we should

29:15

talk a bit about how it felt on the ground out there.

29:17

What do you guys think? It felt good out

29:19

there. I mean, I don't know. We met a lot of really

29:22

great volunteers. democracy feels better on the ground when

29:24

you're not on Twitter yelling at

29:26

nates. And we met a lot of really awesome

29:28

volunteers who were you know, the

29:30

in campaign office is at nine AM on

29:32

Saturday and Sunday, getting ready to knock doors

29:34

and, you know, for Susie Lee and for

29:36

Denatitis and Nevada Democratic

29:38

Party. Yeah.

29:38

It's like were talking to one activist. Like,

29:41

she has a full time job, she has two

29:43

kids, and she's organizing to

29:45

pass the equal rights amendment in Nevada

29:47

and doing endorsements and knocking

29:49

on doors. And it's like, god, what do you mind?

29:51

What a bunch of lazy oops we are? when good

29:53

people. No cynicism everywhere. Everyone's

29:56

so excited. It's just like I

29:58

know it sounds cheesy when you say, like, oh, it makes

29:59

you go feel better to go knock on

30:02

doors, but you know, we left that

30:04

event Sunday morning with Susie Lee

30:06

and all those volunteers. We're like, yeah. Like, it

30:08

was obviously the the bigger picture looks

30:10

pretty bleak right now, but, like, these people are they're they're

30:12

turning out. They're working hard. It was -- Yeah. --

30:14

love it gotten a pitched battle with

30:16

a amherst

30:18

sophomore on Yeah.

30:20

You'll be more than just cooler, Williams or

30:22

Amber. In the package. We yeah. Stay tuned for

30:24

that. For battle. It's a debate where everybody lives. Oh,

30:26

kid got the last one. We should also say, by the way. It was

30:28

great, by the way. We've warned you against looking too much

30:30

into the early vote, but we've kept saying that

30:32

the exception is Nevada and

30:34

John Ralston, who knows the

30:36

data in that state better than almost anyone and has

30:39

accurately predicted most of the big races

30:41

over the last decade. So his final

30:43

predictions last night where

30:45

that Katherine Cortez Masto holds on, that

30:47

Steve Syslak, the Democratic governor loses,

30:50

and that Democrats hold two

30:52

of the three house seats

30:54

he thinks that Susan Lee doesn't doesn't eke it out, which would piss me

30:56

off because she was wonderful. I mean, she was very good. She

30:58

was really And any of those states that when

31:01

the secretary of state and AG

31:03

races, is good because they're up and down crazy fucking

31:05

election deniers. Oh. So we'll see. Ralston

31:07

could be wrong. From from Ralston's lips

31:09

to God's ears, as we always say. That's what

31:11

we always say. John Ralston, Nevada

31:14

independent. He's a great reporter. Mhmm.

31:16

Alright. With that, let's hear more from some

31:18

of the folks that we met in Las Vegas.

31:20

This

31:20

is producer Olivia Martinez.

31:23

We're here in

31:24

campaign headquarters. We've got

31:26

a big sign that says days until

31:28

election day, three. Another

31:30

sign that says Trump Putin, twenty

31:33

four.

31:33

Shake it out. Shake. Shake. Shake.

31:36

Shake. Hi. name is Shay? It is. My name is

31:38

Shay. So, wait, why did you wanna come here and knock on

31:40

doors?

31:40

It's been on my to do list of Canvas, and I've been

31:43

kicking myself to do it for the

31:45

past three or four months.

31:47

And I realized today is the this weekend's the last

31:50

opportunity. And I woke up at eight fifty

31:52

five, and it's nine thirty one,

31:54

and I'm here.

31:54

And just because it's audio medium. I do want people

31:57

to understand that Shay is wearing

31:59

Saturday

31:59

morning sunglasses indoors. Oh,

32:02

I

32:02

you're lucky I brush my teeth. I

32:04

wouldn't be doing interview if I forgot to do that -- Oh, yeah. --

32:06

really close.

32:07

What gets you up to kind of come here?

32:09

What what issues are, like, the most important to you

32:12

personally?

32:13

abortion access and women's rights

32:15

to choose as a huge issue. But

32:17

every time I listen to the news and they

32:19

talk about the

32:22

democracy stuff, January sixth stuff, that affects everything. So

32:24

that democracy is the number

32:26

one issue. My name is Margie Feldman,

32:29

and I am the chapter

32:32

lead of Nevada Jewish stems.

32:34

I'm I'm here for so many reasons

32:36

today, and it gives me a lot of

32:38

to not be afraid,

32:41

but actually

32:41

go out there and talk to

32:44

people. And then we find most

32:46

people want the freedoms, even

32:49

if they're not willing to say that or put

32:51

that sign on their front lawn.

32:53

What keeps me in this fight is I

32:55

know what the world can be. I know

32:57

what freedom feels like. I know

32:59

what democracy feels like. And it's

33:02

important that we don't give

33:04

get up. We're here at the Nevada Victory

33:06

Democratic

33:06

headquarters. There's a lot of

33:09

really excited canvassers. We're just so

33:11

fired up. Can

33:13

we get your name what do here? Yeah. So my name is

33:15

Hutch. I'm the deputy GOTV director here

33:17

in Nevada Democratic victory. That's my

33:20

title, but around the high school program. Awesome. Can

33:21

you tell us a little more about the high school program and how

33:23

it came to be? Yeah. So, I

33:24

mean, really, we just knew that

33:27

going on this community specifically was gonna

33:29

make a break this entire election. Right? So it's

33:31

really important to do that kind of early investment

33:33

here and making sure that we had good messengers to do

33:35

that investment. And these kids were basically can't think

33:37

of anybody better to do that. Right? So ninety

33:39

percent of our program is bilingual. Everybody

33:41

is from this neighborhood specifically. And

33:43

everybody, you know, a lot of time they might knock on the

33:45

door where they know their they know their mom

33:47

something like that that lives in that neighborhood. So we

33:49

knew that was gonna be really important, and so we

33:51

started investing in this program all the way back

33:53

in July. You know, our first shift, we only

33:55

had, like, twenty kids at and now we're doing, like, forty

33:57

every three hours. I mean, this is the

33:59

selection's way too important to sit out. Right? I mean,

34:01

Republicans, right, their solution to inflation, things

34:03

like that are to take your grandma's health insurance and

34:05

make it harder women to buy getting

34:07

to get healthcare really. Right? So they're not a serious

34:09

party that has serious solutions. We are. Right? Like,

34:11

we gotta be the adults in this room.

34:13

We gotta fight against you rising

34:15

healthcare costs. We gotta make sure we're bringing good jobs

34:17

here in Nevada. And I know that these candidates are

34:19

doing that, and these kids are just the best messenger we could

34:22

ever possibly do that. I love it.

34:24

Where are we at? We are in Henderson, Nevada. We are now

34:26

in a strip mall parking lot waiting

34:29

for a rideshare to take

34:32

us to a diner. To take us to a

34:34

diner. Thanks so much.

34:36

Hi. I'm John. What's your name? Sandra, and

34:38

you're here today knock on some doors? Hey. I'm here

34:40

today to knock some doors. I actually go to

34:42

Amherst, so I thought you would not be pleased with.

34:44

Some two bit some two bit

34:46

college and mass age use

34:48

it. Yeah. So

34:50

I can came out for the election to to knock on

34:52

some doors to get some votes. I

34:54

couldn't stay back in Massachusetts where we

34:56

know what's gonna happen, so I wanted to come

34:58

out and

35:00

help What year are you? sophomore. Look at this. Look

35:02

at how look how young sophomores

35:04

are now. Look at

35:06

how young they've become. It's so

35:09

ducks. It goes to some dump in Massachusetts.

35:11

They're only the worst people go to. I could

35:13

say the same about

35:16

Williams. This interview

35:18

is over. Alright. So we're in the car. We are heading from

35:20

we're in the east side? We're yes. We're

35:22

in the east side of Las Vegas

35:24

to the two PM event where

35:28

death, congresswoman Titus.

35:29

Love is fading fast. Those four

35:32

espresso shots not holding you

35:34

over. Oh, Thank

35:38

you. Hi. Nice

35:38

to meet you. Nice to meet you. Hey, good

35:40

to you, guys.

35:42

Hey, guys.

35:43

You too.

35:46

Everyone here understands the stakes in

35:48

this election. Everyone here understands that

35:52

that that choices at stake.

35:55

that protecting Medicare and Social Security is

35:57

at stake. That having people that will actually fight

35:59

to lower

35:59

costs for people versus fighting for the

36:02

richest and biggest corporation in this country is at stake. Everyone here

36:04

understands what's at stake. You know, we we

36:06

hosted a show Pod Save America. We we started

36:08

this media

36:10

company because we were frustrated. We were frustrated because we felt like

36:12

the big outlets

36:13

don't really tell people the stakes. They treat it like

36:16

a game. And on top of we

36:18

have all this noise on social media that

36:20

confuses and confounds and spreads misinformation.

36:22

And then on top of that,

36:25

We have Fox News and all of its satellites

36:27

that are drowning us in misleading and

36:29

and deceptive information to try to

36:31

scare people, divide people, drive

36:33

people, to focus on on on our worst instincts rather

36:36

than than our best. And we have

36:38

tens of millions, hundreds of millions

36:40

of dollars of dark money dropping on top

36:42

of us ever every single day.

36:44

And and so whose job is

36:46

it to tell people what's really at stake? Because

36:48

we know if they understood, if they really got

36:50

what would what's on the ballot that we would win. I see moms demand action

36:52

that people would understand the

36:54

the stakes between gun safety

36:56

and deregulation

36:58

that So who is gonna do that work? Well, it's gonna be us in the stretch

37:00

of this election knocking on doors. The

37:02

media won't do it. There's a lot of people

37:04

trying to hurt not help

37:07

But if we go door to door and have the most

37:09

effective interactions that anyone can have, which is face

37:11

to face interactions or or or person

37:13

to person interactions, if we can do that

37:15

you know, here in Nevada. If you do that across

37:18

the country, we will win. So thank you all

37:20

for coming out to do that work, to close

37:22

that gap because everybody here

37:24

gets it, Now it's our job to

37:26

go make sure our friends and our family and our neighbors get it. So thank you so

37:28

much.

37:31

My name is Vandy

37:32

Starks, and I live here

37:34

in Henderson, Nevada. And I would like

37:36

to say this, if you don't want to

37:39

find yourself behind the eight

37:41

ball in January. And you

37:43

don't wanna see your

37:45

Social Security benefit it's chopped. Your health

37:48

care, chopped. Your

37:50

right to choose ladies.

37:53

Your right to choose chopped. If you

37:55

don't wanna see your taxes go

37:58

up in the top one percent, get

37:59

that big

38:02

and cut again. Let's not go backward.

38:04

Let's move forward. You know,

38:06

I'd like to see Nevada move forward.

38:08

And so that's why I vote

38:12

of blue ticket all the way down, and I'm gonna

38:14

continue to do that. And let's go

38:16

to that. My name is Mark.

38:19

work, and I'm out today with

38:21

EDF Action. It's the advocacy partner of the

38:23

Environmental Defense Fund. And the thing about living

38:25

in Vegas is I think we're living

38:27

in the mill a desert and we're acutely aware

38:29

that our water supply is finite. If we

38:32

don't do some pretty drastic

38:34

things to deal with that this

38:36

whole swath of the country may be

38:38

uninhabited in, you know, twenty years.

38:40

And some of our elected leaders

38:42

here in Vegas have made tremendous steps. And we've keep

38:44

electing leaders who are gonna

38:46

keep pushing that and fighting that and

38:48

and spring

38:50

lift changes. here with Congress of

38:51

Indina Titus. In the

38:54

home stretch, how's it going out there?

38:56

How's it feel? What are the vibes? Well, it's

38:58

been

38:58

a tough election, and that's

39:00

why we're working so hard to get all of the voters

39:02

out that we need. Some

39:04

is mail in, some is coming to the

39:06

polls, and that'll happen on Tuesday, of course, but I'm

39:09

feeling more optimistic because we got so many

39:11

people on the ground. We got a good

39:13

game going. Everybody, unions

39:16

are working and I think it's gonna pull it

39:18

through.

39:18

Do you have one thing you'd wanna say

39:19

to people who are listening or

39:22

either who

39:24

live in Nevada or have family and friends out there. What would

39:26

you say to them? It's Monday night.

39:28

I'd say

39:28

it's critical to turn out

39:32

because

39:32

the issues are so clear and

39:34

the differences are so stark between

39:36

what we stand for and what they

39:38

stand for. If you wanna move forward,

39:40

come mountain boat for us. If you want to slide

39:43

back to the good old days that weren't that damn

39:45

good for a lot of people,

39:46

they're your candidates. I

39:48

got you a vote today. Let me tell you how. Okay. I

39:50

hit my limit on the ATM. So I

39:52

had to get a cash advance. Uh-huh. And

39:54

I was talking to the cash

39:56

at the casino. And I and she saw my hat. And she said, you think I should

39:59

vote on Tuesday? I'm pretty busy

40:00

on Tuesday. She's like, I always vote for the Democrats. And

40:02

I said, have you seen some of these

40:04

people that

40:06

gina tightest up against, that Catherine Cortez Massto is up against. He's like, yeah,

40:08

they're pretty nuts, aren't that? because maybe I should make some time to

40:11

vote. So I just want you to know. Wow.

40:14

Because I lost. Thank

40:16

you so much. So

40:18

quickly. Got

40:20

you.

40:22

you go to

40:23

every casino on the strip, and I'll do that in the

40:25

door to door. So

40:26

I went to the bathroom for

40:28

one minute and I come out in

40:32

my my coworkers, my partners, my co hosts,

40:34

best friends, are doing a pop

40:36

up press conference with them. Yeah. Sorry. The

40:38

congresswoman showed up and she's like,

40:41

aren't there supposed to be three of you, isn't one called

40:43

Tommy? Yeah. Tommy came back and then took

40:45

pictures of us because he thinks it's funny when

40:47

he sees us pretending to be like politicians

40:50

and we find it extremely embarrassing.

40:53

But nonetheless, look, I think

40:55

we did a

40:55

great job and we did it. We closed the deal.

40:57

We closed the deal for Nevada.

41:00

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44:33

Oh, hi. Thank you for having me. Thanks for coming

44:35

back. Of course. Well, yeah. I was like I

44:38

refused, but begged me to

44:40

have Tim back on and

44:42

I agreed. This is true. But on the

44:44

lighter

44:44

side of things, I guess, hypothetically,

44:46

by which I being the light of the burning pirate

44:49

that is Twitter, Elad Mosk has officially paused the rollout of

44:51

his new Twitter blue, which of course famously was

44:53

gonna be seven ninety nine for a monthly

44:56

subscription to get

44:58

a check. was initially scheduled to start today. They kind of

45:00

soft launched it over the weekend. It didn't really go

45:02

well. But fortunately, the new

45:04

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45:06

November ninth.

45:08

providing Twitter successful at allegedly trying to hire back a lot

45:10

of the people they fired, apparently they're doing that. So

45:12

things are going great over there. And I just wanted to

45:14

add before we play the game. Did you see his

45:18

tweet to, like, who he thinks you should

45:19

vote for and why? Yeah. And I just wanna read it for the

45:20

a case of viewer, if you're not

45:23

on Twitter, he tweeted shared power curves,

45:25

the worst excesses of both party,

45:27

therefore, recommend voting for Republican congress

45:29

given that the presidency is democratic.

45:31

That might be the craziest thing he he's

45:34

ever said. Oh, I don't

45:35

know at this point. He's just a real ass one. He's just

45:36

a low he's just a low information voter. He thinks

45:39

he's a high information Yeah.

45:42

And I do think Lovett should be put on trial at the Hague forever.

45:44

I'd lolly ever say that he's genius, which

45:46

has come up, and I think it should

45:48

be put to task. I'm sorry.

45:50

I reject -- Card drives itself. -- I reject the dogma that says

45:52

that you must hate everyone absolutely if

45:55

you disagree with them politically. The

45:58

guy did start a rocket company. Well, I think he's smart. So I love

45:59

him. I think just because he wants to love

46:02

him. He's good at building

46:04

rockets and

46:06

electric cars. and he's bad at politics and communication. You can be a

46:08

genius asshole. Yes. And that's what we're

46:10

talking about. III don't like him.

46:12

I don't

46:14

think he's do that. You love him. You love him. I love him. Your car is

46:16

you drive your car, own that. I

46:18

do. Love it. Love it. I already paid for Twitter

46:21

Blue. Actually, that's that's a good segway, Raymond. What is

46:23

that true? Did you?

46:25

No. Okay. Obviously,

46:28

Lovett is found

46:29

on this very forecast not to pay. That's right. Because he

46:31

doesn't wanna be doused in a creamy New England clam

46:33

chowder or a delicious at

46:34

du Faye by a morally upright

46:36

stranger. as if he

46:38

was a van gogh. But I do think I could talk

46:40

one of you

46:41

into. Shelly got your heart in cash if you were actually getting

46:43

something of value. So I was gonna give you a couple scenarios.

46:45

No. I I this was

46:47

crowdsourced from the everyone here at Crooked. So I

46:49

would say these fall into political --

46:52

Uh-huh. -- realistic features. And then

46:54

a category I would describe as

46:56

simply horny. So

46:57

I'm gonna try to pick from each and you guys can react. The first one, will

46:59

you tell me which way you think it

47:01

lands? So Twitter blue is

47:04

okay. This

47:04

seven ninety nine months. But if you get

47:07

it, you do get MAGA GLACIA's tweets

47:09

a whole hour

47:10

earlier. Oh. Yeah.

47:12

A MAGA GLACIA's tweet window. No.

47:15

I don't I don't think that's worth. I mean yeah.

47:17

I mean, I it works a month. I read a sub stack all

47:19

the time, so why do I need

47:22

the tools? I'm

47:25

bleeding. Oh, wow. Oh, we got a we got a

47:27

slow boring head over here.

47:31

Okay. Great. I think you guys made

47:33

great choices. Oh, so here's another one. You'll tell me if this is

47:35

enough. Twitter Blue. Oh, yes. It is seven ninety nine a

47:38

month, but You get a feature

47:40

that turns off all discourse

47:42

so you can

47:42

just enjoy the jokes. Oh, absolutely.

47:44

That's great. I pay a

47:46

hundred dollars. Oh, Oh. If there was a switch, if there was,

47:49

like, an a a politics on politics

47:51

off? Yeah. Like sports on sports off jokes,

47:53

I would pay for that in harpy. But who are it's

47:55

gonna be the a a good joke,

47:57

so And it's I don't want any of these I don't want any of these lane

47:59

political reforms. think that they just came up with a

48:01

good joke or the people who were like, oh, I'm gonna

48:03

be the first one to make this joke even though it was

48:05

made, you know, by ten thousand other people, even when that's me.

48:07

Yeah. I was gonna say it's hard because I feel like some of the

48:09

people oh, they are political, but then occasionally, they'll

48:11

have a baker. like,

48:13

once in six months

48:14

The thing about it is that, you know, you either

48:16

die funny or you live long enough to

48:20

become

48:20

this. Right

48:21

now, or other for people in

48:23

the back. Or the do you carry a sink

48:25

to your new job -- Yeah. -- to do carat

48:27

off the bottom of the sink and sink and depraves.

48:29

One thing that I like putting this right

48:31

here. That, you know,

48:32

Twitter and it's best and worse. It's

48:34

everybody having the one conversation. Elon

48:37

buying Twitter has made

48:39

Twitter as bad a place to be as it's

48:41

ever been. There is way too little outside

48:43

of that. And it just like, it

48:46

used to be for so many years, like, there

48:48

was just a kind of steady

48:50

of weird Twitter being

48:52

funny and strange and

48:54

interesting and like these little kind of paths you

48:56

could go down and find

48:58

these strange little pockets of really interesting funny

49:00

people. And I think all those people lost

49:02

their minds and no

49:04

new people came to replace

49:06

them. So best minds of our generation has

49:08

been lost on Twitter. Yeah. They're they're they're mostly past generations.

49:10

Yeah. There's there's a certain kind of

49:12

listen. There's a certain kind of

49:15

people that you would have thought as

49:17

as like brilliant minds that

49:19

were absolutely rotted out

49:22

by the Internet

49:24

just completely stride by it. So I really wish if Twitter is gonna survive, it's not

49:26

gonna be because Elon is tweeting weird

49:28

political things or kind of trolling fucking

49:30

Kathy Griffin

49:32

whole conversation about Twitter used to be a conversation about Donald Trump for

49:34

a while, which is, like, was not great, but it

49:36

was at least somewhat understandable because he was president of

49:38

the United States and held a lot of power.

49:41

the whole thing is a fucking conversation about Elon Musk. It

49:43

sucks. It's not very boring. Keep well,

49:44

that in mind. I have one of the

49:46

horny ones. Oh, good. Good. Good. Good. So just

49:48

Twitter Blue,

49:49

you pay for seven ninety nine

49:51

a month. But if you do, you get experience the the

49:53

chaotic energy around

49:56

that one Beto Tweed,

49:57

that one time. And you get to

49:59

whatever you want, you get to, like, have it sort of a

50:02

black mirror type of situation where, like, at any point in

50:04

time, you get to feel the chaos we all

50:06

felt back in two thousand eighteen, which I do

50:08

think was a demarcating line in terms of

50:10

political horniness on

50:10

Twitter. We never recovered from Twitter. Wait. Is this the oh,

50:12

oh, wait. Do you wanna I I will read the headlines. Some

50:14

people might not have heard this No. I mean, I could I could reset it for

50:16

memory, but you And if you want You have kids in

50:19

the car? I know we swear too much. This is your

50:21

warning to really turn down. And if you're alone in

50:23

the car, pull the wheel into oncoming

50:25

trash. epic. That sounds like you're gonna pull over and enjoy your I

50:27

thought that's yeah. I thought he was gonna go there

50:30

too. Yes. Sorry. III

50:32

only put the worst part of it in my notes here. Here we

50:34

go. Thank you. know your meme dot com. Here we go.

50:36

This is a tweet. I'm not gonna name the person because

50:38

we've all been here. We've all thought

50:42

this about something, and we all got we all got don't

50:44

put it on Twitter to stick it yourself. Right?

50:46

Like, think a weird thought. Instead, this

50:49

woman said, no.

50:50

The day is my day.

50:53

And she's talking about,

50:55

000

50:55

Heda. believe is is that

50:57

he pronounced candidate hey, Dana and Avanati, as candidates are,

51:00

like, the guy who thinks good sex is pumping away while

51:02

you're making a grocery list in your

51:04

head, wondering when he'll be

51:06

done. A worker's like the guy who's all sweet and

51:08

dirty, but holds you down and makes you calm

51:10

until your calves cramp.

51:11

Oh, god. I remember

51:13

that. I was like, we have passed the

51:15

Rubicon. This is like an and I think that's where

51:17

III mean, you know, maybe it's my algorithm, but I

51:20

feel like this weekend was just like, oh,

51:22

it is no holds bar.

51:24

Everyone would say whatever they want, both

51:26

politically and personally. So we're paying seven ninety

51:28

nine a month for that. To feel that

51:30

feeling that I want more your calves

51:32

to cramp. Oh, no. Okay. Yeah. You have

51:34

to pay more for that. Oh, yeah. That's what's

51:36

going on. I'm saying that every month

51:38

you

51:38

pay and that

51:40

tweet or whatever it could be a tweet of similar insanity. Is

51:42

white from your head, black mirror style, and

51:44

once a month you get to experience it

51:47

all over again. And it's new

51:49

to you. Yeah. I'll do it.

51:49

Sure. Yeah. Sure. That's a good lab. Ninety

51:52

five bucks a year for a good lab. That's more valuable

51:54

than a check mark

51:56

for sure.

51:57

we have to

51:59

have a couple more here. actually figure

51:59

out which ones are are are most

52:02

applicable. But every time oh, wait. The Tory

52:04

Blue is 799A

52:06

month. But every time you retweet a politician, you were or emailed

52:08

one less time from their campaign --

52:10

Mhmm. --

52:11

where they're begging and screaming

52:14

at you to give them three dollars. Uh-huh. I I don't want

52:16

one less time. I would pay for it if I could

52:18

just shut that off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a time

52:20

to pay. RT for

52:22

unsubscribed. Yeah. Done. So Yeah. I grew with

52:24

that. For sure. Just I

52:26

have

52:26

two left here. I'm gonna go Twitter

52:30

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52:32

twenty twenty is automatically muted. You

52:34

never have to see

52:35

the auto again. And And

52:37

I'll also say Can we do twenty twenty one? Can we get it

52:39

to the store? Yeah. Let's I'm adding it to

52:41

the the algorithms. Twenty twenty one. There were some bad

52:43

ones in there. Yeah. because

52:44

I feel like that's get you know, when we came up in the Internet, that was

52:46

just so it was so much of that, and I still occasionally see it.

52:48

It's like, we're not doing that.

52:49

It's just all of the dogs.

52:52

duplados. or doggos?

52:54

Yeah. I'm out. I also

52:55

don't wanna ever see the word doggy. III

52:58

understand people love Harry Potter if I see that little

53:00

gross

53:00

man's name. or whoever it is, a

53:02

goblin or something. What are the other

53:04

ones? Yeah. Word

53:05

that you're like never make me

53:07

see this again. Just the

53:08

phrases are so bad. This you. This

53:12

you.

53:12

Ladder for the people on

53:13

the back, all the cliches.

53:16

Yeah. I don't know who needs to hear this, but

53:18

I don't know who needs to hear this is the one. Sure you

53:20

do. You just tweeted it. Yeah. You know his

53:22

acronyms here. It's actually

53:24

nobody seeing this. Yeah. That's the problem. Yeah. I'd

53:26

love

53:26

to eradicate all of that language. Yep. I'm in.

53:28

Great. Okay. Normalized x.

53:30

Yeah. A lot of normalizing.

53:32

Yeah.

53:32

And finally, you do get the URL for Elon's secret alt account,

53:35

and he does post frequent nudes.

53:37

The

53:37

seven ninety

53:40

eight.

53:40

However, It's actually very humanizing

53:42

and makes you like him more, which

53:44

you feel more complicated about. No.

53:46

No. I'm paying eight dollars a month for Elon

53:48

Newds. Yeah. And I have to like him more

53:49

at the end. You don't have to. It's just a

53:51

sort of the natural process. You see him, I see a part of himself.

53:52

You didn't expect to ever see here. Like, I guess, you

53:54

are a person and you have whatever

53:56

weird thing you have, but don't we

53:59

all? But don't we all?

53:59

Don't we all? That's still what I would pay

54:02

for. I'd like to pay seven

54:04

ninety nine a month to not be reminded that every

54:06

person on the other end of a Twitter account is

54:08

a person. I'd

54:09

like to continue to see what the experience we have now. Right. That's

54:11

about you. We get territories that for free. Sometimes it's not, I

54:13

guess, sort of bots. Yeah.

54:16

Do

54:16

it carrying you on the border now. Okay. You got this whole

54:18

transaction. I do it, bring you back around to it.

54:20

Do we have do we have one more?

54:23

Yeah. Definitely. Let's do one more. Let's do one

54:25

more. Let's do one more. One

54:27

more. The cracks and scenes come back. Oh, yeah.

54:30

Get them back. I'm paying for that. I'm

54:32

paying to get the Christine's back. You're paying and

54:34

that that money's going right in their pocket. Think of the

54:36

joy that that will bring to so many people. You know,

54:38

they've been a little bit. How many how many techs will

54:40

send about the Crafts and tweets. They've a little served by

54:42

the occupied Democrats people that

54:45

are like, you know, Don

54:48

Junior is a piece of shit with a bad

54:50

haircut, and he just insulted

54:52

Josh Shapiro. REIT tweeted, you think

54:54

Don Junior is a piece

54:56

of shit. that's better than what they do. That's

54:58

good. And then just in

54:59

general, I just, like, is the I

55:02

just wanna ask is sort of,

55:04

like, is Twitter is

55:06

important? Like, is what is happening to it

55:08

important? Because I feel like it's I guess people were

55:10

on it, it's like, oh, no. But if you're not on it,

55:12

it's sort of like like you said, like, going

55:14

it, like, in person to to canvas and,

55:16

like, do things or is

55:17

much more important. And they would sort of have

55:19

this myopic platform that's being destabilized. Like, what

55:21

is sort of the do

55:24

we look at it sort of, like from sixty thousand feet? Do you guys have any feelings

55:26

about that? I would say that it

55:28

has outsized

55:29

influence because every journalist in the world is on it

55:31

and so much of the media coverage

55:34

that people base their

55:36

information off of and and make decisions off of is

55:38

is shaped by Twitter. So, unfortunately, it

55:40

has an outsized impact even though

55:42

it is does not have as many people as many other most other social

55:44

media platforms. So and I

55:46

think it's useful to have some kind of a

55:48

national conversation

55:50

and going. Mhmm. Unfortunately, it has become shitty over the last several

55:52

years and Elon is driving it into the ground

55:54

as fast as he can. Yeah. I I would say

55:56

I would say Twitter twitter

55:59

is important

55:59

is important in so far as a group of people who help shape the

56:02

national conversation, view it as a place

56:04

where people come to shape the national

56:06

conversation. But there will be a

56:08

hinge point and it could be we don't

56:10

know when it will be. It could be soon based on

56:12

how quickly Elon is sort of eviscerating

56:14

the place that all of a

56:16

sudden, if it's just journalists who don't

56:18

feel like they're getting a

56:20

sense of what the the lefty

56:22

pundits are saying and what the what

56:24

the the right pundits are saying, it doesn't

56:26

feel like that kind of like like,

56:28

bleeding edge of a national political

56:30

conversation where people come to kind of hear

56:32

from, like, you know, the one thousand people who shape

56:34

the political debate. If that doesn't

56:36

feel like what it is, I think all of a sudden, it'll

56:38

it'll stop being useful, and then it won't be important to

56:40

be there, and then everyone will have to go somewhere else. because we

56:42

do that space. that space is

56:44

valuable. It just doesn't have to be Twitter.

56:46

Yeah. It was never as important as

56:48

some people thought it was, especially the

56:50

Twitter founders who thought they were responsible for the Arab

56:52

spring and stuff. Like, I

56:54

I

56:54

was rolled so far back into my head that I

56:56

nearly died. I think its importance was waning long

56:59

before Elon Musk came around

57:01

because there's other platforms where you

57:03

can reach way more people instead of talking to a

57:05

chat room full of losers. But again,

57:07

if you brought back Brian Crazancy

57:09

and you could get

57:12

content like While many of you are likely yelling Go Patriots or Go Rams, I'm

57:14

yelling Go Robert Mueller in the rule of

57:16

law. That's a good idea. That is gold.

57:18

And I've paid experience

57:20

that way. I guess I'll see you all on TikTok. See you on TikTok.

57:22

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