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The

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nominations for this year's Primetime

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Emmy Awards were just announced and we're gonna help you

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unpack them. The Emmys being the Emmys, there

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were many familiar series in the mix

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like Succession and Ted Lasso, but

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there were also exciting first-time nominees

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like Andor and Jury Duty, plus

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plenty of satisfying surprises and galling

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snubs. I'm Linda Holmes.

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And I'm Glenn Weldon, and today we're recapping

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this year's Emmy nominations on Pop Culture

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Happy Hour from NPR. Right

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at the top, Linda, talk to me about how weird this

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Emmy season

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is. Yeah, it's a very odd season. The

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Writers Guild has been on strike since May.

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There is absolutely no sign of progress

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on that front. The Screen Actors

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Guild has a contract that as we tape

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this on Wednesday, right after the nominations

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expires tonight, it is not

1:01

clear whether they will extend again or go on

1:04

strike or what will happen. If these

1:06

two strikes are both underway, there's

1:08

not gonna be much in the way of an Emmy campaign season.

1:11

And so it's gonna be very odd in that

1:13

way. I think it's odd also

1:15

because it's just made

1:18

the whole thing feel a little grim.

1:20

It's harder, I think, for people to be as

1:22

fully celebratory as they would be otherwise.

1:24

Yeah, and also we tape this the day after

1:27

deadline and came out with

1:29

a story that quoted an unnamed studio executive

1:31

basically saying that the strategy is to hold out until

1:33

writers start going broke and losing their apartments,

1:36

not understanding that the reason they're striking is

1:38

because writers are going broke and losing their apartments.

1:40

Yeah,

1:40

a little cartoon

1:42

villain. Yeah. In some of that language,

1:44

but yeah. So just keep in mind as we talk, the same executives

1:47

who are probably gonna be crying about how great The Bear

1:49

did with Emmy nominations this year

1:51

are also responsible for the fact that one of its

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writers, Alex O'Keefe, tweeted recently

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that he is barely scraping by between jobs despite

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having such a great gig.

1:59

Okay, thank you for that. Before

2:01

we get to the nominations, I wanted to mention two things

2:04

up top. One, we can't get to every

2:06

category today. These are just some highlights. And two,

2:08

there are a lot of nominations for Amazon. So

2:11

we want to note that Amazon supports NPR and

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pays to distribute some of our content. All

2:16

right, let's get to it starting with comedy. The

2:18

nominees for Outstanding Comedy Series are

2:20

Abbott Elementary, ABC's workplace

2:23

sitcom set in a Philadelphia public school created

2:25

by Quinta Brunson. You'll hear that name again. Barry,

2:28

HBO's violent dark comedy in

2:29

satire about Hollywood where Bill Hader plays

2:32

a hitman turned actor. A hilarious romp.

2:34

Hilarious romp. Barry.

2:37

Speaking of hilarious musical roms,

2:39

The Bear was also nominated. That's FX on Hulu's

2:41

intense and fast paced series about a fine dining

2:44

chef who takes over his family's Chicago Italian

2:46

beef sandwich shop. Yes, chef. Yes, chef.

2:49

Jury duty, Amazon freebies documentary

2:51

style comedy about a jury where one

2:53

juror does not realize everyone else is an actor and

2:55

even the trial is fake. What has been

2:57

mentioned many times on the Emmys is the marvelous Mrs.

3:00

Maisel. This is the final season of

3:02

Amazon's long running series about an aspiring stand

3:04

up comedian played by Rachel Brosnahan, who's

3:07

trying to get her big break. Hulu's

3:09

only murders in the building on which Martin

3:12

Short, Steve Martin and Selena Gomez play

3:14

true crime fans who investigate a real murder and

3:16

make a podcast about it. Podcast. Podcast.

3:20

Also returning, of course, is Ted Lasso. The

3:22

Apple series starring Jason Sudeikis as an unqualified

3:25

American who takes over as the coach of an English

3:28

soccer team and finally a new

3:30

name breaking through Wednesday. The

3:32

Netflix series about Adams family favorite Wednesday

3:34

Adams played by Jenna Ortega and her adventures

3:37

at the Gloomy Nevermore Academy.

3:39

Linda, what are your thoughts here?

3:40

Well, I think there are a couple of

3:43

really critical favorites that did not

3:45

make this list. Reservation Dogs is

3:47

certainly one. The other two is one. Somebody

3:50

Somewhere is one. I was a huge fan

3:53

of poker face on Peacock,

3:55

which did not get a nomination in this category.

3:58

The thing is these nominations feel to

3:59

me, like once

4:02

people become slightly less enthused about

4:04

something, it usually takes a couple of years

4:06

for their Emmy nominations to

4:08

start to drop off. So I think even though

4:11

there was somewhat less enthusiasm about this season

4:13

of Ted Lasso, for example, it's just not going to drop

4:15

off that fast. So, you know,

4:17

Ted Lasso is still here, Maisel is still here

4:20

and also it's a stacked category. I mean, there are also a

4:22

lot of good entries. So I think there are some very

4:24

disappointing omissions here,

4:27

you know, but also some great ones.

4:29

I'm happy to see jury duty here. That's an extraordinarily

4:31

silly

4:31

show that I enjoyed a lot. Yeah, that was a surprise.

4:34

And you called it in your piece for NPR.

4:36

You called it. Listen, I got my finger on the pulse, buddy.

4:38

You totally do. I'm happy with the repeat

4:40

nominations, Lasso Abbott, Murders, Barry,

4:43

Maisel. I thought both Maisel and Barry ended

4:45

with very strong final seasons.

4:48

Maybe Lasso did too. We're still not sure if it's

4:50

the final season, but whatever. And it's great to see

4:52

the bear here, of course, even though calling

4:54

out a comedy was a stretch, as we've mentioned,

4:56

and it's certainly gotten its fair share of critical attention.

4:59

But if a nomination or a win means

5:02

that more people see it than great, I personally

5:05

didn't love Wednesday as much as most people

5:07

did because it had this romantic

5:09

triangle stuff, which just felt like a fundamental misread

5:12

of the character. But you know what? That's

5:14

not going to be a thing for the next season. So I'm fine. I

5:16

am really heartsick for somebody somewhere because

5:19

that is a show that really could have used

5:21

this kind of love and get more people to see

5:24

it. All right. You want to walk me through lead actress

5:26

in a comedy series?

5:27

Absolutely. So we have Christina Applegate

5:29

for Netflix is Dead to Me. She plays

5:31

a woman whose husband was killed in a hit and run

5:34

accident and then is befriended

5:36

by the driver played by Linda Cardellini.

5:38

Rachel Brosnahan for The Marvelous

5:41

Mrs. Maisel. She plays housewife

5:43

turned aspiring standup comedian Midge

5:46

Maisel. She's previously won an Emmy for

5:48

this part in 2018. Quinta

5:51

Brunson for Abbott Elementary. She

5:53

plays Jeanine, who's a second grade

5:55

teacher at the underfunded

5:57

Philadelphia Public School of

5:59

the title.

5:59

Natasha Lyonne

6:02

now, geesh, boy do

6:04

I like Natasha Lyonne. She plays Charlie

6:06

in the PCHH favorite

6:09

poker face. The Peacock series is about a woman

6:11

with an uncanny ability to

6:13

know when somebody is lying, but

6:16

she then goes on the run, she solves murders

6:18

and crimes and there are a million great guest stars.

6:21

And then finally, Jenna Ortega, who plays

6:23

the titular Wednesday

6:26

Adams in Wednesday. What

6:29

do you think, Glenn?

6:29

I love seeing Jenna Ortega here. She's the best part

6:32

of that show and without

6:34

hacks in the mix, right? Because of the scheduling.

6:36

Right, it was off this year. Right, without Jean Smart in the mix.

6:38

I think this is Quinta's to lose, right?

6:40

I mean, I think so. I can imagine

6:43

Rachel Brosnahan going out with a bang,

6:45

given how heavily decorated that show's been. Lyonne

6:48

would also be wonderful for me. I think

6:50

she's also somebody who's been around for a really long

6:53

time. And I can imagine kind of her belovedness

6:56

and connectedness and the fact that that's

6:58

a Ryan Johnson show. I mean, I

7:00

can see it for her. I always do

7:02

this to myself. My faves do not

7:04

wind up winning, but yeah. I mean, look, if you're

7:06

right and it's Quinta Brunson's to lose, that's great

7:09

too.

7:09

Absolutely, all right. So lead actor in a comedy

7:11

series, we get Bill Hader for Barry.

7:13

He plays a sociopathic hitman who tries to forget

7:15

his past and become an actor. Hilarious. Exactly.

7:19

Your sides will ache.

7:20

Sorry, I can't stop. Hader has won twice

7:22

before for this role. Jason Siegel

7:25

for the Apple TV series Shrinking, he plays a

7:27

widow therapist to adopt some unexpected methods

7:29

for his therapy patients. Martin

7:32

Short, but not Steve Martin for only

7:34

murders in the building. He plays a failed Broadway

7:36

director who starts a true crime podcast

7:38

with Steve Martin and Selena Gomez to investigate a murder.

7:41

Jason Sudeikis heard of him for Ted Lasso

7:44

heard of it. He plays, well, Ted, the

7:46

American football coach now coaching a UK

7:48

soccer club and trying to inspire them to win.

7:51

Sudeikis

7:51

previously won Emmys for this same role in 2021 and 2022.

7:55

Is he going to go for the hat trick as a cocky

7:58

turn, right? No, yeah, a hockey turn.

7:59

the three thing in soccer, Jeremy

8:03

Alan White for the Bear. He plays fine

8:05

dining chef Carmi who returns home to Chicago

8:08

to help turn around the family sandwich shop

8:10

after the death of his brother. Linda, I bet you

8:12

have a favorite here.

8:13

You know, I am always going to be in the tank

8:15

for Jeremy Alan White because that show

8:17

is the most fascinating and intense

8:20

thing I watched all year. At the same time, I don't think

8:22

it's a comedic performance. So I

8:24

think I would probably root sentimentally

8:26

for Jason Siegel who I discovered

8:29

this is Jason Siegel's first Emmy

8:31

nomination ever. And if you think about how

8:34

long he was on Freaks and Geeks and

8:36

how I met your mother and like, it's

8:38

amazing to me that this is his first Emmy nomination.

8:41

And I think he's great on shrinking. I really love

8:43

shrinking. I'm a little shocked that Harrison

8:45

Ford did not get a supporting

8:47

nomination for shrinking. I'm thrilled that Jessica

8:50

Williams did, but Jason

8:52

Siegel, man, I think he's a super interesting

8:54

dude and I will be rooting for him, I think. Yeah.

8:57

That's what I think of Jeremy Alan White as a comedy.

8:59

Yeah, there is that. Yeah,

9:01

the Harrison Ford thing is really surprising because Emmys historically

9:03

love when movie actors cross over and yet

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right, picking up with drama. Linda,

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can you dramatically tell me the outstanding drama series?

10:07

I will do it as dramatically as possible. The nominees

10:09

are Andor, the Star Wars Disney

10:12

Plus thriller that follows Diego

10:14

Luna on his journey from scoundrel

10:16

to rebel hero. Better Call

10:19

Saul, The Breaking Bad prequel, which also

10:21

aired on AMC. It stars

10:23

Bob Odenkirk as ethically dubious

10:26

public defender Jimmy McGill as

10:28

he slowly devolves into a sleazy

10:30

lawyer to criminals and renames

10:32

himself Saul Goodman. The

10:34

Crown

10:35

frequent nominee, frequent nominee inspired

10:38

by real events. This Netflix dramatization

10:40

tells the story of Queen Elizabeth II and the

10:43

political and personal events that shaped her reign.

10:46

Drama.

10:47

I asked for it. You're doing it. House

10:49

of the Dragon is HBO's prequel to Game of

10:51

Thrones, but instead of a world spanning tale

10:53

of rival clans jockeying for

10:55

power. House of the Dragon keeps

10:58

it in the family. The Targaryen

11:00

family, that is. Pretty

11:03

good for somebody who doesn't want to give a throw.

11:04

I was gonna say. The Last of

11:06

Us offers a fungus based twist

11:08

on the zombie apocalypse. The HBO series

11:11

follows a young girl played by Bella Ramsey,

11:13

who's mysteriously immune to the fungal

11:15

infection into Gruff, taciturn

11:18

protector, played by Pedro

11:20

Pascal. And of course, HBO's

11:23

succession, huge nomination

11:26

list this year, follows the Roy

11:28

family, a billionaire dynasty that owns a

11:30

conservative leaning media conglomerate

11:33

they wrapped up this year. Whew,

11:35

made me crazy. A resort should be

11:37

relaxing, but the HBO series, The White Lotus,

11:39

which takes place at a resort of the same

11:42

name, is instead uncomfortable,

11:44

even painful, always meme

11:47

spewing. And the Showtime

11:50

thriller Yellow Jackets follows what happens

11:52

when a high school girl's soccer team's

11:54

plane crashes in the Canadian

11:57

wilderness and the aftermath.

11:59

And let me just

11:59

say Aftermath is doing a lot of heavy

12:02

lifting in that sentence.

12:04

Glenn, what do you think?

12:05

I mean, these are salad picks. This

12:07

was a strange year because the only three

12:09

holdovers from last year are Succession, Yellow Jackets

12:11

and Better Call Saul, although the White Lotus

12:14

and the Crown have been nominated before. Right,

12:16

right. The newcomers here are Andor, which

12:18

I am just delighted about because it takes

12:20

the cartoonishly capital evil

12:23

of the Star Wars universe and really

12:25

unpacks it and how it functions. It's

12:27

a lot of fun. House of the Dragon

12:29

surprised some people and The Last of Us surprised, I think,

12:31

no one. Justice for Bad Sisters

12:34

though, which is the mystery series starring

12:35

Sharon Horgan as one of five sisters involved

12:37

in the murder of one truly bad dude. Horgan

12:40

got nominated for acting and for writing that

12:42

show, so I'm okay with that. Amazon

12:45

cannot feel great about the Lord of the Rings,

12:47

the rings of power being shut out of the major

12:49

awards given how much money they've sunk

12:51

into it. And again,

12:54

it's great that House of the Dragon got a drama nomination,

12:56

but no acting nominations at all.

12:59

And one of the things that kept Game of Thrones

13:01

going was the raft of Emmys it could

13:03

be depended to get every year.

13:06

And I should note here that it's good that both Murray

13:08

Bartlett and Nick Overman got nominated for guest

13:11

actor for their episode of The Last of Us,

13:13

which feels right and good and somehow true.

13:15

Yeah, even though I got to say they are

13:17

up against James Cromwell from Succession in that

13:19

category who blew me away

13:21

this year as well. I don't know, man. It's a very tough

13:23

category.

13:24

Next up, outstanding lead actress

13:26

in a drama series, Sharon Horgan, as I mentioned,

13:29

for Apple TV series Bad Sisters. She decides

13:31

to team up with her sisters to murder her brother-in-law.

13:34

Melanie Lynskey for playing Shauna Sadecki

13:36

in the Showtime series Yellow Jackets, one of the women

13:38

who survived the plane crash. Elizabeth

13:40

Moss for playing Offred in the Hulu series The Handmaid's

13:43

Tale. Bella Ramsey

13:45

for playing Ellie in the HBO series The Last

13:47

of Us. She's a kid who's immune to the mysterious plague.

13:50

Carrie Russell, you predicted this for the Netflix drama

13:52

The Diplomat. She plays a diplomat to the UK

13:55

who is under consideration for the vice presidency. And

13:57

finally, Sarah Snook for playing Shiv Roy.

13:59

in the HBO series Succession. She

14:02

jumps from supporting actress. This year, they finally submitted

14:04

her as lead actress, which makes sense. What do you think?

14:06

Yeah. I mean, my assumption

14:08

is sort of that just based

14:10

on

14:11

the position of succession and the position of

14:13

this role that this is Sarah Snook's to

14:15

lose. I could be wrong about

14:17

that. Certainly. I'm not surprised,

14:20

as you mentioned, that this is the representation of

14:22

the diplomat that we got. Keri Russell was

14:24

nominated several times for the Americans. She never

14:26

won. The B.M.B.'s love Keri Russell.

14:29

I think she's great in the diplomat. That was a show

14:31

I really liked and I'm pleased to

14:33

see some recognition for it. Talk

14:36

to me a little bit about Rachel Weiss because I didn't

14:38

watch Dead Ringers, but a lot of people really loved

14:40

Dead Ringers.

14:40

Yeah. I didn't love the show. I loved these

14:42

performances because she played a pair of

14:45

twins. It was a very showy,

14:48

chewy role, but when she needed

14:50

to kind of modulate it and just

14:52

convey who you were looking at with just a

14:55

glimmer in the eye or something, she could do it. I'm

14:57

surprised she didn't because it is the kind of

14:59

very showy role that the Emmys love.

15:01

Yeah, I agree. I agree. All right. Walk me through

15:04

an outstanding lead actor in a drama series.

15:06

All right. We have Jeff Bridges

15:08

for playing a former CIA

15:10

operative in the FX series The

15:13

Old Man. That

15:13

was a show. That was on. Pedro

15:16

Pascal for playing Joel in the HBO

15:18

series The Last of Us. We've talked about that one. Bob

15:21

Odenkirk for playing lawyer

15:23

Saul Goodman one last season

15:26

in the AMC series Better Call Saul.

15:29

And then from HBO's Succession, we've got three.

15:32

Brian Cox for playing patriarch Logan

15:35

Roy, Kieran Culkin for playing

15:37

Roman Roy, and Jeremy

15:40

Strong for playing Kendall Roy. It's

15:42

so funny to me because the fact that Culkin

15:45

moved into lead along with

15:47

Sarah Snook means that Succession now

15:49

has four lead actors nominated. And

15:52

at some point you start to wonder if everyone

15:54

is a lead, is anyone. And

15:57

if you know sort of the progression of this season,

15:59

it's actually

15:59

Brian Cox where you think like maybe

16:02

not. But I think that was not going to

16:04

happen. So look, I love all these performances,

16:07

but that's a lot of lead actors.

16:08

This is when you start to worry that these

16:11

great performances are going to start to kind of

16:13

cannibalize each other in terms of the voting.

16:15

Yeah. And maybe leave some room

16:17

for Bob Odenkirk to finally get

16:20

the Emmy. He has been denied for playing

16:22

lawyer Saul Goodman on Better Call Saul. He's been

16:25

nominated six times for that role

16:27

and hasn't won. And, you know, well, five times before

16:29

this, this is his sixth. So hopefully, I mean,

16:32

I like all these performances, but I, you know, sentimentally

16:34

I'm rooting for Bob. Yeah, I get that. All

16:37

right, moving on to Outstanding Limited or

16:38

Anthology Series. First up, the Netflix

16:41

series Beef in which a road rage incident

16:43

between Ali Wong and Steven Yeun spirals

16:45

out of control. Then the weirdly

16:47

titled Dahmer hyphen monster

16:50

colon, the Jeffrey Dahmer story, which

16:52

is part of a Ryan Murphy Netflix

16:54

true crime anthology series. It's about,

16:57

you know, serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer.

16:59

There's Daisy Jones and the six, the Amazon prime

17:01

miniseries chronicling a fictional 1970s

17:04

rock band. Fleishman is in

17:06

trouble. The FX on Hulu miniseries starring

17:08

Jesse Eisenberg is a man dating for the first time

17:10

after his divorce. And one of

17:13

the biggest surprises, I think Obi-Wan

17:15

Kenobi, the Disney plus miniseries

17:17

starring Ewan McGregor as the iconic Star

17:20

Wars character.

17:21

Talk to me.

17:22

Yeah. Well, first, I mean, I think the first interesting thing

17:24

is beef had a really strong showing

17:26

in these Emmys. And I think there was a little

17:28

bit of a question in the air about whether they

17:30

would be negatively affected by a controversy

17:33

that came up shortly after that show premiered

17:36

about some extremely distasteful

17:38

rape jokes that had been made by David Cho,

17:40

who's one of their supporting cast

17:43

members. But it appears that from

17:45

a PR perspective, they have weathered

17:47

that given the strong showing of

17:49

the series in this set of nominations.

17:51

I

17:52

think from a perspective

17:54

of critical praise, it's certainly not a surprise

17:56

to see them nominated. I think like you said, the

17:59

surprise here is

17:59

Obi-Wan Kenobi. Did you watch that?

18:01

I did. And, you

18:03

know, while Andor was among

18:06

a very small number of people, was just being talked

18:10

up and critically acclaimed, Obi-Wan Kenobi

18:12

did not have that same kind of impact,

18:14

did not have that same kind of, I

18:17

think, groundswell behind it. So I was really

18:19

surprised to see it popped up here. It was fine, but

18:21

it was no Andor.

18:22

Yeah. It's so interesting to me. And you

18:24

can say this about drama series too. You know,

18:28

really are seeing a

18:29

space for genre shows

18:32

in these kind of serious categories like

18:34

drama and limited series, which

18:36

I think is great. It's interesting that the genres

18:39

that have kind of made it in there are more

18:41

on the sci-fi and fantasy side,

18:43

as opposed to like maybe other kinds

18:46

of genre shows like procedurals or something

18:48

like that. It's clear that at least in some

18:50

cases, there is a place for genre in

18:52

all of this.

18:53

All right. Let's go to outstanding lead actress

18:55

in a limited or anthology series or movie.

18:58

Linda, go ahead.

18:59

Yeah. This is a stacked category. Also you have

19:01

Lizzie Kaplan for Fleishman is in Trouble.

19:03

She plays Libby, who's the best friend of the

19:05

protagonist, Toby. Jessica

19:07

Chastain for playing country singer

19:10

Tammy Wynette in the Showtime miniseries,

19:12

George and Tammy. Dominique

19:14

Fishback for the Amazon Prime

19:16

miniseries, Swarm. She plays an awkward

19:19

woman who is obsessed with a pop superstar.

19:22

Katherine Hahn for the Hulu

19:24

miniseries, Tiny Beautiful Things. She plays

19:26

a woman who becomes a revered advice

19:29

columnist when her own life is falling apart.

19:31

Riley Keough for Daisy Jones and

19:33

the Six. She played the titular

19:36

singer Daisy Jones and Ali Wong

19:38

for Beef. She plays Amy, a well-to-do

19:41

entrepreneur who gets involved in a life-changing

19:44

road rage incident. Do you have opinions

19:47

here, Glenn?

19:47

Not opinions because I like all these performances,

19:49

but were I a betting man? I mean, Jessica

19:52

Chastain has won for playing a woman

19:55

named Tammy with a Southern accent previously.

19:57

Yeah. She played Tammy Faye Baker. So, I mean, it's

19:59

precedent.

19:59

Right? Yeah. Go with that. I

20:02

mean, there is definitely precedent for

20:04

that, as well as what you mentioned, which is the kind of

20:06

movie star crossover into the Emmys

20:08

thing. But yeah, the performances that

20:10

I have seen in this category, I also really

20:12

liked. I liked Ali Wong and Beef. I really

20:15

liked Fleishman Who's in Trouble, and I thought

20:17

Lizzie Kaplan was one of the best parts of it, as

20:19

she is the best part of so many things. As

20:22

I said, stacked category full of really good

20:24

actors, including Dominique Fishback, who I think is just a

20:26

super interesting young actor

20:29

who I'm always excited to see.

20:30

Yep. Finally, we have Outstanding

20:33

Lead Actor in Limited or Anthology Series

20:35

or Movie, and that is Taron Edgerton, for

20:37

playing James Keene in the Apple TV Plus crime

20:40

drama Blackbird. Kumail

20:43

Nanjiani for Hulu's Welcome to Chippendales.

20:45

He plays Soman Steve Banerjee, the

20:47

founder of the male review club Chippendales.

20:50

Evan Peters for playing serial killer Jeffrey Dahmer

20:53

in the Netflix series, Dahmer.

20:56

Daniel Radcliffe for paying Weird Al in

20:59

the Roku original film Weird, the

21:01

Al Yankovic story, both Roku and Freebie

21:03

showing up at these Emmys. Michael Shannon

21:06

for playing country singer George Jones in the Showtime

21:08

miniseries George and Tammy, and

21:10

Steven Young for playing Danny Cho in Beef.

21:12

He's a struggling contractor who gets involved in

21:15

a road rage incident that spirals out

21:17

of control. Any thoughts here? I bet you

21:19

got one.

21:19

Well, look, Kumail is a friend of the show.

21:22

He's been on the show. We appreciate him.

21:24

And so obviously the heart wants what it

21:26

wants. However, in this category, if

21:28

I had to guess, I would say Steven Young,

21:31

probably. Really? Well, just

21:33

because I think people love Steven Young so

21:35

much. I also do think that

21:37

there is a chance that Evan Peters

21:40

for kind of being maybe

21:42

the thing people like the most

21:44

about Dahmer hyphen Monster Cole in the Jeffrey

21:46

Dahmer story, which is,

21:48

I think a franchise over on Netflix that

21:51

people are a

21:52

little cringey about. And yet

21:54

I think Evan Peters has a good reputation.

21:56

So I can definitely imagine that happening. And I'm

21:58

so delighted to see Danny.

21:59

Radcliffe here, mostly because I

22:02

think a broad comedic performance is always

22:04

welcome in any category that

22:06

leaves itself open to it. So listen,

22:09

I think there are a lot of possibilities

22:12

and, you know, you can root for your pal and

22:14

also, you know, kind of understand

22:16

that there are a lot of good performances in this category.

22:18

Yeah, we'll be rooting for a pal.

22:20

There are certain realities in Hollywood and I think one of

22:22

them might be the Michael Shannon of it all, just because

22:25

he's a big old name and that's a very conventional biopic.

22:28

And so Emmys love what they love. It's true. It's true.

22:30

Well, we didn't get to everything. We couldn't possibly

22:33

get to everything, but those are, you know, kind

22:35

of skimming off the top here. We want to know what you

22:37

think about this year's Emmy nominations. All of

22:39

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22:41

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22:44

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