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me today is Andrew Limbong. He's the host
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of NPR's Book of the Day podcast and
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a reporter for The Culture Desk. Hey, Andrew,
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welcome back. Yo, hey, Linda, what's up? We
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are going to talk about some books, if
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that's okay with you, buddy. All right. You
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may well know what books we love is,
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but in case you don't, each year
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NPR gathers recommendations from contributors and critics and
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staff in all kinds of genres, fiction
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and nonfiction, books for kids, cookbooks,
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memoirs. There's a little bit of
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just about everything. And this
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year there are more picks than ever
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from NPR staff. That includes me and
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it includes Andrew. So we're both
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going to share a couple of our picks. Andrew,
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what's your first one? Yeah. So
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one of the books I picked is a
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biography. It's by Abraham Josephine Reisman
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and it's called Ringmaster. It's
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by Vince McMahon and the Unmaking of America. I
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don't know, Linda, were you like a wrestling head? Are you a wrestling head?
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Not at all. It's one of the
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things that I just never locked into, but I'm
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always fascinated by it. Yeah, same. I was never
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a wrestling kid either. I was mostly just like
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scared to get bullied by the other wrestling
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kids, but I did have
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this like fascination with the WWE. And
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I think this book, it's not only
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a biography of Vince McMahon, you know,
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headed the WWE and like a kind
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of tracing the life of popular wrestling,
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but it's also a really interesting look
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at how American culture
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translates, translates irony. Oh, wow.
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Yeah. Like idioms of wrestling, you know,
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like heels, cave-ates, all this pretending. Right, right, right. You know,
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you think a lot about like the people
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who have proliferated online and you just have to
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ask yourself, it's like, wait, are they doing a
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bit? Is this like a thing or is this
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real or is this not real? I keep thinking,
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you know, from reading the book, I was like,
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it doesn't matter. The question is the thing that
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they're doing. Right. You know, you could
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obviously extrapolate that out to politics or, you know,
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other forms of culture, but it's a really interesting
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look at how. how, what
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attracts our attention economy these days? Yeah,
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it's always been difficult for me to figure out, like, it
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is not a sport in the traditional sense of
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having a competition that ends unpredictably,
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you know what I mean? It is a
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performance, but it's also a sport in the
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sense that it takes a great deal of
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skill and, you know, physical skills of all
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kinds. I think I've just
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never been sure of how to process
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it. So maybe this
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is the right, maybe this is the right book. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah. It's a very American story. It's
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a very like Gatsby type of
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story where, you know, like it follows him sort of
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like making this thing through
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whatever kind of
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like infotainment BS, spectacle,
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you know, circus that he does. It's
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a really like fascinating look at like
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American business tycoonery. Right, right.
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So that is Ringmaster, Vince
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McMahon and the Unmaking of
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America by Abraham Josephine Reisman.
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And my next pick is
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also kind of a little bit about
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heels, you could say. It is called
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Starter Villain and it is by John
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Scolzey. So Scolzey is a
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sort of a speculative fiction writer of
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all different kinds. Writes some kind of
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more grand fantasy, writes some
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like interesting, crunchy, science fictiony
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things. He wrote this book,
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which one of the first things that I said
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when I talked about this in books we love, on
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the cover of this book, there is a cat who
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is wearing a business suit. And it's like a very
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traditional, what you would see as like a picture of
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an executive in a business suit,
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except it's a cat. Now, is there a reason for
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this? Yes, there is a good reason for this.
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