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The Rich Girl: Ep. 7, Pack Your Sh*t and Move

The Rich Girl: Ep. 7, Pack Your Sh*t and Move

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The Rich Girl: Ep. 7, Pack Your Sh*t and Move

The Rich Girl: Ep. 7, Pack Your Sh*t and Move

Thursday, 19th January 2023
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0:00

Previously on Queen of the Cone.

0:08

While in New York, Daniel Miller

0:10

pleads no contest over Zoom

0:13

to one third degree felony identity

0:15

theft charge for her Sara Sota Bank scamp.

0:19

She then boards a plane and flies

0:21

from New York to Florida, checks

0:23

into the local Ritz Carlton, and

0:26

shows up bright and early the next

0:28

morning to be sentenced by a Florida

0:30

judge

0:32

and the objection to the legal accuracy

0:35

Yes. Daniel's

0:41

attorney, however, throws a wrench

0:43

into what's supposed to be a pretty straightforward

0:45

sentencing hearing by objecting

0:48

to nearly every piece of evidence in

0:50

a case that his client already

0:52

played no contest too. He's

1:00

also trying to get the judge to believe this

1:02

Daniel Miller in his courtroom right now

1:04

is not the same Daniel Miller who

1:07

was convicted in that New York spot case

1:09

three years ago. Looking at a document

1:11

people of the State of New York and Daniel

1:13

miller name is spelled the

1:16

same way. Still

1:18

looking for anything like the data burst,

1:21

something that identified we're talking about.

1:25

Oh and by the way, according to her attorney,

1:28

all the cell phones confiscated

1:30

from that Jaguar Daniel Miller was driving

1:32

while she was scamming. Bank after bank

1:35

after bank are not hers.

1:40

Eventually, the prosecutor has

1:42

just about as much as he can take and

1:44

pushes back hard. The

1:46

state is actually going to continued,

1:51

so daniel Miller has to spend

1:53

the weekend in Sara Sota, Florida, so

1:56

she can attend to part two of the sentencing

1:58

hearing early next week. But

2:00

then out of nowhere, Mother

2:02

Nature throws her a lifeline.

2:05

But it's gonna be a major hurricane approaching

2:07

our coast. The center is two hundred

2:09

thirty miles south of Sarasota. Hurricane

2:12

Ian seems to be helping daniel Miller

2:14

at this point. Yes, for sure.

2:26

I'm Jonathan Walton and this is Queen

2:28

of the con The Rich Girl,

2:32

Episode seven, Pack

2:35

your ship and move tonight.

2:48

Entire buildings swept away, families

2:51

trapped by floodwaters. Monstrous

2:53

Hurricane Ian now lashing the Florida

2:55

Peninsula. Hurricane

2:57

Ian mis landfall in Fort Myers,

2:59

Florida on September Sarah

3:03

Soda seventy six miles so the north

3:06

is spared at the very last minute,

3:08

as is Danielle Miller. Her

3:11

Sarah Sota sentencing hearing is postponed

3:14

indefinitely because everyone's

3:16

in hurricane mode battening down the hatches

3:19

and the courts are closed. So

3:22

Danielle boards a plane and flies

3:25

back to her Manhattan apartment and

3:27

resumes her life. But

3:29

I'm discovering her living situation

3:32

in the Big Apple that she portrays

3:34

on social media as glamorous

3:36

and exciting is actually

3:39

anything. But the headline

3:42

is con artist Danielle

3:44

Miller, who flaunted lavish lifestyle

3:47

facing near reality and needs a roomy.

3:51

Zachary Houson is reading an article he

3:53

wrote. He's the real estate editor for the

3:55

New York Post. I had never heard

3:57

of daniel Miller, but he is a

4:00

hip millennial with an appreciation for

4:02

the unusual. I cover residential

4:05

real estate in New York City,

4:07

and I have a real

4:09

preference for quirky,

4:12

kind of not your typical real estate

4:15

stories, and

4:17

what goes down in February two

4:20

is not your typical real estate story.

4:23

First, a bizarre social media

4:25

post surfaces in a New York City

4:27

Facebook group where roommates offer up

4:29

places to live in the hopes of finding other roommates

4:32

to move in with them. But this post

4:34

is different because it mentions

4:36

the prospect of con artist

4:39

daniel Miller being one of the roommates

4:41

you'd share the apartment with. How

4:44

did this story come across your desk? It

4:46

came across thanks to a Facebook's

4:49

leuth who seems to belong

4:51

to one of many

4:53

Facebook housing groups that

4:55

seek to connect

4:58

local New Yorkers in knee of a

5:00

new place to live with actual

5:02

apartments that are looking for new

5:04

roommates, and around the time

5:07

that we received the screenshots of

5:09

the post, which detailed the

5:12

fact that Danielle Miller lives

5:14

there and also detailed what she's

5:16

accused of. That post was deleted

5:18

at the time that we received the screenshots.

5:21

Zachary publishes excerpts from that now

5:24

infamous roommate wanted to add in The New

5:26

York Post in his February fifteenth

5:28

article. It's a very very

5:30

New York City situation. According

5:33

to Zachary's peace, an actress named

5:35

Julia Cornell is one of

5:38

three roommates living in a Greenwich Village

5:40

apartment. She's moving

5:42

out and is looking for someone to replace

5:44

her as a roommate. The rent dollars

5:48

a month. She then

5:50

goes into oddly exquisite

5:52

detail about the other two roommates,

5:54

who, as it turns out, are Danielle

5:57

Miller and the guy named Brett Joseph.

6:00

Julia's Facebook post says quote,

6:03

both roommates live in the basement but have full

6:05

access to the living room in kitchen area.

6:07

Brett works as a promoter and sleeps

6:09

until five pm, what tends to have guests

6:12

over until three to four am. Daniel

6:14

is currently on house arrest for identity

6:17

theft and financial fraud. She

6:19

keeps to herself downstairs. Usually

6:22

when I poke around these sites, these

6:24

hassing ads tend to say there

6:27

are two roommates, the roommates aren't named. Where

6:29

there's one roommate, there's a roommate

6:31

who works nights, or we're people who

6:33

have cats and we're looking for a new roommate

6:35

who also has a cat. This got into

6:38

some unexpected detail. How

6:41

crazy is that, though, Like they're looking

6:43

for a roommate and they're just gonna put all

6:45

the dirty laundry in the ad. Oh yeah, you're

6:47

gonna share it with Daniel Miller, who's under house

6:49

arrest awaiting trial. Yeah,

6:52

you know, I wanted to talk to the

6:54

person who posted that at about

6:56

it and thank them. Yeah,

6:59

but she would not talk to me for this story,

7:01

and I would want to ask, you

7:03

know, why why did you get into that detail?

7:06

Like it's surprising? And that's another

7:08

element of this story as to why

7:11

a seemingly routine Facebook

7:13

hasting ad would get into the detail

7:15

in just one sentence that and in that one

7:18

sentence a lot was said, why

7:20

you would put that online? I

7:22

think it speaks to our current

7:24

culture of oversharing,

7:28

right, talk about an overshare they're

7:31

putting in the ad. Oh yeah, one

7:33

roommates a music promoter. The other is

7:35

a woman accused of multiple felonies

7:38

under house arrest. If you don't mind the uncle

7:40

bracelet. The questions still remain, is it honest

7:42

advertising? Was it revenge?

7:45

To a degree? I think whoever

7:48

posted showed

7:50

some kind of anger or frustration with

7:52

the life she's living, grooming with a convict

7:54

because she's been convicted of other crimes. This

7:56

is a human interest story that

7:59

has to do with New York City

8:01

housing, and it gives

8:03

an impression that there is this great

8:06

democratizing force in

8:09

New York City rental housing that

8:12

you can come from any walk of life, you can

8:15

do anything, you could be accused of

8:17

identity theft and wire fraud, and you

8:19

will still live in an apartment

8:22

that needs a roommate. So that

8:24

to me kind of hit all the boxes

8:26

that made me think, yeah, this is an instant

8:29

story for us. In a city of

8:31

many, many millions of people, you

8:33

could really live with anyone. And Danielle

8:36

Miller was described in this and perhaps

8:39

that's a reason why it seems

8:41

that the ad was very quickly

8:43

deleted. But there are people who take

8:46

just as fast screenshots. So

8:49

yeah, you really can't tell you anything in this day and age,

8:51

right, No, the internet is forever. I

8:55

reached out to Danielle for this story.

8:58

I didn't hear back in

9:00

the club, Zachary, Danielle

9:02

doesn't want to talk to The New York Post, and we

9:04

already know she doesn't want to talk to me,

9:07

but she is talking. Earlier

9:10

this year, an interviewer asked her, quote,

9:13

I saw you guys were looking for a roommate, and

9:15

Danielle responded, quote, no,

9:17

we're not looking for a roommate. So

9:20

who posted that on Facebook? I

9:26

saw you guys were looking for a roommate. No, we're

9:28

not looking for a roommate. So who posted

9:30

that on Facebook, this little nineteen

9:32

year old girl who rented the room from us

9:34

for one month that decided to tell us she

9:36

wanted to move out. I don't even want to say

9:39

her name, because she's like, she's like from Pensacola,

9:41

Florida, and like just came to New York

9:44

to be an actress and like, gosh that she

9:46

could make Like she was like, oh, like

9:48

this New York magazine article just came out,

9:50

like I'm gonna get my name in this, Like I'm gonna put

9:52

this on Facebook then sell it to the Post or

9:54

whatever, give it to the Post. But

9:56

if that were true and the actress slash

9:58

roommate who made the post is just looking for

10:01

publicity, as Danielle says, why

10:03

didn't she want to talk to Zachary Houston at the New

10:05

York Post. They've got millions

10:08

of readers, And why doesn't she want to

10:10

talk to me on Queen of the con We've

10:12

got millions of downloads

10:14

between the two of us. Zachary and I could

10:16

have given her tons of publicity.

10:19

Anyway, daniel continues

10:21

her explanation, or rather spins

10:24

planation. Now, I literally won't

10:26

have anybody in my apartment like there's no one

10:28

allowed to be in my apartment, like nobody, because

10:30

I trust no one, and I was nothing but nice

10:32

to this girl. I also did a really good job of keeping

10:34

my friend's name out of any articles that were written about

10:36

me prior. Like this person that I'm living with,

10:38

like, his name is not mentioned anywhere, and he's been my best

10:41

friend for a long time. Then his name is put

10:43

in this New York Post article and in the real estate section,

10:45

like what are you doing the name

10:47

of that current roommate who Danielle says

10:50

is quote her best friend who got mentioned

10:52

in that New York Post article is club

10:54

promoter Brett Joseph. He doesn't

10:57

want to talk to me either, but as luck would

10:59

have it, it's a small world

11:01

after all. So there's

11:03

this kid named Brett who knows

11:06

me and we had probably met at

11:08

some point. Remember Mackenzie

11:10

Day, daniel Miller's former business

11:12

partner and victim, who she tells everyone

11:15

is her boyfriend. Turns

11:17

out, Danielle's current roommate, Brett,

11:20

knows McKenzie and actually brad

11:22

to him about being her roommate

11:26

recently during the Bitcoin conference. It

11:28

was one and it was in Miami, and

11:30

we had ran into each other at a house party

11:33

at South Point, you know, and so he's

11:35

like Mackenzie and yells

11:37

across we're going into this house. And

11:39

I was like, oh shit. I

11:41

was like, who knows me here? No one should, like, you

11:43

know. And all of a sudden he's like, oh my god. He's like college

11:46

you whenn't see you this in that New York gotaday.

11:48

He's like, when you're coming back? And I was like, I left,

11:50

like I live in Niagara Falls. Now I had, you know, a different

11:52

change. And so he's like, you're never gonna guess.

11:54

He's like, let me tell you when we get upstairs. We get upstairs

11:57

and this guy's like yeah. So he's

11:59

like, you're never gonna guess. He's like, I have full

12:01

of your ex girlfriends living in my house. I'm

12:03

like, excuse me. I was like both

12:05

my ex girlfriends. I was like, I'm

12:08

like thinking back through my history and my

12:10

short history of New York and I'm like there's

12:12

no possible way. I was like, are

12:14

you talking about so and so? And he's like yeah,

12:16

yeah, but also Danny.

12:19

And I was like what

12:22

And I was like, I was like, you live with Danny

12:24

are you insane? And he's like, I was like, oh,

12:26

ship you. I was like, you're

12:28

the place that she's staying and I was like, are

12:31

you insane? I was like, you've been exposing

12:33

our friends to this woman, and so like now

12:35

it really put it all together like this. It's

12:37

like a crash pad for like starving

12:40

artists and and like you know, anyone

12:42

who wants to go there at for a after

12:44

parties and ship like that. So it's a lot of people.

12:46

And so that's how you know the girl that I was dating

12:48

I am not now because she was part of that scene

12:50

and just couldn't get it together. Is that Julia

12:53

Cornell? Because she's mentioned in an article No

12:55

nos no, no, no neither. And this girl

12:58

that she was totally outside of all that, she only

13:00

been staying there a couple of she was she rented

13:02

it from for like two months recently.

13:05

And then I was like fuck

13:07

off. And then I got I left that area

13:10

and I called her immediately. I was like, whatever

13:12

you're doing wherever you are, get out of that house, immediately

13:15

pack your ship and moved. And she's like, what

13:17

you're scaring me why? I was like, you're by Daniel

13:20

Miller and she's like what. I was like, Danny,

13:22

Like Danny, Danny. She's like, oh,

13:24

that's the girl who had called me, Oh you'r Beyonce And

13:26

I was like no. And

13:29

so this is I was like, did she ever go into

13:32

stuff? Did she ever touched your phone? Because this girl, you

13:34

know, she's like doesn't have her stuff together as much

13:36

as I wish she would because she's once

13:38

again beautifle talented, but like she

13:41

I was like, I just know that she has a couple of late nights

13:43

and passes out unless people just go

13:45

through anything of any of her ship. And so

13:48

that was the person who was like, oh man,

13:50

And I was like, do you need to like change

13:52

everything like she's she's like, no, no, nothing happened.

13:54

I was like, if you were in the house, something happened, Like you're

13:56

like you're a victim. I was like, you're

13:59

I'm sorry about your just not that up on your

14:01

ship and it would be super easy for anyone

14:03

to go through any of your stuff, like you need to get this done.

14:06

And so that was one of the roommates at the

14:08

time. So it's who was you know, so

14:10

what you don't you don't remember meeting

14:12

britosef. But he knew you. I

14:14

mean, you know, big city kind of

14:16

stuff. But I mean he was he's

14:18

quite and I mean this in the best

14:20

way, but he's unmemorable, right, He's like,

14:22

you know, there's nothing that like, he's a guy, he's

14:25

cool. I'm going to

14:28

listen. I mean this in the best way. You're

14:30

just unmemorable. Yeah, like there's nothing,

14:32

you know, totally average dude. I'm sure

14:34

he's you know, I don't whatever.

14:37

I wish probably should biggest friends better, but whatever

14:39

he's doing, Like, it was just nothing that really

14:41

stuck in my brain and being like you're this

14:43

guy, you know, and then a lot of that stuff

14:45

that had to do with Danielle, like I was

14:48

just like like just

14:50

pull it right out, turned off. Yeah exactly.

14:53

Now Danny has an influx of all these like

14:55

what I would call victims, like all these people

14:57

coming over that are trash, and she's like her

14:59

parlor trick. You know. It's like now she's

15:01

getting his notoriety for being like and

15:03

it's like people are so like so they're

15:05

like oh my god, like you know, it's like so l

15:08

a, so New York, like you know, just being

15:10

like oh, you're in the you know, no one's really thinking

15:12

like, oh there, she's probably stealing your data.

15:14

And then Brett is living through like variously

15:16

through the notoriety of like oh yeah, I got

15:18

Danny Miller in here, pro connartists, and

15:21

you know, it's like these people are just

15:23

want to be a part of it, you know, and

15:25

it's like you look at me or you look at l A and it's

15:27

just like this like upcoming model society of like

15:29

all these broke artists and ships. So you know, it's

15:31

like whatever it is, but it's

15:34

still like some like once again a parlor trick.

15:36

You know. For the most part, Mackenzie

15:40

Day is actually spot on about

15:42

the parlor trick. During my investigation,

15:44

I dig up a former roommate of Daniells

15:47

when she lived in Los Angeles. At

15:49

first, she doesn't want to talk to me, but

15:52

in my mind, since this woman was

15:54

her roommate, I just know Danielle

15:56

had to have scammed her at some point, so

15:59

I keep ali and finally

16:01

she agrees to share her harrowing experience.

16:06

Danielle and I were roommates, and she's

16:08

hurt hundreds of people. I'm

16:10

sorry to those people that we

16:13

all fell for it. Taylor

16:16

Fercus lived with daniel Miller in

16:18

Los Angeles back in three

16:20

years before Danielle ever met Mackenzie

16:23

Day. She's thirty one years old with

16:25

long blonde hair and kind hazel

16:28

blue eyes. Taylor had a bunch

16:30

of media outlets reach out to her about

16:32

daniel Miller, and she refused

16:34

to talk to them. I don't want to support

16:38

that kind of a story. She did so much wrong

16:40

and she has screwed so many people over Like, what about the

16:42

people that are hurting from all of this. Taylor

16:46

is a successful career woman now, but boy

16:48

did Danielle Miller do a number on her

16:51

eight years ago through a series

16:53

of unconscionably cruel and

16:55

calculated cons And Taylor's

16:58

never talked about what happened to her publicly

17:01

until now. Everyone who reached

17:03

out to you, you're talking to me. I'm honored,

17:06

thanksly, you made it. I guess comforting

17:08

when you said that you've dealt with someone.

17:10

I kind of felt like a little bit of a comfort with it because

17:12

it is super embarrassing and I don't like talking

17:15

about it. As the victim

17:17

of a con artist, I instantly identify

17:19

with other victims, and they seem to instantly

17:22

identify with me. There's just something

17:24

about falling for an elaborate scam

17:26

perpetrated by someone you care about,

17:29

someone you swear you know really

17:31

well, that just stays with you forever

17:34

and it leaves a permanent scar. The

17:36

elaborate scam Danielle Miller

17:39

pulls on Taylor Fircus is one

17:41

I've never even heard of, and

17:43

I would have sworn I've heard them all at

17:45

this point. How

17:47

did you meet daniel Miller? So?

17:49

I met Danielle maybe a couple of

17:51

months after I moved to l A

17:54

at a local rock bar that

17:56

my friends and I would hang out at. Their

17:58

friends played music every Sunday, and

18:00

one of the band DJs

18:03

that they recruited was her

18:05

boyfriend at the time, and so we just

18:07

became friends with each other.

18:10

It started off just seeing each other weekly on Sunday nights,

18:13

and then it just kind of progressed,

18:15

I guess, into a friendship if you will. Hate

18:18

referring to it as that. After everything

18:20

that I'm from a super small town in the Midwest,

18:23

So my first impression was of her being

18:26

a New Yorker, was that she was kind of like

18:28

She just kind of seems like this big party girl that

18:31

knew a lot of people, had a lot of connections, and

18:34

she knew how to have a good time.

18:37

I thought she was very friendly, she was outgoing.

18:40

She definitely knew how to make

18:43

friends. She would make it known

18:45

that like she had money

18:47

and she was a trust fund baby because

18:50

of her parents background of her

18:52

dad being a big lawyer in New York and her mom

18:54

was like an original rockhead. And

18:56

she would kind of refer to herself as like

18:58

there was one time, a little bit late or in our friendship

19:00

where she would say that the

19:04

story of Gossip Girl was

19:06

kind of based on the school that she went to, which

19:08

I beloka was horst Man was the name of it. To

19:11

be quite honest with you, I feel like I've kind of like

19:13

mentally blocked out a lot of my time

19:15

with her. How do you go from being

19:17

casual friends to becoming

19:20

roommates with Daniel Miller? How

19:26

do you go from being casual friends

19:30

to becoming roommates with Daniel Miller?

19:32

So at the time, I was living in

19:35

NoHo and I was working in Hollywood.

19:38

I didn't have a car, and it was when you list in uber had

19:40

just started coming out, so I was using for public

19:42

transportation and Danielle

19:45

had brought up the idea to me because my lease was about

19:47

to be over in a couple of months with who

19:49

I was currently living with, and

19:52

then she had brought up to me. She was like, oh,

19:54

my lease is coming up to like, let's

19:56

move to Hollywood. You'll be closer to work, You'll

19:58

be able to walk to work. It's of using public transportation,

20:01

it'll be safer, like getting all of these great ideas

20:04

and it sounded fun and different, and

20:06

like I felt like it was kind of gonna get me out of my comfort

20:08

zone because I was hanging out with the

20:10

same people all the time. That's but that's a bad thing. But just

20:12

like you know, there's so many people that live in l A. Why

20:14

not like make more friends or meet more

20:16

people your social

20:18

circle network. Yeah,

20:22

she convinced me to do it, and she was

20:24

like, you were going to live in a nice apartment building

20:26

right on Hollywood and Highland, who were living at

20:28

the Jefferson right across from the w super

20:32

expensive to oh it was.

20:34

I was like, I don't know if I can afford that, Like I'm

20:37

sorry, and she was like, you can just pay

20:39

this much and I'll cover the rest. I think I was paying

20:41

her like a thousand dollars a month because at the time

20:43

I was serving in bar attending, so I was just paying everything

20:45

in cash to her. So

20:47

there's like no trail of me paying her rent,

20:49

you know whatever. So you'd give her your

20:52

portion of the rent every month in cash.

20:55

Yeah, the rent for that two bedroom

20:57

luxury apartment in Hollywood is close

20:59

to three thousand dollars a month. Back, Taylor

21:03

is under the impression Danielle is a quote

21:06

trust fund baby who's happy to

21:08

pay the lion's share of the rent. But

21:11

when they move in together, it's not long

21:13

before Taylor notices something really

21:16

odd that kind of like felt

21:18

like she was never really moving in. There was always

21:20

boxes everywhere, she was never really unpacking

21:22

any of her stuff, and I would sometimes

21:25

I'd be like, so, are we gonna get

21:27

a couch? Are we gonna get a TV? That just kind of felt

21:29

like her stuff was just literally

21:31

everywhere, and like I was fully moved in, but

21:34

it never fully turned into an apartment.

21:37

At this point, Taylor has no

21:39

idea what she's witnessing

21:42

is an elaborate con in progress,

21:45

and it would take her months before she finally

21:47

figures out what Danielle is actually

21:49

up to. Eventually, though, the

21:52

clues start piling up. Literally,

21:57

I was noticing we were getting letters of

22:00

not paying rent. I would confront

22:02

her about it, and I'd be like, hey, we just gotta let

22:04

her that we all like two months of rent,

22:06

Like what's going on because I've been paying you, You're

22:09

supposed to be paying this. And she

22:11

was just like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna takere of it. I'm so sorry, like I've been

22:13

super busy with work, blah blah blah, because she was working

22:15

at the time in the Beverly Hills

22:18

Chamber of Commerce. But as

22:20

the months passed, the eviction notices

22:22

keep coming. Here in Los

22:24

Angeles, it can take a really long time

22:26

for a landlord to actually evict a

22:29

tenant for not paying rent, sometimes

22:31

an entire year. And while all

22:34

this is going on, Taylor is continuing

22:36

to give Danielle a thousand dollars

22:38

in cash every month to pay her

22:41

part of the rent, and Danielle

22:43

continues to explain away

22:45

all the eviction notices that keep appearing,

22:48

telling Taylor don't worry, She's

22:50

handling it, and

22:54

finally one day she's not home. I

22:56

come home and there's like the big

22:59

you know, eviction notice, be out

23:02

in whatever it is three days or

23:04

we're taking your stuff and locking the doors. And

23:08

at this time, Danielle's like on her

23:10

birthday trip in like Thailand

23:12

or Bali, I don't even know, Divide somewhere

23:15

overseas with her boyfriend. So

23:17

I'm texting her, messaging her on Facebook like

23:19

hey, we're getting evicted, Like what's going on?

23:22

I've been paying you all of this rent? Like what

23:24

are you doing? And she just kind of turns

23:26

the story into like it's my birthday. Why are

23:28

you making me feel like such a bad friend on my

23:30

birthday? Like whatever,

23:33

narcissistic if you will not narcissist.

23:36

I was thinking that that is tell. It's

23:38

like they turn it on you, like now

23:40

you're attacking me. Meanwhile, you're getting

23:42

evicted because she didn't pay rent right

23:45

like we have. So I mean, do you get to notice like

23:47

that from the Sheriff's department. You probably haven't paid rent

23:49

in what like six months at least. So

23:52

I'm like in my head, I'm like, I

23:55

just paid for this girl's vacation for

23:57

her birthday, probably like she's just been taking

23:59

all this for me? Did a sheriff

24:01

ever show up to kick you out? Like? How did

24:03

that end? How did you get out of there? So

24:05

when that happened, I came home,

24:08

I saw that letter and like freaked out,

24:10

called some of my best girlfriends, and

24:13

thankfully I had a family that lived down the

24:16

street in San Diego, and I

24:18

told them the story. They had met Danielle a couple

24:20

of times and they

24:22

were like, yeah, you can come and move in with us, like moved

24:24

down here and we'll help in any way that you can. So

24:27

in three days, I packed up all my stuff, thankful

24:30

for my girlfriends that helped me, and I

24:32

got out. I left the door unlocked

24:35

with all of danielle stuff in it, and

24:38

she finally came back from her trip, her

24:40

birthday trip, and then accused

24:43

me of stealing like all of

24:45

her expensive name brand clothes,

24:48

shoes, all of it. And she's like, I'm gonna sue you for

24:50

stealing all this from me. And I'm like, since

24:52

I moved out, I left

24:55

my stuff. We were getting evicted. I left the door unlocked

24:57

if somebody wanted to walk in and take your stuff and that's who

24:59

did it. Like I'm teaching your things. I want nothing

25:01

to do with your stuff, Like you've screwed me over

25:03

so much, Like please don't talk to me or threaten

25:05

me anymore. I guarantee you

25:07

that whole trick to make you move in

25:09

together, that was just to shake you down for money

25:12

every month. She was never going to pay rent. Yeah,

25:15

and I get like I look back on it and I think,

25:18

like, why me, you know,

25:20

And then I'm like, oh, because I'm the nice

25:22

girl from the Midwest who

25:25

loves everybody, and it's so friendly to everybody,

25:27

Like, yeah, you can take advantage of me because I'm not going to stick

25:29

up for myself or put my foot down or whatever,

25:32

because I want to help everybody.

25:34

And I think it speaks to a level

25:36

of inhumanity

25:38

that someone like you, who

25:40

just moved to l A, who doesn't know anyone, she's

25:43

gonna scam you. You don't even have a lot of money. But

25:45

I'm telling you that apartment thing, that

25:47

was a scheme. And even you said

25:49

it yourself, it didn't look like she was moving in

25:53

right, that was just set up to scam

25:55

you. Until you told me this

25:57

scheme, I'd never heard of it. Trick

25:59

so one into getting an apartment, Tell them

26:01

they don't have to pay the whole half rent, just

26:03

pay what they can, and you can

26:06

go by so many months before they actually

26:08

evict you because she got an eviction notice

26:10

and she goes on vacation, Like,

26:13

in what world does that make any sense?

26:15

How crazy would it be if you find out she's

26:17

doing that to ten different young women

26:19

like yourself, Like she's got ten apartments, sharing

26:22

with all of them, and they're giving her a thousand dollars

26:24

a month and she's not really paying the rent and she's

26:26

just waiting to get evicted. Because when

26:28

you call to tell her, hey, we're getting evicted, did

26:30

she seem concerned at

26:34

this time when the eviction notices start

26:36

showing up. Daniel Miller is working

26:38

at the Beverly Hills Chamber of Commerce

26:41

in their Events and Marketing department, and

26:43

if you recall what her former business

26:45

partner, Mackenzie Day says in episode

26:48

three, basically anywhere she's worked, she's

26:50

stolen people's information. Well,

26:53

right before Taylor moves all her stuff

26:55

out of that luxury Hollywood apartment they're

26:57

both getting evicted from, she makes

27:00

up startling discovery that appears

27:02

to confirm what Mackenzie says.

27:05

When I was packing up all of my stuff

27:08

because we were evicted, I did go through her room because

27:10

you know, girls like share each other's clothes and shoes

27:12

and whatever. So I did go into her room,

27:15

and I did see I found a

27:17

huge sheet of paper of people

27:20

that she worked with, with all of their bank account

27:22

information and all of the name and

27:25

I but like, I didn't know

27:28

what to do with it. Keep

27:30

in mind at this point, Taylor is

27:32

a small town girl from Wisconsin

27:35

getting evicted by the Los Angeles Sheriff's

27:37

Office, even though she's been paying rent

27:39

in cash to Danielle the entire

27:42

time. She was in

27:44

a state of shock and in a hurry

27:46

to pack up all her stuff and leave. She

27:49

didn't have the presence of mind to report

27:51

daniel Miller to police, and

27:54

the thought that her friend, her roommate,

27:56

could be a sophisticated con

27:58

artist just never occurred

28:00

to her. Whatever I

28:03

was young, I was dumb, naive,

28:05

whatever it learned from mistakes. You have

28:07

to understand you did not make a mistake.

28:10

You were just being a kind person. And

28:13

she's an evil con artist who used

28:15

you and scanned you. It wasn't a mistake

28:17

you made. I feel like I've kind of just accepted

28:19

it. I'm glad we're speaking, because I

28:22

think you need someone to look you in the eye

28:24

and tell you this was not your

28:26

fault. You didn't do anything wrong. You're

28:29

not dumb or naive or young. She's

28:31

a con artist and you were in her path. That's

28:34

it, I guess. So yeah,

28:38

Taylor's eyes well up as I'm

28:40

talking to her, because for the past eight

28:42

years she's blamed herself

28:44

for what happened, and it really wasn't

28:46

her fault at all. She did nothing

28:49

wrong. At some point, you gotta blame

28:51

the perpetrator. Mm hmm. And

28:54

this rent scam is not the only

28:56

con Danielle pulls on Taylor. Early

29:00

on, Danielle figures out a clever way

29:02

a trick Taylor into using a

29:04

stolen credit card, and by

29:06

now we all know stolen

29:08

credit cards are Danielle's

29:11

jam. When we first moved

29:13

in, she was like, my mom

29:15

is so excited for us, like as a little like

29:17

gift to us for you

29:19

know, getting this place and celebrating. My

29:22

mom is going to pay for our uber's And

29:24

she was like here, what's your Uber account,

29:27

Let's put this card number on it, or

29:29

this is my mom's card, let's put it on fust

29:32

forward whatever. You know, the

29:34

card ends up being like declined. All

29:36

these charges are going on and

29:39

to this day, I am banned from Uber and I can

29:41

no longer use it. So she

29:43

was using a stolen credit card on

29:46

your Uber account and then used

29:48

you to book rides for her. Yeah,

29:51

because it's her mother's credit card, she says,

29:54

yeah, how much money was

29:56

charged to Uber? Thousands of dollars

29:59

and you know, of course theres like you can pay it, and I'm

30:01

just like I'm not paying now, like I didn't take those rides,

30:03

like they're not me. You're a lucky

30:06

police didn't show up at your

30:08

door. I know, I don't know how

30:10

I can tell you how. It's because you live in l A

30:13

at the time, and they have so many

30:15

credit card fraud cases. You

30:17

just fell through the cracks. But

30:20

police could have shown up at your door and said, we have

30:23

evidence you're using a stolen credit card. You're under

30:25

arrest, right, And

30:28

the final con Daniel Miller pulls

30:30

on Taylor causes her years

30:33

of anguish and buckets of tears,

30:37

Danielle figures out a duplicit this way

30:40

to get Taylor to take the fall

30:42

for a scam she pulls and

30:45

Taylor is suddenly named as

30:47

a co defendant in court proceedings.

30:50

And I'll never forget like I had. She

30:53

did it in the middle of the night. She came up and woke

30:55

me up in the middle of my sleep before I

30:57

had to go to work, and she was like, here's here's the

30:59

check, like signing here. I got to take care of this next

31:07

time on Queen of the con So when I first

31:10

got over the papers, I reached out to her and I was

31:12

like, hey, Janielle, like I'm just

31:14

getting this, like what's going on, And you know, she turns it into

31:16

life. I'm sorry, like my dad will take care of it. Danielle

31:19

Miller is finally forced to face

31:21

the music. This person is more

31:23

dangerous with a cell phone than anybody

31:26

I know with the fararm, and she's ready

31:28

to sing. I just

31:30

have a couple of clarifications before I sue.

31:33

My statement is Portions

31:40

of public statements made to the media by

31:43

Danielle Miller were dramatized verbatim

31:45

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